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Eddie: Welcome to Episode
14 of the WebJoy podcast.

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I'm your host Eddie.

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In this podcast, we interview guests
about their origin story and what

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makes them excited and joyful to
be part of the tech community.

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I hope you enjoy today's episode, "I
Decided To Try All Of Them" with Arely.

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Welcome back to WebJoy.

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I'm really excited to have Arely,
as our guest on today's podcast.

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Do you wanna share who you are, what
you do, where you work, you know, just

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a brief introduction about yourself.

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Arely: Yeah.

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Hey, so I'm Arely originally
from Roswell New Mexico though

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my family is all from Mexico.

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That's where I grew up and then went
to college in Albuquerque , which is

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greatly known now for Breaking Bad , so
I get a lot of joke references, even

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though I've never watched Breaking Bad.

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After that I moved to Wisconsin and
that's where I started my career in tech.

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And then I got my job offer
at Amazon, AWS specifically at

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the billing central part of it.

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So I've been here for
about two and a half years.

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My first time living in New
York City, it's been quite the

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change from  where I was from.

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But it's amazing.

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The people are amazing,
the food all of it.

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And I'm a front end engineer on our team.

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and our goal is primarily to
just help bring on UI consoles.

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That would be very beneficial to
customer service people within AWS.

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Eddie: Awesome.

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That is a really interesting journey.

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You seem to have traveled
around a little bit.

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You started down in Southwest and
then moved more north than now.

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You're way out on the east coast.

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Arely: Yeah, my mom's like, why
are you going to Wisconsin again?

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But a lot of the people that I went to
college with, they ended up at this big

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software medical company called Epic.

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And so I went to go visit
them in Madison, Wisconsin.

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I found it to be such a cool fun city.

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And so that's where I decided to go
because tech is not big in New Mexico yet.

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New Mexico, if you're looking into
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like chemical engineering, mechanical
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of big government presence there.

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So that's where they get a
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I see that the tech area there is growing
it's slowly, but not quite where other

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areas around the United States are.

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Which is why I knew that I had to
leave and I was just like, Hey,

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I'm gonna do a change and go to
Wisconsin and I don't regret it.

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It's been a lot of fun.

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Eddie: That's very cool.

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Obviously you've been on this tech
journey, what was that initial spark that

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got you interested in getting involved
in tech and what keeps you interested

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and excited about working in tech?

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Arely: Yeah.

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Whenever I was small, probably in
elementary school, I was already

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playing video games at that point.

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When I first played Tomb Raider,
I was just like, this is amazing.

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I'm gonna be an archeologist.

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That's what I was gonna do.

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Then when I went to middle school,
I met my middle school math teacher.

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And he was just like,
you're really good at Math.

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You should join our science
club, which is called the MESA

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Science Club for Mathematics
Engineering and Science Achievement.

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And this is specifically
for the state of New Mexico.

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We didn't have the funding to
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States science competitions.

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But from there, there was
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And there was forensic science,
robotics, building a wind turbine

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and stuff, for renewable energy.

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And so I decided to try all of 'em
I'm like, well, this year I'll do

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this and this year I'll do that.

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And another I'll try something else.

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And then I ended up really liking
the robotics one and we got to

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work with the Lego Mindstorm
robots, which are really fun.

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And that's how I learned how to
do for loops and if statements and

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stuff like that, and I was just
like, whoa, this is really cool.

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And then you see the
robot moving on the floor.

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You could just get really
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Eddie: I always saw those, but I
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them, but I always thought wow, that
looks really cool and really fun.

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So that's awesome that's
what got you into it.

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Arely: Yeah.

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From then I just continued,
competing in the robotics portion.

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When you do this program in New
Mexico, you start out simplish.

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So since I was in, what was it?

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Fourth or fifth grade, we were
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So we would like drag and drop things.

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It was really cool, learning that
visualization, because then when

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we got to high school and we were
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to get more complex and everything.

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And then once we got into
college, it's just like, oh cool.

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Yes.

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I know for sure.

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I wanna do computer engineering.

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Eddie: I think that's an amazing way
to learn about technology, right?

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Cuz so many people when learning about
programming, it's like, oh, you know

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nothing about programming and then you
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straight code and writing all the code and
to be able to learn it along the way of,

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Hey, here's a visual interaction paradigm
that is giving commands, but you're

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not having to worry about the words.

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I think that's a really awesome way
to learn so that's a fun experience.

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Arely: Yeah, it was awesome.

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That's when I knew that I
wanted to go into that area.

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Even though I still had a
huge love for mathematics.

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So I actually went the path
for computational mathematics.

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So computer science was kind
of my double major in a way.

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So it was a lot of scientific computing
cuz I thought I was gonna get my master's

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in math and then that did not happen.

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Eddie: So that's really interesting cuz
you were headed in scientific computing

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and you were dealing with robotics now
you are working on UI and front end.

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That definitely feels
like an interesting shift.

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What led to that shift of focus for you?

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Arely: Yeah, that's a good question.

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One of my biggest hobby that I
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playing video games is art.

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So I love drawing and I love
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doing panels and everything.

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And once I found out that there was a
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that come to life in a beautiful way.

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I was just like, that is really
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of me having to sit here and wait
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like waiting for it, I can do it
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And I thought that was really cool.

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That was the path that I decided to go to.

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Front-end engineering was
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It was still web development,
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So it was really cool how the evolution
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since then, it's just awesome.

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Seeing this field becoming very
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because I feel like it was not
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Eddie: I can see that.

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I started when essentially all
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You have a PHP app or a Ruby on Rails app.

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And you only use JavaScript to make
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special animation way or something.

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like you said, back then, it's
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just to make something liven up.

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It's not something where you really are
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It's amazing to look at what front
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and think about the different
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That's really cool.

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Arely: Yeah, definitely.

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Eddie: On this podcast, we like to talk
about things that bring people joy.

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So I just wanted to ask you, what's
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doing that kind of brings you joy.

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Arely: Yeah.

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So since the pandemic hit it was kind
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I don't think a lot of people realized
how isolated everything becomes, even

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though, you can speak to your friends
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It's just like, man, I wish I could
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after I finished work for the day,
I'm very fortunate that I was able

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to keep my job during the pandemic.

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And it was very sad.

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Seeing people having to lose
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And so they had to learn ways to
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And so one of my friends, he actually
was my old boss in Wisconsin, he

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decided  "I'm just gonna become a Twitch
streamer" because he loves gaming as well.

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His favorite is playing
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He plays with his two cousins which
I know cuz I've just been friends

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with him for years at this point.

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And his whole philosophy was, I'm just
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He's like, I know, that's not very
appealing to most Twitch streamers,

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because they're like, oh my God,
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someone who is 22 years old, but he
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And I always mod for him, like every time.

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And through that whole like two
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We met so many people all over the world
to where, I visited some people there

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now, and it's just been great because
he's built this entire community that

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people just love coming in and talking.

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And then we know about each
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I'm like, oh, how's your kids.

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And how's your dog?

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How's your family and everything.

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And it's really cool that everyone around
the world, kind of came together and we

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have this community that's very welcoming.

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And I really like that because there's
times where you can go to different

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Twitch streams, but it's not the same
vibe because even though it's serious,

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there's nothing wrong with that.

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If a gamer's very serious about the
gaming that he does, because that's

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probably what they're known for.

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So it's cool to have this different
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"Hey, I'm this like 30 year old.

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I'm not the best in the game, but come
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Eddie: That's awesome.

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I love that shift of perspective.

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It's great to have different
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kind of view it as a sport.

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And they are trying to figure out
how they can be the best at it.

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And they wanna see other
people who are the best at it.

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And other people just
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In an area which can oftentimes
be a little bit more serious,

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like you said, with gaming and
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It's nice to hear that someone's
just kind of shooting the breeze

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and having a fun time with gaming
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particularly over the last couple years.

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That's really fun.

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Arely: He calls himself Mimosa.

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So he's always having mimosas and
it's such a chill vibe and he'll

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do tournaments for people because
he's grown such a huge community

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within the War Zone Community that he
knows a lot of the big players now.

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And so he recently did a tournament of
the olds and basically it's only people

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that were over 30 years old that competed
in this tournament and everyone loved it.

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They thought that it
was the best thing ever.

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And he got some very popular
people to kind of narrate.

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And they just cracked a lot of jokes,
it was very lighthearted and he got

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such positive feedback from that.

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So he just wants to do that.

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Like give opportunity to people that
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war zone community from these really big
tournament pools that he just like, "oh,

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well I want to give my time and money
for the people to have fun as well."

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Another thing that he tries
to really promote is people

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who do come and watch him.

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They're like, oh, well
I wanna play with you.

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And he is like, yeah,
that would be so great.

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He will always invite people to
play with him, but also host his

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own private lobbies or tournaments.

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It doesn't matter what your KD is come in.

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And we'll all have a good time.

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But not only that because he knows so
many well-known people these small gamers,

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they can play with some of the people that
they look up to, which is really cool.

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Eddie: That's really exciting because
I think that's one thing internet

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does really well for us, right?

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Whether it's Twitter or whether it's
this area in Twitch, you can have people

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who are really well known and then
they can be a welcoming environment

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for people who aren't as well known.

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And it breaks down some
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I mean, obviously the internet has
plenty of bad things but I just love

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that the internet can be a place where
people can create that connection.

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So speaking of connection and community
and things like that, I know that

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one thing that we like to do on the
podcast is everyone that comes on, we

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have them share something that they
think might interest the community.

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I was just curious if you have
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the people might find interesting.

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Arely: Yeah.

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So there's this  local
chapter,  called Techqueria.

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Techqueria, is a tech community.

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Basically they wanna promote Latinos in
tech and you don't even have to be Latino

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to be included in like these events, we've
gotten managers that come show up and

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they're like, can I talk to you about how
can we make our workspace more inclusive?

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I would love to hear stories from you
and your perspective so I can figure

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out how we could fix our workplace.

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And it's all over the United States.

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I don't remember how many chapters there
are, but one of the original ones are here

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in New York City and we just always go
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and talk to other people and network.

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There's a really good friend of mine.

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She has been a teacher for almost 10
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retire and she was wanting to see if
she would like to be into tech, even

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though she's had no tech experience.

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And I was like, well, just
come to this networking event.

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Because even if you don't wanna be
necessarily in tech, there's so many

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roles within tech that you can do.

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And so then she was able to meet so
many amazing people that are like,

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well, there's not only just engineering
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and management and things like that.

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So it's really cool that Techqueria
kind of helps a lot of people break

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into that space when it's intimidating
to do so when you're a minority.

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Eddie: Yeah, I love that.

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It's awesome to have
an approachable place.

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Particularly, like you said, for
people who are underrepresented, it's

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always encouraging for me to hear about
different places that are helping people

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feel more comfortable and be able to
go and say, Hey, I have questions.

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And if you're underrepresented to have a
safe place, to be able to ask other people

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who are going to experience other things.

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Unfortunately if someone asks me
what their experience is gonna

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be like, mine is gonna be biased
because of my circumstances.

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And so having a place where they
can go with other people who are

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underrepresented and say, Hey, what
has your experience really been?

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Like, what should I know?

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What kinds of places should I avoid?

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What red flags are there?

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I love that.

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Arely: Yeah.

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It's been great.

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We've met so many incredible people.

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I feel like tech in New York in general
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of the communities that we have there.

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Cuz Techqueria is not the only one.

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It's just one of the ones that
I usually go to and hang out.

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Eddie: Awesome.

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Thank you for sharing and thank
you for coming on the podcast.

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It's been a great time just getting
to know you and chatting and hearing

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about everything that's going on with
the Twitch community and Techqueria,

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and just your journey into tech.

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Arely: Yeah, thank you so much.

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I very much appreciate it.

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And it was very nice meeting.

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Eddie: Thanks for joining us
for Episode 14, "I Decided To

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Try All of Them" with Arely.

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You can find out more about Arely
on her Twitter @ArelySkywalker.

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You can find links to everything we talked
about in this episode, as well as a link

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to Arely's Twitter in the show notes.

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Thank you for listening
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Arely: Have a great day salute.