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 Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Wedding Lounge podcast.

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 This week we are talking about social media and the pressure that couples are

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 facing nowadays when wanting to plan their wedding.

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 Yeah, I think so. I think there's so much.

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 All right. I mean, there's so much in our lives in general,

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 not just for a wedding, but in my own personal Instagram is

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 ridiculous. Let alone, in fact, I was getting married to trying to

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 complain myself to everything that comes up on your social media.

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 It's just bonkers and obviously we've like the algorithms of social media.

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 You look at something once and then it's, you know, all you see.

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 So I only have Instagram for my business. I didn't have it before.

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 Yeah, but I did years ago when it wasn't really a big thing and then never used it.

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 So I don't have a personal Instagram and then like a friend might send me a

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 reel to my business one about parenting, trick on it.

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 And then I see things sort of try not to look at non-wedding related things

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 on my Instagram account. Otherwise, then fills up my feed and not relevant things.

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 I mean, that is that's some discipline right there because that's why I have two separate ones.

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 Yes, because my work one is actually about it is just pure weddings.

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 Even then, the type of weddings that I'm seeing, I can only imagine what

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 couples are seeing a choir, how bonkers these and some of the weddings that you see

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 on social media are exactly that. They're their wilds and out there.

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 And I think it's really similar to Pinterest and we're going to do a more

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 episode on Pinterest as well, which is still quite wide to use.

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 Yeah, but there's a lot out there where it's staged.

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 Yes, or it's like even AI and AI, AI, AI, AI.

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 Or it's like a six-figure budget or, you know, it's social media influencers

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 who have managed to get quite a lot of stuff at a much lower cost to be able to

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 present something that is quite so spectacular.

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 And it's really hard to pick these things apart and actually work out what it is that you like about.

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 You don't see on social media normal weddings, like that sounds,

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 you know, normal wedding, that sounds quite derogatory, but you know what I mean?

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 Like a sort of average budget wedding, like those aren't what you see on Instagram.

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 No, they're not things that are pushed.

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 No, you're seeing the things that are ridiculously expensive.

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 And it's really hard for couples nowadays to be seeing all these.

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 And once, you know, I love that, I don't have the budget.

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 Yeah, I think there's no, I think it's the education around it.

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 Yeah, you need to be able to understand what is affordable

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 and what is not affordable within these six.

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 And I think that's where these like videos and things fall down,

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 is that they could be hang on there.

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 This was X amount.

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 It took four days to put together, you know, it's things like that.

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 The people just look at pretty picture on this thing.

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 It's the same with, I mean, it goes down to one of the big trends

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 that's been going on this year and towards the end of last year

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 is all the ruffled tablecloths.

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 Yes, yeah, which is stunning.

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 And it looks really, really cool.

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 You need 10 times the amount of tablecloths.

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 Or you need a specific type of tablecloth, which is really hard to get hold of.

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 What you need to make it yourself.

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 It's doable.

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 You just need to know what the options are.

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 Do you think, though, as well?

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 Not only do you get everything pushed to you through the algorithm,

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 but at a phase of your life where you're getting married,

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 all your friends are getting married as well.

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 All you see on other people's posts is everyone else's weddings.

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 When we had our episode with our husbands,

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 we fell into this trap and that was, you know, 12 years ago.

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 So-and-so's wedding, so-and-so's wedding, X, Y, Z's wedding.

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 It's time to get.

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 You can pass them all around the same time.

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 It's now.

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 Everyone posts images on social media.

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 You've got all those images.

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 So look at it as well.

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 So it's really hard to kind of understand what you want from your own wedding.

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 When you're able to see it for an else's weddings,

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 it's going on around you as well.

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 I think it's, you know, not only financially,

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 is it confusing to see what's going on,

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 it's hard to sort of, as I say, sort of like get through the noise

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 and see what actually is about you too.

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 And not what's just happening at the time.

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 We've spoken about trends before.

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 About not just within a champagne tariff, it's not you.

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 You know, making your day about yourself.

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 Your comes up on my algorithm all the time on my work run.

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 Diet Coke towers.

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 I wonder why I can do that.

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 I wonder why I can do that.

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 Diet Coke wedding cakes and like a diet Coke table.

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 It's just been also.

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 You've got to think like what's important to you?

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 Like getting married, having a brilliant day with your friends and family

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 or creating something.

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 Because it's going to look good on Instagram.

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 then you need to stick with that.

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 I ask my clients in my initial consultation

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 about weddings they've been to in the past and things they love

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 and things they've been to about those weddings.

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 it's quite important for you to do the same when you sit down together.

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 If I had the budget, I would have had like a beautiful one,

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 or something like a, you know, black tie event.

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 I would have had our rustic till one.

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 I would have got married on a beach somewhere.

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 or imagine Italy and have lemons.

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 If you've got all these ideas, but they don't all go.

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 There's two florists who recommended venue.

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 I still have my Pinterest board saved.

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 I have my Pinterest board saved.

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 We're not for wedding inspiration.

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 Like, there's no point looking at Holly Clark's photos,

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 And your wedding is the best that you can have and want to have.

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 Like, when you're sitting there doing scrolling the evenings,

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 you just got to remember that this is your day for you.

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 by what you're seeing on social media and the comparisons you're seeing,

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 you know, it's easier said than it is.

247
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 But it's in all aspects, as we said at the beginning,

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 all aspects of life, you know,

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 comparing social media.

250
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 It's just, fortunately, how we are at the moment.

251
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 But I think people are moving away.

252
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 I think the self-esteem of lots sort of being focused on people's mental health.

253
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 I think we've realised how it's not.

254
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 Yeah. It's not, and it's not all it's right.

255
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 It's not what it's cracked up to be.

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 You see a snippet of someone's day and that might be the first one.

257
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 What's it we were talking to?

258
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 I'm sure it was on the podcast.

259
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 We were talking to someone who said that they had their day filmed

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 and they looked miserable through the whole thing

261
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 and nothing went the way that they wanted

262
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 because they were so focused on the style and the aesthetic.

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 I can't remember who.

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 And they were so focused on the comparables

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 of their wedding to other peoples.

266
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 Yeah.

267
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 There was no nice photos of them.

268
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 Yeah.

269
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 Because they were just so upset and miserable

270
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 because nothing was perfect.

271
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 Yeah.

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 Some of these, it rained on their wedding day.

273
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 I can't remember exactly sorry.

274
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 That's a pretty rubbish.

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 But I remember at my wedding,

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 like it was everything I wanted and more.

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 Now I've been in the industry for so long

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 and it's, you know, eight years later.

279
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 I know that, oh my gosh, I would have done this.

280
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 So I compared back and I just need to do it again

281
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 when I've got a bigger budget.

282
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 Yeah.

283
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 And things like that.

284
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 But, you know, at the time,

285
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 you've got to really just focus on YouTube and what you want.

286
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 Yeah, I agree.

287
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 And I also think there's such a thing

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 on weddings being timeless.

289
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 Yeah.

290
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 I don't agree with this.

291
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 Yeah.

292
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 You think you chose to get married

293
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 in the year you chose to get married in.

294
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 Your wedding is going to fit within that year.

295
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 Like you cannot help there being subtle trends

296
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 and subtle things.

297
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 You know, bridal styles changed,

298
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 groomed styles changed,

299
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 care styles changed, how you look changing.

300
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 Yeah.

301
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 And I think that wedding should capture that moment.

302
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 Yeah.

303
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 In your lives.

304
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 But you can't look back on it in 15 years time

305
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 and it still looked timeless.

306
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 Like it just isn't possible.

307
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 This goal is trying to achieve a timeless wedding.

308
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 Yeah.

309
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 Doesn't happen.

310
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 I agree with you.

311
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 I also, I sort of view timeless.

312
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 Like when I use the word timeless,

313
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 I think more of reflecting you as a couple

314
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 not necessarily what's just trendier.

315
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 I view it as like making a timeless wedding

316
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 as in one that just truly reflects you.

317
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 Yes, there will be elements that are dated,

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 like bridal styles.

319
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 Yeah.

320
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 But as in timeless, not just

321
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 I want to trend wedding.

322
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 Yeah, as in I don't, but I hate champagne.

323
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 But just because it's trendy,

324
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 I'm going to do champagne tower.

325
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 Well, if you have a champagne tower now

326
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 and because you love champagne

327
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 and that just fits your personality

328
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 but in 15 years time,

329
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 people have moved on to something else.

330
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 Still think that wedding is timeless

331
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 because it was, you say,

332
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 it captures you at the time.

333
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 I think of timeless as more as like

334
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 anti just following trends, but safe fit.

335
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 Yes.

336
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 But I agree it's not timeless

337
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 because it's capturing a moment in your time,

338
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 but as long as it reflects your time at that time.

339
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 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

340
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 And that's why you switched.

341
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 That's the same.

342
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 Better.

343
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 No, I don't.

344
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 No, it's just, yeah.

345
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 I guess people have different.

346
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 We do throw the word timeless around a lot.

347
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 Yeah.

348
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 But I think we tend to get people

349
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 with our clients who aren't necessarily

350
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 trend setters or trend followers.

351
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 You're getting married at home,

352
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 they're doing something

353
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 or either a lot of styles as well.

354
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 No, which is why, I guess,

355
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 I kind of think I do timeless weddings

356
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 because it's more just what reflects the cuff,

357
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 whether it's in trend or not.

358
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 I like that.

359
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 I like the way you use the word timeless.

360
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 It's very different from the way I use it.

361
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 I do agree.

362
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 It's like capturing a moment in time from their lives.

363
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 So yeah, basically,

364
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 when you're using social media,

365
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 you know, our top tip is to make sure that

366
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 while it's helpful, use it,

367
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 but as soon as it's not coming helpful

368
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 and it's becoming a bit overwhelming,

369
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 let's step away.

370
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 Step away if you can set time limits

371
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 for when you're going to look at social media

372
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 and then go, right, no,

373
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 I'm going to go out for a run now

374
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 or I'm going to have my dinner.

375
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 Something just to take your mind off it.

376
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 So you're not just in that downward spiral.

377
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 100%.

378
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 We had a really interesting question

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 from a listener that we kind of wanted to share.

380
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 Oh, you didn't get around to it.

381
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 I don't know.

382
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 No, no.

383
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 So I think now will be quite a good time to do that.

384
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 And the question was,

385
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 what do you wish more couples

386
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 ask before booking a plan on?

387
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 Oh, now I have had a thought about this.

388
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 And so me, I think the main thing is

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 is how the process actually works with a plan.

390
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 Because obviously we plan loads of weddings

391
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 or you know what the process is,

392
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 but a lot of people haven't even got married

393
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 so they don't know the ins and outs.

394
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 No.

395
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 I mean, as I know you do,

396
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 you know, I try to explain the process

397
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 how things happen as in

398
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 I would research the players,

399
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 give them a few options,

400
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 expectra like that.

401
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 But also I find that you can't sit down

402
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 and I had a conversation with another plan

403
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 of recently about this.

404
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 You can't sit down and literally list

405
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 every single sort of expectation.

406
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 Because otherwise it would be so overwhelming

407
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 for the couple.

408
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 If you sat there and said,

409
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 you will tell me like

410
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 the exact wording you want on the invitation

411
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 wants to give you some options.

412
00:16:03,785 --> 00:16:05,385
 You will write the envelopes

413
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 and post them.

414
00:16:06,265 --> 00:16:08,665
 I will track the RSVPs,

415
00:16:08,665 --> 00:16:10,025
 but then you have to chase your guess

416
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 if they're not RSVP'd.

417
00:16:11,625 --> 00:16:14,985
 I will put out lawn games

418
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 that you have purchased from Amazon,

419
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 but you need to buy them.

420
00:16:17,545 --> 00:16:19,065
 You know, but if you literally sat,

421
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 I went to every minute part of wedding planning

422
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 in that much detail of who's doing what.

423
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 I don't think you can really client.

424
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 No.

425
00:16:26,505 --> 00:16:29,865
 But I do think that just trying

426
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 to maybe, before you book a plan,

427
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 to find out how they work,

428
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 what their working hours are,

429
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 whether they're able to have like a spreadsheet,

430
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 whether you want email updates every week,

431
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 maybe just find out a little bit more about how it.

432
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 So I think it's really good to have an understanding

433
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 of how you want to work as a couple.

434
00:16:46,985 --> 00:16:49,785
 Because I like what you guys want to do,

435
00:16:46,985 --> 00:16:46,985
 Yes.

436
00:16:49,785 --> 00:16:51,785
 are you the type of people that just

437
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 are off an email at 11 o'clock at night?

438
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 Or are you the kind of people that want to have a regular call

439
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 and you start everything in that type of thing?

440
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 I think setting the expectations and the boundaries,

441
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 and then you can understand where your plan,

442
00:17:03,705 --> 00:17:04,905
 the way your plan works.

443
00:17:04,905 --> 00:17:05,625
 Yeah, as well.

444
00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:06,745
 Or find a common ground.

445
00:17:06,745 --> 00:17:07,385
 Exactly.

446
00:17:07,385 --> 00:17:08,745
 Because, you know, it's fine.

447
00:17:08,745 --> 00:17:11,385
 I don't mind receiving an email at 11 o'clock at night,

448
00:17:11,385 --> 00:17:14,745
 but I would not respond to it until I'm then at my desk

449
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 and I have all the information in front of me.

450
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 I'm not back on my sleep by 11 o'clock.

451
00:17:18,505 --> 00:17:19,705
 And it's the same thing too.

452
00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:21,945
 It's not, it's the same on WhatsApp as well.

453
00:17:21,945 --> 00:17:24,985
 Like I do communicate via WhatsApp with my clients.

454
00:17:24,985 --> 00:17:26,825
 Again, it's when I'm sitting at my desk.

455
00:17:26,825 --> 00:17:27,305
 Yes.

456
00:17:27,305 --> 00:17:28,825
 I respond from my computer.

457
00:17:28,825 --> 00:17:30,185
 What's your computer?

458
00:17:30,185 --> 00:17:31,225
 It's a great thing.

459
00:17:31,225 --> 00:17:35,145
 The other thing I think that clients, I find,

460
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 is they're very, and it's a tricky subject,

461
00:17:38,425 --> 00:17:40,185
 so get that, every fairy about a budget.

462
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 A hundred percent.

463
00:17:41,225 --> 00:17:48,585
 And go into most wedding plans with an issue idea of budget,

464
00:17:48,585 --> 00:17:52,025
 but no actual set budget.

465
00:17:52,025 --> 00:17:58,425
 And I think couples really, you want to know what your plan is.

466
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 Where's your limit?

467
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 Where can your bank account take you to?

468
00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:03,225
 That's so-

469
00:18:03,225 --> 00:18:04,505
 And doesn't match your ideas.

470
00:18:04,505 --> 00:18:06,345
 This is back to the social media thing.

471
00:18:06,345 --> 00:18:07,785
 You see things on social media,

472
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 and we've got to manage those expectations.

473
00:18:10,185 --> 00:18:12,345
 And I had a chat with them a supply of the other day,

474
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 and I said, it's really hard,

475
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 because you want to manage the expectations.

476
00:18:14,745 --> 00:18:16,345
 It's about my shit on their parade.

477
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:19,225
 You're trying to, you know, I'm not here to go.

478
00:18:19,225 --> 00:18:20,665
 Sorry, you can't afford that.

479
00:18:20,665 --> 00:18:21,785
 No, you can't afford that.

480
00:18:21,785 --> 00:18:23,945
 You want to give them what they want,

481
00:18:23,945 --> 00:18:26,905
 but it's trying to do that within their budget.

482
00:18:26,905 --> 00:18:29,785
 Yeah. So definitely, I think that was a really good question,

483
00:18:29,785 --> 00:18:32,425
 and I think just having a better idea of budget

484
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 before you book a planner and also have a willingness

485
00:18:35,945 --> 00:18:37,225
 to try and understand how it works,

486
00:18:37,225 --> 00:18:39,625
 and find out whether that planner is right for you, exactly.

487
00:18:39,625 --> 00:18:42,185
 And next week, we are joined by another really lovely guest.

488
00:18:42,185 --> 00:18:43,865
 We're joined by the lovely Nicolette,

489
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 who is a singer and a pianist.

490
00:18:45,865 --> 00:18:47,945
 We look forward to speaking to you then.

491
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 Right, bye.