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Hello there, Modern Man. In today's episode, we have Ken

Schafer, and I'm going to interview him about what it's

like to have ED and live with ED, and what's he done about it.

Because I want to have real conversation and bringing this

out of the closet and discuss this in prime time, because

these are real issues that affect a lot of men. 50% of men

over 50 have ED, and that's pre covid, and I believe that is a

lot more. So this is a very common problem that men have,

that I want to reassure him that he's not alone, but there are

solutions for ED that you don't have to take that little blue

pill. So Ken, welcome to the show.

Happy to be here.

Okay, so let me ask you this, what did you first

notice something wasn't right about your sex life?

Well, what I first noticed is that my erections in

the morning weren't. I used to have erections in the morning

and they were very sustainable. I didn't have to really try to

keep the erection. And I noticed that they were becoming

unsustainable. And it happened very rapidly. Within a few

weeks, maybe a couple months, I was having trouble getting an

erection at all.

How old were you then?

I was 47. Roughly 47.

And what occurred in your mind at that time when

that happened?

Yeah, well, I couldn't believe it was

happening to me, and I was extremely embarrassed about it.

So this was like nearly, I want to say 15 years ago, if I'm

doing the math right. And I think 15 years ago, there wasn't

as much information out there, and it wasn't as accessible. And

I made the same mistake a lot of guys make. I went to my doctor,

who was a GP, and he referred me to a urologist, and I I made the

mistake of assuming that they knew what they were doing, and

all they did was test my testosterone and throw a Cialis.

At first, it worked great, but then after a while it stopped

working, and that's when I really had to start digging in

to figure things out.

Okay, let me ask you this. What did you think at

that time, when you first found out, you said it was pretty

quick. What did you think was causing under performance? At

that time, did you know it was Ed?

I think deep down, I knew it was ED. I wanted to

believe that it was just like a temporary dress or whatever, but

after a while, I began to realize it was ED, and it was a

pretty severe case of ED. So, yeah, I mean, I was in denial

for a while.

Okay, like you said, What was the first feeling

that you had when you found out they said ED? You said it was a

shame. And what else denial? What else?

I was just very ashamed. I didn't realize at

that time how common it was. I thought I was alone. I thought

there were very few. I mean, I knew other guys had ED, but I

thought the numbers were quite small. So I went to the extent

of I created a special Google account to do my research so

that no one would know what was going on. I was being paranoid

about it, but I went to that extreme.

Wow, wow. So what were the emotion that you felt

that you didn't tell anyone that you were embarrassed about? I

mean, did you tell your wife at that time?

Oh, my wife knew. My wife at the time knew she

wasn't particularly supportive. That's a whole other

conversation to have. But she wasn't very supportive. She knew

what was going on. Fortunately, the band aid of using Cialis, it

worked well for, quite well for a while, and I never thought to

look for anything beyond Cialis. It never even occurred to me

that there were other treatments available.

Okay, so when you took Cialis, did you think your

ED was gone? You don't have to worry about anything. I mean,

you took Seattle, you're just like, Oh, I'm good. I'm 100% is

that what it made you feel?

No. I mean, I wasn't happy about having to

take Cialis, but it did work. It had the desired effect.

How long did it work for?

It worked until I was in my mid, early 50s, and then it kind of

worked okay for a while, and then eventually it just stopped

working.

So how did ED affect your confidence, not just in the

bedroom, but in your life?

That's a good question. I don't know. I think

it didn't affect my life too much, outside of the bedroom and

outside of my marriage. I had this inner sense of being less

than a man because I needed to use Cialis, but I don't recall

like it affecting my work or anything else. This was a while

ago, so I don't really have clear memories of all that.

Okay, so how did it affect your relationship with

your wife, with your ED?

My wife at the time, it wasn't a very good

relationship to begin with, and this was kind of like the nail

in the coffin, one of several nails, but, yeah, it was not a

good situation, but it is what it is. It's over now.

Got you, so did you think, and we do know that when

there's relationship tension, that also affects sexual

function. So was it the relationship sentence, or was it

more physiological part that you think may have contributed to

the ED 17 years ago?

I think not feeling supported definitely did affect

me. My ED was severe enough where I was going to have ED

regardless of whether or not I had support, but it just added

to the pressure and to the anxiety and to everything else.

So it didn't help. I'm not sure how much it directly affected.

Gotcha. So the relationship ended. That was

your ex wife?

Yes. That ended. And yes.

Rght. So the ED, kind of like you said, kind of

like one of the component that kind of pushed it over, that

ended their relationship. Well, I'm sorry about that. I'm sure

that's happened, but what you're selling me is not unusual. I

hear that, unfortunately, most often than not, when I treat

patients in your office, that the ED either affected their

marriage or is now like the wife is giving them do something

about it. So it affects two people. ED is a two person

problem. If you're in a relationship. If you're a

married, you're in a relationship, it's a two person

problem. That at one. And we do know that a supportive partner

is actually a treatment for ED as well. It's one of the

treatment for ED, and then conversely, not a supportive

partner, it contribute to ED. So partner relationship with the

component of treatment for ED. So something to consider about

and hope that in a future show that I like to have a man and a

woman that are in a relationship with ED and have them discuss

about this and share this as well. And I would love to do

that another show. So you said you tried Cialis. What

frustration did you have with the Cialis or the traditional

treatment?

Well, at first, my frustration was just the limited

availability. I was given four pills a month. At that time,

there was no generic Cialis. So unless you wanted to pay a lot

of money out of pocket, you were limited to four uses. That was a

big frustration. Another frustration, most of my

frustrations developed once the cilis stopped working.

Gotcha. So why did it only give you four a month at

that time, that was what insurance covers?

That's what insurance covered, right.

Right. I think at that time, Cialis its about $65

a pill. It was quite expensive.

I remember it as being more than that, but it was

expensive. And, yeah, if you wanted to have sex more than

once a week, you were going to pay out of pocket.

Yep. So that's what insurance company think, right?

You should only have sex once a week, and you have more, you got

to pay for it as well. And that no insurance company or no one

should dictate how often you should have intimate relations.

You brought up a good point. I didn't even think about that,

because now Cialis is generic, so it's cheaper, but not

necessarily is the best. When did you find out that

traditional treatment weren't really helping you that much,

and you needed to seek other options.

Yeah, so I got divorced and remarried, and I

began to notice with my new wife that it was working quite well

at first, and then over time, it was working, but it wasn't

working like it used to. And then eventually it just stopped

working. I was in panic mode. I was in a relationship with, you

know, good relationship, and I didn't want anything to risk

that. So I start that. That's really what got me started down

a long path of trying to find alternatives to these

traditional treatments that as. As you've pointed out, they only

treat the symptoms. They don't really treat the underlying

cause.

And that's the thing with ED medication. I've

been saying this over and over again, is that it's like putting

a band aid on an infected wound. It doesn't treat the cause of

why you have ED. And it may just be that time, maybe high blood

pressure or stress or overweight, or diabetes, a high

cholesterol, sleep deprivation, there's multiple common factor.

That's why ED is so common, guys. Like the commonest thing

affect you, like sleep, smoking, not exercising, overweight,

those things can affect you as well. So that's why ED is more

common than you think. What finally did you decide? You know

what? Okay, pill doesn't help, and most guys will go, Well,

let's try trimix or try implant. What made you feel like you need

to achieve other alternative besides, you know, implant? Was

that offered to you at that time?

No, I went to my GP, and she referred me to a

urologist, and to his credit, I was talking about an implant, he

was like, we're not there yet. To his credit, however, he

failed to impress me as a doctor. He gave me a

testosterone test, which is normal for men with ED. I looked

at the results and I could see that that was a problem. And

before I talked to him, I started digging through the

scientific literature to verify that that what I suspected was

true. He looked at the results, and because they fell within the

normal range, he felt there was no problem, even though my free

testosterone was right at the very edge between normal and

below normal. And I I knew at that point that I didn't respect

his knowledge on this subject, and I ceased seeing him for

treatment. I then went to an endocrinologist who specialized

more in diabetes treatment. She wanted to help, but she she

didn't understand the nuances of TRT. And I think I'm drifting

away from your question here, am I staying on track, or am I

drifting?

No, no, I think you're there. But let's move on

to the next one is that I know you have mentioned this before,

that you feel that traditional treatment was urology was not

addressing what you really needed. What did you mean by

that?

Well, I wanted to find out what the root cause

was. I went into the urologist thinking, you know, I want tests

to find out what the root cause is. Even at that point, I

understood that there are many possible causes for ED and more

treatable than others, and if mine was going to be easy to

treat, I wanted to know that. And if it was going to be

difficult to treat, I wanted to know that as well. He had

absolutely no interest in in doing he just wanted to give me

Viagra or Cialis.

I see, what were you afraid of before? Like,

starting taking Viagra, were you, I mean, or Cialis, you

said, were you afraid of anything before you started

taking

No, no. I probably should have been, but I wasn't.

I just thought that. I just accepted what my doctors were

telling me. I didn't really, and I don't know what was publicly

available. I didn't realize what the side effects were so I

wasn't afraid, but I probably should have been right.

So you said, Well, I stopped working. You went to

your urologist, and your numbers were just at the bottom, but not

yet insurance qualify as being low. So you weren't qualified

for insurance coverage for testosterone replacement

therapy. What was your journey? What did you do to kind of start

taking over what you needed to do for your sexual performance

again?

So at that time, my understanding of ED was much

more limited, but I strongly suspected that my testosterone

levels were the cause. I now know that that that wasn't the

soul class. It may have been a contributing cause, but and I

was looking for doctors who understood how to treat guys

with testosterone deficiency and understood that just because

you're within the normal range, that doesn't mean you're

healthy. I read a book by Dr Abraham Morgenthaler, which

confirmed a lot of my suspicions. In fact, I had

looked at a lot of the same studies he mentioned in the

book. I actually went to the clinic he founded. He had

retired from the clinic, but I went to the clinic in Boston

that he founded, and that was my first real bout with TRT. I was

able to get the testosterone I needed.

But you pay for it. Insurance didn't pay, didn't

cover it.

No, it was all out of pocket. It was a concierge

type service, actually, I take that back. They I was able to

get insurance to cover some of the costs, but not all of it.

Most of it was out of pocket.

Right. So did that help with your ED, taking

testosteron?

Oh, no, no. I got very frustrated, because at the

clinic, they were very good about helping guys with low

testosterone, but they were only offering traditional treatments

for ED. So they wanted to push Cialis and Viagra, or tri mix,

and if all else failed, they would recommend an implant. I

was a bit frustrated, because I felt like they also were if the

root cause wasn't testosterone, they weren't any better prepared

than the other urologist I had seen to recommend treatment.

So when you started testosterone like you still were

having some ED issues. What was your next step?

This is about the same time I met Dr. Rachel Ross,

who you've interviewed on this podcast previously, and she was

doing weekend intensives, and I didn't really know who she was,

but just listening to the kind of treatments she was talking

about, I was very intrigued. You know, they're very similar, very

similar to the kind of treatments I that you recommend.

And so I was very intrigued. And I went to the weekend intensive,

and then I started to work with her as a patient for a little

over a year after that.

Gotcha, you kind of, your eyes were open to other

alternative than implant and medication. What was the first

thing you did that you've learned from that?

Well, you know, just simple things like your

health, you need to address your health problems, okay? And

although I wasn't particularly unhealthy, there was a lot of

room for improvement. You need to enjoy. I mean, that's basic,

and it's not rocket science. It's exercise, diet, sleep, all

the standard things that you learn throughout your life. You

really need to take that seriously. And then there is a

lot of things you can do at home, like pumping and Kegels

and in some cases, prostate massage and things like that.

There's things you can do on your own that are treatments for

ED and you know that it's not that expensive to do these

things.

Yeah, absolutely. And oftentimes it's too good to

be true, is what I call it.

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walking 30 minutes a week. Just move, move around, just at least

30 minutes at a time. You know, four times a week. Sleep,

getting adequate sleep, at least seven hours of sleep, whether

daytime or nighttime. Because I know, Ken, you work nighttime.

And then stress management, and I know sometimes that's hard for

men, because men are not expressive people. You know,

they internalize their feelings, and they don't express emotions

and feelings like women are but oftentimes that kind of increase

your stress without you really knowing it. And when your stress

level is high, it produces a hormone called cortisol, which

then affect the erection, which then kind of affect the nerve

that create an erection. That's how stress affect erection. But

oftentimes stress is not something that we measure

objectively, and sometimes we don't even know that we're

stressed as well. But stress shows up if you have one of

this, like, you know, Apple Watch, or those, those monitors,

stress shows up at increasing heart rate variance, which is

the heart rate variability that you can see with stress. Even

now, you're going to wear an Aura ring. Aura ring like this,

to monitor your stress level. And they'll tell you if you're

stressed or not as well. And I wear this every day. And

oftentimes it'll say, tell me, are you stressed right now? Your

heart rate is high. I don't even feel I'm stressed. So that's

when I feel like I have to take a moment to breathe and to be in

a meditative state. So you started doing, instituting

lifestyle, you know, changes in your body. What did you notice?

And of course, doing the penis pumping. I'm a big proponent of

penis pumping, testicle massage, doing Kegel and breathing. What

did you notice? And this is without Cialis, I assume.

Yes, I was actually not getting great results for a

while. I was a little bit panicked by it, because I was

expecting to start seeing results that I wasn't seeing. Dr

Rachel Ross then recommended that I go to another doctor to

receive shockwave treatment with the P shot and Botox. That was a

turning point for me. Within hours of receiving the sonic

wave treatment or acoustic wave treatment, within hours I was

getting erections. I mean, it was dramatic. It was a dramatic

change, and that that was the turning point.

So you got shockwave Botox and the P shot,

which is platelet-rich plasma injection into the penis. You

got all three at the same time?

Over the course of two weeks. I don't remember

exactly, but I think I received four shockwave treatments, or

acoustic wave treatments, and, yeah, that sounds right. I can't

remember if it was more than one, but at least 1p shot. I

don't remember if it was multiple. And the Botox was just

once. And that was over, that was a course of treatment that

went over two weeks.

Right now. That's awesome, because that is my Get

Hard System of treatment is doing injecting your own stem

cell would come from your blood, which is the P shot, using your

own blood to help you rejuvenate the penis. And using shock wave,

we use focus shock waves. I don't know if you if you had the

focus shock. There are two shock wave, focus, shock wave and

radio shock wave. Radio shock wave is more acoustic. Focus

shock wave is extra corporal shock wave therapy, which is

more strong.So we use focus shockwave, Botox and P shot in

combination. And then we also now do electrical nerve

stimulation to the pelvic muscle that similar to doing Kegel. So

we do all the treatment in the office and have patient actually

take the Kegel stimulator machine home to do at home every

day. And then I always stress after the treatment. I always

stress penis pumping, testicle mature pelvic muscles, as well

as doing box breathing and instituting the diet, the

exercise and stress management. And that's one of the reason why

we have the modern man club to really help men give them a

roadmap. And now we in the modern man club, we have

nutritionist, we have you helping with the exercise. And

now we're going to have a mindset coach that will help

with meditation and that calming, that performance

anxiety, so that way your erection can appear again.

Because the more you are stressed, the erection will be

harder to get. So I'm glad you got that, and getting that

treatment is what kind of you know, help the erection return

again, right?

It was amazing, because I had, literally, I was

going to go to this treatment. It wasn't cheap. I had to stay

in Philadelphia for two weeks, so put out a lot of money. And I

thought, if this doesn't work, I'm going to start looking into

an implant. Fortunately, fortunately, it worked. But it

worked great. It was a dramatic change.

And how long ago was that?

I want to say, three years

Okay. Three years ago, okay. And what maintenance

have you been doing since three years ago?

Well, I am on TRT. I pump regularly. I probably

should pump a little bit more often, but I do pump regularly,

Kegels meditation, watch my diet and exercise and sleep. Because

I work night, sleep is issue, but I do the best I can.

Of course, you do the best. How old are you now,

Ken?

I'm 62. I'll be 63 in January.

Okay, well, 62 then, you're not quite January

yet. So let me ask you this question, what does it feel like

now to know that you're able to perform in the bedroom?

Well, it feels great. It's been a relief. It's

just a relief, and there's room for improvement. Not everything

is perfect that way. I mean, I wish I was performing like a 20

year old, but that's not going to happen, but it's just one

less source of stress when you can't perform. Even if you don't

have a partner, you still have this constant nagging thing in

the back of your head, like you can't get an erection, you can't

have sex when you want to. You can't get into a relationship

because it's, it's not going to work out because of the, you

know, you have all these things making you feel like you're less

than a man.

Interesting, very interesting. And what you said

is very powerful to really understand what goes to a man

thinking at that time. So what do you wish that you knew

earlier? That you're finding out now, what did you wish that you

knew earlier when you first had ED?

I wish I knew that most doctors do not know how to

treat ED. That would have saved me a huge amount of time and

given me a head start. I don't know what things were like 15

years ago when I first got ED, because I I didn't look past

what the doctors were telling me. But I think even then, there

was more. I mean, I think people pretty much knew you could

probably answer this. People pretty much knew how to treat

ED, the ones who who were like you, who looked into it, but

most doctors simply don't look past symptom management.

Well, it's because they're not taught that, not

because they don't want to, because they're not taught that

traditional medical training in the US is more of disease focus,

rather than disease prevention and not lifestyle prevention.

We're focused on this is the disease, what medicine to fix it

and the surgery to fix it, right? And believe me, I come

from that fact. I came from that training. I came from the

training that I need. I'm a pain management doctor by specialty,

and I came from the training. But patient have pain, give them

opioids, give them thyroid injection, if not, then send

them to surgery. That was the mindset that I was trained on.

And because doctors are not trained on sexual health, it's

not even discussed upon during our training. There's no

specialty that is sexual health alone that is a board

certification. So like urologist do it, but then Family Medicine

do it, OBGYN do it. And so it's kind of like a mixed specialty.

Unless you're really interested in it, you have to seek your own

information. So that is one and then two. It's also just

uncomfortable subject. Sometimes, you know, it's

uncomfortable for patients to talk about it, and it's

uncomfortable for doctor to talk about it as well. And it also

that aspect, and it does. The third part is that it's that

just, they're just not aware of it. It's not awareness in our

training that, you know, ED is so common, and that the way

we're thinking, Well, here's the medicine take that. I can't tell

you how many patients I treat, they take a medicine for

diabetes, and they're thinking, their diabetes can't I don't

have diabetes. All right, they will say, I don't have diabetes.

I take Metformin. So that's not true at all. The medication just

help you not get the long term side effects of the disease. But

most disease we have now are really acquired, like high blood

pressure is acquired, diabetes is acquired, and high

cholesterol is acquired, and all those conditions can be gone

with diet and exercise if you start on it early, and most

patients don't realize the diet and exercise, you can get rid of

all those medication if You just lose about 10% of your weight,

and those conditions also contribute to ED as well. And so

that was where I was leading. That is that doctor church are

not trained. They're not aware of that like even now, what

opened up my eyes was maybe, because I'm Asian, I was

interested in learning acupuncture, and when I learned

about acupuncture, it opens up my eyes on how the body heals

and how the body operate, and there are other alternative to

treatment, rather than just medication and surgery alone.

And that's what went I went down the path of more functional,

holistic healing. So Ken, thank you for sharing that, Ken. So if

a man is watching this that has ED and is struggling alone, what

would you want to say to him right now?

Do not just go to any doctor. You really got to

spend some time researching doctors who specialize in sexual

health or they are very knowledgeable about it. And if

you have low testosterone, lower than average, I would say you

need a doctor who understands the nuances of TRT and when it's

appropriate and when it's not appropriate. But that will be

the hardest part of your journey, is finding the right

doctor.

You're absolutely right, because there's no like

directory for that. And oftentimes, even if you find a

clinic that does sexual health, it may not have the whole

comprehensive of testosterone replacement therapy and the P

shot and the focus shock and the Botox all that together, you

kind of have to piece meal together and be a really an

advocate for yourself, like what you did. But that journey is a

long one, right? And it didn't just come overnight, and you

have to be very persistent at it, so that that was one of the

reason why I created the Modern Man Club, to give. Then a

roadmap of what they need to do and be a resource for them,

because I truly believe ED, when is aadressed early, can be

totally reversed for life. You don't need the medication, and

now you crave Viagra, Cialis, like opioids or pain medication,

you just get addicted to them. They become a crutch until they

stop working. Then you're worse off than you were when you're

four. You started. And I truly believe that if you have ED, if

you're a man, you have ED one to two years, stop taking that

medication. Work on lifestyle changes that can really make a

big impact. And when we talk a lot that we'll talk about taking

your diet, your Mediterranean diet, start walking, moving more

and sleep, and then do stress management. So that's why our

Modern Man Club, we have all the resources for you to do this, as

well as giving you clarity on what you need to do to get out

of ED, because Ken here have to figure it out himself. He had

to, kind of piecemeal things. We're hoping to be a resource

for you. So what would you tell a man who are afraid to ask for

help?

Well, that I think is become the most difficult

this has been a problem that I've really been focused on

lately is why are so few men actively reaching out for help.

What do you think that is?

I don't know, because it's so different. I'm

the kind of person that if I have a problem, I'm going to

exhaust every possibility to solve that problem. I'm not

willing to let things go. Now, sometimes the problem isn't

solvable, but I'm going to try my best, and I'm getting the

sense that that is not typical, or at least typical anymore,

among men, and this is something that I think is a problem, and

I'm not really sure what the cause is or what to do about it,

but it's definitely something I'm interested in understanding

better.

I agree with you, and like I said, some of it is

just embarrassed denial, and there's just saying you don't

know what you don't know. And I love that phrase. It's so true.

You don't know what you don't know, or most men don't know

that they don't have to take the pill that you know that they can

just maybe change your diet. Stop eating pizza and hamburgers

every day. Well you can eat that, but don't eat it every

day, or french fries every day. Maybe that will also help your

erection as well. For men, your erection the warning light in

your car, the engine light, is warning you there's something

going on, and if you fix it, then, and not only does it help

with your sex life, it will also help with living longer and

heart health as well. So it's also Mother Nature that if you

are healthy, you can have an erection, then you can

procreate. You can continue your DNA. If you're not healthy, then

maybe your DNA shouldn't be continued. It's one thing to

think about, and so let's end with this. What is the one myth

about EDthat you have believed in the past that turned out to

be wrong?

Now I think that is primarily a problem with

testosterone. I know testosterone contributes to the

problem, and it contributes to your overall health, and so it

should be if you have low testosterone, that should be

part of the treatment. But I thought early on that if I just

fixed my testosterone levels, everything was going to fall

into place and my ED would be cured. And that's just not the

case.

And you said you're 62 and if you do the math, you

said that this started about 17 years ago. So it started kind of

like in your 40s, which is pretty early for a man in his

40s at that time. And you didn't know what you didn't know,

right? You didn't know that, Hey, maybe if I change my diet,

maybe I exercise more and sleep, lose stress of that, you know,

as well. But I'm really glad that you mentioned that ED is a

compilation problem. Compilation of problems that is common in

ED, it could be hormones, it could be your stress, it could

be your sleep, it could be smoking, could be porn, could be

no diabetes, your high blood pressure, your activity level,

just a lot of things that contribute to that. And that's

when I say you have ED stop and just kind of like do an

introspection, just kind of do an inventory of yourself, be

real with yourself. First thing is, I advocate, if you have ED

go get blood work. Definitely get blood work. Check out your

blood sugar, your cholesterol level, your liver function, your

kidney function, because most men don't feel like they have

high cholesterol or even pre diabetes until they get blood. I

can't tell you how many times I see patients in my office for

ED, we do blood work, and it shows that they're pre diabetic

and they have high cholesterol and they haven't had blood work

in like years as well. That's not men. You know, men don't go

to a doctor. They go to doctor because their wife make them go

to the doctor. I know my husband is like that. He won't go unless

I make him go. And he had pre diabetes, he had high

cholesterol, he had two steps in his heart, and that's what kind

of got me into ED myself. What's happened with my husband? So I

have lived through that as a partner with a husband that has

cardiac issues as well. So having said that, we know the

challenges that men face, and we are a resource for you guys.

Check out our Modern Man Club if you're far away. And I'm here to

help in my office. We do you know everything we do, the

hormone replacement therapy and the shock wave and the Botox and

the stem cell like the P shot as well to more of an integrative

approach to restore function again. And like Ken, you know,

he had ED in his 40s, and he's now functioning, and is a

smarter man about his sexual health. And I know that part of

your mission is to empower men to take control of their sexual

health and to help them where you are now, without spending 10

years or so trying to be your health advocate.

Absolutely, you know, I, I was passionate enough

about it to write a book called A Practical Guide to Managing

Erectile Dysfunction, and it's the synthesis of everything I

And we'll make sure to put that link on Amazon for

learned and experienced over about of 10 to 12 year period.

that book as well too. So having said that, Ken, thank you for

being here and sharing your story, your journey, and I hope

all men feel good about listening to our conversation.

And this is not something you should be ashamed of. This is

very, very common. We're just not talking about, let's start

talking about, let's raise awareness of this. Just know

there are solutions about this as well. You don't have to take

that pill. Yes, you have to do the work, I'll be honest. You

have to do the work, but there is a light at the end of the

tunnel. So thank you Ken for being here. And men, just know

that we're here to help and we're here to get you out of ED

into restoration again. Check out the Modern Man Club at

NoEDMan.com and we'll see you in the next episode.

Okay, Modern Man, you are not alone and you don't have to

suffer anymore. ED can feel isolating, frustrating, and even

defeating. The endless guessing, the quiet shame, the weight of

not feeling like yourself is exhausting. But here's the

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