Hello, happy Friday.
Speaker:So today we this
Speaker:conversation.
Speaker:I talked to the covers book club.
Speaker:It was live on YouTube.
Speaker:So if you want to watch a video, you can go to the YouTube channel link.
Speaker:We'll be in the show notes.
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Speaker:Hi, everybody.
Speaker:This is Francesca from Under the Covers Book Blog.
Speaker:And this is Laura from What to Read Next.
Speaker:So Laura and I decided that we were going to come today and talk about the
Speaker:Goodreads Top 100 Romance List of the last three years because we have some thoughts
Speaker:that we wanted to share with you guys.
Speaker:And also we want to see what you guys think, if you agree with us or not.
Speaker:You don't have to.
Speaker:So we're going to give you guys a little bit of time to come and join us.
Speaker:We're just going to talk a little bit in general about what
Speaker:the Goodreads top 100 list is.
Speaker:So I don't know about you, Laura, but did you know that Goodreads
Speaker:has been doing that for a while?
Speaker:Like there's been one of these lists every year.
Speaker:I have done every year.
Speaker:I know they do listicles about Top like best books for the year and best books
Speaker:like your readers wanted to bust out and everything, but it's still like the top
Speaker:100 romance and like every three years.
Speaker:And I'm like, oh, that's great.
Speaker:Except that.
Speaker:Things have shifted, in the market.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:It was, I think that you can actually see some of those trends with the
Speaker:list that they've put together.
Speaker:And, I mean, I guess we have to be honest also about it's Goodreads.
Speaker:Same as with the Goodreads Choice Awards.
Speaker:It is kind of a popularity contest, but they do mention at the top of the
Speaker:post that they are picking the books and base of what people added to their
Speaker:shelves, like the ratings and all of that.
Speaker:I did do a little bit of digging in the sense of like books that I know have sold.
Speaker:Like hit New York Times bestsellers list and I know they have a huge
Speaker:following and a huge readership.
Speaker:And yes, the ratings and like the reviews and all of that on Goodreads on
Speaker:the platform are much, much lower than all of the books that are on this list.
Speaker:So I guess I wonder if that has to do with people also moving away from Goodreads.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Like, is it a fact of some of the older, let's not older by age,
Speaker:but like more seasoned readers have moved away from the platform.
Speaker:So those reviews are not on there.
Speaker:Like I haven't been on Goodreads, I haven't rated anything on
Speaker:Goodreads for at least three years.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I would rate it for just as long.
Speaker:I think the other thing we have to think about is the advertisement industry.
Speaker:Who's paying for advertising for us in good reads.
Speaker:And so is that cost?
Speaker:Is that you know that they're making money from those books?
Speaker:Would it push them to actually show up in these list?
Speaker:'cause it does give them win-win.
Speaker:'cause it's more visibility.
Speaker:And so that's the other part that I'm thinking that may not be so upfront,
Speaker:but at the end of the day, go read Zoma Amazon and they're looking for a way to.
Speaker:make as much money doing the bare minimum product.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker:That's for sure.
Speaker:So yeah, I mean, I would love to know for you guys that are tuning in and watching,
Speaker:or if you're watching the replay, let us know if you're still writing your
Speaker:reviews or ratings on Goodreads, or if you've moved away from the platform,
Speaker:maybe you're just like tracking on offline, like a lot of my tracking is
Speaker:offline, but I am using also Storygraph.
Speaker:So I kind of keep that as my base.
Speaker:I moved to Storygraph fully last year and the year before I
Speaker:wasn't even tracking anywhere.
Speaker:So I don't know.
Speaker:But what about you?
Speaker:How are you tracking?
Speaker:I am not tracking.
Speaker:I'm only tracking Airtable but I'm not tracking publicly.
Speaker:I made the decision, any feedback, any reviews are going to go on sub stuff.
Speaker:And mostly that DNFs, things that I try are going to be paid subscriber because
Speaker:of the way I had literature for publishers and authors and specific things, I wanted
Speaker:to keep that like private in some ways.
Speaker:So I stopped tracking star rating in specific places
Speaker:of like, this is what works.
Speaker:Because reading is subjective and what I hate may be what you like, and so I
Speaker:try to be more conscious about like, I'm here to promote different books,
Speaker:recommend books, and curate those based on the different way of reading.
Speaker:And so my actual tracking of like, star rating happens privately, and then the
Speaker:other part is I track other measures that are important to me, like what kind
Speaker:of books I use, which dialogues I use.
Speaker:So I track the data points that are interesting for me.
Speaker:the hope and make a better decision moving forward.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The same for me.
Speaker:I do have my notion tracker, which does.
Speaker:I also do like to track that because, for example, if I'm not reading
Speaker:enough, Kindle Unlimited isn't worth it to keep the subscription.
Speaker:Or if I have some other kind of service that I pay for, whether it's like audio
Speaker:book service, Or when you're paying for like nonresident cards from a
Speaker:library, are you reading enough books from that service to justify the cost?
Speaker:So I think a lot of that you're not able to track with these kinds of platforms.
Speaker:So it makes sense that maybe some readers have moved away because you
Speaker:don't want to do double the work, so, yeah, that definitely makes sense.
Speaker:So let me know in the comments, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker:Like, do you think that the numbers are, accurate for like the whole community
Speaker:or are we really just looking at a Very small segment of the community, which
Speaker:is actually how i'm looking at this top 100 I see it as the book talk top 100.
Speaker:I feel like that's like just browsing through it.
Speaker:That's what you're seeing is what are the books that really hit it off the park
Speaker:on book talk in the last three years.
Speaker:That's what you're seeing there.
Speaker:So we'll get into that a little bit later.
Speaker:We're talking about trends and stuff.
Speaker:Let's talk on a positive note.
Speaker:What are some books that you saw on the list?
Speaker:Like, give me a couple of books that you saw and actually let me share
Speaker:with you guys the list so that You can see what we're talking about here,
Speaker:if it goes, it's going.
Speaker:Okay, alright, so the list is here.
Speaker:So, let's share with people a little bit what that looks like.
Speaker:It's the usual suspects, right?
Speaker:Suspects.
Speaker:So, briefly, these are the books that you're going to find on the Top 100.
Speaker:So, stop me when you see something that's like, that's the one.
Speaker:That's the one.
Speaker:That's why.
Speaker:We're still going.
Speaker:Oh, I like Nora on those subscribers.
Speaker:It's a little more women's fiction then.
Speaker:It's a paint a black close to our beautiful very older.
Speaker:I think it's a more like I'm surprised it is because it's a more older generation.
Speaker:It is not as spicy or as a younger kind of like snap.
Speaker:It has 167, 000 ratings.
Speaker:So that means people are reading it.
Speaker:So, which goes back to what I was saying, like those ratings on the
Speaker:books on this list are super high.
Speaker:So there's a lot of people that are reading these books
Speaker:that are using Goodreads.
Speaker:So maybe it's a user based.
Speaker:I was reading Praise when it just came out before the big wave that happened.
Speaker:And it was interesting to see that wave of, like, Sarah Kay coming from, like,
Speaker:the unexplored, like, like, it's a book that was told among friends at the time.
Speaker:Like, I usually read Praise.
Speaker:I usually read Praise.
Speaker:And then the explosion of Sarah Kate, because she was for a while, she was at
Speaker:every single signing, she was everywhere.
Speaker:And I'm like, this is amazing!
Speaker:But it was like, interesting to see that, like, seeing that
Speaker:explosion for the first time.
Speaker:And that's a three year old buff.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, hopefully next year, it won't be there.
Speaker:Yeah, well actually, there's a few Sarah Kates.
Speaker:I don't, like, it's just, I think the same goes for Elsie Silver.
Speaker:It just basically, you're like, yeah, the whole series, just
Speaker:the whole series comes in.
Speaker:I, yeah, there is.
Speaker:There's a usual suspect.
Speaker:Yes, it is all the usual suspects.
Speaker:And like you said, I actually find it a little bit unfair to put multiple books
Speaker:from the same series at the very least.
Speaker:You can probably put the same author, but if it's all in the same
Speaker:series, I feel like it's taking up space where because obviously if a
Speaker:series is super, super popular, the next book will still be popular.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:So I would open that up a little bit.
Speaker:But here's another Sarah Cage.
Speaker:And here's another one of them, so.
Speaker:I read that one.
Speaker:I actually enjoyed that one a lot.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But Julie Whelan, she was narrating it.
Speaker:That's probably why I made it too.
Speaker:It's a, Julie Whelan was well known for her narration and this is a.
Speaker:A book that she wrote about, I don't know, narration.
Speaker:So it's very meta.
Speaker:And I assume that's why it was like so popular in some ways.
Speaker:It's a good book.
Speaker:It's definitely, it's more women's fiction again.
Speaker:I was gonna say that also, it's more women's fiction.
Speaker:Not as strong women's, but, another source of hate.
Speaker:I do appreciate Lauren Natcher to be with us.
Speaker:I really like her new series, but she also came in the scene in the 2020.
Speaker:She was like, she rode the book talk wave.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:But I appreciate Lauren, even though she writes plenty of books, she's
Speaker:only given us two books a year, so she's not feeding us like constantly.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So we don't see that many books, but she's only giving us like a couple
Speaker:books a year, and I appreciate that.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I am all for authors that like control how much they put out.
Speaker:Cause we can't keep up.
Speaker:Like I want to read all the things.
Speaker:I don't want to just read you.
Speaker:So yeah, I actually read the Give Me More by Sarah Kate.
Speaker:Lost in Lasso was good.
Speaker:Doing the confidence, the coincidence of Wildflowers is not a romance.
Speaker:It's a duet.
Speaker:It has Turtle Warns the Lord, It's just hard.
Speaker:I do like Nicola's other books, but this one's the one that got her, noticed, but
Speaker:we have this one that I told you when we first looked at it I can't see the one
Speaker:with the Charlie, the one with the house.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Keeper of enchanted rooms, which is actually a historical fiction.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Have no idea how this is here.
Speaker:I don't know what happened.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:I've never seen this book either.
Speaker:So it's like, I don't know how it could have been so popular that it's in here,
Speaker:but you know, and the TM Williams, I will say I would not go for this one.
Speaker:I would go for it.
Speaker:So in days in June, I was romanced.
Speaker:I was actually angsty and fun and like, it's just like a joy to And so I wouldn't
Speaker:consider this one it I would consider 30s.
Speaker:Right, right And we were recently just talking about the love of my afterlife
Speaker:by christie lee wood Which again, it's kind of like the lone paranormal romance
Speaker:in my opinion because there are other paranormal things on here But are more
Speaker:fantasy romance And this one was more like women's fictiony And also not that
Speaker:good, so I don't know why it's here.
Speaker:I think it's magical realism.
Speaker:It's just like, like, it imagines that you're just in the afterlife, but
Speaker:like, it's more, it's not paranormal when we think of a paranormal of like,
Speaker:werewolves, vampires, otherworldly, it's just like, they're just coexisting
Speaker:and then you come back from death and you come back to a new life.
Speaker:Yes, it's paranormal, but it's so light.
Speaker:Yes, it's so light you can barely feel it.
Speaker:You can barely think about it.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:So for me, I actually have to say I'm happy to see that
Speaker:Carrie Lake is on the list.
Speaker:And I definitely can say that is because of the success that she
Speaker:had with BookTok, because her books were everywhere on BookTok, which
Speaker:I listen, I'm very happy about.
Speaker:So this anathema, I have not read this one, but it was her
Speaker:new release for this year.
Speaker:But there was Nocticadia, which was I think was 2023.
Speaker:Yeah, 2023 that I came out.
Speaker:I read it actually this year.
Speaker:And I really enjoyed it.
Speaker:It still has my one to read rating because again, I haven't used
Speaker:Goodreads for a couple of years.
Speaker:It was still on my to be read.
Speaker:So yeah, I, I actually do enjoy seeing her on the list and I do recommend Nocticadia.
Speaker:And as far as other things, like for example, the Dixon rule, and
Speaker:there was also the Graham effect by I'm surprised to see them here.
Speaker:I read both of them, but I'm kind of surprised to see them here because I don't
Speaker:think they're her strongest books either.
Speaker:So, and I also did not see them as talked about, online and
Speaker:in book circles and whatever.
Speaker:And let's see what else really stands out to me.
Speaker:Like, this is a lot of my do not read list.
Speaker:Actually, a lot of the, like the tropes and the authors and the, yeah.
Speaker:Things are usually the things I don't gravitate towards and I don't know about
Speaker:you, but for me, when something is like really popular, whether it's an author.
Speaker:Or like a type of book, I tend to completely disconnect and not want
Speaker:to read it like I dig my heels in and I'm like, I'm not reading that only
Speaker:because it's like super, super popular.
Speaker:So, yeah, so Phantasma is another one that I would highly recommend.
Speaker:So I'm happy to see that there.
Speaker:It is a paranormal romance.
Speaker:So that is an actual paranormal romance.
Speaker:Which I think is really like, like I said, like one of the very few.
Speaker:And I did like A Lights Out by Nevesa Allen.
Speaker:I did read that book.
Speaker:It's on my list too to add the audio for it.
Speaker:Yeah, the audio is so good.
Speaker:The audio is good.
Speaker:He did do a really good job with it.
Speaker:We got Meghan Quinn, we got Meghan Brandy, we got Elsie Silver, we got those ones
Speaker:who are like, who have been around.
Speaker:Rachel Gillick, I feel like, is not really fantasy romance.
Speaker:It's more.
Speaker:fantasy with some romantic elements in it.
Speaker:So that does not need to be there.
Speaker:But yeah.
Speaker:Usual suspects here.
Speaker:You do have another Lauren Asher.
Speaker:Yeah, we have one.
Speaker:We have And I don't know if these are in any kind of order, but I was actually
Speaker:surprised if they are, which I kind of,
Speaker:more things we never got over, like on the number four spot, I
Speaker:was kind of surprised about that.
Speaker:It's the most sold book in Kindle limited.
Speaker:Like it's actually has sold so many units that it's like, I wrote, cause
Speaker:there was a, this is for a human, for a I, like, you can't know when
Speaker:they released the new Kindles.
Speaker:They brought their multi influencers to Amazon to start with the Kindles.
Speaker:And they had her there.
Speaker:And it was like, the things were never brought over.
Speaker:It's the most, like, most popular, most sold book, most famous book sold.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:It's not like, it's 500 pages long.
Speaker:So, it's making her very, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, listen I actually enjoy
Speaker:Lucy's score, so I have not read that one, but I do enjoy her writing and
Speaker:her books, so I am happy to see that.
Speaker:I feel like this makes sense, because book lovers is, IGNF book lovers but
Speaker:these four are probably the, like, the ones that had lots of units.
Speaker:They were quite a bunch, going forward.
Speaker:Every summer after was another one that sold a lot of units
Speaker:because they were big enough.
Speaker:We got Clarissa Brogdon, who is actually, I do appreciate Clarissa's writing.
Speaker:So I know we got to be out of human heads and yeah, I actually, I mean,
Speaker:I don't know how many books Ali Hazelwood has put out in the last
Speaker:three years, like looking at dates.
Speaker:But I think there was only two on this list.
Speaker:This one is more.
Speaker:She did checkmate.
Speaker:She got the deep end, she got bride, and then she has not in love.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I pinched on them while the hurricane happened, that's what I was using it with.
Speaker:So they were like, I caught up with all of them.
Speaker:I haven't read Love Theoretically because I feel like that's too STEM.
Speaker:She starts to read outside of the STEM, books.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I'm kind of glad because they're much better, they reading
Speaker:the same thing over and over.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, yeah.
Speaker:So that one is interesting.
Speaker:I'm actually one of the few people that probably doesn't
Speaker:read Ali Hazelwood as much.
Speaker:I read her first book.
Speaker:I liked it, but it was just okay.
Speaker:And I don't like to keep reading things where it's like, well, it was okay.
Speaker:So, and then I read one last year that she did for Spotify.
Speaker:It was on audio only, I can't remember what it's called.
Speaker:Something about play.
Speaker:Yeah, I would suggest reading The Deep End and the cute caveat with that, it's
Speaker:college age, so they act like they're college age, their full frontal lobe is
Speaker:not fully formed, so they act like that.
Speaker:You are completely turning me off from reading it.
Speaker:It's a really good one, it's just, it's, yeah, it's fun, it's in depth, it talks
Speaker:about like that's the mental health.
Speaker:Of a diver who has the itis and so it's like trying to see, I
Speaker:think it was just something that doesn't cannot dive anymore.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:If I keep overcoming that process, it is not being his hand.
Speaker:It is not forbidden.
Speaker:None of the way it was marked is wrong.
Speaker:It is actually like a fun, fun romp at the same time with someone who actually
Speaker:has to work out with the lead athlete.
Speaker:some major blockage.
Speaker:So for sure, deep end probably be the book that is going to come up next year
Speaker:when they do this list again, and like they do the past years, because they're
Speaker:getting complaints about it for too much sex, they're getting complaints about it.
Speaker:Well for sure they're going to get complaints for marketing, because
Speaker:they're marketing something.
Speaker:They're not fully like, I don't get how they're connected, because they're friends
Speaker:of benefit, and there's too much sex.
Speaker:And I was like, but they're in college, like what do you expect them to do?
Speaker:Like, they're not going to get married.
Speaker:It's like, think about YA, you're not expecting these people
Speaker:to get married, like, at 18.
Speaker:Yeah, no, I would be concerned.
Speaker:Yeah, so.
Speaker:Let them have their fun, it's okay.
Speaker:So, if you guys are watching, drop in the comments what book from this list
Speaker:do you love the most, or if you're watching the replay, let us know.
Speaker:So, which one do you really agree with?
Speaker:Yeah, and now we're going to go into our negatives.
Speaker:I mean, we kind of talked a little bit about the things that we don't
Speaker:know why with why they're there.
Speaker:But what are the ones that you absolutely would switch out from here?
Speaker:I think this is not supposed to be there.
Speaker:It's not romantic.
Speaker:It's just, it's fantasy with romantic elements, but it's just not.
Speaker:Fourth wing, I guess, but it's, I think they need to take away the
Speaker:romanticy and how it's separate, or fantasy, and how it's separate,
Speaker:than just calling it romance.
Speaker:Yeah, and I think that's also because of the booktalk effect, right?
Speaker:So booktalk is heavily romanticy popular, so it's going to
Speaker:dominate a lot of this section.
Speaker:But you were saying that book lovers, you DNF?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:So I guess you would switch that out.
Speaker:I would switch that out.
Speaker:The Abbi Jimenez switched those out.
Speaker:I like your, I could not tell us about the other ones.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I need some historicals.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:We don't, we genre and just.
Speaker:These two genre presented?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I feel like what they're really missing here, and there are books that are
Speaker:really good and really popular, also really big authors, historical romance.
Speaker:There's like nothing here.
Speaker:There's also no like true paranormal romance.
Speaker:Like I don't see an A thing in here.
Speaker:I don't see a. J. R. Ward.
Speaker:And I mean, I haven't really enjoyed your awards books in the
Speaker:past couple of years, but you know, they're still selling, they're still
Speaker:popular, people are still buying it.
Speaker:So I don't see that stuff here.
Speaker:So I feel like there should be some guardrails and some guidelines.
Speaker:But I was looking back again on like how many ratings these books have.
Speaker:And all of these books on here have like, 60, 000, 130, 000,
Speaker:like they have a lot of ratings.
Speaker:So, I mean, obviously the readers are there on Goodreads.
Speaker:And I think it's just because we're not doing our job, I
Speaker:guess, filling in the data to Goodreads, so it's a little skewed.
Speaker:I'm assuming the Booktube Girls are actually going to Goodreads.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:Let's just begin with friends.
Speaker:And weirdness is that Erin is still limited to 5, 000 friends.
Speaker:So you really need to update this slide to have 5, 000 friends, because I don't
Speaker:want to be nosy and I want to be your friend and know what you're doing.
Speaker:That's what I use for reading.
Speaker:I go for like the social feed to figure out what you're reading.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And go to my friends feed and they took away my app, or took away the
Speaker:option for you to see what, how they're doing in the challenge.
Speaker:And when I read the chapter, it took away that.
Speaker:Oh wow.
Speaker:Which I was like, that's my favorite aspect of it.
Speaker:One is comparing the stairs, so then I can see like, oh
Speaker:shitty, I'm not reading enough.
Speaker:And the other one is like, oh, these are what my friends are reading,
Speaker:so I can actually talk about them.
Speaker:Or I can just like, pull them in and bump it up in the TBR.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:I think that would be helpful.
Speaker:But yeah, I don't think that they're as social anymore.
Speaker:I remember when I used to be on Goodreads all the time, and it was really social.
Speaker:And actually, that's one aspect of StoryGraph that I am not 100 percent
Speaker:sold on is the fact that there's very little social interaction.
Speaker:Yes, there is a feed.
Speaker:But it's very isolated.
Speaker:Like you have to literally go into that section as opposed to just
Speaker:when you log in, your feet is there when you log into story graph.
Speaker:It's like, here's your books that you're reading.
Speaker:And here's some books that you might enjoy.
Speaker:But that social feed is not there.
Speaker:And I feel like having to go and look for that social feed.
Speaker:It's like a little bit of friction.
Speaker:Like, I don't, I never go on there to see what you read.
Speaker:On story graph, because I was like, I need the social aspect of it.
Speaker:I can track my data, the way I Yeah, I'm really good with data.
Speaker:I can do pivot tables.
Speaker:I can do graphs.
Speaker:I can do specific things.
Speaker:I know the data point.
Speaker:I don't need someone else to create those tableau dashes for me.
Speaker:I just need to actually talk and see what people are reading because I'm nosy and
Speaker:also that's how I get recommendations.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:Like, oh, this could be a bump it up because I see most
Speaker:of my friends reading this.
Speaker:Maybe this is something I did not know this came out, or
Speaker:I did not know this existed.
Speaker:This is a hidden gem with a backlist title.
Speaker:And that's where I get, that's the whole point of like, what I
Speaker:look for in my reading community.
Speaker:Because I started working with Next because I found a problem myself.
Speaker:I was always a reader, but I never had enough recommendations.
Speaker:So I was always thinking, like, find an author, reach your bucket list, and then
Speaker:just go to lunch notes and get some ideas.
Speaker:And I was like, I need to have a community aspect to it and not Once I
Speaker:found out there was such a thing as a community, I was like, oh, I want to be
Speaker:part of it and then create a community and create a place for recommendations.
Speaker:No judgment.
Speaker:We do not yell at other people's young.
Speaker:Just because I didn't like it, doesn't mean that you may like it.
Speaker:So we provide recommendations based on the different needs, different
Speaker:ideas, and different books to read.
Speaker:Yeah, I completely agree with that.
Speaker:Completely agree with that.
Speaker:Oops, sorry, my internet is going, so hopefully it's working.
Speaker:But yeah, I actually really enjoyed that aspect of Goodreads when I was
Speaker:on it, and this was way, way back.
Speaker:Probably because I feel like also a lot of the people that I was friends
Speaker:with also have left Goodreads.
Speaker:So, I don't really Actively people to follow.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So it, I just closed the whole chapter.
Speaker:I don't wanna add new friends.
Speaker:I just wanna like, look people at my book trends, I just wanna
Speaker:know what they're reading.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Read that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It helps, like you really, it's really helpful to see what people are
Speaker:reading and get new recommendations.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So as far as for me . Ones that I would probably remove from here, like I said,
Speaker:the Rachel Gillig, I don't think this is.
Speaker:A romance, I don't, even a romanticy, so even if we go by that, it's not, it's
Speaker:a fantasy book with romance elements.
Speaker:So I would definitely switch those out.
Speaker:And like you said, the Annabelle Monaghan, those are fantastic.
Speaker:Those are women's fiction.
Speaker:So, I would take that.
Speaker:Catherine Center, I always see her also as women's fiction.
Speaker:It's not as, this was a rom com.
Speaker:I did read this.
Speaker:This is a rom com.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:It's not, it's, there's romance here.
Speaker:It's there, but it's a rom com.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So, at least there's that.
Speaker:The Spell Shop, I don't think is as romance either.
Speaker:Like, I know they market it a lot as a romanticy, but, I don't think so.
Speaker:What else?
Speaker:I would definitely take out this thing because it's a historical thing.
Speaker:Like, I don't even know how that's there.
Speaker:I feel like this book probably must have paid some money.
Speaker:Because that makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker:I haven't even seen it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, okay.
Speaker:So now if you had to make some comments or add some books for
Speaker:things that you don't see on this list, what would you actually say?
Speaker:So historical, patriotic, historical rom coms, even the mystery rom coms that
Speaker:are coming up, that's an up and coming, where it mixes true crime or like stuff.
Speaker:I didn't see Romantic Suspense, actually.
Speaker:Yeah, no.
Speaker:Same, so obviously that area where we're, Think about the
Speaker:audience that we're looking.
Speaker:Women listen to true crime, also like smutty Romans.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Mixing them together is like the perfect baby.
Speaker:And actually, if you think about that specific niche, you cannot tell
Speaker:me that there's no Nora Roberts on this list in the past three years.
Speaker:Like she writes amazing as JD Rob for romantic thrillers.
Speaker:And then she has her regular romantic suspense and she's been releasing books.
Speaker:So, so think about those, like that area, that genre that needs to be addressed.
Speaker:There's plenty of, limited, there's plenty of like, books and there's, and
Speaker:they're emerging new trends with that.
Speaker:So I Carter is bringing back the spies and stuff.
Speaker:We have captain policy.
Speaker:Similar to Nora Roberts, Small Town, Romanticist Friends Novels.
Speaker:We have Davey Robb and that series that's been ongoing for 30 something years.
Speaker:We did have a Daphne Perry, which is a little bit of that, like, No,
Speaker:that's not a Romanticist Friends.
Speaker:That's actually, I read that book.
Speaker:It's not Romanticist Friends.
Speaker:It's not Romanticist Friends.
Speaker:That's just a romance.
Speaker:Yeah, I know.
Speaker:There's no mystery in that one.
Speaker:So, no.
Speaker:So yeah, they're really missing that.
Speaker:They're missing also Paranormal.
Speaker:Yeah, I think.
Speaker:And in general, something else I noticed, and I did see that also in the comments.
Speaker:There's only like a couple of books by Black authors.
Speaker:There's no diversity.
Speaker:There's one queer romance.
Speaker:And I know that there's a lot of really popular titles that have
Speaker:come out in the last three years.
Speaker:So it's kind of surprising not to see those.
Speaker:They're only showing the worst authors that are selling millions of units.
Speaker:Yeah, Anna Huang, Lauren Ash, or Kennedy Ryan.
Speaker:Okay, but there are other authors that are doing, that could be like
Speaker:selling units and still like, up and coming and stuff like that.
Speaker:Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker:Where it's like, whenever there's like a diverse list of them, like
Speaker:they send the same, I'm like, you're sending the same three authors, like,
Speaker:look for something else, yeah, and they, there are those authors where
Speaker:like maybe there's like a runaway hit where one book really sold well.
Speaker:So I would love to see more of that in lists like this.
Speaker:I think that's probably There's no clue who we're in this list.
Speaker:So Lord, we're actually, we're on a good place.
Speaker:We have passed.
Speaker:We have passed the air.
Speaker:Now we just have to do the same with Sarah J. Mass.
Speaker:So you know what?
Speaker:There's only two.
Speaker:So did she only release two books?
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Maybe.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So then there was only two to add to the list.
Speaker:We are still not over that , we're still not over.
Speaker:She's supposed to, we're supposed to get a new avatar book next and then, okay.
Speaker:So, the year that she sent us, she, she released a couple of books a year.
Speaker:Those years are over.
Speaker:She's no longer, she's no longer doing, so funny.
Speaker:A bunch of books.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So other than that let's add a couple of books that you think could have made the
Speaker:list that, or should have made the list.
Speaker:What are some of your recommendations?
Speaker:I think, like, honestly, I would just look at romantic suspense, like, and
Speaker:I, top of my head, I cannot name those books, but I'm looking at bad genre,
Speaker:genre where there's, like, serial killers or, like, or things on the run.
Speaker:Looking at that specific genre from small town to the security.
Speaker:So the ones who are on the force, like there's up and coming authors, like
Speaker:real short material while there, that's doing some really good stuff that I
Speaker:would like to see more and then the mystery rom coms they're coming in.
Speaker:So if we're looking for the rom coms, those things are published books.
Speaker:I think Molly Harper has one.
Speaker:There's quite a few that are coming up and I think those are
Speaker:my view of hiding in that genre.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I think like to wrap up a little bit of what my thoughts were on this.
Speaker:I think it depends also on the fact that there's a lot of romance readers
Speaker:that are not using Goodreads anymore.
Speaker:And just the list skews a certain way.
Speaker:And also because of publisher input or like just marketing in general,
Speaker:because it is an Amazon company.
Speaker:So it's going to push the things that are selling also on Amazon.
Speaker:as much.
Speaker:So I don't know, I feel like there's a push between the book
Speaker:talk and Amazon sales and that's why we're getting this level.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I definitely would love to see a little bit more thought on at least not including
Speaker:everything from a series so that it gives the space to add other things.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's one author, one book per author.
Speaker:The most book in the author and then you just know you can
Speaker:like go backwards from that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, because it gives opportunity to other people.
Speaker:Otherwise, it always turns into here's like the 20 authors that are popular
Speaker:right now and just regurgitate the same thing, which like whenever I see
Speaker:that, that's actually an indication for me, and I know I'm weird,
Speaker:but that's my indication to like.
Speaker:Not read that.
Speaker:I'm disappointed.
Speaker:Like, oh, this was not good.
Speaker:Sometimes I'm like, oh, this question was good.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I want to make it better.
Speaker:I've been trying to make it better up there.
Speaker:I'm looking for hidden gems that people are up and coming or they use or like
Speaker:gems that I find like scrolling through Amazon or Libby and trying them out
Speaker:because You get so screwed with overhyped books, and there's like something that
Speaker:was said about like, pay a look for other books that are similar to that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, I definitely tend to skew more that way because, I don't know, I feel like
Speaker:one, everybody's already talking about those, so like, they're gonna be popular
Speaker:and they're gonna sell anyway, so why are we always reading the same things?
Speaker:And a lot of times I actually enjoy the newer or hidden gems more than those other
Speaker:authors, so we gotta give them a chance.
Speaker:So yeah that's my takeaway from this whole thing.
Speaker:It's like, please read other things than the same authors.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I hope that you guys leave your comments with what you actually
Speaker:thought of the Goodreads top 100.
Speaker:Let us know if you agree with us or if you disagree.
Speaker:We're not going to judge a little bit.
Speaker:We don't yuck your numb.
Speaker:We're not yucking all these people's numb, so we're good.
Speaker:I think that's the most important, right?
Speaker:Also, actually, there was a lot of dark romance on this list.
Speaker:But it's booktalk.
Speaker:Booktalk has a lot of dark romance.
Speaker:Booktalk is like everything.
Speaker:Like, give me the most taboo shit, and I'm here for it.
Speaker:And I'm like, and things are like, Okay, I'm not yelping, but okay!
Speaker:Yeah it's the fact that it was dark, or the really fluffy contemporary rom
Speaker:coms, or romance y. Like, that's it.
Speaker:That's all you got.
Speaker:Yeah, but there was no mafia!
Speaker:And I love me some mafia.
Speaker:If you guys want mafia recommendations, there's a mafia niche list for everything.
Speaker:I'm working on more.
Speaker:So we got super baby.
Speaker:We got forced marriage.
Speaker:We got arranged marriage.
Speaker:We got age gap.
Speaker:We got enemies to lovers.
Speaker:We, I have a couple in advance, like mafia mom call.
Speaker:Like, there's a little bit of everything for you.
Speaker:There's Mafia Ballerina.
Speaker:Mafia Ballerina's is coming.
Speaker:I actually have some of it on the vlog, but I'm going to do a bigger list for you.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:So see, these are the things that should be on the list.
Speaker:And the funny thing is that I know that some of these authors are selling a lot.
Speaker:So like, what is happening?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So anyway, guys, thank you for joining us today.
Speaker:Leave us your comments about your thoughts on the Goodreads Top 100.
Speaker:Have you read any of them?
Speaker:What are your favorites?
Speaker:Because yes, there were some great books that made the list.
Speaker:But what are your misses?
Speaker:Which ones you would replace?
Speaker:And be sure to follow both of us.
Speaker:Laura is here on YouTube, and she's also on Substack.
Speaker:And her podcast.
Speaker:So make sure you find all the things in her blog and also follow under
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Speaker:catch us next week live on Thursday.
Speaker:We're going back for novel hour.
Speaker:We're going to talk about Galentine's day and friendship recommendations.
Speaker:So it's going to be fun episode.
Speaker:It's going to be a fun one.
Speaker:I'm going to talk about toxic friends, which is, I'm very excited.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:Oh, like, sometimes you need, like, those frenemies, and I do have frenemies, and
Speaker:Francesca knows what my frenemies are.
Speaker:I haven't decided what I'm going to focus on, but I don't want to
Speaker:do like just regular friendships.
Speaker:I may do like romances.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Yes, that would be fun.
Speaker:Like it's like, let's just share the friendship.
Speaker:Yeah, let's share all the friendships.
Speaker:So if you guys have recommendations, come to the live
Speaker:and share them with us as well.
Speaker:Yeah, all right.
Speaker:We'll see you guys.
Speaker:Bye.
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