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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What if your self-doubt isn't a flaw but a sign you're here to lead in a whole new way. In this episode we explore how reclaiming your true self, the feminine, masculine and ascended, can unlock the magic clarity and freedom. Your mission's been waiting for

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: hi and welcome to the uworld order, showcase, podcast where we feature life, health, transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the coaches alchemist on a mission to help entrepreneurs and coaches, amplify their voice, monetize their mission and get visible leveraging podcasts and substack. Today we are chatting with Kyra

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Finley. No, Kira Finley. Kira is an intuitive coach. Aka heart creation, Doula, don't you just love that her passion is serving artists creatives and visionaries who feel a deep soul call to birth a new earth through their creations. Whether that's a business book, soul project, or nonprofit, she weaves in astrology the gene keys, as well as other practices and tools that have been a part of her journey to wholeness.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and she's also the host of an alchemical life, Podcast welcome to the show Kyra.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Thank you much. It's.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, no! I now I can't remember which one.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Kara, Kira.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, Kara.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm gonna have to get better at this like post-it notes or something you would think I would learn after I've interviewed, probably close to 500 people.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Wow! That's incredible.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Struggle with names.

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Kyra Finley ✨: It's fine care.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Thank you so much for having me.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. Well, it's really our pleasure to have you join us. So let me ask you the big question, are you ready.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I'm ready.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, what's the most significant thing in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Oh, no pressure. Play the jeopardy music for you.

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Kyra Finley ✨: We changed the world.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah, I think what is core to my belief is

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Kyra Finley ✨: coming back to the true self like when we peel away.

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Kyra Finley ✨: The only person we can ever change is ourselves the only person that we can ever really influence and affect is ourselves.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And

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Kyra Finley ✨: yeah, I think if everyone took radical self responsibility for themselves and and coming back to the true self which is the immortal Creator within each and every one of us. It's your God self.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and when you peel away the the layers of Ego and the Projections, and all this kind of stuff, then the world changes like your experience of the world changes. And then you're interacting with the world in a completely different way. So then, the world actually changes because we are creating our reality through our perception.

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Kyra Finley ✨: So yeah, I would just say that, like really coming back to the true

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Kyra Finley ✨: Creator being. This is why I'm you know. I'm just obsessed with with helping people come back to like. Not only am I creating my projects, and not only am I creating my songs, or my poems, or whatever, but I'm actually creating the world that I inhabit

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Kyra Finley ✨: when we reclaim that identity, and we liberate ourselves, then the world will absolutely be fine like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and that's it's 1 person at a time. But that's how it. In my opinion that's how it happens.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Kind of like a chain reaction.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Exactly.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: One person bumps up against the next person, and they bump up against other people, and the whole vibe changes.

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Kyra Finley ✨: It is absolutely, I mean war, and and everything that we see that is so terrible right now

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Kyra Finley ✨: is actually like, this is a little mind blowing. But it's actually only happening because our attention is on it.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And when we pull our attention back to

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Kyra Finley ✨: oh, I'm gonna create the world, the reality that like, I'm just, I'm so just responsible for me. And I'm not even gonna like register. You guys.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Then that's how the vibe changes like we start to change by what we what we focus our attention on.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think of that way with politics. In fact, I before the election I was talking to my husband about this. It was like, what if we just like all of us just ignored Washington? Would it just go away.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Think so.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I choose to believe that that would happen. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know my worldview is that my ideal world, I should say, is a world that has no borders we don't have to worry about, you know. Can you come in here and live on this land.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's just land we should be able to move wherever we want to move, and we should be able to, you know, harvest from the land and plant, and and just like enjoy being rather than defending stuff.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Look.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Well, you're.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is just stuff that doesn't actually even exist.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Totally. I mean, you're talking about the roots of patriarchy right there, like patriarchy started when we started owning land.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and and then it began like being passed down through the father line. And that's how we got the system that we have right now. But yeah, I mean, if you go.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I'm not exactly sure how far back. But if you go way, way, way way back in our history, like we were nomads, we were exactly what you're talking about like we just.

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Kyra Finley ✨: We just wandered and encountered other people, and there wasn't really a possessiveness about it. It was like, Oh, we can all coexist on this on this planet? Because.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I mean, have you? Have you seen her? She's incredibly abundant, you know. Yeah, we're all acting like there's a short short supply, you know which

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Kyra Finley ✨: I don't say that flippantly to disregard

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Kyra Finley ✨: where there actually is starvation, and because of our choices over a long period of time, like, yeah, there are challenges. But

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Kyra Finley ✨: yes, I totally agree with you, the more that we can simplify down to

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Kyra Finley ✨: yeah, just the bare essentials and and truly back to your original thought. Like, if we all ignored. If we ignored Washington, we'd stop giving it our our power

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Kyra Finley ✨: if we ignored a lot of things.

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Kyra Finley ✨: They're getting power from our attention. Our attention is our energy, and our energy is the currency of who we are like that.

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Kyra Finley ✨: That is the thing that we have to spend

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's it's it enslaves us. When we, when we buy into all of these things that are happening, it generates fear and anxiety in people, and they they sense that there needs to be a change. And so that polarizes people. And that's when the fights start. It's like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Do you have to be right. Can't you just like B.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yes, absolutely well, and

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Kyra Finley ✨: that I mean gosh! We're getting so deep. But that that goes into the idea of polarity and duality, and the idea that there are actually 2 things, you know, when there's Republican and Democrat, there's right and wrong. There's, you know.

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Kyra Finley ✨: good and evil. There's, you know, and it's actually all just

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Kyra Finley ✨: part of this like sphere that

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Kyra Finley ✨: everybody sees a different piece of. And if we recognize that, then that would be the end of war, you know. And the other thing I was just gonna say is also like, people are so easy to control when they're afraid.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And so

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Kyra Finley ✨: yeah, like there's definitely an agenda there if if they keep us afraid of the world falling apart.

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Kyra Finley ✨: One of my favorite teachers, his name is Rj. Spina. He says if it doesn't make you feel freer and lighter, ignore it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that will make you feel freer and lighter.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Guaranteed.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Totally.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Did it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and it's not like, put your head in the sand and pretend like none of this stuff exists, because, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we live in this world, too. And things do impact us. And we have to make decisions about things. And there's consequences for the decisions you make. But if more people took responsibility for the consequences and made decisions, intentionally recognizing that. Yes, this comes with a consequence, and I'm going to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: take that consequence

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because that aligns with who I am, and it might be unpleasant for a time, but nothing lasts forever. It's just going to be a season that I'm going to go through.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and if if we could live more like that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think we would all see a lot more magic in our lives.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I, absolutely 100% agree with you.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I mean, we have the systems that we have now, because we had as a as a

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Kyra Finley ✨: species. I think we had a desire to abdicate power like there was

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Kyra Finley ✨: in somewhere in our evolution. There was this I actually like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: how do I want to say this. We couldn't be controlled unless we opted in.

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Kyra Finley ✨: You know, and that

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Kyra Finley ✨: I love what you're speaking to of, like us taking responsibility for our decisions. I think that's how we got where we are right now is because we stopped at some point, and we wanted somebody else to make the hard choices.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and and the more that we can come back to, and it starts on a very individual basis, you know, and then, like you said, it's that ripple effect. But the more that we can come back to to owning our own choices.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Then, yeah, that is where the magic happens, because that's when you start to realize that you do affect your own life.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Stop playing the victim, and then you become powerful like, then you feel empowered.

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Kyra Finley ✨: So yeah, that's incredible.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Become the hero, because that's the only other role there is left to play.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Exactly main character, energy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And your story can be. However, you want to write it, and it's never too late to start a new chapter.

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Kyra Finley ✨: It? Well, yeah, I mean.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Put a period.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Turn the page.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Totally.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I've started so many new chapters in my life. It's ridiculous.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Got my 1st tattoo when I was 62 years old. It's my only tattoo, but.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I love it, I love it. I have yet to get my first.st You're inspiring me.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I I had henna

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the tattoo design I wanted. I did it in henna for a while, and it it that's pretty

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: like a year. I gave it a lot of thought about what I wanted and how how I wanted it done. And and then I just did it, and I feel really good about it.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Vietnam.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And my 60 year old sister. My dad is very. He's 89 very anti tattoos.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: cause he's of that generation new word, you know, only yucky people get tattoos, and so

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I show up with my tattoo in Arizona, and it's on around my ankle and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My sister's like Dad Dad Joe got a tattoo.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and she was totally meaning it, tongue in cheek so funny.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Hmm.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Let's talk about your program, which is awaken your magic. So I think that fits right in with what we're talking about here.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah, totally.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I really created this program. And then I'll just give a little overview. And then I'd love to touch on the whole like self doubt piece that you addressed at the beginning.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I really created this program from a desire I

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Kyra Finley ✨: I know you'll probably ask me more about my story, but a little bit about my story is, I came back to my creativity later in life in like I was about 37 38, and I had pursued like a completely different career path. I was in event management, and had a catering business which is kind of creative. But I was really always trying to build up these things so that I could go back and like I could create enough financial cushion to go do what I wanted to do.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And

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Kyra Finley ✨: and so I've experienced a lot of years of my life not doing what I actually love to do, and my passion is to assist people to bridge that uncomfortable

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Kyra Finley ✨: transition.

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Kyra Finley ✨: so yeah, it's a. It's a coaching container. It's 6 sessions. We start with an astrology reading and a gene keys reading which are not just like reading. It's like me getting to know you getting to know your dream, getting to know your goal. And then we take 2 sessions to really establish. I work with the feminine and the masculine energies. So we really take another 2 sessions to kind of establish

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Kyra Finley ✨: foundation and safety within you within your feminine so that you trust.

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Kyra Finley ✨: like you have to have a an internal safety and an internal home to come home to before you can like launch out and and take big risks, you know. So we establish that first, st and then we move to the more masculine energy where we start talking about like, okay, like, how does this actually happen? And what does this look like? And yeah, the goal is really to take people from like a place of being stuck and confused and like. I know I have, like you said in the introduction, like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I know, I have this thing burning on the inside of me that would actually make our world a better place. And I'm gonna like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I have one of these. It's a it's a fantasy trilogy that I'm writing. And I've I've told my friends multiple times like if I get to my deathbed and I haven't done this.

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Kyra Finley ✨: That's gonna be what I regret, you know. So I really wanna take people who have that burning passion from the place of like, yeah, but I don't know what to do. I'm stuck, or maybe I'm talking myself out of it, or I'm confusing myself with too many options to a place of clarity and action and empowerment so that they can live their dreams.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that so.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I do, too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, that that's just like it. So aligns with

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: what I'm doing in in terms of just like giving people a platform to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to be visible. And it's really we all need to be more visible because the world needs us.

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Kyra Finley ✨: 100%. And those of us that really have a vision. I, in my experience thus far we're the least likely to pop up, pipe up. We're the least likely to like

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Kyra Finley ✨: feel entitled to grab people's attention

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Kyra Finley ✨: because there's a purity of intention that is seated within most of the people that I've well, I'd say all the people that I've worked with so far, and everybody I've encountered in our realm.

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Kyra Finley ✨: There really is a purity of intention that, and like a devotional aspect

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Kyra Finley ✨: that can so easily translate to disempowerment, and doubting yourself, and like really cutting yourself out from under the, you know, cutting the rug out from under yourself.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And so yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt, but I just can't agree. I could not agree more like the world needs us to be more

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Kyra Finley ✨: vocal and visible and confident in the message that we have.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It sounds like what you're helping people with in terms of. I want to talk to you more about gene keys and understand what those are. But I know that with astrology, astrology is empowering

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for people, and you know, human design is another thing. I don't understand it, but I know that I've I've studied it a little bit for my own sake, and it's like it's just so empowering to know that you're here. You're designed with a purpose. I like to think that astrology when you get your birth chart. It's like the love note you wrote yourself before.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Oh, my gosh! That's what I tell my clients.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What?

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Kyra Finley ✨: Emma, that your soul wrote to you to remind you why you came.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Similar, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because that's all it is. It's like you have a propensity for XY, and Z. And these are the different phases in your life, and I didn't really discover astrology on a very deep level until I was much older, like in my late fifties. And when I went back and I looked at my birth chart. I was like, yep, that happened then. Yep, that happened then. Yep, that happened then, and so I can look at it into the future and go.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's on the horizon.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm I'm right where I need to be, and you know all the things that I was told all my life about, you know being bossy and pushy, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know all those things that you know are like daggers in my heart.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They were for a reason. It's to get me here.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Were designed that way. Yeah, astrology is a really, really beautiful shame, Buster.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Because it it does. It normalizes the the character aspects and the thing I like again. Another thing I another frame I like to put on it is.

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Kyra Finley ✨: it's like the character that you said you would come play.

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Kyra Finley ✨: you know, like we're all one consciousness, we're all one being, and we all individually incarnate into these roles within the play of life, you know, and if you

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Kyra Finley ✨: like. You actually came to play that character you didn't come to be like. If you're what are you, Aries? You must have a lot of Aries.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And Pisces.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Pisces. How did you get bossy then?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I don't know that come from. Oh, I want to see. My mother told me

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I was bossy a lot, probably because I was a lot taller than she was, and it was intimidating.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Do you know what your rising sign is?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Aquarius, no Sagittarius.

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Kyra Finley ✨: There it is!

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Kyra Finley ✨: I have a sad moon, so.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have an Aquarius moon and a Sagittarius rising.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Oh, you and I are actually similar. I'm Aquarius rising sedge Moon. So we're flip flopped.

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Kyra Finley ✨: But yeah, like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: if you know that about yourself. That also explains why you're doing what you're doing. Like the Aquarius is the Futurist, you know.

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Kyra Finley ✨: If you know that about yourself, like you really can bust a lot of the myths and live into the highest expression of your of your design?

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And then do you want me to go into the gene keys a little bit?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, okay.

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Kyra Finley ✨: So

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Kyra Finley ✨: Jean Keys is one of my favorite. I it's 1 of my favorite systems. It was for me I was actually in the Christian Church about 3 years ago.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and it was how I transitioned out into a much broader, you know,

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Kyra Finley ✨: form of spirituality that fits me a lot better. But so it's very near and dear to my heart, and it's what I always tell my clients is, if astrology is the note, the memo that your soul wrote you.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Gene Keys, show you the superpowers that you have in your backpack like. Imagine your adventure, and you've come to earth on a Mission and the Gene Keys show you like

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Kyra Finley ✨: the weapons you've got. You know you're like Tony Stark guns, or whatever

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Kyra Finley ✨: it's a system that was based off of the I Ching astrology, human design. It weaves all of it together, and it was created by a man named Richard Rudd. He had, like a 3 day mystical encounter received all this data.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and has essentially come up with 64 codons, 64 expressions of consciousness that correlate with our DNA. Because there's 64 codons which also correlates with the each 8

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Kyra Finley ✨: way to explain it is, it's an alchemical system that really aids in transforming your shadow states into

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Kyra Finley ✨: what he calls the cities. I call them your divine superpowers like. And so you're you're

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Kyra Finley ✨: able to see your subconscious programming and the shadows that have, like really been messing with you.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and intentionally just raise your vibration up that scale so that you can unlock more of your creative genius.

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Kyra Finley ✨: to give you an example like liberate. There's 11 keys in the in the profile. Liberation is one of my keys. Intimacy is one of my keys.

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Kyra Finley ✨: imagination. I'm a fantasy writer like it was fascinating to me when I when I saw my profile, and I was like, Oh, my gosh! Like it's like he's singing the song of my heart.

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Kyra Finley ✨: But I nobody had ever told me why these things were so important to me.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And now I look and I see, like my deepest desire is to liberate humanity from the ego.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and for to help people create more intimacy with themselves, and, like all of these things, come out in me so naturally and so I find it to be like a really really beautiful tool, especially with creatives, to

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Kyra Finley ✨: identify their superpowers, and again play to your strengths like you're you're wired this way. You're not wired to be this way?

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Kyra Finley ✨: So yeah, it's it's incredible.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: No matter how many times people tell you otherwise.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they get into, they box themselves in. They allow themselves to be boxed in by society's norms, and you should do this, and you have to do that. Things that you know. We all go through it. Nobody escapes childhood without some trauma. I've had 5 kids, and I've traumatized them all.

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Kyra Finley ✨: No.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I just like it's the way it is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's what jump starts us to be who we're gonna be.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yep.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then it's up to you to.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Didn't figure it out.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Go look at your astrology, and apparently we need to get these gene keys, and you offer a free masterclass on that. You want to talk about that a little bit.

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Kyra Finley ✨: a couple of months ago, I guess. And it's a 90 min class. It really just kind of lines out my my desire that the gene keys are very esoteric and woo woo, and I love that about them, and my desire was really like. Let me like bring this down to like super super practical level. And it just it teaches people

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Kyra Finley ✨: how to interact with their chart, how what this the shadow, the gift, and the city are

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Kyra Finley ✨: what the lines are like. Cause when you 1st look at your chart, it's like, what am I looking at

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Those those human design charts always reminded me of those connector sets the old. There's the stick, and then the balls.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. I'm totally overwhelmed.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That sounds like a perfect place for people to actually kind of get introduced to the idea. I know I'm going to be going over there to figure out what my gene keys are, because

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's really inspiring. I want to circle back to 2 things. One is that you were talking about. We all come here with a role to play.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We were also talking about. You know the the light and the dark, and the evil and the good. There are some people who are. They are love because we are all love in in the container of

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: some souls decide they're going to come down and be the adversary. They're going to be that person that helps you become your better self. And sometimes there are people that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: rub everybody the wrong way, but it doesn't make them a bad soul.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the devil! They're just souls who have decided to come. They have agreed to come and play this role on

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and it's kind of a service to people. And as we as we evolve and can understand that, you know they're

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: this is not their soul soul. This is just the role that they're playing. I had somebody mentioned to me, Allie. I think, Davidson, she's like the wind doesn't know

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It spoke to me of it's in. It's in opposition that we understand our purpose. And without that.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Totally. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. I

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Kyra Finley ✨: I I you know I haven't really like gone into my personal story, but I'll just say there was actually like an incredible amount of trauma in my in the 1st 30 years of my life, and so

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Kyra Finley ✨: I deeply know what it is to have that that rubbing up against you force and have that person that is like holy.

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Kyra Finley ✨: What the hell are you doing? You know?

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Kyra Finley ✨: lots and lots of methods that I know help people with. But like I've come to this place of like being so so incredibly grateful for all of that agitation because it does like it. It is 100% shown me what I came here to do and the role that I came to play.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and without that I know it. I know we don't like this idea, but I actually would rather have my story than have the story of somebody who's like sailed through life without any opposition, because they.

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Kyra Finley ✨: True, and

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Kyra Finley ✨: without that opposition, like you, you like, you said, like you have no motivation to actually find yourself

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Kyra Finley ✨: and the the primary command of our existence is, Know thyself like. That's the reason this all exists is because

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Kyra Finley ✨: the one consciousness had a desire to know itself intimately on all these different levels from all these different perspectives. And so, therefore, has created all of this.

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Kyra Finley ✨: and so it's our job to know ourselves and and that darkness. I don't know if you ever listened to Matthias Distefano, but he talks about that quite a bit

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Kyra Finley ✨: which again, even that word hasn't has a connotation to it. But it's actually just a polarity of energy.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And it's just the energy that comes in to force forward movement. Otherwise we would just stay where we are. And so

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yes, this darkness, this negativity, is actually doing a really huge service.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To humanity.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And therefore, in my opinion, deserves

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Kyra Finley ✨: respect, you know, like another perspective. To to consider is, those incarnations are not easy, like

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Kyra Finley ✨: and she was the primary abuser for a really long time, and it's still in that consciousness she hasn't broken out of it yet.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I would so much rather be in my seat than in her seat.

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Kyra Finley ✨: you know, like it's so much harder because we are all from love.

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Kyra Finley ✨: It's so much harder to hold that vibration

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Kyra Finley ✨: it's the more ascended souls who actually take on those roles because they're incredibly hard.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I I would have to agree with you. I I know who my abusers in life have been, and my mom was one of them, and.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and she's passed, but I know I still feel her presence, and it's really a loving presence that I feel for her. And I've had people like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: tell me that they've they're hearing from her. So I know she's around. But while she was alive we just we never and I do mean? Never. From the time I was very little I had

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: she would tell me often she didn't love me. She didn't even like me, but she didn't love me, for sure, just like experiences along the line, and you know

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: but it it again. I was the oldest of 3 girls, and we moved around a lot, so I didn't really have any outside stuff, and my dad was a naval officer. So he was gone all the time. It was really me, my mom, and my 2 sisters, where

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for most of my life, but it caused me to be able to be perceived as an extrovert.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because I realized that you know nobody's going to stand up for me unless I stand up for myself.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: label was because I just needed to protect myself, and, you know, bring it on.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's the worst you're gonna do to me. Not like me. Well, yeah.

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Kyra Finley ✨: That's already happening.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah, yeah, totally well, and that's the thing like those. And then those protector parts become the parts that we get to work with.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Broader journey, and like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: You know, soften the edges of but.

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Kyra Finley ✨: when I look at my own journey, I think the thing that I'm just the most grateful for is that I actually, that I have had to fight

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Kyra Finley ✨: for self-love like it's been a real effort, you know, because much like you like it just was not was not a given in in my home. It was. It was used as a weapon.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And that's what we came to earth to do like. We did not come here to play it safe or easy. This is not the planet that you go to. If you want it easy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, it's the planet you go to for an adventure. And you know, I can look at my mom, and I'm sure that you look at your mom the same way. It's like I can look at you, and I know that you were a little girl when you had me, and I know that you were struggling with so many other things in your life, and your own mother didn't want you either, and she told you that. So.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it. It was just like a normal progression because they didn't have the Internet back then. And my mom was just like as far away from her mom as she could get as fast as she could go.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and you know we didn't visit her very often. And my mother, it was just like

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Kyra Finley ✨: But that just was not. That was a not the role that she came to play.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I absolutely am who I am today because of who my mother was, you know which it's funny she and I had that argument one time, and I just agreed with her. So

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Kyra Finley ✨: But I am like I'm absolutely who I am, and I I honor her story like she had a really really hard life, and there

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Kyra Finley ✨: I've I've had mystical encounters and experiences where I felt the darkness

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Kyra Finley ✨: and the disempowerment that went all the way back.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I know what she was carrying, you know, cause I've had to carry it like it got passed to me. But but I think those of us who are stepping up now

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Kyra Finley ✨: you know, like, bless all the generations that got us to this point. Because, man, I mean, we're aware of all of this this now. They weren't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Normal for them.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Exactly like they had no consciousness or no awareness that, like it doesn't actually have to be this way.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: property. You couldn't have your own checking account. You couldn't open, you couldn't get credit. So you women would go to college just to find husbands. Now, colleges are full of women, and very few men. Men generally tend to go and do trades. Now.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: whereas, yeah, it's something like 70% of colleges are filled with women rather than men.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But it used to be different. It was kind of like a dowry that your parents gave you to send you to college, and you went and lived in a sorority where you had another mother watching over you to make sure you stayed pure and chaste, because God forbid! You know you gave yourself up before you found that man who would take care of you for the rest of your life, and most of those ended in divorces, because, you know, you're

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Kyra Finley ✨: He he would be in his mid nineties at this point way, about 3 years ago, but he

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Kyra Finley ✨: nod back to my love for artists like he was definitely a poet and a a frustrated artist at heart, you know.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And yeah, I think it's it's only been recently that we've awoken to the fact that

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Kyra Finley ✨: But yes.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I was just having this conversation with a friend recently about how how recent it was that women weren't even allowed to own property. And like it's mind boggling like it's been what like a hundred years, Max.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: 1967.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Rights Act was passed.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it wasn't until the eighties when women were really able to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: like venture out on their own. It it was, you know, your jobs.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: when I got the inclination that you know I could be, whoever I wanted to be, but usually it was, and and during that period of time women were expected to that. Yes, you could do whatever you wanted to do. There was the glass ceiling, of course, but you were also expected to have children get married. Be the best housekeeper ever, and be a fantastic cook, and entertain for your husband. I have a friend, and she she's really great creative human being, and she was married and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and her husband, and she had a career in her own right. But her husband was like he expected her to host all these amazing parties and keep an immaculate house, and he's like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Why don't? Why aren't you so great in your career? And she looked at him and said, Well, if I had a wife like me I'd certainly be at the top of my career, too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: She's such a pistol.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He did need that. But you know it was just

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: how men viewed themselves and what they were entitled to, and and women were just.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I know I bought into it. I bought into it for a long time, and I finally was just like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And we're we're seeing that

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Kyra Finley ✨: I mean on so many different levels. But yes, like, this is one of the reasons that the divine feminine

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Kyra Finley ✨: I hate to jump on bandwagons because I am an Aquarius rising.

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Kyra Finley ✨: We really need to get that part of ourselves back. And I don't just mean women. I mean.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Feminine energy within us. Ball

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Kyra Finley ✨: one of I I've been studying with a Hawaiian mystic for about a year. His name is Keone honnele, and he is

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Kyra Finley ✨: And he really talks about the feminine in a little bit different way than I have heard.

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Kyra Finley ✨: like which we've heard that sort of like about ancient societies and that kind of thing that they were more matriarchal. But within all of us the feminine is the leader. She's also the foundation, and she's the guide, and she's the safety and the belonging, the protection, even like we've out.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He's the warrior.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Exactly. We've outsourced all of that to the masculine and been trying to give it the masculine a job that's actually not his job like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And he he kept referencing like the mother bear energy like, think about it like you're in the woods, and you're going after a cub.

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Kyra Finley ✨: It's not the dad that's gonna come after you. You know, it's the mom.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Elephants are the same way. Elephants live in a in a society of other matriarchs, and the males kind of live on the outskirts, and usually they live solo, and they will come and visit the herd. But they live

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: which I always found very fascinating elephants also go through menopause.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I like elephants in case you didn't.

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Kyra Finley ✨: But yeah, I think it's like, really all of us coming back to that place of the divine feminine within. And then and then your masculine gets to be your masculine, which is.

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Kyra Finley ✨: he's the one that's in service to the dream that's birthed within the feminine. And so like

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Kyra Finley ✨: in a lot of ways. We've had it somewhat correct. And then it's like action and energy and bringing things into the manifest like that is the masculine.

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Kyra Finley ✨: But we've also been been giving him the role of leader which is not actually like.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And and what was fascinating to me is, as I started studying with Ioni, and I started tuning into my own internal masculine, my own internal feminine.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I could sense how exhausted my masculine was. I got so much compassion because I was like, Wow, I've been asking you to do something that you're not wired to do

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Kyra Finley ✨: So once we get those roles back in place. And this is what I love to help. People do like. Once you get that role, that role back in place like actually really touch into your feminine. Listen to her

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Kyra Finley ✨: like, allow her to be the leader allowed her to be the guide. Allow her to delegate to your masculine. And then what comes up from that space? And then your masculine is the artist. Your masculine is the is the.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I actually had a really profound experience once where my own masculine said, I am the liberator of your dreams.

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Kyra Finley ✨: so like that energy lives with inside each one of us, and he wants to liberate the dreams of the feminine.

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Kyra Finley ✨: So yeah, I think that's where we're headed as a society is like getting those roles

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Kyra Finley ✨: the internal workings within each one of us, because we all have masculine, feminine, and then the ascended self.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I, that's where we're going.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And and for women to be able to recognize in men.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that that's not how we were designed. And now we're we're moving into a place in a space where we can own who we are. It's not 2 halves

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: becoming one. It's 2 individuals coming together to create something even more amazing as a 3rd thing

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: retaining their individuality. And it's not expecting people to change, to accommodate you. It's being able to appreciate

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: those those beautiful aspects of that soul, regardless of their male or female that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they're here to express, instead of trying to like, dampen it down.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So how do you do your coaching? Is it groups, one on one.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We've talked about so much today.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I do both, actually. So I'm I. The program. The awaken. Your magic program is a 1 to one container and then I'm actually running right now a Venus retreat that is a Gene keys retreat for like a small group of women. So

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Kyra Finley ✨: I occasionally have group offerings. I'm dreaming more into that space because I really like the energy.

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Kyra Finley ✨: But yeah, I offer both.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And do you do them in Kauai?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because that's where you live right.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah, most of my clients are remote, but I do have a couple that are local. I've been doing mostly readings here, like with people. Wanna you know, face to face.

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Kyra Finley ✨: yeah. So most of it's by zoom, though. So anybody

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Kyra Finley ✨: anybody can come. Yeah. So how do people find you.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Let's see, they can find me on substack at Pheacus Moon alchemy, which.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Need to talk about that, too. So go ahead.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Okay. Ophecus moon alchemy, which is my sub stack. It's also the name of my business.

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Kyra Finley ✨: And I'm actually having the coolest logo design. You guys will love it and then you can also find me on sub. Sorry Instagram

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Kyra Finley ✨: at Kira. Dot Finley dot creates.

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Kyra Finley ✨: but I'm more. I'm on substack more to be honest.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because we love substack.

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Kyra Finley ✨: We do. It's it's definitely the place where

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Kyra Finley ✨: I just feel like it's a place for true creatives, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, it's a special space. It doesn't have any advertising. It doesn't have any censorship. People kind of self censor over there.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Totally.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Towards towards the vulnerable, towards the authenticity. People are their authentic selves, you know. If fuck's your favorite word.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: go for it.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're they're not gonna say.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And if they do, you know, there's that's what the block key is for.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Exactly.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just block them, and then they're never part of your substack experience.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah, it's like we're treated like adults.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Gosh.

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Kyra Finley ✨: you know. And and I will say this, too, about it like I I do think it puts, I don't know how what it is in the DNA of that particular thing of substack, but I do feel that it. It requires authenticity like

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Kyra Finley ✨: you are not going to resonate if you're trying to be someone else which you can totally do on other platforms.

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Kyra Finley ✨: So there's something really, really beautiful in the way that they've designed it, where it like kind of pushes you to be your most authentic self, which is gorgeous.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the more you Internet interact and actually connect with people and their content, the more the algorithm rewards you. And the more other people discover you, and then you discover them. And it just is like this.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: this magical party that exists over there. And it's just like so different from all the other platforms, and it doesn't matter where you land in the polarity of whatever you think about whatever there's there's a place for you. Yeah, if you're really into science.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's a bunch of science geeks over there. If you really end up

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: some math geeks over there. If you're really anti, whatever you're anti

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: your tribes over there, and if you're really like into the woo those people are there too, like us.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Exactly.

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Kyra Finley ✨: I love that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I so have appreciated this conversation with you, Kara. It's been.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Thank you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Great.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Yeah, same. Here we went all over the place. I loved it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, we did my favorite kinds of conversations.

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Kyra Finley ✨: Thank you. Thank you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Kira, and how she is bringing in the new earth. Please visit her sub stack at kirafinleycreates.substack.com. And please consider subscribing because all of the publications over there are community supported, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you're just going to get so much out of what she's bringing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and we'll be sure to put the links for the show notes or the links to all of her content in the show notes, including the keys. Masterclasp the gene keys masterclass.

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