1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,120 Hello Listeners, today is February 27, 2025. and this is Social Skills Coaching. 2 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:17,440 "where you become more likable, more charasmatic, and more productive." 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:26,720 In this episode of Social Skills Coaching, we dive into the powerful world of validation and how it can transform your relationships. 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Join us as we explore the key steps to effectively validate others, communicate acceptance, and create deeper connections. 5 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:50,840 Today's episode is based on a chapter from Patrick King's book, "How to Listen, Hear, and Validate: Break Through Invisible Barriers and Transform Your Relationships - How to be More Likable and Charismatic (Book 11)." 6 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:58,200 This essential guide is available on Amazon, with an audiobook version also available on Amazon, iTunes, and Audible. 7 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:12,960 To learn more about Patrick King's work and discover how you can apply these principles in your own life, visit his website at bitly PKConsulting. 8 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:21,400 In this chapter, we’ll be taking a closer look at what to actually do and say when validating someone. 9 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:29,760 We’ve considered a few key phrases, but validation can occur on several different levels, not all of them applicable in every context. 10 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:41,400 Deciding when and how to offer validation is a skill in itself; in this chapter, we’ll look at some frameworks to help us organize our approach. 11 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Validation as Communicating Acceptance 12 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:46,640 13 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Psychologist Marsha Linehan proposes an interesting and useful framework we can use to help us better understand the process of validation. 14 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:10,880 As we saw in the previous section, validation isn’t always appropriate or helpful, but this is often a question of degree—how far to go and what kind of validation to give. 15 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:18,800 According to Linehan, there are six progressive levels of validation, each one building on the one before it. 16 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:26,200 This means if you want to offer level 5 validation, you need to have gone through levels 1 to 4 first. 17 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:35,640 However, you don’t have to reach level 5—some situations will call only for some levels, without proceeding further. 18 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:43,520 In certain situations, it might not be necessary or even possible to go beyond a certain level. 19 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:50,640 In any case, with this model we can see validation as a kind of communicated acceptance. 20 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:56,400 Remember, acceptance is not agreement or approval (or even understanding! 21 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:04,880 ), but it is prioritizing emotional connection even when there is conflict or difference of opinion. 22 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Level 1 is being present with the other person. 23 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:22,200 For example, being still with them, listening closely, paying attention, nodding your head, making eye contact, or letting them know you’re there by placing a hand on their shoulder. 24 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:38,480 The best way to be present with someone is to engage in “active listening.” You must give the other person non-verbal signals like those that have been mentioned, as well as verbal signals like a “yes” or “go on” intermittently. 25 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:47,560 This acts as feedback for the other person and they automatically become more open and honest with you as a result. 26 00:03:47,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Being distracted by your phone while someone pours their heart out to you is obviously not being present, but then again, launching into insensitive “advice” and immediately sharing your opinion also removes your attention and presence from the moment. 27 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:20,680 In level 1, the biggest hurdle can be acceptance of ourselves and our emotions without judgment, so we can resist escaping into denial or justifications just to fill the silence. 28 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:31,840 Some of us can be uncomfortable with intense emotions because they force us to confront our own experiences with situations similar to those the other person is facing. 29 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:37,520 Even someone expressing happiness can be disconcerting to us if we’re going through a rough patch. 30 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,360 Try not to make your own reaction the focus. 31 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,240 Try not to steer away from the emotion being expressed. 32 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:52,680 This will inspire trust and comfort in the other person. 33 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,880 Level 2 is practicing accurate reflection. 34 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,160 This is when we offer a genuine response that summarizes what we’ve heard and seen. 35 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:14,680 A lot of people struggle with this step because they simply don’t think they have anything valuable to offer, and it adds to the discomfort one might experience in step 1 as well. 36 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:26,520 If this sounds like you, remember that you only have to show the person that you listened to them when they were talking; you need not provide any original input or insight that they missed. 37 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:32,560 It can be as simple as saying, “It sounds like you’re having a hard time right now.” 38 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:39,120 The challenge here is to reflect without sounding patronizing, insincere or judgmental. 39 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,160 Tone of voice is everything! 40 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,240 This is especially true if you’re disagreeing with the person in this step. 41 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,600 Remember, validation does not always mean agreement. 42 00:05:51,600 --> 00:06:04,480 If your friend is narrating an incident about how he feels he isn’t working as hard as other employees, you don’t have to say that it’s okay to feel that way or somehow justify his not working as hard. 43 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:18,320 You can simply say, “Maybe you’re being too hard on yourself.” What matters is the authenticity of your reflection, not whether it reinforces what the other person is saying. 44 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:27,280 Maybe you disagreeing will make them see that they were indeed being too hard on themselves for some reason. 45 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:32,600 Level 3 is, for want of a better word, mindreading, i.e. 46 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,520 trying to guess the other person’s thoughts and feelings. 47 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Obviously, this can be tricky, and we all differ in our “emotional literacy” and ability to read others. 48 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:56,720 On top of that, people are not always sure what they themselves feel, and may be used to expressing one thing while feeling another, or masking their true experience completely. 49 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,520 This step is about trying to put names on possible emotions and thoughts. 50 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:09,840 As you can see, it’s a natural extension of the previous step: “It sounds like you’re having a hard time right now. 51 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,480 I wonder if you’re feeling overwhelmed by what’s happened.” 52 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:30,040 The challenge here is to remove as much of your own bias and expectation as possible, and be ready to abandon a guess if the other person tells you that’s not in fact how they feel. 53 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:39,720 It can actually be invalidating to have someone else incorrectly interpret your situation—as though they haven’t heard you or have their own agenda. 54 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,080 Use your knowledge of the other person as much as you can. 55 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:49,560 Think about how they typically react to similar situations, or have responded to them in the past. 56 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,160 It’s likely that they have the same reaction now too. 57 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Some people do or say specific things when they’re feeling various emotions. 58 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:04,200 For example, some people speak in shorter sentences when they’re upset. 59 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Notice cues like these and use them to read the other person’s mind. 60 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:19,200 In level 4, we frame the person’s experience in their unique context. 61 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:28,560 This doesn’t mean playing shrink and running wild with theories and assumptions, but seeing what you know about the other person as a whole. 62 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:34,120 What’s happened in their history to make this current situation more understandable? 63 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,080 How does their unique life situation play into what they’re telling you? 64 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:52,720 You could acknowledge this context by saying something like, “Well, it makes sense that you would be overwhelmed by all this right now, since you’ve had so many big life changes lately.” 65 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,800 Level 5 entails normalizing reactions. 66 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:05,480 A big part of validation is knowing that you’re not weird or wrong or bad, but having a perfectly normal and even common experience. 67 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:13,800 “I’m sure anyone would feel stressed out if they had as much on their plate as you!” 68 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:20,520 Level 6, the final level, is about injecting some radical genuineness. 69 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:32,000 This takes emotional acceptance deeper, and means we reach out on a personal level to the other person, emphasizing our shared human connection and experience. 70 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:46,240 This is the level where you can reveal something about yourself, or become a little vulnerable—but whatever you do, it must be an authentic expression showing that you truly understand what the other person is telling you. 71 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:56,320 However, you should be wary about not making the other person feel like you’ve hijacked the conversation and made it all about yourself. 72 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:06,760 As you can see, every situation will call for a different degree of validation—and it depends on your context and relationship with the person, too. 73 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Of course, you don’t have to sit there and rigidly remember the six levels when a friend comes to you for support; rather, the takeaway from this model is to think of validation on a sliding scale—read the situation and dial up your level of validation accordingly. 74 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,280 How to Validate Someone — The Framework 75 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,560 Let’s dig in even deeper. 76 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:42,960 Validation is a kind of communication, and its purpose is to communicate acceptance. 77 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:52,080 Let’s take a look now at a step-by-step, detailed framework to follow when we want to provide validation. 78 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:57,440 In reality, the six levels described above flow and blend into one another. 79 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:10,400 There are different techniques, approaches and skills associated with each that, again, will vary in their effectiveness depending on the person you’re talking to. 80 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Let’s consider each in finer detail. 81 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Step 1 – How to be present: listen! 82 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:29,360 No matter what the situation is, you should always go into it with an open mind and calm, focused attention on the other person. 83 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 You are not coming in with an agenda. 84 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Rather, you are listening carefully to better understand their point of view, and their experience. 85 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:48,440 This can actually be the hardest part, because when we care and want to help, we may want to jump in and start talking, offer advice, and so on. 86 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,400 But resist this urge in the beginning and let the other person take the lead. 87 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,000 Let them speak and really listen. 88 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:08,080 Here, your verbal communication is turned off for the most part, but your non-verbal communication comes to the fore. 89 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Receptive body language: maintain an open posture and facial expression, and turn your body to face them. 90 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Relax. 91 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Make eye contact if it feels appropriate, but it’s eye contact that is about interested, respectful attention rather than interrogation. 92 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,520 Mirror their body language as closely as you can. 93 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,160 If they’re sitting with their legs crossed, do the same. 94 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,720 If they have their arms resting on a table, you should too. 95 00:12:37,720 --> 00:13:03,320 Get rid of distractions—put your phone away, turn the TV off and show, with your body, “I’m here now, and I want to listen to what you have to say.” It’s also a good idea to match their tone and pace of speaking, as well as their “energy.” If they are quiet and hesitant, for example, be quiet too, and tread carefully. 96 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,480 You might also encourage them to open up by asking, “Would you like to talk? 97 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:20,040 I’m all ears.” You might make encouraging “uh-huh” sounds or something similar, but at this step, silence can work wonders as an invitation for the other person to share. 98 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:29,400 Examples: Your roommate has just come home and clearly seems shaken up. 99 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Seeing this, you close your laptop and turn toward him, showing a concerned expression. 100 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:40,760 He says he’s just had a car accident and is feeling pretty stunned. 101 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:49,040 Without saying too much (maybe a simple “tell me what happened”), you sit next to him and just listen without interrupting as he tells his story. 102 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Or, imagine a woman tells her husband they need to talk. 103 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:02,760 They sit down to chat, and she begins to explain something that’s been bothering her, and that she’s upset with him. 104 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Though it’s tempting for the husband to respond immediately to what feels like accusations, he waits until she’s said her piece. 105 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:24,200 Although he doesn’t really like what he’s hearing, he tries hard to just listen, and see things from her point of view, even though he would really like to share his own. 106 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:33,200 When she’s done talking, he pauses a little, so she doesn’t feel as though he was simply waiting for her to shut up so he could jump in with a rebuttal! 107 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Step 2 – How to reflect: ask questions 108 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:49,880 If the person simply wanted to be heard, and immediately feels better, you can sometimes stop at step 1. 109 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,760 But you may find the conversation naturally shifts to your response to what you’ve heard. 110 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:05,640 This is actively letting someone know you’ve heard them, because when you paraphrase what they’ve said, you are reflecting it back to them. 111 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:11,920 But when you reflect back, it only feels validating if it’s accurate. 112 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:18,360 The easiest way to do this is to literally repeat what you’ve heard. 113 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:27,480 You can use reflection to summarize what’s been said, to reiterate the most important parts of the story, or to distill some main essence of what they’re feeling. 114 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:42,240 For example, if somebody blurts out a long list of stressful events that have happened to them that day, you can say “Wow, it seems like there’s so much going on right now.” 115 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Don’t worry about your statement seeming overly obvious. 116 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,080 When you reflect back, it’s as though you are helping the other person tell their story. 117 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:55,280 It lets them know that you’re listening, and that you get it. 118 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:01,120 It tells them that what they’re expressing has actually landed, and communication is working. 119 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:10,920 Now, you don’t have to jump in with clever-sounding guesses or tell them what they’re feeling—if you don’t know, you can always ask! 120 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Asking questions is further confirmation that you’re listening and invested, and that what they say matters. 121 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Questions can prompt a person to keep sharing, and help them arrive at a more distinct conclusion themselves, in their own time. 122 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Supportive questions: 123 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:39,240 “Okay, I want to understand what you mean when you say XYZ…can you tell me more?” 124 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,800 “So what did you think about that?” 125 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,240 “What do you think happens next?” 126 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,440 “Can you say more about XYZ?” 127 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,720 “So how are you feeling about all of this?” 128 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Though it’s not a bad question per se, avoid “so how does that make you feel?” as it can obviously feel a little cheesy! 129 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Examples: If someone has just explained at length a complicated family drama, you may be a little confused on the details. 130 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,080 Asking questions can show that you care about grasping the subtleties. 131 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:33,480 “So, what’s the relationship like between your mother and sister?” or “So you’re worried that they had that discussion without you? 132 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Have I got that right?” Outright asking if you’ve understood correctly not only shows that you want to understand, but that you are centering the other person, which is validating in itself. 133 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:52,120 Questions are not just for your own clarification, though. 134 00:17:52,120 --> 00:18:03,120 You might well know how a particular story ends, but asking questions about it communicates encouragement and acceptance of the other person working their way through the story. 135 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:10,480 “Okay, so then your mom told you about this conversation with your sister. 136 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,520 What happened next?” 137 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Questions and statements can both be used to achieve the same effect. 138 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Whether you frame it as an obvious question or more of a tentative statement, you are essentially asking, Have I understood? 139 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,640 Is this how it is for you? 140 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Step 3 – How to mindread: Use feeling words 141 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:49,680 If you spend a while in the previous step, you may find yourself naturally flowing into this step, where you speak more directly about the other person’s experience. 142 00:18:49,680 --> 00:19:00,680 You began by listening and helping the person tell their story, and as you continue, it’s as though you are helping them add more shape and structure to it. 143 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:10,440 This makes sense when you think about it: when people are upset or emotional, they may not be thinking super clearly or rationally. 144 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:18,320 They need to first express the emotions they’re feeling, and only then find their way to processing and integrating the experience. 145 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:24,680 At this early stage though, try to avoid injecting your own interpretations into things. 146 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:35,440 Think of yourself as a kind of guide or even midwife, helping a person get through their own experience, without making it too much about yourself. 147 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Sometimes, when people are upset, it can be helpful to put words to what they’re feeling. 148 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:50,640 Simply being able to say, “I’m feeling so disappointed right now” is a step toward acknowledging and owning your own experience. 149 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:58,800 “Mindreading” is perhaps a misleading word here, since you shouldn’t really feel like you are guessing. 150 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:05,000 But tentatively offer up an emotion word that might capture what they’re going through. 151 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,080 In doing so, you are helping people arrive at their own interpretations and conclusions. 152 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:18,360 Naturally, you shouldn’t just blurt out, “You’re depressed” or flat-out tell someone how they’re feeling. 153 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:21,280 Phrases to try: 154 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,480 “It seems to me like…” 155 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,120 “I’m wondering if XYZ is the case…” 156 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:39,400 “You seem quite angry/upset/scared/confused right now.” (Said in a gentle, non-judgmental tone.) 157 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,600 “Do you think that made you feel XYZ?” 158 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,760 “I can see you’re hurt.” 159 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:54,560 “From what you’re saying, it sounds like you’re feeling XYZ about the whole thing.” 160 00:20:54,560 --> 00:21:09,520 Examples: Someone might be explaining at length the irritating things one of their friends does, giving a list of offenses, including the most recent one that caused a small argument. 161 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:15,520 But in listening to them, you notice that they haven’t actually stated outright how they feel. 162 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:23,720 It might be obvious to you both, but you say, “Woah, seems like there’s definitely a lot of frustration in this friendship.” 163 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:36,520 By putting a single word to the collection of experiences, you not only show that you’ve listened, but that you can actually synthesize everything together, and see the bigger picture. 164 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:43,560 This can really move a conversation along, and the other person might say, “Yes, that’s exactly right. 165 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,000 We seem to get frustrated with each other more and more lately…” 166 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Though it’s never your job to tell someone how they’re feeling, they may get to see their emotions a lot more clearly when you reflect them back. 167 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:09,160 If a different friend is complaining about how they’re fed up with their girlfriend’s male friends, you might say after a while, “I wonder if it’s jealousy you’re feeling?” 168 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:27,360 Even if you get the mindreading part wrong, so long as you’re not being madly offensive, the other person is likely to appreciate the effort, and in correcting you, they are again engaged in sharing openly—a win-win situation. 169 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:37,000 Step 4 – How to find context: validate and center their experience 170 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:45,960 Again, one step may bleed over into the next, and asking questions or mindreading may easily lead to this step. 171 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:55,920 At this stage, you want to communicate a strong sense of understanding who the person is, and how their experience is truly unique to them. 172 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:02,920 You want to center them, and focus on their world and how it feels to be in it. 173 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:15,360 Here, you are still not offering your own interpretations, but rather helping the other person draw together their ideas so that they find their own conclusions themselves. 174 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:24,840 We can absolutely provide validation to people we don’t know that well, but more commonly, we know a little about them and their history. 175 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:33,240 When we validate and center another person, we are saying to them your perspective is valid. 176 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,400 This story and the way you’re experiencing it makes sense. 177 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:45,040 For example, we can say, “I can totally see why you freaked out when that happened. 178 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,760 Seeing as you’ve had bad experiences with this sort of thing in the past, it’s not surprising you reacted the way you did.” 179 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:59,280 We can bring in plenty of validation by acknowledging a person’s unique perspective and history. 180 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,320 This can make people feel really seen and heard. 181 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:15,360 Some of the following phrases can be used alone to provide validation, but can also be extended and framed in terms of the person’s context, or the broader situation. 182 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:21,440 Phrases that validate a person’s unique experience: 183 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,480 “I can really see how the situation has made you feel this way.” 184 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:37,360 “Given that you’re a woman/Muslim/Australian/gymnast, I can understand why you responded as you did.” 185 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:42,200 “What you say makes total sense to me.” 186 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,960 “It’s understandable that you feel like this.” 187 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:52,720 “Well, you have a reason for feeling the way you do, and I completely understand that.” 188 00:24:52,720 --> 00:25:13,640 Example: If someone tells you they are struggling with PTSD after experiencing a violent crime, you can start by listening (being present), then ask them questions to flesh out their experience of the anxiety (so you can reflect). 189 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:33,480 Then you might move on to saying something that vaguely summarizes their experience (mindreading, for example, “You’ve been under so much stress, I’m sure”) and extend this by embedding it into the bigger context (“given what you’ve already been through, it’s no surprise that you feel like this”). 190 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:41,640 Step 5 – How to normalize: refrain from judgment 191 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Judgment and acceptance cannot exist at the same time. 192 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:55,400 When we validate people, we acknowledge that their experience is valid and their own, whatever it is. 193 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:02,600 We can’t do this properly if we have loads of criticisms or judgments about what we think of them. 194 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,960 Maybe we don’t agree with their appraisal of events. 195 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,360 Maybe we think they’re being foolish or missing something important. 196 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:13,080 Maybe they’re angry with us, and we want to defend ourselves. 197 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:19,400 Or maybe we can’t quite understand their response and it really does seem irrational to us. 198 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:31,920 Nevertheless, when we seek to normalize someone’s experience, what we are really doing is telling them that it is acceptable, and that we don’t judge them for what they’re going through. 199 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,080 You don’t have to agree or share their opinion. 200 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,080 You don’t have to relate to the way they’re telling their story or what they’re choosing to focus on. 201 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:49,640 But you can still communicate that they are entitled to feel that way, regardless of how your experience compares to theirs. 202 00:26:49,640 --> 00:27:02,320 Many people have had the experience of reaching out to others for support, sympathy or (let’s face it) a good old-fashioned rant, only to have their experience judged. 203 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:15,480 They want to feel validated and heard, but instead, the other person might launch into a fact-finding mission, trying to root out who’s to blame, and why, and what the logical and “correct” answer is. 204 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Alternatively, some people may see the emotions of others as quite threatening, awkward or uncomfortable. 205 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:33,960 Because they feel unable to validate and accept, for example, sad feelings in themselves, they react badly when they see them in others. 206 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,480 Their response then is to judge. 207 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:45,200 “Oh you’re overreacting, it’s not that bad” or “come on now, you’re being a bummer, cheer up!” 208 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:53,520 When we normalize, however, we communicate that all feelings and all experiences are valid. 209 00:27:53,520 --> 00:28:01,800 Just because some feelings are uncomfortable or confronting, it doesn’t mean that people are wrong for experiencing them. 210 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:12,360 The other side of the coin, though, is that we can also be guilty of judging in the opposite direction, especially if we are trying to be supportive or helpful. 211 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:27,400 When we say something like, “Oh it’s so healthy that you’re finally grieving that loss” or “you go girl, get mad!” we are also passing a value judgment on an experience. 212 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:35,040 We need to look beyond the specific emotion, thought or experience and to the person having it. 213 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:49,840 We need to be able to say to that person: “It’s OK to be who you are right now, and feel how you feel.” Deep down, don’t all of us want to know that we are not bad or wrong or strange? 214 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,760 Don’t we all feel a little better when we know that we’re not the only people who feel the way we do? 215 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Ways to express non-judgment and normalize: 216 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:08,200 “I think that most people would feel that way if they were in your shoes.” 217 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,800 “It’s totally normal that you feel like this.” 218 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560 “I would be upset too.” 219 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,200 “There’s nothing wrong with thinking these thoughts.” 220 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,720 “You’re not alone.” 221 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:27,880 “Hey, I’m glad you told me how you feel.” (normalizing the act of sharing) 222 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Sometimes, the best way to show our acceptance and convey a sense of normalcy is not in the words we say, but in how we act, and what we don’t say. 223 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:47,120 Try to avoid making a pronouncement on what thoughts and feelings are good or bad. 224 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:55,440 Don’t comment on the strength or appropriateness of the feeling, for example, by suggesting an emotion is too much or too little. 225 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:01,200 We’ll look more at how not to validate in a later chapter. 226 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:12,040 Examples: A child reveals a rather shocking secret to their mother, but the mother is careful not to act horrified. 227 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:34,320 By saying “I’m glad I know, you were right to tell me, and it’s understandable that you’re upset about this,” she communicates both that the child’s feelings are valid, and also that reaching out and sharing is welcome and acceptable—a profoundly reassuring position to take when someone is in distress. 228 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Normalizing can be done briefly and as a matter of course, too. 229 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:56,400 For example, someone shares something with their therapist and finishes with “but I’m sure you’re used to seeing way more important problems in your practice.” The therapist can respond, “Your problem is important. 230 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,160 And many people come here with the very same concerns as you.” 231 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,160 232 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:09,560 Step 6 – How to show genuine validation: Be real 233 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:18,920 When someone reaches out for help and support, the last thing they want is to feel like doing so makes them weak or wrong. 234 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:33,400 When opening up to others, we all like to imagine that they understand a little about what we’re saying, because they’re human too, and have experienced suffering, loss, confusion, and other negative feelings. 235 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:40,720 When the person listening can open up a little in return, we can feel immensely validated. 236 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:47,240 We are not just being told we are OK and not alone—we actually experience it for real. 237 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:55,080 This final step of showing genuine human care and understanding is something that can’t be faked. 238 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,360 But one way to do it is to offer up something of your own experience. 239 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:08,680 This isn’t to derail the conversation or hog attention, but to confirm that you, too, know a little of what it feels like. 240 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:14,560 “I lost my father last year, and I remember feeling that way, too.” 241 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:32,640 Yes, it’s always better to listen more and talk less, and you don’t want to succumb to a preachy bit of advice or a story about how you did things better, but being a little vulnerable yourself can be a powerful thing to do. 242 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:42,520 Don’t share a story just to make a point or sneak in some advice—for example, “When my father died, I took up jogging. 243 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,280 It was the only thing that kept me sane” (i.e. 244 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,240 I think you should do the same). 245 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,760 Rather, you are showing them that you are familiar with their emotion on a firsthand level. 246 00:32:53,760 --> 00:33:03,400 We won’t look at helpful phrases or examples here since the point of this step is to react genuinely, as the real person you are. 247 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,640 Be honest. 248 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:12,160 It can be as simple as saying “I know how you feel,” but, if you can truly show that you know, even better. 249 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:28,720 “Did I ever tell you that the same thing happened to me last year?” And if you can’t relate, it’s probably better to just say that you can’t, instead of trying to shoehorn your own experience in an attempt to match theirs. 250 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:46,520 As you can see, at no point in this process are you fixing any problems, offering any solutions, advice or suggestions, arguing, blaming, figuring out “the truth” or deciding whether the person’s reactions are reasonable or not. 251 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:55,640 You’re also not trying to “help” by giving sagely words of wisdom or using your own experience as an inspiring example. 252 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:04,040 The above process may take an hour to unfold, with several loops back to previous stages. 253 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:13,280 The person may need to dig deeper, rehash some things or tell the tale again before they’re ready to move on or even ask for advice. 254 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,160 Or, the process may be over in a minute, and not proceed all the way through. 255 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,400 The way validation unfolds depends on just two things: 256 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,920 • The needs of the person receiving the validation 257 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:33,520 • The capacities, limits and skill of the person giving the validation 258 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:33,520 259 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,240 Summary 260 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:48,160 • Marsha Linehan has come up with a comprehensive, six-step model of validation that we can use when listening to others. 261 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,040 Each step in this model relies on the previous one. 262 00:34:52,040 --> 00:35:02,800 One can’t jump from step 1 to step 6; they must follow each step in the same order to validate someone in the best, most reassuring way possible. 263 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,760 • The first step in this model is simply being present. 264 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,360 Here, you must actively listen to the other person and pay close attention. 265 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:21,040 Give the other person subtle feedback through verbal and non-verbal cues which indicate that you’re listening to them. 266 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,720 This will make the other person feel more comfortable with you. 267 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:36,160 The second step is called accurate reflection, and here you need to summarize what you’ve been told to provide further reassurance that you’ve understood what they’ve told you. 268 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,280 Keep it simple, but significant. 269 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,840 • Next, try to read subtle cues the other person is giving. 270 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:52,360 This involves some guesswork, but you only need enough information to be able to label their words with an emotion. 271 00:35:52,360 --> 00:36:05,480 For step four, try to contextualize the person’s thoughts and emotions with either recent events from their life or past experiences which might be influencing their reaction. 272 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:16,800 • Step five is to simply reassure the other person that their reaction is reasonable and anyone else in their position would feel the same way. 273 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:27,040 Lastly, for step six, you can relate their experiences with your own if you’ve been in a similar situation. 274 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:35,600 Being vulnerable here can establish a stronger bond and invite further conversation and trust. 275 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:44,560 So there you have it, folks. 276 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:52,200 If you're tired of misunderstandings, conflicts, and loneliness creeping into your relationships, this book is for you. 277 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:59,520 It'll show you the mistakes we often make when trying to listen, and give you practical techniques to communicate more effectively. 278 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:10,520 Most importantly, it'll help you become that person everyone wants in their life - someone who truly listens, understands, and validates others. 279 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,240 So don't just take my word for it. 280 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:17,760 Check out "How to Listen, Hear, and Validate" by Patrick King. 281 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,840 It's available on Amazon in both physical and audiobook formats. 282 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,160 Trust me, your relationships will thank you. 283 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,960 Go ahead and get your copy now. 284 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,880 The world needs more empathetic communicators like us. 285 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,400 Let's be the change we wish to see out there. 286 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:39,840 Thanks for listening, and I'll see you next time!