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Speaker ASo this is the get you some productions podcast episode.
Speaker AWho knows, 100 and something, actually, we're doing great.
Speaker AWe're over a hundred, so that's.
Speaker AWe're cleared.
Speaker AA hundred.
Speaker AAnd honestly, I don't even remember what we wanted to talk about in this show.
Speaker BWhat's that on your shirt?
Speaker AThis little thing?
Speaker AYeah, it's a little like a sheep being hoisted.
Speaker AAh, Brooks Brothers.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker BLadies and gentlemen, you have to forgive me, I have add.
Speaker BSo I saw a little thing on the shirt and like, that's what we're going to talk about now.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo, speaking of.
Speaker ASo this is the get you some productions podcast.
Speaker AThis is a podcast covering all things from related to music production, from the first note to the last fan and everything in between.
Speaker AMy name's Keith.
Speaker BMy name's Daniel.
Speaker AAnd today we're going to talk about.
Speaker ASo this is the thing.
Speaker AI don't even remember what we wanted to talk about.
Speaker BThe single coming out, the handshake single.
Speaker AFuck yes, that's right.
Speaker ASo the single for the song Hope is coming out.
Speaker AI should.
Speaker AI showed you the artwork, right?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BNo, maybe it's.
Speaker AWait a minute, I could show you quickly.
Speaker ASo basically, I hope backing track mix.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ASo the handshake cover ideas.
Speaker ASo I'll share my screen real quick.
Speaker AYou see this?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ALet'S see.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BNo, I haven't seen these.
Speaker AOkay, so this is it.
Speaker AThis is the COVID.
Speaker BWell, good, because I like that one the most.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AThe only thing is that we cut it off basically to make it square.
Speaker ACut it right here.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut he.
Speaker ASo we did that.
Speaker AThat's going to be the album cover.
Speaker AThe album cover itself is going to be sort of like this piece of art with a little white border, like a fancy.
Speaker ALike a matted piece of art.
Speaker AAnd that's it.
Speaker ANo writing on the COVID Just the piece of art.
Speaker AThe name of the album, I think is going to be called Sanctum.
Speaker ABut for the album, for the singles, Thomas has designed a bunch of these, like, very gregarious looking, like, ugly stickers that you would find in, like a discount record bin.
Speaker AAnd he's slapped these, like, ugly stickers that are just too big just all over these albums.
Speaker AAnd we're just gonna.
Speaker AThose.
Speaker AEach single is just gonna be represented by like this album cover.
Speaker AYeah, Big ugly sticker slapped on it, like single 99 cents or something.
Speaker BYou know, I love it.
Speaker ASo that's that.
Speaker ASo I'm gonna stop sharing.
Speaker ASo we were going to come up with some ideas to Promote hope, right?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI just had a brilliant idea.
Speaker BWhat Podcast.
Speaker BIt's just me and you eating with the music playing on the background.
Speaker BJust like our like mouth sounds like asmr like triggering misophonia in people but like the songs playing in the background.
Speaker ACan you hear me chewing?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AI'll stop.
Speaker BIt really doesn't bother me but ideas.
Speaker AFor promoting okay, so here's my first idea.
Speaker ALet's ask ChatGPT what Chat GP think GPT thinks are good ideas for promoting a single.
Speaker ADoes that sound like a good place to start?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ADo you have any ideas?
Speaker BNo, I don't.
Speaker AThat's actually a good idea.
Speaker AHello, Mr. Chatgpt or Mrs. Chatgpt can you please tell us can you Please give us 10 grassroots DIY ways to promote a musical single in today's modern age?
Speaker BToday's modern age?
Speaker ACan you please tell us promote a single in the year 1800?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHow dumb.
Speaker AHow dumb, how dumb.
Speaker ANow can you please tell me ways to promote a single recording in the year 1300?
Speaker AWhat about in the year 2500?
Speaker AOkay, let's go through some ideas.
Speaker AGrassroots DI Ways DIY Ways to Promote a musical single effectively in today's modern age without the needing a major label backing.
Speaker ASo it filled that in short form video content well, I don't have a TikTok account or YouTube shorts, Instagram Reels featuring the hook of your song with captions on screen personal storytelling about the song's meaning fun performance clips or looping parts.
Speaker AThat's number one.
Speaker ASo this is just the shorts video shorts 2 DM and share with micro creators personally message small creators 100 to 10,000 followers who align with your style and ask if they'd use their song in their content.
Speaker AI think we could do that.
Speaker AWe could look at the lyrics of the song and see if anybody.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker AKnow what the the chorus of the song is climbing the is tonight we're climbing the walls or whatever it is.
Speaker AWhat if we called all the rock climbing places we can we've heard ever heard of and told them that they need to play our song in their rock climbing space because it's appropriate.
Speaker BI think you should talk to your sister.
Speaker BShe's the big rock climber.
Speaker AShe's the big rock climber.
Speaker AOffer them a free download merch or shout out in exchange.
Speaker AA shout out I can do.
Speaker ABut we don't have we have a.
Speaker BShirt.
Speaker ALyric and story posts.
Speaker APost the lyrics in an aesthetic typography on your stories and feed.
Speaker AI did think about that for all the Songs actually cut all the songs up into lyrics and just post the lyrics, a thumbnail of the album cover and just a link to, you know, the YouTube version of the song so that anybody can stream it anywhere.
Speaker AIt doesn't, you know, I don't know.
Speaker AAnyway, so we could do that, Share the story behind the lyrics.
Speaker AI've already sort of done that.
Speaker AI did.
Speaker AI did a podcast with this songwriting consultant and she talked about the song.
Speaker AI haven't released it yet, so maybe I'll get to releasing that.
Speaker AAnd it has all this stuff about the song and I can cut it up.
Speaker AMaybe cut up some of her stuff into short videos about what she thinks about the song and then just post links to the song with the little video shorts.
Speaker AI don't know how to do video shorts.
Speaker BYou know, I bet Elizabeth does.
Speaker BShe probably does talk to a teeny.
Speaker AI'm gonna have to hire Elizabeth to friggin do it.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker ASo email your list.
Speaker ASo this is the thing is we don't really have a legitimate list.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ABut I think we actually do have a handshake list.
Speaker AIt might have like 30, 40 people on it.
Speaker BBut I'm thinking ChatGPT is assuming we're like an active like band that's like gigging and has lists and email lists and merch lists and all that stuff.
Speaker BWell, maybe not.
Speaker AI was thinking that we have a lot of friends.
Speaker AMaybe I would just text everybody I know, like my entire contact list.
Speaker BYeah, you know, yeah, yeah, that, you know, literally just trying to get it out there.
Speaker AHey, this is.
Speaker AHey, guess what?
Speaker AI have a new single out.
Speaker ABeen a while.
Speaker ACheck it out.
Speaker AIf you're into rock and roll.
Speaker BYeah, that's probably.
Speaker BThat's obvious.
Speaker BAnd probably the simplest thing to do.
Speaker ASo they say fan challenges.
Speaker AStart with the challenge with a clear, simple action.
Speaker AFilm yourself walking to the song.
Speaker ASing this line and tag me.
Speaker AWrite your own verse to my beat.
Speaker AGorilla QR codes.
Speaker APrint flyers with a QR code to your song and put them at Gorilla.
Speaker AQR codes.
Speaker APrint flyers with a QR code to your song and put them in cafes, music stores, guitar shops, gyms, record stores.
Speaker AI'm not sure if I love that.
Speaker APerform live and promote the single.
Speaker APitch to indie blogs and playlists.
Speaker AOkay, so this is kind of where I was thinking more.
Speaker ASo, yeah.
Speaker AResearch small music blogs, playlist curators and local press.
Speaker APersonalize each pitch with why your song.
Speaker AFits them, a one liner about what the song is about and direct streaming link plus your socials.
Speaker AOkay, so that could be a Good model for that.
Speaker ALike, just get an email ready.
Speaker ATry to find as many, you know, emails to as many indie music blogs and playlisters that we can get.
Speaker AI'm not sure how to find those things and just send them basically, like a mini press kit.
Speaker ANumber nine.
Speaker AWe're almost at the end.
Speaker ANine is collaborate with other musicians, do live or filmed acoustic versions, remixes, and covers together.
Speaker APost each to each other's audiences to expand reach.
Speaker AI guess we could.
Speaker AI could make a list of all the other artists we know and just see if.
Speaker AHey, share my.
Speaker AThis is my new single.
Speaker AYou mind sharing it?
Speaker AAnd then finally, the last one is Meme It.
Speaker ACreate memes using lyrics, titles, or vibes of your song to tap into shareable humor.
Speaker AI think there's a. I think that I don't know how to do memes very well, but I think maybe I should think about.
Speaker ABecause there's.
Speaker AI do love the idea of doing kind of humorous things.
Speaker ALike if there's a video of somebody climbing a wall or, you know, like maybe an animal frantically climbing a wall.
Speaker ALike a funny cat videos, basically.
Speaker BOh, you know, I love cat videos.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo like, something like that.
Speaker ALike a funny cat video, a cat frantically climbing a wall, you know, or whatever the other lyrics are.
Speaker AI mean, I could pull up the lyrics and we could.
Speaker AWe could look at them and just see if we can brainstorm some ideas off that.
Speaker AWe have 10 minutes.
Speaker AYeah, you want to do that?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BPull up these lyrics.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AI have a lyric sheet because when I was working with the songwriting consultant lady, she said, send me the stuff ahead of time.
Speaker AThere we go.
Speaker ACan you see that?
Speaker BI can see that.
Speaker AWhat happens when I.
Speaker AWhen I make it bigger or smaller?
Speaker ADoes it take up the whole screen for you?
Speaker BNo, it's just easier to read.
Speaker BI still got the little tiles at the top, Both of us at the top, and then 90% of the screen.
Speaker BIs that okay?
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BWhere have you been tonight?
Speaker BWe're climbing the walls Tonight we're climbing the walls.
Speaker AOh, wait, the first line is, have you been here too long now?
Speaker AYou do not conform.
Speaker AWhat if it's just the pictures of weird people?
Speaker BJust like people in a waiting room.
Speaker ADo not conform.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker AThere's not a lot of lyrics to this song.
Speaker AI think you do not conform is.
Speaker AThere's some possibility there.
Speaker ATonight we're climbing the walls do you live in your head?
Speaker AAre you tied to that bed?
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BI'm thinking something real hot right there.
Speaker BYeah, Yeah.
Speaker AI mean, I think we could Find tons of people tied to their beds.
Speaker ASomebody.
Speaker AAs soon as you say tied to your bed, somebody pops up in your background.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker ASomebody say something.
Speaker BHey, tied up.
Speaker ALike.
Speaker ALike, like pops out of nowhere with handcuffs.
Speaker BHello.
Speaker BHello?
Speaker BI'm here now.
Speaker BAre you?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BDid somebody say tied up?
Speaker BAre you?
Speaker AHow about people?
Speaker ACan you walk through the door?
Speaker BI like that line.
Speaker BCan you walk through that door?
Speaker BAnd a silhouette of someone standing in a door.
Speaker AWhat about.
Speaker AWhat about just people walking into doors that are.
Speaker AThat they think are open but are actually not open?
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BCan you walk through that door?
Speaker BAnd it's just like bloopers of people walking.
Speaker BOr like walking through.
Speaker BNot seeing the glass door that's there.
Speaker BJust walking right into the glass.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AOr like a dog.
Speaker AYou know when the dog, like, goes smashing through the screen door just like, full yeet.
Speaker BLike, through the door, no hesitation.
Speaker BLike, it's also flies and duck pieces.
Speaker BYou mean dog is, like, loving every minute of it.
Speaker AYeah, that's.
Speaker BThese are all great canine energy, just, like, to the max.
Speaker BYeah, I like the door.
Speaker BI think doors actually are a great.
Speaker BA great symbol, a great object.
Speaker BUnderstood.
Speaker BUniversal.
Speaker BThey have meanings, they symbolism.
Speaker BI like that.
Speaker BOkay, I'm gonna put my vote there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd I did.
Speaker ASo the other.
Speaker AThe only other one is, do you live in your head?
Speaker AThere is like, there is a preponderance of memes where people are sort of have this look on their face like.
Speaker ALike this.
Speaker ALike, you know, I mean, we could make that.
Speaker AI could just do a video of me doing that with my eyes looking back and forth and just loop.
Speaker ADo you live in your head?
Speaker ADo you live in your head?
Speaker BOh, I like that too.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker ADo you live in your head?
Speaker BYou live in your head.
Speaker BI just want to say, if you walk through that door, you're either getting tied to a bed or climbing up a wall.
Speaker AListen, you're only getting out of here two ways.
Speaker BOnly it's only me.
Speaker ASo that bed or.
Speaker AOr climbing that wall.
Speaker AThose are your choices.
Speaker BYour choices.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker ASo we came up with some ideas on that.
Speaker BI do have to.
Speaker BI don't mean to cut it short, but I do have to split soon.
Speaker AThat's good.
Speaker ANo, no, I think we did.
Speaker ASo that was, like, probably the most important thing.
Speaker AYeah, we covered the most important thing.
Speaker BGood.
Speaker AThat was a real.
Speaker AThat was a good quickie.
Speaker BAwesome.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker AHow are you otherwise?
Speaker AHow's your.
Speaker BPretty good.
Speaker AYou know what?
Speaker AWe've chatted a few times.
Speaker AWe have talked not at all about music.
Speaker BI haven't been Doing much with music recently.
Speaker AI just haven't gotta get that bass out, man.
Speaker BI do, I do have to rip that bass out.
Speaker BI. Yeah, I've been thinking about that.
Speaker BI pulled out my strap.
Speaker BStrap.
Speaker BI tell it the other day, I'm like, oh my God, I gotta get new strings on here.
Speaker BSo, you know, nothing to get you fired up practicing again by putting a new set of strings on there, you know, so.
Speaker BSo yeah, I, I was, I just got back from shopping and I was, I, I obsessed with my car too much as you may know.
Speaker BAnd I don't know if you can see.
Speaker BYou probably can't see.
Speaker BYou can't see shit on there that does not coming up at all.
Speaker BI noticed a spot on my car.
Speaker BI'm like, what's that?
Speaker BAnd I go in there and there's touch up paint on my car.
Speaker BI'm like, what the hell?
Speaker BSomeone had like scraped my car in the front.
Speaker BThis is like the front fender by the front, front lights.
Speaker BIt scraped it and then like done a little white touch up paint on it.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker AThey went through all that.
Speaker BThis could only happen to.
Speaker BIt could have only happened where I work because I work at a car dealership, right?
Speaker BSo someone like scraped my car and was like, oh no, I'm gonna do this touch up paint.
Speaker BAnd it's so amateur.
Speaker BIt looks like your first attempt at using like white out, it's just somebody who.
Speaker BThen you go on there and then you go over it again and it starts getting lumpy because you didn't wait long enough.
Speaker BAnd it looks like that.
Speaker BBut it was just enough to get me out of the parking lot and home before I noticed it.
Speaker BBut it's like either hit someone's car and just leave or hit the car and leave a note.
Speaker BDon't do this.
Speaker BJust makes it so much worse.
Speaker BIt just makes it so much worse because now it's like going to be twice as much work to get it to look right.
Speaker BBecause it's been.
Speaker BSomeone's put like weird paint all over.
Speaker BWasn't even a good job.
Speaker BLike if you're gonna do it like.
Speaker AYou know, the problem is you're trying to get in and out of there fast.
Speaker AThat's why.
Speaker AI mean.
Speaker BAnd the thing is it's parked out in the parking lot.
Speaker BSo first of all, it's like 120 degrees out there.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BSo whoever did it was just like.
Speaker BAnd so I told my co workers, Christina, what I'm.
Speaker BIt's gonna be Impossible to prove who it is.
Speaker BThere was a little dark transfer on there.
Speaker BIt's clearly like a dark colored car.
Speaker BI'm just gonna go key every dark colored car on the parking lot and touch it up with Sharpie.
Speaker BJust be like, that's fine.
Speaker BThat's fine.
Speaker BYeah, my coworkers, like, go.
Speaker BGo see which cars have scuffs on them and you'll be able to.
Speaker BI'm like, this is a parking lot with 200 cars in the middle of the summer.
Speaker BI'm going to be like, there's.
Speaker BThere's a scuff on your car.
Speaker BIt was you.
Speaker BIt's like, what the hell is that going to do?
Speaker BThere's a scuff on a car.
Speaker BIt's not like dental records.
Speaker BIt's not like tooth marks on my car.
Speaker BYou're like, it could only have been your.
Speaker BIt's like, yeah, my car is scuffed.
Speaker BIt's a 2015 Ford Explorer with like 200,000 miles on it.
Speaker BLike, what?
Speaker BSo there's.
Speaker BThere's no hurt.
Speaker AYou're no way you're gonna find out.
Speaker ANot even point.
Speaker BBut I am going to tell Kirby.
Speaker BMy.
Speaker BThe general manager.
Speaker BNot necessarily.
Speaker BI mean, it'd be nice if he helps me pay for touch ups, but I just thought he should know what his employees are doing.
Speaker BLike, if you run a business, you would want someone to tell you that.
Speaker BI'm not coming to you saying now you have to fix my car because some.
Speaker BOne of your employees did this, but I just thought you'd like to know that this happened on our lot.
Speaker BSomeone did this.
Speaker AIt's also got to be an employee.
Speaker BBecause it's got to be an employee.
Speaker BIt's the only person.
Speaker BOnly.
Speaker BOnly a car person would even think to do this.
Speaker BFirst of all, only employees are driving this in the employee parking lot.
Speaker BIt's only employees, right?
Speaker BLike, could it happen somewhere else?
Speaker BI'm like, what?
Speaker BMy driveway?
Speaker BWhat if it is like, my driveway is the other place?
Speaker BThe car is my house.
Speaker BDrive four miles to work at work.
Speaker BBack and forth, back and forth.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker BCar doesn't go anywhere else with weird car people.
Speaker AHere's an insane idea.
Speaker AWhat if you did it?
Speaker AWhat if you touched it up and then now you're going to your boss to say somebody else touched it up?
Speaker AIs that like Agatha Christie?
Speaker BKirby, this car is damaged.
Speaker BAnd I don't want you to think that I actually did this myself.
Speaker BAnd now I'm trying to retroactively get you to cover it because I would never do something like that?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BFirst of all, I baby, this car.
Speaker BChristina's like, could it have come in that way?
Speaker BI'm like, christina, I hand wash this car at least once a week.
Speaker BLike, I know every scratch, nick and imperfection on this car.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BSo it's like.
Speaker BNo, there's just no way.
Speaker AIt's hilarious.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BAnyway, that's what's going on.
Speaker AWell, sorry that happened.
Speaker AAnyway, but the thing is, it is kind of a funny story because it's so.
Speaker AIt's so improbable.
Speaker BIt's so half assed.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI'm just disappointed in the quality of the work.
Speaker BLike, if it was like expertly done, I was like, wow.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAll right, all right.
Speaker BBecause that's all I was going to have someone do anyway was touching up the only thing.
Speaker ASo the thing is that the only reason it's touched up is because I think they probably hoped you wouldn't notice for a while.
Speaker BYou really can't.
Speaker BIt's really not coming out, is it?
Speaker BNo, you can't.
Speaker ANo, I will.
Speaker BI'll text it to you.
Speaker BIt's so funny.
Speaker BNo, they hope I wouldn't notice it.
Speaker BAnd by the time I notice it, it's like, oh, it's been.
Speaker BIt's like, guess what?
Speaker BI still backtrack him to the exact same spot.
Speaker BI park in the same spot.
Speaker BIt's all my car.
Speaker BBasically lives at the spot.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AI. I don't.
Speaker AI just don't like Unsolved Mysteries.
Speaker BShe's like a freaking private detective.
Speaker AYeah, she's like hermit too.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BNo, she's out for blood.
Speaker BLike at the slightest, like, indignation, like any, Any, any.
Speaker BAny sort of like.
Speaker BWhat's the word?
Speaker BLike, lack of justice, any injustice in the world.
Speaker BShe becomes a good Sarah and it's slightly terrifying.
Speaker BAnd I'm not the first person to say this to her, but I am one of many who says, remind me never to piss you off.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker BSo she's like.
Speaker BShe's like.
Speaker BShe'll do.
Speaker BShe'll do a chemical analysis on that touch up paint.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnyway, all right, you gotta go.
Speaker BI'm excited for this single release and.
Speaker BAnd we'll do it again.
Speaker AGood man.
Speaker AEnjoy your session.
Speaker AI'll see you later.
Speaker BBye.