Ada 0:00

Welcome to all things Health and Abundance podcast. This is a podcast where we discuss different health and abundance related issues and come with real tips and advice. Today we're talking about healing through pleasure. Healing through tricking your body into an orgasm with Tantra Teacher. Liv Seiff. We hear so much about drawing and healing through pain drawing because of experiencing moments that are really painful in our life. But what if there is another way? What if someone can grow and heal through pleasure? What is it like to heal through pleasure? How can one manage to heal them? That's what we'll be discussing today. And today with me is Liv Seiff. Liv is ready, master teacher and shake up Tantra goddess. She has a background as a journalist and photographer, as an artist, and with a broadly based education in everything from sociology and physiology to anatomy and pathology. She lives off grid in reverence for this beautiful planet, in the forest in the Oslo area, without electricity and water, surrounded by old trees, a kitchen garden and with simple and very powerful techniques, lots of love and humor and juiciness. She teaches how to move your sexual energy, energy, orgasms and energy sets for singles and tuples. So thank you so much for accepting to be here with us today. I'm really excited to talk about this, this subject.

Liv 2:08

Thank you so much for inviting me.

Ada 2:10

Could you maybe start off by telling a bit about yourself, your work, and what was the spark that made you choose Tantra and Reiki as your path?

Liv 2:21

So sometimes you don't have a choice. Really, for me, it has been such a big surprise that now, this time of my life, I have to work with the sexual energy, with friends. And when I teach tantra, I'm a different teacher from when it is Reiki, which was also such a surprise that we can be so many people at once. I'm kind of a very, very wild teacher and I'm loving the teacher of Tantra. So what led me here? That happened a long time ago when I signed up to my first Reiki course. I was completely burned out and then I started doing the self treatments. And what happened was that my sexuality woke up and had been married for years, and my sexuality was like, put on the shelf for good, I thought. And then Reiki suddenly, you know, started what is this? And then I realized when I entered my first tantra seminar, which was also from sex to subconsciousness, and you have to do it and you have to move energy. I knew how to have energy orgasms on my own. I think during that first course, they had the most satisfying sex of my life on my own. Just breathing. Wow. And that put me on the path I want to. I wanted to explore it more, and I wanted to teach this to other people because it was so amazing. Ada

Ada 3:45

Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Is that what you mean when you say you. Sometimes you just don't have a choice?

Liv 3:49

Yeah. Some say just comes into your life. Yes. And you can try to do other things, but it's much easier to just follow the path, do what you're supposed to do, and then things come to you. Maybe not as income like the first years, but when you do the right thing, you will always be taken care of. That's my impression. Yeah, well taken care of. And I have the time I need for making my courses and my workshops. They just they come and no idea what order they come in. I get an idea and then I have to write it down as soon as possible. And I work a lot with music because music is a mood changer, and it makes us loosen up and it makes us move into the body, which is which is actually what we're using. And we are working with pleasure, sexual energy, energy, orgasms. We have to be in the body.

Ada 4:42

It's interesting that you say that because we are so often out of our body and we don't even realize it. We are rushing here and there, and sometimes we don't even realize that we are in a place. And it's like, oh wow, how did I get here?

Liv 4:56

Yeah, somewhere else in our mind. Yeah.

Ada 5:00

Yeah, exactly.

Liv 5:01

And I found that a lot of people don't really dive into pleasure at all because they're not in the body. And when you start really feeling pleasure, you might feel all the other things to your sadness and, and everything that's in you, your anger, maybe your jealousy, all the all the bad feelings we're not supposed to have, which is totally normal to have, right? It's part of human. But sometimes not feeling pleasure is a way of not feeling anything at all. When you start working with a sexual energy. I started using shaking because shaking is so simple. Everyone can do it. Everyone can do it at home. But my shaking is with pleasure. That means enjoy it. And then people all of a sudden they move into this energy that wakes up feelings, pleasure, love and their sexualities. And then you are moving into healing, true pleasure. Wow. Amazing.

Ada 5:59

It's really amazing. So basically, so there is music there from what I understood. Right? Yes.

Liv 6:06

I use different kind of music. Okay. Very slow, but very, very often very dirty lyrics. Some rap music that is.

Ada 6:15

Well, that was unexpected. Okay.

Liv 6:18

Dirty lyrics I have the best collection of dirty lyrics in the universe, I think.

Ada 6:23

Is that on Spotify?

Liv 6:25

Yes, but don't share them because work is in the playlist. Always get the question can I have you playlist? Because people love it and it's music they know, but even together, in an order that makes them laugh, go feeling like feeling their amazing sexy bodies, right? Sometimes music and feel make us feel awesome, I think most of the time. So when you move to music, you dare to be hot, sexy, juicy, and that's also way into your body and into your sexuality and into the sexual energy. So use a lot of hot music and sometimes I call it that. So the shaking is super simple and actually anyone can do that at home. The thing is that you have to. You have to like every day, maybe a week. You stand straight, knees quite loose, and then you start shaking. But you have to shake. Very tiny, tiny shaking. A lot of times when you do that, you can shake. This is based on Kundalini shake. You do like with the whole body to release. This is for pleasure. So the tiny shaking mimics a full body orgasm. The body doesn't know the difference between mimicking something and actually having one. So you're shaking very very, very tiny. And then you are breathing and making sounds as if you're having pleasure. People are getting so shy. So make a lot of sounds, make them feel comfortable.

Ada 7:52

Yeah, I can imagine that.

Liv 7: 56

Right? Because it's a group of people. So you are shaking and making sounds in front of other people. Oh, some people get like, whoa, I can't do that. And I say, how you can do it? Your voice will not be heard when I'm making someone sound. And you can do this at home. I put on a very, very hot like upbeat song and shake every day for five minutes. Only five minutes, five minutes and you will see a difference from five minutes, everyone.

Ada 8:21

Wow. So there is music and there is shaking like tiny shaking because of course there is physical shaking during an orgasm. So it makes sense for me right now. When you said that, it was like, wow, yeah, that makes total sense.

Liv 8:33

You're making your body, oh, I love this, you know? Yeah. Right. And there is like orgasmic sounds we can call it. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Ada 8:38

And people then experience orgasms with themselves

Liv 8:49

sometimes. Sometimes it's, you know, it's like a lot of people are really not in their bodies, so they practice a bit. This works for everyone. If you practice like really sometimes people do it like once and then no, it didn't work for me and think,

Ada 9:06

yeah, of course.

Liv 9:08

It's like it's like riding a bike, you know, maybe you won't make it the first time, but after the fifth time, you really know how to do this, right? So you have to practice.

Ada 9:18

Makes sense. But like a kid, when it starts walking, it's not like that. It falls for the first times. And they said, okay, you know what, let's leave it. It's not for me.

Liv 9:27

Walking is absolutely not my thing.

Ada 9:31

Right? U1

Liv 9:34

So just practice and practice and practice until you get there and then you don't have any expectations, which is kind of difficult when you're trying to have energy orgasms. Right. But it's like if you are like, really? Oh, I'm going to have my first physical orgasm now nothing is going to happen because you're pushing it away. So they have to relax into the orgasm. You have to I'm just here. It's kind of nice, you know, and then it happens. So it's the same thing with shaking. No expectations, just doing your thing. And then notice what happens inside your body. It can be like a tiny tingling. It can be a twitch in the solar plexus. Like in the middle of your belly area. Or it can be like full fledged. I had people come to my workshop for the first time having several full body orgasms for the first time, so it varies from person to person. But practicing is never bad, it's always good. And the orgasm, it is like a orgasm. It is energy moving through your body, making your body twitch and curl and and your eyes move and your neck moves. So it's not really different, but you can have this on your own just starting the energy.

And what is a full body orgasm? Is it different from a normal one

you're having, you know, energy, sex and your own like moving into the energy or having physical sex and all of your body starts shaking at the same time. It's tiny, tiny, tiny shaking and it shakes absolutely all. You can't really control it. It's amazing. It's like your whole every cell is part of this vibration, and the energy is like going crazy inside you. And it happen just spontaneously from absolutely regular physical sex to our bodies. Our bodies has the hard wiring to do this. U2

Okay. Yeah. Is there ejaculation in men? Maybe it's a stupid question, but it just came to me. Is it is there a regulation in men during a full body shaking orgasm?

No, you don't have to. Not at all. I'm moving the energy. Like really raising the sexual energy in your body and practicing energy orgasms. Like in Sweden. They know what I'm talking about. So many people. Okay. Pletely awake. And in Norway, yes, there are quite a few here too, but not that many. And then you can have multi orgasms like as many as you want to without ejaculation. As a man to women we have the, the thing where we can have as many orgasms as we would like, right. But man, it's the ejaculation. The orgasm actually happens just before the ejaculation and it's not necessary to have it. But that's part of, you know, the normal way of having sex. But. With energy and energy orgasms. The male can have as many orgasms as a woman over and over and over and over again without ejaculating at all. Oh wow. It may be a bit of practice to stop it, but he can have as many as a woman.

Yeah, well that's interesting. It brings to mind the Yogi tradition of reserving your energy, holding your energy inside of you, instead of just letting it out. Yeah.

There are so many different traditions inside Tantra. Some they don't have ejaculation at all because they say it's really bad for the body and really taking a lot of energy. And then you have others that well recommend not coming all the time, like so. It's different. Different within different traditions. But believe that when you are young it's not that taxing on the body, but when you grow a little bit older, maybe maybe reserve them, not give away your life energy like that, right? U2

Why is there a difference between Sweden and Norway when it comes to people that are awakened to this?

I'm not sure. Actually, I'm not sure. This is still something I'm really. That is strange. So I have people coming to my my workshops and things in Norway too, and they love it. But when I first started teaching at Gothenburg Country Festival, I had a whole room of people in orgasm like second two. And to me it was like, wow, they're all like me here. So maybe they have just been on the path of Tantra for a little bit longer than we have in Norway, or maybe in Norway. People are more shy on a deeper level. Or maybe you're more, you know, constricted, like not comfortable in our bodies, in our emotions. But really, frankly, I have no idea why that's such a big difference. Wow. I didn't know that.

How can one go about connecting more to their body and to their energy?

So back to pleasure. Yeah, because when I grew up, I was a head walking around and this body was a mess. Through my teens, through most of my life, actually. And then I realized, you know, that pleasure. For me, pleasure was a choice. I made the choice to like it. I had to really, really like what I was experiencing. Whether it was like, soft touch or super nice sex or. But really be there in the pleasure. It taught me a lot about meditation, actually, to to be in pleasure instead of, you know, emptying my mind because pleasure is such a beautiful thing to focus on. The lover, he said to me quite recently, he said, you look for the pleasure, and then you stay in the pleasure until you know. And that is such an amazing way to the body, because you cannot feel pleasure without being in the body. And then we start loving this thing, you know, that's connected to your head and, and all the nice things that it can actually feel and sense for me now, I can have been practicing a lot. Not so. So I can have an orgasm just by thinking about it, just by touching my ear lobe. Wow. Smelling something beautiful like the wind through my hair, like all the senses and having a physical body is such an enormous pleasure for me. And it's wow. I went there and I was completely like a lot of people. Disconnected. Disconnected to my physical body, disconnected to my emotions. But pleasure opened the door. Think, even before I started really practicing. Making more sexual energy. Moving my body. Any good way, like put your finger on on the lower part of your arm, and then just move it slowly and be present with your finger. Be present in your arm as it moves. And think of it as pleasure. And it's such a simple thing. You can do it on the bus, you can do it anywhere. And wow, why have I never noticed that? So so making the choice to be in the pleasure. To light it, to light every sensation. Yeah. So those two being conscious actually about it. Right. And then you're meditating at the same time you just meditating on something else. Then the gap between what's you meditating on. The pleasure is the same thing basically your present and meditate pleasure. Two and to me, the part of healing through pleasure I noticed because I have like this private energizer parties where we were moving the energy together and having tons of energy orgasms and then doing a meditation or manifestation of the new earth. And I noticed that after like three days, people were like it. However, they were a bit like ashamed. They didn't really want to talk to me. It was like, whoa, what happened? And then I realized, when you move a lot of sexual energy, it's like a healing force just rushing through your body. It is very pleasurable, but it releases a lot of the things you don't need, like all the blockages, like putting all kind of stuck emotions into motion and making them conscious. And then you sort of connect all these bad things in the body with what you did, like three days earlier, moving the energy. And the medicine is doing it again as soon as possible. I then continue to move it and then have more pleasure just by moving the energy and having energy orgasms, you release bad stuff. So that is very pleasurable and an amazingly fast way to heal. U1 Okay, you have to be. So when shame comes up, just continue doing what you're doing and then it's your release.

I see so bad feelings connected to sexuality like shame come up. So if you continue doing it, then that's when the healing happens.

Yes. Yes, that's. And he's so amazing, so amazing,

I can imagine. I can imagine that being totally amazing. So there is healing the emotional level, right?

Yes, I believe at the physical level too, because we are one. Our emotions body, our minds. It's like one thing. It's all connected and what we think, you know, it makes an impact on the body. The body makes an impact on our emotions. ET cetera. So it all bounces back and forth. So when you heal your emotions or all stuck energy is leaving the body, the body will heal as well. And it will stop this emotions making you ill because stock emotions and stock energy. And we do that because there's not always enough time to heal when something happens, right? Strong emotions have to rush, have to go somewhere else, have to do something, and then they get sort of stuck somewhere in the body and you never have the time to pick it up, even if it's a small thing. Right. And the same with physical pain or ailments. They are sort of stacked on top of each other because there's never this time. But when you start practicing this sexual energy like pleasure, the energy rushes through and releases a lot. So when you start, it's it's a good thing to continue because then you will heal together.

So someone can also continue, like after a workshop, someone can continue doing this on their own.

I think that is the best to actually practice in between workshops. So I started to teach like weekend seminars finally. And then I really say that you have to practice. How do you take this home with you? How are we going to continue making this a part of your everyday life? Five minutes, ten minutes, maybe half an hour, just practicing this energy. And then you will feel more and more and more and you will feel more love. Love for yourself as well, because this is amazing. Opener of love, like sexual energy opens up love. It opens up sexuality. Physical sexuality becomes much better and then it opens up like I can call it consciousness field or psychological state. Now presence. That is intelligence in the universe. It opens up a portal to that intelligence as well. Awesome. Wow. People call it God, but you're not trying not to use the word because it's kind of connected to religion. But to me, it's been such a blessing discovering this. And sometimes I ask myself why I don't practice all the time. I should, but I think it's something in me as well as a little bit holding back on being really on on feeling everything in me, releasing all the bad things I don't need and maybe a bit of shame connected.

Okay, even after such a long practice you have had

isn't that strange? And I think it's like that with sexuality for a lot of people that sometimes when you had a really good time, shame might pop up and that's a good thing. Release it. We don't need shame. We don't. Okay, shame around our sexuality. It's it's the super amazing thing that when you heal anything in yourself, you're healing the same in the world. Like we are part of the whole and the whole is part of me. So when I heal, I heal out there as well. And sexuality needs healing. Ada

Really, because it's amazing that you that you talked about this and about shame, it brought to mind when I was, I don't know, a teenager. I hadn't had any sexual intercourse yet. And I was thinking, oh my God, but how can I do that one day? Then I have to see that person afterwards. Like, imagine how deep the shame runs

because I was like, what is possible? Like really forcing yourself in with sex, right? Yeah. U2

And it is, it runs deep, I have to say. Yeah,

it does. And it's a feeling that's a little bit difficult to notice because it can really it can, it can start at any time. You know, you're in the shower, you're looking at something and all of a sudden you feel as good something, something, something and then hides in your body. Healing deeply is also realizing how much gender is around your sexuality. Your body, like I've been doing, like practicing and very openly like it's still there and I need to notice it when it surfaces.

Understand. Can one heal sexual traumas, sexual related traumas through shaking and pleasure?

Yes, absolutely. There's a lot of sexual trauma. So much more than than you would think, actually. And a lot of childhood trauma. It's because there's something, you know, that needs healing and sexuality. I know this when I started going to tantra seminars in the beginning, that there was a lot of people that had experienced sexual trauma and it had a tendency to to sort of surface, they didn't know about it. And during the seminar, it came out in the open and people were sort of shocked that they were exposed to this too. And then crying. And but that is the healing, you know, so, so to heal something, you sort of you have to connect to it. I think Tantra is an amazing way to, to connect your sexual trauma and to heal and talk a lot about it. But I've been, you know, traumatized as a child and to me, I think that was part of the reason why I put sex on the shelf, because that was troublesome. You know, I didn't want to do that in my marriage and, but then come from the sexual energy and, and Reiki waking it up. I've been through so much healing, so much healing. Sometimes the wounds never totally leave, but my sexuality is like, wow, I can enjoy it so much and it helps me with everything else in my life. Gives energy. It gives, you know, the pleasure that can keep you going in the life. That can be kind of rough. It's not easy to be human being on planet. So. So to me, it's been amazing to heal through this energy. That's the word recommend that for anyone. You know what happened happened and you can be whole again. That's basically it. And maybe it will hurt a bit when you realize maybe it will hurt a bit during the healing. But then there is also pleasure at the same time. So. So I really recommend but be a bit a bit who you train with. Ask around, you know, how did you experience this teacher? How was this for you so that you don't get really traumatized, like you feel yourself put in the same position where you can't do anything or can't defend yourself. And so it's really, really important that it's a teacher or a seminar that teaches your strong borders and that you can say no, and that no is absolute right. You couldn't defend yourself then? Yeah, couldn't say no. Now you can. But that's also a one step like my borders. My no, no, I don't want to. And then practice, you know, sexual energy U2

and learning to say no but also for giving yourself or not say no at the time.

Absolutely, absolutely. You didn't have a choice. Then you have a choice now. So forgive yourself and you can hate that person. You did it for a long time, and maybe in the end you can forgive them too. We're allowed to be very angry. Yeah, but not with yourself. Not with yourself. Forgive me. This all.

Have you seen cases when someone is not aware at all that there has been sexual trauma in their life, and this comes up through this kind of healing?

Yes, yes. Grow.

That must be a bit traumatizing. Becoming aware of that.

It can be very rough. You've been, you know, living for some years, and then you're just shaking and breathing and doing your thing. And then a lot of things comes up in the open and the memory of it comes. Yes. Sometimes just that, this horrible feeling of sadness. And then you can have like pictures or memories. For me, it was didn't come all at once, but my body's been replaying it and a lot of control workshops feel that it is so huge that I own my sexuality, I own my body, and now it's more like the shame connected to, you know, society, especially woman or women and sexuality is kind of you might feel that we are opening up and everything, but in society, women are not supposed to be that sexual. And we are super sexual. We are like more sexual than men. And and all of that is forbidden. We're not allowed to. So it's a lot of shame around being sexual. When you are a woman, you're supposed to be like this or like that. And of course, we're different as well, especially a lot of shame in being female.

But why is it like that? It is so sad.

It is sad, but I think I think, you know, realizing it's like that accepting, okay, it's like that I didn't know. And then slowly changing it. Like I said, you know, I heal myself. Something in the world is being healed as well. And the same thing. If you're with a lot of women when you start talking about it, then we are healing. We are changing it. And I think right now it's the time of awakening on planet Earth. And of course, it means that also our amazing sexualities will awake, which is kind of not fitting in our society, which is crazy. So I've never really talked about it that female sexuality is stronger than male sexuality because we are taught the exact opposite. Right? And when you put a lid on your sexuality, of course, do you think that you're not that sexual and the men think that you're not so sexual? It's not good to be sexual as a woman in society, then you're kind of a slut or something worse. Which is crazy because sexuality is divine. It's the biggest connector to to consciousness that is. So I think take back your sexuality. Don't be afraid of it. And you do not need a man to be sexual as a man. You do not need a woman to be sexual. Experiment with the energy. I don't use my hands. But you can, of course. So? So just experiment. What kind of person am I in my sexual energy? And once the sexual energy is awake, you can have so much pleasure on your. Shiting, breathing. Got a lot of breathing cleansing hold exercises that I use as well. So there is so much fun in this kind of awakening.

How did this Affect your relationship. You mentioned that you were married at the time.

Yes. We had been struggling for a long time so it didn't save my my marriage unfortunately. And later I was kind of very, you know, strict with my boarders. 1s And then I experimented a lot, which was really good. And I've been in relationships and I've had lovers and I think found me. So if you are married and you're not having sex, which is incredibly common and crazy, right? Sit down together and make an agreement. We are going to wake up our sexuality, and we are going to have the best time of our lives, the rest of our lives. And it is possible making that decision together and then finding, you know, some kind of practice within tantra, within, like I'm working with sexual energy and pleasure and start practicing that together. And all of a sudden that marriage is so saved. And I think you will avoid a lot of arguing if you have a good sex life, of course, because it is such a release, you know? Yeah, you relax and you feel happy, and then you can cook something nice together and take care of your children. And because life is sometimes very tough, my hero, I got two heroes right to heroes. So one of them is William Drake, and he was a student of Freud. And he's like the forgotten student. He was kicked out of the good, you know, psychoanalytic society. But he was like checking out libido theory in real life. You had clinics. And he said that good sex. And he didn't mean a lot of sex, you know, because sometimes you can have a lot of sex, but not the good releasing sex. I think he was for ejaculation, but he said that the body is just filling up, filling up, filling up, filling up with all this bad stuff and then you to get it out right, or your body will harden and make this kind of body armor. And then when you release it, when you release it, oh, you become such a kind person, but you also become a very free person. You do not follow orders. You do not want to have a boring 8 to 4 job. What would happen if no one wanted boring jobs anymore, right?

Right. That would be great something, but I think probably would manage our way around it. So a different kind of society would be coming up.

Yes, I think so too. So maybe that's why I work with this. Think no way of stopping. I love doing this work. Like amazing. Yeah, having a couple go back to their sex life, waking up together and having the time of their lives. Wow. You know, we would have a better society just from that. We don't have to divorce. We can cure divorces. Yeah. Together.

Exactly. So have you experienced people like couples coming to your workshops and experiencing healing in there? So can someone heal that relationship? U1

You know, with my workshops, it's more like a big thing where people are shaking. And to me. So I'm not sure. And and my, my seminars, they are very, very new because I needed to go my completely own way. So not sure about that either really. But I know when individual heals and that individuals partner is healing and you think of that relationship that happened. U2

Yes. Can heal. Yeah. Yes.

We just relationships and love sexuality together in a relationship that's sacred. U2

Yeah. Made sense. What did you tell someone that is just getting started? Is there any recommendation? Some easy steps to take for beginners?

I would say that, you know, just practice the shaking and maybe do a little bit of writing about who am I sexually? And then you are out there and and just feeling the sunshine. The sunshine is there. Right. But have you ever like, moved into it? So doing the shaking practice and then sensing like, wow, this is actually very good, or oh, rain on my face, like really sensing rain. Like being so present that you can actually feel the rain as pleasure, not as always getting dark and and autumn is coming and but really, really be in the rain, in your body, in the rain. I think that would be the two best practices now, right along with who am I sexually? Maybe I was thinking about would a man think about that practice? He would probably think it's super boring, right? 1s But it's not. It's not at all. Everyone that does the five minutes every day for one week, they they notice a difference. They feel more alive. They feel better about themselves. They feel more, you know, hot and juicy. And life is really hot and juicy if you allow it to be, if you allow it to be that, oh, that mystery of pleasure everywhere, all the time. And instead we are stuck in our brains and in our worries and not noticing we're walking like, is that so? So actually just be here on planet Earth and oh no, autumn is coming in and then the snow. Snow can be amazing. Snow hated snow before I moved to the forest. But now you can feel the smell of snow before it's coming. Different kind of snow smells different way this sensations around everything that is becoming more and more in my life. And yes, I do get stuck in my head like everyone else. But then a little bit of gardening, like growing my vegetables or riding on my bike, feeling the wind. It puts me back in the body. Yeah. I think everyone should try this. Five minutes of shaking every morning.

Okay, five minutes of shaking. You know what? I will give it a try to I think I need it, really? So I will give it a try as well. It sounds very interesting and very easy. Right? Five minutes of shaking and just being in the rain or just taking away the connotation of autumn is bad. Snow is bad. What did you tell someone who wants to try it but is too shy or feels uncomfortable? It feels like they they would be judged and so on.

Actually, when you go into a workshop of any kind and my space is too, it is such good spaces to be in. There is no judgement. People are actually very busy with their own bodies and their own pleasure. And if you're working together, it's it's all about seeing the other one, seeing the beauty of the other one and just seeing that amazing person. So it's. It's a very, very good environment to be in. And and you can just really relax that. 1s If you get over that threshold, like actually opening the door and moving in, maybe you can stay in the back. And of course you can say no to everything. You can just watch, right?

Okay. That's a possibility.

Yes, that's always a possibility. Any kind of control workshop, and especially mine as well. And when I say, oh, make this sounds of lawmaking. And I go, ah, I say, but you can make animal sounds as well, like woof, woof, woof. And people start laughing. So I use a lot of humor to, to, to take the edge of the seriousness. Life is not serious. This energy is not serious at all. It's very, very fun. So maybe they can stay in the back. Let's just open that door, enter and be there. Say no to everything you don't want to do, because you're allowed to do that and know that the people around you, they are enjoying themselves. And if you are encouraged to to hug someone and still say no, or you can go all in and just be there with that beautiful other, and people are beautiful.

No, it's so nice to hear that one can just say no.

I remember when I was in my first tantra massage course, we were split into couples and I really wanted to say no because basically it didn't feel right and it didn't feel right with that person either. And this was not explained. So it took me a long while to go back to Tantra, because it wasn't explained that it was fine to say no in that tantra massage course. So I kind of started guilting myself or later on for not being able to say, no, this is not for me right now. I actually put all the guilt in me. So it is. It is nice to know that one can just come and say no. Yeah,

yeah. And I think that should be like spoken out loud. Any, any time you're working with the energy or any kind of tantra, say in the beginning and I usually call it the gift of, you know, and then if someone says no, you say thank you because they are giving you possibility to, okay, all right. You are really honoring yourself.. So, so yeah.

Amazing. Thank you

Yeah. It's about honoring yourself. It's absolutely beautiful.

How can someone learn more about this topic?

Well, you can go to a festival and then you just choose the kind of workshops you want to go to. You can sign up for a course seminar was a very good way. There are some really good books. My recommendation is one book called Urban Tantra. Just go.

Yeah, I'm reading that right now. Interesting. It's a really good book. It's so touchable, so easy.

Yes. And so absolutely recommend. And then there's a lot of stuff, of course, on the internet, YouTube as well. It's moving the energy coming to one of my workshops and like being crazy for a while. It's good. Or signing up for one of my seminars. So so I think there's so many ways of doing this, and it's like I made the choice once to be in my pleasure and to really feel pleasure. So it's that choice. It makes life larger. And I think I think it's a way to wake up. I think we're here to wake up. All of us like to reach enlightenment. This sounds very serious. I don't think enlightenment is serious at all. So working with your sexuality, your sexual energy, and your orgasms and pleasure, it's a way of reaching enlightenment. That should be a very good reason, right? U2

That's a really good reason for me, actually, isn't it? Now with me, Tantra. Even more interesting for me.

Beautiful.

How can people come in contact with you? Find out about your seminars, your workshops. And are you planning something in Norway?

Yes. I just had my first seminar. It was called Tantra Extravaganza. To think in maybe January, February I will have the seminar number one. I will even do an initiation to to make people start, which is like, wow, finally I'm doing wow. Yes. And then there will be a follow up to the pottery. I think some sometimes in the summer I think. So you go to my website w w w live site. Com 1s and then you check out, you know, the next workshop or the next festival will be at. So the next one now is in Gothenburg and it's the sweetest Hunter festival ever. And it's not that far from Oslo. It's very close. No, not at all.

Okay. Interesting. Is there something online that you would recommend?

Not yet. Not yet because people got so sick and tired of online. But yeah, might might do that because after the seminars we definitely need a follow up. I had like workshop called Shake Your Sexy Body, which was more like practicing twice a month. The energy, because practicing together is even better than practicing alone because there's so much energy in the room. But I will make a tantra lab in the center of Oslo.

Oh, interesting.

Where will put all my experimental workshops out and see what people think about them and try out new stuff. And it's going to be really, really a lot of fun.

This is really interesting. Looking forward to that.

Yes. And that would be on my website pretty soon.

Yeah. Okay. So the best way is actually to check your website.

Check my website.,

Are there any last messages for someone who is maybe just starting in the path, not really knowing what to do?

I think, like the words that come to mind. My mind is enjoy everything. Go for pleasure. Go for being in your body. Go for enjoying the things that you have in your life. And it gives all this, all this presents. It's the best way to start practicing the energy. The more present, the more energy is going to move through your body when it is awakened. So start by just enjoying life as it is. And yeah, it's all right to be angry and sad about what's going on. And then there's little jewels all the time that you can enjoy. Like now the leaves are changing color. That is so beautiful, right? So that these tiny, tiny things, that is an excuse for the rest of your life. That's bad. But just like glimpses of beauty and enjoyment.

So find the glimpses of beauty in everything and enjoy everything and be in the present. That was beautiful. Thank you for ending it in such a beautiful tone. It was lovely. Lovely to have you here with us today. I myself learned a lot today, so thank you so, so much.

Thank you so much for having me here.

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