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greetings and welcome to the talk with

History Podcast I am your host Scott

here with my wife and historian Jen

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on this podcast we talk about history's

continuing impact on us and our personal

journey through YouTube as we continue

to explore record and share our history

walks with you

but now before we get into our main

topic today Jan I want to lead off with

our some of our five star reviews of the

week

so we did get a couple of five star

reviews now folks listening may not

realize this but it's been probably

about a month we took about a month off

around Thanksgiving yeah I think it's

appropriate with doing this video too on

this subject because I don't know if

people realize that you are active duty

military

and I was that's how we met and so we

moved very often and because of that

movement when holidays come around

sometimes it's really just inclusive of

us to make the holidays happen for our

family

so we have to sometimes take a break

to make sure that uh you know things at

home are being taken care of like a

Thanksgiving holiday for yeah absolutely

so so the holidays get busy for us with

uh being being military but in that

month we got two five-star reviews uh

one from someone I've known since I was

very young and one from someone I

believe that we've met most recently so

the the first five star review is from

patty1835. she said about the Halloween

episode she said so fun and interesting

maybe next Halloween you can do an

episode on the famous radio broadcast of

the War of the Worlds which I think

would be a very interesting topic yes

that show was so realistic and it cost

mass panic you have an alien invasion

which I believe was part of why it's

it's so Infamous the second five star

review is from Doug

mcel52 I believe we know who this is and

it was about the I Love Lucy episode he

said I Love Lucy too thank you for

another insightful episode I learned so

much about Lucy and Desi that I did not

know so thank you to those who are

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where we interview folks while chatting

about history over a couple of drinks

and we let the conversation wander where

it may

thank you

now there are a lot of cemeteries with

famous people buried in them and we've

covered a small portion of them

and we've discovered that there's so

much history and a lifetime of stories

to be told but

I will venture to say that none of these

sacred places hold the Common Ground

among all Americans that Arlington

National Cemetery does

for our walk with history YouTube

subscribers this video really needs no

introduction as it's our most popular

video and as of recording this podcast

it has around 53 000 views so Jen why

don't you tell any of our listeners who

haven't seen this video yet how

Arlington came about for us

so this video is on Arlington National

Cemetery and for us it was just really

important for me

to do this video because it all started

with Maureen O'Hara

I was wanting to see what her grave

looked like and I knew she was buried in

Arlington because she had been married

to a brigadier general in the Air Force

and I had looked on YouTube to see if

anyone had been to her grave and no one

had been to her grave yeah and and for

the for the audience too if you step

back if you've listened to some of our

past episodes this may have come up but

Jen likes Maureen O'Hara the old movie I

like Classic Movies she loves the

classic movies but largely because of

John Wayne yes I'm a big John Wayne fan

Jan you were a huge John Wayne fan

largely influenced by your father and

you know John Wayne is John Wayne almost

everybody knows John yes not as many

people know Maureen O'Hara that at least

not I would I'll say in my generation

sure but if you're a huge John Wayne fan

yeah Maureen O'Hara actually did quite a

few movies with him yeah she was I mean

he was her favorite co-star she says

like and he loved working with her as

well

um made lots of movies with John Ford

and they're known for that famous movie

The Quiet Man together

um most people remember Maureen O'Hara

from Miracle on 34th Street she plays

the mother she's also in The Parent Trap

the original

and she's in that as well so most people

will remember her if they don't know her

within the John Wayne so so that's

really where the Genesis of yeah hey

we're we're near yes we were going to be

in DC yes we were going to visit family

yes and so we brought we we made a point

to say let's do a day in Arlington

and we thought oh we'll get this done

with the family it'll be so easy we'll

get in there

six or six other people yeah am i

counting that right no five six yeah

with us five of us so eleven six others

so eleven all together right and no

first of all what you need to know about

Arlington is um you can't drive in

Arlington you can take the tram you can

pay the ticket the money to take the

tram and the tram has a very

um

localized route it'll take you to the

Tomb of the Unknown it'll take you

around some more famous Graves but it's

not going to go off Route and so if you

want to I mean Arlington is

639 Acres there's 400 000 people buried

there so if you want to like see

something in particular like us you've

got to get ready to do some walking you

have to be ready ahead of time and

that's the one thing right and holding

true to to what we're trying to do on

this podcast of talking a little bit

about behind the scenes right we're

doing this with our family yes you know

visiting we're kind of making the

YouTube channel work at the same time as

trying to carry out life yes we were

like oh yeah we'll be fine doing it with

the whole family and and we've we come

to find out like man this place is

massive we gotta take trams you know

we've got kids and your mom and US

walking around and figuring all this

stuff out so we decided we did like one

or two graves and then we said let's

just do this you and I well my mom had

offered to watch the kids for us the day

we said let's we'll come back to

Arlington and we'll do it so what was

the first what's the first grave we're

going to talk about uh well I want to

give a little background about Arlington

first and then get more into the graves

we're going to talk about but um this

first video was very important on people

who were influencing that I thought were

big movie influencers and who influenced

me in my military career so that's kind

of the twofold of what it is but I also

give some history on Arlington because

sometimes people don't know the whole

story and so Arlington Cemetery

was really Robert E Lee's home before

the Civil War he had married Marianne

custis Lee who was the great

granddaughter of Martha Washington with

her first husband Daniel custis and when

she marries George Washington he

basically adopts her children and

then of course his he he adopts her

children and then they inherit his land

he his grandson has the money to buy

Arlington build Arlington then leaves it

to his daughter and that's just so

George Washington's grandson yes okay

and that's who he leaves it to his

daughter who's Marianne custis who

marries Robert E Lee

so that's kind of how this all starts

right and so then

the Civil War happens and he leaves

right away he lives in uh 1961 in in May

and she's told pretty quickly that the

union is going to come and start taking

property

outside of DC just to occupy it at this

time it's not even thinking of a

cemetery so she buries a lot of her

possessions in the yard

and takes a lot of her possessions with

her and then within a month the troops

the union troops have taken Arlington by

May 24th

so

it's on May 14th that one of her

enslaved women women

um Selena Gray

takes a lot of things that are of George

Washington's possessions and one of them

is the tent and we talk about the 10th

that's at the Revolutionary War Museum

we have that because of Selena gray so

she had some forethought to save a lot

of heirlooms and that we we have heard a

thing for that

so then what happens is there's a army

quartermaster named Megs who goes to

school with Lee and he joins the union

and he's so mad that Lee has gone with

the Confederacy that he's put in charge

of finding land for federal cemeteries

because

by this time in the war it's been three

years they don't they didn't think it

was going to go on for this long they

basically have started filling up all

the federal cemeteries in D.C with Civil

War dead

so this is 1964. this is three years

later and he's like Arlington is prime

location

he's gonna Stick it to his old buddy

yeah he's like really mad and I'll tell

you why how he does it too he buries the

first body in the garden because he

knows that that's where Marianne custis

Lee's favorite spot is so the first

person buried in Arlington is William

Henry Cushman and he's 19 years old he

dies in the measles and we've talked

about this before that most people in

the civil war will die from disease and

he buries him right in the garden man

that's like this so that was such an

interesting fact to me of like this

here's this guy who's holding The Grudge

again someone that like he knew for a

long time right respected respected and

all that stuff and it was so mad that he

joined the other side he's like okay

this is this is my way to get to get

back at him I don't want you coming back

here I don't think you deserve this I

don't think you deserve to be in this

country and so much so that I'm gonna

make it so

your favorite spots will be taken over

I'm gonna start bearing bodies in your

yard yep and that's basically what

happened so that's how Arlington becomes

a National Cemetery

so just to give some backgrounds just so

people understand where where the word

Arlington comes from it's it's actually

um why is there a house in Arlington

National City right yeah it looks like a

big home it's called Arlington House yes

that's where they lived yes it was it

was

um Mary Ann custis Lee's father who

builds the home uh names it for

Arlington glassdier England because

that's where their ancestral family is

from yeah and if you've never been to

Arlington National Cemetery if you get

up to Arlington House which is I think

the highest point yeah you can look down

Cemetery you can see the Washington

Monument you can see all over DC I mean

it's a it's a you talk about prime

location it's a beautiful view it's a

beautiful spot

um and not only because of the nowadays

setting but you can see the mall you can

see all that stuff so it's it's pretty

neat being there yeah so

so that's why

um

Arlington National Cemetery has become

it became a cemetery and that's why most

of the bodies that are there are going

to be from Civil War on

so you're not going to have older

military conflicts buried there

now there are older bodies there I think

some of the

family of the Lee family of the custis

family are buried there because they had

died there and also anybody who was

enslaved by the leaves could be buried

there as well so there's a whole section

to the enslaved of their family that is

actual is actually buried there as well

but so that is how Arlington now is the

national cemetery of the United States

and I when we went there one of the

first people I wanted to find was Kara

holtgreen and Carol holtgreen was

important to me because as a midshipman

of Penn State I had read her book call

sign Revlon now Carol holgreen was

buried much more recently yes she

because she dies in 1994. she's the

first Naval aviator

um fighter pilot female

so for me it was very inspirational

she's the first female to qualify in an

F-14

and what happens is she she actually

crashes her F-14 on the USS Abraham

Lincoln off the coast of San Diego

it's it's one of those things that she

stalls out and as

they're ejecting her co-pilot her nfo is

fine but just like I think it was like

point

one second the plane had rolled to such

a degree that she ejects into the ocean

and she dies instantly yeah there was

there was a cool you actually can find

right as I was making the video I could

find some news Clips because when

there's usually there's a first of

anybody doing anything in the military

she was interviewing some interviews and

some coverage and we I found out through

you that her call sign was Revlon yes

because she wore makeup she wore makeup

um and so I thought that was really

interesting and it was cool to to go and

see that yeah and there was there's a

lot of controversy around her crash

right people like and you can imagine 60

Minutes at a whole special or women how

did she get where she was yeah

you know all sorts all sorts of stuff

and it's that's gonna

stuff like that for those who aren't

familiar with the military like we are

stuff like that's going to come up

regardless of how amazing you are or how

bad you are exactly

um so but it was cool just to go because

she was a huge influencer yes and I had

never been there so for me it was neat

you'll see me actually like salute her

grave in the video because I'm just very

inspired by her

the other grave we could so because we

go to Marina O'Hara

I was looking up other people kind of

related to her movies and I had found

that Lee Marvin was buried in Arlington

and I loved Lee Marvin I really only had

known him from The Man Who Shot Liberty

Valance and that is an amazing John

Wayne movie Jimmy Stewart John Wayne Lee

Marvin black and white John John Ford

directed it it's one of those movies

that really makes you think about

there is a time when you do need someone

to fight yeah there is a time when it's

not going to be enough to just be smart

and know the words and know the law

there is going to be somebody sometime

who has to actually fight so so if if

people don't know that movie you'd give

us like a one or two sentence overview

you have John Wayne old Gunslinger who's

trying to make it on the frontier and

you have Jimmy Stewart who comes into

town who's a lawyer and he wants to

bring the law to like a lawless

a rural area out in the west somewhere

that hasn't even found statehood yet Lee

Marvin plays the antagonist the huge

antagonist he's Liberty Valance he's

like this bad guy who just as you can

imagine the old west just comes in and

terrorizes everybody and people just pay

him off or do whatever it takes to get

him away do I am I remembering right

that he did he get nominated for an

award for this not for this but he went

to the movie In general the movie in

general yes um best picture yeah and

because it's shot in black and white

John Ford makes a point to shoot it in

black and white even though this is way

past color you know um but because he

wants that kind of grittiness

but you have in the end Jimmy Stewart is

trying to prove a point that he can take

down this guy with just being smart he

can take down this guy just being you

know using books and stuff and and

Liberty Balance is having none of it

challenges him to a shootout yeah and in

the I mean you have to watch it I want

to give it away the end has a pretty

good twist yeah and the one thing I will

say and then we'll get into the kind of

gravesite itself

um again as someone who was not familiar

with this movie and who's not as huge

fan as old movies as you are right

um but it's making this video if you're

listening to this podcast and you've

never seen some of these old movies I

would encourage you to see if you can

find them streaming somewhere or rent it

for a night because these old movies the

one thing that I realized is I've

covered folks like Jimmy Stewart and

John Wayne and some of these these

actors right

um

they can't cover up a movie with special

effects with you know music that's super

catchy you know or whatever like this is

just acting in its kind of golden age

yes and the acting that I see even in

just finding clips for these movies

absolutely blows me away yes I mean he

was fantastic and he went on to have a

very long and and storied Hollywood

career absolutely I always say there's

few people that can hold their own

against John Wayne as a and Jimmy

Stewart and Jimmy Stewart as an

antagonist yeah and Lee Marvin does it

yeah he and I haven't seen anyone who

can really pull it off quite like he

does in this movie yeah yeah he he was

fantastic and I was just again this

happens to me multiple times I guess I

should stop being surprised I'm looking

up these old Super Famous super you know

decorated actors

um and actresses and just seeing how

amazing they are yeah so that's a movie

that I encourage folks to look up

because Lee Marvin's gravesite was

pretty cool it was pretty cool and you

know his so

so the section and then it gives you the

grave number and Lee Marvin's I got to

the section I'm looking to get the

numbers and they're not in order and I'm

looking all around I'm looking all

around and then there's a very famous

grave in that section of Joe Lewis which

doesn't look like the other white Graves

it's actually a different color and it's

bigger and Lee Marvin's is actually

right beside Joe Lewis yeah so I was

like oh there it is not in sequential

order at all

um so that so it was easy to find in

that regard but hard to find because

it's not in the order it should be

but he was a Marine

and that's why he's in Arlington

National Cemetery he was a Marine in

World War II he is in the Battle of

Saipan on June 18 1944 and he gets

machine gun fire that severs his sciatic

nerve basically he's shot in the

buttocks like uh Forrest Gump and he

spends a year in a military hospital so

he gets the purple heart as well and

it's after that that he decides to go

into acting and he gets best actor in

1965. that's the clip we use in the in

the video for Cat Ballou which is also

like a western and he plays a dual

character so he's playing two different

parts and I think people were just

really impressed with his acting and

that's I mean he wins best actor which

is pretty big deal uh he's actually

named in honor of Robert E Lee is he

really yeah I don't think I knew that

it's like his first cousin

twice removed or third removed or

something like that but he dies of a

heart attack in 1987. he's 63 years old

and he's buried in section 7A

so that's the same section as uh Joe

Lewis yeah yeah again uh a decorated he

said marine marine decorate a marine who

decides to like oh yeah I'm gonna go

into acting and just then knocks it out

of the park in acting yeah and people I

mean people like Lee Marvin for like the

dirty dozen he's known for a lot of

different things yeah there's some old

war movies uh that he's in that that are

actually more famous than the man who

shot Elizabeth yeah but that's what I

know him yeah yeah

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um one of the graves that we go to there

that's what's interesting about

Arlington to kind of go off is you don't

really allowed to put a lot of things

there they're allowed to stay permanent

so they don't really allow Flags there

they only allow flags on Memorial Day

and they'll put a flag on every grave

but um They Don't Really allow

stationary flowers

they usually remove those things they

don't really allow I think they allow

wreaths for Christmas but one person

who's allowed to have flowers all the

time is Audie Murphy

really yes so that's another he's the

only one that's allowed yes I think

sometimes and maybe some the John F

Kennedy that's just because of how

decorated he was because of how

decorated okay so so tell us who Audie

Murphy is so Audie Murphy is actually

the second most visited visited

gravesite behind JFK wow yeah I don't

think I knew that and his is I mean it's

it's there's lots of stuff there but

it's small it's it's not like so like I

told you Joe Lewis will have a different

grave it's bigger other people might

have different Graves I think Ruth Bader

Ginsburg has like a big black Marvel

grave Audie Murphy just has a white

pillar like most of the other Graves

there and he is considered the most

decorated soldier of World War II

now there's some debate about that after

I had said that in the video people had

some debate about that so it is a couple

other people but he's one of them or if

not

he's known for uh they've actually made

a

walkway to his grave since it's so

visited it's on the tram tour it'll have

flowers there you'll be able to pick it

out what's interesting about his grave

though is he's a Medal of Honor

recipient and there was a time when they

replaced all of the metal on a recipient

Graves with gold leaf and he he had told

his family

that he doesn't want anything special

about his grave so when they asked his

family if they could replace it they

said no so even it says Medal of Honor

It Is Not Gold leafed or anything he

said he didn't want to stand out yeah he

did some movie stuff too right so yeah

so he he actually was in like 47 films

he had a 21-year movie career but

what is interesting about Audie Murphy

is he

lies about his age and he's too thin to

get into the Navy and the Air Force and

the Marine Corps he's very like Captain

America yeah and then he's finally

accepted by the Army that's crazy it's

crazy and so then what he does like his

most famous

when he when he receives the Medal of

Honor it's in 1945 he holds back six

tanks on his own he tells his company to

to take cover and he holds off these six

tanks for an hour and he does this I

think he had just turned 19 years old oh

my gosh can you imagine just turned 19

years old and he does this and this is

what this is how he um he's awarded the

Medal of Honor but he has tons of I mean

he has I think I go into all the awards

he has received in the military and

they're all on his not all of them are

on this the stone but a bunch of them uh

but yeah he so he has this movie career

he comes back he processes his PTSD

through movies he does like The Red

Badge of Courage he does to Helen Back

and those are military movies

um I think to hell and back is about his

about himself it's about his story but

most of his movies are Westerns

that's kind of what he does a lot of and

he

dies in a plane crash unfortunately in

1971 right before he turns 46 years old

so yeah and like I said he uh trying to

think he was filming his last film it's

called the time for dying so it's

actually very ominous

but um yeah that's Audie Murphy like

he's like I said most people know him

from movies most people know him

actually as the most decorated soldier

of World War II and he's again the

second most visited his grave it's kind

of convenient I use that word Loosely

because it's right across from the um

two in the Unknown Soldier yeah his was

much easier to find but again it's it's

one of the like I think it's literally

probably marked as one of like the

popular Graves that's on like visitor

stuff there right it's the [ __ ] stops

there yes

um it's pointed out it's it's pointed

out it's it's very clear it's a lot of

people and and again my own ignorance

here I had no idea who he was I had I

had no clue my mom like people mostly

know from the movies yeah because like

he made a movie about his life so people

know yeah he played himself played

himself so people know him from the

movies

but

I'd say right down the hill was it kind

of down the hill from the Tomb of the

Unknown was Maureen O'Hara or was she

down the hill from Arlington House

no it was down the hill from a too many

unknown soldier it was in that area yes

so mourin O'Hara is who we came to see

yeah and when I even got there it looked

like no one even knew she was there I

wanted to like yell out to people this

is Maureen O'Hara like to me it was like

how do people not know she's right here

now her stone is a little bigger right

and she's not it's not I mean it's it's

hers but she shares it with her husband

her husband's first and she's buried

there because because of him right so if

you are married or a child

and I think a child not quite of age you

can be buried at Arlington Cemetery so

the Arlington Cemetery is not just open

for service members it's open for

service members and her husband was what

like a two or three star he was a

brigadier general in the Air Force and

and he was actually her second husband

her second and his third yeah and

um they met in 1971 he dies in 1978 he's

69 when he dies so he was probably what

62

62 when they got married yeah I mean

yeah you're doing the math I trust you

yeah a public math so I mean they marry

late in life yeah right but she says

he's the love of her life and she will

forever miss him and it's just a merry

after him

and no I think you're right I think he's

her third

and I think

she's his third I think it's both the

thirds and didn't you say I think you

say this in the video too that like she

always said that he was who John Wayne

yes pretended to be so she always said

that she said I married the man that

John Wayne pretended to be in movies

yeah because John Wayne will do like you

know

Where Eagles Fly the roughest of the

toughness yeah like he'll play these

aviators Right Where Eagles Dare To Fly

and like those those war movies right

right and he's playing like these really

tough heroic men and she said I married

that man he I married the real deal and

so um

and and so finding her gray there she

has one of those bigger marble grave and

she's married under Fitzsimmons Blair so

she's married she's she's buried under

Marine Fitzsimmons Blair and then it

says smaller Merino Hera so you have to

kind of be looking and if you try to

look her up on the Arlington site it

won't pop up under Merino hair you have

to look up Marine Blair because that's

his name Charles Blair

uh so we we visited there we left a rock

I talked a little bit about John Wayne

and her and I talked a little bit about

Lucille Ball because she was her and

Lucille Ball had kind of started making

movies at the same time kind of B movies

and she claims to have been there that

when Lucy met Desi for the first time

and

you know we just kind of go into John

Ford

and the other movies she made like I I'm

a huge fan of

Tyrone Power she had a movie with Tyrone

Power she made a movie with Jimmy

Stewart like she was this huge actress

that was a great leading lady she played

in a lot of roles opposite a strong

leading man and she could hold her own

and that's why John Wayne has that

favorite famous saying she's the

greatest guy he ever knew yeah

that's a great quote because she could

hold her own yeah and that's what he

really liked about her and even when

they did the quiet man there's that part

where he's dragging her through the

field and like he really did that you

know and so and she had just had a baby

you know but she was like all for

whatever it takes so she she said that

um when she would be interviewed she

said Leading Men really appreciated that

about her like she was willing willing

to do whatever it took to get the shot

and to do the stunt so

um

yeah it was really I was really really

honored to find her grave I think I left

her heart rock

and she was very important so I'm she

was the biggie and I think she's the

picture on our yeah she's the thumbnail

she's and I think to your to your credit

I think she's the reason that that video

kind of took off I do too right plus I

think I did pretty good job making it so

I think you did too although some people

get upset a little bit but those uh

cut-ins but yeah you know people have

opinions about you know but when we're

trying to keep it interesting and so I

was actually looking again interesting

behind the scenes here I was looking and

YouTube analytics will actually give you

Impressions so basically how many people

it's been shown to it's been almost a

million people oh my gosh yeah well I

think it's a great video

to do those types of people in Arlington

those those Movie Makers those those

history makers that are in the media

because most people don't realize that

they're there so yeah and an Impressions

it's not like it's near in your direct

feed it could be one of the 15 different

thumbnails on your on your YouTube home

screen or something like that but I just

thought that was cool like yeah because

it's it's one of our more popular videos

so

um

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so the one last thing I wanted to talk

about real quick was um the Tomb of the

Unknown yeah

that opened it was dedicated November 11

1921.

um the first person in turn there was a

soldier from World War one right and so

they just had that hundred year

anniversary yeah that was some month or

two ago yeah so November 11th yeah and

Veterans Day yeah and that was the first

time they allowed the public to get

close to the tomb and lay flowers and

stuff I think it's like the this was the

first time ever in a hundred years yeah

the first it's always been guarded yeah

it's always been guarded so I thought

that was really neat and again for for

anyone listening who doesn't isn't

familiar with the Tomb of the Unknown

Soldier this

is essentially more a monument yes right

a memorial yes all of those people all

of those soldiers that are killed in

action that can never be brought home

that are missing in action you know Etc

and all that stuff and so the army

actually has a dedicated unit that

guards it 24 7 365 days a year rain snow

doesn't matter it doesn't matter what

you walk in there all night long all day

long and it's actually incredibly

prestigious for

folks in the Army to go through this

unit

and Incredibly difficult to to get

qualified to be screened to come in and

do it and they take their job seriously

super you cannot like be talking during

Changing of the Guard there you cannot I

mean they'll yell at you and it I've

seen like random videos of people like

trying to run up and trying to you know

either mess with them or try to touch a

thing they don't [ __ ] around yeah they

don't they don't and I think I think you

have to adhere to certain guidelines if

you're on that in that group you can't

drink right I think you're not allowed

you have to always present yourself in a

prestigious

way yeah like I think there are these

rules if you're going to be a part of

the two million Soldier guard you have

to take a take it upon yourself to

uphold the standard for military wise I

mean it's kind of like you're regarding

some of the most hallowed yeah grounds

yes that that you can that you can guard

right this this symbol of all of those

soldiers who who pay the ultimate price

yes for the country that never came home

that were never identified that you know

they

sell where they did yes and they gave

their life and and they stayed there

yeah because nobody was able to bring

them home and that's you know when

people go to Arlington that's one of the

things people want to see is The

Changing of the Guard it's really neat

because those guys I mean they practice

Ad nauseam and they are I mean to a t

perfect yeah what they do they're

Precision it's incredible it's like kind

of like Ethan eye like the Marine Corps

ethani like the drill stuff yes but just

with something much more solemn yes yeah

yeah so if you ever get a chance that's

the one of the things that tram will

take you to it's one of the things you

get to see I think they change every

it's like hour I thought it was 20

minutes

it's like it's it's every hour it's not

every 20 minutes if somebody knows

tell us yeah hit us up on Twitter I

don't think it's an hour they're not

going to make you march for an hour back

and forth then they're doing this uh 24

hours a day yeah it's about every 20

minutes I don't think it's every hour

we'll follow up in the next episode yeah

we'll do we'll have a little uh podcast

follow up in the next episode

um but now they have women who are on

that guard as well I think she was out

there when we were she was out there

when we were there yeah she was

inspecting yeah because I think when

they

switch they not they not only switch the

guard they have their inspector come out

and then switch them you know so but

that so we're gonna do more episodes

with more of the people we saw because

we want to give this time and yeah we

don't want to do an hour-long podcast

um that's not what talk with history is

it's supposed to be kind of bite size

um and so as you can tell by the stories

of those that we covered just today and

and how much there is to talk about

we've all really barely scratched the

surface of what we personally have

covered at Arlington

so you can look forward to the next part

of our talk with history Arlington

series next week bright and early Monday

morning we'll continue doing this and

there'll probably be multiple podcasts

covering Arlington because there's so

much detail and so many good stories

there yes um it's going to take us a few

episodes to cover everything because

we've been back twice

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