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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Believing that reality is only a perception of our human, limited thinking. Our next guest understands what it takes to trust in the unknown, and reach for the best in yourself. Hi, and welcome to the Uworld order, showcase, podcast

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: where we feature life, health, transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the coaches alchemist on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission and get visible.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: leveraging the podcasts and the huge audience we have over on the Gnostic TV network. Today we are chatting with my good friend, Allie Davidson. Her mission is to help women heal from loss, betrayal, and various forms of devastation, to reinvent themselves after great transitions, and live full

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: vibrant lives and productive lives. She's also the author of Born of betrayal. Welcome to the show, Ali.

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Ali Davidson: Thank you, Jill. I'm so excited to be here.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So just to catch you guys up, Allie and I've been having this conversation before we started hitting before we hit record. It was just

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the basic thread of it is, we were talking about

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the Cathars and about Mary Magdalene, and about who is God? And so Allie was starting to tell me the story about one time when she was speaking in front of a church, and I, if you wouldn't mind just backing up and asking those 2 questions again, and we'll go from there. I hope you guys get so much out of this conversation because I was just like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we can't just keep going. We have to record this. So.

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Ali Davidson: Thanks, Jill.

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Ali Davidson: Well, what I was saying is, I was invited to speak at a church, and it was a non-denominational church, and so I started by asking the audience 2 questions. The 1st one was, do you believe that before you come into this body, into this life, that you are part of the whole of God. The light and enlightenment of God. And everybody in the audience nodded. And I said, Okay, so we're in agreement.

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Ali Davidson: And then the second question is, and when you die, when you leave this shell of a body, do you believe that you go back to the wholeness and the light of God, and you are enlightened. You're part of all of it. And everybody was like, Yeah. And I said.

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Ali Davidson: then why the hell are we here? Why would we possibly put ourselves through a whole lifetime of trying to become enlightened when we already are before we come, and we know we will be on a soul level. When we leave there must be another purpose, and for me my discovery is that the purpose is simply the experience.

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Ali Davidson: It's the experience, because I am part of the whole. I know you gave a beautiful crystal goblet way of describing it. I describe it as the ocean, like the ocean, cannot exist without every molecule of water, which is what we are.

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Ali Davidson: God is the ocean, but we also cannot be a single molecule without the ocean. So it's a symbiotic experience of oneness with the whole right. And so

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Ali Davidson: how can it be, then, that we separate? And and I remember having a conversation with this really young kid way early in the wee hours of the morning, and he's like, so what do you think is our greatest angst? And I said.

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Ali Davidson: it happens the moment we are born, and we are separated from our mothers, because that is the moment that the physical body feels so, God feels the separation of itself. And then we spend a whole life

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Ali Davidson: like Rene. What's her name?

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Ali Davidson: I want to say, Renee Brown. But is that right? Brene Brown? Brene says, belonging is one of our most

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Ali Davidson: deepest yearnings, right? Because we don't want to be separate, and then we die in that instant alone and reunite. So that's what we were talking about. I really, I really believe that we're here to experience.

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Ali Davidson: because God needs to experience itself.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes. Yeah.

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Ali Davidson: It's like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's novelty?

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Ali Davidson: Yeah, otherwise it'd be very boring. I mean, every day something else was created. And so we are. The reason we are that final amazing being is because we do have free will, and we do have the power to reason. And so we have a choice.

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Ali Davidson: They don't always choose the best ones, but.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We do make choices, and every choice has a consequence, and often we're like, Oh, we don't really have a choice. We have to do this. Well, what you really mean is, I don't want the consequences of the decision that I know I should make, so I'm going to make this other decision always have a choice. There's just the consequences we choose, which consequence is more appealing than the other consequence.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. And sometimes they're both bad consequences. And you just like.

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Ali Davidson: Between rock and a hard place. Right? Yeah. I had a young man ask me one day he was. He was a kid, going through a recovery from from addiction, and you know they said the 12 steps. But he had always been an atheist, and he's like, I want to believe something. How do I choose?

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Ali Davidson: And I said, You know nobody knows the truth, the absolute fact of their belief. They choose it because in believing that particular belief, they feel better.

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Ali Davidson: they feel better than they felt before that belief. So there is no right or wrong answer.

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Ali Davidson: And just like you said, every choice has a consequence, and on top of that

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Ali Davidson: I've always lived by the seat of my pants in many ways, and always believed that everything happens for a reason right? And that's something everybody says now. But then, when something bad happens, they go. Oh, well, this was bad. There couldn't have been a reason for that it's like, no, you have to make a commitment here. Either everything happens for a reason, and that means whatever you consider good or bad, or everything is random. It can't be a little bit of this and that.

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Ali Davidson: So I had a devastating financial experience. In 2,008, where I lost my home. I lost my business.

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Ali Davidson: The economy just took me down.

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Ali Davidson: and before I had gotten into this particular business I had all the signs that pointed in the right direction. I mean, it was, the signs were there, it was supposed to happen. And then when the bad stuff hit, I'm like.

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Ali Davidson: well, then, that was supposed to happen too. So what was the journey about? Right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I. I left your statement about the wind and the leaf.

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Ali Davidson: No.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because I think that is, that is so important.

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Ali Davidson: Okay, I should want to share that. Because.

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Ali Davidson: so to put it in context, we were talking about you know, what? What is the purpose of this life, and we both agreed that it is simply to experience. What is it that's experiencing it? And we agreed that it's the wholeness. It's the God God within us that experiences itself

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Ali Davidson: through us through our physical body, and I liken it to the wind in that the wind itself

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Ali Davidson: isn't experiencing itself while it blows in the sky. It isn't until it comes down and it blows against a leaf. And that's when it feels itself. It has the impact. Right? So that's the same. You know, the wind knows itself by the impact it has on other things as God knows itself by the impact we have.

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Ali Davidson: she.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: As we're excited.

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Ali Davidson: As we're experiencing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Experiencing things, and when we talk about good or bad, they're not. Nothing is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in our perception. Yes, there are things that we are uncomfortable with that cause us to have experience to cause us to experience an emotional reaction to the situation.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But it isn't inherently, either good or bad, because something that's bad for us personally

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for somebody else that could have been like the best thing ever. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: if we can learn to shift how we, how we go through these experiences like, you know, you lost everything. I've gone through periods in my life where I've had nothing, and I've had a lot, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm at a point in my life where things don't mean that much to me anymore. But experiences and relationships. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: those are a big deal. And I collect them like, you know, somebody would hoard gold or silver or something. It's just like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's a process of growth, but it's also a process of experiences. And it's the brushing, the wind brushing against the leaf when you reach, friction is where the growth happens where the experience happens where the change happens, because when a wind brushes against the leaf it also shifts its direction a little bit

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because they're pushing off against each other. So

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: so 2, when 2 things are impacted.

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Ali Davidson: Both of them. Right? Yeah. Oh, that's good. I like, I'm gonna add that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And and the perception from the leaf.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and the experience is going to be different than the perception of the wind in the experiences. 2 2 items that are having the same experience from different

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: angles.

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Ali Davidson: Which is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then God gets to experience both at the same time.

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Ali Davidson: Because we all get to experience you right?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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Ali Davidson: Yeah.

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Ali Davidson: Oh, God, this is deep stuff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is.

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Ali Davidson: I love it, I love it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Specific.

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Ali Davidson: I agree. And I you know, I think.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think we get closer to this understanding. The older we get. My mother's 91 years old, and she sees the world very differently than even she did when she was in her twenties and thirties, and she was my, you know, a young mother to me, and my sibling.

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Ali Davidson: And and I can see that in myself, too, that as we mature and we have more experiences, and we have more data collected to be able to extrapolate truths that make sense to us. It's going to be different for each person.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hmm.

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Ali Davidson: I don't believe that there's good and bad.

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Ali Davidson: I believe there's degrees, and I believe there's preferences. There are things we like and things we don't like right?

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Ali Davidson: But I I actually started really studying an infant.

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Ali Davidson: And you know, most people don't know this, but our conscious mind does not develop until about age 7 or 8. Right? So up until that everything we experience is experienced through our senses. And it's stored in this thing that we call a brain which is like a computer.

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Ali Davidson: And and from the time we're born until about about 3, we don't even recognize that there is a separation between ourselves and everything else, because everything exists

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Ali Davidson: from us for us

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Ali Davidson: to us, right? And and so I started looking at life as I was watching this infant through his eyes, and he he couldn't crawl. Yet he was still like just 3, 4 months old on his tummy, and there was something he wanted, and he? His desire was so strong he didn't give up until he scooted his little body up to it. And I think how many times as an adult do we want something?

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Ali Davidson: And we give up

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Ali Davidson: because our desire for it isn't a pure, just, pure curiosity. It's something else. It's kind of convoluted, and when it gets hard. We don't want it anymore, you know.

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Ali Davidson: and that's when I started to see the world from this, and I called it lifelong playground. I'm like we have a choice. We can live as if we are constantly in a classroom, being tested, pass or fail, you know, having to learn these lessons, or we can live in a perpetual recess where we're on the playground, and everything is there for us to experience. And that's the way I choose to live. So

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Ali Davidson: I was in a car accident 2 years ago, and it really was. It totaled my little, my brand new little car. But it wasn't like fast chase, or I mean, I was going 25 miles an hour, and this kid ran a stop sign and hit me and totaled my car

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Ali Davidson: unbeknownst to me and the doctor, because I don't remember ever hitting my head. I also got a concussion, and because nobody knew and I didn't treat it, it got worse, it became post-concussion syndrome, which is a mild Tbi.

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Ali Davidson: I couldn't work for a year. I couldn't put 2 sentences together. I couldn't read a book. I couldn't do my taxes because none of the numbers made sense. I mean, it was a completely different way of being in my body right?

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Ali Davidson: And I had to seclude myself a lot, because too many people talking too much noise. I couldn't go to a coffee shop without having a severe headache and getting dizzy and stuff.

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Ali Davidson: So I was going through all this experience, and people like, oh, I feel so bad for you. I'm like, no, I don't feel bad about it. I'm just trying to understand. There's got to be a reason right, and I just don't. I don't know what that reason is, but I know I will know at some point. And in the meantime I went broke. I had to have a Gofundme. Happen. I had people donating money that I didn't even know, just so that I could survive. And

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Ali Davidson: and then I was really, really dizzy for a week. And the doctor said, Okay, you need to go to the hospital, and I went to the hospital, and they did a different kind of scan on my brain to see if there was bleeding, or they found 2 aneurysms in my brain that were

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Ali Davidson: ready to burst, which, when they burst, you die instantly right, and they wouldn't, that they were not caused by the accident. They were just a weakness in that vessel that may have been there since the day I was born that had just been getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

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Ali Davidson: and so I had to brain surgery which I had, and I'm better, and they're shrinking.

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Ali Davidson: But now I know the reason, because if I hadn't had that car accident I'd be dead.

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Ali Davidson: I mean 100%. That's what the doctor said. You would be dead right now if you hadn't had that surgery. So

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Ali Davidson: it there's it's always.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's there's always a journey, and you just never know what's gonna pop up and say, Hey.

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Ali Davidson: Right?

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Ali Davidson: Yeah, I know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Here you go!

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Ali Davidson: Love life because of that, because

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Ali Davidson: it's funny, because some people create their own chaos.

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Ali Davidson: and they don't even realize that. Well, you know.

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Ali Davidson: you're choosing that you're choosing to create that. And you know somebody will say, well, so are you saying that someone murders someone that it's an experience. And like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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Ali Davidson: It's an interesting.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And and what's even more profound, I think people make these contracts before they come here.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so it's nothing is a surprise.

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Ali Davidson: Right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To God.

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Ali Davidson: And God. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To, you know. So when things happen that we perceive as Oh, that's terrible horrible, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's that's the agreement that was made. I.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have a more personal experience that, and things are changing, but it's

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: my my oldest. I have 5 children. So my oldest daughter was going through a period where she wasn't speaking to me or her father. She just. She decided that we were terrible people, or for whatever reason she just

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: she just cut off communication with us and in all fairness. I think she's got some issues that she's she's working on, but

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: she needs help. But she's

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: she's a perfectly functional human being, I mean, she's got a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: great heart. She's an amazing mom. And she's funny as the day is long.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: She just like she's just made these decisions about her relationship with me that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: are are kind of hurtful on my from my perspective.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So I think that we had made this agreement before she came here

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that this was going to happen. It's just the trajectory of the experiences that we both agreed that we were going to have in this life. But instead of just being like Oh, she's a terrible person, and I'll never speak to her again. I'm just like I'm just going to wait.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes, I acknowledge to myself this hurts at some points, but

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it doesn't make her any less of an amazing human being, because this is the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: place she's going through, and it doesn't mean that I have to be like mad at her or whatever, because I'm just not. I just realized that this is, and I didn't get here like the day after it happened. Trust me on this. It was a process. But if we can look at things like that. Instead of saying, Oh, my God, I'm the victim, and my life sucks, and nothing's ever going to be better. Well, that's just simply not true, because nothing is always.

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Ali Davidson: Right or never right. They're just the experience we're having now.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. Next 10 min it could be something different.

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Ali Davidson: I love the story that Neil Donald Walsh tells of the little soul. Have you ever heard it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: - tell us that one.

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Ali Davidson: So there's a little soul up in heaven, and he's looking down at Earth at all these little, all these beings, these humans having all these experience, and he says, God, God, I want to go down there. I want to do that. I want to see what that feels like. And God says.

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Ali Davidson: Well, okay, you can do that. But you have to understand that

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Ali Davidson: in order for you to have those experiences, you have to find somebody here who will agree to be your enemy, who will agree to be your adversary, who will agree to put problems in front of you, because that's the experiences to have that right, because you already know what love is.

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Ali Davidson: and and the little soul goes. But everybody here loves me.

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Ali Davidson: And he says, Yeah, they do. And then another soul who overheard this, said.

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Ali Davidson: I'll do this for you. I'll go down there and be your adversary. And the little soul was all happy, and he says, but only on one condition. If you promise that at some point you will remember that I really do love you.

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Ali Davidson: and I love that story. Right? So now I have to.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's making me cry.

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Ali Davidson: I know it's such a beautiful story. So now I'm going to tell you a story for my life, and how this showed up.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay.

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Ali Davidson: So when I was 34 years old, I moved from one State to another State, came to this little town, and met this young other young mother and our kids were in the same classes, and we got to know each other and found out that both our fathers were named Peter.

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Ali Davidson: Both of them had passed, both had

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Ali Davidson: abused and molested us right? So we had this bond of understanding what it was like to have that kind of childhood.

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Ali Davidson: and we went and heard Neil Donald Walsh's little soul story.

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Ali Davidson: And we looked at each other, and we both said, Oh, my God! Our fathers

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Ali Davidson: were the contract! That was the contract to have that experience so that we could see what it was like. It did things to us as a human right that gave.

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Ali Davidson: And so we became friends fast forward. We raised our kids together. I got divorced. I got remarried. She was in my wedding, I mean, we were like sisters. We were there together every day. The kids were like cousins. 25 years later I find out that she and my husband had been having an affair right under my nose for a year.

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Ali Davidson: and I find out about this, of course, and it devastates me, and it puts me through the dark night of the soul. And that's from there I wrote the book born of Betrayal, and it was all about this betrayal and on both levels. And you know, my best friend and my husband, the 2 people I trusted the most in my world. The 2 people I would have gone to when something bad happened to me. Bad, right they were it.

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Ali Davidson: and I tried to talk with her several times, and she wouldn't talk to me. She never left her husband. I divorced mine. I moved away, and a year later, and during that time I knew

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Ali Davidson: I had to be with her. I knew the minute I saw her I would love her all over again, right, and but she wasn't ready for that, because she didn't love herself for what she had done, and had to go through a year's worth of counseling herself to live with what she'd done, and figure out why.

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Ali Davidson: and it's in the book I can't remember which chapter, but it's a whole chapter about forgiveness, and how this showed up by these little synchronistic events that were not supposed to happen, but did. And there we were in front of each other.

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Ali Davidson: And she said, I can't talk to you now. I'll call you later, because there were people waiting. And I said, Okay, and then I just opened up my arms

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Ali Davidson: and she fell into my arms, and immediately we're both crying, and we're holding each other, and she is apologizing. And I am like.

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Ali Davidson: it's okay. It's okay. I love you. I never stopped loving you because you and I spent 25 years of our life together. I couldn't. If I couldn't love you anymore, I would have had to negate all of those years of my life, and I didn't want that to happen. I wanted to be able to remember the stories and not be in pain.

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Ali Davidson: And so, you know, I'm holding her. I forgive her. We're like forehead to forehead, and then she pulls away, and she looks up.

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Ali Davidson: Me out of a very unhappy marriage. It helped me to understand betrayal on such a different level that it is no, is not about infidelity. It's about disloyalty, it's about putting yourself last, which women do all the time.

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Ali Davidson: Right, and and I was able to see how betrayal was happening throughout my life. And this was the epitome right. And I remember one particular day when he came to see me before we actually got divorced, and I looked at him, and I said, Oh, my God! You didn't have a choice, and he goes. You know he's a narcissist, and he goes. What do you mean? And I said, Well, you had to do what you did. You had to betray me because

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Ali Davidson: I had to have you do this in order for me to leave, and he goes. See, I knew it wasn't that bad. And I'm like, yeah, so okay.

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Ali Davidson: He is a little soul. And he and I said, You're my other little soul. This was my experience, because

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Ali Davidson: I have a very special mission, and this will take us now to where I'm going. In this this new reinvention of my life, between

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Ali Davidson: that devastation and the previous financial devastation, and then rebuilding myself and writing this book and what it does. And it was like my own kind of version of therapy, because I would write a chapter, and then I'd put it away, and then I'd open again. I'd read that chapter and I'd write another chapter. So it was several years in the making, because I wanted to document my patterns and my growth and my insights.

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Ali Davidson: And then I came to the understanding that my job was not to help people to understand betrayal, but to understand loyalty, and how to be loyal to themselves, because

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Ali Davidson: they don't have anybody who sees to help her. A good man will help a woman recognize. Oh, you need to be loyal to yourself right now right, she will explode, and then she becomes the bitch. She becomes an angry bitchy, you know, woman, and that's what

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Ali Davidson: since religion organized religion came in and decided that, you know, Eve caused all the problems.

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Ali Davidson: but she is the warrior right, and she will die defending her children. She will die defending her man, you know, he will also do that for her

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Ali Davidson: and then union the sacred Union, which is what Mary Magdalene and Jesus were about this sacred union of their divine, fully Divine Person, and fully human persons coming together and teaching that unity, that that love and unity, consciousness

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Ali Davidson: And we don't have to do it with wars. We don't have to do it through

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Ali Davidson: anything but love. And and we can start with just our little communities. And the more love and more unity, the more we see other people

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I feel it coming, and it's not just we talk about the divine feminine. And I think sometimes guys hear that. And they're like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know, what about us? Well, men and women have both. We are not like, we're not 2 halves that come together. I'm sorry you're a whole human being. You have everything you need to be enough.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and as soon as we in it we talk about women primarily, because women for centuries have just felt like they weren't enough. They were chattel for the longest time. I mean, really, up until the eighties.

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Ali Davidson: Wasn't until the seventies that women were allowed to have credit cards, but just in their name, not in their husband's name.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They couldn't have any debt in their own name, because they couldn't support themselves, used to go to college in order to find a husband that was of a certain caliber that could support them, and fathers would pay the dowry that fathers paid was a college tuition

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And and now, you know, universities are mostly female. I don't know if you're aware of this, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and women aren't looking to get married because they're just expected to do it all. So if you're expected to do everything. What the hell do you need a guy for.

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Ali Davidson: But you see, that's and that's the key here. I because I thought about this too. And I used to teach this.

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Ali Davidson: and so there was an extended family. A woman and a man in a marriage were never expected to meet every single need. If you go back through history right? The villages the women would gather, and the men would gather, because there are certain things that only men can have with men, and only women can have with women. But when the Industrial Revolution came specifically in this country and companies where the whole town worked for.

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Ali Davidson: moved families were separated, and that is when things really shifted, because suddenly that woman who was home with kids had no break. There was nobody else to help her. That man who needed assistance to build his barn or to do didn't have the other men around. So the dependence on the nuclear family became so strong

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Ali Davidson: which is when we started to see things break down in marriages. Right now you add to that that we also had 2 world wars in which many, many men went and died, and in order for this country to continue, women had to come out of the kitchen and into the factories to work to support the war.

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Ali Davidson: And that's when schools went from a 1 school house, you know, with everybody the same age to elementary school and junior high and high school.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Was babysitting. Yes, you needed some place to send your kids.

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Ali Davidson: To send your kids right. And that's how it all developed all through that period, right? And then, when the men came back, the women were expected to just go back into that role of house mother Kitten, and she had experienced something in herself, some autonomy that up to that point she never had.

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Ali Davidson: And so we've come a long way. Baby, right it was, it was, and then it was sold to us that was sold to us that you can do anything you could actually go to.

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Ali Davidson: Can have it all. You can be that sexy woman dressed perfect for your man when he comes home, and be that businesswoman, and take care of the kids and do it all. And we bought into it, especially our generation. Right? We were really the 1st ones who bought in 100%.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We took them on fancy vacations. We made sure that we got them involved in a lot of fun stuff. We gave them all kinds of toys. We lessened our rules and our expectations. And we created another generation of problems right? And at the same time, we're still having divorces. So now, it's also families are being torn apart. So they don't even have that stability anymore. And that's a whole. Another generation of kids who are like, what's it all for?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: so many of their their friends. Parents would get divorced. Unfortunately, my ex-husband and I

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: had a fairly amicable divorce. We never went to court. We I just like I left the kids with him. I gave him the house. I took all the bills, and I left. I had to leave. He was an alcoholic at the time.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Curtis is there. We do stuff together, my current husband. They get along. Great. We have fun with the grandkids, but it

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: so many people pivot the kids against the other parent. And those kids were just like, you know.

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Ali Davidson: And a lot of men, unfortunately, were not equipped, because again.

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Ali Davidson: one of the things that we, as women did when we stepped out into the business world into working is that we? We took our feminine side and put her on a shelf while we went to work, and we stepped into our masculine energy. Right?

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Ali Davidson: That's the active directive goal, oriented, less relational. So that we could do this job which actually changed our physiology and put us in the high risk of heart disease that we never had before this time period.

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Ali Davidson: And and we started forgetting, when we went home that in order to be in a relationship with our husbands, we had to let that masculine side. Go down and bring that feminine back up. But we were exhausted because we didn't just work outside the home. We also came home. And yeah, you know, like my 1st husband, my husband's

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Ali Davidson: helped cook the meals. They helped give babies baths, but that's not where the energy is. The energy is in organizing the lunches and figuring out what to make for dinner, and making the shopping list and making sure they get their homework done, and making sure that they go to the doctor. It's all of that you still are the manager of the home. So we ended up buying into a big

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Ali Davidson: They didn't feel strong anymore. They didn't feel like they had direction that they could be a man they could protect. And so all of this is part of that patriarchy right?

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Ali Davidson: What it will do is heal men's ability to do the same. And that's why I think it's what what he was saying, what the Dalai Lama was saying. That's why women have to take the mantle and heal themselves. We're raising the next generation of men

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Ali Davidson: and who, because of that system that isn't there to support them, and they're lost. They get angry. And we've seen what happens when that happens, angry young men make angry decisions

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Ali Davidson: it is really, really important. And that's why I feel like this is, my mission is to help women to understand.

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Ali Davidson: And so the minute they get into a relationship they lose themselves. And then that's why they leave. It's happened to me many, many times.

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Ali Davidson: and so I know a lot of women, my age, who are divorced, who have are choosing not to be in relationship.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: yeah relationship. I I love him to death. And we've we've been able to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because we give each other space. And we we've come to terms on people's responsibilities, and we don't try to play the victim. I could tell you a funny story just this out this morning we were. We were both in the kitchen because we like to cook food at the same time, but we don't necessarily eat the same things.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because he was a truck driver for 28 years, so he was only home for 3 days at a time, and I would wait on him hand and foot. But now that he's been retired. It's like, you know

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we had. We make our own ice cubes. We don't have an Automatic Ice Maker, and he uses all the ice cubes. So I taught him how to make ice, and he was, and to grate cheese because I don't like to buy grated cheese, because I think that they put chemicals on it, and I don't think that's good for you. So he was grating cheese, and I taught him how to grate cheese into the bag so that it doesn't get all over the place, and he's like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, I said, yes, and you're the only one who ever makes ice cubes these days, too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I was trying to be the victim. How like I'm in! I'm in! I'm empowering you, honey.

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Ali Davidson: And humor is a very important piece of relationship, too, you know. Yeah, yeah.

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Ali Davidson: So if I see someone who is dressed different or has different color skin. They're going to pop out to me because they're different than me.

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Ali Davidson: That difference doesn't make them wrong or bad. It's just different, but because we want to belong. That's another very strong internal yearning. It's something

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And not having to be the best at everything, just loving yourself for who you are, and appreciating what your gifts are, and being the best you can at that, and if you aren't the best at something else, find somebody who is, and praise them up and down, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: yeah, and let them be the best at it. You, the this whole everybody needs to make A's thing is bullshit.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Need to make A's in one thing that thing you're gifted at, and it should be easy for you right? And if it's easy for you. You're on the right track. If you're struggling.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Do something, find out what it is. That's easy for you. Do that.

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Ali Davidson: Do that right, because that's where your talent is. That's where your passion is. That's where you become.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Sure he I do.

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Ali Davidson: What you're here to do right, and we hold ourselves back a lot from that. And why? Because we don't want to stand out too much. We want to belong, and if I stand out too much, people aren't going to trust me. People aren't going to believe that I am who I say I am. But the truth of is, I'm

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Ali Davidson: that's where forgiveness is such a cool thing. Because and where I again, that's in my book. How I came to understand forgiveness and loving yourself

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Ali Davidson: And I I did an article or a talk I can't remember which, where I said. You don't need to forgive them

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes, condoning, excusing is the word I was looking for. But like we aren't taught to excuse people when they hurt you, we're taught to forgive them. And that's

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and the meaning to excuse means that you are allowing them grace.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you're going to allow that to continue. It's a 1 time thing, and I'm giving you Grace, you know. Please don't do it again.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When a child hits another child, you should tell them to say, Excuse me.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Rather than I forgive you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because you don't want to forgive that. That's that's not forgivable. It's excusable, but not forgivable. Forgiveness is coming to terms with something for yourself.

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Ali Davidson: It's naturally extended to everybody else. It doesn't make what he did any different. That was true. He did those things. I'm sorry he did those things because he's the one who has to live with the fact that he did them.

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Ali Davidson: right. So, loving myself, I got to go back to my values and say, Well, you know my I value honesty.

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Ali Davidson: you know, or a day spot that is not loving you. That's just another agenda on your list.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can. You can put meditation in there with that, too, because oftentimes people are made to feel guilty because they won't sit for 20 min and meditate.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's a gift you can give yourself or not. Give yourself, and it doesn't make you a good person or a bad person. No, and.

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Ali Davidson: which is what meditation is right and just experiencing what I'm seeing. So it doesn't have to be 20 min sitting in one place. It could be walking in nature it could be. It could be laying in your bed and praying. It could be like me, journaling it could be. When you dance, you feel it. You're just, you're not. You're between the thoughts, that's all. Meditation is between thoughts.

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Ali Davidson: because we are you and you are us. It is you talking to you, but it's the wiser, loving, united part of you, and when you get that information, you will know that it's from that part, because it always feels good.

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Ali Davidson: Oh, that's not an add brain. It's not even my brain injury. It is spirit saying, Go, do that right. Now, go, do that right. I know you're busy with this, but something's going to happen. If you don't go do that right now. And I just so I go do it. And I'm like, I feel this relief like, yeah, okay, that was good. And then I can go back to. So it is them talking to us all the time, and they're guiding us all the time, too. You know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Have really a lot, one more piece, and then.

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Ali Davidson: and we'll talk about how people can get in touch with you so they can have their own personal conversation with you and loving themselves. But.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to your guides, your your inner guidance, the things that you just suddenly know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: or you're asking questions. If you're looking around, if you're paying attention, the universe will will answer you, and and sometimes they'll just have fun with you. I've I've had a time. When I was

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I was talking to God, and it was just like something was going on. I was talking to trying to talk to elementals. It was in my backyard. And I'm like, Okay, rain. I want. I want it to rain like right now, and there wasn't

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: like hardly any clouds in the sky, and it rained. I promise you it rained.

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Ali Davidson: Have a good one.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For like 10 min, and then it went away. But it was just this little circle over where I was standing. It wasn't even 10 min. It was maybe like 30 seconds, but it was definitely rain, and it was definitely right there it was just it was just

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Ali Davidson: Amazing.

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Ali Davidson: I love that stuff. I play with cards all the time, and I have one particular deck. It's called the Archangel Oracle Deck, and I pull an archangel every day.

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Ali Davidson: I was getting ready to pull it, and I was. You know how you split the cards before you, yeah. And I split it. And I saw this one angel I'm like, Oh, it's going to be you that's going to show up today. I just know it. I mixed everything up, laid out the 44 cards, and then I just closed my eyes, and I let my finger and the energy from my finger guide me, and I pull it out. And sure enough, it's Azrael who is

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Ali Davidson: And you know you get that. You always go. I'm not sure I want to experience this right now. But anyway, he came through about. It's about transitions and that you are in a transition. I'm like, Okay, that's the message. I get that.

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Ali Davidson: And if you know anybody who is suffering from a loss. Just tell them I have wrapped my arm, my wings around him. And so I put the card down.

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Ali Davidson: And I'm like, Okay, well, I don't really know anybody who's experiencing, you know, right right now, grief.

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Ali Davidson: I didn't hear from her until that night, and she called me and said, I can't believe that you

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Ali Davidson: in his wings of comfort? Right? And I'm like, Oh, goosebumps, you know, like this is the magic of life. I love that magic.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's available to everybody. It's not like, we're some special people. It's just.

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Ali Davidson: You just have to be willing to see it, and that's where the child's eyes look at the world through the eyes of curiosity and wonder, and you know, and let yourself experience those things where you just ask yourself. You know what would really be fun for me today. And there's times when it's like

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Ali Davidson: to go sit on the swing like that little part of me just wants to sit on the swing and go as high as possible, you know, or just have ice cream, or like I go to the beach, and I'll get lost in that world like looking for shells and stones, and you know, and just in this very childlike wonderment that just.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Perfect.

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Ali Davidson: We do have, we do? It's so. It's just. It's a very thin veil.

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Ali Davidson: and live there even when shitty things are happening to you right, even when shitty things are happening to you. I mean, I went through a breakup.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Especially when this shitty things are happening to you.

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Ali Davidson: You know. I mean, I had this injury, my brain. I lost all my money. I'm I'm just coming back online again, where I feel like. Yes, I can think I could help people again, because I wasn't going to try to help. I can't even think, you know.

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Ali Davidson: And I was in a relationship with a man who showed up right at the right time when I needed someone to be there to care for me. And it was magical the way he was there. But over the years I started getting better and better and better the better I got the angrier he was, because it wasn't what he wanted. He wanted me to be, not okay. So he.

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Ali Davidson: Boss of that, you know. And so I had to leave, and so again another loss. And yet

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Ali Davidson: I am honestly the happiest. I have been in a really, really, really long time.

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Ali Davidson: of what's important and who I am, and you know who the people who are in my life. They, every one of them, are blessings for me to experience me as the God I am.

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Ali Davidson: I am 2 magic words.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They are magic words, and you should always attach empowering things behind them.

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Ali Davidson: That's right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So how do you help people? Do you have like a coaching program? Do you do it? One on one? Do you do it in groups. How does all that look.

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Ali Davidson: I do. Well, I'm just honestly just getting back into and so still creating my collateral behind. So the best way for people to get in touch with me is to go to my current website, and that's Ali Davidson Life Academy. And you'll see the different things that I have been doing. I'm adding a whole another level of stuff. But in everyone it's a click that says, Talk to me. Let's talk so.

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Ali Davidson: The best thing is for them to have a 30 min discovery. Call with me, in which we just get to know each other. Kind of like this, and figure out, where is it that you are right now, where is it you want to go? And then what's the best way for you to do it? How will it be the easiest and the most affordable, and all of that. So yes, I do. One-on-one coaching. I have a 6 month program.

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Ali Davidson: I have a 3 month program.

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Ali Davidson: I'm in the process right now of developing. It's really going to be fun a 40 day.

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Ali Davidson: which is like 6 weeks, really 40 day self loyalty, recovery, Kit. So it's it's a self

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Ali Davidson: doing program, right? So they'll get videos and lessons and stuff like that. And then I'm also doing one. That's a combination.

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Ali Davidson: So it's a shorter coaching period. It's a 6 week one-on-one coaching, but the pieces of that are in it, too. So they get a lot of extra things to do in between. I eventually do want to have a group and just

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Ali Davidson: do that where it's just a group. And every week we meet, and I give you what shows up. You know, I'm always developing some new tool or some new concept. And but it's going to take a while to build something big enough that it makes sense to do it. So in the meantime they can subscribe to my sub stack.

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Ali Davidson: There's the free mode, and then there's the next level, which is really inexpensive and and just become part of my community. Find me on Facebook and and then do this discovery call and see if there's something we can do to work together.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Sounds awesome, and you also offer how good are you to yourself? It's a quiz and a guide.

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Ali Davidson: Yeah, it's called the self-awareness, self-betrayal awareness quiz, and

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Ali Davidson: it introduces the concept that betrayal is more than just. Infidelity. Betrayal is a broken promise, agreement or expectation, whether it's spoken or unspoken, and when that occurs and we know it does think about oh, he stabbed me in the back, or my boss.

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Ali Davidson: you know, ruined my vacation, I mean all these are betrayals. My body, my body not being my brain not being able to work, was a betrayal. It was a loss and an unexpected thing. Right? Those are all betrayals. And and in that is the secret to

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Ali Davidson: changing your view that you can't be loyal to yourself. So it's an interesting little quiz. I've had a lot of people take it, and they're like, Wow.

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Ali Davidson: you know, I didn't think of it like this. And like this. And like this, like, yeah. And so, yeah, but I don't have. I don't have that link set up quite yet.

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Ali Davidson: So if they do a discovery call with me, I'll give it to them because I'll have their email, and I can send it. Or if someone wants to private message me through Facebook or whatever they they can actually get my email and email. Me, I'm happy to send that, too. So yeah, it's.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Perfect.

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Ali Davidson: Also have a self-care quiz that's also pretty good, with like a little bit different. Look at things so they could have that, too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Perfect.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you so much for joining us today.

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Ali Davidson: It was my pleasure. You're wonderful. I love you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love Youtube so

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to learn more about Ali and to take the are you good to yourself? Quiz, and to get the guide that goes with it. Please visit alliedavidsonlifeacademy.com. And you can also connect with Allie through that website, and we'll be sure and put those links in the show notes below. Thank you for tuning in with us today. If you have a podcast or you're interested in starting one to get your message in front of our huge and active audience. Be sure to reach out to us at jill@gnostictv.com.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We love to help spiritual entrepreneurs and coaches amplify their voice and monetize their mission and offer a variety of ways to do this on the Gnostic TV network platform.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Please join us again for our next episode as we share what others are doing to raise the global frequency. And remember.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: change begins with you. You have all the power to change the world, start today and get visible.