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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop with the

magic of movies.

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Today we're discussing the 2002 documentary, The Freshest Kids, the history of the B-Boy.

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We are three old heads who put their old heads together to vibe on these films for you.

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I'm Dyno Wright, podcaster, filmmaker, longtime hip hop fan, and I must give a shout out

to my brother, Jey Prime, a real and true B-Boy.

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Yeah, Jey Prime.

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Yes, sir.

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I'm JB, 80s and 90s, nostalgia junkie, longtime hip hop fan.

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And man, I was such a fan of the sitcom, What's Happening, featuring Fred 'Rerun' Berry,

who was featured in this documentary.

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Nice, nice.

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I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan, and I wish that we were never convinced in my

neighborhood that B-Boying was played out.

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And they actually talk a little bit about this in the documentary, but one of my favorite

past times to this day is sitting around and watching B-Boy battles.

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In this episode we'll answer the question, how important is breakin' to hip hop culture?

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And please hit that subscribe button down below so you won't miss an episode.

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The Freshest Kids explores the history and evolution of b-boying, also known as breakin

from its roots in the Bronx to its international explosion.

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Archival footage of key figures in the b-boy scene and many hip-hop luminaries dot this

fascinating journey about the enormous impact of breakin on society.

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Here are five things you need to know about the freshest kids.

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Number one, a Bronx tale.

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Born at DJ Kool Herc's house parties in early 70s, this wasn't about manufactured culture.

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It was straight from the streets.

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Block parties, floors, pure creativity.

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Number two, Hollywood used and lost.

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From the South Bronx in the 70s to media craze in 1980s when they were featured in movies

from Wild Style to Flashdance, but when the cameras left,

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the real culture returned underground.

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Number three, the system fought back.

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The freshest kids touches on conflicts, arrests and unrest between B-boys and authorities,

especially before breakin turned mainstream and international.

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Number four, a cast of thousands.

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You might lose count of the many, many hip hop legends, both dancers and rappers seen in

this film.

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And number five, dance was never just dance.

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It was always about expression over entertainment and resistance over recognition.

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Breakin' gave kids power when everything else tried to take it away.

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It was instrumental in propelling hip-hop to international heights.

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Right on.

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So Freshest Kids, this is an amazing documentary.

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One of those ones where we look back and like, how have I not seen this yet?

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If you really want the whole lineage of breakin and b-boying, this is where you should

begin, honestly.

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So first takeaway, we would talk about the Bronx.

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So much of the hip hop journey, as we've discussed many times, starts there in the South

Bronx.

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DJ Kool Herc with his house parties, breaking over those break beats.

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Et cetera.

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And you see all the, you see the five elements emerge from the culture.

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Not for four elements, but they also talk about the fifth one, you know, like storytelling

as well.

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So, but yeah.

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one of the quotes that stuck with me, was, Mos Def or Yasiin Bey saying that this culture

had always been challenged and they had the notion of being like lower class and you know,

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Not as intellectual or impactful, yet they go and create the subculture that evolves into

a multi-billion dollar industry.

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And that's a theme we talk about quite a bit.

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And I just love that aspect of it.

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And we were just chatting before DJ Kool Herc, the iconic address is 1520 Sedgwick Ave.

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And we realized KRS One who's featured quite a bit in this documentary grew up on 1600

Sedgwick.

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And it was like legends, right?

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Next to each other.

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And, yeah, you know, from the Bronx emerges what was pretty much regionalized goes

international.

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Yeah.

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And Boogie, what do you take away from the, that early aspect of breaking how it, you

know, in seventies and how it takes off from the Bronx.

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Yeah, so I really appreciate this documentary because it gave us the inside perspective.

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Like you see DJ Kool Hercs in his own words describing how it all started.

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And he said, you know, he started doing these parties in the rec room in the building.

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And he noticed that, you whenever he was playing music, the crowd would start waiting for

that break when all the instruments in the song would stop.

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and you would just hear the beat going.

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And then they would all just start dancing to that part.

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So he said, you know, after noticing that, said, all right, you know what, I'm going to

buy a couple of records.

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So he would buy duplicates.

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And he said, I'm going to start looping that break by playing that song over, that part of

the song over and over.

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he actually gave it a name called the Merry-Go Round.

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And he said, once he started doing that, he would just keep that break going and going and

going.

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And it would give the crowd a chance to keep dancing.

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He said, now,

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you know, different crews would be at these parties or whatever.

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And then the dancers would start creating their own signature moves to these breaks.

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And he said, okay.

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So it was, you know, dancing on that break, which became known as the B-Boy.

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And I was like, wow, that's a really cool breakdown.

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Because I mean, remember, as far as I remember, was there already.

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wasn't there at the beginning.

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So it was just something that I saw and was like, oh, this is pretty cool.

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But it was kind of good to hear how he actually got the records and had the break and how

the crowd actually started responding to that break.

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And that was real good.

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It was real cool.

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mean, just hearing the different perspectives of some of the respective crews that were

around at the time, different influential breakers, slash B-boys.

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I always knew Crazy Legs.

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Crazy Legs has always been one of my favorite B-boys from the Rock Steady Crew.

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But to hear about him talking about the guy that influenced him, B-boy named Spy I said, I

had never heard of Spy before.

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So that was pretty cool.

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I'll be like, right, know, like to this day, even though he's not necessarily performing,

Crazy Legs is still an influential person in the hip hop community.

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He's always at events.

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He's always pushing the culture forward.

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He's got merch.

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He's at different events.

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He's speaking engagements.

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He's always...

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offered that political commentary the root of hip hop.

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to hear him talk about somebody that influenced him was pretty cool.

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And he co-produced this film,

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Yeah, I caught that.

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I was like wow.

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The other aspect, like you said, Spy was legendary.

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I had never heard of him.

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I learned about so many of these other B-boys that deserve so much more praise because

they were pioneers that don't really get their due.

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Again, Crazy Legs is one that most of us have heard of if you're in tune with the history

of breakdancing, but Ken Swift, Frosty Freeze, Mr.

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Freeze, Spy, Batch, all these guys had their own styles and they influenced

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so many people throughout the lineage and then as it becomes mainstream, people were

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They laid the foundation.

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Yeah, there's another aspect that I did appreciate as well.

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The Latin recognition.

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And that's one thing that I always, I see it all the time on social media.

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There's always a debate, you know, from those who know from the Latin community saying,

you know, we were there in the beginning.

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And then those who don't know, telling them that they weren't, you know, invalidating them

in the culture.

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And this documentary actually does a good job of putting

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putting Latin Americans out in the front as well because they were there.

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We're all in the same community growing up.

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Even, you know, there were white B-boys as well and they featured in the documentary You

see them spinning and doing the same moves and performing just like everyone else.

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It's like, it was basically rooted in the culture and for people who were oppressed, who

were poor, underprivileged, no matter what color you were, if you lived in a neighborhood,

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you you participated in the culture and you helped,

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Nurturing started up.

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I like it and I guess your brother Jey Prime would have this sense too.

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It's kind of like a code of conduct among b-boys it seems like if you don't if you could

just Go all out, but not lose your cool because it gets intense.

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It's like then you're you're a real b-boy like you can you can hang if you Become unhinged

You know that it's like man.

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This is not for you.

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You know there's this kind of like code of conduct Which which I thought was neat that

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Yeah, that stems from that transition from the gangs into actual crews and that peace

treaty that we've seen in an earlier documentary that we watched not too long ago.

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It's like, it's all about keeping the peace and just performing, doing the best we can and

then walking away.

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It's like a fraternity or brotherhood of mutual respect.

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organizes a lot of b-boy battles and like two versus two type battles and boy, if you

didn't know, you'd think that they're about to come to blows.

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But no, this is just how it is.

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It's just very intense.

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Goes right to the line and then they dap each other up afterwards.

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And Jey Prime's come out with us on a few occasions.

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He also came out to Princeton with us.

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Part of the collective, for sure.

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backtracking a little bit.

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I've also been a fan of the New York City Breakers, but I remember them as the New York

City Breakers.

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and this kind of touched on how they actually got their beginning and which I found pretty interesting.

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They were actually the Floor Masters.

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I was like, Oh, okay.

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Cause I kept seeing a floor master.

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like, I never heard of the floor masters.

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I'm like, ah, they became the New York City Breakers.

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They gave them a nice polished up name and put them out in the limelight.

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Floor Master sounds like a carpet company to me.

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I think they, one of those things we get in the Val Pak coupons and it's like floor.

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Oh man.

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I like, the what?

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probably a better name, New York City Breakers, than Floor Masters.

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That's awesome.

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the clip of...

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Did you see the clip of Grand Mixer DXT breakin?

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Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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like, shoot, so he got footwork.

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Multitalented.

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Like you said, last episode always comes back to folks that we, you we had encountered and we met, we met Grand mixer, DXT long and grand master Caz was in this as well.

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Yeah, the co- Oh yeah, the co- Yeah, the few of them with the Cold Crush brothers over in

it, yeah.

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couple of the other Cold Crush brothers also.

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We move on to the next.

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So South Bronx is the origin story.

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And then it picks up a lot of steam in the late 70s, maybe like 77, 78.

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But in the media craze, it hit a snag though in terms of disco's popularity.

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Mm-hmm.

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like the comment where these guys were like, they're going all out and they're sweating.

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It's like, well, how are you going to pick up the ladies when you're just like all

breaking and disjointed and battling each other?

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And then you get these suave, you know, leisure suits or whatever, the afros and the bell bottoms and the disco where you can actually, you know, get close to the ladies.

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And then it's like, all right, nobody wants to see us breakdancing anymore.

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And that kind of really erased some of

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the momentum that they had.

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um But then Hollywood picked up on it, know, breaking was kind of went underground, movies like Wild Style and Flashdance and.

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help bring it to the mainstream.

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Yeah, I think it was like little sparks here and there, know, and a club promoters would have the guys, some of the guys performing in the clubs and that would just, know, kept it

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at a, it was like simmering.

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It just kept it simmering long enough for Hollywood to pick up on it and mainstream media

to really pick up on it.

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When they started having public battles like that battle at Lincoln Center

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battles that they had Negril nightclub.

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And yeah, that kind of it simmering long enough for Hollywood to pick up on it.

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But a lot of guys, I saw they were mentioning that even with the West Coast guys, once

they saw that flash dance clip, they were like, oh, and that's when they all started kind

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of trying to pick it up on it.

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But the West Coast had their own flavor going on over there.

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You know, that was cool that they actually gave a shout out to the West and showed the

difference between West Coast B-boying and East Coast B-boying.

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I mean, granted now, with social media and everything being so accessible, there's like a

big merger between the two.

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So you see guys on the East Coast popping and locking.

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You see guys on the West Coast doing the footwork and

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know, aerial moves that, you know, that the East was done for now.

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Now they're actually, I mean, even internationally, it's crazy.

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But, but yeah, man, Hollywood picked up on it and ran with it.

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Yeah, Breakin Breakin 2: the wrath of Khan.

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I couldn't resist.

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Yeah, electric boogaloo for the fans who.

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who aren't familiar, we bust on Breakin 2 and we give it different sequel names, sometimes

the Secret of the Ooze or the Wrath of Khan.

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I didn't realize how impactful that scene in flash dance was featured the New York City Breakers and Crazy legs and Ken Swift and I think it was frosty freeze a few others and

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they showed when the premiere came out and the fans whoever was in that preview audience, you know, they went they went nuts over that scene and I thought the funny part was

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Jennifer Beals really didn't want to do anything.

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She wanted no part of these guys, like when they were doing some press photos or anything

like that.

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And then after she sees the reaction, she's like, yeah, let's have some photos.

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take some photos, you know?

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Yeah.

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She said dis us, now she wants to kiss us.

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sad in more ways than one.

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pop up a few years ago in the Mandalorian series on Disney+.

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Yeah, I was like, that's Jennifer Beals.

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Yeah, she did.

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Yeah, she aged well.

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But it's a good point you make about Flashdance being as influential as it was.

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Even I didn't realize that and I looked it up.

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I mapped this out.

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Flashdance comes out in April of 83.

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Wildstyle is not until November of 83.

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And then Beat Street wasn't out until the next year.

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So in the timeline, it actually is pretty early.

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Yeah, wow.

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Yeah, and it's crazy because I remember watching it.

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And I've seen that scene so many times and like just on social media clips and even the numerous times I've watched Flash Dance I really like Flash Dance I love Jennifer Beals.

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I watch the movie all the time just because of her.

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But that scene, I've seen that scene so many times.

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And I think it maybe like, I was telling you guys before we started recording, it was either like the end of last year or the beginning or early this year, I was watching it.

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and all of a sudden the light bulb went off and I recognized them.

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Oh my God, that's them, that's them.

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All these years I never realized it was them until like fairly recently.

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Props to the documentary.

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So another turning point for the mass popularity of breakin was the 1984 Summer Olympics.

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So that ties in, you're following the timeline you just mentioned Dyno Wright The world

sees breakin on one of the stages, international stage.

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I see that Ronald Reagan, the president at the time, was enjoying seeing these dancers and kind of laughing.

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And when you see the...

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You're a leader of the U S at that point.

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And you're like, there's something to this that has that staying power.

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but just to go back, love that.

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Like you said about the West coast, you know, popping strutting, locking.

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I have to quote a Fred Berry rerun, the late great Fred Berry.

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said, you know, popping was like, you know, locking plus the robot.

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You he kind of like broke it down into like a formula.

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like, oh my God.

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Yeah.

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That was great.

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That was great because you don't realize, yeah, a lot of nuance to that.

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That was great.

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and I had another, I had a mind blowing moment.

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The Radiotron was an actual club.

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The Radiotron was featured in Breakin and Breakin 2 and it was a real club.

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I did not know that.

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I thought it was just for the movie.

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Yeah.

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That's wild.

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Yeah.

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For me, that's not in this film, but when I became really aware of breakdancing was the 1984 Grammys, and this is the performance of Herbie Hancock, Rockit, and so the androids

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are the breakdancers.

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And I was, what, nine years old?

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I was like, whoa, what is that?

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What are they doing?

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So yeah.

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Quite formative at that time in your life.

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Oof, you see something like that.

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Blows your mind.

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I still bring up the Herbie Hancock video once in a while on YouTube with those legs going

back and forth.

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I remember showing my son that as a kid and it just blows your mind.

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It was so far ahead of its time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was just so creative.

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yeah, that song, that video and that song was just like crazy.

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Yeah, for sure.

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But, as we said, there's the, you said simmering and there's fits and starts with breaking

and the government ends up coming down.

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is one of our takeaways about the system fighting back.

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Breaking got a little bit powerful in terms of large gatherings.

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And then as the government, U S government's prone to do things get a little bit loud and

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they started actively shutting down spaces where hip hop, you know, well, hip hop elements

and breaking lived, which.

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is thematic of a lot of things we see today as well.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah currently

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Yeah, so there's conflicts, arrests, unrest, et cetera.

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And you see scenes with folks in riot gear in LA.

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So look what's going on today, protests and.

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Yeah, even back then, it's the form of expression here and the authorities didn't want to

see that.

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So they started shutting it down.

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And that really put a damper on the momentum again.

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But as hip hop culture is known to do, it survives and thrives and takes on new forms and elements.

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And it kind of just goes underground with the breaking.

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you know, then you have these other elements picking up the slack.

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Yep.

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so there was those scenes there where you have the cops, you know, arresting folks and everything, but then you have the break dancers getting out there and doing their thing.

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but, um, yeah,

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government crackdowns.

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The cops are standing full, you know, standing at attention in riot gear, the guys just egging them on.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's almost like instead of a sit-in, it's like a spin-in.

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Spin-in.

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that's cool.

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Another great element of this, and this is one of our other takeaways, it's like a cast of

thousands.

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There were so many hip hop legends, both dancers and rappers in this film.

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I was saying before we started here, some of my most favorite people were in this film.

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this documentary, know, Qtip, Phife, we love Tribe Called Quest, Rakim was in this, as I mentioned, Fred Berry rerun, KRS-ONE, Yasiin Bey I'm missing a few, but yeah, I'm sure MC

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Serch Redman.

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So many, so many.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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And then the actual B-boy crews, like, there was so many of them, I couldn't even, I was trying to keep up with them, but they were just popping up, I'm like, oh my God.

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Like, you know, Rocksteady Crew, Zulu Kings, South Soul Crew, Crazy Commanders, New York City Breakers, Bronx Boys, you know, and that's just the few that I could pick up on.

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There was like, and then there were others from the West Coast that I was, they were popping up too quick, I couldn't even keep up.

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Oh, Electric Boogaloo, Pony Express.

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Shake City Rockers, Air Force crew, those are some of the West Coast crews that they

mentioned.

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This is chock full of authenticity.

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Mm-hmm.

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I think it gives a lot more credibility to have those hip hop legends in it from both

coasts.

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Yep.

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And as we hit upon the dance wasn't just for the sake of dance.

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It's a form of expression, entertainment, resistance, giving these kids that creative

outlet and power when there's a lot of oppression going on and that spirit helped propel

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hip hop to international heights.

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So that's the underdog story that hip hop

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is and breaking is a huge piece of that.

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Sure.

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Yeah, yeah.

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There were a couple of quotes that I caught in the beginning.

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couldn't, I didn't see who said it, but it said one was, B-Boying is the ultimate body

manifestation of hip hop.

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And I was like, yeah, yeah.

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And then there was another one that said, it's not a trend, it's a legitimate art form,

which we see now because, I mean, just last year they put it into the Olympics.

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I mean, granted, it's not in the upcoming one, but.

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Who knows it might pop back up again in a revamped format.

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go, don't say Ray Gun.

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I had to go.

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the king of robot

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name before you were supposed to say!

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I'm just bustin.

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We needed it.

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Man.

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Put a stain on put a stain on breaking but.

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But mentioning that, the one thing that I would have liked to have seen more was the

B-Girl part of Breaking.

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There wasn't a lot of it in there.

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There were some, but not a lot.

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There's probably a whole documentaries worth of stuff just on that.

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it would be cool to do a part two of this.

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What's QD3 do up to these days?

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You

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You like the competition aspect is tremendous.

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You know, the battling and parallel with the rap battles we've seen and then, you know,

films like Eight Mile and Bodied and, you know, and we saw You Got Served and that type of

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competition is, you know, we're a society that loves competition.

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That's why we love sports so much.

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to have that crew and rallying cry and that's what they probably

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fuels Jey Prime and his crew is who's going to win this thing, know, we're in this

together and they got that sense of pride.

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It's great to see.

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Yeah.

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It's funny, I was just looking at my notes and there was one quote that I got, one part

that I, the crazy legs was talking.

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He said in the beginning when they first were going out and they were traveling to battle crews he compared it to martial arts films.

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He's like, I heard your style was good, but mine is better.

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And I started cracking up because I'm like, oh my God.

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I love that, yeah.

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But, yeah, it's great one.

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But I'm glad you brought that up, because speaking of Kung Fu, talks about the Kung Fu

influence on breakin.

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then we talk, know, Dyno Wright was just at the Wu-Tang concert.

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We talked on, you know, the documentary of Mics and Men, how they're a huge influence from

Kung Fu and Shaolin.

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But there's also the gymnastics element as well.

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You know, some of these guys, with the way they're moving their arms and flipping around,

like that's...

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That's what you see on like a pommel horse or some floor routines.

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And like they're so muscular and so talented.

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mean, like you said, physical manifestation of hip hop and martial arts.

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And the funny, quote was great too.

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I almost wanted to be where the subtitles don't match.

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Your style is good.

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Yeah, yeah, it was a good acknowledgement that hip-hop didn't come from nowhere.

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I mean, it did come from gymnastics and kung fu movies and capoeira and Lindy hops and

they have great footage of Sammy Davis just Going crazy on the floor.

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I like whoa That's how it was

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Yep.

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For real, Sammy Davis for real was an OG B-boy if you think about it and you see him

breaking and some those earlier guys.

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And the Nicholas Brothers, too, the Nicholas Brothers are phenomenal dancers.

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It's like, wow.

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Yeah, so there's a whole lineage still.

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I mean, we'll get into rating, but this is a must see if you are into breakin and b-boy

culture and how did it get from its origins to now?

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And like I said, we say it originated in the Bronx, but as you see actors, know, there's roots way before that, but when it become more of a cultural phenomenon, that's where you.

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You see it there in the Bronx for sure.

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This was a must see.

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The archival footage was phenomenal and just the commentary and it was so cohesive.

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can clearly follow it along as it was explaining how everything tied together.

375

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I know probably made you want to get up and relive your breaking days, right?

376

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Man, I remember I used to have the box in front of the house.

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Anytime my parents bought a major appliance or some furniture, that box was in front of

the house with the radio.

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Yes.

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I mean, I never really took off with it, but I tried.

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Gangsta rap came through and shut it down.

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So nobody in the hood.

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Everybody stopped dancing.

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It's like, oh man.

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And I remember I got older and I was like, wait a minute.

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It never went away.

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Why did they tell us that it was corny?

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And then meanwhile, they were doing it all over the world.

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I had no idea.

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And then all of sudden, my eyes opened up and I started seeing all these clips.

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And I'm like, oh man, I never should have stopped.

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Yeah, when it's a Red Bull BC One season, like, the social media feed blows up.

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It's great.

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my God, yes.

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And then all of the movies that popped out, like even the cheesiest ones have great

dancers in them.

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Like the acting is horrible, but they can dance like nothing.

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It's like, man, who knows?

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I could have popped up at one of those movies or something.

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Thank

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I think most of Gen X has tried it in some form or fashion.

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Not as bold, even if it's just in your home or in the shower or bathroom, you're trying to

do even some basic pop and lock or get on the floor and try to do a basic spin.

401

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I had one pair of black parachute pants with crazy amount of zippers.

402

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Yes.

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just felt good and it was slick.

404

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You know, I could have felt like I could do a couple of things, but I was never bold enough to embarrass myself like that.

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I didn't have them.

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I don't have much rhythm.

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So I, I admit it and know my limitations, but it was fun.

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It was just so much fun.

409

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That's funny, they kind of brought me back to that little Paulie Shore anecdote he was

talking about.

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All of the Samoans were at his house trying to teach him how to break his Mom's like What

is everybody doing over here?

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They're teaching me how to break dance.

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Yeah, the Paulie Shore stuff was funny.

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He had some ridiculous raunchy quotes as well.

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Yeah, you gotta go watch and see that.

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Yeah.

416

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Boogie, did you have the Alfonso Ribiero breakdance thing?

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No.

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No.

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No.

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I remember it though.

421

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I totally remember it.

422

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Nah, I I was like nah.

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be a whole documentary about that.

424

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I need the oral history of that particular VHS tape.

425

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Seriously, seriously, you went from a tap dance kid to doing b-boy breaking videos to

dancing with the stars.

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the stars to the fresh prince of Bel Air, the dancing with the stars.

427

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was like, how the heck did he get on Dance with the Stars?

428

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He could actually dance already!

429

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He's no joke, man.

430

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He's got the moves.

431

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Carlton doesn't just have the Tom Jones moves.

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He's got the B-boy moves.

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uh Legendary.

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Legendary.

435

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You know, it's funny that you think about that the VHS I'm thinking to the movie Napoleon

Dynamite.

436

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I don't know if you guys have seen that when he goes to that discount store, he gets dance

moves by Darren or something like that.

437

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And he studies the moves and all the talent show and he's, he's doing like these crazy,

you know, it's kind of like, it's a form of break dancing, but then he goes a little

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crazy, but he steals the show.

439

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'm like, all right.

441

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Go Napoleon.

442

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That reminds me of those viral clips of the lady.

443

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This is hip hop!

444

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Yes!

445

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Those are so great.

446

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hip hop.

447

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This is hip hop.

448

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You gotta relax with it.

449

00:29:25,375 --> 00:29:26,416

gotta relax with it.

450

00:29:26,416 --> 00:29:27,083

Relax.

451

00:29:27,083 --> 00:29:27,833

And slouch.

452

00:29:27,833 --> 00:29:28,708

It relax.

453

00:29:28,708 --> 00:29:29,791

And slouch.

454

00:29:30,041 --> 00:29:31,458

And she updated them too!

455

00:29:31,458 --> 00:29:33,791

She re-did them, they're so good!

456

00:29:33,791 --> 00:29:35,041

tremendous.

457

00:29:35,583 --> 00:29:39,458

Yeah, that's always a good time when they come back and...

458

00:29:39,458 --> 00:29:41,416

spandex suit or whatever.

459

00:29:41,416 --> 00:29:42,291

Yeah.

460

00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:44,833

Yeah, it's everywhere.

461

00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:50,166

Yeah, for sure.

462

00:29:50,166 --> 00:29:50,916

Nice.

463

00:29:50,916 --> 00:29:54,000

You guys want to go around and rate the freshest kids?

464

00:29:54,208 --> 00:29:54,916

Let's do this.

465

00:29:54,916 --> 00:30:00,666

So Boogie, I think we know the answer, but for freshest kids, bring that funky flick back

466

00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:04,250

or leave it in the vault.

467

00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:07,458

Bring that funky flip back again and again.

468

00:30:07,458 --> 00:30:08,416

Hehehe.

469

00:30:08,916 --> 00:30:10,833

Dyno Wright Freshest kids.

470

00:30:10,833 --> 00:30:13,250

Bring that funky flick back or leave it in the vault.

471

00:30:13,666 --> 00:30:15,375

I am bringing this funky flick back.

472

00:30:15,375 --> 00:30:20,208

This is one of the best and most comprehensive films about b-boying.

473

00:30:20,875 --> 00:30:22,375

Yeah, I'm aligned.

474

00:30:22,375 --> 00:30:24,750

Bring that funky flick back and keep it front and center.

475

00:30:24,750 --> 00:30:27,750

This, think, needs more airplay, actually.

476

00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:30,375

It's not one.

477

00:30:30,375 --> 00:30:30,916

Yeah.

478

00:30:30,916 --> 00:30:31,333

of it.

479

00:30:31,333 --> 00:30:33,375

It was definitely made in an era.

480

00:30:33,708 --> 00:30:39,250

Oh yeah, this would have been perfect on ESPN2 when first, when they first had ESPN2.

481

00:30:40,291 --> 00:30:44,666

It looked the same, the typefaces are the same, all the graphics are like that era.

482

00:30:44,666 --> 00:30:45,875

It's delicious.

483

00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:47,083

So good.

484

00:30:47,208 --> 00:30:51,833

ESPN AND1 Mixtape Era.

485

00:30:51,833 --> 00:30:55,208

Definitely, definitely, definitely has that vibe.

486

00:30:55,333 --> 00:30:56,000

yeah, yeah.

487

00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,708

If you want some nostalgia and a history lesson, this is your cup of tea.

488

00:31:01,833 --> 00:31:04,375

Yeah, we could put this in a hip hop 101 course.

489

00:31:04,625 --> 00:31:06,125

Required viewing.

490

00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:06,916

Mm hmm.

491

00:31:06,916 --> 00:31:11,875

Really, like, this is in the top echelon of B-Boy films.

492

00:31:12,291 --> 00:31:13,583

Yeah, this has to

493

00:31:13,833 --> 00:31:14,250

Yeah.

494

00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:19,833

Alright, Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your HHMC's JB Boogie and Dyno Wright.

495

00:31:19,833 --> 00:31:21,083

Theme music by Boogie.

496

00:31:22,125 --> 00:31:26,916

As always, check out our full live event schedule on our website, hiphopmovieclub.com.

497

00:31:27,166 --> 00:31:29,666

Thanks for listening to the Hip Hop Movie Club podcast.

498

00:31:29,666 --> 00:31:31,958

If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend.

499

00:31:31,958 --> 00:31:33,833

It's a real power up for us.

500

00:31:34,583 --> 00:31:37,333

And remember, don't hate, circulate.

501

00:31:38,041 --> 00:31:40,875

Mm, circulate the knowledge.

502

00:31:40,875 --> 00:31:42,750

Yeah, it's really knowledge.

503

00:31:42,916 --> 00:31:43,708

There you go.

504

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I'm