Foreign welcome back to the fantasy football game plan.
Speaker AThe NFC west is loaded with storylines this year.
Speaker AThe 49ers are hoping Salah can fix the defense that gave up 25 points a game last year.
Speaker AAnd they've got big questions with the health of Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker AMaybe I just have those big questions and how that offense can run without him if needed.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BMeanwhile, we got the Seahawks bringing in new offensive coordinator with Clint Kubiak and we got the Cardinals basically just running it back and having no offensive draft players drafted players at all.
Speaker BAnd then we got the Rams trying to make it work.
Speaker BWe'll see if Stafford, he's back at practice, but can they actually make that work with an aging crew with Kyron and Devonte Adams?
Speaker AYeah, we'll hit all four teams and all of their Vegas lines and the fantasy names that you can count on from the NFC west before we kick this division off.
Speaker ALet's go ahead and talk about some of the news that's been coming out this week.
Speaker BYeah, we got a couple of quarterbacks named the starter.
Speaker BSo Daniel Jones for the Colts and then we got Joe Flacco for the Browns.
Speaker BHow does that kind of shape your evaluations of those options on those teams?
Speaker BDoes it help it?
Speaker BDoes it hurt it?
Speaker AI've seen nothing but grumbling over the Daniel Jones selection.
Speaker AI don't get it.
Speaker AWe've talked about this and I don't understand why they're not going with Anthony Richardson other than maybe they want to let him grow a little bit.
Speaker AI mean, he's 23 years old.
Speaker AYou got any insights?
Speaker BI think separating the Colts fan from the like fantasy perspective.
Speaker BFrom the fantasy perspective, I think it makes Josh Downs a little bit more interesting and I think it gives a little bit more consistency to Tyler Warren too, too.
Speaker BAs an every week option.
Speaker BAlso for the, for Flacco, I think it does make like David and Joku very interesting as like a sleeper tight end who's not really being drafted that highly.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ABoth of these quarterback choices make it a dependable medium option for the rest of the fantasy group.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker ADoesn't make me excited, but I guess you can depend on mediocre.
Speaker BYeah, maybe.
Speaker BStill not games you want to tune in for but can help your roster in a pinch.
Speaker AYeah, I guess so.
Speaker BAlso, yeah, last episode we went through the NFC east and we briefly mentioned Bill and I disregard them and then not a day later we found out he might be the guy it's looking like.
Speaker BI mean, on the depth chart officially, he's still the third string behind Echler and Chris Rodriguez, but they have kind of told Brian Robinson Jr. To pack his bags and it doesn't seem like he's going to be playing that team.
Speaker BThe Commanders currently don't have their leading wide receiver or leading rusher from last year.
Speaker BSo it's kind of.
Speaker BKind of nebulous right now of what the Commanders are doing.
Speaker AIt's crazy.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI have no idea what's going on in this locker room because they don't think that they need Brian Robinson Jr. Or Terry McLaurin.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think Bill or Jakori Crosky.
Speaker BMerit.
Speaker ABill.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHe's getting a lot of excitement over right now, but he is still a seventh round rookie.
Speaker BThat is still going to be a committee backfield and we still have Jaden Daniel scrambling.
Speaker BI'm seeing him fly up draft boards right now.
Speaker BSome people are really reaching for him.
Speaker BI personally am fine taking him if he slides back and I have a draft where no one's really jumping on him and maybe I can get them later in like the 12th or 13th and get some high upside, but I think he's being overblown right now still, personally, just for what that role is.
Speaker ASo who's in the market for running back?
Speaker AWhere could Brian Robinson Jr. End up down in Texas?
Speaker BSeems like the best two options, either for the Cowboys or the Texans.
Speaker BMixon's injury is still scary.
Speaker BThe fact that we really aren't hearing anything and it's maybe he'll be ready for the season, but Nick Chuck Chubb's being treated like the starter and Nick Chubb is older and he's had some significant injuries.
Speaker BThey could bring him in.
Speaker BI can't imagine the asking price for Brian Robinson is too high.
Speaker BAnd then the Cowboys.
Speaker BHe's got to be an upgrade over Javante Williams in his current form.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AAnd you can just never have too many running backs, it seems.
Speaker AEspecially talented running backs.
Speaker AWith his experience, they can't be paying him much.
Speaker AI just don't understand why they're not going to keep him for this year.
Speaker AThere's got to be more to this story and more going on in that locker room than anyone knows.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BEspecially with how quick everything occurred.
Speaker BIt'll be interesting once we get the full story.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AWe won't go back into the whole Colts fan situation and how we're going to have to deal with Daniel Jones, but that'll make me grumble.
Speaker BNo, let's move on to some positive NFC West.
Speaker BThis is a fun division to talk about.
Speaker AIt is a fun division.
Speaker AIt didn't end that fun last year.
Speaker ABut one of the things that makes this division probably going to have a few more on in the win column is they get to play the entire AFC South.
Speaker AAll these teams play the entire AFC south team.
Speaker ASo they might just rack up four wins against the AFC south for each team here.
Speaker AWe don't have a whole lot going on that's positive in the AFC south other than I'd say Jacksonville, maybe the Texans.
Speaker AAll right, so let's kick it off with the 49ers.
Speaker A49ers line is 10 and a half.
Speaker AThey finished last year at 6 and 11.
Speaker AWe're expecting this team makes a pretty good bounce from last year.
Speaker AHow do you feel about that?
Speaker ATen and a half?
Speaker BYeah, they've been alternating every other year of either being a contender or being seriously hurt.
Speaker BAnd last year they lost a lot of their key contributors.
Speaker BI mean CMC was the main storyline.
Speaker BBut then you also had IUK almost gone for the entire season.
Speaker BDebo got pneumonia, Ricky Piersol was shot.
Speaker BThey lost their left tackle Trent Williams and they had some like defensive injuries too.
Speaker BSo that's kind of why I think they can bounce back.
Speaker BAnd especially they have the easiest projected strength to schedule.
Speaker BI am pretty bullish on this team.
Speaker BI think they can hit that over.
Speaker AI think they can hit this over as well.
Speaker ANot only did they have all of those injuries that made this a disaster of who are we going to put on the field last year, but six of their 11 losses were by less than a touchdown.
Speaker ASo if you can convert those six and then make the other games a little bit closer, you're well over your ten and a half wins.
Speaker AThey brought back Robert Sala as their defensive coordinator and I'm sure he's.
Speaker AI don't know if he's glad to be back, but he was the jets head coach and that whole disaster show.
Speaker ASo I expect the defense to be improved.
Speaker AIt was very good under Salah before he left and went to the jets.
Speaker BAnd we saw how the jets defense, how much worse it got in the second half of the season once he was fired.
Speaker BI think he was incorrectly blamed for a lot of the other problems on that team.
Speaker BSo I think he will improve the defensive side and lead to some consistency.
Speaker AI do too.
Speaker AAnd that's really the only coaching change here.
Speaker ALet's just before we jump into their personnel, let's talk about the elephant in the room and that's Christian McCaffrey's health.
Speaker AHow do you feeling about McCaffrey are you drafting him?
Speaker BI have been drafting him around cost.
Speaker BI've been mixing him in just because his upside, when we go into week one, he's probably going to be projected as the number one or number two running back right there with Saquon.
Speaker BIf he's fully healthy, we know Shanahan's going to use him.
Speaker BEven when he got back the first week, even though he missed the first 10 weeks, like Shanahan gave him the entire workload, even though he had bilateral Achilles tendinitis.
Speaker ASo you're not envisioning any kind of share situation where they wise up a little bit and go, maybe we ought to save him for when we really need him and we should use some of our other running backs a little bit more?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BThat's just not how Shanahan's ever operated.
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BYou are going to do everything and we are going to ride it until the wheels fall off kind of system.
Speaker BSo I think he is going to get that workload.
Speaker AI'm not convinced of it.
Speaker AI'm also not convinced he's healthy.
Speaker AI keep looking for videos and other than the July 18th one where they wanted to show us specifically that he was running, I haven't been able to find anything.
Speaker AI'm not really sure what's going on back here.
Speaker AAnd we know that they love to keep secrets.
Speaker AWe found that out last year.
Speaker BOne thing I wanted to point out on just how effective CMC is, Winnie, is there is I was comparing their 2023 personnel data versus 2024, and when they were in 11 personnel, which is their most common package, their EPA per rush in 2023 was about.02.
Speaker BSo every time they ran the ball, it was expected they were adding.02 points to their team.
Speaker BThis year it was negative 0.01.
Speaker BSo just having CMC, okay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIn 2024.2.
Speaker BNot it was 0.2.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo that's.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAlmost a quarter of a point swing on every rush attempt for just having CMC in the game.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat's crazy.
Speaker AI still don't think he can do it, but let's.
Speaker AOkay, so we've broke open the personnel.
Speaker ALet's talk about the personnel.
Speaker ALet's do the one minute review of what this means.
Speaker BSo personnel, we're talking the first number is always the amount of running backs and the second number is always the amount of tight ends.
Speaker BThe most common package is 11 personnel.
Speaker BWe see that consistent with the 49ers, they're a little under league average.
Speaker BThey Bring in a fullback.
Speaker BYou know Kyle Juszczyk is about one of the only commonly named fullbacks in the NFL and that is shown in the data of about a third of their plays.
Speaker BThey're bringing a second running back or that fullback position in and really it just shows that how much of an outlet because not only was the rush improved from having cmc, but the pass was also improved just having that outlet.
Speaker BThis team likes to spread the ball and have CMC be that outlet for Purdy.
Speaker BSo I think it will help as long as they can get consistent play.
Speaker AThat's going to be key, the consistent play and not being hurt all the time.
Speaker ALet's talk about a couple more injuries on this team.
Speaker ABrandon Aiyuk towards ACL last year and now it's looking like he's going to miss about a third of the season.
Speaker AThey're targeting a week's six comeback but it could push even later than that.
Speaker AJuwan Jennings holding out, holding out, calf strain, whichever you want to call it.
Speaker AHe'd like a new contract and he's hurt so he's missing time.
Speaker ADebo's gone.
Speaker AKittle is always banged up, but he hangs in there and plays anyway.
Speaker AAnd then I guess we're down to Ricky Parasol.
Speaker AAre you drafting Piersall?
Speaker BI Ricky Pearsall is one of my highest drafted players right now.
Speaker BHe is one I'm most excited for and I think there's a lot of value just because people don't really think of him as a breakout candidate for what he produced last year.
Speaker BBut just as a quick reminder, he just had a brief flash at the end of last season.
Speaker BHe was wide receiver 8 and wide receiver 14 in the last two weeks of the regular season.
Speaker BBut it took him a while to ramp up.
Speaker BNot only was he a rookie, but he also got shot in the chest.
Speaker BSo he got shot in the chest last off season, had to work back in and then was playing football at the end of the year and did actually produce.
Speaker BAnd I think especially with young, talented first round wide receivers, I want to buy that flash.
Speaker BAnd he has such a golden opportunity with all of these injuries.
Speaker BHe's the only one at practice.
Speaker BThat's their day in and day out.
Speaker BWith Purdy getting these reps. Yeah.
Speaker AThat they had last year, they did bring in quite a bit of new talent to this team.
Speaker ASo two running backs, two wide receivers and a quarterback were drafted by this team.
Speaker AAny interest there?
Speaker AI think the top draft prospect was Jordan James.
Speaker ARunning back Jordan James, but he is recovering from a broken Finger.
Speaker AIsaiah Girondo returned to practice this week and we think he's going to be the backup but Jordan James has a chance there.
Speaker BYeah, Jordan James, he was fun prospect but I think Garendo's still locked in the back out backfield as the backup right now, but especially because he had that broken finger so he's not even there.
Speaker BThis is a crucial time for rookies to be integrated into that offense.
Speaker BBut we see Shanahan first off these running backs.
Speaker BIf you go five deep, they're all ganged up behind cmc.
Speaker BHe's the only one like listed healthy on their depth chart which is weird.
Speaker BSo we might see some of these rookies thrown in.
Speaker BI feel like we're.
Speaker BThey're 49ers are notorious for just bringing guys off the street and they produce in this system.
Speaker BSo Jordan James especially is a fun like waiver wire name.
Speaker BAs we get deep into the season.
Speaker AIs Shanahan picking up the phone calling Washington right now going probably Christian McCaffrey is the healthiest one we've got.
Speaker AMaybe we ought to get somebody else.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo let's go through your target share chart.
Speaker BI do have.
Speaker BI am bullish on Pearsall.
Speaker BI think he is going to be the number one option for this team and we just see so much consistent value from first round wide receivers.
Speaker BA lot of people didn't think he was a first round talent last year but this team was all in on him and I think given a healthy off season, given that chemistry and we saw his potential last year, if he was able to do it in those bad conditions last year and still be a top 12 wide receiver on some weeks then I think he could do it a lot more consistent basis.
Speaker BAnd then George Kittle just has his role cut out.
Speaker BI think he is a great option, especially you're not having to spend a second or third round pick like you are with McBride or Bowers.
Speaker BHe's a little deeper in the draft, especially for his role.
Speaker AYeah, I can go with all that.
Speaker AWhat happens if McCaffrey isn't playing?
Speaker AAre you still on the over?
Speaker BI think they'll find ways to do it.
Speaker BI like the defense a lot better and I really like Purdy too.
Speaker BI think this passing game is going to be a little bit more exciting.
Speaker BThe one like free agent we didn't Talk about was DeMarcus Robinson is coming over from the Rams and he's just another contributor.
Speaker BLike he is going to help Purdy.
Speaker BHe's going to help stabilize this offense and help them produce on a consistent basis even if CMC isn't here.
Speaker AHopefully they will.
Speaker AWhen with McCaffrey out, he came in, he left again.
Speaker AAnd then Garendo getting hurt last year and all of the injuries in week 16 of last year.
Speaker ABrock Purdy was their lead rusher for the game with 26 yards.
Speaker AThey can't have games like that.
Speaker AThey've got to have somebody that can actually run the ball.
Speaker ABesides Brock Purdy.
Speaker AThat was a game to Miami too.
Speaker BBut in the off season right now everyone's looking good.
Speaker BWe'll see if Juwan Jennings signs.
Speaker BHe's kind of deserves more money for his role.
Speaker BThey're going to ask of him, especially with IUK missing time.
Speaker BI don't think.
Speaker BI haven't been taking IUK anywhere.
Speaker BHave you?
Speaker AI haven't either.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AI've largely been staying away from this team.
Speaker AJennings is going too high for me and Ricky Parasol usually disappears as well.
Speaker AThere, there must be a lot of players right in that range that I like because I never end up with them.
Speaker AAll right, shall we move on to the Seattle Seahawks?
Speaker AAirline is eight and a half last year they were.
Speaker AThey did have 10 wins but they did not make the playoffs.
Speaker AThey tied for the lead in their this division but lost on the tiebreaker.
Speaker AThis team feels really new.
Speaker AIt's all new players other than their running back room and jsn.
Speaker BYeah, we don't really see a lot of double digit win teams just blow it up like the Seahawks did.
Speaker BThey have a new play caller, they have a new quarterback, they have a new wide receiver.
Speaker BOne.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AThis is total change.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ATheir new offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak came in from the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker AHe was previously the past game coordinator in San Francisco and his brother's still in San Francisco.
Speaker AClay Kubiak.
Speaker ASo Kubiak's or well known coaching family.
Speaker AAny concern with Clint Kubiak or shall we jump into what personnel he liked in New Orleans?
Speaker AI feel like New Orleans might be a little bit of a bad example because they also had their giant share of injuries last year with losing their quarterback.
Speaker AAll of their wide receivers.
Speaker AThe only thing that was healthy was Kamara.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd we did see some amazing weeks from Kamara and he was really integral in that offense.
Speaker BAnd Kubiak, his entire scheme is based on running the ball.
Speaker BWe saw Mike McDaniel, Mike McDonald, the head coach for this team, wearing a hat last season saying run the damn ball.
Speaker BAnd then he brings in Clint Kubiak.
Speaker BThey're telling you what they want to do.
Speaker BThey and yeah, diving into their personnel like we can see from the Saints, they're bringing in a lot of these exotic packages, 12, 13, 21, a lot more than the league average.
Speaker BAnd it's all to create this kind of dynamic run scheme where you really never know where you're going to get hit from.
Speaker BAnd if you're a defensive lineman, whether you're taking the right angle or if there's a guard pulling that's about to get a cheap shot on you.
Speaker BAnd we saw how good Kamara looked in it, and even just getting quick outlet passes for the quarterback.
Speaker BAnd when I was diving in, I had some hesitations about Sam Darnold and everything.
Speaker BI don't really.
Speaker BI'm not fully bought in on Sam Darnold.
Speaker BI think it was a lot of the Vikings making him look good, but I think for what they're going to ask of him, he can absolutely execute it and he has the experience.
Speaker BThey're not going to ask as much as the Vikings did last year.
Speaker BThis is not going to be a spread, air it out offense.
Speaker BThis is going to be execute the play action and hit the kind of open man that we've schemed up.
Speaker ASo are you drafting a lot of Ken Walker and Zach Charbonnet?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhich one?
Speaker BYeah, I've been kind of mixing them in, so I want pieces of this running game and I'm willing to take both.
Speaker BWe've seen Zach Charbonnet in a week that Ken Walker was out, was the number one overall running back on one of those weeks.
Speaker BSo he has that ceiling if Ken Walker is to get hurt.
Speaker BAnd Ken Walker has missed a lot of games in his seasons, so I've just been mixing them in and I think we'll actually get spike weeks from both of them throughout the season.
Speaker AYeah, I think so.
Speaker AAnd it's interesting.
Speaker AI've been asked a lot about handcuffing and the theory behind it in fangirl football with the ladies, and we don't do a lot of handcuffing anymore where you truly need that other back that's behind you.
Speaker AThis situation.
Speaker AI would lean differently if I'm taking Ken Walker.
Speaker AI almost definitely want to guarantee that I've got Charbonnet sitting there as well.
Speaker BPotentially my attack.
Speaker BI've done it a couple times with the Seahawks, but I think I'm more looking for the handcuff where, you know, I take CMC and then grindo's a far or far lower price.
Speaker BThe problem with handcuffing in this situation is Charbonnet is One of the most expensive backup backups.
Speaker BHe's being drafted as the RB35.
Speaker BSo you are.
Speaker BHe's going slightly earlier than most backs.
Speaker AIs that because we think Walker's going to get hurt?
Speaker BProbably.
Speaker BAnd people want this running game.
Speaker AYeah, they do.
Speaker AThey want part of this running game.
Speaker ALet's go ahead and look at your target share and see what that's going to look like.
Speaker AJackson, Smith, Najigba, jsn, He's the guy now with Metcalf going to the Steelers.
Speaker BHe is the guy.
Speaker BNo DK anymore.
Speaker BDk, he had kind of already overtaken him, but he was still basically facing the number two cornerback typically and DK was still lined up against the main corner for each team in man to man situations.
Speaker BSo JSN is going to be asked.
Speaker BThey did bring in Cooper cup as that veteran role.
Speaker BI think he still has some production left in him similar to what we saw of Adam Thielen the past couple of years for the Panthers.
Speaker BThat role, that slot receiver, route runner.
Speaker BCooper cup was never a physical dominator like he had some get breakaway speed, but that's not his skill set.
Speaker BThis is one of the target shares.
Speaker BI've adjusted more throughout this off season because Tori Horton, the fifth round wide receiver out of Colorado State has just come out of nowhere and right now he's a starting wide receiver on this depth chart and he has been getting all the camp buzz so he is starting to climb up draft boards.
Speaker BHe is starting to get drafted more often in best ball leagues and he is making some splash plays especially in the preseason game.
Speaker BSo have you taken any Tory Horton yet?
Speaker AI have not, no.
Speaker AI think Tori Horton might be one of those that were going.
Speaker AYeah, we bought way too much into preseason play.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe one thing I can think for Torrey Horton is that outside wide receiver for Clint Kubiak.
Speaker BIf we think that's the Rasheed Shahid role that New Orleans had, we saw what that offense can look like when it's working in those first like three weeks for the Saints and I think they'll set up some plays to try to beat them deep.
Speaker BThey want to hammer you on the run game and then set up that play action deep.
Speaker BSo I think he could appear in some daily fantasy lineups.
Speaker AAll right, Talking about daily fantasy, where's Jake Bobo?
Speaker BYeah, he's kind of.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AI've done well with him in daily fantasy in the past and he's not anywhere on this chart.
Speaker ASo is he just gone?
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AWhen we look at Marquez Valdez scantling.
Speaker AI feel like Bobo's better than him.
Speaker BI. Yeah, I would say they're about the same.
Speaker BMarquez Valdez scaling has just bounced around as an ex wide receiver for all of these teams.
Speaker BHe was with Kubiak last year for the Saints and the problem is JSN and Cooper cup both prefer to play in the slot.
Speaker BSo you're already.
Speaker BEvery time you have to bring Cooper cup into the game, you're forcing JSN to the outside.
Speaker BAnd then if you have a third wide receiver for you're not having a third wide receiver all the time.
Speaker BI don't really think these third options are going to be consistent at all.
Speaker BAnd I think Tori Horton has apparently just shown out, so I'm buying in on the Horton hype train right now.
Speaker AAll right, you can buy in on that.
Speaker AClint Kubiak loves his tight ends.
Speaker AThey got a rookie tight end.
Speaker AHow do you feel about him?
Speaker BYeah, they've talked him up a lot in the passing game.
Speaker BHe is not a good blocker really.
Speaker BSo when he's on the field he's going to be used as a pass catcher.
Speaker BBut I don't think he's going to be on the field that much because this team's identity is running the ball.
Speaker BA trade off.
Speaker BVery interested to see if he's part of those red zone packages, but I have not been taking a lot of Elijah Royo.
Speaker BTypically rookie tight ends are not the best bet.
Speaker BI think he'll.
Speaker BHe might take a year or two.
Speaker AWhat's he going to do without a Taysum Hill?
Speaker BIt's true he might have been a remnant from the Sean Payton scheme.
Speaker BSo we'll see.
Speaker AThis is true.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AOver under the eight and a half.
Speaker AI don't know if you.
Speaker AIf we picked before, let's do it again.
Speaker BI like the over for this team.
Speaker BI think they're going to have one of the better defenses in the league and I like the running back room even.
Speaker BWe didn't really talk much about the depth behind Charbonnet, but they brought in Damian Martinez in the seventh round who I think is a very talented third option too.
Speaker BThis is just a great entire running back room and they're going to establish their identity.
Speaker BI think a lot of these defensive physical identity teams have a clear path to that nine win mark but not a lot of ceiling to get those like 14 or 15 win outcomes.
Speaker AI feel like there's too much in motion on this team and that they're going to have to take a step back and find some Consistency.
Speaker AThey've got too many people that have never played with each other to have a successful season.
Speaker AFor me, even if you are running the ball.
Speaker ACause then everyone knows you're going to run the ball and that doesn't end well.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker ASo I'm on the under for the Seahawks 49ers play at Seattle week one.
Speaker ASo one of these two teams is going to start off with a losing record.
Speaker ALet's move on to the Cardinals.
Speaker ATalk about two teams that are very different.
Speaker AThe Cardinals didn't change hardly anything from last year.
Speaker ASo their line is eight and a half and they finished last season eight and nine.
Speaker AThe coaching didn't change, the team didn't change.
Speaker AThey're going to have the continuity that I'm looking for in deciding if a team's going to be successful.
Speaker AI'm going to be on their over eight and a half here where I was on the under for the Seahawks for exactly the same reason.
Speaker ABecause they get another season to do to learn what they did well and to do it even better.
Speaker AWe had Marvin Harrison Jr. Last year as a rookie coming in where we all thought he was going to go crazy, but it's taking him some time to learn.
Speaker AAnd Kyler Murray feel like he had a really good year, but he needs even another year to come back from his injury.
Speaker AHow are you feeling about this team?
Speaker BSo I do like the Cardinals and Jonathan Gannon, their head coach, has shown consistent improvement through his first couple years.
Speaker BAnd I think this team is playing a lot harder than a lot of people expected.
Speaker BLast year they did not really have high expectations.
Speaker BI think they only finished with a wins.
Speaker BBut still, this team was in a lot of those games coming down to the wire and the defense didn't have a lot of talent.
Speaker BBut I think for the players they had, they were executing at a really high level.
Speaker BSo I do like this coaching.
Speaker BI'm not as high on them for fantasy options, but I like them as a team and I think they're going to be a fun team to bet on.
Speaker AOkay, so let's go into the plays that they like to run.
Speaker AThey shouldn't be changing.
Speaker AIt should be more of the same.
Speaker BYeah, pretty consistently.
Speaker BBut one of the weirdest things, when I was going through their personnel, I was like, this is if you covered the team logo and the team name over there, I'm like, this is the Steelers.
Speaker BLike they're bringing in all of these 12 and 13, bringing in these extra tight ends on the field to basically just run it down.
Speaker BThis other team's throat.
Speaker BWe can see that when they have in 12 personnel, they're in that about 30% of the time and they're running 60% of the time.
Speaker BAnd then they're in 13 another 15% of their plays and running 70% of the time on those packages.
Speaker BThey want to have James Conner.
Speaker BThey want to challenge the opposing team to try to tackle James Conner 25 times a game and see how they feel the next day.
Speaker BI think it'll be fun.
Speaker BI don't think a lot's going to change here.
Speaker BAnd for those other tight end options, they really just have McBride as the only passing option.
Speaker BThe other tight ends they bring are just blockers.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ASo that we just all agreed that nothing is going to change.
Speaker AThey're going to run the same kind of thing.
Speaker AThey're going to run and they're going to use their tight end.
Speaker ASo why aren't you taking James Connor or Trey McBride?
Speaker BI like McBride.
Speaker BHe's just a very steep cost, but I've taken him a little bit higher than the average rate.
Speaker BI really like him.
Speaker BAnd Bowers, if I can get one of those elite options for tight end.
Speaker AI think like James Conner.
Speaker AYeah, I think he's a bargain.
Speaker BHe is if he stays healthy.
Speaker BHe just worries me with how much wear and tear for that physical style like he before last season that was about his only like healthy full season.
Speaker BAnd I have been taking a lot of Trey Benson because I want pieces of this rushing game just not around that spot that James Connor goes.
Speaker ASo you're willing to take CMC but not James Conner because you think CMC is going to stay healthy, but you think James Conner isn't.
Speaker AJames Connor's younger and has less of an injury pass than CMC.
Speaker AI'm.
Speaker AAnd James Conner is going at running back 18.
Speaker AHe finished last year as running back 11.
Speaker AAnd this whole team seemed to be scared of the end zone last year and couldn't actually get into it.
Speaker AWe can talk about Trey McCarthy Bride's lack of touchdowns here in a minute when we get to the the target shares.
Speaker ABut even James Conner wasn't necessarily getting a lot of touchdowns either.
Speaker AHe had eight rushing and one passing.
Speaker ASo I think he can definitely step up and get into the end zone more than he was last year.
Speaker BIt's not really fair to him.
Speaker BAnd really the only knock I have against him is that he was healthy last year and he's just such a bruiser of a runner and he absorbs that contact.
Speaker BI think of like Jameer Gibbs or something where they're just really good at never really taking that full hit or they're very deliberate.
Speaker BIf they're going to lower their shoulder, it's probably against a smaller cornerback or something.
Speaker BBut James Conner is like meeting those linebackers in the hole and he wants to fight for that extra yard every time.
Speaker BSo I like Trey Benson as a backup just at his price.
Speaker BI think he's a similar bet and he has significant upside in this rushing attack.
Speaker AYeah, didn't I hear all of that last year too?
Speaker AAnd that didn't work out real well for Trey Benson.
Speaker AHe didn't really see the field.
Speaker ABut you're going with healthy last year means injured this year, little bit.
Speaker AAll right, let's move on to target share.
Speaker AAnd who else is there Besides, Marvin Harrison Jr. And Trey McBride?
Speaker AAnd does Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker AFigure out how to run his routes and get in the right spot this year?
Speaker BAs far as relevant options, I think you can cut the list off after those two.
Speaker BMichael Wilson's gonna play the wide receiver two role.
Speaker BI just don't think it's gonna be worth that much in this offense.
Speaker BI think Harrison will be better, but I think I don't really like him in fantasy because I think a lot of the upside is already being taken away.
Speaker BLast year he was.
Speaker BHe finished as the wide receiver 30 and currently in drafts he's going as the wide receiver 14.
Speaker BSo even if he does improve, like it's already projected in where you're taking him, you're taking him above other like elite options.
Speaker BYou're taking them around like T. Higgins and everything and like receivers that have shown they can produce more than him.
Speaker BSo I don't know.
Speaker BI was taking them a little bit early, but I've slowed down recently.
Speaker BWhat about you?
Speaker AI haven't been taking him, but I like James Conner in this offense.
Speaker ASo we'll see if that comes back to.
Speaker ATo haunt me because I have been taking Connor and I haven't really been on the Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker ABandwagon, but I could probably get there.
Speaker AI think you're right though.
Speaker AHe's going a little bit higher than I want right now.
Speaker AI need somebody that's shown what they can do, which it's the opposite for me and James Conner, I feel like he's going lower.
Speaker AHe is going lower than where he finished last year and I'm willing to buy into that run game.
Speaker BYeah, for Harrison to really be a value at where he's going, like it would.
Speaker BHe would need to be double digit touchdowns.
Speaker BHe would need to take A significant leap into that dominant tier one.
Speaker ABut if everything comes back to normal, then this whole team's going to be scoring all the touchdowns that they didn't score last year.
Speaker BIt's true.
Speaker BSo are you thinking that translates ten over an eight and a half for the Cardinals?
Speaker AYeah, I'm on the over for the Cardinals.
Speaker AHow about you?
Speaker BI also the over.
Speaker BI like this coaching staff.
Speaker BI like the scheme.
Speaker BUm, I do like James Conner, this rushing attack.
Speaker BSo I am on the over for.
Speaker AAll these teams though.
Speaker AHow does that work out?
Speaker BWe still have a fourth quarter.
Speaker AIt's all about to come crashing down.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ALet's move on to the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker ATheir line's nine and a half, I guess cuz they won the division last year at 10 and 7.
Speaker ABut that seems a little high given the whole situation.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AThis just feels like an ancient team.
Speaker AThey swapped in Devonte Adams for Cooper cup, but that's about all the changes that they made.
Speaker AEveryone just got another year older.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd they didn't have a lot of room to give there too.
Speaker BIt feels like this team is just one play away from having their season entirely change.
Speaker BAnd we've had seasons like this in the past.
Speaker BIn 2022, Stafford missed a bunch of games and that team missed the playoffs and only had about six wins.
Speaker BSo I think that's one of the like outcomes here is that we just see a repeat of that 2022 season.
Speaker AYeah, I think so.
Speaker AStafford's health is a huge concern.
Speaker AHe did actually make it to practice this week, but he has an aggravated disc and that doesn't sound like something that is going to just go away.
Speaker AIt's not going to go away.
Speaker ASo they've definitely got to protect him and otherwise we're looking at Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd I think if we get Jimmy Garoppolo, then Devonte Adams might just leave and go out that door with Stafford.
Speaker BBecause we already saw Devonte force himself off of a team because he did not want to play with Jimmy Garoppolo anymore.
Speaker AIt could be interesting.
Speaker AMaybe we'll see him become a Steeler or something.
Speaker AAll right, what's this team like to run?
Speaker AAnd they're probably going to keep running it because it all runs through Kyron Williams the running back, doesn't it?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSean McVay has a scheme and that is a spread attack.
Speaker BThey use 11 personnel where they have three wide receivers about 81% of the time.
Speaker BIt's like them and the Falcons, who their offensive coordinator also Came from the Rams that always use three wide receivers, but they don't actually pass that much.
Speaker BEven though they have all these wide receivers, they more just want to force the secondary on the sides of the field and kind of create more running lanes for Kyren in the middle and especially in the red zone.
Speaker BThey heavily lean on their run game and we saw just Kyren eat once they get down to the red zone.
Speaker AYeah, I have not bought into Kyron Williams.
Speaker AI thought he was terribly inefficient last year and doesn't have too many yards per carry, but he keeps getting it done and he keeps getting the ball in the red zone.
Speaker BLike you said, he just got paid too.
Speaker AYeah, that usually ends up in an injury when they pay him.
Speaker BBut we've also seen how quickly things have turned, especially for the Rams.
Speaker BWe had Todd Gurley leading the league in touchdowns one year and then cut the next and irrelevant.
Speaker AThis team just doesn't make me excited.
Speaker AIt should.
Speaker AI love Devonte Adams and he had a really good year last year, but I don't know, I just feel like Stafford's not going to play this whole season.
Speaker BThat's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker BIf you're having to take an epidural a couple weeks before the season, how are you going to back up or bounce back from taking hit after hit?
Speaker BAnd I don't think this is one of the better lines in the league and so we'll see.
Speaker BI don't think they have a lot of depth either.
Speaker BSo we've seen Stafford consistently tough it out and grind it out in games, but at some point it's got to catch up to you.
Speaker BHe is one of the oldest quarterbacks in the league right now and he has taken a beating through his career.
Speaker BSo at one point you just takes a little bit longer to bounce back from those hits.
Speaker AYeah, definitely.
Speaker ASo assuming that there is somebody in there capable of passing and I don't know that there will be with Jimmy Garoppolo, what's the target share going to look like?
Speaker AWe've got Puka Nukua and Devonte Adams and then everybody else.
Speaker AIt feels like.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd even if we see Jimmy Garoppolo, Puka and Devonte play a very quarterback friendly system, I think they're still, they still have a solid floor, especially in PPR leagues.
Speaker BI'm not letting them slide too far in drafts.
Speaker BBut Puka also struggles with his own injury history and he misses games from time to time and he is involved so much.
Speaker BThat kind of takes a beating.
Speaker BBut I like Puka and Devonte.
Speaker BI was taking them earlier in the off season.
Speaker BI've just been scared off with all the Stafford news.
Speaker AI've been scared off as well and just trying to stay away from this team.
Speaker AI don't get excited over this team.
Speaker AI feel like I'd rather be involved in a team that I am excited over even if I have to take like Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker AI feel like that situation's just a little bit better than this one.
Speaker BSo for the top three options, we have Puka going drafted as wide receiver 6.
Speaker BWe have Kyron drafted as RB13 and we have Devonte Adams drafted as wide receiver 16.
Speaker BI feel like those can't all work.
Speaker BAnd this it's not like this was a high flying offense last year.
Speaker BThey were 20th in scoring so they're being drafted really high.
Speaker BIf you had to rate them in confidence, like what would you say out of those three for just not ruining your team?
Speaker ALike not I'd probably go devonte Adams first.
Speaker AI feel like he has been the most reliable even though he's 32.
Speaker AI feel like he's usually the healthiest and he finds ways to get open.
Speaker APuka scares me because he's so young and he's still so injured.
Speaker BYou're also passing down like Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. To take him.
Speaker AAnd then to me this feels like the situation we saw last year with the jets where we were all buying into the jets, receivers, running backs, you name it.
Speaker ABut then we were very down on Aaron Rodgers and in the in a similar situation I'm like, how can you love the entire offense without loving Matthew Stafford?
Speaker AYeah, and I don't think there's any way that I can get everyone to buy into Matthew Stafford.
Speaker AMatthew Stafford can't produce two top 15 wide receivers and a running back and not do well himself.
Speaker ASo something's got to give in this situation.
Speaker AI'm personally just trying to stay away from it.
Speaker BMe too.
Speaker BSo I am taking the under for the Rams.
Speaker BIt was part of the reason why I like the Cardinals on their over for their division win total because they play them a couple times in the back half of the year.
Speaker AYeah, I'm on the under here too.
Speaker AThey do also get to play the AFC south so that will benefit them, but otherwise I'm on the under.
Speaker BHow do you think this division finishes?
Speaker BWhat's your order?
Speaker BReal quick.
Speaker AOh, hard to go against 49ers but I 49ers are Cardinals win it, Seahawks are third and the Rams are last I'm with you.
Speaker BI think the Cardinals give the 49ers a run for the division, but I'm just going to take Shanahan and Purdy to eke it out.
Speaker BAnd then Seahawks and I think the Rams probably are set up for a collapse and maybe a six or seven win season.
Speaker AI think so too.
Speaker AI guess the Cardinals, I keep putting them in there because of their touchdown deficit last year and I feel like at some point they got to get lucky and if all their luck comes in this year, then they're going to win this division.
Speaker BWell, that is it for our NFC west breakdown.
Speaker BWe've got one last division.
Speaker BWe'll be tackling the NFC north next.
Speaker BThere's a lot of question marks, but of a lot of fantasy value if we know where to look.
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