Welcome to we are already free, a podcast helping free people to

live their truth and be the change rather than spending too much time

fighting against what they don't want.

Have you ever felt overwhelmed by how many bad things are going on

in the world right now? Well, today's episode is

definitely for you, artivist Roaman.

Will remind you how to notice the good things right in front of you

which you might currently be missing.

Roaman shares how an Angel reminded him to stay open to life,

how trying to sell a car taught him about missing what is right in

front of us.

How even when things seem to be

falling apart, they were actually still coming together.

And many more inspiring stories.

Towards the end of our

conversation, Roaman shares the three foundations, or mantras that

he uses in his life.

I love the simple wisdom of what

he shares, so be sure to listen out for that.

I'm your host, Nathan maingard.

I was nearly crushed by my

attempts to fit into the box our society calls.

Being a good citizen, I now dedicate my life to supporting

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Now, please enjoy this

conversation with my dear brother Roaman.

What's up? Good to see you, my friend.

Kind of good to see you too.

We we're in the same colors.

Yeah, we're looking matched.

I know this was not planned, but

it means we're fully aligned.

Yeah, manifest that shit.

That's cool.

Where did you get that shirt from?

This shout out to my friends.

This is a California brand run by

all women. It's called Namaste as fuck and we

connected on Instagram.

I saw the day I think they left

the comment on one of my videos and I saw the name.

I was like, what is that? And then I saw what they do and

the ethos behind and I got in touch and they were super cool.

They sent me a few of these, which are now some of my favorite tank

tops and T-shirts So maybe they'll see this.

Thank you so much.

I love it.

I might need to get more.

Manifest that shit.

That's fantastic.

Do you know that joke about the

guy who, like, there's a hippie who's come and staying in at his

friend's house and he's like sleeping on the couch and he's

just he's been there too long and the friend comes up to him one

day. He's like, listen, man, like,

you've been here weeks staying on my couch.

Are you gonna leave anytime soon? And he says, Nah, I'm gonna stay.

Yeah, so that I think I stayed in the.

I stayed in an Airbnb somewhere and they had that and like a

little frame over the bed.

I was like, yeah, I'm in the right

place. That's a good one.

That's a good one.

I actually love.

I think I was thinking about Namaste yesterday or today about

how often I've heard people say it because Namaste the divine and me

recognizes the divine in you.

I mean, it's a beautiful thing to

really say and I know it's become a bit cliched in many ways, but at

the same time.

I was thinking about how often

I've heard people say that and then immediately say, like, yeah,

but fuck those guys like.

Namaste to. Everybody except them.

Yeah, it's a funny one, yeah.

Yeah, it is a powerful one and I

don't remember who.

At some point someone said, you

know, that's something that you can say inwardly whenever you meet

someone. It doesn't have to be because

sometimes saying it can come from a place of, hey, I want you to

know that I'm the type of person that would say namaste, but you

can say inwardly and still feel that and have that recognition.

And it's yeah, it's very powerful.

That makes me think of gift giving

and anonymous gift giving because i realize often a gift given can

come with the feeling of, oh, I can't wait to see how this

person's going to react or like, I can't wait to that feeling of

like, oh, they're so grateful for the cool gift they gave them.

And there's something about internalizing that or like giving

an anonymous gift that still has really a lot of value, but like it

just meeting someone, being like internally Namaste, like really

acknowledging. That's the space I'm practicing

coming from. There's something a bit more

subtle about that, because it's like you say it's not.

Then I'm the kind of person who says, no, I'm a stay and I need

you to know that all right.

And Speaking of, what do you call

a gift? Gift giving.

And do it, do it anonymously.

There's a thing in Italy and

probably other places too, where when you go to a what we call bar

would be a cafe.

So you go to a bar and you pay for

your own coffee, and then you pay for an extra coffee for the next

person. So then the person after arrives

and then they'll say, oh, this one's already paid for.

And then that person pays for the next one.

And then.

And it keeps going like that.

Yeah, I like that very much.

There's a thing around generosity

and abundance that comes up with that where I remember hearing the

story of like the sort of general Western mindset versus or in

comparison with the general Eastern mindset.

The one being like if you generally, if I talk to someone in

the West or even notice myself, I'm like, I focus so much on the

things I don't have or the people who have more than me and I heard

a story where they say, like if you go to a guy, you might have

even told me the story at some point, but if you go to a guy

who's on the street.

In India.

And he's just got, like, his little begging bowl.

And you and you say to him, like, wow, man, you don't.

Are you OK? You don't have much.

He's like, no i have a bowl.

Like that guy doesn't even have a

bowl. I'm good.

And there's like, such a difference in that mindset.

Yeah, the you said something about that.

We think about the things we don't have.

It became this kind of like inside joke in Costa Rica and the

community where I live in Santa Teresa where often.

You know, life was you have this awareness of how good life is

there when you're surrounded by people or maybe you're playing

music and when we're having these moments of like, wow, pure

gratitude for life, I started saying, guys, let's talk about all

the things we don't have.

This show the like contrast of how

truly like if you want to you could be in paradise and talk

about all the things we don't have and also you could just like be

present with whatever life is offering and it's more than

enough. Yeah, man. Infinite abundance

beautiful speaking of which, so I we were speaking a little bit

before, and I and you told me there's a story.

And I'm very curious to hear this story just as we get this show on

the road. And that is the story of stay open

to life and your experience of that around Costa Rica and how

that song came about.

And yeah, just give us that tale

yeah so to give context to those that may not have heard that song,

Steven to life is a song that I wrote a couple months ago.

And it was also the name of the tour that Sam and I went on in

Costa Rica, our dear friend Sam Garrett, we were organized this

tour for about two months, and we were thinking of names, brainstorm

in a couple and stay open to life.

We're like, yeah, that's the one.

So in my own life, stay open.

Life is a mantra has become a

probably the biggest one right now.

And the story which we have been sharing still open to life.

The song was the song that we would finish all of our shows with

when we were on tour and so we would share the song towards the

end to kind of like bring it all together and that last year in I

think June. Me and Sam were both in Costa

Rica. We were not supposed to be in

Costa Rica together.

I was supposed to be already in

the states. What happened is that I was

supposed to be in Costa Rica for just two weeks and then go to the

states to be with my at the time partner and I was never even

allowed on the plane as I was boarding my passport, my ticket

was didn't wasn't scanning.

They said sorry, your visa has

been cancelled. You cannot board this plane.

And I was like what you're telling me now, like I'm checked in, I'm

like I see the plane.

So Long story short.

They leave me in Costa Rica.

I am very confused, very lost, a

lot of pressure in my relationship at the time, which you know, ended

up not working out.

So all these things were happening

and Sam happened to be in Costa Rica at the same time.

So we're traveling together and we're both going through a lot.

We're in a very beautiful place, but inside there's.

Yeah, we're going through a lot in our relationships, you know,

separately. And there's a lot of confusion and

this one day.

We were I think just buying some

water or some like just stop somewhere for five minutes and

this guy. That this guy looked like a

homeless guy. And it came out of nowhere.

I don't know where you came from.

And he looked a little bit like

crazy. He had this smile.

Was like a little bit crazy, but not like bad crazy.

Just like not fully there.

But anyway, this guy came up to us

out of nowhere.

And he's just slipped at us and he

went stay open to life.

Like that 7 hour put like what?

And like I felt an explosion in my chest just like because I was the

opposite of woman to life.

I was contracted, I was tense.

I was in my head.

I was worrying.

I was trying to figure out life in my brain, which I don't know if

you figured out never really seems to work.

And he said saving the life.

And then honestly, I think he

disappeared. I don't know where he went.

It's just like it's gone.

And Sam and I were both like, that

was an Angel.

That was 100 % some type of Angel

messenger and I remember the impact that this stranger coming

out of nowhere and saying stay open to life not knowing that I

was going through a lot and that day I said I'm going to write a

song about this for sure which you know and then I did but.

Staying open to life has become huge because after that experience

of not being able to fight in the states, breaking up with my

partner and this is someone I was thinking of potentially marrying.

You know with our at the time it was a four, almost four year or

maybe 3 and a half year relationship.

And but after that.

I went from being lost and

confused and I don't know what's happening there too.

Life unfolded in such a beautiful way and somehow I found myself in

this little town called Santa Teresa on the Pacific Coast where

I met a bunch of really beautiful people.

Is wonderful community that pretty much adopted me, and even though I

was supposed to just be there for a little bit, then somehow they

someone offered me a place to stay in this beautiful place.

So Long story short, I've been living in Costa Rica for about a

year. And it's one of the best things

that ever happened to me.

And it came from something that

felt and looked and seemed like my life was completely falling apart

from my own perspective.

I have this plan.

I'm going to go straight for two weeks, I am moving to the states,

I am marrying this woman.

And then life goes, no, that's not

the plan also, and this is another beautiful part.

The year and a half before flying to Costa Rica thinking I was gonna

then go to the states I was in Italy, in frigeni, this little

town where I'm I am right now as well.

And I was alone for most of the year, about a year and a half.

And as most of us during lockdown during the pandemic, we were, you

know, disconnected and alone and lost.

And what was going on? What am I gonna do with my life?

But every day I would do.

By, you know, a little morning

practice with some yoga, some stretches, some movement, little

meditation, and I would take even just five minutes to consciously

visualize. Ok, what do I want?

Forget about how I'm gonna get there.

And how is it gonna work out? What do I want?

How do I wanna feel? Where do I wanna be?

And I would imagine myself on a beach somewhere.

It's a bit of a cliche, but that's me.

I imagine myself on a beach surrounded by beautiful people.

Freedom, you know, peace, community.

And I didn't know where it would be.

I wasn't even thinking about Costa Rica.

But I knew.

And I would sit and I would think

this is where I want to be.

This is I wanna feel.

And then I would kind of just let it go again.

It's locked down.

I can't go anywhere.

But it's it feels, looking back, that their intention, their

awareness of what I want to do to my life to look like and just

planting that seed.

In the universe, so you can, you

know, saying it to God, whatever terminology you prefer, it did

something because it's almost as if.

Then life responds and says, what do you want that OK, and it might

not look like what you want in the moment, or it might feel, yeah,

like your life is falling apart, but then it truly is coming

together and now after this experience this year and a half

long kind of process.

I can honestly look back and be

grateful even for the most painful and heartbreaking parts.

Because it was a brutal process to like let go of what I thought I

wanted my life to be and becoming again open to life in a way that I

could say, you know what I trust you like bring it on and then it

it's. Way better than what I could have,

you know, designed in my own head.

So stay over until life, I hope.

Yeah, it's a good one.

You should try it out never.

No, thank you, brother.

That is such a beautiful story.

And actually this seems like a good time.

If you're open to sharing the songs, they're open to life.

I'd love to love to have that definitely.

Only a fool thinks he knows.

Why some doors old being in

somewhere close? Sometimes it does and sometimes it

grows. And like a Beaver is flows allow

embrace. Give things for it all.

No doubt.

Fierce grace.

Now let it fall.

Slow down rephrase what's keeping

you small? Breathe out.

Be brave and serve the call.

Stay up, man.

Open to life, stay.

Open to life.

Stay up, man.

And to life stay up and open to

live. Put down the weight of your world.

Turn down the voice in your head.

For when you thought that you

could not can't be on, you were giving it instead.

Allow, embrace, give thanks for it all.

Now fees grace now let it all fall.

Slow down rephrase what's keeping you?

Smile breathe out.

Be brave.

And Sir, the car.

Stay up, man.

Open to life, stay open to life.

You gotta stay open to life, stay

up and open.

When the road isn't clear, nor the

answer is near, there is magic and work.

You gonna nothing to fear.

You got nothing to fear.

I will stay open and let some open.

I'll trust in life and give things.

I will see you then.

I'm hoping I'll trust in life and

give things. I give thanks for what it brings,

I give thanks for what it takes.

Winter, summer, fall and spring.

It don't matter.

I give crazy as I give praise for

brand new chapters, praises for the old, and I live in love and

life, watching the days unfold.

Watching my days unfold.

Stay up, man.

Both into life saving.

Open to life.

You gotta stay open to life, stay

on bed. I'm gonna stay open to life open.

Wanna stay open? man delay.

Stay up, man.

Beautiful brother. She's that song

is gorgeous.

We even got someone right now.

I'm actually listening from Santa Teresa, my alma that's awesome.

Beautiful, my alma indigo well shut out the Santa Theresa in the

jungle. Beautiful, man. What a gorgeous

song. It's also there's something.

Funny, I was thinking about this as well just in the last 24 hours

around like ending shows on a quiet song and that's something.

It's like there's a certain courage and vulnerability to being

willing to club.

To play that as a last song in a

show is like willing to go to that.

Well, I'm gonna make a.

I'm gonna.

What do you what's the word? I'm gonna make an amendment, as

you say that to what I said earlier.

And adjustment yeah so that was the cause.

Yeah, that's a good point.

That was, in fact, the second to

last. Song that makes sense.

The last song, so there would be, you know, I would play my set and

then Sam would play his set and then after people have been

dancing, going crazy, we would bring it back down to stay open to

life, very intimate, very gentle, like very heart opening.

And then we would do too blessed to be stressed.

You know, it's like massive mesh up with a bunch of other songs.

But yeah, there's something about bringing it back down cause like,

yes, it's amazing when we're out dancing and feeling and like, that

alone is incredible.

But something about like, really,

I feel like even when I sing this song just to myself, it really

grounds me. And there's something about even

just the melody that it feels like it helps me to come back here and

like, OK, I can stay on.

Staying open is not it i liked it

because in a way, you don't actually have to do much.

You just have to stay open.

Yeah, you just stay open and then

see what comes and how you can react but.

Yeah, like that.

Song that's beautiful, man.

Oh, it's beautiful.

There's actually that reminds me

of a story, this woman, Monica Kromhout, who is a South African.

She's called they call it the mushroom grand Granny.

She's basically is this, like, looks like a little suburbian

grandma like you never would imagine, but she's been serving

magic mushrooms, sacred mushrooms, for like 12 years from her house

in a little normal suburb in just outside of Cape Town.

And I I'm actually going to get her on this podcast at some point.

But we were chatting a while ago and she was talking about how the

first act, she'd been working with iOS skin and it helped her like.

Your husband passed on.

She literally just wanted to die.

She didn't want to live anymore.

That was it.

She and she just couldn't reconnect.

And then someone introduced her to Iowaska and she was like not the

kind of person to even know anything about that kind of stuff.

And she went into the ceremony and had this huge transformation and

continued working with ayahuasca.

But anyway, Long story short, she

eventually was introduced to sacred mushrooms and she took them

outside in her garden the one day and the mushrooms were like she's

literally said. I heard the voice of mushrooms

saying you are going to run a mushroom school at your house and

you're just gonna.

Help people to work with this

medicine. And she was like, she's like, I

don't know nothing about mushrooms, how am I going to be

doing this? And the mushrooms said all you

need to do is keep the door open and everything will be taken care

of, yeah, stay open.

It reminds me of the other story

which I think you shared.

I think you share with someone of

that, the meditation teacher, someone who was trying to do the

same and wanted to start this, wanted to start meditating with

people. And so she started putting the

word out and she said, you know, every Sunday at my house door is

open. And I think for a year nobody went

but she every Sunday she would still do it and keep the door

open. And then now it's like one of the

biggest. Meditation centers in the states

or something crazy like.

That I love that.

I don't know.

I've never heard that story.

That's beautiful.

I love that that's another one.

There's another one about a priest who it's like his journal that

someone found his journal years later or something.

And it's like.

Went to do a sermon today like

three people were there.

And then he did another one like

and 10 people and then no one and then five.

And then it's like and now 300 and then 5000 and like it's just.

But he just kept showing up, like just kept showing up and that was

a. There's some power there, and

that's keeping the door open, just like I'm just going to keep

serving in the way that it feels aligned.

I love that.

Umm, even, you know, you mentioned

we met in London, the Inspiral, the Vegan Cafe, and there was a

little stage and you would host the open mic.

I'm sure that when you started there was not a lot of people that

would go, but in the end we couldn't fit in the cafe and we

started doing shows in bigger venues and it was just because,

you know, you kept.

Growing up.

And then we came and then we kept showing up and then other people

came and and yeah, the power of.

Perseverance or persistence and

also really liking and being passionate about what you do.

And I often I get maybe like, I'm talking to someone or I get a

little message. Someone would say, like, hey, I'm

either I'm just starting to play guitar or just started writing my

own songs or do you have any advice?

And there's many things that you could say in that I often say.

But one thing I say is make sure that you really love it because

you will have challenges.

You will have days where you're

like, fuck this.

I don't wanna play for anybody.

Nobody cares.

Nobody's listening.

This isn't going anywhere.

Like it doesn't matter what you

do, they will be that often in the beginning, especially.

So the difference is, do I really like what I'm doing?

And do I feel like it's if it serves even a greater purpose than

just, you know, you sharing your own art, which is beautiful in

itself, then even more, keep doing it because it'll somehow it'll

work out. I love that this reminds me.

There's a part I don't know if you've heard of him.

Never Maria rilke.

It was.

I think a German saw it yeah so he there's a book of his called

letters to a young poet.

And it's basically a fan.

This is not like early nineteen, hundreds i think.

Don't know exactly when, but it's a good while ago.

And what a fan of his was writing letters to him and he was

replying. And this book is his replies to

this young poet.

And there's one quote, and I've

actually saved it.

I've got it here because a nice

when people will send me those kind of messages like, hey man,

I'm just starting like, here's a poem or here's a song like what do

you think? And i actually generally send them

this because I just.

I think it's such a good reminder,

especially when you're starting out what to focus on or how to

know if you're heading in the right direction.

And I'll read it to you.

It's a bit, it's not super long,

but I'll read it to you.

It's, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

So it says, please, you ask whether your verses are any good.

You ask me.

You have asked others before this.

You send them to magazines, you compare them with other poems, and

you are upset when certain editors reject your work.

Now, since you have said that you want my advice, I beg you to stop

doing that sort of thing.

You are looking outside, and that

is what you should most avoid right now.

No one can advise or help you.

No one.

There is only one thing you should do.

Go into yourself.

Find out the reason that commands

you to write.

See whether it has spread its

roots into the very depths of your heart.

Confess to yourself whether you would have to die if you were

forbidden to write this.

Most of all, ask yourself, in the

most silent hour of your night must I write?

Dig into yourself for a deep answer, and if this answer rings

out in assent.

If you meet this solemn question

with a strong, simple I must then build your life in accordance with

this necessity.

Your whole life, even into its

humblest and most indifferent hour, must become a sign and

witness to this impulse sheep.

Like Trump.

You need that.

I want those like reggaeton, kind

of like sirens like yeah, wow, that is huge yeah,

Please send it.

Please send that.

Yeah, please.

That's huge.

Yeah, it might be.

That might be one of the biggest

things I've ever heard yeah i love that it's so it's the perfect

response because i want to help people, you know, like, and I know

that feeling in myself.

I know the feeling of wanting

someone to tell me that I'm good enough, that what I've done is

good enough when that's actually not the most important thing.

And like a lot of people say to me now when they hear my poems or my

lyrics, my words, they're like, wow, you've got such a gift.

And I think to myself, like, you know what?

I think a gift is more than anything.

And I.

And not to say for everything.

I mean, I think for like, Michael Jordan.

Or like if you're a certain sports, etcetera.

But let's just talk about creativity in general, like.

I think what people call a gift is a lifetime of passion and

persistence and care and repetition and failure and getting

it wrong.

That's what people now call a

gift. So and say, oh, you're so

talented. It's like, well you could be

talented too if you dedicated 30 plus years to words.

Yeah, no, it's true.

They unless you're like a four

year old that can play Mozart.

Like that's a fucking gift.

But like otherwise, yeah, there's the behind the scene that people

don't see is the so-called what like the sweat and tears of fully

devoting yourself to a craft, whatever that is for sure.

Well, I'd love to ask you about so you.

You've had you've spoken out quite strongly in these times and I

remember at the time when you started writing those songs for

anyone who doesn't know Rick Ricardo.

I always want to call you Ricardo, but Roaman.

I know your name.

I don't know what to do about

that, because that's become a problem where people don't know

what name to use.

And now I'm also known as the

kundalini guy. There's this whole confusion from.

Anyway, but. When you basically started creating these songs that

were speaking out and basically using satire and song to point out

the ridiculousness of what's been happening the last few years.

And I remember you shared with me at some point you said, like,

people had been saying, oh, you're just hopping on the train and now

you just want to like, you just want to get on board the Corona

train and take advantage of it so people pay you attention.

And I don't know if you remember that or what you said, but I mean,

I do, but I don't know if you remember.

What was going on for you at that point?

I think, I mean, in the beginning it was is it was an even now, like

it's not a popular opinion to have.

So right that argument of.

I did it for the attention.

First of all, there was almost no one saying what I was posting at

the time. It was more like a.

Me venting musically.

Yeah, thing.

Well, so the thing that you said that really struck me was, which

was accurate, is that you were like, I've been doing these kind

of, I've been doing rebellion songs and revolutionary songs for

forever. And so the fact that you think,

like, I'm just doing it about what's happening right now and

what I see is, like, you seem to be have navigated this the way the

camps to me is edgewalker it's like you are, you know, you're

back home in Italy right now.

You're surrounded by a lot of

people who don't have the same opinions as you, and yet you're

managing to navigate this all with what seems like to me, with some

kind of grace.

So I'm just wondering what that

feels like to be an edge Walker, to be a voice for an unpopular

opinion and how you are navigating that in yourself.

First of all, I don't think I've ever felt as cool as a second ago

when you asked me what does it feel like to be an edge Walker.

I need that on a T-shirt Well, the Grace, if there was any, came

after losing my shit a few times for sure.

Especially in the beginning well.

It started honestly with me.

Just writing my just voicing my upset and disappointment and

frustration. Yeah, I was here in the garden and

it was morning and I remember reading something about lockdowns

that were coming or something when it was still, everything was still

quite fresh and like extremely overwhelming.

It it's just like what I do.

I write a song, like sometimes I

write little songs for myself that I don't share.

But it feels good.

Like some people write on a diary,

I'll write a song and.

I think at some point there was a

fuck it moment.

Honestly that was just a because

I've always been this person like big mouth saying what I feel.

But maybe among friends like you guys know me as sometimes they say

the thing that maybe you shouldn't say but I say it and but you know

I have a good heart then I don't really mean it or stuff like that.

But I wasn't.

I was still coming from a place of

OK like my social media presence was maybe more politically

correct. And I was feeling this inner

conflict of who I thought I was supposed to show up as given some

of the stuff that I sing about like songs, like be a friend, what

we need is love.

And then on the other side, like

wanting to start a revolution and like feeling so much anger.

So I think at some point I just couldn't.

The two couldn't coexist in either or manner, and there was just

like, fuck, I'm just going to say it.

Because it did feel like the world was going to shit anyway.

I was like, if I'm gonna like, if this is it, at least I'm gonna let

people know how I feel and I think initially.

Very bad reactions lost.

A bunch of followers still have

friends who don't speak to me or they have changed their opinion

like I'm talking old friends we know we have one in common and

other friends from university that just like, no i'm not talking to

you anymore, but then.

And I felt a lot of support.

In of coming honestly from so many places around the world because

everybody was kind of going through the same, a lot of people

simply saying, yo, you are voicing what I feel.

Thank you or it's good to feel like I'm not alone in this.

I thought I was crazy.

And this little online community

started coming together, especially on Instagram where the

seven, what I call the COVID nineteens, those seven videos more

to a different degree, all kind of went viral.

And there's, I don't know how many hundreds if not thousands of

comments. And they're all like beautiful,

supporting people. It isn't like, hey, yeah, we

gotta, like, fuck these people.

It's more like, wow, it's good to

know that I'm not crazy and that some people also feel the way I

do. And if nothing else, thank you

for, like, making me laugh about something that up until yesterday

was, you know, making me cry kind of thing.

And so I think it started with that fucking moment also because.

I do I do often reflect on like.

How do I use this?

And this platform, whether it's Instagram or the fact that, you

know, I sing and people listen, that's a huge privilege, you know,

like how, what am I saying? How am I using that?

And at the time it felt like there was nothing else that seemed more

relevant or alive than to sing about that about you know, freedom

and responsibility and corruption and all felt very alive.

So it started with the fucking moment, but then feeling like,

wow, this is like, this is going around and a lot of people are

feeling it. And so if I can keep writing

songs. Coming from what I honestly feel,

but they can, you know, make somewhat somebody's day a little

bit better or lighter than for sure I'm gonna do that.

So I did that for a while.

I don't know if they'll answer.

Answer the questions.

Well, it's interesting because, so

I have, as you know, this podcast is kind of new at the time of it's

not even officially out on any platforms yet.

I'm just, I'm recording and live streaming a bunch of episodes

before I start releasing them onto the podcasting net platforms.

And one of the other people I chatted with was this guy Pete

Evans and he, I mean I won't go into detail, but for folks

listening, definitely go and listen to that episode when it

comes out like it's what that guy went through.

I mean from millions of followers and I'm saying.

Dollars, it's not about the followers but his entire career of

that he built up over so many years that he had a huge community

on Facebook, Instagram.

He was one of the most well known,

sort of celebrities I guess in Australia.

And they he they crushed him because he just kept speaking his

truth and he said something to me about.

He was like, he's like, I kept waiting for the like Rage Against

the machines and the you know like the those kind of bands.

Waiting for the big bands who've always been about like, you know,

fuck the guy.

Like, not fuck the government, but

yes, fuck the government for what they're doing.

Like kind of fuck the government.

Like they if the government wasn't

doing shit that they're doing, then we wouldn't say fuck the

government, but they are so and I just and he's like, I kept waiting

and nothing and then he's like, and then I heard your poem talking

to me and then it's like I heard these other musicians coming

through and I was thinking about you and he was telling me that I

may have even said your name, but just like.

And he said he's like, I was initially surprised.

And then he said, but I thought, then I thought, well, maybe that's

the way it has to be is like coming rising up from the

underground. Is like, and that's also the word

radical, the origins of the word radical means that which rises

from the root.

And so to really be radical is to

be fucking rooted.

And that's important.

So for those of us who've always been to me, it was like the final

invitation to just, OK, either I'm going to keep pretending that I

don't see something off here, or I'm going to just surrender to

whatever unfolds and I'm going to speak my truth.

And that's like, I think that's the end.

But we that's the whole thing of like, this time is the invitation.

To really like the coronation, corona, the coronation.

And I think that's an important thing to remember.

So Alexandra is saying, i love your song.

I am spiritual.

Can you play it?

Do you feel like you want to play that song?

Yeah, with pleasure.

I just wanted to say a couple

things in response to what you just shared, because it's a big

one. I did something similar.

I felt very similarly to this guy was named Paul.

He said Pete Evans.

Peter, pete and I did a post

calling out the musicians that I've been listening to for many

years that I've looked up to for many years.

Yeah, a lot of these, like, yeah, we're the revolutionaries.

The warriors.

This and this and this.

And then I was like, wait, where are your songs?

Where's, like, nothing? Absolutely nothing.

So I did a post.

I was like, where are you guys?

And one of them? Got in touch with me privately.

Out of maybe six or seven and she said thank you for, you know,

calling me out, and we had a conversation and it was very

inspiring because she said maybe now is the time that the new

generation of. There's leaders and music or

people that are speaking out.

Maybe this is the time that they

rise. You know, it's not.

It's no longer about looking at those who have been kind of like.

Clearing the way, in a sense, maybe that's this is not a time to

follow. This is a time where you make your

own path, and that led into a conversation that it was about the

masculine and the role of the warrior.

This is something that I've been feeling a lot recently that still

today, but especially back in the day, there was, you know, the

Warriors were real and they were peaceful and they, you know, you

maintain the peace.

But if an invader comes, like,

we'll fuck you up, you know, we're protecting our family, we're

protecting our land, we're protecting our resources.

And that's something that I feel like we have lost.

So obviously ideally we don't get into a position of that's the

enemy and we cause if you make you know if you make some from someone

the enemy that's already like you already lost in a way.

But to have that spirit of this is not OK.

This doesn't feel right and nobody else saying something.

I guess I'm going to say something and see what happens and sometimes

maybe nothing happens, but.

Those two, the realizing.

Ok, maybe now it's up to us, whoever us is, I guess, whoever is

showing up and end the role of the warrior, which I'm still

reflecting on, like how does a warrior, quote unquote show up in

today's society with the tools that we have?

Because obviously I'm not going out with the sword, although I

might at some point.

You never know.

There's a guy with a tank and you're like, listen, do you know

this sword? Have you seen my sword?

Ok, someone asked for the spiritual song yeah earlier when I

said I'm also apparently known as the kundalini guy.

I'm not.

I'm not claiming that name in any

way, shape or form.

But while I was on tour because of

this song called because I'm spiritual, the chorus is kundalini

and so some people recognize me as like, are you the kundalini guy?

And then I would say, yeah, my name is Roma.

And then some would say, yeah, this is my friend Decardo.

And then it's just complete.

Confusion as the my the real

identity. Ok, so if you're listening, no

that this song was not written about you, so you should not take

it personally. I say.

I usually say this is a song that I wrote to make fun of me and my

friends, but mostly my friends.

Alright, headphones are coming

off. Namaste, brothers and sisters.

I'm glad you gathered.

Here are wrote a little song to

sing the things that I hardly ever see.

I used to be like you, just a fool in the 3D Until one day I woke up

claiming I'm a star seed.

So now I'm a coach, I'm a healer,

I'm an indigo child.

Technique pictures by a waterfall

and think that.

Wild, my favorite word is secret

and I use it all the time because it's really good for business.

Never said I'm always high because I'm spiritual and loving, like the

language that I speak.

I refuse to face reality.

I'm tripping once a week because I'm speaking with drew, stressing

as I burn a little stage.

I'm have to lose.

You know, I've been a golden cage.

Kundalini kundalini.

You see, I love to meditate, but only when somebody's looking.

I wouldn't wanna waste the chance to get another book and see my

coping mechanism is the smiling powered through all this shit I

should be working on.

Because that's for holy people.

Do well realign your chakras if your life is getting hard.

I'm sending love and blessings now.

Please wrap your credit card.

I don't deal with human drama.

I live in the fifth.

Dimension but the truth is, I'm

just craving your attention.

Gazzam spiritual love and light

the language that I speak.

I refuse to face reality and truth

for once a week as I'm spiritual, stressing as a burn, a little

sage. I'm have to lose, you know, having

a golden cage nalini kundalini.

Gina gonda.

That he needed.

And my call it intuition, but it's

just another thought.

I take no responsibility.

It's all the planets fall.

So where Mercury's in Gatorade?

I'm gonna be a bitch.

I put flowers in my lemonade and

call myself, for which I gave myself a name that I don't even

understand. I'm really good at nothing, but I

own a conscious brand.

See, I'm consciously designed.

As the young constantly bless that and I'll make sure the people

know. Have you even seen my Instagram?

I'm always in the focus.

I'm spiritual love and like the

language that I speak.

I refuse to face reality and

tripping once a week as I'm spiritual stressing as a burn, a

little sage. I'm have to lose, you know, happy

in a golden cage lady daddy? Kundali, Nikki.

Kali guided.

Without kundalini, nothing against

Kundalini is just people are silly and I like to write silly songs.

You're that tune, bro.

Did honestly while I was on.

While we were on tour and I played the song every time and every time

I was like, this is a better idea.

This is a better idea.

I shouldn't do this because we've been playing this like, beautiful,

like yoga studios, retreat centers with like these, you know,

beautiful people in this, like, why not always?

But like it's definitely the kind of place where it could go either

way. It could go, oh, that's a funny

song or like, people leaving.

Ohh they never you never heard

from again the culture which is you.

Never get invited.

Yeah, they tear my membership

sure. Man, that is good.

I you know, but it's to me that song is like a lot of your songs,

but that's like the perfect representation of your one of the

archetypes that you do so well, which is the jester.

And I don't know if anyone watch it.

Do you do you relate to that at all?

Is that something that you feel for yourself?

Definitely i love that like cheeky little bit.

Like I'm gonna say, yeah, i i'm the same in like I was going to

say real life, like not when I'm writing songs like that is

something that I enjoy.

Man, that song is brilliant.

It is so on point.

It's terrible.

Like I can think of so many examples and in and like I look at

my own life, like the times where.

It's amazing.

It's like the perfect mirror to either get very serious and go, Oh

well, that's terrible.

I can't.

No, that's not.

Or to go.

Hey, where is that? Where's that talking to me?

That's fantastic.

Yeah, there's a I actually this

is. Probably one of the first songs I

want to record like properly and put it out there.

And because yeah, it's also funny because if I sing it.

Like whenever I performed it.

Nobody got upset, but not because.

I'm sure somebody got upset, but because you can't say that you got

upset because then it kind of shows that.

You know, like, oh, then I'm talking about you.

So there's like, you just feel this, like, every now and then.

Like, you look at someone, like their jaw is low, tense, but

they're like trying to.

But yeah, if, like, the point is

if we can't laugh about ourselves and make fun of ourselves a little

bit, then we're kind of missing the point.

Mate, definitely so talking about just missing the point, I'm

curious to hear that story around the car and the car papers when

you were in California.

Yeah, yeah. That's another good

one I had bought.

This car from a friend.

It was a 1994 Red Volvo station wagon, and I drove that car for, I

think, about three months.

And it was towards the end of my

journey in California.

And a friend said, I'm gonna buy

it from you.

I was like, great, amazing.

He said, do you have the papers? I said, of course they're in the

glove box and a little, like leather booklet.

You know, there's like nice chunky with all the papers.

And at this point I'm in Joshua Tree, california, which is pretty

much the desert.

So I go in the car, I open the

glove box and the this leathery thing, there's like booklet.

What would you call it? Like a like a yeah sleeve yeah

yeah, something like that, yeah.

Say like a sleep wasn't there.

I'm like, oh shit.

Because i remember seeing that,

but I don't.

I did.

I don't remember, like, touching it or taking it out.

I'm like, whoa.

Where did I lose it?

There's no papers in my car.

I'm in the desert I'm supposed to

drive to. You know the friend who wants to

buy it? So I basically i looked for these

papers for this, for the sleeve for about 2 days.

All the I call friends like, hey, did I leave it at your house?

Like where could I possibly have left it?

I was really stressing out and I was yeah, like not having a good

time and my friend.

He said if you check the glove

box, I was like, dude, that's like the first place, like, come on, I

was a little irritated.

I was like, I'm not stupid.

Turns out it turns out I am second.

As I said, alright, fine, I'm gonna check the glove box again.

This time I opened the glove box and I noticed just what looked

like just some like scrap paper.

Sounds like maybe two pieces of

paper or three, just kind of like that in the glove box.

I was like, what is that? Turns out those were the papers I

had been looking for the whole time, but because I was so

convinced that they were in this like nice leathery sleeve which

existed except I forgot it was from the previous card.

Like it was never in that car.

Like another car that I had at

some point in the past had that leathery sleep.

And so i remember laughing like a like a fool at the fact that I had

made my life miserable because what I needed.

I thought would come in this other shape, this other form, so I

literally didn't see that what I was looking for was right there,

except it looked a little different.

Wasn't as fancy as the leather actually.

It was just some scrap paper.

But it is what I needed.

And I remember the thought while I was laughing and my friend came

was like, why are you laughing? Like an idiot.

By yourself, by your, guard, because I remember thinking, I

wonder how many other areas in my life.

How many other things I'm missing out on?

Because I can't see them because I think they're supposed to feel.

In a different way, or they're gonna show up in a different way,

or that they're gonna.

And it was a.

Yeah, it was a big moment for me because it you know, it's just

some scrap paper and it's just some documents, but sometimes a

little lesson that you can apply to so many other things.

And so it kind of inspired me to like, look again, whatever I think

I'm missing.

Like, look again, because maybe

you're not missing it at all.

You're just so stuck on the idea

that. It will be something else, which,

especially at the time I was in California, three months

traveling, there were many talks around spirituality.

And what like enlightenment, this huge word, enlightenment.

And was like and you get this idea, especially in the beginning

of a journey of a some sort of spiritual journey or that, you

know, enlightenment is gonna be like, I'm gonna be blowing like

the sun and I'm gonna be floating, you know, 3 feet from the ground.

And I'm always going to be compassionate and equanimous and

animals are gonna come to me and I'm always gonna be happy.

Which is bullshit like that does not what happens at.

All what wait? Wait, I mean, it might.

It might if you do it, if you're if your third eye is really open,

you might. That squeezy that third.

Yeah, so it's just it was just simplified a lot of things that

maybe my head were like, oh, made a big deal out of.

Well, to me it ties into what you were saying earlier about staying

open to life that you want in that moment, that you had a specific

idea of how life needed to look for you.

Move forward.

And so you'd actually close the

door on any other option and so you literally couldn't see the

other option that was.

I mean, it's an amazing story.

It's so simple.

It's so beautiful.

Have you ever seen there's a, there's a video that anybody who's

listening to this now where at some point in the future shout out

to future people listening to this and there's a video you can find

on YouTube. I think it's like awareness test

or something like that.

And I don't have you ever seen it.

It's just the video and the video.

There's a team, three people and I

have a basketball and the video says, well, fuck, I don't want to

give it away now, but.

Anyway, don't give it away.

I'm keen to it.

I'll put it in the show.

But it's.

Ok, I don't wanna give it away.

It's a.

It's a tiny example.

This shows you that if you are not paying attention to something you

won't, you physically won't see it.

And I don't want to say too much, and conversely, if you are open to

seeing something and if you are paying attention, Ramdas says.

If you go, if you drive through a town and you're hungry, all you're

gonna see is places to eat.

But if you go through it down and

you're sleepy, then you're going to see hotels.

So it's the same town.

But you're gonna be noticing

different things depending on what you think you need.

I love that.

I love her ramdas it's like the

story you just told about the glove compartment.

It's like those kind of simple.

It's such a simple story.

It's not it's not complicated, it's not confusing.

It makes sense.

It's like if you look.

Yes, of course.

This totally makes sense when you

hear the term.

We are already free.

What is that? What is that for you?

What comes up? That's a. That's a good one.

That should be like.

You should make like posters.

People can just hang in their homes and we are already free.

Or two.

It's like 2 parallel tracks.

I guess it's two different planes of understanding this.

1 guess the.

More umm.

Abstract and more spiritual.

We are already free.

I just wrote a song the other day called you already know and the

idea is i was thinking of all the things that sometimes people do,

sometimes really silly things to try and find a sense of purpose or

meaning or some peace.

And we'll, you know, go to the

Himalayas or we'll follow this guru, or we'll read all these

books or we're only, you know, eat crystals on full moon or whatever

it is. And we complicate things immensely

for ourselves, because really, we are already free.

And every great teacher that I've been listening to and that I've

been trying to learn from, they all point back to ourselves.

Whether it's Jesus saying the Kingdom of heaven is within you,

or is Ramana Maharshi saying, you know, God guru himself are one,

you are the self.

It's always like it's simple, it's

here. And it's now you don't have to go

out and find it.

And Sam, like I loved he had few

little stories that he would share during his set on tour and he

would say like if you if you can grasp it.

Then it's still something outside of you that you can lose, but

that's not what we're talking about.

That is already and.

If you quiet your mind and open

your heart, you will find all you need was inside from the start.

That's part of the song that I just wrote, so we already free

reminds me that.

The eye.

That I am beyond this awesome buddy, that I buddy that I get to

carry around the world and do life with.

There's something beyond that it is already free and that is the

more pure. And yeah part of me the part that

doesn't that doesn't that doesn't go, that doesn't change, that

doesn't leave and then the other the more like physical practical

everyday thing we were talking about you know governments and

lockdowns and laws and restrictions and.

You know the people in power.

But like, no, that is like.

We're all already free.

We'll hold the power we like when

we go. In the streets or when we're, you

know, at a rally or and we writing songs to protest against some sort

of injustice that we perceive or, you know, some rights being taken

away, some freedoms being taken away.

And this is the more the part of me that.

Yeah, my parents don't really understand.

They're like anarchists, but anarchists is not someone who

wants to just fuck shit up.

Anarchists is someone who doesn't

necessarily believe that we need an outside third party government

of old people that live a life that is completely different from

the life that I live.

How do you get to make the calls

as to what I can or cannot do when we look at the world, we don't see

the same thing, we don't live by the same values.

We don't.

So in that sense that sovereignty

of I get to make the calls and obviously like I want to live in

society, i I'm glad that there is some type of structure to keep

things going, but the moment that it becomes the authority.

That I've never agreed to, that you think you have over me to

limit how I get to express myself, where I get to go, who I get to

be. That's too much.

And I think something that many of us have remembered.

During this time, during the last two years, is that sovereignty?

Is that we're already free? Maybe we're taking it for granted

before, but the moment it gets taken away, you're like, what was

going on? And if nothing else, I hope that's

something that comes from, yeah, the last two years that people

realize, hey, we don't, we don't have to do things the way we've

been doing things because it doesn't seem to be working.

And if it did, it doesn't work anymore and it doesn't align with.

The world that we want to live in and the reality that we want to

create and yeah, the values that we want to live by and the and

what we want to bring forth.

It's an old.

Way and yeah, maybe it helped to carry on society for a while, but

no more and.

Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, beautiful. It's an interesting i i'm, I think a lot

about. It's like a combination of the two

things you've just been speaking about that is on one side.

We are infinite and so there's nothing.

The freedom that we have is innate.

There's no way that can be removed.

And on the other side we do have a physical body right now that has

external forces that are doing their very best to keep us.

In a certain track, and if we step out of that track, there's

challenges and what I'm wanting to or what I'm keep thinking about

and like asking to get the lessons that will allow me to embody that

more, is to remember that the body is that I don't need to defend the

body. Like if I if my truth means that I

need to put my body on the line, put myself on the line.

That is something that is worth doing in the same way that Gandhi

would walk into a wall of police who he knew they were going to

beat the crap out of him and he did it anyway.

There's some kind of a courage there that I don't feel like I yet

have in me.

It's like because even speaking my

truth, writing these poems, like having this podcast, chatting with

you, these things, I don't have a direct fear that I'm going to get

physically, like, imprisoned for this or something like that.

Whereas there, it's like it's that combination of realizing I am

spirit and I am also here now and I am free here now.

Even if they put me in jail or beat the crap out of me or kill

me, I'm still free.

And there's like a piece in that

that's really I'm.

And wanting to develop that

courage basically. Yeah, I feel you.

There's a I was mentioning Ramdas earlier and part of the work that

he did. For decades, he would work with

people in prison and jail umm.

And because he would say I'm in

the business of freedom, I'm not in the business of joy.

I'm not here to, you know, just make you happy.

I'm here to help you get free.

And what better time?

Then when you have to serve time and time is all you have.

And there's some amazing stories which to think you could elected

in a book of some of these inmates that through meditation, through

talks, through just like sitting with these teachings and you know

some guidance which like I can't even imagine trying to do

something like that, but some of these people that.

Their life turned around completely simply from that

realization, which I get glimpses on of every now and again.

And when I do get those glimpses, sometimes I imagine like fuck

imagine living my whole life from this perspective of I am free and

No Fear and no.

Yeah, just the purest expression

of who I am without.

Limitations and mind made stories.

It's a good place to be.

Yeah, I love that.

It's funny, I actually, when I did Vipassana years ago though, the 10

day silent meditation retreat, it's the only one I've done.

And it was in 2010 I think.

And one of the guys there was a

young dude. He must have been 18 years old and

he didn't know.

He was like, not sure that when he

came out if he was going to go to prison or not because he had been

caught sending himself magic mushrooms from Amsterdam to the

UK. And I mean, just the fact that

it's like plants, man, and it's someone dealing with their own

like, whatever, if you want to do that.

Of consciousness, anyway, that's a whole different story.

But he said he's like, I'm doing vipassana because if I go to

prison, I'll have something to do while I'm there.

Like I'll be able to practice.

Like I'll have this practice that

I could take with me pretty i mean, how's that for a responsible

action for a youngster? He's like, I don't know, like, at

this point, it's out of my control.

I may go to prison, I may not, but I'm doing what I can to make sure

I'm still empowered when I am in prison, if that's what happens,

that's pretty that's pretty rad.

That's badass, yeah, that's really

bad. That's huge.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm curious to know there's a anything just in

the last week.

Someone asked me this question

recently and I was like, this is such a nice question.

But what is something that you've learned in the last week,

something new that you didn't know before?

Well, apparently that there are carnivorous butterflies.

Nate Nathan actually just told me we connected like a few minutes

before we started this to try things out.

And I don't know how we got to talk about carnivorous

butterflies. No, I don't want to talk about

that. That's disturbing.

Something that I learned in the past week, I think something it's

not just the last week.

But the last.

Few weeks, let's say, but it's been definitely alive the last

week. I feel like it's i'm integrating

it more umm.

How the mind will try to come up

with problems even if there are no problems?

The mind.

Coming from, yeah, two months of

touring around Costa Rica, which were honestly two of the best

months of my life where everything.

It's not like everything went perfect, but even when things were

not going perfect, it's like staying open to life and somehow

things working out and feeling like really supported and provided

for and just the last year of my life.

But in the last month that I've come back and I've been just here

in this little town, like not a lot of friends.

So I have a lot of time to sit with myself and think back to

these experiences. And I've noticed how I've come

from this, like high, like, Wow, life is amazing.

I feel so like natural high.

And then.

Nothing has happened.

Nothing wrong has happened,

nothing bad has happened, but the mind was like try to creep back

in. With like, hey yeah, but how are

you gonna make that happen? Ohh yeah, but you think whatever

story the mind has and so I've been really sitting with.

There's this book that I read that I recommend to anybody is called.

Mystic path to cosmic powers by Vernon Howard, which sounds like a

Super Woo title, but is honestly one of the most like, straight to

the point practical books that I've ever read, and one of the

things that he says.

That I was actually applying last

night. Funny enough, for a personal

situation, he says.

Facts before feelings put facts

before feelings. It's so easy.

As humans we have this like reactions, these like, oh, I'm

feeling this like fear or doubt or insecurity.

We make up these stories in our head, especially as we're relating

to someone else.

You say something, maybe I

misinterpret it, maybe you don't express it in a, you know, best

way. But then I create a story in my

mind and then I assume that this story.

Is real.

And then I will have a reaction.

And now I'm mad at you, so facts before feelings.

When my mind tries to come up with these like little stories of, and

they're usually stories around unworthiness or stories around,

there's something that you should be worrying about right now.

Something's gonna go bad.

And then.

I'm really learning.

Not just from my personal

experience of looking back and be like, hey, even when stuff seemed

like it was completely falling apart, it was still coming

together like, what are you worrying about?

So I'm learning to.

Have that like split second where

I can kind of step out of that initial tornado.

That's like building up in my brain.

And be like no facts.

What are the facts?

Right now you are OK.

Right now you are fine.

Right now, like nothing bad has happened, don't create it in your

mind, especially knowing the power that the mind has to then create

your own reality.

If I think that something bad is

about to happen, chances are something bad will happen at some

point. So to catch that moment and facts

before feelings, to recognize that.

Even when I thought there was something to worry about.

There wasn't necessarily and in the moment, in the present.

If there is something that has to be addressed, then I can address

that. If there's something that is like,

OK, this is a problem, then cool, let's talk about it.

But otherwise, like if I think about how much time I've spent in

the past. Worrying in my mind about shit

that hadn't even happened yet.

Because when I was 14, that girl

broke up with me and cheated on me.

And then, you know, 19 years later I realized, wait, what I'm feeling

now. This is just a silly example, but

like realizing that we may still be carrying stuff that's old and

doesn't serve us and like, based on past experiences.

Then I, you know, I have this belief that I am not worthy of

attention or love or success or money or whatever it is.

And most of them, if not all of them, let's say most of them are

stories in our heads.

So learning to look at it and see

it for what it is, put facts before feelings.

So then if I do have a reaction to it or a response, I would say

rather than a reaction.

And the last few days there have

been situations where it would have been easy.

They should be like, i'm out or no, or I'm gonna worry now or let

me yeah, let me stress about this at night before I go to sleep as

opposed to like, no, like you're OK and if there's something that

needs to be.

And looked at and resolved or

figured out and you can do that, but otherwise don't.

Yeah, don't make your life harder than what it needs to be nice and

then Jonas asks.

I hope I've said your name alright

there, Yonas says.

How do you manifest the reality

you want to live in? Maybe a question to both of us.

How do you manifest the reality you want to live in?

Do I do? You want to.

I mean, I would, I would, but I am in no way shape or form an expert

in like at all.

Like I would point you to people

that clearly know more about.

This than me, one of them being

Doctor Wayne Dyer, I find is very good.

D3 has really good little videos about manifestation and Doctor Joe

Dispensa. I only read one book I know I've

heard. Not controversial.

Like some people love him, so people don't really like him, but

I've read one book called becoming Supernatural and that was.

It was huge in understanding just how like the brain works and how

that like really just practical things and things that are

actually happening in your body.

Chemically, physically, then have

an impact on how you perceive your reality.

In my experience, I really just.

i imagine.

Whatever I want.

And then I.

Start feeling the feelings that I would feel if I already had that.

And these are these gratitude, excitement, joy.

And then I try to stay in that place, vibrationally.

In order to rather than chase chasing something, i'm becoming

what? Jody Spencer says.

I'm becoming a magnet.

Or I'm becoming a magnet to my

future. And so if you, and these are

things that talking about it feels weird until then you see like,

fuck, that actually happened.

Like, I can't believe this is

actually like the power that we hold is massive and we don't

really understand it.

I don't really understand it.

See, I would say simply just try it out, even just as an

experiment, sit maybe in the morning for five minutes and just

imagine whatever it is that you want with No Fear.

And then, yeah, feel that and say thank you for that and plant this

little seed because then how things actually work, the

mechanisms, I have no idea.

But I know that doing that,

conscious first step of seeing it and then starting to act in a way,

whether it's something you want to change about yourself, a situation

you want to attract.

You start living that.

As if it was already present or feeling as if that was already

happening. And then honestly, life does the

rest of the magic.

I don't know how it works, but it

seems to work.

Beautifully said. Yeah I find for

me the and again i echo Ricardo.

Well actually I'm completely

enlightened. You should definitely listen to me

and here's the tears by my 12 week course that will let's discount it

now and only 10000 thousand dollars nine thousand nine hundred

ninety nine.

But anyway the so from my side

also like i feel like life is blessed me in many ways.

Like i think that when things shift for me is when I stop

thinking too much.

Myself and I think more of how can

I help just as far as manifesting goes like the reality I want to

live in is the one where people get what they need.

And so if I can be a part of that like being like where can I serve?

Where is my, where does my passion align with what people need and

then sort of like align myself to that.

And then and another thing that I think we've got you touched on it,

Ricardo, you talked about it is feeling the joy.

So I focus more.

I think like OK, i think I want

this thing like for example, like I want to live.

Life where I'm surfing three times a day or a week or whatever the

story I have is or I want a house or I want whatever The thing is.

And then I go into what is the feeling around that and actually

let go of a connection or an attachment to the thing itself.

Because if I can have the feeling, the joy, the peace, the excitement

of fulfillment, the presence, the what, the health, the well-being

the peace, the inner peace, if I, if that state, if I am embodying

that eight it doesn't matter what The thing is that I have.

It could be completely different to like you said.

Like if you had just been like, I want the feeling of just like

knowing that I can sell this car to my friend.

What does that feel like? Like maybe that you would have

been immediately found the car papers like.

But anyway, for me that kind of feels less.

I don't know, there's it feels more real to me that I'm focused

more on a state of being rather than receiving some specific thing

from the outside to make me feel a specific thing.

It's like, well, if I could just get to the feeling through

practice and then I do the same thing, I'll breathe.

I usually do it at the end.

So I'll as I start my morning

practice I will think what is the intention and for me it's almost

always abundance where because I've really struggled with

scarcity, the feeling of scarcity in my life, even though

practically on a real level.

I've had an abundant life, but

I've I constantly sabotaged that because of feelings of scarcity.

And So what I'll do is, at the beginning of my practice, I'll

sit, just set the intention, and even focus while setting the

intention with a smile on my face.

Like, just like, oh wow, I get to

set an intention.

What a gift.

Like, that's a gift.

I just get to sit here and set an

intention. That's awesome, and then let it go

and then do my practice breathwork meditation.

And then right at the end.

I will bring that.

What will it feel like to be abundant, to be in a state of

abundance? And then I take 3 deep, slow

breaths into my belly, my chest, and I move the energy up into my

head and I pause.

And then as I breathe out, I

really imagine that state I feeling of abundance or whatever

it is, inner peace sometimes I do, or health or and I'll just imagine

moving that through all the cells of my being and then out into my

energy field and out into the world, just like, wow, that's sort

of abundance.

Feels like and just feel that.

Feeling and yeah, so I think that for me that that's really like the

key piece is the state is what's critical rather than the actual

external thing. Yeah, the state for sure.

I was remembering now.

Because again, it may sound like

Super Woo woo and what they're talking about, but honestly, like

just in the last year and a half the stuff that has happened where

then I looked back and I was like, holy shit, that's exactly what I

was like before I even reconnected with the woman.

That I that then took me quote unquote to Costa Rica before Costa

Rica was even on the map.

Part of my visualization was I

would imagine myself on a stage playing for a lot of people and I

would imagine playing with like the lyrical moments with you guys

with Sam like and I would imagine the feeling of being like and I

would like see the whole thing like a movie in my head.

Like I'm on stage, the crowd's going crazy and then I say please

give it up for my good friends and then you guys come out and it's

just and some days I would get so into this.

Vision that I would have tears like of joy of like my whole body

would be like buzzing and I would actually feel like there were

however many people like in just ecstatic that we were there.

And then I would open my eyes, I would say thank you and I would

like send out in the universe and then I would kind of forget about

it. The letting go is a huge part.

I will not think I was like alright that's done that's the and

then I will go about my day and then and I did that for a while

and then. I went on tour with sin.

Somehow life conspired that me and him would be there at the same

time and we could do this storm cause and I remember being there

with him. And like every now and then, like,

I would look at it would be singing together, I look over and

I was like, this feels a lot like what I was imagining when I was

home by myself in Italy on lockdown.

I didn't make this happen until I've realized, whoa, this could

actually totally happen.

And then obviously you have to do

your part, but you kind of meet life halfway, or life meets you

halfway. In yeah, in magical ways that I

don't understand, but it does work, I promise.

Beautiful well, I think that's a beautiful note to end this on as

just because I was gonna ask you the final question was gonna be

like, what would you suggest? Maybe you want to fill it out more

in a different direction, but what would you suggest to someone who's

listening to this, who has realized that their life and the

way that they are perceiving their world and the way they're

experiencing their world isn't the way that they like it to be?

What would you advise? What would you do in that

situation to start shifting and transforming in the direction that

you want to head? And you again, you may have

answered that already, but just if there's anything else to add.

For someone who's realizing that.

Yeah, that there's that.

There's more.

That life is not what they

thought. Well, I guess it's just to

clarify, there's like someone who's sitting and see feels maybe

isolated and overwhelmed, like they see the world is not OK right

now. Like the financial systems, the

monetary systems, the education systems, like the whole thing is

kind of a farce and they want to, they want it to change.

And now what? Right, i would say, well, first of

all, you're not alone.

You're definitely not alone.

Sometimes, in this specific context, is just about.

What is the I saw that little meme, something that said like

you're your vibe attracts your tribe or something like that,

which again sounds super cheesy, but it's true.

And the people that see the world the way you do.

The people that feel the way you do can't find you if they don't

know that that's how you feel yeah.

So I don't know exactly, but yeah, be more of yourself.

And they might be scary, but, like, try.

Because how would I know? Like, maybe I wanna invite you to

watch a basketball game, but I don't know that you like

basketball, you know? So let people know you're like

basketball in this analogy.

Something that helps me a lot is,

to keep playing the three, kind of like.

Foundations that I, or little mantras that I have in my own life

is be a friend to yourself.

Be a friend to others.

Be a friend to the earth.

Be it.

But start being a friend with yourself.

Don't be don't be so hard on yourself.

Don't treat yourself the way you would treat a good friend.

With that, compassion with that, understanding with that.

Hey, like, it's OK, like maybe tomorrow we'll figure it out.

Or don't be.

Yeah, you don't need to be hard on

yourself and be your friend.

Number one.

Keep playing.

Keep playing is a huge one for me

because not just like, for me.

It's like, obviously keep playing

music but. It brings an element of

lightheartedness. You know, you could play in many

ways, but to keep that.

Yeah, that lightheartedness is

part of your life because it's so easy to, like, be really serious

and like obviously our world, our society forces us to, you know?

You know, there's not a lot of time for play.

And that's a shame.

This should be time for play, so

it could be a little thing, but definitely keep playing whatever

happens. And then the last one that we have

explored is stay open to life.

Just I feel like those 3 umm.

They can already bring a big shift and maybe it's not big at first,

but the persistence that we spoke about.

You know, sometimes if you change your trajectory 1 degree now, it's

not gonna feel like it's a low, but over time you're gonna end up

in a completely different place.

And maybe that's where you wanted

to end up all along.

Well, thank you again brother.

I will definitely be happily sharing this and for all those

listening to this after it's come out, fantastic.

And to all you who are watching live, be sure to check out Roaman

music if you haven't already on the gram ROA MAN music.

This dude is legendary.

His songs.

The only warning I will give you is that they will get deeply,

deeply embedded in your psyche and you will be singing them for days

and it'll be magnificent.

But it's like, there's that term

earworms. You think?

It's like, I don't know who, what country uses that term, but it's

like really they do.

They crawl inside your brain and

they're so good, man.

So yeah, and i like that.

There's like, if you're feeling like you're frustrated and you

need to start on the whole, like, lockdowns and the chaos of what's

been going on, start.

There, but then definitely move on

to. Spread on our side and the songs

that I really like.

Just a reminder of what we do

want. I think that's also what we've

been talking about is like we can only spend so much time focusing

on what is wrong and what we don't want.

And you said it earlier, paying attention, like where we pay

attention, that's what we see.

If you're hungry and you're

driving through town, you see restaurants like that just makes

total sense. So if you are hungry for a

connected life of meaning, purpose, the remembrance that we

are already free, community, like connection, the whole vibe, if

that's what you want, then pay attention to that.

Give your attention to that and you'll find it.

It'll be there.

So trusting that.

And again, thank you, brother.

It's a pleasure and an honour to

collaborate and connect with you as always.

And I don't know if there's any other last words you'd like, but

otherwise, thank you again.

Really appreciate.

I just want to say thank you for putting this together and for

creating this space for us to have this conversation and for putting

yourself out there and having these type of conversations like

we're already free.

That's revolutionary in itself.

So I just want to say I appreciate you and I hope this goes, this

goes far and many people get to listen not just to this

conversation, but to all the other ones you're going to have with the

epic people you're going to have on your podcast.

And I would just say, if anybody checks out my music and is feeling

it and wants to get more, I've started sharing weekly unreleased

new songs on my Patreon page.

Every week I've just, there's a

lot of loads of songs that are just kind of sitting in my in my

brain drawer that I'm excited to start sharing.

So that could be a place where, yeah, every week there's a new

song and then you also get to support my music musical projects.

God knows there are many, and it's a good place to connect.

Thanks again so much to my friend Roaman for this beautiful

conversation. We've spoken for years about how

we should record our conversations.

They often end up being so in depth and rambling.

Sometimes they go for hours.

So I'm really grateful that I get

to offer just this little insight, this little hint into what a

conversation between myself and this dear friend are like.

The best place to find his music and support him is just go to the

show notes podcast dot we are already free.

Com podcast.

We are already freecom and that

way you'll find all his links linked there to his website, his

Instagram, his Patreon, and you'll find out loads more about him.

I've also put heaps of the things we talked about, like the books we

talked about, the video of the basketball awareness test, which

which Roaman was speaking to, which is amazing.

I did it and it blew my freaking mind and a few of the quotes.

And as I said, yeah, just kind of some of the cool magical stuff so

I really invite you to take this opportunity to pause before you

begin the next thing you're gonna jump into after this and kind of

sit with what is it you would like to take away from this?

Like what is the value? What have you found inside

yourself that you didn't know you had?

What is it that you'd like to develop more of?

Or even what challenges come up in you?

What emotions rise up, whether challenging or positive?

Please let me know.

You can also leave a voice note,

which will also be in the show Notes podcast.

But we are already free.com and leave a voice note, ask a

question, ask for some support and I will put it in a future episode.

You know, please be a part of this.

Let's make this interactive.

I would love to know who you are

and what is alive for you in this moment.

I this podcast like it's hard for me to keep my words small because

I love speaking and I love sharing stories.

So I'm really trying to keep the intro like just to a few minutes

just to really get the info out there that helps people to enjoy

these conversations with people I find super inspiring.

And then I'm using the end just to kind of connect with you a bit

more for myself as I am and hoping that I can be of service and I

would really love to be able to support you as a listener.

So again, if you want to leave a voice note, send me a message I

get in touch, it's all again one more time at podcast.

Dot we are already free dot com and let me know your thoughts.

This is a new podcast, so yeah, go there as well.

There's a link there to leave a review.

That is probably the most important action if you're wanting

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If you feel like well more people

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Is yeah, go to podcast.

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And it makes a massive difference

like how many more people get to listen to the podcast when there

are more reviews.

So that's what I would just ask

and thank you so much.

Either way, enjoy i wish you.

Deep breaths.

I wish you calm.

I wish you connection.

And more than anything, the

remembrance that we are already free.