Welcome back, you guys.
Speaker:This is week two of Our Mothers Knew It.
Speaker:And before we get into the verses this week, I wanted to take a
Speaker:second to help you understand why we have this name change.
Speaker:So for the last four years, this course has been called Creative Come Follow Me.
Speaker:And as we were heading into this new wrong.
Speaker:Remember last week we talked about the spiral staircase and how we're going
Speaker:to go across that same ground but we'll be at a higher vantage point.
Speaker:I felt like we needed to embrace that with the course and we needed a fresh new name.
Speaker:So I batted around a lot of ideas.
Speaker:I asked some of you guys on the live.
Speaker:I asked friends and family.
Speaker:I prayed a lot and the one that seemed to resonate the most
Speaker:ironically came from my own mother.
Speaker:She's the one that recommended it.
Speaker:Our mothers knew it.
Speaker:And let me tell you why this one clicked right into my soul.
Speaker:Here's what I love about that story.
Speaker:Basically, that story comes with the stripling warriors.
Speaker:So you get that verse, that line of text at the end of their story, when
Speaker:they're on the battlefield with Helaman and he is worried for them and they
Speaker:declare boldly that they're not afraid.
Speaker:They don't fear death.
Speaker:In fact, if you look in the verses, this is what it says.
Speaker:This is Alma 56, 47, and 48.
Speaker:Now they had never fought, yet they did not fear death.
Speaker:And they did think more upon the liberty of their fathers
Speaker:than they did upon their lives.
Speaker:Yea, they had been taught by their mothers that if they did
Speaker:not doubt, God would deliver them.
Speaker:And they rehearsed unto me the words of their mothers, saying, We do not doubt.
Speaker:Our mothers knew it.
Speaker:What I think is so powerful about this part of their story is that the
Speaker:well of testimony that they seem to be pulling from comes from both parents.
Speaker:I love that what they saw their fathers do was keep covenants,
Speaker:despite tremendous obstacles.
Speaker:I mean, it would have been really tempting to unearth those weapons and go
Speaker:fight for your family and defend them.
Speaker:And in this moment, the fathers chose to keep their covenants and stop
Speaker:and let their sons fight instead.
Speaker:And I can't imagine how hard that was to keep.
Speaker:In addition to what those fathers taught, they also have
Speaker:the wisdom of their mothers.
Speaker:These are converts for the most part.
Speaker:I mean, we've only had the gospel with this group of people for 20 or 30 years.
Speaker:And so all of them are fairly new, which means I can't imagine these mothers were
Speaker:incredible, eloquent, scholarly teachers.
Speaker:They were just diligent, and they had a rock solid belief that God would deliver.
Speaker:And they taught it to their sons, and because the sons had this well
Speaker:of understanding to pull from, in this key moment, they stood,
Speaker:and they stood without fear.
Speaker:That's what I hope with this course.
Speaker:In fact, it's what I hope for my come follow me, in general, with my own family.
Speaker:That somehow, The fire of my testimony and the testimony of my husband will
Speaker:get passed to that next generation.
Speaker:They'll be intrigued and come close and through the experiences that
Speaker:we have together that they'll want to hold on to that fire themselves.
Speaker:I, that's why, that's why the name change occurred.
Speaker:I hope we can capture that.
Speaker:We're going to do it this year, like I mentioned last week, by changing
Speaker:up the structure a little bit.
Speaker:What we'll start with are the insights, this will be a recap for some of you,
Speaker:but we'll do seven insights in these videos to give you some ideas about
Speaker:things that caught my eye and how I went into them a little bit deeper to try and
Speaker:understand what they meant for me, what these verses are trying to say to me.
Speaker:The other thing we'll do is ask five questions.
Speaker:So at the end of the insights video, you're going to see five questions.
Speaker:These are just designed to help you.
Speaker:stimulate conversation.
Speaker:I, even if you never tell me your answer, I hope the spirit prompts you
Speaker:with answers or it pushes you into your scriptures to go find the answer or that
Speaker:it just gives you ways to have really good conversations, like on your way
Speaker:to dropping your kids off at school, or as you're out with your spouse on
Speaker:a date that you guys can talk about these things and, you know, mull it over
Speaker:and see what the spirit teaches you.
Speaker:And then last but not least, as always, there will always be three object
Speaker:lessons, just because I think this is a way to Ignite fires in your kids,
Speaker:get them to come close, be curious, and want to know for themselves
Speaker:the same way these soldiers did.
Speaker:I just think there's power in that passing of the torch, and I hope to reinforce
Speaker:that this year with Our Mothers Knew It.
Speaker:This week we're going to study five chapters.
Speaker:They're probably five of the most familiar chapters of the entire Book
Speaker:of Mormon because so many of us have started and restarted in these same
Speaker:verses, but I actually think there's so much depth and weight to these chapters
Speaker:because this is Nephi's origin story.
Speaker:He's going to tell us how things began for his family, where things pivoted in
Speaker:a dramatic way and how it impacted them.
Speaker:For me, what I think I loved the most is it felt like a coming of age story.
Speaker:Those are some of my very favorite novels to read or biographies for that matter.
Speaker:But I really love a coming of age story because you get this Arc, right?
Speaker:You get a innocent beginning and then you get trials and struggles and very
Speaker:memorable experiences, and then by the end, the main character has changed.
Speaker:Somehow they have matured and aged.
Speaker:What I think is fascinating about those movies or those books
Speaker:is that not everybody changes.
Speaker:Usually the protagonist changes and they age in a matter of days or weeks
Speaker:through these different experiences, but not everyone around them does.
Speaker:And that's, it's the contrast that catches your eye.
Speaker:And for me, it kind of tethers that character to my heart.
Speaker:That's what I see with Nephi this week.
Speaker:'cause where we begin in chapter one, he's gonna talk about
Speaker:himself being exceedingly young.
Speaker:And where we end in four and five, he's gonna talk about being a man,
Speaker:a man of large stature, a man.
Speaker:He repeats it over and over again.
Speaker:And I only a few weeks, maybe a month passes between those two dates.
Speaker:You know, they're gonna go into the wilderness and have to come
Speaker:all the way back to get the plates.
Speaker:And by the time we're in five, we're at the where they have the plates.
Speaker:They're gonna still.
Speaker:be in the wilderness for eight more years, but not that much time
Speaker:has passed as far as I can tell.
Speaker:And so something dramatic happens for Nephi in these intervening weeks
Speaker:and you get to study it this week.
Speaker:I think you're gonna love it.
Speaker:You're also gonna love, I think, getting to know Lehi because you get
Speaker:to know Lehi through Nephi's eyes.
Speaker:And Nephi, who's writing this after his father has passed away, has
Speaker:incredible things to say about his dad.
Speaker:His dad, the prophet, his dad, the imperfect father, his dad, the The one
Speaker:who continually forgives and extends hope and that's his dad and you get to read
Speaker:all about him in this week's chapters.
Speaker:I kind of see Nephi R.
Speaker:Z.
Speaker:Lehi a bit like a renegade of sorts.
Speaker:I really love in Joseph Smith history he talks about how
Speaker:Satan saw him as a disturber.
Speaker:Remember when we studied that together?
Speaker:Like he knew that he was going to be a disturber of Satan's plans.
Speaker:I see that with Lehi.
Speaker:He is someone who is not afraid to Push back against the traditions of his day and
Speaker:to say I want my own connection with God and I want to know for Myself what is true
Speaker:and then because of what he knows he goes, you know He gets direction and he takes
Speaker:his family and they go and we're gonna learn all about it I think it's it's got
Speaker:really familiar Hope in it, you know, the same way you felt with Abraham when he has
Speaker:to make a big departure or later when we read about Alma Senior leaving the court
Speaker:of King Noah and making a big departure and Joseph Smith in the first vision when
Speaker:he has to make a big departure of these, these moments where they make that choice
Speaker:and they take those few first steps into the wilderness are so riveting to read.
Speaker:So this is going to be a really good week of study.
Speaker:You guys grab your scriptures, grab your notes.
Speaker:It's time to get started.
Speaker:I call this first spark, finding a holy place in the wilderness.
Speaker:This comes mostly from chapter one, but also a little bit
Speaker:that you find in chapter two.
Speaker:I'm reading chapter one and I'm seeing a little bit about Lehi's
Speaker:story, you know, how things began.
Speaker:For me, Lehi is a lot like Amulek.
Speaker:So do you remember when Alma is coming into his city and Amulek is kind of a.
Speaker:big deal there.
Speaker:You know, he has friends.
Speaker:He's got family.
Speaker:He's sounds like he's pretty wealthy.
Speaker:He's got a very established life.
Speaker:And then he encounters Alma.
Speaker:In fact, he talks about how he resisted it a few times and then finally submitted to
Speaker:the spirit and, you know, invited Alma in.
Speaker:And then he becomes this mighty mission companion for Alma.
Speaker:And Lehi kind of reminds me of that, in that I don't know
Speaker:much about his backstory.
Speaker:I don't know if before this point in time, he was just a righteous man who
Speaker:kept all the laws of Moses and did all the things and He just had these
Speaker:stirrings, almost like Joseph Smith did, that something wasn't right.
Speaker:Or maybe he heard some of the prophets in the area who were
Speaker:teaching against the establishment.
Speaker:You know, Jeremiah is happening.
Speaker:There's several contemporary prophets in this time.
Speaker:You can go in the notes and learn more about that.
Speaker:But I don't know if he heard Jeremiah teach and then
Speaker:Something lit a fire in him.
Speaker:Almost the same way you have, you know, Abinadi catching
Speaker:fire in Alma Senior's heart.
Speaker:I'm not sure what happens with Lehi, but in this moment he chooses to pivot.
Speaker:He chooses to turn to the Lord and learn.
Speaker:What I like is he gets this clear vision.
Speaker:So when he seeks additional light and knowledge and he prays directly to the
Speaker:Lord, he gets an incredible vision.
Speaker:He sees the fate of Jerusalem.
Speaker:He sees that a Messiah will indeed come, and a little more
Speaker:context about how he'll come.
Speaker:We don't have the full story because Lehi's record was lost with the 116 pages.
Speaker:So we have Nephi's kind of abridged version of Lehi's story here, but it seems
Speaker:to be that promise of a Messiah that is coming and that he sees God on his throne
Speaker:that helps Lehi know the established religion that you've been a part of.
Speaker:Some things have been distorted, and let me teach you something true.
Speaker:I want, I want to bring your family somewhere else.
Speaker:So if you look in 15, it says the power that comes from it.
Speaker:And after this manner was the language of my father, and the praising of his God.
Speaker:For his soul did rejoice, and his whole heart was filled because
Speaker:of the things which he had seen.
Speaker:Yea, the Lord had shown them unto him.
Speaker:This is the result of his efforts.
Speaker:He feels this joy.
Speaker:In addition to the fact that he saw all of Jerusalem destroyed in
Speaker:this vision, he still feels joy because he knows destruction is
Speaker:temporary, but a Messiah is permanent.
Speaker:And so I think he feels bolstered by this vision of things.
Speaker:And so then he goes out.
Speaker:Because remember, as soon as you know something, you can't wait to tell someone.
Speaker:The same way, as soon as you really solidify your testimony, you're eager
Speaker:to do your calling and you're eager to serve a mission and because you
Speaker:know it's true and you know what your life was like before you knew
Speaker:and you know what it's like now and you Want other people to taste it.
Speaker:That's Lehi.
Speaker:He is out in a city that he loves, trying to share what he knows now.
Speaker:It just doesn't go very well.
Speaker:So this is 19 and 20.
Speaker:And it came to pass that the Jews did mock him because of the
Speaker:things which he testified of them.
Speaker:For he truly testified of their wickedness and their abominations.
Speaker:And he testified that the things which he saw and heard, and also the things
Speaker:which he read in a book, manifested plainly in the coming of the Messiah
Speaker:and also the redemption of the world.
Speaker:And then in 20.
Speaker:And when the Jews heard these things, they were angry with him.
Speaker:Yea, even as with the prophets of old, whom they had cast out, and stoned,
Speaker:and slain, and they also sought his life, that they might take it away.
Speaker:I just think this would be such a hard spot to be in.
Speaker:I think to feel so motivated by goodness, you know, that you see hope and you want
Speaker:to share that message with the world and have these doors slammed in your face.
Speaker:In fact, it's even a step beyond having a door slammed in your face.
Speaker:These people want him out.
Speaker:They want him gone.
Speaker:They want him killed if need be.
Speaker:They want his message squelched.
Speaker:And I just think there's this.
Speaker:Heaviness to his calling that I think must have been so hard for Nephi to watch.
Speaker:Nephi's a teenager at this point in time, at least most scholars seem to
Speaker:think that he's somewhere in his teens and that would have been really hard to
Speaker:see your father who was like Amulek and probably popular and probably wealthy and
Speaker:to descend that social ladder so fast.
Speaker:Um, but I think it's interesting to see how the Lord reassures Lehi.
Speaker:This is where that bridge happens between chapters 1 and chapter 2.
Speaker:In chapter 2, verse 1 and 2, he says this, For behold, it came to pass
Speaker:that the Lord spake unto my father, yea, even in a dream, and said unto
Speaker:him, Blessed art thou, Lehi, because of the things which thou hast done.
Speaker:And because thou hast been faithful, and declared unto this people the
Speaker:things which I commanded thee, behold, they seek to take away thy life.
Speaker:And it came to pass that the Lord commanded my father, even in a
Speaker:dream, that he should take his family and depart into the wilderness.
Speaker:I found myself asking, if Lehi is so blessed, then why does he
Speaker:have to go into the wilderness?
Speaker:Why can't God just change the hearts of the people in Jerusalem?
Speaker:If he's trying so diligently to do what God asked him to do and to
Speaker:preach the word, why did he fail?
Speaker:And I just found my heart aching for him because I've felt this way in callings
Speaker:in the past where I felt like I was following promptings, I felt like I
Speaker:was doing what I was supposed to do.
Speaker:And things Fail, or they seem to fail.
Speaker:What I love that you get, this is where the spark hit in one
Speaker:and two, is God doesn't measure failure the way we measure failure.
Speaker:For him, Lehi chose to be obedient.
Speaker:He chose to seek more light and knowledge and then act on it.
Speaker:He chose to set down his social importance.
Speaker:He chose to set down even the love of some of his sons in order to face God
Speaker:and tell the truth, speak clearly.
Speaker:And God measures that.
Speaker:Abundantly.
Speaker:I think that's why he asked him to go into the wilderness.
Speaker:What I learned in my study as I was digging into that word wilderness,
Speaker:I just found myself intrigued by it.
Speaker:Why does God send us into the wilderness?
Speaker:And I think for me, the wilderness sometimes is a holy place.
Speaker:I think Lehi's situation with his family is a chance for them
Speaker:to take a breath of fresh air.
Speaker:To get his kids away from all of the influences that are pulling them down.
Speaker:To get them out of a city that inevitably will burn and be destroyed
Speaker:and people taken off into slavery.
Speaker:Like, that's already kind of beginning to happen in Lehi's day.
Speaker:So this isn't Crazy new doctrine.
Speaker:Jeremiah's been teaching the same thing.
Speaker:And he gets this chance to depart.
Speaker:Unlike Jeremiah, who has to stay and watch the destruction of Jerusalem happen, Lehi
Speaker:gets a chance to go into the wilderness.
Speaker:What I loved is the promise that comes when he chooses to go.
Speaker:I think a lot of people in scripture have this opportunity to leave
Speaker:what is comfortable and familiar and go into the wilderness.
Speaker:And it's hard, and you have to set down a lot of Things that
Speaker:the world says are important.
Speaker:Like with Lehi, he has to set down his wealth, he has to set
Speaker:down his family's inheritance.
Speaker:I mean, that's land and property that's probably passed down for generations.
Speaker:He has to set all that down and he has to choose to go out
Speaker:into this barren wasteland.
Speaker:But what he gets in exchange is a promise.
Speaker:In fact, I love that in this, in these chapters, it's called a land of promise.
Speaker:It's not a promised land, although I think they probably mean the same thing.
Speaker:In this case, I feel like what the Lord is saying is, this is
Speaker:a land where there is promise.
Speaker:There is hope for your posterity.
Speaker:There is a future that is open ended, as opposed to Jerusalem
Speaker:that has an absolute cutoff time.
Speaker:There will be a day when that city is destroyed and not one
Speaker:stone is left on top of another.
Speaker:The land of promise is open ended.
Speaker:If they are righteous, there is no limit to what the Lord can bless them with.
Speaker:And that's what he's promised.
Speaker:I think what's powerful is He finds a way to make this wilderness a holy place.
Speaker:Part of the way he does that, I think, is by dwelling in a tent.
Speaker:You know, he changes everything about his family's lifestyle and their
Speaker:structure and they create a holy place.
Speaker:That's really different than what the Jews of his day taught.
Speaker:Especially the, you know, very Orthodox Jews of his day would have
Speaker:said the temple is the holy place and only certain people can go and
Speaker:only on certain times of a year.
Speaker:But Lehi, in this situation, he takes that tent and he makes it a holy place.
Speaker:They will build altars.
Speaker:They will make sacrifices in their own place because I think it's
Speaker:exactly what President Nelson has taught us about the home being
Speaker:next to the temple in sacredness.
Speaker:It is someplace where Holiness happens, and I just think, for me, one of the
Speaker:most powerful things I learned this week is I need to make holy places
Speaker:out of my wilderness experiences.
Speaker:Hard callings, hard relationships, hard medical situations, like when we've
Speaker:been dealing with chemo, I feel like he almost pushes us into the wilderness.
Speaker:But in those wilderness moments, I also get a chance to find a holy place, you
Speaker:know, this center point where I can figure out my faith and I can come to
Speaker:love God and know Him and see His hand.
Speaker:When he asks you to go into the wilderness, I think what he's
Speaker:really doing is inviting you to help create a holy place.
Speaker:And Lehi and Sariah do, and I loved that part of these first few chapters.
Speaker:My second spark comes a little bit later in chapter 2.
Speaker:So this is when they're en route, right?
Speaker:They're on their way out of the city, heading into the wilderness,
Speaker:and some of the family is not happy, and they are making it known.
Speaker:What I think is really powerful in this, This exchange is that in this moment,
Speaker:when his sons are grumbling against him and have these really hostile feelings
Speaker:toward him, Lehi elevates, you know, he chooses to see his children afar off.
Speaker:I just think, you know, we learned about that a little bit in the New
Speaker:Testament, but it's this idea of like, I'm going to look beyond how you are
Speaker:today towards what I know you can be, which is exactly what our father in
Speaker:heaven does for us every single day.
Speaker:I'm going to look past who you are today, Maria, and trust that you can be.
Speaker:A lot better.
Speaker:I love that you see Lehi act in this way, because what he does in this moment,
Speaker:when I would have been frustrated and kind of commanded and said, this is
Speaker:what we're doing and you're coming.
Speaker:He instead.
Speaker:Elevates and he compliments his sons.
Speaker:So he basically says to them what he hopes for them to be.
Speaker:He actually can picture Laman and Lemuel as different men in this
Speaker:moment, not just because he's a prophet, but because he's a father.
Speaker:And in this moment, he can see.
Speaker:uh, far off.
Speaker:And he says to them, I think you're greater than this.
Speaker:In fact, I think you can be like this mountain.
Speaker:I think you can be like this river.
Speaker:I think it's a river and a valley.
Speaker:You can go in the notes and learn more about why I love those two
Speaker:comparisons for these two boys.
Speaker:But I just think his, he's trying to elevate and he's trying to
Speaker:comfort himself in that moment to say, no, I see more in you.
Speaker:I think this is parenting all the time that we're supposed
Speaker:to come with hope filled eyes.
Speaker:Remember repentance is all about having a fresh perspective on things.
Speaker:Lehi demonstrates that for us.
Speaker:He is coming with fresh eyes and saying to his sons, I still
Speaker:see this bright future for you.
Speaker:You could be like this river.
Speaker:You could be like this valley.
Speaker:It's powerful.
Speaker:And the reaction to that powerful spirit driven parental
Speaker:commentary is more murmuring.
Speaker:This is what you see in 11.
Speaker:Now, this is chapter 2, verse 11.
Speaker:Now this he spake because of the stiff neckedness of Laman and Lemuel.
Speaker:For behold, they did murmur in many things against their father, because he was a
Speaker:visionary man, and had led them out of the land of Jerusalem to leave the land
Speaker:of their inheritance, and their gold, and their silver, and their precious
Speaker:things, to perish in the wilderness.
Speaker:And this said he that they had done because of, they said he had done
Speaker:because of the foolish imaginations of his And thus Laman and Lemuel.
Speaker:being the eldest, did murmur against their father.
Speaker:They did murmur because they knew not the dealings of the God that created them.
Speaker:I love that Nephi tells us the source of a hardened heart.
Speaker:Their murmuring comes because they don't understand God.
Speaker:They don't understand who he is, his character, his attributes, his nature.
Speaker:They don't have that personal relationship, so they can't see clearly.
Speaker:And I think Lehi, as their parent, knows this.
Speaker:I think he sees that they have a clouded vision.
Speaker:They are seeing through a glass darkly, and he wants them to.
Speaker:Open their eyes.
Speaker:And the only way they can come to trust him is to know God better.
Speaker:We know that because we see the contrast in Nephi's words.
Speaker:So if you look from like 16 and then 19 and 20, this is Nephi.
Speaker:And it came to pass that I, Nephi, being exceedingly young, nevertheless
Speaker:large in stature, and also having a great desire to know the mysteries
Speaker:of God, wherefore I did cry unto the Lord, and behold, he did visit me.
Speaker:and did soften my heart, that I did believe all the words which
Speaker:had been spoken by my father.
Speaker:Wherefore, I did not rebel against him like unto my brothers.
Speaker:And then 19 to 20.
Speaker:And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto me, saying, Blessed art
Speaker:thou, Nephi, because of thy faith.
Speaker:For thou hast sought me diligently with lowliness of heart.
Speaker:And inasmuch as ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall prosper, and
Speaker:ye shall be led to a land of promise.
Speaker:Yea, a land which I have prepared for you.
Speaker:Yea, a land which is choice above all other lands.
Speaker:This is the contrast to me.
Speaker:Nephi.
Speaker:is obedient, even though he doesn't understand fully.
Speaker:He hasn't seen the visions his dad has seen.
Speaker:He doesn't have that fire the same way that Lehi does, but he is
Speaker:obedient because he trusts his dad.
Speaker:And I think sometimes with us, that's what's required.
Speaker:You know, sometimes when the Lord asks us to do hard things, I don't think he has
Speaker:the time or we probably don't have the maturity to process all the reasons why.
Speaker:So he just says to me, Maria, I need you to do this.
Speaker:I need you to do it now.
Speaker:You won't understand it now.
Speaker:Just go forward.
Speaker:That's what Nephi does in this moment.
Speaker:And because he chooses to say, I trust you, dad.
Speaker:I don't get it, but I trust you.
Speaker:Because he chooses to do that, the Lord can bless him with his
Speaker:own light and understanding.
Speaker:The Lord visits Nephi.
Speaker:He sees for himself what his father saw.
Speaker:And I just think that's a huge evidence to me that when I choose to
Speaker:take steps forward in those moments where I feel like he's asking me
Speaker:to do something I don't understand.
Speaker:I am blessed with light.
Speaker:Not immediately, always.
Speaker:I think Nephi had to take a few more steps into the wilderness, maybe days or weeks.
Speaker:But that light came because he trusted in his dad enough.
Speaker:That light came.
Speaker:And that's the promise he gives to us as well.
Speaker:I loved Elder Maxwell.
Speaker:You can go in the notes and learn more about this full talk.
Speaker:He has a whole talk about murmuring and another one about Laman and Lemuel.
Speaker:And I learned boatloads from both those talks.
Speaker:Here's a quick quote about Laman and Lemuel.
Speaker:In short, Laman and Lemuel's own lack of character kept them from understanding
Speaker:the perfect character of God.
Speaker:No wonder the Prophet Joseph Smith said, If men do not comprehend the character of
Speaker:God, they cannot comprehend themselves, or they do not comprehend themselves.
Speaker:Laman and Lemuel did not realize either that a loving God will inevitably be a
Speaker:tutoring father, who wants his children to be truly happy and to come home.
Speaker:Not understanding God's dealings sufficiently, Laman and Lemuel
Speaker:miss the most important attributes of God's character, His love.
Speaker:The closer we come to God, the easier those moments will be.
Speaker:When we feel our heart hardening in moments of challenge and trial
Speaker:and test, we have to remember the character and nature of God.
Speaker:That's why I think Remember last week when we were talking about how
Speaker:that visit in 3rd Nephi are the fast growing seeds of the Book of Mormon?
Speaker:And if you study the miracles of the Gospels, they're those fast
Speaker:growing seeds of the New Testament.
Speaker:It helps you know the character and nature and attributes of God.
Speaker:And when you know that better, your heart softens.
Speaker:And in these moments of decision, you can Be humble, even lowly of heart,
Speaker:and receive the light and understanding you need to carry forward in faith.
Speaker:There's just an epic promise in it.
Speaker:One of my favorite sparks is spark number three.
Speaker:I'm calling this passing of the torch, and this is why.
Speaker:So in, after this last section where Nephi has a visionary experience of his
Speaker:own with the Lord, and he learns some key things that there is a promised land.
Speaker:He learns that he's going to be a ruler and a teacher over his brethren.
Speaker:He learns that His father is indeed a prophet and has been
Speaker:teaching the words of God.
Speaker:Like he knows all those promises are true and he comes with that knowledge.
Speaker:And I imagine he rushes to Lehi, right?
Speaker:Wouldn't you want to come and tell your dad?
Speaker:Like, I know, I know for myself, I saw it myself.
Speaker:What's interesting to me is as soon as Nephi gets to the tent of his father, he
Speaker:hears about a vision that Lehi has had.
Speaker:I don't even know you guys, if Nephi gets a chance to tell his dad what he just
Speaker:experienced with the Lord, he instead.
Speaker:evidences what he experienced with the Lord in this chapter, and I just love it.
Speaker:I think this must have just been one of the high points of Lehi's life in these
Speaker:verses, because basically what Lehi tells Nephi is all about the brass plates, that
Speaker:there, there is a record that needs to be brought back, that even though they've
Speaker:gone weeks into the wilderness, now they need to turn around and the sons need
Speaker:to go on their own back to Jerusalem to retrieve these plates because it has
Speaker:a record of their fathers and it's got the law written on it and they need it.
Speaker:And even though.
Speaker:Nephi's older brothers resisted and murmured and saw it as Lehi's,
Speaker:you know, opinions and not God's.
Speaker:Nephi doesn't.
Speaker:Nephi has this powerful reaction.
Speaker:It's the one that you probably have memorized.
Speaker:It's in seven.
Speaker:I just don't think you can ever read seven in isolation.
Speaker:So seven says, And it came to pass that I, Nephi, said unto my
Speaker:father, I will go and do the things which the Lord hath commanded.
Speaker:For I know that the Lord gives no commandment unto the children of
Speaker:men, save he shall prepare a way for them that they may accomplish
Speaker:the thing which he commanded them.
Speaker:Nephi is no longer obeying his father out of You know, a good
Speaker:hearted son obeying his dad because honor thy father and thy mother.
Speaker:He is obeying this commandment because of what God promised.
Speaker:That is the passing of a torch of testimony.
Speaker:I feel like when Nephi makes his choice, it is evidence to his
Speaker:dad that he knows for himself.
Speaker:And I just think it's so weighty.
Speaker:I think two big things jumped out at me about this verse.
Speaker:First, I love that when Nephi chooses to articulate his testimony, he
Speaker:doesn't just say what he believes.
Speaker:He also says why he believes it.
Speaker:He believes he can go and do things because he trusts
Speaker:that God keeps his promises.
Speaker:I'm like, when I bear my testimony to my kids, I want to do this better.
Speaker:I don't just want to tell them that, yes, I believe in Christ or
Speaker:that I believe Christ is merciful.
Speaker:I want to back that up with, let me tell you why I know he's merciful.
Speaker:Let me tell you the stories I read in the New Testament about
Speaker:how he showed mercy to others.
Speaker:Let me talk to you about.
Speaker:What I know about Jesus Christ from the Book of Mormon and how
Speaker:He extends mercy over and over.
Speaker:That's how I know Jesus Christ and I know He's merciful.
Speaker:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker:I love how Nephi captures both in this moment.
Speaker:And so I think the resulting impact is what you see in 8.
Speaker:So it says, And it came to pass that when my father had heard these words,
Speaker:he was exceedingly glad for he knew that I had been blessed of the Lord.
Speaker:I don't know that Lehi ever knows exactly what happened to his son in that
Speaker:vision, but he can see it in his face.
Speaker:The same way, you know, when Hannah went out on a mission and had spiritual
Speaker:experiences, I don't think I ever got to feel or know all the details of
Speaker:what happened to her on her mission.
Speaker:I just could see it in her face when she got home.
Speaker:I knew what she knew, and that is one of those moments where
Speaker:you as a parent get to Rejoice.
Speaker:You know, you don't rest, because I don't think you ever really
Speaker:rest as a parent, but you rejoice.
Speaker:And Lehi does in this moment, because the testimony that he's been kindling
Speaker:and building now just got picked up.
Speaker:In fact, I love what you see in 9 as well.
Speaker:And I, Nephi, and my brethren took our journey in the wilderness with our
Speaker:tents to go to the land of Jerusalem.
Speaker:The real way Nephi evidences that he knows God lives and will keep his promises
Speaker:is that he picks up his tents and his brothers who are grumbly and hard and
Speaker:says, we got this dad, we're going to go.
Speaker:You know, when you go, the power of God rushes in because Nephi
Speaker:doesn't know everything yet.
Speaker:He knows almost nothing yet other than God keeps his promises.
Speaker:This is what God wants from us.
Speaker:Here we go.
Speaker:I just love that.
Speaker:I love it as a parent.
Speaker:I love it as a disciple.
Speaker:I just think there's power in it.
Speaker:I also think Nephi is taking on this role as a leader and a teacher of Brothers.
Speaker:It would have been, I think, to some extent, easier for
Speaker:Nephi to say, Dad, I got this.
Speaker:I'm going on my own.
Speaker:But that was not the direction that Lehi got.
Speaker:As a prophet, he got direction that all the brothers were supposed to go.
Speaker:So Nephi, as a follower of the prophet, says, I'm going to take my grumbly
Speaker:brothers, who never pull their weight, and I'm going to take them with me.
Speaker:Because I think Nephi knows something about their heart.
Speaker:Now that he understands God better, he understands them better, too.
Speaker:I learned this from President Eyring.
Speaker:Let me read you this quote.
Speaker:He says, the more we have the doctrine of Christ in our lives and hearts,
Speaker:the more we feel greater love and sympathy for those who have never had
Speaker:the blessings of faith in Jesus Christ or are struggling to maintain it.
Speaker:It is hard to keep the Lord's commandments without faith and trust in him as
Speaker:some lose their faith in the Savior.
Speaker:They may even attack his counsel.
Speaker:calling good evil and evil good.
Speaker:To avoid this tragic error, it is crucial that any personal revelation
Speaker:we receive be constant with the teachings of the Lord and his prophets.
Speaker:Brothers and sisters, it takes faith to be obedient to the Lord's commandments.
Speaker:It takes faith in Jesus Christ to serve others for him.
Speaker:It takes faith to go out and teach his gospel and offer it to people who may
Speaker:not feel the voice of the Spirit or may even deny the reality of his message.
Speaker:But as we exercise our faith in Christ and following his living prophet,
Speaker:faith will increase across the world.
Speaker:I think Nephi gets this about his brothers.
Speaker:He can see that they can't see clearly because they don't understand
Speaker:the nature and character of God.
Speaker:So he is more sympathetic, I think, when they bristle.
Speaker:He is understanding when they murmur.
Speaker:He doesn't like it and he sure hopes to change it.
Speaker:But he gets where that comes from, and I think what's powerful about
Speaker:Nephi is, as a ruler and a teacher over them, he's going to continually
Speaker:try to help them understand God.
Speaker:Because instead of just correcting their behavior, if he can help them
Speaker:understand God, and God's promises and God's scriptures and God's prophets,
Speaker:then they will understand how to move forward in faith like he does.
Speaker:They'll be on common ground.
Speaker:So that's going to be his focus from this point forward.
Speaker:Spark number four I call Redefining Failure, and here's why.
Speaker:This is covering that section of scripture where you learn about
Speaker:their attempts to get the plates.
Speaker:Multiple times the brothers tried different strategies to go in and get
Speaker:these plates from Laban, and he refuses.
Speaker:In fact, it ends with them getting chased for their lives out of the city.
Speaker:Doesn't go well.
Speaker:And I found myself really sympathetic to Nephi because he's trying so hard.
Speaker:You know, when they first go to the city and their first attempt
Speaker:is, you know, beginning, they draw straws, which is basically just
Speaker:a way to kind of know God's will.
Speaker:That was their tradition of the day is if you drew the short straw,
Speaker:that meant that God willed you to be the one and you'd probably have
Speaker:the most success out of anybody to accomplish the work ahead of you.
Speaker:So when Laman goes and Laman shuts him down.
Speaker:I bet Nephi wondered, you know, like, why didn't you tell me?
Speaker:In fact, the same thing happens on the second one, but even more intensified.
Speaker:Because on the second attempt, Nephi is the one that has the idea.
Speaker:So he says to his brothers, hey, we've got riches back at home.
Speaker:Remember, we had to leave all of our treasures behind.
Speaker:Let's go get those and we'll offer a trade.
Speaker:Let's take them to Laban.
Speaker:We know he likes shiny things.
Speaker:Let's trade.
Speaker:And so they do, all of them go and they get the belongings and
Speaker:then they go into Laban's house and they They are chased out.
Speaker:Laban wants that stuff so much that he's willing to break the law of Moses and
Speaker:commit murder in order to acquire it.
Speaker:And I just found myself sympathizing with Nephi, because I have taught my kids
Speaker:and myself the story of green lights.
Speaker:So, you know, you probably have said this to your kids too, where basically
Speaker:when it comes to Revelation, oftentimes I think the Lord is giving us a chance
Speaker:to do what we think is best, right?
Speaker:And that he promises.
Speaker:If you don't hear from me, keep going forward.
Speaker:I teach this with green and red lights, basically saying that if, if I don't
Speaker:hear anything else, if I don't see a red light, I should assume it's green.
Speaker:And if there's something I'm going to do that's wrong, the Lord will give
Speaker:me a bright red light and I'll know.
Speaker:And I teach that you guys, and I found myself thinking with Nephi.
Speaker:Where's his red light?
Speaker:You know, like when Laman was the one that drew the short straw,
Speaker:why wasn't there a red light?
Speaker:Something that said, actually, no, it's Nephi that's gonna pull it off.
Speaker:Why, when Nephi has this great idea that was probably, you know,
Speaker:brought on by the Spirit to bribe Laban, why doesn't that work?
Speaker:And why did they have to waste all that time and Why didn't he get a red light?
Speaker:And my heart went out to him.
Speaker:Cause I feel like I've had those moments where I'm like, you didn't protect me
Speaker:from this failure, this, this falling.
Speaker:Why didn't you protect me?
Speaker:And what I love is as I was studying these verses, you guys, understandings
Speaker:came that the reason there were no red lights is because he was learning
Speaker:at every step of this process.
Speaker:I don't think the Lord put thoughts in Laban's heart to push these guys
Speaker:out or to chase them down and have them murdered, but I do think he can
Speaker:take any situation that we're in and make it work together for our good.
Speaker:So when I looked at this all again, in fact, when I talked to
Speaker:my YSAs about this, I gave them the comparison of Ocean's Eleven.
Speaker:That's what I've written in my margins.
Speaker:Because in any of those heist movies, you know how they have that
Speaker:sequence of scenes where they're doing some reconnaissance work?
Speaker:And so they go to the casino and they like, see which employees
Speaker:are working which station.
Speaker:And then they watch the padlock and see what, what numbers get punched.
Speaker:And then they check to see when, you know, the catering staff comes in.
Speaker:They do all this reconnaissance work to learn things before
Speaker:they ever go in for the big.
Speaker:moment, the big heist.
Speaker:And that's how I read these chapters.
Speaker:I think each of these encounters with Laban teaches them things.
Speaker:None of these got red lights because they, the Lord could
Speaker:use this and teach them things.
Speaker:When Laman goes in the first time to Laban's court, he
Speaker:knows what Laban looks like.
Speaker:He knows where his house is.
Speaker:He learns about Laban's greed.
Speaker:Like he, learn some key things that he can take back to his brothers
Speaker:and add to the reconnaissance pile.
Speaker:When the second attempt fails and they bring all the riches in, now all
Speaker:four of them know where the palace is.
Speaker:They know how to get in and how to get out.
Speaker:They know what, maybe what Laban's armor looks like.
Speaker:They certainly know what his face looks like and what he sounds like.
Speaker:So all of a sudden, when Nephi, down the road on the third attempt, needs
Speaker:to know what Laban sounds like and needs to know what that armor looks
Speaker:like and All of a sudden he knows.
Speaker:So I found myself thinking, these aren't failures.
Speaker:These are stepping stones.
Speaker:The Lord can take any mortal circumstances, things that we chose
Speaker:or things that agency just causes to happen for us because of other
Speaker:people's choices, and he can make all things work together for our good.
Speaker:That's what I see in this story.
Speaker:It is oceans 11, but multiplied.
Speaker:It is, he has all the information he needs to accomplish what
Speaker:needed to be accomplished.
Speaker:And so he goes forward in faith.
Speaker:If you go on the notes, you can read this great talk from Lindsey Robbins,
Speaker:where he talks about basically why good things happen to leaders.
Speaker:And I loved his four points.
Speaker:He basically said first, sometimes the Lord knows that these things give us
Speaker:experience and shall be for our good.
Speaker:Second to allow us to taste the bitter that we may know, the
Speaker:prize know and prize the good.
Speaker:Third, to prove that the battle is the Lord's, and it's only by
Speaker:his grace that we can accomplish his work and become like him.
Speaker:And fourth, to help us develop and hone SCO scores of Christ-like
Speaker:attributes that cannot be refined except through opposition and
Speaker:in the furnace of affliction.
Speaker:So amid a life of stumbling blocks and imperfection, we are
Speaker:all grateful for second chances.
Speaker:That's how I see this story.
Speaker:Now, it is a story of second chances where God says.
Speaker:You made this call and I didn't stop you because there are things we can learn and
Speaker:let me help you take those things that you learned on this failure and help it
Speaker:build to the success that is inevitably coming because I keep my promises.
Speaker:Spark number five, I'm calling the blinders of unbelief and it kind of
Speaker:revolves around that moment between the second and third attempt.
Speaker:When the brothers of Nephi attack.
Speaker:Basically, they are so angry.
Speaker:I think even humiliated.
Speaker:And they're angry at their father and they're angry at Nephi.
Speaker:I think they're probably even angry at God that they are in this state and
Speaker:that they are failing time and again.
Speaker:So remember, they don't have the sight of Nephi.
Speaker:They haven't kept the commandments.
Speaker:They don't have the spirit prompting them.
Speaker:They don't believe in prophets.
Speaker:And so they Struggle to see they see through a glass darkly and the reaction
Speaker:they have is violence and so they come and they beat Nephi and Sam with rods
Speaker:and in the middle of that beating an Angel comes and reminds them who Nephi
Speaker:is that he is he will be there ruler.
Speaker:He will be someone who leads them because of their unbelief.
Speaker:That's why they've sold their birthright and they can't have that, that position
Speaker:anymore, that preeminent position to lead a people because they aren't worthy of it.
Speaker:They sold it when they murmured and turned against God.
Speaker:And so he's making that really clear.
Speaker:What I think is interesting is, as soon as the angel leaves, they murmur again.
Speaker:I know all of us have kind of been baffled by this couple of verses, but I think
Speaker:it makes sense when you don't believe.
Speaker:This is why miracles don't convert well, because they don't have that lasting
Speaker:hold unless you have that well of faith and hope and even charity to pull from.
Speaker:And Laman and Lemuel are in shallow waters when it comes to their faith,
Speaker:and so they It doesn't hold them.
Speaker:Here's what, how it plays out.
Speaker:So this is chapter three, verses 30 and 31.
Speaker:And after the angel had spoken unto us, he departed.
Speaker:And after the angel had departed layman and Leal again began to murmur, saying,
Speaker:how is it possible that the Lord will deliver layman into our hands?
Speaker:Behold, he is a mighty man and he can command 50.
Speaker:Yay.
Speaker:He can even slay 50.
Speaker:Why not us?
Speaker:It's the why not us part that sparked multiple times as I
Speaker:was going through these verses.
Speaker:For me, this is the saddest phrase in this whole week's chapters, one
Speaker:of the saddest in the whole Book of Mormon, because I feel like what these
Speaker:brothers evidence in this moment is.
Speaker:They see themselves as the same as everybody else.
Speaker:They've lost sight of the fact that they are children of the covenant.
Speaker:They've lost sight of the fact that they are disciples of Christ.
Speaker:They've lost sight of the fact that they are a child of God.
Speaker:And a child of God never is the same as anyone else.
Speaker:A faithful, covenant keeping child of God who believes in Jesus Christ has power.
Speaker:They have an opportunity to rise.
Speaker:They are not the same as everyone else.
Speaker:They don't need to be afraid.
Speaker:To me, this is a lot like the situation we saw with David and
Speaker:Goliath in the Old Testament.
Speaker:Remember when David talks to his brothers and he has the faith that God will
Speaker:preserve his people, that even if he walks out there alone against Goliath,
Speaker:he'll have the strength he needs and he can defeat This gigantic enemy.
Speaker:And his brothers laugh at him.
Speaker:And they mock him.
Speaker:And even his dad doesn't believe.
Speaker:And King Saul tries to put armor of an adult on him.
Speaker:And David's like, I, this isn't me.
Speaker:I, that's not gonna help me.
Speaker:I I just need God.
Speaker:If I have God, and I take my smooth stones, and I go out into that
Speaker:valley of Elah, I can be successful.
Speaker:And that's what I think Lehi wanted for his sons.
Speaker:I think when, what I want for my kids, my daughters, and my sons, is
Speaker:when they face these insurmountable obstacles, whether it be a Goliath,
Speaker:or an army of 50, in whatever metaphor you see those, I think what I want
Speaker:them to feel is what Nephi felt.
Speaker:He doesn't need to be afraid.
Speaker:Because he knows that he, plus God, equals enough, every time.
Speaker:He is a child of the covenant, he's a disciple of Christ,
Speaker:and he is a child of God.
Speaker:And he will not be left alone.
Speaker:When he's on God's errand, and he's doing what the Lord prompted him to
Speaker:do, he'll have the help he needs.
Speaker:And so he can face mountains and say, move.
Speaker:That's what happens in these verses.
Speaker:For me, one of my favorite conference talks about this
Speaker:concept comes from Elder Bragg.
Speaker:It's from a couple conferences ago where he talked about Christ like poise.
Speaker:That's what I feel like Nephi has in this moment.
Speaker:He is unafraid.
Speaker:It's what the stripling warriors have when they face that gigantic army.
Speaker:It's what David, little David, had in the Valley of Elah against Goliath
Speaker:and scores of other scripture stories.
Speaker:They have poise that comes from understanding that Christ
Speaker:is on my side, and if Christ is on my side, I cannot fall.
Speaker:So this is what he says.
Speaker:He says, if you go in the, in the If you go on the conference talk, you
Speaker:can read Elder Poise's full talk, but I love these verses from Nephi.
Speaker:This is where he demonstrates it.
Speaker:It's in chapter 4, verses 1 and 2.
Speaker:And it came to pass that I spake unto my brethren, saying, Let
Speaker:us go up again unto Jerusalem.
Speaker:Let us be faithful in keeping the commandments of the Lord.
Speaker:For behold, he is mightier than all the earth.
Speaker:Then why not mightier than Laban and his fifty, or even his tens of thousands?
Speaker:Therefore let us go up.
Speaker:Let us be strong like unto Moses.
Speaker:For he truly spake unto the waters of the Red Sea, and they divided.
Speaker:Hither and thither, and our fathers came through out of captivity on dry ground,
Speaker:and the armies of Pharaoh did follow and were drowned in the waters of the Red Sea.
Speaker:Nephi, we'll talk about this in the object lessons too, but he just, he
Speaker:knows his scriptures, and because he knows his scriptures, he is unafraid.
Speaker:He has poise in this moment.
Speaker:That's why we have to teach our kids the scriptures.
Speaker:It's not just so they know the stories and they have comfort, it's
Speaker:so that in these moments, those anthems can come back to them.
Speaker:They'll think about Moses, they'll think about David, they'll think about
Speaker:those key characters in the scriptures and they will say, no, I can do this.
Speaker:Me plus God equals unstoppable.
Speaker:Nephi knew.
Speaker:I call spark number six, taking courage.
Speaker:Something about that verb choice that I really like.
Speaker:Let me tell you why.
Speaker:So this kind of comes at the end of that story.
Speaker:So after Nephi has acquired the plates, so he's slayed Laban.
Speaker:You can go in the notes.
Speaker:I know I'm kind of jumping things, but I promise in the notes, you can learn
Speaker:a lot more about all that happens in the middle, but he has slayed Laban.
Speaker:He has put on his armor.
Speaker:He's walked to the treasury, met Zoram, got the plates, and now Zoram
Speaker:is following him out of the city.
Speaker:In fact, if you ask me, I really think that walk from where Laban died to
Speaker:the treasury is probably the scariest part of Nephi's whole experience.
Speaker:Not walking into the city alone, but actually that distance.
Speaker:Because in that moment he has Nephi, or he has Laban's armor on, meaning like
Speaker:he's wearing evidence of the crime and he's going into a treasury and he's You
Speaker:know, pretending to be someone he is not.
Speaker:I just think that must have been terrifying, except for the fact that
Speaker:this is Nephi, and now he's heard the voice, the voice of the Lord,
Speaker:and now he knows for himself, and now he has seen Laban be given to him.
Speaker:In fact, go in the notes, you can learn more about how that plays out,
Speaker:but he has come to an understanding of why he is doing this work and
Speaker:what, what needs to happen next.
Speaker:So he's got certainty and miracles flow, you know, somehow, miraculously,
Speaker:he fits in the armor of Laban.
Speaker:If he's an exceedingly young kid and now can fit in the armor of Laban,
Speaker:I don't know what happened, like some Captain America type situation.
Speaker:I don't know, his voice changes like to the point where Laban's
Speaker:servant assumes this is Laban.
Speaker:It's, it's miraculous to me.
Speaker:But it's on the way out of the city that, that the spark
Speaker:lit up the brightest for me.
Speaker:This is what happens.
Speaker:So this is when Nephi invites Zoram to be a part of their family because basically
Speaker:Zoram puts them in a very delicate spot where Nephi was allowed to kill
Speaker:Laban because it was directed by God.
Speaker:You can go in the notes and learn more, but that was a clear direction.
Speaker:He is not directed to kill Zoram, but Zoram is a risk.
Speaker:If Zoram goes back to the city, people will know that they took the plates.
Speaker:People will know that Nephi killed Laban and people will come.
Speaker:And so he's a liability and Nephi is, I'm sure, trying to figure out
Speaker:what the Lord would have him do.
Speaker:What he chooses to do.
Speaker:is so powerful to me.
Speaker:This is in 32 through 34 of chapter 4.
Speaker:And it came to pass, that I spake with him, that if he would hearken unto my
Speaker:words, as the Lord liveth, and as I live, these are solemn covenants, solemn
Speaker:oaths, even so, that if he would hearken unto our words, we would spare his life.
Speaker:And I spake unto him with an oath, that he need not fear, that he would
Speaker:be a free man like unto us, if he would go down into the wilderness with us.
Speaker:And also I spake unto him, saying, surely the Lord hath
Speaker:commanded us to do this thing.
Speaker:Shall we be not diligent in keeping the commandments of the Lord?
Speaker:Therefore, if thou wilt go down into the wilderness to my father,
Speaker:thou shalt have place with us.
Speaker:What I love in this moment is Nephi doesn't just command him
Speaker:to come under threat of his life.
Speaker:He doesn't command him to come and tell him he's going to be a slave.
Speaker:He doesn't keep him in his current social station.
Speaker:What he does is he elevates Zoram and he says, if you come with
Speaker:us into the wilderness, you will have an equal place with us.
Speaker:This means he's going to be A son, a son like Nephi and Laman and Lemuel and Sam.
Speaker:He will have inheritance.
Speaker:He will have a name.
Speaker:He will have freedom.
Speaker:He is offering him all that he has.
Speaker:That's the piece I loved.
Speaker:Nephi, in this moment, invites Zoram.
Speaker:to all that Nephi has because he'll be a, a joined heir with Nephi
Speaker:under Lehi and, and that plays out.
Speaker:Zoram takes this opportunity and he goes forward.
Speaker:That's the part that caught my eye.
Speaker:So if you go in 35, you can see Zoram's choice.
Speaker:When Nephi chooses to handle him in this way and to teach
Speaker:him this way, Zoram responds.
Speaker:And it came to pass that Zoram did take courage that those
Speaker:are, that's the praise I love.
Speaker:He took courage at the words which I spake.
Speaker:Now Zoram was the name of the servant, and he promised that he would go down
Speaker:into the wilderness unto our father.
Speaker:Yet he also made an oath unto us that he would tarry with us from that time forth.
Speaker:And now they have peace.
Speaker:They don't have to be afraid anymore.
Speaker:They don't have to be watching their backs because the Lord
Speaker:has taken care of all things.
Speaker:As long as Nephi was willing to offer up all that he has in order for Zoram
Speaker:to come, then the Lord could preserve and protect and make them feel safe.
Speaker:And I I just thought there were so many, you know, types and
Speaker:shadows with the Savior there.
Speaker:Um, essentially, what Nephi knows that Zoram probably doesn't know yet is that
Speaker:there's no real alternative for Zoram.
Speaker:He goes back to the city and that city burns.
Speaker:You know, that city is destroyed.
Speaker:Nephi knows that firsthand now because he heard it from Lehi, and he had
Speaker:his own experience with the Savior.
Speaker:And he knows that if Zoram goes back, He'll be destroyed.
Speaker:And so in reality, this is his only option.
Speaker:But he gives Zoram the choice.
Speaker:He says, I want you to have all that I have.
Speaker:I will give you a covenant and a promise right here that you can
Speaker:have it if you will just Come.
Speaker:And when Zoram chooses to take courage, to hold on to those privileges,
Speaker:to grab hold of the opportunity in front of him, his whole life changes.
Speaker:Isn't that a beautiful metaphor for what the Savior offers?
Speaker:Jerusalem will burn.
Speaker:Every other alternative, every other choice that is not the
Speaker:Savior's plan ends in disaster.
Speaker:But he offers us this choice and says, I want to give you all that I have.
Speaker:I want you to come home with me and be a son just like I am.
Speaker:Come home.
Speaker:I can't make you do it, but I want you here.
Speaker:And when we choose to take that, when we choose to take hold of
Speaker:that courage, we change the whole trajectory of not just our lives,
Speaker:but everybody who comes after us.
Speaker:There's a great talk from Elder Cook all about Zoram.
Speaker:Well, a piece of it is all about Zoram.
Speaker:This is what he said.
Speaker:Zoram suffered many afflictions in his new life.
Speaker:Yet he pressed forward with faith.
Speaker:We have no indication that Zoram clung to his past or harbored
Speaker:resentment toward God or others.
Speaker:He was a true friend to Nephi, a prophet, and he and his seed dwelt in freedom
Speaker:and prosperity in the promised land.
Speaker:What a huge, what had been a huge obstacle in Zoram's path eventually
Speaker:led to rich blessings due to his faithfulness and willingness to
Speaker:keep, just keep going with faith.
Speaker:That's Zoram for me.
Speaker:He chose to take hold of those promises, to live up to these new privileges that
Speaker:were offered him, and because he does.
Speaker:His whole trajectory changes.
Speaker:Okay, time for spark number seven.
Speaker:I call this one Soraya's Boat Full of Fish, but it'll take me
Speaker:a second to help you understand why that's the title I gave it.
Speaker:Basically, what happens at the very end of this story is Soraya and Lehi
Speaker:have been waiting in the wilderness for their sons to come home.
Speaker:Remember, they had traveled at least a couple weeks into the wilderness
Speaker:when they, when Lehi got this revelation to send the sons back.
Speaker:So that means it's probably two, maybe even four weeks before the
Speaker:sons make it all the way back home.
Speaker:Possibly more.
Speaker:And that whole month, Soraya is worried.
Speaker:Lehi, I have no doubt, is as well.
Speaker:But remember, Lehi had a vision.
Speaker:He had an experience with the Lord for himself, and he knows some things.
Speaker:And Soraya, to me, represents those who don't.
Speaker:There's a lot of these examples in scripture where you have a couple
Speaker:who don't get the same revelation, at least not at the same time.
Speaker:So, for example, one of the reasons this sparks for me is when we were in
Speaker:the Old Testament and we were studying about Abraham and Isaac, I found
Speaker:myself always wondering, Oh, I wish we had Sarah's part of this story.
Speaker:You know, I wonder if she knew, I wonder if she understood what
Speaker:was happening when her husband and her son walked up Mount Moriah.
Speaker:You know, they had to take a big journey to get there, but I
Speaker:wondered how much she understood.
Speaker:And I found myself thinking, why does this happen?
Speaker:Why doesn't Soraya get the same kind of vision that Lehi got?
Speaker:It's her son's.
Speaker:Why doesn't she get to know?
Speaker:And I don't, I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker:I do know that it doesn't always go in that order.
Speaker:For example, there are times in scripture where The women get answers
Speaker:first, like with Mary and Joseph.
Speaker:Mary gets an understanding first and she gets to choose first.
Speaker:Same thing happens with Eve and Adam.
Speaker:She gets an understanding first and makes a choice and then
Speaker:gets to talk to Adam about it.
Speaker:Like, I don't think we should see any unfairness here.
Speaker:This is just how this particular story plays out in this marriage.
Speaker:What is powerful to me is what happens next.
Speaker:She basically struggles because, like Sarah of the Old Testament,
Speaker:Sariah, when she sent her sons, put all of her sons on the altar.
Speaker:She doesn't know how the Lord will save them.
Speaker:She doesn't have the same clear witness that her husband does.
Speaker:She didn't see it the same way.
Speaker:And so she has to trust in His word.
Speaker:And that's hard.
Speaker:It's hard, especially after time has passed and worry
Speaker:sets in and your mortal fears.
Speaker:Spin and so she's showing the repercussions of those that time that
Speaker:where she's worried and she's afraid and she doesn't know for certain and I just
Speaker:think we have to give a lot of sympathy to her because this isn't just her only sent
Speaker:these are all her sons that she's offering to the Lord in order to send them back.
Speaker:Because remember, Lehi's been hunted.
Speaker:He's hated.
Speaker:He's now left his position.
Speaker:They don't have the friends they used to have.
Speaker:They don't have the popularity they used to have.
Speaker:His sons would not be treated well, let alone the fact that they've got
Speaker:this gigantic journey to cross both ways that is totally treacherous.
Speaker:So in any way, she's bound to be afraid.
Speaker:And she voices that in the verses.
Speaker:So if you look in verses one and two of chapter five, it says this.
Speaker:And it came to pass, that after we had come down into the wilderness
Speaker:unto our father, behold, he was filled with joy, and also my mother,
Speaker:Saria, was exceedingly glad, for she had truly mourned because of us.
Speaker:For she had supposed that we had perished in the wilderness, and she had also
Speaker:complained against my father, telling him that he was a visionary man, saying,
Speaker:Behold, thou hast led us forth from the land of our inheritance, and my sons are
Speaker:no more, and we perish in the wilderness.
Speaker:I mean, that's as dark as it gets for a mother, right?
Speaker:That you think you've lost all your kids and you have no hope of making it,
Speaker:the two of you out in the wilderness together, and you're just despondent.
Speaker:That's where she is.
Speaker:What I love is how Lehi reacts, because in marriage, this happens all the time.
Speaker:One of us is going to be strong and steadfast, and one of us is
Speaker:wavering, and we strengthen each other, and we take turns throughout
Speaker:our marriage on where we are.
Speaker:And in this moment, Lehi comforts, but he doesn't sugarcoat.
Speaker:He says, I know this calling is hard.
Speaker:I know it requires big things of us.
Speaker:To me, just between you and me, this felt a lot like some of the conversations
Speaker:Jason and I had had when he was serving as bishop, because it's a hard isolating
Speaker:calling at times for it was for me and there we have a lot of conversations
Speaker:where it's like i know this is hard and it's putting a lot of weight on your
Speaker:shoulders and i'm he basically said like this is just what the lord's asked me
Speaker:to do we got to do this together and we rally and that's what you see lehi
Speaker:do with soraya they rally together lehi chooses to comfort her rather than to be
Speaker:offended by her And I felt like Jason did that really well in our marriage, too.
Speaker:This is in 6.
Speaker:And it had come to pass that my father spake unto her, saying, I
Speaker:know that I am a visionary man.
Speaker:For if I had not seen the things of God in a vision, that I should
Speaker:have not known the goodness of God, but had tarried at Jerusalem,
Speaker:and had perished with my brethren.
Speaker:But behold, I have obtained a land of promise, in the which things I do rejoice.
Speaker:Yea, I know that the Lord will deliver my sons out of the hands of Laban, and bring
Speaker:them down again unto us in the wilderness.
Speaker:This is his looking far off.
Speaker:They're not in the land of promise yet.
Speaker:He has no idea how they're going to get to the land of promise.
Speaker:It's going to be years and years until they get there.
Speaker:And this is him saying, no, I can see it.
Speaker:Honey, I can even taste it.
Speaker:You know, like he knows for a certainty and he knows she doesn't know.
Speaker:So he's helping her see.
Speaker:I think this is what marriage is all about.
Speaker:It's, it's helping each other see the promises of far
Speaker:off and hold tight to them.
Speaker:And she chooses in this moment to lean in to his promises.
Speaker:But what I love is when her boys come home.
Speaker:Because then she knows.
Speaker:She no longer just has to believe in the words of the prophet.
Speaker:She has the evidence in front of her that he's a prophet.
Speaker:Because her boys, against all odds, and Laban's forces and
Speaker:everything else, come home.
Speaker:And can you imagine what this feels like to her?
Speaker:She Sees all four of them come home safely and a bonus son and
Speaker:she feels assured in those moments.
Speaker:It reminded me of the New Testament.
Speaker:This was really interesting.
Speaker:You can go to learn more about my thought process here, but in the New Testament,
Speaker:in almost all the Gospels, maybe even all of them, I can't remember, there's this
Speaker:one miracle that's cited over and over and over again, and it's that Peter's
Speaker:mother in law was healed by the Savior.
Speaker:And I found myself, when we were in the New Testament, wondering why
Speaker:that's such a noteworthy miracle.
Speaker:There's very few miracles that are mentioned in all the Gospels,
Speaker:or the majority of the Gospels.
Speaker:So I found myself thinking like, What is it about Peter's mother
Speaker:in law that's such a big deal?
Speaker:And it wasn't until he was in Sunday school in our ward.
Speaker:They were teaching that lesson.
Speaker:Um.
Speaker:And an understanding came.
Speaker:He was the teacher who I love.
Speaker:He was asking about our personal experiences, about
Speaker:when miracles are just for us.
Speaker:And it sparked this understanding in me of what if this miracle
Speaker:was her boat full of fish?
Speaker:I don't know Peter's wife's name.
Speaker:But what if it was her boat full of fish moment?
Speaker:She didn't get to see the boat full of fish.
Speaker:She didn't get to walk on the water.
Speaker:She probably didn't get to follow the Savior around Galilee.
Speaker:She had other roles and responsibilities that were, she was needed for.
Speaker:But she needed to know for herself.
Speaker:And so I feel like when the Savior Himself probably comes to her home and heals
Speaker:her home, it's her boat full of fish.
Speaker:She knows.
Speaker:And she can then send her husband out to do whatever the Lord needs him to
Speaker:do, because she knows for herself.
Speaker:To me, when her sons, Soraya's sons, you know, Cross that
Speaker:crest and head into their camp.
Speaker:It's her boat full of fish.
Speaker:She knows.
Speaker:She knows for a certainty.
Speaker:Not just that God loves her and will watch out for her family, but that her
Speaker:husband is indeed a prophet and that his work is necessary and called by God.
Speaker:That is a profound gift that the Lord gives her when this moment happens.
Speaker:In fact, I love the way it's described.
Speaker:So we look at 7 and 8.
Speaker:And when we had returned to the tent of my father, behold, their joy was
Speaker:full, and my mother was comforted.
Speaker:And she spake, saying, Now I know of a surety that the Lord hath commanded my
Speaker:husband to flee into the wilderness.
Speaker:Yea, I also know of a surety that the Lord hath protected my sons,
Speaker:and delivered them out of the hands of Laban, and given them the power
Speaker:whereby they could accomplish the thing which the Lord hath commanded them.
Speaker:And after this manner of language did she speak.
Speaker:This is a matriarch to me.
Speaker:She is leading her family by showing her vulnerability and saying,
Speaker:Here's what I know for certain, and let me tell you how I know it.
Speaker:This is a testimony that reverberates through generations because of
Speaker:how she chose to phrase this.
Speaker:She knows of a surety now.
Speaker:She believed before and now she knows.
Speaker:And there is something so powerful about a mother who knows.
Speaker:And I just think You can't, you can't combat that kind of testimony, and she's
Speaker:gonna need to lean on it again and again.
Speaker:And imagine how this felt to Lehi, to hear his wife testify
Speaker:about him being a prophet of God.
Speaker:Because now he knows, now their marriage can like, progress faster.
Speaker:In fact, I love what they do next.
Speaker:So if you look at 9, And it came to pass that they did rejoice exceedingly.
Speaker:They, the couple, rejoiced exceedingly.
Speaker:And did offer sacrifice and burnt offerings unto the Lord.
Speaker:And they gave thanks unto the God of Israel.
Speaker:Together, they They are united because they needed each other.
Speaker:They will always need each other.
Speaker:And I love that in this new setting, you know, where they're out in the
Speaker:wilderness and they only have a tent, you know, another translation of tent
Speaker:is tabernacle, they have created a holy place where they can worship together.
Speaker:There's no court of the women, there's no boundaries or bricks
Speaker:or places to keep them apart.
Speaker:They are together in their worship.
Speaker:I don't know what that looks like and I'm not pretending I do, but they're together.
Speaker:when they offer these sacrifices to the Lord.
Speaker:And that, to me, is one of the sweetest parts of being pushed into the wilderness.
Speaker:Because in those wilderness moments, especially in your
Speaker:marriage, you come close.
Speaker:Come close to each other, and you come close to God.
Speaker:And that gives them the power they need to last.
Speaker:There's a great talk from Elder Christofferson in this week's notes.
Speaker:You can find it.
Speaker:It's from April 2015.
Speaker:He was talking about marriage This is one of the parts I really liked.
Speaker:He says each individual carries the divine image, but it is in It is in
Speaker:the matrimonial union of male and female as one that we attain perhaps
Speaker:the most complete meaning of our having been made In the image of God male
Speaker:and female neither we nor any other mortal can alter this divine order of
Speaker:matrimony It is not a human invention.
Speaker:Such marriage is indeed from above, from God, and it is as much
Speaker:a part of the plan of happiness as the fall and the atonement.
Speaker:I just thought that was like a power packed statement of the value of marriage.
Speaker:And I love that Lehi and Sariah evidence it in this chapter.
Speaker:As vulnerable and weak and hard as it was, they evidence the power of
Speaker:marriage and why it's ordained of God.
Speaker:I just loved chapter 5.
Speaker:Time for the question portion of the insights video.
Speaker:So this is my hope is just to get ideas flowing in your mind.
Speaker:And I think good questions prompt the spirit because you'll get
Speaker:your own insights and your own understandings that are filtered
Speaker:through your life experiences.
Speaker:And those are so much better than just hearing mine.
Speaker:So I'm just hoping to plan some ideas and start some really good conversations.
Speaker:So here's question number one.
Speaker:So first off, this comes from First Nephi one.
Speaker:Verse one, the verse you probably have memorized.
Speaker:It talks all about Nephi having goodly parents.
Speaker:And I've always thought I knew what that phrase meant.
Speaker:It's one of those phrases.
Speaker:I just assumed they were nice people.
Speaker:And if you read in the verses, you can kind of see that they
Speaker:gave him a good education.
Speaker:He knew languages and other things.
Speaker:But I guess my question is after this week of study.
Speaker:What else do you think goodly parents means?
Speaker:He writes this 30 plus years after this event occurs.
Speaker:And who knows how many years?
Speaker:I haven't done the math to figure out since Lehi passed away.
Speaker:What does he mean by goodly parents based on what you read this week?
Speaker:Where do you see goodliness in Lehi and Sariah?
Speaker:individually and together as a married couple.
Speaker:I'd love to hear your answers.
Speaker:Second question.
Speaker:This one comes from that same chapter, but verse 20, this is where you're going
Speaker:to hear how Lehi was cast out, how they mocked him and they tried to get rid of
Speaker:him the same way they did other prophets.
Speaker:And then you hear this little addition at the end of the verse.
Speaker:It says, But behold, I, Nephi, will show unto you that the tender
Speaker:mercies of the Lord are over all those whom he hath chosen because
Speaker:of their faith, to make them mighty, even unto the power of deliverance.
Speaker:So my question here is, what are the tender mercies?
Speaker:You know, there's that great talk from 2005, I think from Elder Bednar,
Speaker:where he talks all about what tender mercies are, but what ones did you
Speaker:specifically see this week in their story?
Speaker:And how is it power of deliverance?
Speaker:You know, it seems like the Lord Delivered the plates.
Speaker:The Lord delivered the sons.
Speaker:The Lord did all those things.
Speaker:How is he giving the power of deliverance to this family by their faith?
Speaker:That's what I want to know.
Speaker:And if you're up for a bonus question, I think it's really interesting
Speaker:how he says they're unto all.
Speaker:I really think.
Speaker:The blessings and the power that God gives us with our obedience spills over.
Speaker:I don't think it just blesses us, I think it spills over to all sorts
Speaker:of people who are in our sphere.
Speaker:I think it's the Doctrine and Covenants that talks about this, where he causes
Speaker:the light to shine on the good and the evil, you know, that's the Lord's
Speaker:way, so I guess, I wonder, as a bonus question, where do you see that happening
Speaker:with this family, especially this week?
Speaker:Okay, third question.
Speaker:This is all about the tent situation.
Speaker:So the very fact that they have to go out into the wilderness, they have to dwell in
Speaker:a tent and change their whole lifestyle.
Speaker:I thought it was really interesting to read this week's study
Speaker:alongside Elder Stevenson's talk.
Speaker:So he was trying to teach us how to have more holy experiences, more, more
Speaker:revelation, more understandings, more appreciation of our spiritual gifts.
Speaker:And he gave us these four tips.
Speaker:So he says you should stand in holy places, stand with holy people.
Speaker:Testify of holy truths and listen to the Holy Spirit.
Speaker:And I thought it was really interesting to read these verses with that lens.
Speaker:In fact, you might even want to go and mark up your scriptures to show where you
Speaker:see those things blessing this family.
Speaker:Almost as a reinforcement from what the apostle taught us at conference.
Speaker:My question here is, how do you see these ideas, these four things?
Speaker:exemplified in Lehi's family's story, especially this week.
Speaker:Tell me what you have in your mind.
Speaker:Okay, the next one.
Speaker:This comes from First Nephi chapter 2, verse 22.
Speaker:This is where the Lord has come to Nephi, who is the youngest brother,
Speaker:and he tells him what to expect.
Speaker:That his father was a true prophet, that he's going to be a ruler
Speaker:and a teacher over his brothers.
Speaker:Even the fact that, you know, if they choose the right, then there will be
Speaker:Blessings that come to his posterity and the posterities of his brother, brothers.
Speaker:And I thought it was interesting that ruler and a teacher combination.
Speaker:I guess I want to know what you think the difference is between
Speaker:being a ruler and a teacher.
Speaker:And then also, why are they together?
Speaker:Why does Nephi need to be both of those things?
Speaker:I have some thoughts and ideas.
Speaker:You can read some of those in the notes, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Speaker:What is a ruler?
Speaker:What is a teacher?
Speaker:What's the difference?
Speaker:And why are they often given as a role together?
Speaker:Most leadership callings.
Speaker:I mean both, and I'm curious to know why.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Last question.
Speaker:So, after expressing gratitude and making sacrifices, Lehi
Speaker:and Nephi study the scriptures.
Speaker:We didn't get to this part.
Speaker:It's at the very end of chapter five, but they study those brass plates.
Speaker:I do love that they give sacrifices first before they even crack open the
Speaker:plates, you know, before they even decide what's in there, they express
Speaker:profound gratitude that they've been kept safe and that they have this record.
Speaker:And then they study, you know, this father and son pour over these plates
Speaker:and learn about their genealogy.
Speaker:They learn about the laws and the ordinances and, you know, even
Speaker:prophecies of current prophets like Jeremiah, they're in these plates.
Speaker:And I guess my question is, well, you see what happens with.
Speaker:with Lehi in this moment.
Speaker:One of my favorite moments in this is when he reads about his family line.
Speaker:He learns that he is a descendant of Joseph, like Joseph in Egypt, Joseph,
Speaker:you know, Pharaoh's court, Joseph.
Speaker:What's powerful to me about that connection is, it's even in the
Speaker:verses, Lehi himself kind of describes this, or I guess Nephi, in Lehi's
Speaker:words, says basically that This is someone who had to leave his family.
Speaker:In fact, he was pushed out of his family and sold, you know, similar
Speaker:to Lehi who was driven out of his city and threatened with death.
Speaker:He leaves in order to save his family, not just like his, you
Speaker:know, big group of brothers, but all the family that comes later.
Speaker:And don't you think that would have been so comforting to Lehi to read that
Speaker:that was his family line that somebody else in his family line had to do.
Speaker:Just what Leah has been asked to do.
Speaker:And what I love about these verses is The Spirit pours in.
Speaker:As soon as Lehi knows his family story and he understands who he is, the
Speaker:Spirit pours in and prophecy comes out.
Speaker:I just think it's awesome to see.
Speaker:This is the reason we do family history, you guys.
Speaker:I feel like not just that we know the stories of our ancestors and
Speaker:know who their names, but that we perform ordinances so that we are
Speaker:tied together, sealed forever.
Speaker:So I guess my question is, when have you seen that happen?
Speaker:How does studying your history pour out blessings?
Speaker:When have you seen the Spirit?
Speaker:Surge into your life because family history has been a part whether it's
Speaker:in finding names and research or in the temple itself Tell me when that has
Speaker:happened for you, and I would love to hear your stories We're gonna get to the
Speaker:creative video here in just a second, but before we wrap up, I just wanted
Speaker:to draw your eyes to one last verse.
Speaker:In fact, the very end of the very last verse is, this is in the end of chapter 5
Speaker:when Nephi talks about these brass plates being such a blessing to their children.
Speaker:That will be something that will be passed on and it will be a blessing to them.
Speaker:What I loved about it is, Nephi doesn't have children at this point in time.
Speaker:In fact, he doesn't even know how he's gonna have a wife yet.
Speaker:I guess when he writes the records, he does, but at this point in time,
Speaker:Those are promises afar off still.
Speaker:He doesn't know how that's going to come about.
Speaker:But he chooses to believe.
Speaker:He chooses to see what is not there and to trust.
Speaker:I think that's the whole message of not just this week's study, but all
Speaker:the weeks of the Book of Mormon.
Speaker:The reason I think I need to be in these verses and to really study
Speaker:and search them is because it helps me see Promises are far off.
Speaker:It helps me live as though those promises are fulfilled now, you know, I
Speaker:think I choose to be like Nephi and to say, I don't have those promises yet.
Speaker:He doesn't have a wife.
Speaker:He doesn't have kids yet, but he chooses to live as though he does because he knows
Speaker:the promises of God are always fulfilled.
Speaker:It's one of my favorite messages of the Book of Mormon.
Speaker:In fact, you hear it resounding out in Alma.
Speaker:We'll get to these chapters, but I love Alma 37, 17, for he will fulfill all his
Speaker:promises, which he shall make unto you.
Speaker:For he has fulfilled his promises which he has made unto our fathers.
Speaker:The Book of Mormon is a witness of the promises fulfilled to our fathers.
Speaker:It is also a witness of the promises that will be fulfilled to us, either
Speaker:in this life or the life to come.