1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,464 Welcome to Heaven Earth Church. 2 00:00:07,512 --> 00:00:09,416 My name is Ross Stackhouse. 3 00:00:09,448 --> 00:00:12,680 I'm the founding pastor of Heaven Earth Church. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,632 From the beginning, our heart was to be a church for people who 5 00:00:16,656 --> 00:00:18,696 don't fit neatly into church. 6 00:00:18,888 --> 00:00:22,712 Our heart is to meet people where they are, to learn their stories, 7 00:00:22,856 --> 00:00:24,072 to honor their stories. 8 00:00:24,136 --> 00:00:27,568 Because in every human story is God's story. 9 00:00:27,744 --> 00:00:31,120 In this podcast, you'll hear more about the people who now call 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,768 Heaven Earth Church home. 11 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:36,800 Their stories, in many cases of misfits who are discovering or 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,096 rediscovering faith. 13 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:41,808 If you want to know more about us, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org 14 00:00:41,984 --> 00:00:45,340 Otherwise, we invite you now into the story. 15 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:48,448 Hello, good people. 16 00:00:48,504 --> 00:00:53,402 Brad Miller here, the producer of the Heaven Earth Church podcast. 17 00:00:53,576 --> 00:00:57,142 One of the main benefits of being a part of the Heaven Earth 18 00:00:57,206 --> 00:01:03,254 Church community is our Sunday morning conversations taught by founding 19 00:01:03,302 --> 00:01:05,850 pastor Ross Stackhouse. 20 00:01:06,430 --> 00:01:11,450 You can watch and participate in the Sunday morning conversation 21 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:20,490 this Sunday morning, 9:30am Eastern time at YouTube.com heavenerthchurch. 22 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:26,174 The audio version of the Sunday morning conversation is available 23 00:01:26,262 --> 00:01:31,118 here on the podcast, which you can find at Apple Podcasts, Spotify 24 00:01:31,294 --> 00:01:39,470 and on the website, which is heavenearthchurch.org Here now is 25 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:43,050 part two of the Essentials message series. 26 00:01:43,430 --> 00:01:48,970 Humble, Hungry and Willing with Pastor Ross Dachaus. 27 00:02:04,190 --> 00:02:08,090 Let's pray, and then we'll have our conversation. 28 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:22,720 God, I ask that you would enlighten our minds to help us to 29 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:29,640 hear your word as we look at the words of the scriptures. 30 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:37,812 Help us to know your heart, to be changed by your heart, and to 31 00:02:37,836 --> 00:02:39,360 share your heart with others. 32 00:02:41,380 --> 00:02:45,360 In Jesus name, amen. 33 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:50,796 Hey, I know I've asked you this before, but I'll ask you again 34 00:02:50,868 --> 00:02:53,484 because it's one of our discipleship essentials and it's 35 00:02:53,532 --> 00:02:54,840 something that's so important. 36 00:02:56,420 --> 00:03:02,320 How do you define the word humility? 37 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:06,332 I know I've asked that before, but think about again, somebody that 38 00:03:06,356 --> 00:03:08,320 you consider to be very humble. 39 00:03:09,090 --> 00:03:10,538 What qualities do they have? 40 00:03:10,594 --> 00:03:11,710 What commitments? 41 00:03:16,770 --> 00:03:17,710 Debbie. 42 00:03:19,170 --> 00:03:21,230 They don't seek recognition. 43 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:22,430 Okay. 44 00:03:25,010 --> 00:03:25,498 What else? 45 00:03:25,514 --> 00:03:28,590 How do you define humble or humility? 46 00:03:32,930 --> 00:03:34,310 They think of others. 47 00:03:34,690 --> 00:03:35,630 Okay. 48 00:03:39,330 --> 00:03:41,310 Humility, Bobo. 49 00:03:45,410 --> 00:03:46,906 Like Jesus talks about in the Bible. 50 00:03:46,938 --> 00:03:49,082 He says when you give, don't let your left hand know what your 51 00:03:49,106 --> 00:03:49,930 right hand is doing. 52 00:03:49,970 --> 00:03:53,290 As opposed to the people who would be like, hey, hey, do you hear 53 00:03:53,330 --> 00:03:54,590 this clink? 54 00:03:55,010 --> 00:03:56,442 See what I did today? 55 00:03:56,626 --> 00:03:57,290 They don't know what. 56 00:03:57,330 --> 00:03:59,430 The left hand doesn't even know what the right hand's doing. 57 00:03:59,980 --> 00:04:00,840 Charles. 58 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:05,560 Being right sized. 59 00:04:10,860 --> 00:04:12,520 To either shrink. 60 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:14,276 Yeah. 61 00:04:14,468 --> 00:04:18,720 Or it's to kind of get maybe too big, you know? 62 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:19,748 Yeah. 63 00:04:19,844 --> 00:04:24,164 Fill the Space to appear, still hiding. 64 00:04:24,292 --> 00:04:29,262 Yeah, yeah, you can. 65 00:04:29,366 --> 00:04:35,614 Humility is very closely, closely related in Charles definition 66 00:04:35,662 --> 00:04:37,902 there to like, authenticity or true self. 67 00:04:37,966 --> 00:04:43,374 Like, you can shrink, kind of be embarrassed, ashamed, not want 68 00:04:43,382 --> 00:04:45,410 to be, not want to show yourself. 69 00:04:45,910 --> 00:04:49,678 Or you can like overcompensate for maybe insecurity or shame and 70 00:04:49,814 --> 00:04:52,250 really take up a lot of space. 71 00:04:52,980 --> 00:04:54,120 Things like that. 72 00:04:55,060 --> 00:04:59,520 How do you define humility, Kirsten? 73 00:05:05,380 --> 00:05:06,360 Doing things. 74 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:09,800 Doing things because they need to be done or because they're right, 75 00:05:12,260 --> 00:05:16,252 not because others are going to see you right for the recognition. 76 00:05:16,396 --> 00:05:17,644 It's about motives. 77 00:05:17,772 --> 00:05:21,354 Like your motives for doing something is because it's necessary 78 00:05:21,402 --> 00:05:23,578 to be done, it's right to do it. 79 00:05:23,714 --> 00:05:26,270 Not like, so you can get a trophy. 80 00:05:29,970 --> 00:05:30,506 What else? 81 00:05:30,538 --> 00:05:31,818 How do you define humility? 82 00:05:31,914 --> 00:05:34,790 Folks online, hello, let's hear from you. 83 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:40,110 Humility. 84 00:05:44,850 --> 00:05:46,740 Oh, wait, Andy. 85 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,420 Doing something knowing that the person can't repay you. 86 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,500 So you're not doing it for a transaction. 87 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,420 You're not making somebody a means to an end. 88 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,380 I like that. 89 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:24,394 Anybody else not putting yourself above others? 90 00:06:24,562 --> 00:06:25,310 Yeah. 91 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:33,946 Well, the reason we're talking about this is because we've started 92 00:06:34,018 --> 00:06:38,550 a series of conversations that's based on what we call here 93 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:41,600 discipleship essentials. 94 00:06:42,260 --> 00:06:46,444 We asked a question, a group of us did, were asking the question 95 00:06:46,532 --> 00:06:47,068 months ago. 96 00:06:47,124 --> 00:06:53,660 We met over some weeks and we said, like, if there was a committed, 97 00:06:53,740 --> 00:06:59,440 fruitful, flourishing disciple of Jesus or apprentice of Jesus, 98 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:01,880 what would they look like? 99 00:07:02,980 --> 00:07:05,884 How would we know that that person is a committed, fruitful, 100 00:07:05,932 --> 00:07:08,980 flourishing disciple of Jesus? 101 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,680 What kind of fruit would they be bearing in their lives and what 102 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,660 kind of essentials would they be practicing? 103 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,860 What would be their kind of bare necessities? 104 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,020 Look for the bare necessities. 105 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,560 I'm going to sing a Disney song every week. 106 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,860 I think I'm pulling it off the simple bare necessities. 107 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,980 What would the bare necessities be? 108 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,168 Well, I don't know if you know, but there's not like a completely 109 00:07:42,264 --> 00:07:43,112 right answer to this. 110 00:07:43,136 --> 00:07:44,820 I think there are some wrong things. 111 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,344 But this group, when you brought something to the table, you 112 00:07:48,352 --> 00:07:52,152 had to bring some evidence, some scripture, some life experience 113 00:07:52,256 --> 00:07:54,180 to say, like, hey, here's what it is. 114 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,100 We whittled it down to five, and I showed you these last week. 115 00:08:00,970 --> 00:08:05,362 These are the essentials that if you invest in these, that you 116 00:08:05,386 --> 00:08:08,274 practice these, you're committed to these, they'll produce 117 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:11,234 a certain kind of fruit that looks like fullness and wholeness 118 00:08:11,282 --> 00:08:15,910 of life in Jesus, an eternal kind of life that Jesus promises. 119 00:08:17,290 --> 00:08:21,938 So number one is that we realize that Jesus talks a lot about 120 00:08:22,074 --> 00:08:27,074 this inside out Transformation rather than trying to graft fruit 121 00:08:27,122 --> 00:08:32,520 onto a tree producing tree from deep transformation that comes 122 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:35,300 from the roots up through the trunk and out. 123 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:39,816 And the best way that that inside out transformation comes is 124 00:08:39,968 --> 00:08:43,464 learning and practicing a continuous companionship with God. 125 00:08:43,592 --> 00:08:44,760 So what's the opposite of that? 126 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,312 Or the contrast of that would be like, okay, I have my devotional 127 00:08:48,376 --> 00:08:54,940 time for 15 minutes at 7:15am and then I do my bedtime prayers 128 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:59,502 and then I go to the Heaven Earth Church Sunday gathering for 129 00:08:59,526 --> 00:09:00,558 an hour every week. 130 00:09:00,614 --> 00:09:03,006 Some of you are like, Ross, I ain't doing all that well, let's 131 00:09:03,038 --> 00:09:04,958 say hypothetically you were doing all that. 132 00:09:05,094 --> 00:09:06,010 That's great. 133 00:09:07,270 --> 00:09:11,230 But honestly, what we're growing toward is this continuous 134 00:09:11,310 --> 00:09:18,382 companionship with God, like awareness of God's presence all the 135 00:09:18,406 --> 00:09:18,638 time. 136 00:09:18,694 --> 00:09:22,808 And then, yes, having those special times where it's just us 137 00:09:22,864 --> 00:09:27,016 and God in a secret room in our house, so to speak, as Jesus 138 00:09:27,048 --> 00:09:29,380 says, and letting that shape us from the inside out. 139 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:31,940 Number two is what we're talking about today. 140 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:39,420 It is the HHW mindset, the humble, hungry, willing mindset. 141 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:44,872 Humble, hungry and willing to seek Jesus. 142 00:09:45,016 --> 00:09:46,088 Talk about today. 143 00:09:46,224 --> 00:09:48,696 Next week we're going to talk about grace and the great commands 144 00:09:48,728 --> 00:09:49,580 at the core. 145 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,500 Lord have mercy. 146 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:58,296 And then the week after that we're going to talk about this one's 147 00:09:58,328 --> 00:10:00,620 a shorter one, the scent essential. 148 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,656 Another name for this is the Cornelius principle from Acts 10. 149 00:10:05,808 --> 00:10:09,496 It's taking seriously the idea that God sends us to people and God 150 00:10:09,528 --> 00:10:16,712 sends people to us and like listening to those nudges about the 151 00:10:16,736 --> 00:10:21,412 people or the places to whom or to where God sends us before we 152 00:10:21,436 --> 00:10:22,320 know why. 153 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:24,484 So we may be. 154 00:10:24,572 --> 00:10:27,572 We keep getting these nudges that like God is asking us to like, 155 00:10:27,596 --> 00:10:28,980 listen to our co worker. 156 00:10:29,060 --> 00:10:32,628 We just keep getting these nudges and signs and we just follow 157 00:10:32,684 --> 00:10:32,900 through. 158 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:33,668 We don't know why. 159 00:10:33,724 --> 00:10:37,284 We just get enough vision for just the next step to show up alongside 160 00:10:37,332 --> 00:10:41,920 that person or to show up at that place and love people. 161 00:10:42,540 --> 00:10:47,694 And the last one is great collaboration with the big good news 162 00:10:47,862 --> 00:10:49,342 that we'll talk about the last week. 163 00:10:49,366 --> 00:10:52,238 We're going to talk about again how I and kind of we think 164 00:10:52,294 --> 00:10:54,290 about the gospel of Jesus. 165 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:57,690 Jesus says the kingdom of the heavens has come near. 166 00:10:58,470 --> 00:11:02,730 Like Jesus has a mission to renew all things, including us. 167 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:06,414 And he invites us to be changed by that and be a part of 168 00:11:06,422 --> 00:11:06,974 it. 169 00:11:07,142 --> 00:11:10,654 And each of us is uniquely gifted to do that. 170 00:11:10,822 --> 00:11:12,526 So we'll talk about that week five. 171 00:11:12,678 --> 00:11:15,370 But today it's week two. 172 00:11:16,070 --> 00:11:18,334 And I want to talk about this one thing. 173 00:11:18,502 --> 00:11:19,822 No, that's from last week. 174 00:11:19,846 --> 00:11:21,130 Ross, come on now. 175 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:26,250 It's this one right here. 176 00:11:27,830 --> 00:11:31,610 If we are humble, hungry and willing to seek Jesus, we will experience 177 00:11:32,070 --> 00:11:36,890 eternal life and we will want this life for everyone. 178 00:11:38,030 --> 00:11:42,250 We will want this life to invade and take over Earth. 179 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:46,930 Ross, what is eternal life? 180 00:11:49,790 --> 00:11:51,330 Everybody knows that, right? 181 00:11:56,190 --> 00:11:58,198 That's not what the sermon is about today. 182 00:11:58,254 --> 00:12:02,102 But have you heard that term before? 183 00:12:02,206 --> 00:12:03,210 Heard that phrase? 184 00:12:03,930 --> 00:12:06,034 It's a little phrase, right, that shows up in the church. 185 00:12:06,082 --> 00:12:06,818 If you've been in the church. 186 00:12:06,834 --> 00:12:08,626 If you haven't been in the church, I'm honestly kind of happy 187 00:12:08,658 --> 00:12:09,470 for you. 188 00:12:12,810 --> 00:12:20,354 It is such a rich term in the original language that the word eternal 189 00:12:20,402 --> 00:12:22,270 almost means without time. 190 00:12:24,090 --> 00:12:25,390 Without time. 191 00:12:27,930 --> 00:12:31,586 So, Ross, is eternal, is it about quality of life or quantity 192 00:12:31,618 --> 00:12:32,216 of life? 193 00:12:32,338 --> 00:12:33,040 Yes. 194 00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:40,396 Is eternal a description of a quality of life or quantity of life? 195 00:12:40,468 --> 00:12:41,120 Yes. 196 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:46,124 Dallas Willard, that's why he uses the phrase. 197 00:12:46,172 --> 00:12:48,680 And by the way, Dallas Willard is like. 198 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:52,360 I mean, people love his book. 199 00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:59,904 So, like, I'm in line with some pretty, you know, normal, ordinary 200 00:12:59,952 --> 00:13:00,432 thinkers here. 201 00:13:00,456 --> 00:13:02,208 I'm not saying anything way out of school today. 202 00:13:02,264 --> 00:13:02,960 He talks about. 203 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,300 He describes the life with Jesus as an eternal kind of life 204 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,416 to help us to think of it differently. 205 00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:12,300 An eternal kind of life. 206 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,820 And that's the way Jesus talks about it, too. 207 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,824 Is Jesus talking about quality or quantity? 208 00:13:17,872 --> 00:13:18,144 Yes. 209 00:13:18,192 --> 00:13:23,200 Jesus is talking about how our lives truly take on the character 210 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,670 of characteristics of the kingdom of the heavens. 211 00:13:27,970 --> 00:13:33,642 As we belong to Jesus and become citizens of his kingdom, we 212 00:13:33,666 --> 00:13:35,510 put that citizenship first. 213 00:13:36,690 --> 00:13:39,594 Something happens deep within us that bears fruit. 214 00:13:39,642 --> 00:13:40,470 On the outside. 215 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:44,602 We look like people who have been living in a different kind of 216 00:13:44,626 --> 00:13:45,470 household. 217 00:13:47,810 --> 00:13:49,354 But also it is quantity. 218 00:13:49,402 --> 00:13:53,802 Jesus does talk about, like, how if we belong to Jesus, we are 219 00:13:53,826 --> 00:13:56,110 a part of this life that never ends. 220 00:13:57,010 --> 00:14:00,350 We didn't totally miss that in traditional Christianity. 221 00:14:01,570 --> 00:14:06,310 Sometimes we just kind of, in my opinion, distorted heaven a lot. 222 00:14:07,970 --> 00:14:12,954 But Jesus does talk about, like, how if we are like, in God's 223 00:14:13,002 --> 00:14:15,402 love, nothing beats God's love. 224 00:14:15,506 --> 00:14:18,410 Nothing has power that is stronger than God's love, not even 225 00:14:18,450 --> 00:14:19,030 death. 226 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:22,970 So he does talk about this promise that we will. 227 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:24,798 Death will be no more. 228 00:14:24,854 --> 00:14:26,782 Revelation 21. 229 00:14:26,886 --> 00:14:30,490 When the city of Heaven comes to earth, death will be no more. 230 00:14:31,590 --> 00:14:33,250 There will be no more tears. 231 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:38,130 So eternal life in Jesus mind is quality and quantity. 232 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:42,270 We can live without fear of death, and we can live with this 233 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:44,350 sort of transformation kind of life. 234 00:14:44,390 --> 00:14:45,370 Are you with me? 235 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,912 If you want to disagree with me, I told you it's not what the 236 00:14:48,936 --> 00:14:49,984 sermon's about today. 237 00:14:50,072 --> 00:14:50,992 So just stay with me. 238 00:14:51,016 --> 00:14:51,456 If you. 239 00:14:51,528 --> 00:14:52,496 We can Talk afterwards. 240 00:14:52,528 --> 00:14:53,056 Okay. 241 00:14:53,168 --> 00:14:53,824 If this was like. 242 00:14:53,832 --> 00:14:55,232 No, Ross, we need to keep talking about this. 243 00:14:55,256 --> 00:14:57,216 Sorry, we got to keep going with humble, hungry, and willing. 244 00:14:57,248 --> 00:14:59,260 Okay, deal. 245 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:01,552 All right. 246 00:15:01,576 --> 00:15:03,072 I got to show you how. 247 00:15:03,256 --> 00:15:06,096 I want to show you what humble, hungry and willing looks 248 00:15:06,128 --> 00:15:06,704 like. 249 00:15:06,872 --> 00:15:12,670 And how if we are humble, hungry and willing, what will grow 250 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:14,590 within us is an eternal kind of life. 251 00:15:14,630 --> 00:15:15,490 Like Jesus. 252 00:15:17,270 --> 00:15:22,062 All right, this is. 253 00:15:22,246 --> 00:15:24,810 This story takes place in Luke, chapter five. 254 00:15:28,950 --> 00:15:29,902 It's when Jesus. 255 00:15:29,966 --> 00:15:30,814 So rewind. 256 00:15:30,862 --> 00:15:31,326 We started. 257 00:15:31,398 --> 00:15:35,134 We were in this part of the Gospel of Luke when we were in the 258 00:15:35,142 --> 00:15:37,416 Resolution series at the beginning of January. 259 00:15:37,598 --> 00:15:39,880 So Jesus is around his hometown. 260 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:49,316 He was standing by that lake, which is also called the Sea of Galilee. 261 00:15:49,348 --> 00:15:50,372 It's a freshwater lake. 262 00:15:50,436 --> 00:15:52,640 The Bible's always trying to confuse us, man. 263 00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:55,200 Can we just call things by one name? 264 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:58,160 Dag on, it's already hard. 265 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:02,836 One day, Jesus was standing beside Jesus, just gotten started 266 00:16:02,908 --> 00:16:04,360 in Luke's gospel. 267 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:06,958 He has not called his disciples yet. 268 00:16:07,014 --> 00:16:09,170 This is a little bit of a difference. 269 00:16:10,630 --> 00:16:14,382 Jesus has done a few things, but he hasn't called his disciples 270 00:16:14,446 --> 00:16:15,050 yet. 271 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:19,570 He hasn't invited people to come follow him and be his apprentices 272 00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:22,730 and learn this eternal kind of life. 273 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:27,730 The crowd pressed in around to hear God's word. 274 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:31,518 Jesus can't even have a good day at the beach. 275 00:16:31,614 --> 00:16:33,770 People are like, hey, can you tell us something, man? 276 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,168 And so Jesus is resourceful. 277 00:16:40,264 --> 00:16:42,460 He saw two boats sitting by the lake. 278 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,980 The fishermen had gone ashore and were washing their nets. 279 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,340 Jesus boarded one of the boats, the one that belonged to Simon. 280 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,744 Simon, I mean, apparently didn't ask, simon, can I use your 281 00:17:00,752 --> 00:17:01,820 boat for a minute? 282 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,620 And then he puts them to work. 283 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,660 Hey, I need you to row out a little bit, please? 284 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,580 And he sat down in the boat and taught the crowds from the boat. 285 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,620 Look at how Jesus meets people where they are. 286 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,220 Look at how Jesus practices the scent essential. 287 00:17:29,530 --> 00:17:32,786 The scent essential for us, corresponds to our community core 288 00:17:32,818 --> 00:17:33,986 value here at Heaven Earth Church. 289 00:17:34,018 --> 00:17:36,950 We want to meet people where they are and see them as God's masterpiece. 290 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:39,714 Ross, I'm confused. 291 00:17:39,762 --> 00:17:42,514 We have core values and essentials and a mission and a vision. 292 00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:43,470 Yeah, we do. 293 00:17:43,850 --> 00:17:45,538 I promise they work. 294 00:17:45,594 --> 00:17:46,390 Okay. 295 00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:50,482 When he finished speaking to the crowds, we don't know what he 296 00:17:50,506 --> 00:17:51,310 taught on. 297 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:59,644 He said to Simon, row out farther into the deep water and drop 298 00:17:59,692 --> 00:18:01,200 your nets for a catch. 299 00:18:03,620 --> 00:18:05,080 Watch this, too. 300 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:07,836 The sentessential is still at work. 301 00:18:07,908 --> 00:18:09,676 Ross, I thought we were talking about number two today. 302 00:18:09,748 --> 00:18:13,212 Well, the essentials are happening everywhere all the time 303 00:18:13,316 --> 00:18:14,396 because it's Jesus. 304 00:18:14,508 --> 00:18:15,360 Okay? 305 00:18:17,620 --> 00:18:21,966 You might think that Jesus didn't notice or care that These 306 00:18:22,038 --> 00:18:27,134 guys, these fishermen had worked the third shift, the graveyard 307 00:18:27,182 --> 00:18:31,330 shift, trying to catch fish, and they come up with nothing. 308 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:36,370 They'd worked all night and were empty. 309 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:39,742 So, first of all, part of the scripture is speaking to people who 310 00:18:39,766 --> 00:18:42,654 feel like they're hustling, hustling, hustling, working, working, 311 00:18:42,742 --> 00:18:43,326 working. 312 00:18:43,478 --> 00:18:45,650 They're drowning, but they're thirsty. 313 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:55,580 Your life is full of activity, but not full of quality activity, 314 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,100 not fruitful activity. 315 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,740 He notices. 316 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,260 Do you notice the people you walk alongside every day? 317 00:19:13,050 --> 00:19:14,750 But we're not talking about that. 318 00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:18,550 Simon replied. 319 00:19:20,570 --> 00:19:21,842 Can you read? 320 00:19:22,026 --> 00:19:23,554 Stop at the but. 321 00:19:23,722 --> 00:19:26,146 Okay, just read the first sentence. 322 00:19:26,338 --> 00:19:27,138 Are you with me? 323 00:19:27,194 --> 00:19:28,390 Simon replied. 324 00:19:33,290 --> 00:19:34,354 Okay, good. 325 00:19:34,442 --> 00:19:36,434 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 326 00:19:36,562 --> 00:19:37,470 Thank you. 327 00:19:38,980 --> 00:19:43,200 I want you to imagine for a minute we don't have that next sentence. 328 00:19:44,420 --> 00:19:45,724 This is why you got. 329 00:19:45,812 --> 00:19:47,260 The Bible is not a manual. 330 00:19:47,340 --> 00:19:48,480 Right, Angie. 331 00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:50,640 It's living, it's breathing. 332 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:57,964 What happens in the gaps is as important as what happens beyond 333 00:19:58,012 --> 00:19:58,508 them. 334 00:19:58,644 --> 00:20:02,476 What happens in between the words matters just as much sometimes 335 00:20:02,508 --> 00:20:03,920 as what happens with the words. 336 00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:07,670 How did this Simon fella say that sentence? 337 00:20:08,570 --> 00:20:11,682 Well, if you didn't have the second sentence, it might sound like 338 00:20:11,706 --> 00:20:12,270 this. 339 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:16,310 Master, we've worked hard all night and caught nothing. 340 00:20:18,410 --> 00:20:22,630 Translation, bro, you are a stonemason. 341 00:20:28,010 --> 00:20:29,990 We do this for a living. 342 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,536 My daddy fished this lake. 343 00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:35,020 His daddy fished this lake. 344 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,888 We're not just fishermen. 345 00:20:36,984 --> 00:20:38,220 This is our lake. 346 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,152 So I get that everybody wanted to hear your teaching and you think 347 00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:48,936 you're a big deal, but we are fishermen, and this is our lake. 348 00:20:49,128 --> 00:20:50,616 We worked hard all night. 349 00:20:50,688 --> 00:20:53,672 So it's real rich for you to show up this morning and tell us 350 00:20:53,696 --> 00:20:54,660 what to do. 351 00:20:57,530 --> 00:21:04,150 You ever have that in your heart with people or with God? 352 00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:11,122 They don't say it like that. 353 00:21:11,146 --> 00:21:12,190 Do you know why? 354 00:21:12,810 --> 00:21:14,230 Because they're humble. 355 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:19,270 I ask for your definition. 356 00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:22,760 Show it here. 357 00:21:27,380 --> 00:21:29,920 Lots of text, but I wanted all this text. 358 00:21:32,260 --> 00:21:34,480 Here's some ways to think about humility. 359 00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:40,360 They have the thing in their heart that makes everything possible. 360 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:45,580 I would wager that one of the things that our culture and society 361 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:52,064 is suffering so greatly from, that we have an egregious deficit 362 00:21:52,112 --> 00:21:58,140 of humility, especially amongst the people who have power, 363 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:08,640 Republicans and Democrats alike, we have a sickening deficit 364 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,440 of humility. 365 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,184 A lack of this. 366 00:22:11,352 --> 00:22:15,184 These guys actually believe that there is something greater than 367 00:22:15,272 --> 00:22:17,340 someone greater than them. 368 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,900 They actually believe that. 369 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,940 They take so seriously that there's so much that they don't know. 370 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,576 That's one of their assumptions about life. 371 00:22:32,728 --> 00:22:34,300 We don't know a lot. 372 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:45,436 Can you imagine some of our leaders publicly saying, you know, 373 00:22:45,508 --> 00:22:46,760 I don't know yet. 374 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:48,840 I'm learning about that. 375 00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:51,080 What? 376 00:22:56,260 --> 00:22:59,452 Even though they've experienced so much and seen so much, 377 00:22:59,556 --> 00:23:03,000 they believe that there's a lot that they've not seen yet. 378 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:05,440 That's like their assumption. 379 00:23:07,150 --> 00:23:10,966 They don't believe that they are the center of the universe with 380 00:23:11,038 --> 00:23:13,010 all things orbiting them. 381 00:23:14,190 --> 00:23:24,170 Uh, they believe that the center of gravity is somewhere else 382 00:23:25,390 --> 00:23:26,890 with someone else. 383 00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:28,918 What? 384 00:23:28,974 --> 00:23:31,878 You'll see like, like one of our planets. 385 00:23:31,974 --> 00:23:35,498 Last time I checked, like, Venus wasn't like. 386 00:23:35,634 --> 00:23:36,630 You know what? 387 00:23:37,170 --> 00:23:39,390 I don't like where I'm at in this situation. 388 00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:41,706 I'm gonna switch with Earth. 389 00:23:41,818 --> 00:23:43,030 I'm sick of it. 390 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:45,290 You know what? 391 00:23:45,330 --> 00:23:47,030 In fact, I don't like the sun. 392 00:23:47,970 --> 00:23:50,234 I'm gonna try to be the center dog here. 393 00:23:50,322 --> 00:23:51,430 I'm sick of this. 394 00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:53,674 I'm sick of just being in an acronym. 395 00:23:53,722 --> 00:23:54,522 Nobody thinks of me. 396 00:23:54,546 --> 00:23:55,402 Nobody cares about me. 397 00:23:55,426 --> 00:23:56,458 Nobody lives on me. 398 00:23:56,514 --> 00:23:57,050 I hate it. 399 00:23:57,090 --> 00:23:58,026 I'm sick of it. 400 00:23:58,178 --> 00:23:59,146 I wanna be the sinner. 401 00:23:59,178 --> 00:23:59,786 I am the sinner. 402 00:23:59,818 --> 00:24:00,202 You know what? 403 00:24:00,226 --> 00:24:01,444 I am the sinner. 404 00:24:01,602 --> 00:24:02,700 Forget it. 405 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:05,296 You think that's funny? 406 00:24:05,328 --> 00:24:13,664 But like, that's pretty much human beings center gravity people 407 00:24:13,752 --> 00:24:15,500 exist to orbit me. 408 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,420 That's what I'm about. 409 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,300 No, these planets. 410 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:33,050 We exist on one are very happy to exist in this perfect, harmonious, 411 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:39,610 graceful dance around this impossibly wonderful thing we call 412 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:41,190 the star or the sun. 413 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:47,790 They're happy to exist where they do in this Milky Way galaxy 414 00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:51,630 and to let the sun be the center of gravity. 415 00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:54,840 Isn't that cool? 416 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:58,880 The disciples are like that. 417 00:25:00,220 --> 00:25:01,364 Look what they say. 418 00:25:01,452 --> 00:25:04,000 Oh my God, I want to be like them. 419 00:25:05,660 --> 00:25:07,040 I am like them. 420 00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:12,372 Look at this. 421 00:25:12,476 --> 00:25:13,720 It's so cool. 422 00:25:17,020 --> 00:25:20,040 This is why we have to like chew on the scriptures. 423 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,880 We gotta like spend time with them and search for God's heart through 424 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,168 them. 425 00:25:26,224 --> 00:25:27,464 Don't treat it like a textbook. 426 00:25:27,512 --> 00:25:28,460 Good Lord. 427 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,464 Yes, these words are authoritative. 428 00:25:31,592 --> 00:25:34,216 God gave us these words to wrestle with above all else. 429 00:25:34,328 --> 00:25:35,540 Wrestle with them. 430 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,576 Okay, now you can read the whole verse. 431 00:25:39,768 --> 00:25:41,100 Simon replied. 432 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,780 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 433 00:25:47,050 --> 00:25:51,150 You sound like an eighth grade science class at 7:30 in the morning. 434 00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:53,110 This is exciting. 435 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:56,082 This is Jesus. 436 00:25:56,146 --> 00:25:58,350 God in the flesh, teaching us. 437 00:25:59,130 --> 00:25:59,778 Try again. 438 00:25:59,834 --> 00:26:00,950 Simon replied. 439 00:26:10,650 --> 00:26:13,298 Our entire church pursuit could be summed up in this. 440 00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:14,750 Because you say so. 441 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:23,788 Our entire church's heart is to figure out what Jesus says and 442 00:26:23,844 --> 00:26:29,340 does and try to be about that many days. 443 00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:31,800 You might be like, I don't like what Ross said up there today. 444 00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:36,120 He offended me. 445 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:38,300 Sorry. 446 00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:39,596 Well, sometimes I'm not. 447 00:26:39,668 --> 00:26:41,116 But sometimes, sometimes I am. 448 00:26:41,188 --> 00:26:41,676 I'm a guy. 449 00:26:41,708 --> 00:26:42,780 I'm just a guy. 450 00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:45,596 Try to prepare well for our conversations together. 451 00:26:45,748 --> 00:26:48,428 Try to be a good steward of your heart and your mind, your time. 452 00:26:48,564 --> 00:26:49,960 I'm just a guy, though. 453 00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:55,760 My heart, the heart of this church, one of our core values. 454 00:26:56,180 --> 00:26:59,040 We want to fix our eyes on Jesus and live by his spirit. 455 00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:03,164 And our discipleship essential. 456 00:27:03,212 --> 00:27:05,404 We want to be humble, hungry, and willing to seek Jesus. 457 00:27:05,452 --> 00:27:06,188 What does he say? 458 00:27:06,244 --> 00:27:06,448 When? 459 00:27:06,484 --> 00:27:07,304 What does he do? 460 00:27:07,392 --> 00:27:09,140 We want to be about that. 461 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,460 This guy Peter, he doesn't even know Jesus yet. 462 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:17,976 He doesn't. 463 00:27:18,088 --> 00:27:19,944 It's one thing to know somebody. 464 00:27:19,992 --> 00:27:22,700 It's another thing entirely to trust somebody. 465 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,128 He doesn't know him yet. 466 00:27:25,264 --> 00:27:26,900 He's acquainted with him. 467 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,360 They live in the same area. 468 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,620 It's a small town. 469 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,832 They probably heard the disciples. 470 00:27:31,896 --> 00:27:34,872 Like there's this fellow named Jesus who been hanging around Walmart, 471 00:27:34,936 --> 00:27:35,940 healing people. 472 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,352 They've heard that. 473 00:27:39,456 --> 00:27:40,312 They maybe saw him. 474 00:27:40,336 --> 00:27:41,160 Like, there he is over there. 475 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,860 Gosh, he's acting bizarre. 476 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,400 They've seen that. 477 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,472 They're acquainted with him. 478 00:27:46,496 --> 00:27:47,320 They don't know him. 479 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,432 It's one thing to know somebody, another thing to trust 480 00:27:49,496 --> 00:27:50,300 somebody. 481 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,660 And yet these guys are humble. 482 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,872 Peter doesn't say, this is my lake, I'm a fisherman. 483 00:27:58,936 --> 00:28:00,056 You're just some artisan. 484 00:28:00,088 --> 00:28:01,340 Get out of here, pal. 485 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:15,496 No, he says, Jesus says, hey, we've worked hard all night, but 486 00:28:15,568 --> 00:28:21,460 because you say so, I'll give it a try. 487 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,220 Give it a try. 488 00:28:27,490 --> 00:28:32,746 I put up in our email that went out this week, Heaven Earth 489 00:28:32,778 --> 00:28:33,530 Church email. 490 00:28:33,650 --> 00:28:35,590 If you don't get it, you want to get it. 491 00:28:37,650 --> 00:28:39,834 Heather, you can get on the Church center app. 492 00:28:40,002 --> 00:28:44,922 You enter in your information and email address, everything, and 493 00:28:44,946 --> 00:28:45,770 you'll start getting it. 494 00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:47,898 If you don't want the email, don't give us your email address 495 00:28:47,954 --> 00:28:49,562 because it'll automatically start sending it to you. 496 00:28:49,586 --> 00:28:52,538 I know we should probably do better on that, but I talked about, 497 00:28:52,594 --> 00:28:56,146 like, for much of my life as a Christian, I had this thought buried 498 00:28:56,178 --> 00:29:00,034 deep down in the back of my brain and was motivating a lot of 499 00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:01,070 my faith life. 500 00:29:01,690 --> 00:29:03,618 If you would have said, ross, do you believe this? 501 00:29:03,674 --> 00:29:05,266 I would have said, no, I don't believe that. 502 00:29:05,418 --> 00:29:08,626 But actually, sometimes those thoughts are buried deep down, motivating 503 00:29:08,658 --> 00:29:08,946 us. 504 00:29:09,018 --> 00:29:11,602 And that thought was basically all the things Jesus is saying and 505 00:29:11,626 --> 00:29:12,978 telling us to do is a big test. 506 00:29:13,034 --> 00:29:14,390 It's an interest exam. 507 00:29:15,610 --> 00:29:20,044 Like, you might take the GRE or the MCAT or the SAT or whatever. 508 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:21,052 Basically, Jesus is. 509 00:29:21,076 --> 00:29:23,040 All this stuff is just an entrance exam. 510 00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:26,360 If you do it well at the end, you get to enter. 511 00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:30,396 Now, if you would have asked me when I was 22. 512 00:29:30,468 --> 00:29:31,820 Ross, do you think that. 513 00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:32,316 No. 514 00:29:32,388 --> 00:29:32,764 What? 515 00:29:32,852 --> 00:29:33,520 Nuh. 516 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:34,476 No. 517 00:29:34,548 --> 00:29:35,644 I don't believe that. 518 00:29:35,812 --> 00:29:37,640 Motivating me a lot. 519 00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:42,840 What I now realize, what I now believe. 520 00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:45,782 Jesus doesn't work that way. 521 00:29:45,806 --> 00:29:46,390 He's not a. 522 00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:47,730 He doesn't play games. 523 00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:53,334 I believe what he's actually telling us is the way life actually 524 00:29:53,422 --> 00:29:54,170 works. 525 00:29:56,110 --> 00:30:01,254 Like, he's telling Mark and me, like, how we're actually created 526 00:30:01,302 --> 00:30:02,210 to live. 527 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:07,462 So when he says, like, Dave, why. 528 00:30:07,646 --> 00:30:11,998 I'm not assuming you did this week, Dave, but Dave, why do you 529 00:30:12,054 --> 00:30:14,862 point out the speck of dust in your neighbor's eye when you got 530 00:30:14,886 --> 00:30:16,050 a plank in yours? 531 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:23,918 Take out the plank of wood in yours, and then you'll see clearly. 532 00:30:24,094 --> 00:30:25,850 He's telling us how we work. 533 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:28,622 He's telling us how the kingdom of the heavens work. 534 00:30:28,726 --> 00:30:35,850 When he says, don't treasure earthly things. 535 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,864 Desire first the kingdom of the heavens and God's righteousness. 536 00:30:41,912 --> 00:30:44,100 And all these other things will be added to you. 537 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,472 Don't seek heavenly treasures where moths and rust destroy and 538 00:30:48,496 --> 00:30:49,592 thieves break in and steal. 539 00:30:49,656 --> 00:30:51,032 Don't seek that stuff. 540 00:30:51,176 --> 00:30:52,860 Seek heavenly treasures. 541 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,768 He's not like, giving you a test, Jill. 542 00:30:55,864 --> 00:30:59,656 Like, hey, if you do that, if you don't try to go get the rich 543 00:30:59,688 --> 00:31:02,456 stuff, you'll get to get into heaven and then you get all the rich 544 00:31:02,488 --> 00:31:03,100 stuff. 545 00:31:04,270 --> 00:31:05,782 No, he's telling you. 546 00:31:05,966 --> 00:31:07,210 Yeah, partly. 547 00:31:08,190 --> 00:31:09,050 Anyways. 548 00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:13,990 He's saying, like, if you pursue wealth, it will destroy your 549 00:31:14,030 --> 00:31:14,650 soul. 550 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:17,846 Ross, hold on a minute. 551 00:31:17,958 --> 00:31:19,750 Are you saying it's bad to be wealthy? 552 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:21,250 See how quick we do it? 553 00:31:22,270 --> 00:31:23,490 We fight back. 554 00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:29,908 He's just telling you if your main obsession in life becomes building 555 00:31:29,964 --> 00:31:38,996 wealth and greed takes over your heart, it will destroy you utterly, 556 00:31:39,028 --> 00:31:40,000 destroy you. 557 00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:43,280 He's telling us how we're actually made to live. 558 00:31:44,540 --> 00:31:49,636 And this guy Simon is going to see it because he's humble and he's 559 00:31:49,668 --> 00:31:50,100 hungry. 560 00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:53,240 Second thing, he has a desire. 561 00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:56,750 You see his humility and his openness. 562 00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:59,706 He's been through a lot of things, but he thinks somebody else 563 00:31:59,738 --> 00:32:01,114 knows something more than me. 564 00:32:01,282 --> 00:32:03,002 But he also has desire. 565 00:32:03,146 --> 00:32:05,050 Jesus says, Matthew 5, 6. 566 00:32:05,170 --> 00:32:08,506 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for the kingdom of God, 567 00:32:08,538 --> 00:32:11,002 for they will be filled until they are satisfied or hunger for 568 00:32:11,026 --> 00:32:11,514 righteousness. 569 00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:12,190 Sorry. 570 00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:15,194 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for 571 00:32:15,202 --> 00:32:17,950 they will be filled until they're satisfied. 572 00:32:19,010 --> 00:32:19,850 You see that? 573 00:32:19,890 --> 00:32:20,794 Like these guys. 574 00:32:20,842 --> 00:32:21,914 How do I know that they're hungry? 575 00:32:21,962 --> 00:32:23,390 He's still willing to fish. 576 00:32:26,250 --> 00:32:32,386 Some of us in the room, some of us online have quit fishing because 577 00:32:32,458 --> 00:32:33,870 we've been through a long night. 578 00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:35,830 It's understandable. 579 00:32:37,210 --> 00:32:38,670 Faith has Been hard. 580 00:32:40,090 --> 00:32:44,386 Faithful people who maybe called themselves faithful were not 581 00:32:44,538 --> 00:32:45,950 so loving to us. 582 00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:48,830 Maybe a church let us down. 583 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:53,436 Whatever the case, maybe we've been fishing all night long in faith, 584 00:32:53,468 --> 00:32:56,876 and we woke up with nothing in our nets and our bellies are empty. 585 00:32:56,988 --> 00:32:58,988 And so we said, I'm done with fishing. 586 00:32:59,164 --> 00:33:00,560 It's understandable. 587 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:06,640 Jesus says, blessed are those who keep hungering. 588 00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:10,876 Don't let somebody else make you quit hungering. 589 00:33:10,908 --> 00:33:13,980 These guys keep fishing even though they've been through a long 590 00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:17,270 night, and look what happens. 591 00:33:19,610 --> 00:33:22,450 So they dropped the nets, and their catch was so huge that their 592 00:33:22,490 --> 00:33:23,670 nets were splitting. 593 00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:26,510 An eternal kind of life. 594 00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:32,818 Ross, are you saying that if I follow Jesus, he'll make me wealthy 595 00:33:32,834 --> 00:33:33,750 and healthy? 596 00:33:36,650 --> 00:33:38,786 Some people took verses like these and said, yep. 597 00:33:38,818 --> 00:33:39,710 See, there it is. 598 00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:42,480 Do you believe in Jesus? 599 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:45,820 He's gonna make your bank account go up, heal you of all your 600 00:33:45,860 --> 00:33:46,480 stuff. 601 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:47,580 It's called. 602 00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:49,160 Anyone know the name for that? 603 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:51,260 I hear it. 604 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:51,692 I hear it. 605 00:33:51,716 --> 00:33:52,572 Somebody's whispering it. 606 00:33:52,596 --> 00:33:53,740 You can be a little prouder about it. 607 00:33:53,780 --> 00:33:54,252 What's it called? 608 00:33:54,276 --> 00:33:55,148 Amanda? 609 00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:56,880 Prosperity Gospel. 610 00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:01,532 You know the guys on TV who are like, hey, if you chip in $70 611 00:34:01,636 --> 00:34:07,630 right now and sow your seed, God is gonna give you $7,000 in return. 612 00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:10,830 What? 613 00:34:15,770 --> 00:34:17,122 Maybe I should say this. 614 00:34:17,226 --> 00:34:19,190 Don't send them your money, okay? 615 00:34:21,930 --> 00:34:24,818 If I ever say that to you, you should leave. 616 00:34:24,914 --> 00:34:25,378 You should. 617 00:34:25,434 --> 00:34:30,642 You should, Ross. 618 00:34:30,706 --> 00:34:31,790 But it's right there. 619 00:34:33,970 --> 00:34:35,670 You'd miss the rest of the story. 620 00:34:37,570 --> 00:34:41,770 They're humble, they're hungry, they keep fishing. 621 00:34:41,850 --> 00:34:43,050 Don't quit fishing. 622 00:34:43,210 --> 00:34:44,870 Maybe you have good reason to. 623 00:34:45,410 --> 00:34:46,538 The church let you down. 624 00:34:46,594 --> 00:34:47,914 Faithful people let you down. 625 00:34:48,002 --> 00:34:49,274 You feel like you've been in a rut. 626 00:34:49,322 --> 00:34:50,282 You don't know who Jesus is. 627 00:34:50,306 --> 00:34:54,710 Keep fishing, keep being hungry, keep showing up. 628 00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:56,570 And these guys are willing. 629 00:34:56,650 --> 00:34:59,630 In aa, they say willingness is the key that opens the door. 630 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,576 They say, because you say so, I'll do it. 631 00:35:03,728 --> 00:35:04,940 That's willingness. 632 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,920 It's the willingness to practice something that doesn't make 633 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,780 sense yet. 634 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,584 Will you do that? 635 00:35:12,752 --> 00:35:13,128 No. 636 00:35:13,184 --> 00:35:15,016 Jesus, I need to understand what you mean first. 637 00:35:15,088 --> 00:35:19,176 I'll do it, but first, can you give me, like, an itinerary, instructions, 638 00:35:19,288 --> 00:35:21,540 how it's going to end up, what it's going to cost me? 639 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,232 These guys are willing to practice something that doesn't make 640 00:35:24,256 --> 00:35:24,760 sense yet. 641 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,820 Jim, are you willing? 642 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,200 Joanna, you willing to practice something that doesn't make 643 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:36,152 sense yet, but you have a clear conviction, like, Jesus is 644 00:35:36,176 --> 00:35:37,416 saying, I should do this? 645 00:35:37,568 --> 00:35:40,520 If you thought the Prosperity Gospel is what this verse is about, 646 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,180 you would miss the rest of the story. 647 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,840 First of all they're like, you guys, this stonemason is really good 648 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,640 fisherman, it turns out. 649 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,152 Good thing. 650 00:35:50,176 --> 00:35:51,540 We listen to him. 651 00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:57,000 And then Peter's like, oh, my gosh. 652 00:36:00,140 --> 00:36:01,428 He feels a little. 653 00:36:01,484 --> 00:36:02,900 I don't know how we should interpret this. 654 00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:04,052 That's not what the sermon is about today. 655 00:36:04,076 --> 00:36:09,000 But look, immediately he feels like, whoo, convicted. 656 00:36:09,980 --> 00:36:13,204 I wonder if he feels a little bit of the thing that Charles is 657 00:36:13,212 --> 00:36:13,380 saying. 658 00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:15,172 Maybe he starts to shrink for a minute. 659 00:36:15,316 --> 00:36:15,988 Why are you. 660 00:36:16,044 --> 00:36:16,628 Why am I. 661 00:36:16,684 --> 00:36:17,012 Whoa. 662 00:36:17,076 --> 00:36:18,148 Why are you messing with me? 663 00:36:18,204 --> 00:36:18,998 Why are you. 664 00:36:19,124 --> 00:36:20,450 Why do you care about me? 665 00:36:20,570 --> 00:36:22,178 I'm a worthless sinner. 666 00:36:22,354 --> 00:36:24,946 It may be a good thing we don't know. 667 00:36:25,018 --> 00:36:27,378 Maybe Peter has a right size conviction. 668 00:36:27,554 --> 00:36:32,258 Maybe it's like, man, When I'm in the presence of this radiant person 669 00:36:32,314 --> 00:36:35,954 that I now believe to be like something else, it's kind of shining 670 00:36:36,002 --> 00:36:37,570 a light on the way I think, and live. 671 00:36:37,610 --> 00:36:39,510 And it's a little bit uncomfortable. 672 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:43,890 I don't know what it is. 673 00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:48,160 But Simon Peter, this fellow is humble, hungry and willing. 674 00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:52,492 They were overcome with amazement. 675 00:36:52,556 --> 00:36:54,652 Remember, is eternal life quality or quantity? 676 00:36:54,716 --> 00:36:56,720 Yes, amazement. 677 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:01,532 If you're humble, hungry, and willing to seek Jesus, you will have 678 00:37:01,556 --> 00:37:03,084 amazement in your life. 679 00:37:03,252 --> 00:37:04,988 Will I stop noticing the bad things? 680 00:37:05,044 --> 00:37:06,120 I didn't say that. 681 00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:09,320 That's not what I said. 682 00:37:09,620 --> 00:37:11,280 But you will have amazement. 683 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,260 His partners are amazed, too. 684 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,704 But here. 685 00:37:16,792 --> 00:37:19,220 Here's where the prosperity gospel falls apart. 686 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,576 I'm going to believe in Jesus, and he's going to make me a rich 687 00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:23,024 fisherman. 688 00:37:23,072 --> 00:37:24,780 No, he's going to ask you to quit your job. 689 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,500 That's where the prosperity gospel breaks down. 690 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,448 Big catch. 691 00:37:32,624 --> 00:37:35,072 You got a vision of like, man, my investment account's going to 692 00:37:35,096 --> 00:37:36,020 skyrocket. 693 00:37:36,930 --> 00:37:37,818 This is. 694 00:37:37,954 --> 00:37:39,626 How am I going to figure this out? 695 00:37:39,778 --> 00:37:40,138 What? 696 00:37:40,194 --> 00:37:43,750 Jesus, you want me to leave my job? 697 00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:47,350 From now on, you'll be fishing for people. 698 00:37:47,650 --> 00:37:49,070 Come, be my apprentice. 699 00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:58,630 Lord, help me. 700 00:37:59,650 --> 00:38:01,350 I wish I could do this. 701 00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:04,868 Ross, is Jesus telling me to quit my job? 702 00:38:04,924 --> 00:38:05,840 I don't know. 703 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:11,652 Maybe that happened once here. 704 00:38:11,676 --> 00:38:13,876 By the way, someone said, hey, your sermon last week made me realize 705 00:38:13,908 --> 00:38:14,868 I needed to quit my job. 706 00:38:14,924 --> 00:38:16,840 I was like, geez, hold on a minute. 707 00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:20,360 Whoa. 708 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,020 I don't know the answer to that. 709 00:38:26,060 --> 00:38:27,896 The question that you have in your heart right now. 710 00:38:28,028 --> 00:38:29,340 But I do know this. 711 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,140 I know it because I've experienced it. 712 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,352 If we're humble, hungry, and willing to seek Jesus, there's a 713 00:38:40,376 --> 00:38:43,136 life that's going to enter into our midst like we've never experienced 714 00:38:43,168 --> 00:38:43,740 before. 715 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,408 Doesn't mean we won't see the hard stuff, but we'll start to believe 716 00:38:49,464 --> 00:38:52,816 we have this sort of victory over the hard stuff. 717 00:38:52,848 --> 00:38:53,660 In the end. 718 00:38:54,610 --> 00:38:56,230 I'm still afraid of death. 719 00:38:57,330 --> 00:38:58,154 Hi, I'm Ross. 720 00:38:58,202 --> 00:38:59,510 I'm still afraid of death. 721 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:02,794 But Jesus has helped me to confront the hard stuff, the dark 722 00:39:02,842 --> 00:39:04,570 stuff, and live in freedom and love. 723 00:39:04,610 --> 00:39:09,178 Anyhow, what else I have in here? 724 00:39:09,234 --> 00:39:10,298 No, we're not doing that. 725 00:39:10,354 --> 00:39:12,778 Because it's messed up and I was having a good run. 726 00:39:12,914 --> 00:39:15,030 Go back, act like I didn't see that. 727 00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:16,474 All right, finally. 728 00:39:16,602 --> 00:39:17,498 That's it for me. 729 00:39:17,554 --> 00:39:18,950 What's astern in you? 730 00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:26,480 Sorry, that was an abrupt segue to the end. 731 00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:32,960 What's this stirring you? 732 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,436 I love Simon Peter. 733 00:39:36,628 --> 00:39:37,960 He's my hero. 734 00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:50,286 Maybe focus more on the why for the truth. 735 00:39:50,318 --> 00:39:50,910 You know what I mean? 736 00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:53,850 Like, don't worry so much about how it's going to happen. 737 00:39:56,070 --> 00:40:03,374 Yeah, maybe not be so obsessed with the how can I add to it, Christy? 738 00:40:03,422 --> 00:40:05,690 Maybe get a little bit more trusting in the who. 739 00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:13,950 Pursue trust essential one, continuous companionship with Jesus. 740 00:40:15,170 --> 00:40:17,910 Cultivate a trusting relationship with him. 741 00:40:18,610 --> 00:40:21,082 When you feel an urge to do something, don't be like, yeah, but 742 00:40:21,106 --> 00:40:22,390 how's it going to work out? 743 00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:27,562 Just enough vision for just the next step. 744 00:40:27,586 --> 00:40:27,882 What else? 745 00:40:27,906 --> 00:40:29,150 What's turning to you, Charles? 746 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:39,520 Who the hell do you think you are? 747 00:40:40,060 --> 00:40:41,600 That's another way to say it. 748 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:44,840 But his attitude. 749 00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:48,900 There was something, I guess, that they trusted about Jesus. 750 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:53,140 There was something about his spirit or his teaching authority, 751 00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:58,800 whatever, that put them in a position to kind of just trust him. 752 00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:02,080 Like, embodied trust that. 753 00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:09,710 I forgot to mention this. 754 00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:12,290 It was kind of one of the most important parts of the message. 755 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:13,410 Dang. 756 00:41:15,110 --> 00:41:18,450 All right, this will take 30 seconds, I promise. 757 00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:20,094 So I'm going to start counting. 758 00:41:20,142 --> 00:41:21,250 Put me on a clock. 759 00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:23,130 I'll show you. 760 00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:27,776 Jesus himself carried himself with that HHW mindset. 761 00:41:27,878 --> 00:41:29,400 Matthew 11:29. 762 00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:31,500 Put my yoke and learn from me. 763 00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:33,040 I'm gentle and humble. 764 00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:34,988 You'll find rest for yourselves. 765 00:41:35,084 --> 00:41:37,100 Jesus carried himself with this. 766 00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:40,160 There's something about the minute you were in Jesus's presence, 767 00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:44,204 you were like, this guy is trustworthy in a really different 768 00:41:44,292 --> 00:41:44,924 way. 769 00:41:45,092 --> 00:41:50,812 Which makes our experience of kind of betrayals of trust in the 770 00:41:50,836 --> 00:41:53,612 church so disheartening because Jesus was such a supremely 771 00:41:53,676 --> 00:41:54,440 trustworthy person. 772 00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:55,100 Person. 773 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:56,256 What else? 774 00:41:56,288 --> 00:42:06,944 What's stirring in you with this humble, hungry, willing discipleship, 775 00:42:06,992 --> 00:42:13,220 essential Joey. 776 00:42:19,730 --> 00:42:20,590 Situation? 777 00:42:23,650 --> 00:42:24,510 Yes. 778 00:42:41,650 --> 00:42:42,410 Yep. 779 00:42:42,570 --> 00:42:44,310 We talked about this two weeks ago. 780 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:49,636 Part of that humble, hungry, willing mindset is loving the spiritual 781 00:42:49,668 --> 00:42:50,920 art of discernment. 782 00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:56,756 Like, you start to develop the habit of, like, looking and listening 783 00:42:56,788 --> 00:42:59,120 for God's guidance before you lead to action. 784 00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,680 Did I say that we have a humility deficit. 785 00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:07,760 We have a discernment deficit too. 786 00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:10,960 A lot of people leap into action. 787 00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:14,254 A lot of people not honoring this maxim. 788 00:43:14,302 --> 00:43:17,614 Don't just do something, stand there, you know, a little more of 789 00:43:17,622 --> 00:43:17,838 that. 790 00:43:17,894 --> 00:43:18,286 What else? 791 00:43:18,318 --> 00:43:19,450 What's stern in you? 792 00:43:24,070 --> 00:43:30,330 I think we worry a lot about what we want, what we think we need, 793 00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:33,850 making sure we keep going after it. 794 00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:44,682 Yeah, yeah. 795 00:43:44,746 --> 00:43:47,594 So maybe we get stuck in a scarcity mindset. 796 00:43:47,642 --> 00:43:50,710 Like if I don't go hustle and do these things and I'll be left. 797 00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:52,042 And there's a bit of that. 798 00:43:52,066 --> 00:43:52,458 That's true. 799 00:43:52,474 --> 00:43:55,370 Like we have a lot of our neighbors, some people in the room 800 00:43:55,410 --> 00:43:59,722 like how they're hustling every week to make ends meet. 801 00:43:59,826 --> 00:44:00,470 Right. 802 00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:02,328 So. 803 00:44:02,474 --> 00:44:05,740 But we can get kind of stuck in a scarcity mindset, like everything 804 00:44:05,780 --> 00:44:09,836 is scarce, rather than trusting in God's abundance and provision. 805 00:44:09,948 --> 00:44:11,840 I saw a hand somewhere, Adam. 806 00:44:18,820 --> 00:44:27,954 It takes a bit of a reset to be told, like the. 807 00:44:28,012 --> 00:44:29,330 Your nest back in. 808 00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:33,730 It takes a bit of a reset to. 809 00:44:35,790 --> 00:44:42,374 I think we come to the notion of eternal life with a presupposition 810 00:44:42,422 --> 00:44:47,734 of what that looks like and what it means, and that's what we're 811 00:44:47,782 --> 00:44:48,770 looking for. 812 00:44:49,950 --> 00:44:55,264 And it's hard to back off of that and really make yourself open 813 00:44:55,352 --> 00:44:59,232 to how does, how does the Holy Spirit want to form that vision in 814 00:44:59,256 --> 00:45:00,060 my life? 815 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,660 And. 816 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,760 So that's where I think we project a lot of our presupposition 817 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,260 onto these things. 818 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,328 Kind of come to it thinking we know what it means or what it looks 819 00:45:13,344 --> 00:45:16,608 like because of what we know, because of our experience. 820 00:45:16,744 --> 00:45:19,460 And I think that can be a lot of shame. 821 00:45:24,090 --> 00:45:24,950 Yep. 822 00:45:25,530 --> 00:45:27,330 That's what discernment is about too. 823 00:45:27,370 --> 00:45:30,450 Like is discernment helps us be aware of our own assumptions and 824 00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:31,510 expectations. 825 00:45:32,330 --> 00:45:33,122 That's hard. 826 00:45:33,226 --> 00:45:33,922 Right? 827 00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:36,178 You always hear me quote this from aa. 828 00:45:36,274 --> 00:45:38,630 Expectations are pre planned resentments. 829 00:45:39,370 --> 00:45:41,150 Well, that works with God too. 830 00:45:42,010 --> 00:45:42,750 Right. 831 00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:48,462 So I'll have Brandon Adam join me up here while we take maybe one 832 00:45:48,486 --> 00:45:49,102 more. 833 00:45:49,286 --> 00:45:53,534 Ooh, hey, Joanne, will you go get the kids, please? 834 00:45:53,622 --> 00:45:54,062 Thank you. 835 00:45:54,086 --> 00:45:56,370 We need them in here for this closing. 836 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:59,742 They're gonna help us get a little bit more comfortable with 837 00:45:59,766 --> 00:46:00,462 being silly. 838 00:46:00,526 --> 00:46:02,690 Some of you are so scared of being silly. 839 00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:05,410 What else, Debbie? 840 00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:12,710 We'll take yours too, Andy, in a minute. 841 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,872 It makes you think about how we. 842 00:46:19,056 --> 00:46:20,620 How our judges. 843 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,664 Yeah, yeah. 844 00:46:36,712 --> 00:46:39,932 Debbie's just noting that part about like, if we are humble and 845 00:46:39,956 --> 00:46:43,260 hungry, willing to seek Jesus, we're going to start getting this 846 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:47,084 eternal kind of life and we're going to want it for everyone too. 847 00:46:47,252 --> 00:46:48,940 That's how you'll know the difference. 848 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:49,868 Which is what? 849 00:46:49,924 --> 00:46:51,036 They don't need to be quiet. 850 00:46:51,148 --> 00:46:51,948 Bring them on in. 851 00:46:52,004 --> 00:46:52,460 They're good. 852 00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:57,040 Michael, we need some of that rowdiness here in a minute. 853 00:46:58,900 --> 00:46:59,916 Absolutely. 854 00:47:00,028 --> 00:47:04,172 Like, one of the things that I got used to in the church, I'm not 855 00:47:04,196 --> 00:47:07,470 saying everybody, but in some of my upbringing, I was around some 856 00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:11,422 Christians who were glad that they had this thing, and they were, 857 00:47:11,446 --> 00:47:13,150 like, dancing on the grave of other people. 858 00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:15,006 Like, man, look at that lowlife over there. 859 00:47:15,078 --> 00:47:15,662 So wicked. 860 00:47:15,726 --> 00:47:16,382 Whatever. 861 00:47:16,526 --> 00:47:18,010 Good thing I have it. 862 00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:20,926 Andy, do you have something in the back? 863 00:47:20,998 --> 00:47:35,592 I know you're bombarded now with kids, but yes, if you get the 864 00:47:35,616 --> 00:47:37,976 nudge or the push, you are the right person for the job. 865 00:47:38,128 --> 00:47:38,840 Yeah. 866 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,840 There's an old saying, Jesus doesn't call the qualified. 867 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,424 He qualifies the called. 868 00:47:44,592 --> 00:47:45,752 Yeah, right. 869 00:47:45,856 --> 00:47:46,200 All right. 870 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,312 Hey, stand up with us, if you will, please. 871 00:47:48,416 --> 00:47:50,952 Now, listen, you can sit there like a bump on a long during this 872 00:47:50,976 --> 00:47:52,140 song, that's fine. 873 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,340 If you're an introvert and you're like, I ain't doing it, Ross. 874 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,992 I ain't doing it. 875 00:47:58,176 --> 00:48:00,180 Just playing Peace like a river again. 876 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,220 At the very least, just sing it with us. 877 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,700 Iva, where's my Iva? 878 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,440 Iva, babe, get into it. 879 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:08,856 All right? 880 00:48:08,928 --> 00:48:10,040 Help the people clap. 881 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,660 Do whatever you want to do, babe. 882 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,632 Kinsley, you can come on up if you want. 883 00:48:14,816 --> 00:48:17,704 Yep, we're gonna sing. 884 00:48:17,872 --> 00:48:21,128 We're not singing this because it's true yet. 885 00:48:21,264 --> 00:48:22,072 Do you hear what I said? 886 00:48:22,096 --> 00:48:23,914 We're not singing this because it's true yet. 887 00:48:24,072 --> 00:48:26,486 But we believe if we're humble, hungry and willing to seek 888 00:48:26,518 --> 00:48:29,062 Jesus, he will unearth in us. 889 00:48:29,166 --> 00:48:32,730 Peace like a river, Joy like a fountain Love for my Savior. 890 00:48:37,870 --> 00:48:42,342 Thank you for participating in the conversation happening at Heaven 891 00:48:42,406 --> 00:48:43,766 Earth Church. 892 00:48:43,958 --> 00:48:49,490 Your next opportunity to do so live is this Sunday morning, 9:30am 893 00:48:50,290 --> 00:48:54,474 Eastern Time, either at the main campus at 3:09 East Main in 894 00:48:54,482 --> 00:48:59,146 Whiteland, Indiana, or online at YouTube Live. 895 00:48:59,298 --> 00:49:04,430 That's@YouTube.com heavenerthchurch. 896 00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:11,562 The audio podcast is always available at Apple Podcast and on 897 00:49:11,666 --> 00:49:12,538 Spotify. 898 00:49:12,714 --> 00:49:17,272 You can help others find out about the Heaven Earth Church podcast 899 00:49:17,416 --> 00:49:22,216 by going to Apple Podcasts and or Spotify and leaving a five star 900 00:49:22,288 --> 00:49:24,100 rating and your review. 901 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,780 Instructions on how to do just that and links are in the show notes. 902 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,900 You can always find out more by going to the church website heavenearthchurch.org. 903 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,632 We want to thank you for spending time with us today. 904 00:49:42,736 --> 00:49:46,254 My name is Ross Stackhouse, the pastor to Heaven Earth Church. 905 00:49:46,432 --> 00:49:48,994 And you may think out there that your story is over. 906 00:49:49,082 --> 00:49:53,042 But in fact, your faith story may just be beginning. 907 00:49:53,186 --> 00:49:55,906 If you want more information about our church or you're interested 908 00:49:55,938 --> 00:50:00,050 in the next step, you can go to heavenearthchurch.org otherwise 909 00:50:00,130 --> 00:50:03,186 we look forward to being with you next time at the Heaven Earth 910 00:50:03,218 --> 00:50:03,970 Church Podcast.