1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,480 Welcome to podcast answers, the show where I help you start and grow your podcast answering 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:23,600 any podcasting questions along with that's right. I'm here to help you create, grow your 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,680 podcast and answer your questions because that's the name of the show podcast answers. 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:35,560 So guys, welcome back. It has been an exciting couple of weeks. There is into news. There 5 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:43,080 is a couple of things going on. There's a new site called episodes.fm. And the thing 6 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:50,920 that I like about episodes.fm is it is great to be able to show your it's a quick links 7 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:58,840 for your podcast. So what you do is you go into episodes.fm and you type in the name 8 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:05,160 of your podcast and it pulls up and it shows a list of all of the apps that you can listen 9 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:11,200 in. And then the nice thing about it is it actually sorts by device that you're on. So 10 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:17,720 if you're on an Apple device, it shows device, it shows apps that are Apple devices or Apple 11 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,440 devices can use and then it shows them also by popularity and alphabetical. So you get 12 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,800 it is by popularity if you're using the OP three prefix. So the nice thing about that 13 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:36,040 is you can easily share that link out to anybody that you want. And then they can see your 14 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:43,560 episode on their device. And so the cool thing is again, because you can send it to them 15 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:51,040 and they can, they can see the, the apps that their device supports. And so that way you 16 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,640 have one link for everybody. It doesn't matter if they're on an Apple device or an Android 17 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:01,720 device. And then one of the cool things about episodes.fm is it also shows your live episodes 18 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,960 too. So if you're doing streaming like we are, and we're using the lit tag with a new 19 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:14,480 podcasting 2.0 features, we are streaming this to lots of different podcast apps. And 20 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,080 if you are, if you can listen right there. And so the cool thing is it shows upcoming 21 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:26,560 live episodes as well as when you are alive. It has a little red icon next to the episode 22 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,560 that's live and a big button that just has listened live. And so that's really cool because 23 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:37,920 you can go and just show, you can listen right on the website or you can go ahead and click 24 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:44,840 and listen to in one of the apps too. So for instance, true fans, CurioCaster, Podverse, 25 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Cass Attic, Fountain and podcast guru, I'll allow you to listen live in the live, you 26 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,520 know, listen to the live audio episode. So we again, we are streaming this live and you 27 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:05,200 can hear that in one of those apps or also in the episodes.fm website. And so that's 28 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,600 really, really cool because again, you can allow any of your listeners to just really, 29 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,760 really easily listen to your live show. So it's really exciting because again, you can 30 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,280 you can pass it along to anybody. You can use that new QR code and say, Hey, listen to 31 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:25,760 our podcast, listen to our podcast and it will then pull up the apps that their device 32 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:32,880 is able to use. And then also if you again, if you were using the OP three stats prefix 33 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:40,240 in your podcast, like we are for this podcast, it also then sorts those apps by popularity. 34 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,800 So if you're, let's say most of your listeners, there's listen on CurioCaster, then it's going 35 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,920 to short that sort that at the top of the list. Whereas, you know, if you only have 36 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,560 a small amount of people listening in an Apple podcast, it's going to put that lower in the 37 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,920 list. 38 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,920 So what are we talking about today? Besides episodes FM, we are going to be talking about 39 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:10,520 editing. So there's lots of different ways to think about editing your podcast. And I 40 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:18,480 do a couple of different actual ways for different podcasts that I edit. So for this 41 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:25,120 episode, for this podcast and for my other podcasts that I record that I'm the host 42 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:35,040 on, I do really no editing. What I do is I just touch up the files a little bit. So 43 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:40,480 I record with a mixer. And so that's why my volume is correct. So for instance, if I'm 44 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,280 playing audio files in here and I have a real low, like I do now, it's low and then 45 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:46,560 I bring it up. 46 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,200 Recording. 47 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:56,360 It's loud. And so all of my volumes are relatively the way that I want them as when they're done. 48 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,240 So for me, I'm thinking of it more of like a radio broadcasting. I'm doing live to tape. 49 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:07,960 I'm not really doing any editing. And that works really well for me, for single episodes, 50 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,680 for single host podcasts, because you, you know how you talk and you can control how 51 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:21,280 you talk. It works really well for other podcasts too that have co-hosts. So as long as you 52 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:27,680 have a good flow and you guys are both really good at podcasting, then it's going to allow 53 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:34,880 you to, to be able to do that well. And, and realistically, it's going to, you know, because 54 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,320 you, you don't really need to do a whole lot of editing if there's not a lot of dead space 55 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:45,760 in the, the podcast or things like that. So for me, what I do is I record with my mixer. 56 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,760 So my volume is correct, like I said, and then I also, when I'm done with it, I normalize 57 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:57,280 the loudness to negative 16 LUFS as I export that from my roadcaster. And you can do that 58 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:02,600 also in your audio editing app. But for me, I'm using a roadcaster. So I normalize that. 59 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,760 So any, any audio that I have is going to be normalized. So it's going to sound essentially 60 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:15,920 at the same loudness as all the other tracks. Then I also compress to, if your mixer does 61 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,400 not do compressing, I have a compressor in it. And what that's going to do is it's essentially 62 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,480 when you have audio recording, you're going to have peaks and you're going to have valleys 63 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,200 and they're going to be highs and lows and highs and lows. And essentially, if you don't 64 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:35,200 do any compressing, your, your listener is going to basically have to ride the volume 65 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,440 because there may be things that are going to be really, really soft and they need to 66 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,520 bring them up so that they can hear them. And then there's going to be things that are 67 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,600 really, really loud that they're going to need to turn down. That way it doesn't blow 68 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,160 their eardrums out as well as their speakers. And so if you compress it, essentially what 69 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:56,760 it does is it just as your audio gets up to a certain level, it starts to level that out. 70 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,520 It takes it down by a ratio and usually that's like a three to one ratio or something like 71 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:09,720 that. And, and so that way you can kind of keep those things more of an even pace if you're 72 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:15,760 looking at the, the waveform. And then you can bring your volume up to the correct level 73 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,560 and it all sounds really good because it's going to be compressed and you're going to 74 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,520 do that. So I, you know, compress it. And then I, I also recorded in multi-track and 75 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,840 even though I don't do a lot of editing and I wouldn't need to do multi-track cause for 76 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,760 me really what I'm doing is I'm just trimming the ends. So when I hit record, I may take 77 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:39,920 a second or two before I actually get the episode going. And so what I do is then I 78 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:46,200 take those ends and trim it off. So it starts almost immediately. I'll leave a little bit 79 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,760 of a blank spot in there just in case another episode of a podcast was ending. You want 80 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,240 to have a little bit of a blank spot in there. So for me, I really don't do editing. I hit 81 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:01,840 stop and I export it, bring it in, do those a few things to it. Like I said, and then 82 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:09,600 I export it out into a MP3 file. I tag it and upload it to my, my host. And then, you 83 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,680 know, really quickly it's ready to go for your listening pleasure. Now the, so again, 84 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,280 that's one style of editing. Another style of editing is light editing. And what I'm 85 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:29,440 saying by that is you're going to pull the major blank spots. So if an episode has, and 86 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:36,240 this happens a lot with, let's say guests, you may have guests that are not super ready 87 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,080 because they may not know what questions you're going to be asking. And so they may take a 88 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:46,920 little bit to think about that. There may be spaces. And so there may be times that it's 89 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,280 five, 10 seconds of space. Well, they think of their response and it doesn't really flow 90 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:58,000 real well for a podcast episode. So what I like to do is I like to pull most of my major 91 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,600 spaces out. And so that way things are more coherent when you ask a question and then 92 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,400 someone answers it. I leave a little bit of a space for someone's response between speakers. 93 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,560 And then I also leave it between sentences. And the reason for that is because you don't 94 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:20,040 want me, the host to ask a question like, so how did you feel when this happened? And 95 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,160 then immediately the person to answer that. So in other words, that would sound like, 96 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,720 how did you feel when the car crash happened? Well, here's what it did. It hurt me a lot. 97 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:36,360 You know, and it doesn't sound natural when you're pulling the, when you're pulling the 98 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:42,760 spaces out so much that there is not any, any space left in that for, for, it doesn't 99 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:53,560 sound natural. And so I leave a second or so between spaces. And so that way between, 100 00:09:53,560 --> 00:10:03,920 between speakers. And so that way they, that way they don't sound unnatural. And so that's, 101 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,720 that's what I do. And then again, at the end of sentences, I leave a little bit of space 102 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:16,240 to that way it's not just one big giant run on thing. So hopefully that makes sense. Now 103 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:25,200 I pull out some of the filler words if I can. So if there is a um, or an ah, or a, you know, 104 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:32,480 or a like, where I can get in there with my razor of an editor and edit that, I do. But 105 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,360 if it's in the middle of a sentence where you're saying something like this um, and 106 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,280 you go on to this and um, you say this thing like that, it's really hard to cut those out 107 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,920 and sound natural. You can, you can try, but a lot of times that's going to be, if, if 108 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:52,280 their ums are running into their words, it's going to be, it's going to have trouble pulling, 109 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:58,200 you're going to have trouble and it won't sound natural. So I would say not all of them 110 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,280 need to be gone. Just some of them to make it sound a little bit cleaner and a little 111 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:08,400 bit more like your guest knows what they're talking about and doesn't sound like they're 112 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,040 just pulling a lot of stuff out of the air. But again, if they're not podcast ready, they're 113 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,680 probably going to have more of those filler words because they're not used to doing podcast 114 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:21,040 and things like that. The another thing that I would do is make sure your volume of your 115 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,280 music is appropriate. So for me, again, I, like I said, I record in multitrack, meaning 116 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:33,000 that I have one recording file for every thing that I'm doing. And so I have a recording 117 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,960 file for my mic. I have a recording file for my music. I have a recording file for my 118 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:45,280 guests. This allows me to take and adjust those if I need to. So for instance, I started 119 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:51,000 my music way too loud as my recording. I could go in and turn that down because I have the 120 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:57,240 ability to do that as well as it makes editing a little bit easier to do because you have 121 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,680 the ability to take and let's say your guest coughed or something and what you were talking, 122 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:07,720 you could mute their track while you were, while you were talking and then you would 123 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:13,960 be able to not hear them cough or interrupt the edit like that. So it gets a cleaner, 124 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:20,680 a cleaner recording in the long run. Then I would also say too is the next kind of editing 125 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:27,520 is full editing. And this is really editing for content. And while I, this is the longest 126 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:35,120 type of thing. This is, you know, I've had podcast interviews where the guests just really 127 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,840 went off the rails and they were talking about some things that didn't make sense. And they 128 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,360 were talking about things that didn't, that weren't really what we wanted to focus on 129 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:51,720 in the podcast episode. And so this is where you, you're editing your content, not just 130 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:56,360 your spaces and kind of doing the light editing. And so this, what I would suggest in this 131 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,280 is listen to your full recording first. So you kind of know where the flow is going. 132 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,040 I got again, this may be different if you were the one and you were the host and you 133 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,760 were there while it was recording, but for me, when I was editing this, I was not the 134 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,880 host of the podcast. And so I didn't know what the episodes sounded like. So for me, 135 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,680 I listened to the full recording first. And so I got an idea of where the conversation 136 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:27,080 went. I also generated a transcript of the audio. And so I could see what the whole flow 137 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:33,240 was like a Word document. And you can use something like Mac whisper or otter.ai or 138 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:39,920 there's an unlimited amount of websites and places and software that you can upload your 139 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:45,000 audio to that will generate a transcript for you so that you can see this. And so what 140 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,520 you can do is then take and mark up your transcript and things you want to keep and 141 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,140 get rid of. And think of it kind of like, like, you know, your teacher did back in the day 142 00:13:53,140 --> 00:13:59,360 when you were in high school or college, your teacher took your paper, marked it up, said, 143 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,320 get rid of this, you know, marked it full of red. You can do that with your podcast audio. 144 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,160 If you've generated a transcript, you can take that and say, no, I don't want this section. 145 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,040 I want to delete this out of this because it doesn't make sense. You can draw arrows 146 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,240 and say, you know, move this content up here. So you got more of a show flow of how you 147 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:23,500 want to actually edit your podcast. And that will allow you to get to go back and actually 148 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:27,640 cleanly kind of get an idea in your head of how you want to move things around if you, 149 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,480 especially if you need to move things around. This gets really tough to do that and just 150 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,440 an audio to try and remember where things are at. And so that's why I would say go ahead 151 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:41,160 and, and, and mark it up. So that way, you know what your content is going to look like 152 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:47,320 in the end. And then you're going to go back and start editing your content for, for, you 153 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,880 know, consistency and things like that. So you may move things around and things like 154 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,320 that. But again, I would say generate your transcript. That's going to be a whole lot 155 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,920 easier when you're editing for content, because you can take that and, and get a high level 156 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:04,520 picture of what your actual content looks like. And then lastly, just kind of some general 157 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,960 things to think about when you're editing in general is get used to the shortcuts in 158 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:18,880 the tool that you use. So for me, I'm using Adobe audition to edit podcasts and I, there's 159 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,720 a lot of different shortcuts in there. So V is just kind of the general select R is 160 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:29,080 going to razor and T is going to time select. And so for me, I know these things really 161 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,520 easy as I'm listening. I can switch back and forth between the tools just by clicking those 162 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,520 shortcuts on the keyboard. So most of the time I'm actually listening in razor mode, 163 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:43,440 because what I'm doing is I'm listening to the audio and then I, I click, if there's 164 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,680 a place I'm going to click a spot out, I click, I stop it, I click, you know, at the end of 165 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:54,920 the word, I move up to the next place that I want to, to actually cut and I, I razor 166 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:01,160 that. And then I just hit command as I select the audio files and then I shift delete, which 167 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,440 then, uh, ripple deletes everything and moves everything to the right of that to the left 168 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,520 as it deletes it. And then, you know, sometimes I need to go into time select mode. And so 169 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,840 let's say I want to mute somebody because my guest is coughing around while I'm talking. 170 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,320 I use the time select mode and I select all of their coughing. And then what I've done 171 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,600 is I've actually mapped a shortcut. So the cool thing about Adobe audition is you can 172 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:29,800 map shortcuts for most of the commands in Adobe edition. So I've mapped a shortcut. 173 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:38,720 It's just option S for silence. And what that does is that takes the audio and it lowers 174 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,520 the volume in that section. So instead of cutting it out, because you don't want to 175 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,560 cut it. I mean, you, you could, you could cut that out and delete the actual audio. 176 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,680 But for me, usually what I do is I just go ahead and silence that with the volume level. 177 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,720 And then I hit control or, you know, just G to, to clear that time selection and continue 178 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:04,080 doing it. So the last thing too that I would say as far as editing goes is, is listen back 179 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,000 to your final product and make sure that it sounds good. If you do too much editing and 180 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,360 you try to cut out things, sometimes that doesn't sound natural. You want to your podcast 181 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:16,720 to sound natural. When people are listening to it, they don't want to know that it's been 182 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,880 edited highly. They don't want to know that it's been edited. They want to see it as a 183 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:27,160 conversation. So if you cut it out too much and you cut out too much of the silence and 184 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,520 you make the words run into each other, it's not going to sound natural. So you're going 185 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,720 to want to go ahead and listen back to your product to make sure that it sounds good before 186 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:46,400 that you put it out to the world for everybody to listen to. Now that's, that's what I have 187 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,760 to say. That's how I edit all of the shows that I edit. You know, I do a combination 188 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:58,520 between all three of those. I go from no editing really at all for my podcast edits, podcasts 189 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:06,960 that I host and then for ones that I'm editing for other people, I do light editing for the, 190 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,600 for the things like just getting spaces. And then sometimes I have to do the full editing 191 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:18,280 for content just because we want it to say something different because the podcast interview 192 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:26,320 went way off the rails. So guys, this podcast actually is value for value. What that means 193 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,000 is we don't have sponsors for this podcast. We don't have corporate sponsors. We don't 194 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,800 have anybody advertisements that come in and interrupt your listening to this podcast. 195 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:44,720 So what that means is we all we're asking you to do is that if you find any value in 196 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:51,160 this podcast, assign a value to that. What does that mean to you? So if you've got lots 197 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,480 and lots of lots of help, that could be one value. If you've got a little bit of help 198 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:04,360 from this podcast, it could be another. 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