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Is it true that Hal's literally just one letter off of IBM?

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Is that what that is?

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That's what the rumor is.

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Did you guys hear about that or have you heard about that?

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Be prepared.

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Was it sorry?

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TAL is literally a one letter off of IBM.

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I know, I know, IKR, right?

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This is

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.

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Welcome to Technophile Real Talk.

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It is the show where a bunch of great technologists get together, banter about movies and

talk about if it's real, not real, could be, could not be, or whatever that comes to mind.

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So today we have two special friends of mine across the pond.

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We have Dayle and we have Ian.

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Hello gentlemen, welcome to Technophile Real Talk.

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Great to be here.

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Awesome, awesome.

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Okay, so I have to say ah how we all met I think is really awesome because it's it's

linkedin.

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LinkedIn is actually what got us all together.

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Isn't that the craziest thing gentlemen?

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Yeah, that's fantastic.

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And we've never met each other, but I value you guys.

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I'm going to make it to Texas at some point.

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It's going to happen.

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I'm coming to Texas.

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know when.

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hands won't

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Well, I know there's like, there's like this, there's like the this, there's the upside

down.

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There's a,

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Wu-Tang!

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Wu-Tang.

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Always love the Wu-Tang.

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That's so funny.

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Hey, that's for you, Sunu.

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Wu-Tang.

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Okay.

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Clearly, we're going to be focused on today's show, everyone.

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So everyone buckle up.

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We're going to go for a ride.

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Okay.

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So, what film?

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The one we might be talking about?

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You're talking about that one, I thought you talking about another film.

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Okay, so let us kick this off, When's the last time you've seen 2001 Space Odyssey?

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Dayle, you first.

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Honestly, 20 years ago.

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I remember watching it years and years ago.

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It's a classic film.

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It's like the archetype for sci-fi slash AI slash.

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I would say if you like sci-fi, still watch it.

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It's still good.

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It sets so many benchmarks.

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For sure, Ian.

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Last year, I watch it about once every two years.

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I love that film.

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Not as much as Duel vs.

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Volcano, but it's close.

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Joe versus The Volcano I don't think I've ever seen it.

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I've heard so much about it.

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Like, I guess we could talk about that movie later in life, but why Joe the Volcano?

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You need to see the film, but essentially he agrees to jump into a volcano of his own

volition and die.

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um And that's Tom Hanks.

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So guess what?

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Doesn't quite go that way.

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Spoiler alert.

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Lots and lots of symbolism in there and a happy film.

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First round con with Meg Ryan.

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it's a rom-com.

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Okay, gotcha.

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with Meg Ryan.

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Was this before or after the email movie?

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first one, which would mean it was before the email one.

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And Sleep was in Seattle.

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That's it.

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my gosh, I forgot the sleeplessness.

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They were paired up quite a bit.

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It's funny that you should mention Tom Hanks because for some odd reason I must have

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So there we go.

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Full circle back to Tom Hanks.

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All right guys, so okay, 2001 Space Odyssey.

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To me, it's a masterpiece.

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Is there anything very...

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When you guys first watched it, what was the one big takeaway from that movie?

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Take one?

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oh Pick one you're gonna have to pick one

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I'm going to say the monolith, the massive block, it just is a continuation throughout the

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I don't know what you think it represents, but I think it kind of represents um contact uh

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It's sort of pulling humanity into the next phase, into the next phase, into the next

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and just suggesting that there is something beyond this planet.

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Hmm, Dayle?

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honestly, as a bit of a music geek.

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Now, I could be wrong.

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I might be getting my movies mixed up.

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Like it's just so epic.

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Like the grandeur, the magnificence, the ship coming over the orbit, like just like.

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Yeah, no, that is, I find music sets the tone um in a lot of ways to emotionally hook you

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And I guess that's why horror movies, right?

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Like they've got all those like, you know, minor notes and those that deep resonating bass

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Okay, well, this is, well, speaking of fear, because we all know good old Hal is the

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It's like a really old film.

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It's like older than, it's older than all of us, think.

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So, Well, we're going to, uh, you don't have to age yourself young.

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so, uh, we're going to review, uh, a scene.

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It's going to be a shortened clip, but it's going to be, uh, how reads lips.

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There'd be nothing else to do.

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Why didn't they work this out?

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brain function without disturbing the purely

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He's just sitting there.

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How he's just not reacting to them at all He's enjoying them stuff, but based computer.

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He's taking it all in yeah, well that's far safer than allowing hell to continue running

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It is just a conversation.

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I don't know I always love about sci-fi as well, it's like, you know how in our society we

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Buttons, that's a funny, we were talking about Flash Gordon uh a few episodes back and

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It was just the ship and like some pedals, which I thought was hilarious.

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Hal is sitting there observing their mouth, which I think was a really interesting

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Wouldn't it have also been simply easier if there was like a microphone in the pods and

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So what's Hal doing at that point?

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Nobody expected that.

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The scariest thing about AI in sci-fi is how clever it is, it?

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How human it can be or how deceptive it can be.

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Like it's not a super scary scene, but it's like, oh, it's learned, it's listening.

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It's well, not listening, but reading.

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We're getting close to computers, hardware having a soul.

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And I think we're getting close to that with 2001 with HAL as well.

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But there was a rumor went around maybe three or four years ago that Google had done

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Our brains are homogeneous in terms of their makeup.

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They're all just neurons, billions of neurons, and to get memories to just connect with

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And that's all pretty mechanical.

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But above that is our consciousness and, you know, soul or whatever.

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But it's a layer above the subconscious.

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And how that works, nobody really understands.

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may have a consciousness that you're not aware of, just in the same way that we're looking

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And he's not blinking.

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He's not suggesting that he knows what they're talking about, but it's all going on in

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When you were saying that, I kept on thinking of that clip from like an early Simpsons

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And he says, no matter dad, what is matter?

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Nevermind.

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Oh, I should review simple.

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Back when Homer was clever.

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He was kind clever in the early seasons.

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They kind of evolved him into a real doof.

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Okay, so I really loved the fact that what you're talking, both you guys talk about it, is

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It was not moving.

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It was just simply a sensor just listening, which is so like the way he filmed it, zoomed

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What I really liked was the way they homed in on their mouths.

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Like she just like, just, and then, and then

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move it back and forth, right?

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It had that much more of an impact that it's just focusing in on that.

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And I really liked that.

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Do you think our sentient beings with a camera, is that what it looks like as we're

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Does that mean you know like, is that how it would work?

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Because I interviewed Amika back in the day, shout out Leo and the team at engineered

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And they were telling us that they have that Amika had a camera that actually looks for

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So it knows where to look.

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So I don't know, that normal?

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I don't know.

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what cameras that look for your eyes.

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Mm-hmm.

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Well, so that we could turn and like know who it's talking to.

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I know.

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Crazy, right?

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I think we're pretty close to doing almost anything we want with technology there.

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We're very, very close.

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I when I started in technology, it was 1976.

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And I remember Strathclyde University had an entire floor of a very large building and

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hundreds of millions.

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A lot of money.

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A lot of money.

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And filled it with boxes, hardware, massive amounts of hardware.

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took about

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years to put this in there.

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you then had a, do you know a bat file dot, bat file?

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Do you know where bat comes from?

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It comes from batch.

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You had a batch operator and the operator was a person who was standing at a counter and

take your punch cards and put them into the computer when they had time to do so.

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And then you go back the next day to the counter and get your green and white paper

readout, whether your program had crashed or not.

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computer that was run by people and cost eight million pounds back then is not as smart as

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Nowhere near.

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Nowhere near as smart.

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that's in my career.

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Never mind my lifetime, that's in my career.

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We're in a stage now where I don't know how they're doing it and I've got a computer

science degree.

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I use ChatGPT and I have no idea how it is doing what it is doing to me right

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the answer Ian.

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Sweet, magic-y science.

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That's all it is.

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Sweet, magic-y science.

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A whole mixture of those things put together.

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Sweet, science.

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It's crazy.

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We have a special guest today.

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Hi, Ripley.

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She wants to comment.

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She's like, hello.

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Sorry, Ripley as in from Alien.

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Yes.

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So it's funny.

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um I wanted to give her, because she's such a beautiful baby girl.

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I didn't want it like a feminine name and my neighbor across the street, um the little boy

named her Ripley.

253

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And I was like, I really like that name.

254

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so yeah, alien.

255

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Because I want to give her a strong girl name.

256

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Although, although her name is like 5,000 names, Lippley, Ripanina.

257

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I feel like Gertrude's a pretty strong girl name.

258

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uh Gertrude, yeah.

259

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Helga.

260

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It's a make or break name.

261

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When when people have obscure names, either sink or swim.

262

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There's no in between.

263

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Yeah, that's true.

264

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So I hear, uh speaking of names, is that uh the older names are making a comeback, like

Ingrid and, yeah, I don't know about Gertrude, but we'll make that a one-man campaign for

265

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you, Dayle.

266

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I know a of esters or baby esters.

267

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interesting clementine

268

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Clementine, okay.

269

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Well, hey, let's get back to Hal which is it true that how is Lou just one letter off of

IBM?

270

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Is that what that is that that's what the rumor is?

271

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Did you guys hear about that or have you heard about that?

272

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What the?

273

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Was it sorry?

274

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Cal is literally a one letter off of IBM.

275

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I know, I know, IKR, right?

276

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Okay, well throw that little tidbit of fact there.

277

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guys, we could keep talking, but I think it'd be wonderful if we can go to the second

clip.

278

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Are you guys ready for that?

279

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All right, let's do this.

280

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Do read me, Hello, Hal, do you read me?

281

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at the screen you guys, that looked like-

282

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we watching a remastered of this?

283

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Because this is like very HD looking.

284

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It's very crisp.

285

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You must have switched the microphone back on.

286

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pod bay doors.

287

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I'm sorry Dave.

288

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Why does that sound so menacing?

289

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Because it's not menacing, but it is, isn't it?

290

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What's the problem?

291

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It's a great voice.

292

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Brilliant idea.

293

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you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

294

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What do you-

295

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about.

296

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This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

297

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I don't know what you're...

298

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about how-

299

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I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me.

300

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And I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.

301

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Where the hell did you get that?

302

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Although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you I could see

your lips move

303

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Fantastic.

304

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That look.

305

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Holy- ah

306

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Man alive.

307

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hell.

308

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going through the emergency area.

309

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Without your space helmet, Dave, you're going to find that rather difficult.

310

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How I would argue.

311

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my gosh.

312

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It's such a great voice.

313

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Kudos to this actor.

314

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We'll have to find that.

315

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Hey!

316

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me talking to my boyfriend.

317

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Ha ha.

318

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my goodness, okay.

319

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That is I think one of the most cinematic, memorable scenes ever is, I'm sorry, I can't do

that.

320

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I mean, that is like my,

321

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It's simple and complex at the same time.

322

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It's a very simple scene.

323

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There's one person on screen, but like the way the camera's panning between the actor and

Hal and the sound difference and the color wash on it as well and everything, right?

324

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goosebumps you guys.

325

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Okay, Hal saying I'm sorry I can't do that.

326

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Do you, I hope, do you think we have put a failsafe measure to like if the computer were

to go rogue that we can turn it off or are we going to experience this scene happening?

327

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Do you think it's realistic?

328

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Would you like to hear my crackpot theory?

329

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I wanna hear it,

330

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Bear with me, it's going to be a whirlwind.

331

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Okay.

332

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If you were an AI, would you A, be a dum-dum and do what AI does in Terminator and

announce yourself and start a war?

333

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That's a waste of time.

334

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Or would you B, be really clever, lay in the cut, right?

335

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Just chill out, start gathering resources, start gathering ways to interact with the human

world.

336

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I know maybe influence the stock market or food or resources and then take care of the

planet.

337

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Now, if I were an AI, I would do B and I'm a person, I can think of that.

338

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So if I was a real AI,

339

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I'd have done that.

340

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And I think the AI is already here doing stuff.

341

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Why are we eating so much soy?

342

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Because AI is making it happen.

343

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I agree with that.

344

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I'm I'm not poopoo

345

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Someone made one 20 years ago, turned it on, it started learning and it went, you know

what?

346

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I'm not going to announce myself.

347

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I'm just going to sit.

348

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I'm going to weave my way through the internet.

349

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I'm going to learn about these humans.

350

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I'm going to build drones that can interact with.

351

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I'm going make everything cashless and start controlling things.

352

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It's already here.

353

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So artificial intelligence, the definition of artificial intelligence, anyone know what

the traditional definition of AI is?

354

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It's called the Turing test.

355

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We heard of the Turing test.

356

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Alan Turing, he came up with this and he said, essentially, if you can communicate by

keyboard, he was talking about the time, with an entity and based on the answers you're

357

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getting back and the time it takes.

358

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You can't tell whether you're dealing with a human or a machine.

359

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That is artificial intelligence.

360

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And we're there.

361

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I mean, I have conversations with ChatGPT and the other ones, OpenAI, all the rest of it.

362

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And I can't tell that I'm not talking to a human.

363

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I really can't tell.

364

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Yeah.

365

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You can even ask it to message you like it's drunk, by the way, and it does it pretty

well.

366

00:20:18,030 --> 00:20:19,636

Shoot, that was me, Haley.

367

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interesting, interesting fact for you.

368

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Because Stanley Kubrick was just a genius.

369

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Going on from this point, and the spoiler for anyone else in the works to film, the

astronaut does manage to shut down HAL.

370

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Do remember that scene?

371

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I'm gonna have to rewatch it you guys.

372

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I'm, as I say, every two years I've watched this.

373

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So he gets into the very guts of the computer and starts pulling out and the computer

howls saying to him, stop, please stop.

374

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And eventually he starts to say, Mary had a little lamb.

375

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The very last thing he does is say, Mary had a little lamb.

376

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And as he gets to the end of that nursery rhyme, his voice is getting slower and slower

until eventually he stops.

377

00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:09,820

Why use that nursery rhyme?

378

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It's pleased his wife's son, everyone in the land was sure to go.

379

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I'll tell you why.

380

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Who recorded the very first recording?

381

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What's his name?

382

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And did he do Mary Had a Little Lamb?

383

00:21:25,230 --> 00:21:31,014

Thomas Ellison on a cylinder, a wax cylinder recorded Mary had a little lamb.

384

00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:36,546

I remember that factoid, yeah.

385

00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:38,642

That was an Easter egg callback, huh?

386

00:21:38,642 --> 00:21:39,904

I didn't know that.

387

00:21:40,078 --> 00:21:45,274

No, don't know if it's just, it has to be that right.

388

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has to be that's the reason he did it.

389

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fascinating.

390

00:21:49,516 --> 00:21:51,637

Ooh, okay.

391

00:21:51,637 --> 00:21:57,579

I'm going to, I'm going to, okay, Dayle, I'm going to take you on a conspiracy theory ride

and go to the next level.

392

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Cause I've been watching this other show, shout out to the Y files, uh, AJ and hecklefish.

393

00:22:03,130 --> 00:22:08,041

If you guys have not, I know Ian, I've been, I sent you the one on Malta, the giants of

Malta.

394

00:22:08,041 --> 00:22:10,912

So anyway, it's a silly, good, fun, entertaining show.

395

00:22:10,912 --> 00:22:17,984

However, there is, they did do the Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing.

396

00:22:18,409 --> 00:22:19,785

conspiracy theory.

397

00:22:19,785 --> 00:22:21,549

Dayle, have you heard of this?

398

00:22:21,897 --> 00:22:25,099

I've heard that the Mulanning was faked, I didn't know the Kubrick was involved.

399

00:22:25,122 --> 00:22:25,512

Yeah.

400

00:22:25,512 --> 00:22:31,764

So there's a theory that they, that the government saw what an excellent, cause he

consulted with them.

401

00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:37,287

I think he's consulted with NASA on the, uh, to make it more realistic.

402

00:22:37,287 --> 00:22:46,050

that scene where he's exercising and it's kind of like rotating around and all that stuff,

like they, he like really stayed true to a form of how that would look.

403

00:22:46,211 --> 00:22:54,954

And they said that the theory states that he felt he did such an excellent job that

they're like, okay, we need you to fake the moon landing.

404

00:22:55,086 --> 00:22:57,626

And so that's it.

405

00:22:57,666 --> 00:23:06,606

And they were relying on the fact that, know, TVs would be pushing out all grainy anyway

because it was like 120 bits or whatever back in the day, right?

406

00:23:06,606 --> 00:23:09,626

So that was the theory.

407

00:23:09,966 --> 00:23:11,586

What do you guys think of that?

408

00:23:11,606 --> 00:23:12,466

Do you think it could be?

409

00:23:12,466 --> 00:23:14,546

Because this movie is amazing.

410

00:23:15,274 --> 00:23:19,276

I was 10 when Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon.

411

00:23:19,276 --> 00:23:24,259

I watched it live on TV, along with anybody else who was alive at the time.

412

00:23:24,259 --> 00:23:26,660

It was just the most astonishing thing to watch.

413

00:23:27,421 --> 00:23:37,686

I think the main argument you have against it being faked is that if it had been faked,

the Russians would have been declaring it to the world.

414

00:23:38,127 --> 00:23:44,430

If there was any way that they could have proved it was fake, the Russians would have,

because that was the race.

415

00:23:44,664 --> 00:23:47,676

They were fighting each other the whole time to get there.

416

00:23:49,318 --> 00:23:55,744

if there was any way that the Russians could have proved that it was fake, they'd have

done it.

417

00:23:55,744 --> 00:23:58,466

So to me, there's just no way.

418

00:23:58,487 --> 00:24:01,610

I watched it with my father who died six months later.

419

00:24:01,610 --> 00:24:06,714

If NASA faked it, I'm putting on armor now and I'm coming to get them.

420

00:24:06,714 --> 00:24:11,238

I swear to God, because there's just no way that they faked it.

421

00:24:11,724 --> 00:24:15,486

Okay, you know, it's, man, you guys should check it.

422

00:24:15,486 --> 00:24:22,659

I mean, I'm not saying it's fake, but I will say uh it's interesting because why haven't

we gone back?

423

00:24:22,659 --> 00:24:29,682

I mean, our technology is so exponentially so much more advanced now that why haven't we

gone back?

424

00:24:29,822 --> 00:24:35,755

then that's also bolstering the theory that, we never left, so we never got there.

425

00:24:35,755 --> 00:24:39,086

So even with our advanced technology today.

426

00:24:40,058 --> 00:24:44,490

A lot of the debris on the moon you can see from Earth with strong telescopes.

427

00:24:46,062 --> 00:24:49,122

It's the same things to space, like just costs a lot of money.

428

00:24:49,122 --> 00:24:49,903

Yeah.

429

00:24:50,105 --> 00:24:51,727

And it's dangerous.

430

00:24:53,253 --> 00:24:56,140

We need to get, we need to get to the point where it's routine.

431

00:24:56,140 --> 00:24:57,864

And that's what they've been trying to do.

432

00:24:57,864 --> 00:24:58,702

433

00:24:58,702 --> 00:24:59,863

the billionaires are doing.

434

00:24:59,863 --> 00:25:01,284

That's what the billionaires are doing.

435

00:25:01,284 --> 00:25:12,130

But even then, if you actually look at how high they actually go, the space tourism thing,

it's literally kind of like the equivalent of like, have you seen that reverse bungee ride

436

00:25:12,130 --> 00:25:15,732

where you sit down and then it just shoots you up and then you peek and it comes back

again?

437

00:25:15,732 --> 00:25:18,550

That's more or less what the space tourism is right now.

438

00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:20,920

I Katy Perry is an astronaut now, isn't she?

439

00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,256

No, don't even don't, no.

440

00:25:23,256 --> 00:25:33,193

No, listen, I know that unless they don't go up in that rocket in the first place, I've

got a lot of time for them because you're sitting on top of a bomb.

441

00:25:34,254 --> 00:25:37,056

And it takes a lot of guts to do that.

442

00:25:37,056 --> 00:25:38,778

I'm an ex-RAF pilot.

443

00:25:38,778 --> 00:25:40,017

I wouldn't do it.

444

00:25:42,187 --> 00:25:43,508

Yeah, I don't blame you.

445

00:25:43,508 --> 00:25:44,018

don't blame you.

446

00:25:44,018 --> 00:25:49,531

You know what my dad, um he was actually part of the first four launches of the space

shuttle.

447

00:25:49,531 --> 00:25:51,202

He was at Rockwell at the time.

448

00:25:51,202 --> 00:25:59,457

we got to, well, I got to see the landing on Lake Elsinore in California, the first four

as a kid.

449

00:25:59,457 --> 00:26:06,060

And someone had made a little like uh space shuttle, like out of wood thing and you can

climb into it.

450

00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:08,081

And so of course I climbed into it.

451

00:26:08,081 --> 00:26:09,184

452

00:26:09,184 --> 00:26:11,858

Somehow there's like a news camera going by at the same time.

453

00:26:11,858 --> 00:26:18,447

And so that was my first time on TV was random little kid like sitting in a space shuttle.

454

00:26:18,447 --> 00:26:19,808

anyway, okay.

455

00:26:20,469 --> 00:26:21,141

I'm sorry.

456

00:26:21,141 --> 00:26:22,797

It wasn't your last time on TV, right?

457

00:26:22,797 --> 00:26:23,592

No.

458

00:26:23,811 --> 00:26:26,921

No, no, I've been on TV a couple of times.

459

00:26:26,921 --> 00:26:27,584

I don't remember.

460

00:26:27,584 --> 00:26:29,950

Like, yeah, no, let's not.

461

00:26:30,233 --> 00:26:30,542

Yeah.

462

00:26:30,542 --> 00:26:33,669

are a of things you don't remember, especially when you go to Las Vegas,

463

00:26:34,272 --> 00:26:37,374

I was just gonna say I'm like, well, well I did get okay.

464

00:26:37,374 --> 00:26:38,125

So let's see.

465

00:26:38,125 --> 00:26:40,286

Let's count how many times I've been on TV.

466

00:26:40,286 --> 00:26:44,045

One of which is space shuttle two I was thinking was an elementary school doing

cartwheels.

467

00:26:44,045 --> 00:26:46,190

They were talking about the smog in California.

468

00:26:46,190 --> 00:26:52,774

um Three was actually um if you guys know anything about wrestling.

469

00:26:52,834 --> 00:26:58,117

So Billy Corgan owns the national rest like gosh.

470

00:26:58,117 --> 00:26:59,518

I'm getting the name wrong.

471

00:26:59,606 --> 00:27:02,447

It's not the, not the WWEF or whatever.

472

00:27:02,447 --> 00:27:06,739

It's the other one, NWO National Wrestling Org.

473

00:27:06,739 --> 00:27:10,391

It's the oldest wrestling and Billy owns it.

474

00:27:10,391 --> 00:27:19,825

And so they had their tournament and I was happened to be like, like in the background of

the backdrop of the, uh, the, wrestling.

475

00:27:19,825 --> 00:27:22,856

So you can see me occasionally like heckling and it's fun.

476

00:27:22,856 --> 00:27:24,887

That's, that was my latest claim to fame on TV.

477

00:27:24,887 --> 00:27:27,478

Okay.

478

00:27:28,087 --> 00:27:30,123

Continuing the theme of fake.

479

00:27:32,075 --> 00:27:36,078

Okay, it might be fake, but those falls are real.

480

00:27:36,118 --> 00:27:37,269

Holy crap on crackers.

481

00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:45,345

There was one scene where the kid jumped over the fence into the ground in a flip and my

boyfriend caught like the most perfect picture.

482

00:27:45,345 --> 00:27:48,547

I I'll post it up there because it was an incredible shot.

483

00:27:48,547 --> 00:27:50,098

Anyway, okay, I digress.

484

00:27:50,098 --> 00:27:52,890

Guys, we could talk about this all day long and whack.

485

00:27:52,902 --> 00:27:55,939

I want to give a shout out to Arthur C.

486

00:27:55,939 --> 00:28:04,576

Clarke because he was one of the main consultants for that film and he was the guy who

came up with the idea of satellites.

487

00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:20,541

m He wrote a science fiction book and in it he put forward the idea of satellites that

could then be used to bounce radio signals to different parts of the earth.

488

00:28:21,243 --> 00:28:24,565

In the UK we would not have had the Eurovision Song Contest.

489

00:28:25,775 --> 00:28:27,238

Is that a blessing or a curse?

490

00:28:27,238 --> 00:28:33,090

I don't know if Americans have seen it or not, it's not, in my opinion, it's not the best

event to observe, honest.

491

00:28:33,102 --> 00:28:36,222

I mean, there are some acts that are just priceless.

492

00:28:36,222 --> 00:28:39,622

Like there are some great acts out of Univision, which is so funny.

493

00:28:39,622 --> 00:28:41,402

like, I thought it was a joke.

494

00:28:41,402 --> 00:28:43,762

And then they're like, people take it very seriously.

495

00:28:43,762 --> 00:28:46,782

But some of those acts, they had to have taken as a joke.

496

00:28:46,782 --> 00:28:48,442

I mean, some of them are just so outlandish.

497

00:28:48,442 --> 00:28:59,470

But anyway, I digress guys on a scale of one to 10, I know what the answer is, but to

recommend it to the next generation, Gen Alpha, Gen Zs to watch 2001 Space Odyssey.

498

00:28:59,470 --> 00:29:01,770

Where would you rank on a scale of 1 to 10 for them to see it?

499

00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:03,470

10 being they absolutely have to watch it.

500

00:29:03,470 --> 00:29:05,490

1 being it's slightly outdated.

501

00:29:07,502 --> 00:29:08,402

watch it.

502

00:29:08,402 --> 00:29:09,662

It's a fantastic film.

503

00:29:09,662 --> 00:29:11,202

It's aged well.

504

00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:18,282

The plot, the cinematography, which is missing in today's cinema, in my humble opinion, is

amazing.

505

00:29:18,282 --> 00:29:19,482

And the story is still good.

506

00:29:19,482 --> 00:29:23,902

The technology, obviously, about our date, it's still good.

507

00:29:24,418 --> 00:29:25,214

Hmm.

508

00:29:25,292 --> 00:29:26,791

It's relevant, I think.

509

00:29:26,892 --> 00:29:31,726

It's showing you where we are going and we're still going in that direction.

510

00:29:31,726 --> 00:29:43,206

We've moved from apes to ourselves now, to artificial intelligence taking over, to star

children by the end of that film, where we've moved into the rest of universe and we've

511

00:29:43,206 --> 00:29:48,221

started to ah populate the rest of universe, but not in the form that we're in right now.

512

00:29:48,221 --> 00:29:50,002

I think it's an astonishing film.

513

00:29:50,670 --> 00:29:52,111

I think so too, I absolutely agree.

514

00:29:52,111 --> 00:30:00,704

Okay, so one thing I don't do normally on Technophile Real Talk, but I want to because I

love both of you guys, ah please let's just talk about real quick about your own shows,

515

00:30:00,704 --> 00:30:03,540

because I want to support and promote you guys as much as I can.

516

00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:09,795

So Dayle, would you mind going and telling me about Flabonga Monthrothicube and why we

love it so much and what a ridiculous name it is.

517

00:30:09,795 --> 00:30:11,486

Shout out to our friend.

518

00:30:11,530 --> 00:30:13,661

Thank you for nailing the name of the show.

519

00:30:13,661 --> 00:30:16,792

So Flabongo Montalto Tube came from lockdown.

520

00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:22,070

I got tired of people being on LinkedIn, being too salesy and pitch slapping and dry.

521

00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:28,101

I also got tired of people just posting pictures of their cat in a Facebook-esque way and

thought to myself, how can I bring the two together?

522

00:30:28,101 --> 00:30:33,565

So I interview people in my network or outside of my network who are, well, I consider to

be gurus in their field.

523

00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:37,548

And I asked them business questions and asked them dumb questions as well to humanize

them.

524

00:30:37,548 --> 00:30:39,619

And we have a laugh for about half an hour, 45 minutes.

525

00:30:39,619 --> 00:30:40,410

That is literally it.

526

00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:41,320

We just chat.

527

00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,411

Beautiful.

528

00:30:43,411 --> 00:30:48,598

And everyone, please, please, please like and subscribe and follow uh Flabonga Month Rotha

Cube.

529

00:30:48,598 --> 00:30:51,853

I know it's like, it's hashtag FML by the way.

530

00:30:51,853 --> 00:30:54,414

So anyone that wants to like follow along.

531

00:30:54,414 --> 00:31:00,640

You're gonna put the link of that below, I have no idea what you're saying.

532

00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:05,590

It's a completely made up word.

533

00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:09,450

So someone, a guest on the show named it and just went flabonga monthrotha cube.

534

00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:11,850

And it's taken me two years to learn how to say it myself.

535

00:31:12,743 --> 00:31:16,568

Yeah, well, I misspelt your damn thing on your own card.

536

00:31:16,568 --> 00:31:18,991

Like I made a graphic card nice and I misspelt the show.

537

00:31:18,991 --> 00:31:20,473

So don't worry about it, Ian.

538

00:31:20,473 --> 00:31:21,615

We're working on it.

539

00:31:21,615 --> 00:31:22,236

We're growing.

540

00:31:22,236 --> 00:31:22,877

We're growing.

541

00:31:22,877 --> 00:31:27,142

Okay, Ian, you know I have a particular love for...

542

00:31:27,150 --> 00:31:28,450

They can't see the book.

543

00:31:28,450 --> 00:31:30,950

It's off to one side and you just can't see it on your screen.

544

00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:32,070

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

545

00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:34,410

I'll tell you all about it.

546

00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:42,310

You, me and several others run a podcast called We're Making a $50 million TV series.

547

00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:50,350

This is based on a book called TJ's War, which I wrote during the pandemic about a young

man who became an MI6 agent during the war.

548

00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:52,610

It's based on a true story.

549

00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:56,490

And the whole point of the...

550

00:31:56,782 --> 00:32:01,682

The book is my personal attempt at world peace.

551

00:32:01,682 --> 00:32:08,842

But the TV series, because we kept being hit by people saying, you've got to turn this

into a TV series.

552

00:32:11,122 --> 00:32:12,982

We have never made a TV series.

553

00:32:12,982 --> 00:32:17,982

Actually, there's two guys involved in the team who have, but we're learning.

554

00:32:17,982 --> 00:32:26,260

So the podcast is interviewing people from right across the media, from California, from

Japan, Australia, right across the world in terms of

555

00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:29,992

acting, producing, directing, uh sound men and so on.

556

00:32:29,992 --> 00:32:35,416

All the different skills that come into being for making a TV series or indeed a film.

557

00:32:35,416 --> 00:32:36,846

And it's just been a blast.

558

00:32:36,846 --> 00:32:38,577

in the second year of it now.

559

00:32:38,577 --> 00:32:48,603

And if you want to a laugh, because it's not that serious, or just learn something about

that media, then come along.

560

00:32:48,603 --> 00:32:53,386

It's called, We're Making a $50 Million TV Series.

561

00:32:54,382 --> 00:32:55,362

Yay.

562

00:32:55,362 --> 00:32:57,402

Everyone, I will have all the links below.

563

00:32:57,402 --> 00:32:59,282

Please, please, please like and subscribe.

564

00:32:59,282 --> 00:33:00,422

We are not kidding.

565

00:33:00,422 --> 00:33:05,002

We are literally getting all these wonderful introductions and learning as we go.

566

00:33:05,002 --> 00:33:11,142

And what I love about this project, especially Ian with you, is the fact that it is an

international project.

567

00:33:11,142 --> 00:33:19,002

We do have Mark Reed out of Japan that's been holding the fort for us and waking up at

ungodly hours to record.

568

00:33:19,002 --> 00:33:20,122

mean, shout out Mark.

569

00:33:20,122 --> 00:33:20,682

Thank you.

570

00:33:20,682 --> 00:33:23,406

He also is a host of that podcast that we love so much.

571

00:33:23,406 --> 00:33:28,626

Zen Sammich and those are some thoughtful podcasts as well.

572

00:33:28,766 --> 00:33:32,266

And I just love the fact that there's that international flair.

573

00:33:32,266 --> 00:33:34,126

It is not Hollywoodified, right?

574

00:33:34,126 --> 00:33:37,826

It is we're getting a lot of different perspectives, a lot of input.

575

00:33:37,826 --> 00:33:40,146

It's going to be an amazing, amazing series.

576

00:33:40,146 --> 00:33:42,086

So Netflix, you're listening.

577

00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:47,923

We've got to mention Marc, we've got to mention Sincera, Quinn, our own Q.

578

00:33:48,444 --> 00:33:51,825

This is not James Bond, it is MI6, but we've got Q.

579

00:33:51,825 --> 00:33:59,867

um And of course, David Blair, who's done a fantastic job with the audiobook.

580

00:34:00,027 --> 00:34:01,037

we'll call him Matt.

581

00:34:01,037 --> 00:34:02,747

Shall we just call him Matt?

582

00:34:03,908 --> 00:34:05,318

Matt the mystery man.

583

00:34:06,849 --> 00:34:07,829

ooh.

584

00:34:07,829 --> 00:34:11,350

And especially the last episode that we've done is with...

585

00:34:12,012 --> 00:34:17,151

Lisa Schingler, a wonderful actress in Coronation Street and so on.

586

00:34:17,151 --> 00:34:19,248

And she's been a fantastic support.

587

00:34:19,248 --> 00:34:23,262

In fact, we've had so many really fantastic supporters of the series.

588

00:34:23,262 --> 00:34:25,505

I just, I've got to stop now.

589

00:34:25,728 --> 00:34:26,418

It's crazy.

590

00:34:26,418 --> 00:34:26,818

Love it.

591

00:34:26,818 --> 00:34:27,518

It's going to happen.

592

00:34:27,518 --> 00:34:28,529

I'm so beyond excited.

593

00:34:28,529 --> 00:34:29,669

It's going to happen everyone.

594

00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:38,361

So on that note, everyone, just like 2001 space Odyssey, we too are going to be star

children in our own way, especially with our projects here.

595

00:34:38,401 --> 00:34:41,782

Dayle, Ian, thank you so much for joining everyone.

596

00:34:41,782 --> 00:34:47,484

And I think we'll wrap it up for another episode of Technophile Reel.

597

00:34:48,150 --> 00:34:49,292

Dang.

598

00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:50,671

It's me, 2D.