Your daily Google News. I'm Kassam and I'm here with Michael Naline. Michael, always a pleasure mate. It's great to be back. I love speaking to you. The Google ads, God. I'm gonna quote you on that forever. This is our second interview, so that means that people liked you and we could tolerate each other's presence. no, like, last time I was actually quite surprised. I thought I actually had to listen back last time. I'm like, oh, we actually spoke about some good stuff. And then the response I actually got from people, I just realized I'm getting a lot of glare in my glasses. I got hundreds of people adding me on LinkedIn just from that interview. Had like really positive response. So I think like people enjoyed it. And I just wanna make sure that when we have our chat today, we just kind of like really throw Adam bottom of like value to them. So get ready guys. This is gonna be good. Yeah. So the last video, if you didn't see it check it out. I'll make sure to include it in the description of this video. That one had 3,100 views. Mm-hmm. Which is a lot for my channel. Like, I think if I get a thousand views on a video, I know that I did something right. So that one obviously popped off pretty well. I did promote it a bit. I just posted a few times on LinkedIn and on Instagram, so I think I got a bit of you were most audience. Yeah, my audience to have a look at it, mate. but I'll, say that you've got a pretty big channel now. You're nearly a. 10 K, which is, yeah, we're about to fucking amazing. Good work, man. I mean, for a niche like ours, that's not a, I didn't know if we would quite make it that far, but I'm pretty happy about it. Right. You're posting regularly, you're posting like really high quality. In terms of content videos, like I know I watch them regularly. All the other Google ADSD specialists always come to your videos for like, It's the most up-to-date stuff because a lot of the stuff in the market now being at trainings is very antiquated because it's based on stuff that was working a year ago, two years ago, and like a lot of those gurus aren't actually up to date or still running an agency. So they're still talking about tactics and strategies from like five or 10 years ago, which. To an extent kind of work. But if you're up against killers like you and me, you've got, yeah, you fucked. Sorry about my language. That's kinda the thing too, is like it really got to a point to where, I mean, you used to be able to run your own Google ads two years ago for sure. Mm-hmm. And then, it started to just narrow down and narrow down and narrow down. And then I look at what's involved from a strategy perspective. technical implementation, put it aside, so, Just from a strategy perspective, I think it's damn near impossible. And I've always been afraid to say that because I own an agency, so I never wanted to tell people like, oh, you can't do this yourself. I actually wanted to be the opposite. I wanted to say, Hey, you can do this yourself. Here's how. Mm-hmm. And then once you get past a certain point, come hire me. But now I'm kind of like, I don't even think you should do this yourself. Right? Like, this is too hard. I was, I was reflecting on this yesterday just because of especially the changes in the market. And I actually took a note. I just wanna say like, Google Ads has an extremely low margin for error, right? And is unforgiving, like you make one small change, you've spent thousands of dollars. And especially like on some of the clients that you and I manage, like bigger clients, you make a small keyword issue like change the match for some reason, or the settings off. You could spend five, 10 K on nothing. And if you're not on that like a hawk or you don't have like tracking or dashboards to really be on top of that. You cooked and like, I sent you a few ideas of things we could chat about. Like I hit up a few mates. Agency owners, marketing managers before this, and most of 'em were saying like, what are the biggest mistakes you see in an account? now it's like, well, everything, because if you're not like a really sophisticated Google Ads advertiser, you are not gonna know all the small things and all the small things that, the stuff that you talk about or the stuff that, you know, our agencies actually implement. Like, people go, oh, what are the things I need to do? And it's like, dude, it's asking a surgeon like, what do you need to do? It's like, there's so many small things that, everyone's looking for the big thing, but there's like a hundred small things and you mess one up, and that's. Everything gone. So like there is such a low margin for error I've noticed, which I'm presuming you agree with as well. I was on a sales call this morning with a gal. Hopefully she never watches this video because I flat out turned down her work. I don't end up on a lot of those calls, but this one Mike, who runs our, customer intake, he was kind of on the fence and he was like, Hey man, can you just, come up, give a heart check? And the first thing she says to me, or one of the first things is, Hey, if I hire you, I wanna know that you're not gonna make any mistakes. And I was like, no, I'm gonna make all the mistakes. I'm just gonna make 'em more efficiently than you are. but those folks that really wanna know like, oh, you're gonna do this perfectly the first time. No, that's not how Google ads works. Like, I'm not gonna make technical errors, but we don't know until we test. no matter how many times I say that I mean, I feel like I'm a broken record, you know, like, oh, you have to test. There's no guarantees, whatever. But then I end up on the phone with someone who's like, oh, I've watched all your videos. How long is this gonna take? And I'm like, well clearly you haven't watched any of my videos cuz I have no idea. there's an issue there that if you really could do that, you'd be a billionaire. You'd have every climber world, and you've said that so many times, I'd laughing and you'd be like, I knew that I'd be a much wealthier human. I wouldn't be like, and you'd be running a business that wasn't advertising. But the other, like, the other part of that is, is people are being marketed with like the proven strategy, this and this. Like everything's gonna work. So then when actually come to an expert and an industry leader like yourself, They expect to get that. Like you to be like, yeah, it's gonna work. But like then you're honest with them. It's like going to like the top surgeons, I keep saying surgeons cuz it's relevant and like you've got like a horrible something basically with surgery. And then they would never say to be surgery in rocket science. Yeah. Like they would never say to you, yeah, yeah, this will be a hundred percent work, a hundred percent cure. They know there's like liabilities that come with that. not even from a marketing perspective, but just like a legal perspective like. There's no way you can ever guarantee it. You can increase the odds and it's just like, reducing the downside, but there's no guarantee. Cuz if there was, you and I would be billionaires on a boat laughing a lot. Yeah, I do. I'd just be buying businesses and running Google ads for which we also do we've gotten good enough to where it's like, all right, let's go play the equity game.