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[00:01:03] Eric Goranson: You know, guys, I love home technology and what it can do to make our jobs easier.

[00:01:10] Eric Goranson: We've got Tony here from Origin AI. Welcome to Around the House, my

[00:01:15] Tony Nicolaidis: friend. Thank you very much, Eric. It's great to be here. How are you?

[00:01:18] Eric Goranson: Good, man. I love what you guys are doing out there because, you know, we went through this period of smart home stuff and it got kind of crazy, right, where your rice maker was giving you the weather and stuff like that, that had no value to things.

[00:01:34] Tony Nicolaidis: And now you're

[00:01:34] Eric Goranson: doing some stuff out there that's groundbreaking to make, well, owning a home a lot

[00:01:39] Tony Nicolaidis: easier. Absolutely. You know, and it's funny that you say that because sure enough, the smart home is evolving. A lot of the stuff before was maybe not adding a tremendous value, amount of value, but it had more of a cool factor.

[00:01:52] Tony Nicolaidis: And now with what we're doing, for example, you know, using the Wi Fi in your house that exists to make sure we bring a tremendous amount of [00:02:00] value from that to the homeowner. That's really what we're focused on. Our purpose. At our origin, Eric, is to, is to, you know, touch millions of lives in the world, make their lives more secure, happier, and safer.

[00:02:12] Tony Nicolaidis: So that's really what we're all about in, in at our origin.

[00:02:15] Eric Goranson: And that is great. Let's talk about Wi Fi sensing, because this is a great new technology that you guys are really harnessing. And I think it's something that most people have no idea what I'm asking about. Yeah. So in your house today, in all of our homes and

[00:02:29] Tony Nicolaidis: all of our businesses, we've got Wi Fi.

[00:02:30] Tony Nicolaidis: It is ubiquitous. It is part of our lives now, and it's a necessary part of our lives. What Origin does, and Origin has been around for a while now, but has a huge number of patents, is when people are in a place that has Wi Fi, as they move and do things, it disturbs The Wi Fi waves that are happening in that area, our technology and our AI understands what the disturbances mean.

[00:02:59] Tony Nicolaidis: [00:03:00] For example, if you're just moving in a room, we'll know you're moving. If you're sitting still and breathing, we'll know you're breathing. If you fall in, we know you've fallen. There are characteristics of the disturbance in the Wi Fi that we Understand, know, and contextualize for the

[00:03:16] Eric Goranson: homeowner. Man, so that can be from something to sensing a light turning on in a room as you're heading over that direction to making sure, you know, grandma's safe in her home when she's the only one there.

[00:03:28] Eric Goranson: You got it. You spot

[00:03:29] Tony Nicolaidis: on. I mean, two use cases that we're doing today. You got it. That is

[00:03:34] Eric Goranson: great. And, you know, it's funny. It's, you know, electricity, when we use it, it gives off different sounds. And. It's kind of the same thing with this. And so you could really use this even for home security. You

[00:03:45] Tony Nicolaidis: could, and Eric, that's really a

[00:03:47] Eric Goranson: key

[00:03:48] Tony Nicolaidis: vertical of ours.

[00:03:49] Tony Nicolaidis: We have basically three verticals, security, home security, network service providers, and increasing their value and what we call smart spaces. Security is one of the biggest things that we do. [00:04:00] And basically what, imagine our technology, we'll know if somebody's there, we'll know if somebody's not there, we'll know if somebody's there working along with your network provider that we know is not friendly.

[00:04:12] Tony Nicolaidis: And we can do this just by, for example, the router in your home and all the connected devices you have in your home already, no need to buy extra plastic. No need to buy anything extra. So we can do that in a very lightweight manner and give the homeowner security and peace of

[00:04:26] Eric Goranson: mind. Man, that is so different than your traditional security systems that have, you know, uh, motion sensors in this area versus, you

[00:04:35] Tony Nicolaidis: know, we see

[00:04:36] Eric Goranson: in the movies where you got the laser lights around the art installation, right?

[00:04:40] Eric Goranson: You know, it's funny, right? And this is, everybody's climbing through it doing, and I don't want to get stepped on anybody's movies, but you know, we've seen that a million times in the theaters, but it's funny.

[00:04:51] Tony Nicolaidis: This is actually going to be a. You

[00:04:53] Eric Goranson: know, a 360 degree thing in every level of the house. You got it.

[00:04:57] Eric Goranson: And

[00:04:58] Tony Nicolaidis: look, even when you look at those large [00:05:00] security companies, there's still, there's going to be a place in the market for them. You're going to have people that are going to want a security company to come in and put up all the sensors and so forth. So believe me, there's a place for everyone. There's also a place for what we call very lightweight security model that allows us.

[00:05:16] Tony Nicolaidis: To give the homeowner a way into home intrusion and be able to see what's going on in their home without having to do

[00:05:23] Eric Goranson: that. But there's going to be a place for everybody in this market. Yeah. No kidding. You know, it's, if somebody has got that 25 million, you know, 25 million piece of art, there's a place for that.

[00:05:32] Eric Goranson: You better believe it. There's the market's a huge

[00:05:34] Tony Nicolaidis: market and we're looking to make it easier for the homeowners that maybe don't want all

[00:05:39] Eric Goranson: of that. That is cool. So, you know, this is an emergent, emerging technology. Where are we at today? And where do you see us in maybe four or five years? We

[00:05:48] Tony Nicolaidis: already have, uh, we've already launched, uh, with a massive partner of ours in the Northeast.

[00:05:54] Tony Nicolaidis: We are now in all of their Fios routers, and we are now in those homes with a great product called Home [00:06:00] Awareness. If you're a Verizon customer, you can sign up for that. And we are going to be launching here in Europe with Deutsche Telekom doing the same thing. Cross the pond. And then those are the big network providers we're going to be launching with.

[00:06:13] Tony Nicolaidis: And then we're going to be launching with other companies in the security space here. Keep your eyes out here over the next six months between the U S and Europe. So we're going to be really hitting those verticals. Like I told you, and over the next, by the time we get in the summer of 2024, we're going to be launched on both sides of the pond in all of these critical verticals.

[00:06:30] Tony Nicolaidis: And that's where we are just in the next six months. In the next two years, we plan on being in hundreds of millions of devices across the world as it becomes much easier and regulatory things that are happening with Wi Fi, with 802. 11bf, with PRPL and other standards. Working with the chip manufacturers where our technology is going to be embedded everywhere.

[00:06:51] Tony Nicolaidis: And there's no more that you got to call and sign up for it. It's there. You turn it on and it works automatically. So it's going to be a thing where over the next two years, we're going to be around [00:07:00] you. You don't even know us. And if you want to service what we just spoke about,

[00:07:03] Eric Goranson: you can

[00:07:03] Tony Nicolaidis: turn it right on and you're there.

[00:07:05] Tony Nicolaidis: Now it's a little more working with customer by customer. By the time we get two years from now, we're going to be as ubiquitous as Wi Fi.

[00:07:13] Eric Goranson: Nice, you know, there's a lot of concerns out there with people that don't really understand this space about, you know, their own personal security, whether it comes to, you know, we're hearing a lot of the news about AI, and there's all these different things going on.

[00:07:26] Eric Goranson: You know, how do you resolve people's concerns with that kind of stuff? Because anytime there's new tech out there, that's the 1st red flight that comes up. People go. Whoa, what does that do for my privacy?

[00:07:36] Tony Nicolaidis: So we don't identify people. Uh, all we know is there's a person there or there's a person not, or there's a person moving or person not, you know, when it comes to, so we don't really do identification of anybody.

[00:07:47] Tony Nicolaidis: We don't do that. Our customers own all the data, the horizons of the world. We don't really touch the data. And then on top of that, like I said earlier, with the intrusion detection, when I said we recognize somebody walking in, what I meant by that is their [00:08:00] devices, right, that like the router at home will recognize.

[00:08:03] Tony Nicolaidis: Their phone, for example, but we don't know anything other than that. So it really is not an intrusive thing. The only place that we kind of follow what people do from a trend standpoint is in the elderly care portion, because they're caretakers like me. My parents are aging in place. I do want to know. If they're spending a lot more time in bed versus in the kitchen this month versus last month, or change in their habits.

[00:08:29] Tony Nicolaidis: And that's because me as a caretaker is their son. I want to know that's the only place that we get a little bit more, more detailed in how we track, but for the caretaker, it's what they want, right? Like me, for example, but we're not identifying people. We're not saying, Oh, this person's doing that. And that person's doing the other.

[00:08:46] Tony Nicolaidis: None of that is very kind of high level data that we're talking about here, but very, very effective

[00:08:51] Eric Goranson: contextual data. You know, that makes a lot of sense because when I look at this taking care of my mother, for instance, she's in her mid 80s [00:09:00] and she's 3. 5 hours away. And that is all very valuable data to make sure that she's well cared for.

[00:09:06] Eric Goranson: You got

[00:09:06] Tony Nicolaidis: and you would have that. Nobody else, right? So correct. That's the only place that it gets detailed. Other than that. It stays at a very high level. We're not going to be in a position. You can't wifi sensing. We'll not be able to identify me versus you. It's just the physics, you know, it's impossible.

[00:09:22] Eric Goranson: Absolutely. That is great stuff. And this doesn't require a lot of other hardware within the home. All right, guys, as we go out to commercial break, don't forget, you can always find out more about us over at around the house. Online. com. And hey, write this number down. 833 239 4144. That way you could give a call into the show.

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[00:10:48] Tony Nicolaidis: No. For example, the intrusion detection, I'd like, for example, Verizon.

[00:10:52] Eric Goranson: We are embedded on the

[00:10:53] Tony Nicolaidis: Verizon Fios router. It automatically connects to all your connected devices in your house. For example, in my house, I don't know how many [00:11:00] connected devices you have. I have 14 connected devices in my house between smart TVs, couple of Lexus, a couple of smart speakers, whatever they're in my house, the average in the U S a 17 average, and we know that's only going to grow.

[00:11:14] Tony Nicolaidis: So

[00:11:15] Eric Goranson: you already built, I'm in the mid fifties

[00:11:17] Tony Nicolaidis: already have that. Embedding our tech into a router, for example, or a gateway in your house, it'll automatically connect to those devices and you don't have to do anything. All it has to be is one more wifi and boom, you create this coverage around your house.

[00:11:30] Tony Nicolaidis: So very

[00:11:31] Eric Goranson: lightweight. You know, that is great stuff. And I, I can only think about where we go with this in the future because. You know, right now you've got all these apps on your phone, for instance, for a lot of people to turn on the dining room light or the porch lights or things like that. And now, all of a sudden, you're just, it's just going to be intuitive because it knows, hey, this person's heading to another room.

[00:11:55] Eric Goranson: It's heading that direction. Right? Wow, we could turn the lights on there or wow, they're never in [00:12:00] this room. Maybe we don't have to heat and cool this room as much. I can

[00:12:02] Tony Nicolaidis: see where this is going. I mean, obviously you've done your homework and I first very much say I appreciate that because I can tell you read about us.

[00:12:09] Tony Nicolaidis: And I can tell you understand what we do because these, everything you've mentioned today are use cases we're working on turning the lights on automatically when you walk into the room and then you can set the time on your watch or when you're on your phone when you want to turn the lights off a minute after there's no occupancy, uh, managing energy, which we know is a massive issue with, with everything that's going on globally.

[00:12:29] Tony Nicolaidis: So these are all things that we are doing in all use cases. We're going to be tackling over the next year.

[00:12:34] Eric Goranson: And that is great. And I think that's the biggest challenge with people right now is that so many people out there, you know, especially even in my audience, they like to get kind of started with the smart home stuff.

[00:12:45] Eric Goranson: But a lot of this more complex stuff is not intuitive to them and it's work. And they don't want to have six apps on their phone to run everything. The more things happen automatically. I think the more people adopt this technology, you

[00:12:58] Tony Nicolaidis: got it. And by the way, [00:13:00] This won't be another app you have to do because let's say if you're a Verizon customer, you go to your Verizon app.

[00:13:05] Tony Nicolaidis: It's all right there. And it makes this whole fragmented smart home kind of, uh, a fragmentation that's happened that you mentioned earlier. Now it starts to lessen that and, uh, the smart home really becomes a reality. In the best way possible for the home.

[00:13:20] Eric Goranson: Yeah, that's great. And you think about doing like HVAC stuff out there now that we're seeing all these zone systems and you're seeing many split heat pumps where you've got 4 or 5 different units in a house that could really give you some energy savings by just noticing who's in what room and who's not.

[00:13:37] Eric Goranson: I mean, think about

[00:13:38] Tony Nicolaidis: it, you know, every time you knock down one degree, whether you keep it one degree warmer during the summer or one degree cooler during the winter because somebody is not there, you can reduce your heat or air condition by 3%. Think about that. So it's money right in your pocket and you're not running the electricity, you're helping all the stuff going on globally.

[00:13:58] Tony Nicolaidis: So you're spot on that we can make an [00:14:00] impact. Yeah,

[00:14:00] Eric Goranson: and that's a big deal right now, especially when you look at power companies right now that are really trying to stop that usage

[00:14:07] Tony Nicolaidis: around the house because, you know,

[00:14:10] Eric Goranson: if they can bring down our usage and be more efficient than that makes it so they don't have to build another power plant to charge the next electric car.

[00:14:18] Eric Goranson: So, you know, there's such a focus on that, right?

[00:14:20] Tony Nicolaidis: You got it. That's why I think we, our purpose really is to make millions of people's lives easier, more secure and safe for sure.

[00:14:27] Eric Goranson: That's why. Yeah. And with our baby mooters getting older, I can really see where this is. This is going to be smart for people out there.

[00:14:34] Eric Goranson: I like it. You got it. Where do people find out more information about

[00:14:37] Tony Nicolaidis: this? Go to our website, origin, origin AI. Uh, and, uh, you can look up our website and you can put wifi sensing in. We come up automatically. And you want a demo hit, uh, put your name in there. One of our team members will be back to you very shortly.

[00:14:54] Tony Nicolaidis: Uh, and if anybody wants to reach out to me, they can just reach out to me directly, you know, through tony. nicolaitis at originwirelessai. [00:15:00]

[00:15:00] Eric Goranson: com. Perfect, Tony. Thanks for coming on around the house today.

[00:15:03] Tony Nicolaidis: Eric, thank you very much. I appreciate it. You guys have a great day.

[00:15:06] Eric Goranson: You too. Thank you, sir. Now that is some cool tech.

[00:15:10] Eric Goranson: Now, if you want to open up your house to make it look amazing, where you can open up the back of your house into the deck and look like, well, the inside is the outside and vice versa. Let's talk with Panoramic Doors. I'd like to welcome Chad from Panoramic Doors. Welcome to Around the House. Eric, thank

[00:15:27] Chad Paris: you so much for having us.

[00:15:28] Chad Paris: We are excited to be here on the show with you today. Talk about panoramic

[00:15:32] Eric Goranson: doors. Thanks for coming on, man. This is really great for the people out there that don't understand what is a panoramic door? Great

[00:15:41] Chad Paris: question. Uh, you know, we really pride ourselves in basically creating a door system. That is a full glass wall that can be individually moved and bringing the inside outside or the outside inside, you know, with everybody now wanting to spend more time at [00:16:00] home and enjoy the great views.

[00:16:02] Chad Paris: Uh, panoramic doors really is distinctive in the market. There's nothing else like it and it just, it allows the customers to, to enjoy their space way more than they ever

[00:16:13] Tony Nicolaidis: have before.

[00:16:14] Eric Goranson: Well, it's not like this is a 5 foot sliding glass door, right? This is something where you can take wall to wall in a room and make a beautiful opening, basically, that turns into glass and weather when, well, you don't want to bring that inside.

[00:16:29] Chad Paris: Absolutely. So, you know, we can go up to 10 foot in our aluminum and it's really as long as you want it to be. So, you know, we've got some systems out there that are 20, 25, 30 foot long, and it is, it's full glass. So. You're getting to see those beautiful elements. We have, uh, two doors specifically that we designed for, uh, especially harsh areas like Durian with our Chamberlain and our Chamberlain XL that really have, um, great results, great test results [00:17:00] that doesn't allow that even when it's snowing or when the weather's cold.

[00:17:03] Chad Paris: It doesn't, you don't, you can see it, but you don't feel that cold and you don't have to worry about, uh, you know, wrapping up in that blanket and seeing that, uh, that snow come down while you're still warm.

[00:17:13] Eric Goranson: You got it. And, you know, you guys put a lot of engineering into these things because it's not just a door on rollers.

[00:17:20] Eric Goranson: It's a much more specific application when the whole thing has to move.

[00:17:25] Chad Paris: Absolutely. One of the biggest things that we designed is a lot of people are in remodel phase. And they want to put a system like this and maybe a current home and current area that they say, man, I really wish this was open up. So I have more sidelines to the city or sidelines to my pool or backyard or whatever it may be.

[00:17:44] Chad Paris: And so our, our systems are all a lot of weight track loaded. So they're not in this upper where you got to put a big, huge header in like a beam in, which costs a lot of money. Um, the system runs off of a bottom weighted track and you can [00:18:00] individually open and slide each panel so that, you know, if you want them all open, you can, or if you want 1 or 2 open or, uh, fold the doors open, you can do that.

[00:18:09] Chad Paris: Uh, just, just a really neat, clean system that, that the engineering is, is amazing. And at the same time, you're getting that, uh, nice protection from the elements, not having to worry about, uh. You

[00:18:23] Eric Goranson: know, Chad, that is a great point because when you do that top mount system, I've seen people bringing in a projects I've worked on where they got the crane and the I beam and just the structural changes.

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[00:19:29] Eric Goranson: That way other people can find us. Now let's get back and wrap up that conversation with panoramic doors. You know, Chad, that is a great point because when you do that top mount system, I've seen people bringing in a projects I've worked on where they got the crane and the I beam and just the structural changes.

[00:19:47] Eric Goranson: Can be 10s and 10s of thousands of dollars before you even have to buy a door.

[00:19:52] Chad Paris: Absolutely. And I think that's when we were looking at designing this system. Was the main focus was, is how do we, how do we [00:20:00] put this, this. Product in people's hand without just killing the budget with the renovations that needed in order to put in a top weighted system.

[00:20:10] Chad Paris: And this is this is why we did this because. You literally can take a home that, that you want to remodel and, um, and be able to open up some areas if you maybe have a window there or you have a, uh, you know, glass doors that are there. Maybe they're a little bit smaller and you want to make a little bit bigger.

[00:20:27] Chad Paris: You can do that. And you don't have to worry about the excessive, uh, instruction work that you would have to, to put an ID in. Uh, you're absolutely correct. It can be tens of thousands of dollars

[00:20:38] Eric Goranson: to do that. It's incredible how those costs go up. And the one thing I do like too, is style wise, you guys have lots of different styles and even different materials I see that you build the doors out of.

[00:20:48] Chad Paris: Yeah, so, you know, 1 of the big, big things are our number 1 seller or number 1, you know, people love is obviously the black, you know, the black on black and we use a special paint that's a high resistant [00:21:00] to, uh, harsh areas where you may get a lot of, uh, seawater or, uh, weather where you're getting a lot of harsh rains or whatever.

[00:21:10] Chad Paris: So we use a really high protective paint on our doors. But you can do black on black. You can do black on the outside, white on the inside. A lot of people like what's behind me, where they put that natural species of wood. So we laminate a wood on top of our black so that you can have the, the nice element and stain it, whatever color you want.

[00:21:28] Chad Paris: Uh, oak, alder, cherry, uh, just to name a few of what we offer that you can have the real wood on there. And, uh, and it makes a nice element, especially, you know, in certain homes where they have a lot of wood windows already, and they want to kind of match that. That's now you can do that. We also had it. We put grids on it.

[00:21:46] Chad Paris: If you want to have grids. Uh, we have a keyless entry, so you can have if you want to have a keyless entry, we do a thumbprint go in and out the door, different types of glass that we offer for different areas. We get a lot of direct sunlight. We wanted [00:22:00] to. A lower E, more of a tenant type glass. We can do those.

[00:22:04] Chad Paris: So we, we offer a lot of every door is, is 100 percent custom made to work. Uh, so whatever that customer wants, we custom make every door in our plant here in Fort Worth, Texas.

[00:22:16] Eric Goranson: And that is beautiful. And then the next question is, how do these things work? How do you open one of these things up? Is it complicated?

[00:22:23] Chad Paris: Fantastic question. I actually have one of our interns that's working with us now. That's actually here and I was asked her if she would just kind of show you a little bit about how the doors work and how. Easy it is to operate. Uh, so Ava is our intern. And as you can see, it's simple as you have a main door that you would turn and open and then each individual slide.

[00:22:45] Chad Paris: So there's no hand is showing in this door at all, but you can literally open it each panel just like she did. So you can open up the view. You can slide them. You don't have to open them if you want to. But if you do want to open them up, and as you can see [00:23:00] now, we have a full opening behind us where if it's a dining room area or a outdoor kitchen or whatever, you can enjoy that.

[00:23:08] Chad Paris: So I'm now sitting what would be in our showroom in Fort Worth. Inside the house. And I have the access to the outside right here with me.

[00:23:17] Eric Goranson: And that is clean and it just gets right out of the way. And then you're open to the outside and beautiful mother nature.

[00:23:23] Chad Paris: Absolutely. And we do offer, we do sell a screen that goes with it.

[00:23:27] Chad Paris: You know, we have a lot of areas that. Um, you know, they have mosquitoes or bugs or a lot of leaves falling off that blow. So we do have a screen option that we can sell with our door. So you have this nice screen, it slides there and you keep it open and have the screen there and still feel the wind and the mother nature out there.

[00:23:44] Chad Paris: But, but even the. The critters out, so to speak.

[00:23:49] Eric Goranson: You got it. So, Chad, the next question I've got for you is where do people track these down? Where do they see them? Great question.

[00:23:55] Chad Paris: So, you can go to our website and www. panoramicdoors. [00:24:00] com. Uh, you can follow us on Instagram or Facebook. Uh, tick tock, they're all linked there that you can fill out a form and then we have reps and all the areas across the country that someone can get back to you and get you a quote.

[00:24:14] Chad Paris: Really quickly, uh, uh, we pride ourselves in at least 24 to 48 hours getting back to you. And get you a quote and then give you some options that you can look at and try to work within your budget. And so they come up with a solution that works good for you and

[00:24:27] Eric Goranson: your home. Chad Paris, Panoramic Doors.

[00:24:30] Eric Goranson: Thanks for coming on today. Can't wait to see what you guys have next. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a joy. You too. Thanks. You know, that is a great way to really change the look of your house without having to do a ton of engineering in most cases. Now it's time. We're going to talk some bathroom trends.

[00:24:47] Eric Goranson: What is hot for your bathroom in 2024? And we're going to talk with Kim for shit right here. Let's get back to that interview. Now that we're in 2024, there are a lot of new trends out there and [00:25:00] there's a lot to relate to your bathroom. I've got my friend Kim from a marriage. Welcome to around the house.

[00:25:07] Kim Frachette: Hello, Eric. How

[00:25:08] Eric Goranson: are you? Great to see you again. Thanks for coming on today.

[00:25:12] Kim Frachette: Happy to be here. It's a great year for plumbing and especially bathroom plumbing.

[00:25:17] Eric Goranson: It is. And you know, it's funny because I've been talking a lot about trends. It's that time of year where people are talking about what's new for 2024.

[00:25:24] Eric Goranson: And I'll be the first to say the bathtub is back after people for years have been taking them out and putting in showers. Those same people are trying to call me up and saying, I want to put a bathtub back in again.

[00:25:36] Kim Frachette: Yeah. Oh yeah. Baths. So no matter who you are at some point in your life, you're going to have a sore back or a sore knee or a child to bathe or a dog to bathe.

[00:25:46] Kim Frachette: So that bathtub will always come in handy. It will be useful. And of course, now they're more therapeutic than ever.

[00:25:53] Eric Goranson: And they're more beautiful as ever to, I mean, the styles and stuff that are out there now, you know, with what you guys are doing and [00:26:00] others, it is really not your traditional 1960s bathtub in the corner.

[00:26:04] Eric Goranson: No, there's some gorgeous

[00:26:06] Kim Frachette: stuff. Yes, we're still doing corner baths, but there are sizes, shapes, depths for just about anyone. There are baths that are easy to get in and out of, and they don't have to be a walk in bath. It doesn't have to have a door. There are therapies for everyone, every type of therapy you can imagine, and we're sure that at some point you'll be able to find something, whether it's a whirlpool, an air bath, some kind of vibrosonic massage, you know, anything that you can add to the tub to make that space yours, and you'll use it.

[00:26:42] Kim Frachette: Like your family needs and then you can add so many other things to the bathing experience. Now. It's great.

[00:26:49] Eric Goranson: It is, and, you know, health and wellness is continuing to grow and, you know, over the last few years, of course, people were stuck home. So they started. Really focusing on taking care of [00:27:00] themselves and enjoying what they have and that trend just

[00:27:02] Kim Frachette: continues.

[00:27:03] Kim Frachette: Oh, yeah, it's where we learned during COVID that we could take time for ourselves and we should. And now that we all know that health is really so key and crucial to everything we do, hydrotherapy is an amazing way to maintain your overall health. We're all concentrating at the beginning of the year.

[00:27:23] Kim Frachette: It's, you know, we all have our new year's resolutions going on and a lot of it has to do with health and exercise. So bathing can be part of it. It doesn't have to be, you know, something that wastes your time. If you have 10 minutes, you 15 minutes, 20 minutes, just to add that hydrotherapy to the overall health.

[00:27:42] Kim Frachette: The thing that you have going on, the circulation is amazing. The essential oils that you might be able to add to it, anything that makes it your space and your time and not, it's not a drudge to fill up a tub and it doesn't have to be a giant spa. It can be,

[00:27:59] Eric Goranson: and [00:28:00] it's, and it's a whole different thing now.

[00:28:02] Eric Goranson: I mean, we look at this now and go, you know, tubs are not what your grandparents or that hotel had in it that, uh, would the neighbors would complain and they're. Two houses away about how loud that motor is. Exactly. Things are a lot better these days.

[00:28:16] Kim Frachette: Exactly. It's changed. The motors have gotten better.

[00:28:19] Kim Frachette: The way the piping goes together has gotten better.

[00:28:22] Eric Goranson: Alright, we'll continue this conversation with Kim just as soon as around the house returns. Don't change that time.[00:29:00]

[00:29:01] Intro: It's the end of the show now. Trick down people. It's time to go. It's that time again. It's last call.

[00:29:09] Eric Goranson: Welcome back to the around the house show. This is where we help you get the most out of your home through information education. We'll get back to talking with Kim for shed here in just a second, but I wanted to say this next week, there won't be a midweek special because I'm going to be out on the podcast for all you podcast listeners.

[00:29:26] Eric Goranson: I'm going to be out at design and construction week. So I will not be in the studio. I'm going to be on the road talking about the latest and greatest cool stuff that you see out there. So make sure and tune in in the next few episodes, because we're going to be talking to a lot of people. So there won't be a midweek special, but you'll be able to catch that.

[00:29:43] Eric Goranson: Unless I get a spare moment. I don't think it's going to be able to go up because, uh, well, it's going to be a busy time in Las Vegas now. Let's get back to talking with Kim and it's a whole different thing. Now. I mean, we look at this now and go, you know, tubs are not what your grandparents or that [00:30:00] hotel had in it.

[00:30:01] Eric Goranson: That, uh, would the neighbors would complain in there. Two houses away about how loud that motor is, things are a lot better these days.

[00:30:08] Kim Frachette: Exactly. It's changed. The motors have gotten better. The way the piping goes together has gotten better. They're more efficient, energy efficient. They're quieter. Even the ways that the contractors can install them to make it access easier to make it run smoother.

[00:30:25] Kim Frachette: And it's just, I mean, overall, it's a lot more fun to take a bath today. And a shower for that matter.

[00:30:33] Eric Goranson: No question. No question. What are the differences? I want to ask you because I know there's people going, what are these different types of jets and air? And what are the differences between those without getting too far into the weeds?

[00:30:45] Kim Frachette: Okay. Basically, we all know what a whirlpool does and that a whirlpool is really designed the way the jets are designed are more. For a larger bath, we would suggest that you put that in a larger enclosure because your body [00:31:00] is going to be closer to the jets if it's a small tub. So you want to make sure you have the maximum capacity of the jet massaging you.

[00:31:07] Kim Frachette: So not real, real tight tub. Whereas an air bath is designed specifically for a bath that is smaller. So you can have jets that are closer to your body with in a smaller enclosure because air is going to do What it's designed to do, and it will travel quickly toward the surface of the water, so you want to have a bath that's a little closer to your body and it gives a more generalized massage.

[00:31:30] Kim Frachette: So it's not there. Some people call them bubble tubs. They aren't just bubbles. They do have a nice, vigorous massage, and the thing about air is that you can control it, so it can be really gentle, or it can be very hard, whereas a whirlpool is more difficult to control, but it's more point specific. So, you have those.

[00:31:49] Kim Frachette: There's also systems that offer a very light, Air injection into the water and what that's designed to do is condition your skin oxygenate your skin. [00:32:00] So, if you had, you know, any kind of a skin condition, let's say, or you just wanted to have a really have really soft skin, that kind of a system would work really well.

[00:32:10] Kim Frachette: Some people put both systems on a bath because they have their husband likes the harder whirlpool. But the wife likes a more gentle massage or you have small kids, they run differently as well because Whirlpool obviously is circulating water. So you have to have a certain level of water. Whereas air doesn't need a minimum amount.

[00:32:30] Kim Frachette: So you could fill it up just above the jets and put a little kid in. It's a great way to relax them before they go to bed.

[00:32:35] Eric Goranson: There you go. And it's so much more convenient than, you know, people go out and buy the hot tub to go out back or wherever. And You know, this you can use 365 days, whether it's a, you know, 105 or five outside, you don't have to go bear with that.

[00:32:50] Eric Goranson: You can just go walk right into the bathroom and enjoy your space.

[00:32:53] Kim Frachette: Exactly. And you can do it in any kind of therapy settings. You wanted to turn the lights down, or you wanted to add essential [00:33:00] oils or. Whatever it is that you need to make that time. Therapeutic, you can do it, of course, in your bathroom.

[00:33:07] Kim Frachette: Now, to your point about the, whatever the, the temperature is, you know, there's a cold plunge that's now just sort of trendy. If you can fit an extra bath with a chiller on it, that's between 12 and 15, 000, great. But if you want to do that kind of cold therapy, you can use your bath, just run cold water in it or, and, or adds ice to it, depending on how cold you want.

[00:33:30] Kim Frachette: But you're still only going to be able to sit in for 10 or 15 minutes, but it's still great for your circulation. Maybe a cold plunge and a hot shower afterwards, or vice versa. That might be a really neat thing to do in the bathroom, too. That

[00:33:43] Eric Goranson: is a heck of an idea, and yeah, 12 or 15 grand for something that's a little trendy is a pretty big spend for most people, but I like your DIY option there.

[00:33:52] Eric Goranson: That makes a lot of sense.

[00:33:53] Kim Frachette: Sure, and it's a, we can all do it.

[00:33:56] Eric Goranson: Yeah. You know, health and wellness is so big with that, and it goes [00:34:00] around the entire bathroom as well, you know, outside of the tubs and stuff, you know, we're seeing the, the heated towel racks, the bidet seats. I mean, we're seeing all the different things that are coming into that entire space.

[00:34:11] Eric Goranson: It seems

[00:34:12] Kim Frachette: there's been a lot of innovation in plumbing over the last probably 25 plus years. But because the bathroom is sort of secondary to the kitchen, and we all love our kitchens, we spend a lot of time there. I don't think that everyone was really paying attention to the innovations going on in plumbing, but there's been some great innovations.

[00:34:31] Kim Frachette: We talked earlier about how the whirlpools are constructed differently, so are steam units. They can be installed more efficiently and easily now, and are an amazing tool in the bathroom that you, that everyone in the family can use. There are different ways to have, uh, faucets with hand sprays that weren't being used before in the bathroom.

[00:34:52] Kim Frachette: To your point, there's a, there are great towel warmers. Bidet seats are, we, uh, briefly spoke earlier, you [00:35:00] and I, about bidets in general. They're used elsewhere on the planet, and some people don't get it, but they're, can be used for all kinds of things. Next to the toilet, you know,

[00:35:09] Intro: absolutely.

[00:35:10] Eric Goranson: You know, you're talking about plumbing is evolved.

[00:35:13] Eric Goranson: Yeah. I mean, it's been popular in Europe and over in Asia for, for many decades and they were very rare here, but now I can walk in Costco and see what on the shelf.

[00:35:25] Kim Frachette: Absolutely. My son and his girlfriend were traveling in Asia just recently, and there was a B day everywhere they went. And, uh, of course they didn't use it always just for, let's call it bathroom needs.

[00:35:37] Kim Frachette: They washed feet and clothes and, you know, just like everyone else in the other countries. And it was a revelation to them. I think it's, it's something that we can adapt as well. That

[00:35:46] Eric Goranson: is great. We're going to ask you where to find where people find more information about what you guys are doing, because you guys have some luxury tubs.

[00:35:54] Eric Goranson: As well as some shower bases as well. You're going to kind of have that whole bathroom part cornered.

[00:35:59] Kim Frachette: [00:36:00] You know, the, I encourage everyone. Yes, the big box stores is a great place to go to look at plumbing, but if you can go to your local dealer in plumbing, normally a lot of times a wholesaler in the plumbing world will have a showroom.

[00:36:15] Kim Frachette: Talk to a pro, ask them what's new, go in and see, you know, all of the really cool things that don't often make it to the shelves in your big box stores. And these guys can also help you with how it would go in, what you would need to make sure you have all the parts and pieces. Average will we have tubs on display in many different showrooms.

[00:36:35] Kim Frachette: We also do shower bases. So, obviously, tubs are coming back. I think they always were there, but, you know, they're, they're now taking a more important place again. But shower base is really cool. Barrier free showers are a thing now, and they don't have to look like institutional products. Ask around, especially in your more specialized showrooms and talk to [00:37:00] the pros there.

[00:37:00] Kim Frachette: They have all kinds of stuff they can recommend and they can show you some really great baths and showers at the same time.

[00:37:06] Eric Goranson: I could not agree more Kim. Thanks for taking the time today. I appreciate it. It is my

[00:37:11] Kim Frachette: pleasure.

[00:37:13] Eric Goranson: Thanks Kim. Well, man, I tell you what, guys, there is going to be a great time for me this next week.

[00:37:18] Eric Goranson: As I go off to design and construction week, because right there, we're talking about bathroom trends, but I'm going to see millions of square feet. Of all the latest stuff. So, uh, make sure and follow social media. Going to be having a great time out there with my friends. And we're talking to a lot of different people out there and I'm going to be bringing some new products as well.

[00:37:36] Eric Goranson: So, uh, we've got some great interviews that we're going to be doing live from the show in there. It's not going to be broadcast until we get back. So we can edit it up and get it looking all good for you guys, but, uh, it's going to be a lot of fun. So if you want to see what's going on down there, just follow me on social media.

[00:37:51] Eric Goranson: So just look. Look up around the house show. You can find out all those different, uh, social medias. I'll be on Facebook, Instagram, all those kinds of things. Might even [00:38:00] post up some YouTube videos, but we're going to have a lot going on down there. So I'd love to see it. If you can watch for those live videos, when I see somebody fun.

[00:38:08] Eric Goranson: I'm going to have a blast with it. So maybe we can do some stuff down there and enjoy ourselves. So start looking at that on Tuesday. Cause the show will be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, we'll be posting a bunch of stuff up down there and you'll be able to see what's going on. This is where all the new trends start.

[00:38:22] Eric Goranson: And like we were talking about a few weeks ago, right now. Next week is when everybody releases all their new products. So in the coming month or two, the latest models, whether it be the latest colors, the latest trends, all that comes out, which is a lot of fun. So we'll be reporting from there and bring you some great content moving forward as well as next week show.

[00:38:44] Eric Goranson: I got a special guest. So, uh, looking forward to that. So we've got, uh, A lot of stuff happening guys. So it's going to be a lot of fun. So if you want to find out more about us, if you want to follow this stuff, head over to around the house, online. com. And, uh, you can also, if you have home improvement questions, give [00:39:00] me a call at 8 3 3 2 3 9 41 44.

[00:39:03] Eric Goranson: All right, everybody. Have a great rest of your weekend. Thanks for tuning in to Around the House