today I'm going to talk about chronic gut symptoms if you're asking
Vesna:yourself, why am I still bloated?
Vesna:Or why do I still have heartburn?
Vesna:This is the episode for you.
Vesna:If you have chronic gut symptoms, these long term symptoms of bloating, heartburn,
Vesna:reflux, pain in your gut, whatever it is, but something that's been with
Vesna:you for a long time and you feel like you've thrown everything at it, right?
Vesna:You've done the gut work, the supplements, the probiotics, the gut function tests
Vesna:and changed your diet and everything still feels like it's at the same point.
Vesna:Then in this episode, I really want to share with you what are the things
Vesna:that I've noticed about this in my own personal journey and that of my
Vesna:clients and over the last 20 years about what can make a significant
Vesna:difference to these symptoms for you.
Vesna:So many years ago when I went through my burnout journey,
Vesna:I had severe gut bloating.
Vesna:I always looked like I was about six months pregnant.
Vesna:I had a lot of food intolerances.
Vesna:I remember going to another practitioner to get a food intolerance test and she
Vesna:was like, I've never seen anyone with this many food intolerances, right?
Vesna:And I knew it because whatever I ate, created discomfort and
Vesna:there was a very limited amount of food that I could eat and enjoy.
Vesna:And actually on my food intolerance test, what came back was the
Vesna:only thing that I wasn't allergic to or intolerant to was meat.
Vesna:So chicken, meat, fish, everything else was giving me a reaction.
Vesna:And I wasn't surprised because I knew I had such bad gut symptoms that my
Vesna:gut was going to react to everything.
Vesna:Right.
Vesna:But.
Vesna:Maybe like you, I went through and I did all the gut work, I took all the
Vesna:supplements, the probiotics, the enzymes, the hydrochloric acid to help with protein
Vesna:breakdown, and did all this gut repair work, but it wasn't making any difference,
Vesna:and I was stuck in this place for five years and had these chronic symptoms that
Vesna:got so much of my attention, caused so much frustration for me because I felt
Vesna:so uncomfortable, I felt like I couldn't fit into my clothes, and by the end of
Vesna:the day, everything was distended, right?
Vesna:And again, I was stuck in this cycle for five years.
Vesna:Now, the shift for me came when, I had stress that passed, right?
Vesna:So I was in a relationship that I was unhappy with, and when that relationship
Vesna:ended, I found myself, I went to my mum's and I stayed with my mum for a while
Vesna:and I was eating foods that I hadn't been able to eat in like five years like
Vesna:pasta, bread, rice, all these foods that I hadn't been able to touch in years and
Vesna:they weren't giving me any discomfort.
Vesna:So this completely blew my mind.
Vesna:I couldn't understand what was happening here and how that change
Vesna:went from one week to the next.
Vesna:Now I'm not saying leave your relationship or your job or anything like that, but I
Vesna:came to realize that the stress and the
Vesna:cortisol that my body was producing
Vesna:was preventing my gut from healing even though I took all the right supplements
Vesna:and did all the right things for my gut, it was preventing my gut from healing.
Vesna:So in this episode, I really want to share with you what moves the needle, what
Vesna:really makes a difference, particularly if you have chronic gut symptoms.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:I have clients that when they come to me, they have anxiety
Vesna:about their gut symptoms, right?
Vesna:They are so concerned by them one because they're persistent and other
Vesna:because they feel like it could be something more sinister going on
Vesna:there that hasn't been detected yet.
Vesna:So it creates a lot of anxiety and a lot more tension for them.
Vesna:So number one, what I recommend, what I've seen, you've got
Vesna:to do the gut work, right?
Vesna:That's one thing.
Vesna:Like I had done the gut work for five years and then when my stress
Vesna:reduced, it was so accelerated and that's why I had that effect, right?
Vesna:So doing the gut work, I talked about this in episode eight.
Vesna:I really talked about.
Vesna:You know, creating the right pH inside the gut, removing any unwanted bacteria,
Vesna:repopulating the good bacteria, repairing the gut lining, and all of that.
Vesna:So all of that process needs to happen in order to create a really
Vesna:healthy environment inside the gut.
Vesna:The next thing is reducing cortisol.
Vesna:So this is anything that raises your cortisol other than your job
Vesna:relationship or your finances, okay?
Vesna:Just don't try to work on those.
Vesna:What you want to do is reduce anything that stimulates
Vesna:your cortisol in other areas.
Vesna:Your diet, your sleep, your caffeine, your missing meals, your sugar.
Vesna:Going to bed after 10 p.
Vesna:m., having too many carbs, not having enough protein.
Vesna:All of these things would trigger too much cortisol.
Vesna:And what we do in my program, in my work, is that we, we use all of these hacks,
Vesna:to change the biochemistry in the body, to reduce the cortisol, to switch the
Vesna:body out of that fight or flight mode.
Vesna:And therefore, You can enter the healing state and things happen
Vesna:more quickly than more accelerated.
Vesna:And so instead of trying to overhaul your life, what you want to do is
Vesna:implement these dietary and lifestyle hacks in order to kind of trick your
Vesna:body into reducing cortisol levels and that way your body can start to heal.
Vesna:The other big factor in reducing cortisol is mental stress I've talked about this
Vesna:a few times in these podcast episodes.
Vesna:The mental stress is the stuff that we carry around all day long, the
Vesna:worry, catastrophes that we make in our mind, all of this stuff.
Vesna:Drips up our fight or flight response, and it has this slow drip, drip,
Vesna:drip of cortisol all day long.
Vesna:So we need to look at that area as well, without having to overhaul our
Vesna:life, but reducing our mental stress.
Vesna:Our gut is connected to our brain by the gut brain axis.
Vesna:So it's not a surprise that I see people who have gut
Vesna:symptoms like I did at the time.
Vesna:And it created a lot of thinking for me, right?
Vesna:It created a lot of anxiety.
Vesna:But it kind of becomes like a catch 22.
Vesna:So what I see in the third thing, which is probably the really big thing
Vesna:to focus on, or to have awareness of, is this hyper vigilant thinking.
Vesna:So I see people with chronic gut symptoms.
Vesna:always assessing where they're at.
Vesna:Is it a good day?
Vesna:Is it a bad day?
Vesna:They're measuring, is it better?
Vesna:Is it worse?
Vesna:They're thinking about it.
Vesna:What should I try next?
Vesna:Why isn't it working?
Vesna:I've tried that already.
Vesna:Why aren't I getting better?
Vesna:They're Googling symptoms.
Vesna:There's this constant conversation in the head, There's this,
Vesna:you know, hypervigilant thinking about their symptoms.
Vesna:So I will see this In clients when, one day they'll be so worried about their
Vesna:symptoms, and then they'll be quiet for two days, and then it sparks up again.
Vesna:So, you know, when I talk about hypervigilant thinking, yes, we
Vesna:can get some thinking about it, but it's the thinking that creates
Vesna:the tension, the anxiety, where, It starts to overtake our mind.
Vesna:Like we can't get it off our mind and we think about it
Vesna:every day or every second day.
Vesna:Right.
Vesna:And so it's always coming back up and it's the same thinking.
Vesna:Why isn't it working?
Vesna:Why aren't I getting better?
Vesna:What should I try next?
Vesna:I've tried that.
Vesna:Why isn't that working?
Vesna:It's the same kind of thinking all the time.
Vesna:Now, the reason why this is so key to improving chronic gut symptoms
Vesna:is because, because of that gut brain connection, okay, we know
Vesna:that through the vagus nerve.
Vesna:But the other part is, is that when we get that hypervigilant thinking, we get like
Vesna:that because we don't want the symptoms.
Vesna:We want them to pass.
Vesna:We want them gone.
Vesna:And so there's a unacceptance of the symptoms, right?
Vesna:And it's a resistance to the symptoms and that resistance creates tension and
Vesna:that tension is like war in our body.
Vesna:We go to war with our bodies like that, right?
Vesna:And we're just keeping ourselves in a perpetual state of stress.
Vesna:So the very thing that's keeping those symptoms there, which is being
Vesna:stressed out of the healing mode and into the fight or flight mode, the very
Vesna:thing that's keeping those symptoms there is Also the thing that you're
Vesna:triggering throughout the day when you're thinking about your gut symptoms a lot.
Vesna:So this is a very tricky one because sometimes people don't notice it.
Vesna:So sometimes when I speak to a client, they'll be like, Oh yeah, I do that.
Vesna:I a hundred percent do that.
Vesna:And sometimes for people, it's so normal to have that script, that
Vesna:story running in their head all day long, but they don't really notice it.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:And so sometimes it takes a conversation to see that.
Vesna:But I can tell you that when you've had chronic gut symptoms, That
Vesna:conversation is there, that constant assessment and that hyper vigilance
Vesna:is there because the chronic stress is keeping it there, that tension, that
Vesna:unacceptance of where you're at, right?
Vesna:So I'll often say to clients, why can't you accept the bloating for now, right?
Vesna:What's stopping you from accepting that?
Vesna:acceptance is not giving up.
Vesna:Acceptance is being at peace.
Vesna:with where you're at.
Vesna:And sometimes our body creates symptoms because it wants to get our attention
Vesna:to navigate us in a different direction.
Vesna:But if we're in resistance mode, we can't hear any of that, right?
Vesna:And the symptoms persist and persist and persist, right?
Vesna:I want to give you an example because I often talk about this
Vesna:because this is a really good one.
Vesna:like I noticed that when I travel, when I go on holidays and it's summertime
Vesna:and if I go somewhere tropical or if I go to Europe in the summer.
Vesna:Europe in the summer these days is very hot.
Vesna:And, uh, the last time we went away, we went to Thailand and we went to Europe.
Vesna:And both times it was so hot.
Vesna:And I have this thing where when I'm hot, I feel the heat a lot.
Vesna:And ever since I was a kid.
Vesna:And, uh, so when it's hot and I start to feel hot, I'm like, Oh my goodness,
Vesna:it's so hot, it's so hot, it's so hot.
Vesna:And of course, it's My temperature rises every time I'm thinking it and saying
Vesna:it and I'm often saying it, right?
Vesna:Where the people around me are like, stop you're making me hot, right?
Vesna:And so that is hypervigilance.
Vesna:I can't get my mind of it because I'm so hot.
Vesna:It's unbearable for me.
Vesna:Yet, the constant thinking and focusing on it is driving up my temperature even more
Vesna:because I'm in a state of stress, right?
Vesna:It's a mini state of stress, but in a state of stress, it's driving
Vesna:up my temperature even more.
Vesna:It's making me hotter.
Vesna:So I'm sweating.
Vesna:I'm sweating.
Vesna:Right?
Vesna:And then I'm like, why am I sweating so much?
Vesna:I don't want to be sweating this much.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:Driving more thinking, raising my temperature even more.
Vesna:So that's a really, really good example of how quickly we can create our symptoms.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:Yeah.
Vesna:I was hot without the anxiety, without the hypervigilance.
Vesna:I handle that heat much better.
Vesna:I've caught myself in a few moments, it hasn't been many.
Vesna:That is something that I still battle with, but I have caught myself in moments
Vesna:where I don't have thinking around it.
Vesna:And I just feel hot and I'm okay.
Vesna:But it's most often that I will have hyper vigilant thinking.
Vesna:I don't want to feel hot.
Vesna:I don't want to start sweating.
Vesna:And so I'm resisting it, and of course, all of those scenarios happen.
Vesna:And my recommendation is, you know, obviously do the gut work, do the
Vesna:things to reduce cortisol and be aware of your hypervigilant thinking and
Vesna:come to a place where you can coexist.
Vesna:with those symptoms until your body's in a place where it can resolve it.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:If you do the groundwork, like the gut work and the reducing the cortisol,
Vesna:that's the foundational stuff.
Vesna:But so is reducing that hypervigilant thinking come to a place of acceptance
Vesna:and your body will take care of the rest.