Welcome to Close it now, the podcast that's revolutionizing the H Vac and home improvement trades industries.
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Speaker AWe're turning up the heat on industry standards and cooling down misconceptions.
Speaker AAnd we're not just talking about fixing vents and adjusting thermostats.
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Speaker AThis is Close it now, where excellence meets excitement.
Speaker ALet's get to work now your host, Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BWell, all right.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BClose It Now.
Speaker BI am stoked to get into this episode.
Speaker BToday we are covering episode number seven in the Energy series.
Speaker BThis one is energetic listening.
Speaker BHow to hear what they are not saying.
Speaker BI like to call it listening between the lines.
Speaker BSo have you ever been in this situation?
Speaker BThey said yes, but something kind of just felt off.
Speaker BThey nodded but you could feel the hesitation or they gave you the famous let me think about it and then disappeared.
Speaker BTurn into ghosts.
Speaker BWhat happened?
Speaker BMost reps listen to the words.
Speaker BElite reps listen to the energy.
Speaker BThey hear what the buyers aren't saying.
Speaker BSo that's what we're going to cover today.
Speaker BSo stick around.
Speaker BWe are getting into this right away.
Speaker BSo quick recap of the episodes up until now.
Speaker BRemember, this is a nine part series.
Speaker BThis is episode seven.
Speaker BNumber one was energy as the missing cell skill.
Speaker BWe just, we talked about just the energy in general.
Speaker BNumber two, we talked about setting the right container.
Speaker BIt's not just setting expectations but actually creating a container of create the space first of, we're creating a trusted safe space for them to be able to make a buying decision.
Speaker BNumber three was emotional leadership.
Speaker BWe're going to lead the room without absorbing their energy.
Speaker BNumber four, transferring certainty.
Speaker BIt's belief over words.
Speaker BNumber five was energetic consistency.
Speaker BHow to show up and how to show up steady every single time.
Speaker BNumber six was energetic mirrors buyers.
Speaker BReflect what you bring.
Speaker BYou are leading the conversation.
Speaker BRemember, be the calm in their chaos.
Speaker BToday we're going to step into a definitely a more advanced but often definitely overlooked skill.
Speaker BEnergetic listening.
Speaker BWhat is energetic listening?
Speaker BSo we're going to dive into that.
Speaker BBut first let's talk about what happened at Relentless, the ultimate sales transformation in Boston last week because it was transformational.
Speaker BSo incredible.
Speaker BSaw just saw leaders walk out different than they walked in Definitely had some breakthroughs.
Speaker BWe had some serious mindset shifts.
Speaker BWe unlocked some massive identity.
Speaker BOne of the things that is so important to understand is when you have the right room with the right people in the right container, it creates accelerated growth.
Speaker BThe it was three days of event, but I can tell you we compressed time for people.
Speaker BWe smashed years of experience and training into a short amount of time.
Speaker BAnd the people that left there, I'm immediately hearing stories of people closing deals that they never would have gotten before that are closing at much higher tickets than they ever have before.
Speaker BJust going right through handling objections like they never have before, or as we like to call them, areas of concern.
Speaker BThank you, Mr.
Speaker BDoug Wyatt.
Speaker BAnd so, man, it was.
Speaker BIt was powerful.
Speaker BWe laughed, we cried.
Speaker BWe definitely transformed.
Speaker BSo you missed out.
Speaker BWe're going to have some people on the show coming up that were at the event to talk about how their.
Speaker BHow their stories have transformed, how their life has transformed, how their cells have transformed as a result of the event.
Speaker BSo stick around.
Speaker BIt is going to be awesome.
Speaker BSo let's get into this.
Speaker BI've got a lot to cover today, so we're going to short circuit a little bit.
Speaker BWe're going to skip the what's in your cup section today, but I do have to give a shout out to my buddy, Brian o' Boyle.
Speaker BHe did bring me some tea from Ireland.
Speaker BSo it's Irish tea and it is fire at this next level.
Speaker BSo thank you so much, Brian.
Speaker BI appreciate that.
Speaker BAnd also my buddy Tony Manier, he brought me.
Speaker BBrought me some coffee, brought me a bag of coffee at the event.
Speaker BAnd I'm so grateful to every single one of you who, you know, you reached out.
Speaker BYou've given me, you know, tips and recommendations for coffee is for teas.
Speaker BAnd it's.
Speaker BThis has been a fun ride.
Speaker BI love the just, just how we all connect to how we're creating this community of each other, supporting each other, we're supporting ourselves, we're supporting other people.
Speaker BBeing part of a tribe is a lot of fun, especially when we're focused on the same thing.
Speaker BSo let's get into this because we'll get a quick hydration drink here, everybody.
Speaker BWhat are you drinking today?
Speaker BI've got my Close it now bottle.
Speaker BThat was a gift from Mr.
Speaker BTim Hook after I was on his podcast up at Hook Agency.
Speaker BMr.
Speaker BTim Brown.
Speaker BI say Tim Hook.
Speaker BThat's what his Facebook profile is.
Speaker BTim Brown at Hook Agency.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BIf you need some digital service, he is a beast there.
Speaker BDo good stuff up there.
Speaker BSo Hydrate.
Speaker BLet's get into this.
Speaker BSo let's see.
Speaker BWe've got three levels of listening.
Speaker BOh, actually, let me go back a little bit, a little bit more about the event.
Speaker BWe've got some other cool things going on.
Speaker BI made a couple cool announcements.
Speaker BOne of the things that's going to be happening here really soon, here's a perk of being at the event.
Speaker BSo I'm going to talk about what it is and then I'll tell you what the perk is.
Speaker BI was hearing from everybody there because we had a lot of people that were different speakers.
Speaker BWe didn't have the chance to go through, you know, step by step in super detail of every single step of the Close it now sales system.
Speaker BSo what I announced at the event is I'm going to host a webinar coming up here.
Speaker BIt's going to be, we're going to do it in a couple sittings.
Speaker BSo it's going to be several hours of webinar where we are going to walk through the entire Close it now sales system, start to finish, soup to nuts, as they like to say.
Speaker BAnd what that will be.
Speaker BIt is going to be a paid webinar.
Speaker BSo I want you to, it's not going to be outrageous or anything, but we're going to be diving in.
Speaker BWe're going to spend probably six or eight hours together in total once I get it all mapped out and basically to train it as if we were in classroom together.
Speaker BWhen I do on site trainings, when I do travel trainings at companies and organizations, this is a huge part of what we walk through.
Speaker BWell, you are all going to get the benefit of that and it's going to be, it's going to be great.
Speaker BSo if you have been wanting to know what this system is, start to finish, if you've been wanting some training specifically on that, if you don't have a system, this is a proven, it's a proven one.
Speaker BWe see insane numbers across the country.
Speaker BBig towns and little towns in the country, in the city, it doesn't matter in the north, in the south, it doesn't really matter because it's based and rooted in psychology.
Speaker BBrains are brains, people are people.
Speaker BAnd at the foundation of it, psychology is psychology.
Speaker BSo when you overlay that with the steps in a system that are built in order to unlock those padlocks in someone's brain, you get results and it's really incredible what happens.
Speaker BSo I'm going to be going through that start to finish.
Speaker BSo join the Facebook group or message Me and get on the mailing list.
Speaker BI'm going to announce when we are going to be hosting that it's going to be a virtual event.
Speaker BIt's going to be across several days and it's going to be fire.
Speaker BSo make sure that you are involved in that.
Speaker BNow the perk and bonus of being at the event.
Speaker BEveryone who attended Relentless is going to get free access to this event.
Speaker BBecause I always bring extra value to everyone who is in the room.
Speaker BThey make the effort to get to the event, they bought the ticket, all of those things.
Speaker BSo I want to make sure to provide value for everyone there.
Speaker BSo that's a big one.
Speaker BSo if you weren't at the event, you'll have to pay everybody who was at the event.
Speaker BYou get free access which is great incentive everyone to be at the next event.
Speaker BThat happens.
Speaker BThe other announcement that I have that happened that I announced at the event I introduced is I have just created an epic follow up system.
Speaker BSo we know the fortune is in the follow up.
Speaker BI do not care what other leaders in the industry say.
Speaker BThere is massive amounts of money left on the table if you don't follow up.
Speaker BAnd if you don't follow up 8, 10, 12 times.
Speaker BThe problem is we've never had really a roadmap or system of how to do it.
Speaker BSo as we're all great with cell systems, we've got these beautifully designed systems.
Speaker BThere's lots of different versions, of course, there's mine.
Speaker BThere's, you know, lots of different trainers have their own system.
Speaker BNow what happens though is we get to the follow up and everybody says okay, you got a follow up, you got to follow up.
Speaker BBut no one knows how, no one knows the right language to use and we definitely don't have any type of a plan.
Speaker BEspecially as detailed as your sales system should be, we should have a follow up system just as detailed.
Speaker BSo what I created is a cell.
Speaker BIt's a follow up system starting day zero from the time that you, if you just absolutely can't close it, of course we're going to do everything we to close the project.
Speaker BAlso this is not a crutch to not go hard in the paint and stay in the batter's box and handle areas of concern, handle objections the way you should.
Speaker BHowever, we all know there are some clients that just, they don't buy on the first sit and it's okay because we're creating relationship.
Speaker BI am all about the idea that as long as they continue to bam fam, book a meeting from a meeting and book the next appointment, it's just to be continued.
Speaker BThere's no such thing as losing the sale just because we need to book a second or third, a visitor or whatever it takes, do what it takes to win the business.
Speaker BThis is what top performers do.
Speaker BSo I created this plan.
Speaker BIt goes out, it's based around four different.
Speaker BIt's got a lot of things in it.
Speaker BIf you know me, you know I do things over the top and to excellent detail.
Speaker BSo it's based on four different buyer types sorted by if you've booked a meeting or haven't to continue the conversation.
Speaker BAnd it's also sorted by different phases after the appointment because somebody's mental state and the psychology of like day zero through day three is different than day four through seven, which is different than day seven through 14, which is different than day 15 through 2021, which is different than that phase into phase nine into you know, say 90 days out, which is different than 90 plus.
Speaker BSo I created a follow up system with all of the touch points, complete with scripts for email, text message, video message and phone call or of course in person if they actually get in touch with them.
Speaker BFour different scripts, four different modalities for the four different buyer types at each phase of the step, completing 12 plus touches along the way.
Speaker BSo this is your net, this is the follow up system.
Speaker BNow this is, is not, it's definitely not something I'm giving away except for everybody who attended the event, got the beta test version that I had printed and bound for attendees of the event.
Speaker BOne more reason to attend events because you get a lot of extra bonuses.
Speaker BSo we are going to be hosting a webinar on that as well coming up soon.
Speaker BThis thing is fire.
Speaker BI cannot tell you how incredible it is.
Speaker BIt's still in a little bit of beta test.
Speaker BWe've got some case studies out so we'll report back with some numbers here as soon as, as soon as we start, they start coming back in.
Speaker BBut I can tell you one of the things that we did while we were in the event.
Speaker BI had everybody send out one basic easy follow up message.
Speaker BAnd my man Jonathan Neves up at the Green Energy Mechanical, he set up his chirp, he sent out, he just sorted by the four months of the summer, this past summer, summer 2024.
Speaker BSo last year he sent out a message and it took him about 30 seconds to do maybe a minute.
Speaker BThe message went out to four months worth of unsold proposals and within minutes four different people responded back.
Speaker BAnd the very next day closed one for I think it was a little over 20k.
Speaker BSo that was the time it took to do it.
Speaker BGot back in touch, closed it down.
Speaker BSo there is fortune in the follow up.
Speaker BSo I love the process and you are going to love the system as well.
Speaker BI've never seen anything at all like it anywhere in the industry, in any home services.
Speaker BAnd so I was excited to develop that for all of you to be able to close more business.
Speaker BI'm telling you, you have millions of dollars, literally millions of dollars sitting on the table that just because they didn't go with you does not mean they went with somebody else.
Speaker BIn fact, most people when they don't ch unless they specifically said they went with somebody else and even then a lot of times they back out of that too.
Speaker BThat's why you go back by their house and it's still got the old condenser sitting out there.
Speaker BThey still have the old garage door, they still have the old roof, whatever it is, they didn't buy from anybody.
Speaker BThe confused mind said no.
Speaker BThey got overwhelmed, they got into decision, you know, indecision, they got into analysis paralysis and didn't pull the trigger on anything.
Speaker BSo there is a massive amount of fortune in the follow up.
Speaker BYou just have to do the dang work, stop being lazy.
Speaker BAnd a lot of times we didn't do the work just because we didn't have a system or know what to do.
Speaker BWell, there's no excuses now.
Speaker BI made it for you.
Speaker BSo we're going to do a webinar on that coming up soon.
Speaker BSo make sure to join the Close it Now Facebook group and I'll be making those announcements.
Speaker BAlso, two other things.
Speaker BNow that I am back from the relentless event, I am going to be relaunching the every other week we're going to be doing role play sessions in my Zoom room.
Speaker BSo join the Facebook group, you'll get announcements for all that.
Speaker BI put the events up on Facebook.
Speaker BSo we're relaunching the role play sessions.
Speaker BWe're going to be handling objections, we're going to be handling closing, we're going to be handling all these different phases of the appointment and you get the opportunity to practice.
Speaker BI don't do a whole lot of training.
Speaker BI usually do a tiny bit of training at the beginning and that we just go around and take turns and practice the words.
Speaker BSo if you don't get the support you need at your company, if you are, say you're solo out there like me.
Speaker BFor the first decade of my career, I was just by myself.
Speaker BIn a car most of the time, I didn't have the ability.
Speaker BThere wasn't Facebook groups, there wasn't anything like this to be able to tap into.
Speaker BAnd no streaming, any of that.
Speaker BAnd so it's definitely an ability to speed your learning faster, speed your mastery.
Speaker BAnd so we're going to be doing that also.
Speaker BI'm relaunching the Close it now book club.
Speaker BThis is for anyone in or outside of home services.
Speaker BShare with anyone who could use personal, who would, you know, would love to join for personal growth.
Speaker BWe're going to cover business books, we're going to cover sales books, we're going to cover mindset books.
Speaker BWe're going to cover a lot of different things.
Speaker BSo I want this to be a welcome open community.
Speaker BThe book club.
Speaker BThere will be no, no such thing as a sales pitch in it.
Speaker BIt's strictly there to help our industry, help all of home services raise the standard.
Speaker BWe've got to raise our mindsets.
Speaker BSo relaunching the book club also will be announced on our email list and through the Facebook group.
Speaker BSo make sure to go, go to Facebook search, Close it now.
Speaker BThe group will come right up.
Speaker BJoin and I'll make sure that you are added and then all of those announcements will be in there.
Speaker BSo excited to have some bandwidth again.
Speaker BThe last several months of preparing for this event had definitely.
Speaker BThey just kept me covered up with.
Speaker BIt's a lot of work to host an event.
Speaker BIt was incredible.
Speaker BIt was transformational.
Speaker BAnd now it's time to get back into the regular swing of things.
Speaker BWhile we're planning, Relentless 2026 will be in spring of next year.
Speaker BWe're going to host it a little bit earlier in the year, probably late March, early April.
Speaker BThat way it'll give more of you.
Speaker BOne, you've got a year to plan now, so be watching.
Speaker BWe had a videographer at this one, so be watching for videos and you're gonna see a ton of stuff from the event, but it'll give you a year to plan.
Speaker BAnd we're gonna host it a little bit earlier in the year, so it's not gonna be bumping up against when the weather warms up.
Speaker BSo you don't have any excuses not to attend.
Speaker BThe power of sharpening the axe is exactly what it is.
Speaker BEven if you take three days out, three, four, five days out that you're not in the field selling, the amount that you're going to make up literally as soon as you get back will weigh more than pay for it.
Speaker BStop being lazy, stop using that as an excuse.
Speaker BIf your business can't function by a couple people being out of the field for a handful of days, we need to talk because that means that you don't have a business that functions without you.
Speaker BThat means you don't have, you need work on your systems and your budgeting and those types of things.
Speaker BThat is something that we do here at closeit.
Speaker BNow, we help companies with that, explode their growth, scale their systems and become that company worth buying from.
Speaker BSo reach out.
Speaker BWe can have a conversation about how we can help you.
Speaker BLet's build your war chest.
Speaker BLet's build your, build your systems in a way where you're generating revenue if you are there or not.
Speaker BIf your key members are there or not, we can still build in systems for this to happen.
Speaker BSo with all that being said, let's get into today's content.
Speaker BWe're starting with the.
Speaker BThis is this, of course, again, after all that.
Speaker BAgain, this is energetic listening.
Speaker BHow to hear what they are not saying.
Speaker BSo first of all, we've got to set a foundation here.
Speaker BOne of the things that you need to know is there's three levels of listening.
Speaker BYears and years and years ago, I was reading some books on life coaching and it was called coactive coaching.
Speaker BTherapists learn and psychiatrists, psychologists learn the different types of listening.
Speaker BThere's three levels of listening.
Speaker BSo we're going to go through that and we're going to start applying it in what we do.
Speaker BBecause you know me, I've said forever that maybe not forever forever, but since this podcast has started, sales is 90% psychology and 10% actual skill and, you know, taking orders.
Speaker BSo what does that mean?
Speaker BWell, there's, this is one of those things, three levels of listening.
Speaker BSo the first level is internal listening.
Speaker BIt's definitely very self focused.
Speaker BYou know, we're thinking about what to say next, how to get to pricing, we're thinking about how we're coming across.
Speaker BYou're in your head, you've left the conversation and you're stuck in your head thinking about all these things.
Speaker BSo one quick coaching tip here.
Speaker BAfter every call, you need to ask yourself, was I present in the situation?
Speaker BWas I present in the conversation or was I thinking about myself?
Speaker BA pitfall.
Speaker BAnd the reason so many beginners and amateurs get stuck on this and they're scared to ask better questions, they're scared to ask probing questions, they're scared to ask for the clothes.
Speaker BA lot of different things that they're, they're scared to say.
Speaker BLiterally fear enters into this conversation and that Gut feeling and all that is because they're focused on themselves.
Speaker BThey're focused on what will they think about me, which is the wrong mindset.
Speaker BWe have to.
Speaker BThe focus has to be how can I help them, how best can I help?
Speaker BAnd the only way we can help them is if they buy from us.
Speaker BWe can't do it for free.
Speaker BWe know their life is going to be better because of what we're doing for them.
Speaker BAnd the only way we can get them there is by asking the right questions to help them move out of their comfort zone.
Speaker BSo the focus has to be on them, not on you.
Speaker BSo that's level one listening.
Speaker BIt's worried about the words.
Speaker BWe're internal listening, we're thinking about that.
Speaker BAnd it keeps us kind of stuck in this.
Speaker BWe're not even present in the conversation.
Speaker BSo that's level one listening.
Speaker BLevel two listening, which is focused listening.
Speaker BSome people call it, you know, intentional listening.
Speaker BThere's a lot, several different terms for it.
Speaker BBut level two listening is we shift to fully tracking the client's words.
Speaker BWe're present in the conversation, we're asking good follow up questions, we're curious.
Speaker BWe're using tactical empathy, as Chris Voss likes to say it.
Speaker BWe're using rare listening skills, as Doug Wyatt likes to say it.
Speaker BWe're listening, we're slow down, we take a breath, we restate what they said.
Speaker BWe use mirrors.
Speaker BA lot of reflective listening and being very intentional about it.
Speaker BSo this feels better.
Speaker BBut we're still only hearing words, not the energy underneath the words.
Speaker BSo quick coaching tip for level two listening.
Speaker BLet's.
Speaker BSo when you run a call, make this your goal.
Speaker BRun a call where your only goal is to listen without solving the problem.
Speaker BLevel one listening.
Speaker BAnd especially coming a lot of you coming from, you know, we come from this technician background.
Speaker BOur goal is to listen and solve, listen and solve, listen and solve the problem.
Speaker BA lot of times we just need to listen with no agenda to solve the problem.
Speaker BWe're just listening to understand, not listening to respond.
Speaker BSo this is step two.
Speaker BNow let's get to step three and then I'm going to go back and we're going to talk about how they all work synergistically together.
Speaker BLevel three listening.
Speaker BThis is global listening.
Speaker BThis is listening between the lines.
Speaker BWe're listening for energy.
Speaker BWe're listening for environmental changes, environmental situations.
Speaker BThis is mastery.
Speaker BWe have to be able to zoom out, take the blinders off more than just why you're there and what's happening in the middle of the exact conversation.
Speaker BYou're having.
Speaker BAnd we have to start to track the entire conversations ecosystem.
Speaker BSo what is happening with breath?
Speaker BDid their breath speed up or slow down?
Speaker BWhat's happening with their tone?
Speaker BWhat changed?
Speaker BWhat's the pace?
Speaker BWhat's the tempo?
Speaker BWhat's the cadence?
Speaker BDid it change body posture?
Speaker BWe're looking for emotional shifts, subtle energy changes.
Speaker BWe don't rush.
Speaker BWe hold space for them.
Speaker BAnd we all know that this is a thing.
Speaker BThink about it like this.
Speaker BYou've all been in a situation, and I used this example, I think, a couple episodes ago.
Speaker BSay you're in the living room with your family in the evening, and maybe all are watching TV or playing a game or doing dinner, and somebody walks into the room.
Speaker BIf it's your spouse, if it's a kid, whoever it is, and everybody knows something's off.
Speaker BThey didn't say anything.
Speaker BNothing happened.
Speaker BYou can't even see it on their face.
Speaker BBut they walk into the room, and instantly you go, hey, what's wrong?
Speaker BAre you okay?
Speaker BHow did you know?
Speaker BBecause you could feel the energy difference in your loved one.
Speaker BSo that's a very specific, a very obvious example of what happens here.
Speaker BNow, we have to do this at the same time in our conversations with our clients, things that we learn in irl, in the real world, in all of the situations outside of our appointments.
Speaker BWhy do we write these stories in our brain that says none of that applies in our appointments?
Speaker BIt definitely applies into our appointments.
Speaker BSo we have to carry it forward into there.
Speaker BSo we don't rush.
Speaker BWe hold space.
Speaker BSo here's your coaching tip on this one.
Speaker BTo work, start working if you're already at level two.
Speaker BSo if you're only at level one, start with level two first and practice that and then systematically step in level three, and I'm going to give you a roadmap for how to get here.
Speaker BBut if you're already at level two, your coaching tip for how to enter and practice level three is in your next conversations, fill the rhythm.
Speaker BWhen did energy rise?
Speaker BWhen did it drop?
Speaker BWhat happened?
Speaker BElite listeners, elite reps don't just listen to the words.
Speaker BThey listen to the unspoken between the words.
Speaker BNow, here's the thing to remember.
Speaker BYou don't live in Level 3 all day, but power is recognizing when you are and aren't in sensing level 3 and being able to reset very quickly.
Speaker BSo now we're going to go through a roadmap of how to grow through all three levels before we do.
Speaker BOne thing that I want to touch on is there's not so Level two, level three.
Speaker BThere's not one that's better than the other.
Speaker BThey're both required to work together.
Speaker BThey have to synergistically work together.
Speaker BYou have to have level two.
Speaker BYou have to have these micro agreements along the way.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BAnd this is called bedside manner.
Speaker BWhen we think about doctors, the two equally brilliant doctors, you go to the doctor's appointment in medical, it's called bedside manner.
Speaker BIt's not the same term for cells, but it should be, except other that.
Speaker BI guess that could get a little creepy if we talk about bedside manner.
Speaker BBut this is the name for it.
Speaker BBut think about it like this.
Speaker BYou go to the doctor and two equally brilliant doctors, both masters of their craft, and one of them does a really great job of listening.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BHuh?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker BThen tell me more.
Speaker BAnd the other one is silent.
Speaker BThey ask a question, then just listen.
Speaker BDon't say anything.
Speaker BMake a couple notes, and just ask the next question, that second one.
Speaker BThis is the difference between why so many times we get a second opinion and don't.
Speaker BThe first one, when they engaged in the conversation, and it seemed like they were listening.
Speaker BNow, the second one may have listened just as well and taken in every bit of the information, but it didn't feel like it because they didn't interact or engage with you.
Speaker BThey didn't give you that.
Speaker BMm, yeah.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd tell me more about that.
Speaker BThose types of micro responses in your.
Speaker BAnd not to cut people off, but to when there's a lull in the conversation, you add those in.
Speaker BThe second one didn't.
Speaker BA lot of times we're turned off by that.
Speaker BWe call it bad bedside manner, and we'll get second opinion until we find the doctor that is engaged in the conversation.
Speaker BNow, again, they could both be equally brilliant.
Speaker BThe second one might even be better than the first doctor or surgeon, but because of his interaction with you, it didn't feel like it.
Speaker BNow, if that applies there, of course it applies in our appointments.
Speaker BSo this is really crucial.
Speaker BSo we have to have both level 2 and level 3 listening working conjunctively at the same time.
Speaker BAnd this is where true mastery starts to happen.
Speaker BSo let's get into the journey of mastering all the three levels of listening in order, because you can't just learn them all at once.
Speaker BYou've got to go through.
Speaker BYou've got to master each as you go, and then as you do, you're going to find you progress better and better over time.
Speaker BSo step one is simply noticing how often you're thinking about yourself, your script, or your Outcome awareness equals power to change.
Speaker BSo step one, start noticing how often you're thinking about, man, did I say the script right?
Speaker BWhat was the next step in the process?
Speaker BOh man, they just said that that means humidifier.
Speaker BThey just said that that means better air filter.
Speaker BThey said this, that means we're going to have to upgrade, you know, this.
Speaker BOkay, that's level one listening.
Speaker BNotice how often you're thinking about yourself.
Speaker BYour script or the outcome or products is something internally.
Speaker BOnce you are aware of it now, you can, you can program yourself to start to think.
Speaker BOkay, I need to shift into level two listening.
Speaker BSo stage two, this is focused listening.
Speaker BWe're going to do is you're going to shift your focus 100% to the buyer.
Speaker BSo this only happens when you have mastery of your process.
Speaker BSo basically elementary school is learning the script, learning the script and role play.
Speaker BThat doesn't mean you ever stop role playing.
Speaker BIt doesn't mean you ever stop mastering your script and getting better and better and better.
Speaker BBut once you have gotten to the place where you know it so well, you internalize that, you don't have to think about the script.
Speaker BThen you can start focusing on 100% on the buyer, which is how are they responding, what is happening, what are they saying?
Speaker BWe get to focus on level two so we stop rushing, we slow down, we stop trying to instantly fix the problem and we listen, we stay with their language, we get to modify what we're doing and to match their language.
Speaker BYou let yourself hear what they say before trying to solve.
Speaker BThat's a huge part of level two listening.
Speaker BIt's really focusing on them, not on you.
Speaker BYou've learned level one so well, you don't have to think about it at all.
Speaker BSo you can strictly focus on them.
Speaker BYou can focus on that conversation, you can focus on those micro agreements, you can focus on using mirrors and asking better questions and listening to understand, not listening to respond, then getting into level three.
Speaker BThis is where we start practicing the energetic listening, global listening, coactive listening.
Speaker BSo this is where mastery starts to really happen when you can over and you'll get incredible results if you only ever stay at level two.
Speaker BBecause most people have never really been listened at level 2.
Speaker BMost people are so self centered in society and life, they don't ever listen even at level two to listen to understand, they strictly listen to respond.
Speaker BSo and this is classic, you can go back, I mean Dr.
Speaker BStephen Covey was a master of this.
Speaker BThis is one of the principles of Seven habits of Highly Effective people is this type of Listening.
Speaker BEven before that, it's the classic if you've never read how to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie, it's a classic tenet in that book.
Speaker BAnd even before that, you know, old time.
Speaker BI've been really getting into stoicism lately.
Speaker BA lot of the old stoics, this was what the principles were was listening better listening to understand, not listening to respond.
Speaker BSo it's a tell as old as time that's been restated every few generations by a new voice.
Speaker BSaying it a little bit differently, but it's the same message that carries through.
Speaker BSo how do we get to level three?
Speaker BMastery happens here.
Speaker BSo we're going to start to read energy shifts.
Speaker BLike I mentioned, when you're in your home and you're hanging out with your family and somebody walks into the room, you instantly know something's wrong.
Speaker BIt's that being able to notice those types of energy shifts in a home during your appointment.
Speaker BTrust silence.
Speaker BWe've got to get used to and get comfortable with more silence.
Speaker BWe're going to lead without pushing.
Speaker BSo here is the coaching tip.
Speaker BHere's your challenge to start to work on this level.
Speaker BYou're going to run five calls where you start to track the emotional rhythm.
Speaker BWhat created tension?
Speaker BWhat calmed it?
Speaker BDid you hold space for it or did you rush through it?
Speaker BYou know what, this is where the deals start to close themselves.
Speaker BHave you ever had the ones that just.
Speaker BOh, man, they just.
Speaker BEverything went perfect and they asked for the sell.
Speaker BA lot of times this was hitting on all cylinders.
Speaker BThis is, this is some of the magic of why that happens.
Speaker BPeople that can do this on a regular basis, that's why you show up to their.
Speaker BYou do a ride along with them and they just don't get objections.
Speaker BOr if they do, they just move right through them with really no hesitation because they knew they were coming minutes before they ever showed up.
Speaker BSo the truth about mastery here, you're going to bounce back and forth between the levels.
Speaker BElite reps just recover faster.
Speaker BMastery is not perfection.
Speaker BIt's awareness and fast reset.
Speaker BThat is the difference.
Speaker BYou don't have to be perfect at this to attempt it and to continue to work on yourself.
Speaker BChoose to be 1% better than you are yesterday.
Speaker BBut mastery is awareness of it and being able to reset very quickly.
Speaker BSo I've got a challenge for you all.
Speaker BSo after every conversation and if you want to know more, of course I'm going to take a note out of Scott Sylvan Bell's book here, if you want to know more of course you can go to email me samoseitnow.net you can go join the email list, go to closeitnow.net and fill out the form and I'll put you on the email list.
Speaker BOr join the CloseItNow Facebook group.
Speaker BWe make announcements all the time.
Speaker BAt some point in time, I'm going to probably try to sell you something because that's how I stay in business.
Speaker BIf you want to know more about coaching, if you want to know more about how to get me to your company to do on site trainings, message me.
Speaker BThat's what we do.
Speaker BThat's how we help people.
Speaker BAnd just like you, I can't help you a lot of times if you don't buy something from me.
Speaker BBut it's okay.
Speaker BThis is a synergistic relationship.
Speaker BI give value, give value, give value on the podcast and in the Facebook group.
Speaker BAnd when you are ready, reach out because I'm here to help.
Speaker BSo want to get that disclaimer out there?
Speaker BBecause yes, there is.
Speaker BThere are times where I put offers out because just like you, I got to pay the bills too.
Speaker BAnd this is what I love about our community.
Speaker BEveryone understands that and it's not weird if we set the right expectation.
Speaker BI'm not here to tell you that everything I do will always be free, although I do a lot of free content.
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Speaker BSo let's get into some tools to develop your energetic listening one.
Speaker BThe first one is silence.
Speaker BStart using silence intentionally.
Speaker BEven in a recording like this, I literally could get quiet for a handful of seconds and it's going to create tension.
Speaker BCheck this out.
Speaker BNow if you're listening, you would have called that dead air.
Speaker BBut all of a sudden we have this anxiety and this.
Speaker BNot anxiety, but this anticipation.
Speaker BWhat in the heck is he going to say next?
Speaker BBecause there is a little bit of silence now in person, of course, or virtually if you're interacting with somebody.
Speaker BSilence can be insanely powerful.
Speaker BSo use it to your advantage.
Speaker BPractice sitting in silence longer than anyone feels comfortable.
Speaker BI did this at the event.
Speaker BIt was literally less than a minute and somebody dropped a pin because they couldn't handle the silence.
Speaker BIt instantly broke the silence.
Speaker BI was like, watch.
Speaker BI Bet we don't even last a couple minutes in this room.
Speaker BAnd sure enough, somebody broke the silence.
Speaker BSo you have to practice sitting in silence and getting comfortable with it.
Speaker BNumber two, start noticing micro signals.
Speaker BStart noticing those little changes in energy shift.
Speaker BThe tonality shifts when they're, you know, say, their mouth, you know, the side of their mouth moves a little bit, their eyes squinch, their face changes, their body language.
Speaker BStart noticing these things.
Speaker BNumber three, going to use the mirror and label technique.
Speaker BMirror and label technique.
Speaker BSo here's an example sentence, and I know that you'll understand it and take it forward and apply it to a lot of different things.
Speaker BSo it could be something like, I noticed something shifted when we talked about xyz.
Speaker BCan we revisit that?
Speaker BSo I noticed something shifted when we talked about your daughter's room.
Speaker BI noticed something shifted when we talked about how the, you know, when we talked about how the.
Speaker BHow something functions.
Speaker BI noticed something shifted when we were talking about your budget.
Speaker BI noticed something shifted when we were talking about what you're wanting to accomplish here.
Speaker BWhatever it is, just replace X with whatever the thing is.
Speaker BThe point is, notice the shift.
Speaker BI noticed something shifted when we talked about xyz.
Speaker BAnd don't do it.
Speaker BDon't, don't stop it right in the middle of that conversation.
Speaker BYou're going to use this tactically to your advantage.
Speaker BI noticed something shifted when we were talking about.
Speaker BCan we revisit that?
Speaker BIt expresses to them that you're listening, but listening at a much higher level, and they'll go back and revisit that.
Speaker BOh, you know what?
Speaker BYou're right.
Speaker BAnd so the big theme here is stay in service.
Speaker BYou know, buyers buy at the speed of safety.
Speaker BIf they don't feel safe, they won't buy.
Speaker BThat has to make sense, and it has to be a trusted, safe container.
Speaker BSo buyers buy at the speed of safety.
Speaker BSo those are.
Speaker BThat's the three levels of listening.
Speaker BYou have to be able to function in all of those levels.
Speaker BLevel one, consider it.
Speaker BLevel one is elementary.
Speaker BLevel two is junior high.
Speaker BLevel three is high school, or however you want to think about it.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter.
Speaker BBut level two and level three, you're going to bounce back and forth, and you're going to be using both at the same time.
Speaker BLevel one is your basics.
Speaker BYou got to learn the stuff.
Speaker BOnce you've learned your scripting so well that it's internalized and you've recited it, you can recite it at a moment's notice with no hesitation, without even Having to think about it, that is when you've got level one mastered, level two and level three, you will never have it mastered.
Speaker BIn fact, level one you can always improve on.
Speaker BBut level two and level three you've got to constantly work on.
Speaker BAnd they work together.
Speaker BYou have to be thinking and seeing the entire conversation through both of those lenses simultaneously.
Speaker BThat's where you reach mastery.
Speaker BSo the biggest shift, you must become a student of energy, not just words.
Speaker BStop listening to win.
Speaker BStart listening to lead.
Speaker BLet me say that again.
Speaker BStop listening to win the deal.
Speaker BStart listening to lead the people.
Speaker BAnd that is what mastery means.
Speaker BSo if this landed for you, share it with your team, share it with somebody.
Speaker BYou know that they could use this series, that this is the missing piece in their, in their sales and love for you to post your biggest takeaway.
Speaker BYou can, you can catch me on Instagram at therealcloseitnow or inside the Facebook group.
Speaker BMake sure to pop your takeaway from this episode and also if you got value from this, I'd love to hear your takeaway in a review on Apple podcasts and go over to Google and leave me a five star review on Google.
Speaker BSo five stars on Apple podcasts and on Google.
Speaker BYou'll find the links for that in the show notes.
Speaker BAnd the main thing is the journey to energy mastery continues.
Speaker BWe have two more sessions before we wrap this series up because there's so much to cover here.
Speaker BI'm literally smashing 20 years worth of learning into nine episodes.
Speaker BSo this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker BIf you want to know more about coaching with me one on one or having me out to your company or our company wide process where we scale companies then reach out.
Speaker BTalk to me about that.
Speaker BWe blow companies up.
Speaker BIt's such a different process than anybody else that you could possibly work with.
Speaker BI guarantee it.
Speaker BNo one else does what we do because we think differently than everyone else thinks.
Speaker BSo one of the things last thing I want to wrap up with is this is kind of the flow for this.
Speaker BI'm going to just recap it one more time just to make sure that you're on the right path.
Speaker BStep one is internal listening.
Speaker BSelf focus.
Speaker BYou're thinking about what to say next, how to get pricing across, how are you coming across?
Speaker BWhat are they thinking about me?
Speaker BThat's step one.
Speaker BAs fast as we can, you've got to get past that into focused listening.
Speaker BListening with intent, being present in the conversation, asking good follow up questions, giving the micro.
Speaker BYeah, it's the co active listening.
Speaker BYou're curious.
Speaker BNumber three is listening between the lines, listening to what is not being said, listening to the spaces and the pauses and the energy shift and level two and level three work together.
Speaker BSo that is the episode for today.
Speaker BI know that you've gotten some value from it.
Speaker BI learned as I'm putting these together, the best way for you to learn is to teach.
Speaker BSo reach out to me if you want to know more about the follow up program, the webinar that's coming up.
Speaker BIf you want to know more about the cell system webinar that's coming up, we're putting that together.
Speaker BBoth of those are going to be fire, I can guarantee it.
Speaker BAnd they're good.
Speaker BThey're going to be worth checking out because it will absolutely revolutionize the way that your company functions, where your team functions.
Speaker BAnd I'm so happy that you all have joined me on this podcast.
Speaker BI love every single one of you and I'm so grateful for all of you that have invested your time with me today and always do through the podcast.
Speaker BSo thanks for listening everybody.
Speaker BMake sure to go out there and be someone worth buying from.
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