Speaker A

You're short on time.

Speaker A

So this is the get you some productions podcast episode.

Speaker A

Who knows, 100 and something, actually, we're doing great.

Speaker A

We're over a hundred, so that's.

Speaker A

We're cleared.

Speaker A

A hundred.

Speaker A

And honestly, I don't even remember what we wanted to talk about in this show.

Speaker B

What's that on your shirt?

Speaker A

This little thing?

Speaker A

Yeah, it's a little like a sheep being hoisted.

Speaker A

Ah, Brooks Brothers.

Speaker B

Cool.

Speaker B

Ladies and gentlemen, you have to forgive me, I have add.

Speaker B

So I saw a little thing on the shirt and like, that's what we're going to talk about now.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So, speaking of.

Speaker A

So this is the get you some productions podcast.

Speaker A

This is a podcast covering all things from related to music production, from the first note to the last fan and everything in between.

Speaker A

My name's Keith.

Speaker B

My name's Daniel.

Speaker A

And today we're going to talk about.

Speaker A

So this is the thing.

Speaker A

I don't even remember what we wanted to talk about.

Speaker B

The single coming out, the handshake single.

Speaker A

Fuck yes, that's right.

Speaker A

So the single for the song Hope is coming out.

Speaker A

I should.

Speaker A

I showed you the artwork, right?

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

No, maybe it's.

Speaker A

Wait a minute, I could show you quickly.

Speaker A

So basically, I hope backing track mix.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

So the handshake cover ideas.

Speaker A

So I'll share my screen real quick.

Speaker A

You see this?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Let'S see.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker B

No, I haven't seen these.

Speaker A

Okay, so this is it.

Speaker A

This is the COVID.

Speaker B

Well, good, because I like that one the most.

Speaker A

It's.

Speaker A

The only thing is that we cut it off basically to make it square.

Speaker A

Cut it right here.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But he.

Speaker A

So we did that.

Speaker A

That's going to be the album cover.

Speaker A

The album cover itself is going to be sort of like this piece of art with a little white border, like a fancy.

Speaker A

Like a matted piece of art.

Speaker A

And that's it.

Speaker A

No writing on the COVID Just the piece of art.

Speaker A

The name of the album, I think is going to be called Sanctum.

Speaker A

But for the album, for the singles, Thomas has designed a bunch of these, like, very gregarious looking, like, ugly stickers that you would find in, like a discount record bin.

Speaker A

And he's slapped these, like, ugly stickers that are just too big just all over these albums.

Speaker A

And we're just gonna.

Speaker A

Those.

Speaker A

Each single is just gonna be represented by like this album cover.

Speaker A

Yeah, Big ugly sticker slapped on it, like single 99 cents or something.

Speaker B

You know, I love it.

Speaker A

So that's that.

Speaker A

So I'm gonna stop sharing.

Speaker A

So we were going to come up with some ideas to Promote hope, right?

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

I just had a brilliant idea.

Speaker B

What Podcast.

Speaker B

It's just me and you eating with the music playing on the background.

Speaker B

Just like our like mouth sounds like asmr like triggering misophonia in people but like the songs playing in the background.

Speaker A

Can you hear me chewing?

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

I'll stop.

Speaker B

It really doesn't bother me but ideas.

Speaker A

For promoting okay, so here's my first idea.

Speaker A

Let's ask ChatGPT what Chat GP think GPT thinks are good ideas for promoting a single.

Speaker A

Does that sound like a good place to start?

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

Do you have any ideas?

Speaker B

No, I don't.

Speaker A

That's actually a good idea.

Speaker A

Hello, Mr. Chatgpt or Mrs. Chatgpt can you please tell us can you Please give us 10 grassroots DIY ways to promote a musical single in today's modern age?

Speaker B

Today's modern age?

Speaker A

Can you please tell us promote a single in the year 1800?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

How dumb.

Speaker A

How dumb, how dumb.

Speaker A

Now can you please tell me ways to promote a single recording in the year 1300?

Speaker A

What about in the year 2500?

Speaker A

Okay, let's go through some ideas.

Speaker A

Grassroots DI Ways DIY Ways to Promote a musical single effectively in today's modern age without the needing a major label backing.

Speaker A

So it filled that in short form video content well, I don't have a TikTok account or YouTube shorts, Instagram Reels featuring the hook of your song with captions on screen personal storytelling about the song's meaning fun performance clips or looping parts.

Speaker A

That's number one.

Speaker A

So this is just the shorts video shorts 2 DM and share with micro creators personally message small creators 100 to 10,000 followers who align with your style and ask if they'd use their song in their content.

Speaker A

I think we could do that.

Speaker A

We could look at the lyrics of the song and see if anybody.

Speaker B

You.

Speaker A

Know what the the chorus of the song is climbing the is tonight we're climbing the walls or whatever it is.

Speaker A

What if we called all the rock climbing places we can we've heard ever heard of and told them that they need to play our song in their rock climbing space because it's appropriate.

Speaker B

I think you should talk to your sister.

Speaker B

She's the big rock climber.

Speaker A

She's the big rock climber.

Speaker A

Offer them a free download merch or shout out in exchange.

Speaker A

A shout out I can do.

Speaker A

But we don't have we have a.

Speaker B

Shirt.

Speaker A

Lyric and story posts.

Speaker A

Post the lyrics in an aesthetic typography on your stories and feed.

Speaker A

I did think about that for all the Songs actually cut all the songs up into lyrics and just post the lyrics, a thumbnail of the album cover and just a link to, you know, the YouTube version of the song so that anybody can stream it anywhere.

Speaker A

It doesn't, you know, I don't know.

Speaker A

Anyway, so we could do that, Share the story behind the lyrics.

Speaker A

I've already sort of done that.

Speaker A

I did.

Speaker A

I did a podcast with this songwriting consultant and she talked about the song.

Speaker A

I haven't released it yet, so maybe I'll get to releasing that.

Speaker A

And it has all this stuff about the song and I can cut it up.

Speaker A

Maybe cut up some of her stuff into short videos about what she thinks about the song and then just post links to the song with the little video shorts.

Speaker A

I don't know how to do video shorts.

Speaker B

You know, I bet Elizabeth does.

Speaker B

She probably does talk to a teeny.

Speaker A

I'm gonna have to hire Elizabeth to friggin do it.

Speaker B

There you go.

Speaker A

So email your list.

Speaker A

So this is the thing is we don't really have a legitimate list.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

But I think we actually do have a handshake list.

Speaker A

It might have like 30, 40 people on it.

Speaker B

But I'm thinking ChatGPT is assuming we're like an active like band that's like gigging and has lists and email lists and merch lists and all that stuff.

Speaker B

Well, maybe not.

Speaker A

I was thinking that we have a lot of friends.

Speaker A

Maybe I would just text everybody I know, like my entire contact list.

Speaker B

Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, that, you know, literally just trying to get it out there.

Speaker A

Hey, this is.

Speaker A

Hey, guess what?

Speaker A

I have a new single out.

Speaker A

Been a while.

Speaker A

Check it out.

Speaker A

If you're into rock and roll.

Speaker B

Yeah, that's probably.

Speaker B

That's obvious.

Speaker B

And probably the simplest thing to do.

Speaker A

So they say fan challenges.

Speaker A

Start with the challenge with a clear, simple action.

Speaker A

Film yourself walking to the song.

Speaker A

Sing this line and tag me.

Speaker A

Write your own verse to my beat.

Speaker A

Gorilla QR codes.

Speaker A

Print flyers with a QR code to your song and put them at Gorilla.

Speaker A

QR codes.

Speaker A

Print flyers with a QR code to your song and put them in cafes, music stores, guitar shops, gyms, record stores.

Speaker A

I'm not sure if I love that.

Speaker A

Perform live and promote the single.

Speaker A

Pitch to indie blogs and playlists.

Speaker A

Okay, so this is kind of where I was thinking more.

Speaker A

So, yeah.

Speaker A

Research small music blogs, playlist curators and local press.

Speaker A

Personalize each pitch with why your song.

Speaker A

Fits them, a one liner about what the song is about and direct streaming link plus your socials.

Speaker A

Okay, so that could be a Good model for that.

Speaker A

Like, just get an email ready.

Speaker A

Try to find as many, you know, emails to as many indie music blogs and playlisters that we can get.

Speaker A

I'm not sure how to find those things and just send them basically, like a mini press kit.

Speaker A

Number nine.

Speaker A

We're almost at the end.

Speaker A

Nine is collaborate with other musicians, do live or filmed acoustic versions, remixes, and covers together.

Speaker A

Post each to each other's audiences to expand reach.

Speaker A

I guess we could.

Speaker A

I could make a list of all the other artists we know and just see if.

Speaker A

Hey, share my.

Speaker A

This is my new single.

Speaker A

You mind sharing it?

Speaker A

And then finally, the last one is Meme It.

Speaker A

Create memes using lyrics, titles, or vibes of your song to tap into shareable humor.

Speaker A

I think there's a. I think that I don't know how to do memes very well, but I think maybe I should think about.

Speaker A

Because there's.

Speaker A

I do love the idea of doing kind of humorous things.

Speaker A

Like if there's a video of somebody climbing a wall or, you know, like maybe an animal frantically climbing a wall.

Speaker A

Like a funny cat videos, basically.

Speaker B

Oh, you know, I love cat videos.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So like, something like that.

Speaker A

Like a funny cat video, a cat frantically climbing a wall, you know, or whatever the other lyrics are.

Speaker A

I mean, I could pull up the lyrics and we could.

Speaker A

We could look at them and just see if we can brainstorm some ideas off that.

Speaker A

We have 10 minutes.

Speaker A

Yeah, you want to do that?

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Pull up these lyrics.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

I have a lyric sheet because when I was working with the songwriting consultant lady, she said, send me the stuff ahead of time.

Speaker A

There we go.

Speaker A

Can you see that?

Speaker B

I can see that.

Speaker A

What happens when I.

Speaker A

When I make it bigger or smaller?

Speaker A

Does it take up the whole screen for you?

Speaker B

No, it's just easier to read.

Speaker B

I still got the little tiles at the top, Both of us at the top, and then 90% of the screen.

Speaker B

Is that okay?

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

Where have you been tonight?

Speaker B

We're climbing the walls Tonight we're climbing the walls.

Speaker A

Oh, wait, the first line is, have you been here too long now?

Speaker A

You do not conform.

Speaker A

What if it's just the pictures of weird people?

Speaker B

Just like people in a waiting room.

Speaker A

Do not conform.

Speaker A

That's it.

Speaker A

There's not a lot of lyrics to this song.

Speaker A

I think you do not conform is.

Speaker A

There's some possibility there.

Speaker A

Tonight we're climbing the walls do you live in your head?

Speaker A

Are you tied to that bed?

Speaker A

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

I'm thinking something real hot right there.

Speaker B

Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker A

I mean, I think we could Find tons of people tied to their beds.

Speaker A

Somebody.

Speaker A

As soon as you say tied to your bed, somebody pops up in your background.

Speaker B

Yep.

Speaker A

Somebody say something.

Speaker B

Hey, tied up.

Speaker A

Like.

Speaker A

Like, like pops out of nowhere with handcuffs.

Speaker B

Hello.

Speaker B

Hello?

Speaker B

I'm here now.

Speaker B

Are you?

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

Did somebody say tied up?

Speaker B

Are you?

Speaker A

How about people?

Speaker A

Can you walk through the door?

Speaker B

I like that line.

Speaker B

Can you walk through that door?

Speaker B

And a silhouette of someone standing in a door.

Speaker A

What about.

Speaker A

What about just people walking into doors that are.

Speaker A

That they think are open but are actually not open?

Speaker B

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

Can you walk through that door?

Speaker B

And it's just like bloopers of people walking.

Speaker B

Or like walking through.

Speaker B

Not seeing the glass door that's there.

Speaker B

Just walking right into the glass.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Or like a dog.

Speaker A

You know when the dog, like, goes smashing through the screen door just like, full yeet.

Speaker B

Like, through the door, no hesitation.

Speaker B

Like, it's also flies and duck pieces.

Speaker B

You mean dog is, like, loving every minute of it.

Speaker A

Yeah, that's.

Speaker B

These are all great canine energy, just, like, to the max.

Speaker B

Yeah, I like the door.

Speaker B

I think doors actually are a great.

Speaker B

A great symbol, a great object.

Speaker B

Understood.

Speaker B

Universal.

Speaker B

They have meanings, they symbolism.

Speaker B

I like that.

Speaker B

Okay, I'm gonna put my vote there.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And I did.

Speaker A

So the other.

Speaker A

The only other one is, do you live in your head?

Speaker A

There is like, there is a preponderance of memes where people are sort of have this look on their face like.

Speaker A

Like this.

Speaker A

Like, you know, I mean, we could make that.

Speaker A

I could just do a video of me doing that with my eyes looking back and forth and just loop.

Speaker A

Do you live in your head?

Speaker A

Do you live in your head?

Speaker B

Oh, I like that too.

Speaker B

You know what?

Speaker A

Do you live in your head?

Speaker B

You live in your head.

Speaker B

I just want to say, if you walk through that door, you're either getting tied to a bed or climbing up a wall.

Speaker A

Listen, you're only getting out of here two ways.

Speaker B

Only it's only me.

Speaker A

So that bed or.

Speaker A

Or climbing that wall.

Speaker A

Those are your choices.

Speaker B

Your choices.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker A

All right.

Speaker A

So we came up with some ideas on that.

Speaker B

I do have to.

Speaker B

I don't mean to cut it short, but I do have to split soon.

Speaker A

That's good.

Speaker A

No, no, I think we did.

Speaker A

So that was, like, probably the most important thing.

Speaker A

Yeah, we covered the most important thing.

Speaker B

Good.

Speaker A

That was a real.

Speaker A

That was a good quickie.

Speaker B

Awesome.

Speaker B

You.

Speaker A

How are you otherwise?

Speaker A

How's your.

Speaker B

Pretty good.

Speaker A

You know what?

Speaker A

We've chatted a few times.

Speaker A

We have talked not at all about music.

Speaker B

I haven't been Doing much with music recently.

Speaker A

I just haven't gotta get that bass out, man.

Speaker B

I do, I do have to rip that bass out.

Speaker B

I. Yeah, I've been thinking about that.

Speaker B

I pulled out my strap.

Speaker B

Strap.

Speaker B

I tell it the other day, I'm like, oh my God, I gotta get new strings on here.

Speaker B

So, you know, nothing to get you fired up practicing again by putting a new set of strings on there, you know, so.

Speaker B

So yeah, I, I was, I just got back from shopping and I was, I, I obsessed with my car too much as you may know.

Speaker B

And I don't know if you can see.

Speaker B

You probably can't see.

Speaker B

You can't see shit on there that does not coming up at all.

Speaker B

I noticed a spot on my car.

Speaker B

I'm like, what's that?

Speaker B

And I go in there and there's touch up paint on my car.

Speaker B

I'm like, what the hell?

Speaker B

Someone had like scraped my car in the front.

Speaker B

This is like the front fender by the front, front lights.

Speaker B

It scraped it and then like done a little white touch up paint on it.

Speaker B

And I'm like, what the hell?

Speaker A

They went through all that.

Speaker B

This could only happen to.

Speaker B

It could have only happened where I work because I work at a car dealership, right?

Speaker B

So someone like scraped my car and was like, oh no, I'm gonna do this touch up paint.

Speaker B

And it's so amateur.

Speaker B

It looks like your first attempt at using like white out, it's just somebody who.

Speaker B

Then you go on there and then you go over it again and it starts getting lumpy because you didn't wait long enough.

Speaker B

And it looks like that.

Speaker B

But it was just enough to get me out of the parking lot and home before I noticed it.

Speaker B

But it's like either hit someone's car and just leave or hit the car and leave a note.

Speaker B

Don't do this.

Speaker B

Just makes it so much worse.

Speaker B

It just makes it so much worse because now it's like going to be twice as much work to get it to look right.

Speaker B

Because it's been.

Speaker B

Someone's put like weird paint all over.

Speaker B

Wasn't even a good job.

Speaker B

Like if you're gonna do it like.

Speaker A

You know, the problem is you're trying to get in and out of there fast.

Speaker A

That's why.

Speaker A

I mean.

Speaker B

And the thing is it's parked out in the parking lot.

Speaker B

So first of all, it's like 120 degrees out there.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

You know what I mean?

Speaker B

So whoever did it was just like.

Speaker B

And so I told my co workers, Christina, what I'm.

Speaker B

It's gonna be Impossible to prove who it is.

Speaker B

There was a little dark transfer on there.

Speaker B

It's clearly like a dark colored car.

Speaker B

I'm just gonna go key every dark colored car on the parking lot and touch it up with Sharpie.

Speaker B

Just be like, that's fine.

Speaker B

That's fine.

Speaker B

Yeah, my coworkers, like, go.

Speaker B

Go see which cars have scuffs on them and you'll be able to.

Speaker B

I'm like, this is a parking lot with 200 cars in the middle of the summer.

Speaker B

I'm going to be like, there's.

Speaker B

There's a scuff on your car.

Speaker B

It was you.

Speaker B

It's like, what the hell is that going to do?

Speaker B

There's a scuff on a car.

Speaker B

It's not like dental records.

Speaker B

It's not like tooth marks on my car.

Speaker B

You're like, it could only have been your.

Speaker B

It's like, yeah, my car is scuffed.

Speaker B

It's a 2015 Ford Explorer with like 200,000 miles on it.

Speaker B

Like, what?

Speaker B

So there's.

Speaker B

There's no hurt.

Speaker A

You're no way you're gonna find out.

Speaker A

Not even point.

Speaker B

But I am going to tell Kirby.

Speaker B

My.

Speaker B

The general manager.

Speaker B

Not necessarily.

Speaker B

I mean, it'd be nice if he helps me pay for touch ups, but I just thought he should know what his employees are doing.

Speaker B

Like, if you run a business, you would want someone to tell you that.

Speaker B

I'm not coming to you saying now you have to fix my car because some.

Speaker B

One of your employees did this, but I just thought you'd like to know that this happened on our lot.

Speaker B

Someone did this.

Speaker A

It's also got to be an employee.

Speaker B

Because it's got to be an employee.

Speaker B

It's the only person.

Speaker B

Only.

Speaker B

Only a car person would even think to do this.

Speaker B

First of all, only employees are driving this in the employee parking lot.

Speaker B

It's only employees, right?

Speaker B

Like, could it happen somewhere else?

Speaker B

I'm like, what?

Speaker B

My driveway?

Speaker B

What if it is like, my driveway is the other place?

Speaker B

The car is my house.

Speaker B

Drive four miles to work at work.

Speaker B

Back and forth, back and forth.

Speaker B

That's it.

Speaker B

Car doesn't go anywhere else with weird car people.

Speaker A

Here's an insane idea.

Speaker A

What if you did it?

Speaker A

What if you touched it up and then now you're going to your boss to say somebody else touched it up?

Speaker A

Is that like Agatha Christie?

Speaker B

Kirby, this car is damaged.

Speaker B

And I don't want you to think that I actually did this myself.

Speaker B

And now I'm trying to retroactively get you to cover it because I would never do something like that?

Speaker B

No.

Speaker B

First of all, I baby, this car.

Speaker B

Christina's like, could it have come in that way?

Speaker B

I'm like, christina, I hand wash this car at least once a week.

Speaker B

Like, I know every scratch, nick and imperfection on this car.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

So it's like.

Speaker B

No, there's just no way.

Speaker A

It's hilarious.

Speaker B

I know.

Speaker B

Anyway, that's what's going on.

Speaker A

Well, sorry that happened.

Speaker A

Anyway, but the thing is, it is kind of a funny story because it's so.

Speaker A

It's so improbable.

Speaker B

It's so half assed.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

I'm just disappointed in the quality of the work.

Speaker B

Like, if it was like expertly done, I was like, wow.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

All right, all right.

Speaker B

Because that's all I was going to have someone do anyway was touching up the only thing.

Speaker A

So the thing is that the only reason it's touched up is because I think they probably hoped you wouldn't notice for a while.

Speaker B

You really can't.

Speaker B

It's really not coming out, is it?

Speaker B

No, you can't.

Speaker A

No, I will.

Speaker B

I'll text it to you.

Speaker B

It's so funny.

Speaker B

No, they hope I wouldn't notice it.

Speaker B

And by the time I notice it, it's like, oh, it's been.

Speaker B

It's like, guess what?

Speaker B

I still backtrack him to the exact same spot.

Speaker B

I park in the same spot.

Speaker B

It's all my car.

Speaker B

Basically lives at the spot.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

What?

Speaker A

I. I don't.

Speaker A

I just don't like Unsolved Mysteries.

Speaker B

She's like a freaking private detective.

Speaker A

Yeah, she's like hermit too.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

No, she's out for blood.

Speaker B

Like at the slightest, like, indignation, like any, Any, any.

Speaker B

Any sort of like.

Speaker B

What's the word?

Speaker B

Like, lack of justice, any injustice in the world.

Speaker B

She becomes a good Sarah and it's slightly terrifying.

Speaker B

And I'm not the first person to say this to her, but I am one of many who says, remind me never to piss you off.

Speaker A

Right, Right.

Speaker B

So she's like.

Speaker B

She's like.

Speaker B

She'll do.

Speaker B

She'll do a chemical analysis on that touch up paint.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Anyway, all right, you gotta go.

Speaker B

I'm excited for this single release and.

Speaker B

And we'll do it again.

Speaker A

Good man.

Speaker A

Enjoy your session.

Speaker A

I'll see you later.

Speaker B

Bye.