Janice Porter: Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's
edition of relationships rule. My guest this week is Amy Shaw
drauf. Welcome to the show, Amy.
Amy Chodoff: Thank you, Janice for having me.
Janice Porter: My pleasure. Amy is one of from what I
understand, because I don't live there, but one of the most
recognizable on air personalities and has the most
recognizable laugh in the Dallas Fort Worth area, one of
Amy Chodoff: them at least
Janice Porter: been an award winning radio host in North
Texas for 20 years. Wow. That's amazing. First, you were in
news, correct.
Amy Chodoff: I was in news for a very long time. And then I made
the switch to being a show host to be a morning show host.
Janice Porter: So you're the morning show host with your
partner, Dave, Dave, and Amy on 570, K, Li F
Amy Chodoff: crime 70k. Ally up and down
Janice Porter: in Dallas, okay. And I'm going to stop there for
a minute because I was thinking when I was going to be talking
to you, I'm going to interview a radio talk show host who does
nothing but ask questions of people that Oh, my goodness, how
am I going to do this? Because it's, it's like, I started to
have this vision of you on the radio show that you have a I
don't know what they call it in your business. But I know
there's like I picture a, a binder that the producer has,
and they're all segmented and into what you're doing any
segment of the show. And that you have, you have to keep a
strict timeframe on what you do. But you have some leeway as to
how you do it. Am I right or wrong?
Amy Chodoff: Well, you're partly right, we do have strict time
restraints, some of our segments are shorter than others, they
can range from the new segment, which is four and a half to five
minutes to a talk segment, that may be three to eight minutes,
depending on where we are in the hour, we don't have a binder
from our producer, we do have, we do have a rundown from our
producer, which kind of has each segment listed out in which
stories we're going to do in each segment. But we really keep
everything in our computer in the program that we use in the
news program that we use. And that's what we follow as we move
through the morning. And that's all stuff that my co host and I
have found the night before, because we do a lot of research
the night before. And then we call it working it up for that
morning. So we can discuss it, we highlight the interesting
parts, we talked about it off the air. So we know maybe how to
start and how to get out of it segment, because that's very
important is how to start it. Because you want to make it
interesting for the listener. And then also you need to know
where you're going to get out of it as well. So you can move on
to the next segment.
Janice Porter: So you know that I'm a LinkedIn trainer and I
talk about when I'm crafting a LinkedIn summary or about
section for a client, I always say you want to start with a
hook, and then write exactly what you're talking about. It is
Amy Chodoff: exactly what we're talking about.
Janice Porter: Although you would have a lot more experience
at it than I do. So I'm just fascinated because, you know,
I've listened to I listened to talk radio, I have open ears.
And now I listen to podcasts a lot of the time. And similar but
not the live feature, obviously. So before I get into your new
world, I just wanted to ask a few questions about are the
radio work world? So is it less stressful or more stressful
dealing with a partner and doing, you know, human interest
in as well as some news than doing all that news that you
did? You are a news anchor, right?
Amy Chodoff: Yes, I like it better because we cover a lot
more topics and my co anchor and I get along really well. He's,
gosh, he's almost 20 years older than I am. And yet we have so
much fun and a lot in common. And we learn a lot from each
other. We don't always agree. Different perspectives, right?
Yeah, a lot of times we do agree, but sometimes we don't.
And other times, we listen to each other's perspective. And
then I may change my mind and say you know what, Dave, you
were right. I was wrong at the beginning. And then I have a you
know, a new, a new way of thinking about something that
we've been talking about. We have a lot of fun. We have a lot
of laughs We do a lot of, you know, horrible stories, because
there's just a lot of horrible news that's going on right now.
We do a lot of tough stories. But we do a lot of talkers. And
that stuff that people would be interested in and finding out
more information about and that's what we really love to do
because we get to sort of get into the the weeds so to speak
of some of those stories.
Janice Porter: Can you give me an example of one of those
Stories. That was
Amy Chodoff: an example of one of those stories I'm trying to
think from this morning. Unfortunately, a lot of times we
do so much stuff that when I get off the air, I don't even
remember what we did. Isn't that weird?
Janice Porter: No. So that was tough to ask me that I
understood as
Amy Chodoff: we do so many things. Let's just like I could
read the weather all day long. And then I asked my husband,
it's gonna rain today.
Janice Porter: Brilliant. So Oh, my next question went out of my
head because Okay, so, Joe, do you have callers call in on your
show? No, we don't know. Okay. So you're on air the whole time.
Okay, so I do know, I read somewhere that your daughter
went into the family business?
Amy Chodoff: Yes, yes. Reporter as well. Right. All right. Yes.
He's a political reporter for the CBS affiliate in Dallas. And
our younger daughter is now a sports anchor reporter in
Tucson, Arizona. This is her second job. So yes, she went in
the family business and our younger daughter wanted nothing
to do with it. And is a sophomore going to be a junior
at the University of Arizona and she's studying education. So she
doesn't want any part of the family business. But we need the
teacher. So it's Oh, yeah. And she is so good with the kids.
It's unbelievable. She's gonna be an awesome teacher.
Janice Porter: That was my first life. I was a teacher. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But I think it's important that we still have
good people going into teaching, but I love that your daughter is
and she she wanted sports, right? She was Oh,
Amy Chodoff: yeah. No, yeah, she wanted sports. She went to
Syracuse to went to Newhouse School, just like my husband and
I did. And just has a passion for everything football. I mean,
all sports, but she loves football, both college and
professional.
Janice Porter: Well, there's big space out there. I just saw Erin
Andrews just had a baby. Oh, yeah, I saw. Yeah. Okay, so you
are embarking or have just embarked on a new side gig, new
career, whatever you want to call it? I know that the radio
show probably takes up a lot of your time. I know. It's early
morning. But you said that you do research it as well, later in
the day? Correct. So yeah, we
Amy Chodoff: do, I do. Usually around four or five o'clock, we
do our research, because that's when most of the stories that
would be pertinent for the next morning have cleared. I mean,
sometimes there's breaking news overnight. But usually by for
Friday, five o'clock, we can kind of figure out what we want
to do for the next morning. So that's the time that I spend
there. But both my kids are out of the house. So I really have
between 10am and four or 5pm, to do whatever I want. So I started
helping business owners and other clients get their stories
out and tell their stories, because I am a storyteller. And
that's what I've done on the radio for 35 years. And I'm
really a quick study at learning someone's business, and be able
to digest that information and then come up with their story,
the business owners story. There are so many stories, there are
customer stories, there are employees stories, and a lot of
people have trouble nailing that down. And that's what that's one
of the things that I'm here to do in addition to writing and
content creation.
Janice Porter: So those things make me think of, okay, you're a
copywriter a copy for someone's having their website done and
grant the copy done. So that's where it fits in. Or maybe
they're, they need their, their, their LinkedIn profile written,
or they need their
Amy Chodoff: bio written find website, or the about us section
for their website, or, you know, I do a lot of ghost writing for
some medical writing companies, where I would actually write the
doctors website, and the intense medical information. So I do
that
Janice Porter: does not sound sexy to me.
Amy Chodoff: I do writing for attorneys. So basically,
anything that has to be written, yeah, I can do.
Janice Porter: So what's your favorite part of that? How did
you see like, because you could love writing and still not
wanting to do it as a business. So how did you see that it was
something that would excite you to do
Amy Chodoff: well, I enjoy it. I enjoy the challenge of crafting
something I enjoy getting something down on I would say on
the page, but I do it. I type on my computer and moving it
around. Yeah, it's like a puzzle to me. And it's fun, and I
especially love the bios, because I get to interview the
people first. That's a big thing for me. I don't just take your
resume or your LinkedIn profile and do it from that I actually
set up an appointment with you and interview you and I'm going
to ask you questions that you probably have never been asked
before because That's just me. And I'm very inquisitive. And I
love asking people things, and I'm gonna draw things out of
people, and then be able to craft their bio, and they just
come out wonderful. And I really, really enjoy that part
of it. I've been having a lot of fun with that.
Janice Porter: Oh, that's good. That's good. Because I love
talking to people and pulling things out of them. And quite
often I hear people say to me, that was really intuitive. I,
how did you even think that, but see, I couldn't put it in
writing, I would just like to talk to them about it. That's
why I'd cast and not writing a book.
Amy Chodoff: I don't know that I have a book in me. You know, I
really don't, especially a biography. I don't think so. But
I like I'm really good at writing and other people's
voices too. Like blogs, I can write in other people's tone of
voice. And that's hard to do.
Janice Porter: It is very hard to do. Very hard to do, I have
to say. So wait, what was I gonna say?
Something you said made me go off. And then I have a voice. So
Amy, you talked about you didn't think you had a book in you. But
I bet with all the stories that you've heard over the years and
the the experiences that you've had being on the radio that was
and you and you have probably a great sense of humor. That's
what I'm sensing already from you that I bet you've got to
Virginia that even though
Amy Chodoff: I have a few stories, my favorite story, can
I tell you my favorite story was when I was working in Orlando,
Florida, and I was the midday anchor for the am station. But I
did Morning News. And I was sort of the co host of the Country
Music Station. Before I went to do my midday news on the am
station. And there was a time we didn't have a permanent host. So
we would bring in all these country music stars. So I met
you name it. I've met them. I've done a show with them. I mean
from Brad Paisley to I don't even I can't even remember the
mall that I've co hosted with. So one of the big co hosts who
came in was Kenny Rogers. Yes. And he has since passed away,
obviously. But this was 20. I want to say it was 20 years ago.
And he came in and he's such a he was such a short man, because
I expected he was going to be much taller than he was. And it
was after he had had his plastic surgery. So of course, he looked
a lot different than he did before that time. And so we
hosted the show with him. And for some reason I asked him to
sing I'll Island in the Sky, you know, in the stream islands,
Islands in the Stream. Thank you that he sang with Dolly Parton.
And he wrote, yeah, and he's like, come sing with me. So I
start singing with him and forget the words. Okay, and I
was so bad.
Janice Porter: That was putting you on the spot,
Amy Chodoff: though. Wow. And then and then he signed, he was
promoting a book that he had at the time. And I still have the
book. And he signed it. And he said, Dear Amy always remember
our song, Kenny Rogers. And he signed it. And it was funny
because I was looking through some stuff a few weeks ago. And
I found it and it just reminded me of that memory. But that was
one of the fun stories of someone really famous that I met
and had a great interaction with.
Janice Porter: So you've been around the country in different
markets, correct? Yeah. So how long have you been in Dallas?
Amy Chodoff: 20 years,
Janice Porter: you've been there 20 years. Because I know here
there was, in fact, he just died actually was there was this disc
jockey who kind of was when I was a kid. And he you know,
we're moved his way all the way up. To set through all the ages,
I think he was the young DJ that introduced the Beatles when they
came to Vancouver. And that goes all the way through. And he was
a legend in his time, basically here. And there's not that many
that have a long career in one place and different stations and
whatever, as the markets have changed, but it's pretty special
to to 20 years in one one mark and I was
Amy Chodoff: Yeah, that's really unusual these days. Yeah, there
are a lot of people on the other am station where I work at who
have been there 30 years 40 years. Time. Yeah, yeah. But
people move around a lot, especially in TV. And my husband
has been in TV here 20 years too. So that's rare.
Janice Porter: Yeah. And well, they're not the kind of jobs
where you get like a month's notice either do you you're like
you're Here today gone tomorrow,
Amy Chodoff: ultimately depends on your contract situation and
things like that.
Janice Porter: So I'm being bit naive around that. So with your
storytelling, gift which, which is evident? What's your who's
your most wanted client? Who do you love to work with? What?
Like, is it an industry? Is it a? Is it male versus female? Is
it young versus old? Is it the lawyers and the doctors? Or is
it the creative people? Or do you, you know, do you have a
favorite?
Amy Chodoff: It's, it's really I love working one on one with
people. And I love that moment that someone says to me, oh, my
gosh, how do you do that? How do you fit pull my story out of me
and figure that out, I'm too close to it. A lot of times,
you're just too close to your own story. So you can't see it.
It's staring you in the face. And you're just too close to it.
And it takes an outsider, someone like me to be able to
come in and talk to you and discuss with you and figure out
what your story should be. And then figure out what your
talking point should be, and how you should organize it all and
how you should put it on your website, how you should put it
on social media. And if you you know, are invited to do a radio
show or a TV show how you should sell yourself in that medium?
Janice Porter: That's a good one. That's a really good one.
Because how is it different? So is it different on radio than
something that's in print, obviously, but it is, it is very
different meetings I talked about earlier, and said I'm
sorry, was it about not burying the lede as
Amy Chodoff: well, it's that too. But in in radio, you may
have a three or four minute interview, and there's no video,
it's all audio. A lot of times when you call in to a radio
show, it's a different experience, because you have to
listen over the phone. And that's, that's hard for some
people to concentrate. versus being in studio, that's a
different experience to also being on television is a
different experience, you know, you need to know where to look
and, and you need to dress correctly. And you may have a
longer time to discuss topics on TV than you do on the radio. And
then in a podcast, something like this is so different than
radio, because it's so much more long form. And you can go into
much more detail than you can on the radio where you have to be
very brief and make your points quickly.
Janice Porter: Mm hmm. So I've actually had a few people on my
podcast who talk about story in different ways. The thing today
seems to be not just so much telling your own stories, but
being able to tell stories as part of your content on social
media. Have you come across that? Do you work with people on
that at all?
Amy Chodoff: Yeah, because you have customer stories, people
that interact with your product, your product, tells a story to
write, in many ways. And so you can develop a story around your
product, you have employees stories, and those are wonderful
stories of you know, why does someone work for you. A lot of
times, there's a backstory, on why someone works for you, or
how long they they've been there. The stories are really
endless that people can use. And once you create those stories,
maybe through the written or word or audio or video, then you
can cut those up and use them endlessly on your social media
and your various platforms.
Janice Porter: Okay, so I'm just starting, I'm actually just
getting that because I finally have a rhythm with my email news
letter that I'm sending out to my list. And I'm trying very
hard to think of a story to put in each week. But it doesn't
come naturally to me. And so what advice would you have. So,
for example, I was so proud of myself because I was able to, to
take a story a couple of weeks ago, of an experience that I had
with my little granddaughter, where we took her down to the
park and she wanted to go to the swings in the slides. But on the
way there was this huge mound of sand in the parking lot while
she couldn't resist that because she loves to climb and play in
dirt and whatever and so beeline for the pile of sand off she was
for another 20 minutes playing there. And I liked and that
finally told that story and then likened it to a business piece
around being in the moment and going with the flow kind of
thing rather than just having to do what you set out to perfect,
but I don't do that often enough and like what what kind of
things do you have to open up in your mind to be able to do those
things? You know what I'm saying?
Amy Chodoff: I think you need to To be open up to the fact that
and I always like to say that life for me is show prep. Okay,
I go about my everyday life. Yeah. And every, every
experience that I have, in the back of my mind, I think to
myself, is this a usable moment for me on the air? And you can
do a similar thing and say, Is this a usable moment for me? And
how can I connect it to something in my business and
turn it into a story? For my newsletter? Yeah, as we pass so
many stories, hundreds of stories every single day, and
you don't even know it, because you're intuitively not aware to
it. And once you start developing awareness to that,
Janice Porter: I should write them down. When they write them
down, keep
Amy Chodoff: a notebook with you write them down, like the
experience that you had with your granddaughter. I mean, that
Janice Porter: is perfect. Yeah, that was probably I was pretty
proud of myself, because I need it. You know, it worked. And in
fact, I've had young man on my show, who saw it, who, that's
what he teaches people. And he and he critiqued me on it. And
it was great, because it was, it was a good example. And now I
just have to do those more often. But I use examples
Amy Chodoff: all the time on our on our radio show of things that
happened to me throughout the day, and so does my co host,
whether it's at the grocery store, or picking up the kids or
whatever has happened over the years. And they turn out to be
the best bits, because a lot of people can relate to them
because they've had similar experiences.
Janice Porter: Yeah. And it's but when they come to you
naturally, when you're on the air, that's, that's brilliant to
like, be able to draw from those things. And I suppose, is it
easier when you're working with a partner, or a harder because I
would imagine that would feed you would feed each other? I
think
Amy Chodoff: it's easier because we feed off of each other. And
my partner and I have been working together for 11 years.
So we can kind of we know each other's cadences. And we know
when one of us can start talking. And the other one needs
to stop talking. And sometimes we talk over each other. But
that's a normal conversation. A lot of times people talk over
each other, right. So it's okay, I used to have we used to have
some people that would critique us and say, well, you're talking
over each other. But that's part of that's part of life and part
of our conversation. So I think that's natural. And I think it
makes us more real. And that's what we're all about is being
authentic.
Janice Porter: I love that word. I'm totally that way. Exactly.
So speaking of being authentic, actually, I wanted to ask this
question, which I don't know if I have, I don't know if you can
answer this question or whether you would answer this question.
It's not even about you. It's about I thought about your
husband, you said is a political reporter. Correct? On a TV
channel, CBS, when you are reporting on a certain station,
whether it's radio or television, do you have to have
the same views as that station?
Amy Chodoff: No, I mean, he went, he's a political reporter.
So to him, when people don't know, where he stands on an
issue, then he's done his job repairing. Okay, so he's middle
of the road, and he talks to both sides on it. Okay. And, you
know, he is very old school that way. And when I was doing news,
I'm old school that way to a little different now where I'm
more of a host, and I can give more of my opinions. But, you
know, it's sometimes they're, they they lean more
conservative, and sometimes they leave more democratic. You know,
it's just like anything else.
Janice Porter: I was just curious, because, you know, we
know with the big, the big cable networks, like, you
Amy Chodoff: know, with Fox and CNN and you know, where MSNBC
are coming from, but I think it's different at the local
level, due to local level isn't really like that.
Janice Porter: Okay. Okay. Very cool. So what would you say? Is
your Can you think of the most exciting experience or life
changing experience you had on radio? Life changing?
Amy Chodoff: Wow.
Janice Porter: For someone you really had always wanted to
meet, and it happened or
Amy Chodoff: see, I'm not a big, like, I don't stars don't.
Janice Porter: I don't know. You're not starstruck.
Amy Chodoff: I'm not starstruck. And I've interviewed so many
people. That's
Janice Porter: why you're not starstruck. I like that.
Amy Chodoff: I'm like Barbara Walters, and Diane Sawyer and
Dan Rather, and I make all those people I've interviewed and then
presidents I've interviewed Jimmy Carter, and
Janice Porter: I'm trying to think so when you're doing those
interviews, you're going to tell me there was no sense of or a
Um,
Amy Chodoff: maybe with maybe with Barbara Walters and Diane
Sawyer. Yes, they were new people. Yeah, exactly a little
bit of that. And maybe I'm a little nervous, you know, but I
always tried to have fun with it and do my research ahead of
time. So I know what I'm talking about.
Janice Porter: Yeah, I remember back in, when my parents lived
in California, and they lived right in the heart of Beverly
Hills, and you couldn't go out on the street without somebody
that you recognize walking by. And I remember back in those
days being very cool about it and not being starstruck because
they're just people. They're just people just like, you know,
and, and to respect that of people. But there were the odd
there was the odd time when I go, Oh, my God, oh, my God,
there's John Travolta like, you know, back in the day when I was
very heart throbbing, or whatever. But you know what, I
get it. So that's wonderful that but to have interviewed some of
those people, though, that's pretty cool. Like, when you're
interviewing one of the best interviewers in the world, what
do you say to them? How do you why do you ask them?
Amy Chodoff: Right? It's a little nerve wracking sometimes,
a lot of times they come on and they're promoting something.
They're promoting a show or they're promoting a book. I've
talked to Katie Couric, she was promoting her book, trying to
think of some of the other people that I've talked to who
are promoting books. One of the judge not Wynonna Judd. But
who's the who's the daughter? Isn't why No, nine?
Janice Porter: Ashley? We're known as the older daughter.
Yeah.
Amy Chodoff: Why? No, no. Yeah, I talked to her. I think I've
talked to Ashley too. And and a whole bunch of country stars. I
mean, yeah,
Janice Porter: of course, from what you said, so fun. So if
someone's coming to work with you on their story. What would
you say? Like, do they need to bring it usually for their for
their, their website, or their book, the writing the beginning
of their book or something like that,
Amy Chodoff: can be for the beginning of a book, it could be
they need, they need the pitch for their book, because they
don't know how to pitch it. It could be the story for your
website, because a lot of a lot of websites have the about us
section. And if you look through companies about us sections, a
lot of times their stories of how the company was created the
story of the founders, and almost picture essays, you know,
with pictures or maybe video and, you know, there's there's
so many different ways that you can do it.
Janice Porter: So you like to play pickleball? I do. I wish
that it started before I wreck my knee because I think I would
love playing pickleball I
Amy Chodoff: haven't played in a few weeks because it's been hot
and over 100 degrees here. And there's an inside court, but I
haven't gone yet. And we have an outside court in our
development. And also in their summer they play at like seven
in the morning and I'm on the radio so I can't play. Although
I did get the email today that they were it was raining this
morning. So the ladies, we have this group me chat. And the
ladies, we're going to play it at like four o'clock. So maybe I
can get out there at four and play a little but it's fun. And
I'm not are truly athletic person. And I honestly I do not
like to play tennis. But I'm a good ping pong player. And it's
a cross between ping pong, tennis and badminton. And so
I've just I've taken a liking to it. And it's a great social
activity. And I've met a non a lot of nice ladies and gents
playing. And it's been fun.
Janice Porter: That's great. That's awesome. So I like to ask
my guests a couple of questions off the off of the topic. And
one of them is Do you mostly now? Are you a reader, a
listener? Or a viewer? So do you read books like real books? Do
you listen to books? Or podcasts? Or do you watch videos
mostly,
Amy Chodoff: or to my I'm part of a book club in my
neighborhood. So I don't read as much as I used to read but I'm
part of the book club now. So I'm reading a book a month. So I
feel like I'm getting back into that. So that's good. I watch a
lot of Netflix. I don't watch regular TV. I only watch Netflix
or Amazon Prime or something like that. And I do not consume
podcasts. I'm really sort of quirky that way and I don't know
why. But I've never gotten into it and maybe it's because I'm on
the radio. You know when you've talked for four hours a day and
then you come home and a lot of times don't feel like talking
and that's hard for people to understand. But By talking and
listening on the radio, no, I don't right now, but I'm just
talking in general even, you know. Yeah, but I feel like it
takes too long to get to the point. And I'm so used to
getting to the point faster. Okay, that I think that's why
it's it bores me a little bit. Well, I
Janice Porter: guess, you know, it's quite a fascinating field
because it's growing so quickly. I mean, it is it is, right. But
there's, there's real crime, there's stories, there's
interviews, there's so many different types of podcasts,
there's business, there's pleasure. And I've started
branching out a little bit and I'd been listening to while I
listened to a story on cereal, I think it was called One time a
couple years ago, that was fascinating was like an old
radio show with the sound effects. And
Amy Chodoff: there are a lot of good show podcasts like that.
Yes, there are.
Janice Porter: This was called S town. It was about a murder in
Alabama or Arkansas or somewhere. Border from New York,
had been found to come down and help solve this. And it was a
true story. But it was fascinating because the way it
was told it was really good. But then I've been listening to a
lot of celebrities doing podcasts now because I'm finding
that they are naturals at it. And there's a lot of them doing
them and the ones that listen to it some Julia Louie Dreyfus, Oh,
I
Amy Chodoff: love her. Yeah, or you love her
Janice Porter: podcast is called
Amy Chodoff: wiser than me. I really need to start listening
to more
Janice Porter: Clarion and she interviews women who are all
older and wiser than her. Oh, yeah. Pearl brunette Jane Fonda.
Oh, wow. Interesting people. Isabel Allende, Amy Tan, who
wrote the joy love all of these people. And her format's really
interesting, too. So if you ever want to Yeah, she's funny. So
fun, but she's got a potty mouth too. And then I've been
listening to one now called smartlace. Jason Bateman will
Oh, I love him. And Sean Hayes, and they I'm laughing in the
car. I'm laughing the entire time. So those are the kind I've
been listening to. And then, you know, there's just so many
options out there. So I just, I was curious. So being curious.
That's the other thing. And the last thing I want to ask you of
my curiosity, that's my favorite word, curiosity. So I like to
ask my, my guests. Do you think that curiosity is innate, or
learned? And then part two? What are you most curious about
today? I think that
Amy Chodoff: there are some people that are more curious
than other people. But I think you probably can learn to be
more curious, just like you could learn to do anything. You
just have to be more open in your mind, to the experiences
that you have. I just have a natural curiosity. I'm I'm
fascinated by people's lives, I always have been fascinated by
people's lives, which is why I like to interview people. And
I'm weird. And I read obituaries to Aries too, because I love to
find out about people's lives. So I'll just read the
obituaries. I mean, it's it seems a little odd, but I enjoy
that. I enjoy reading about people's lives. And I love
biographies and autobiographies,
Janice Porter: biographies. Yeah.
Amy Chodoff: I really enjoy that. So when you've read that,
that sticks out. It's been a while since I've reading mostly
fiction in my reading group now, but oh, just of all the stars
I've read, you know, all the Dan rather's of the world, I've read
all those books. Okay. You know,
Janice Porter: what do you reading in your book?
Amy Chodoff: Right now we're off for the month, so nothing. So I
gotta look at the list and see what we're doing next month. I
haven't looked yet. Okay. But we've actually read a lot of
interesting things. And I'm, I'm terrible at remembering names,
names of books. But it's really stretched my my brain because
there are things that I never would read. And most of them I
have enjoyed there was one of them. I didn't enjoy, but most
of them I've really, really enjoyed. That's good.
Janice Porter: Because otherwise, to me, that would be
a waste of time. I haven't been in Book Club for years, but I
can't read that fast anymore. I'm trying to scribble at
Amy Chodoff: names for Pete remembering names of people and
remembering book names. I don't know why. Well, I'm reading
Janice Porter: our friends book right now. Allah.
Amy Chodoff: Oh, yeah. I just read her book. Yeah, I'm
Janice Porter: just in the middle of it too. And so I'm
excited about that. So last words for my audience in terms
of storytelling, your one major piece of advice perhaps about
helping people write their stories and then also help can
they find you?
Amy Chodoff: Well, everyone has a story. They just need to, you
know, find it and ask. And if you're trying to find your own
story. Sometimes it's good to ask a family member or friend
and say, Well, you know, what do you like about me your what do
you like about my business? Or what's different? How to why?
How is my business different than somebody else's business?
How does it stand out, because you're too close to it. But if
you have a friend, or a neighbor, or someone who's not
as close to it, try to figure that out. Oftentimes, you can
find your story. That's right there.
Janice Porter: We also write, go ahead. When you see it from that
other person's perspective,
Amy Chodoff: it's like people have trouble writing about
themselves. Like if someone says, you know, write a bio,
everyone freezes. I can't write a bio about myself. And that's
another good tip is talk to you, you know, a spouse or talk to
her friend and say, Well, how do you see me? And then write down
some ideas and then go from there?
Janice Porter: Yeah, definitely. And sometimes I'm afraid to ask
somebody what they think. Yes, it's gonna be completely
different. But no, I'm just teasing. That's great. So thank
you. How can my client you, my audience, find you?
Amy Chodoff: I'm on LinkedIn. Under my name, Amy, and I'll
spell it ch o DROF. F as in Frank, that's Shudra. That's how
it's pronounced. Yeah. That's the best way to reach out to me
on LinkedIn.
Janice Porter: Perfect. And if they're in the Dallas Fort Worth
area, they're going to tune into radio 570 K, if Correct?
Amy Chodoff: Yep. Or 96.3 FM HD two, or anyone can listen online
anywhere in the world at KLA f.com 5am to 9am Central Time.
Janice Porter: Oh, wow. Yes, of course. The world has changed so
much.
Amy Chodoff: And it's an it's DFW is Morning News with David
Amy.
Janice Porter: Awesome. And you want to sign us off. I want to
Amy Chodoff: sign us off. Well, thank you so much, Janice, for
having us. It's been such a pleasure. And so much fun. And
you're a delight and I wish I could interview you can can we
turn the tables here for a little bit?
Janice Porter: Maybe next time? Maybe on another podcast. Okay,
sounds good. Thank you so much. Thanks for being here. And
thanks to my audience for listening as usual, please check
Amy's LinkedIn profile out and see if she can help you with
your story. Remember to stay connected and be remembered