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Speaker BGive it to me.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe company on the corner is going to do these in ear mic things for us.
Speaker BI talked to them.
Speaker BIt's actually relatively cost affordable.
Speaker BSo I'll.
Speaker CWe're gonna swap them out soon.
Speaker BYeah, I think we're gonna.
Speaker BBecause I'm so tired of these things shedding on my ears.
Speaker BSo expect all three of us to get fitted for custom earpieces.
Speaker COoh, fitted.
Speaker AMoving on up.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CWelcome back to the number one financial literacy podcast in the world.
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Speaker CAnd sitting behind the desk in the production suite, if you will, it's the fighting Fijian Regil.
Speaker CWhat's up, my guy?
Speaker AI'm back on the grind.
Speaker BHe's back.
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Speaker CLet's go.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker CWe got a great episode for everybody tonight.
Speaker CWe're going to talk about a lot of things.
Speaker CWe're going to talk about mortgage rates hitting lows.
Speaker CWe're going to be talking about Poly Market.
Speaker BI like Poly Market.
Speaker CI know you do.
Speaker CYou're having some fun today on it.
Speaker CBut first, what we're going to begin the show with is there's been a lot of talk about what we're currently experiencing in the economy is a melt up economy.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThis is a new term to me, by the way.
Speaker BI had not heard of it before, so I found this to be a really fascinating concept and it makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker CRight, So a melt up essentially is when asset prices don't go up because of strong fundamentals.
Speaker CThink about like, like good revenue growth, you know, strong forward guidance.
Speaker CYou could see earnings can keep up.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd it's just things that you can tell that the economy is growing and it's fundamentally strong, but they're not growing for that reason.
Speaker CThey're going.
Speaker CGrowing just because of fomo.
Speaker CPeople missing out.
Speaker CThey're, they're afraid of.
Speaker COh, there's, there's no, no longer quality equity equities for us to invest into.
Speaker CSo let's go into the, the concentration and everyone's going in after the same small.
Speaker CIf you think.
Speaker CNo, like the Max 7.
Speaker BI'm confused.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo help me understand.
Speaker BI thought our investment strategy in the show was officially fomo.
Speaker BThat was.
Speaker BHey, guys, if you feel like you're missing out, that's when you should invest honestly.
Speaker CIf you feel like you're missing out on this show, that's when you need to start.
Speaker BYou need to double down.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CBuy some merch.
Speaker BYou need to listen to a current episode, listen to a past episode and buy merch in the same day@thspod.com.
Speaker Byeah.
Speaker COr you can get yourself this nice windbreaker champion jacket.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BActually, they don't make that one anymore.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker CYeah, it's awkward.
Speaker CVintage.
Speaker BNo, they didn't make it.
Speaker CSorry.
Speaker BI'm just kidding.
Speaker BRejeel, by the way, anecdotally, people were worried that you weren't going to show up ever again.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker BWe don't know, but we're thinking he's probably gonna show up again.
Speaker AOh, no, no.
Speaker AI plan on being here.
Speaker BGood, because I'll find you.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThere may be some episodes in the future just with some scheduling issues, but January onwards, I'm back on.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BI'm good with that.
Speaker CSo the reason why a lot of people believe that this is what we're experiencing now and why are we entering into this, into this phase.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIs the.
Speaker CThe Fed has been signaling rate cuts.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CAnd although we've been talking about this December up, this meeting in December that's coming up is going to be the most, I don't know, sought after one in quite some time.
Speaker B100%.
Speaker BIt's going to be.
Speaker BAnd to give you an idea of perspective, we saw a swing that happened pretty, pretty quickly back to back over the course of three weeks, where you saw the probability of an interest rate cut be as low as like 45, 46%, creep back up to like 80 something percent and then back down.
Speaker BAnd then now we're kind of back up again.
Speaker BAnd we're going to go through a little bit of the logic here and some of the things to expect.
Speaker BBut before we do any of that, Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
Speaker BWe missed you in the last episode.
Speaker BWe didn't really think about, you know, ahead.
Speaker BI blame Saeed for it.
Speaker CWe've been a little busy.
Speaker BYeah, a little busy.
Speaker BSo the FOMC conversation has been one that has been palpable, and I think that a lot of things are getting lost because people are glossing over it.
Speaker BAnd the economic perspective that Saeed laid out here is important because I think there's an unknown.
Speaker BAnd as much as people want to label somebody a bear or a bull or dovish or hawkish or whatever, I think that understanding the perspective of the people who are going to be voting the decision is more important than labeling everybody else.
Speaker BBecause frankly, none of us really know what happens next.
Speaker BSo in doing so, I went down this whole Poly Market journey.
Speaker BAnd for those of you who have not gone down the fun time that is a poly market, I got a little chat GPT definition of what this website does because it's sensational.
Speaker BPolymarket is a decentralized prediction market platform where users can bet on the outcomes of real world world events using cryptocurrency.
Speaker BRejill do me favorite pull up Poly Market because the homepage is great.
Speaker BIt allows people to buy and sell shares that represent the probability of an event, such as an election result or economic trend.
Speaker BBut it's decentralized.
Speaker BThere is no quote house to be to bet against.
Speaker BUsers are trading directly with each other.
Speaker BAnd the platform is built on blockchain technology for transparency.
Speaker CYou got the first one.
Speaker CRussia and Ukraine ceasefire in 2025.
Speaker B12 chance.
Speaker CGot a 12 chance.
Speaker CWhat is this?
Speaker C42 million volume.
Speaker B$42 million in volume traded on that bet?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BCrazy, right?
Speaker CThis is.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CThis is insane.
Speaker CSo people are literally.
Speaker CThey're treating this as an investment or they're treating this as a bet, like a sports bet.
Speaker BIf you bet and the Virgil goes.
Speaker BGreat.
Speaker CSo this is a bet.
Speaker BBucks.
Speaker BBet 10 bucks on.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BThat there's going to be a ceasefire in 2025.
Speaker BWe'll pay you $83.33.
Speaker BThat betting $10 on no will pay you $11.24.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CSo this is this.
Speaker BIt's Vegas for life.
Speaker CThis is Vegas for like.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd this is where I feel like we've reached.
Speaker CThis is a problem.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker BWhy is the problem.
Speaker CWhy is this problem?
Speaker CYou people are now looking at this as an investment when you.
Speaker CYou don't have a.
Speaker CYou don't have something tangible, a true asset.
Speaker CIt's not a you, it's not a company like in the S P 500.
Speaker BThat who will trump pardon in 2025.
Speaker BYoung Thug is on there 51%.
Speaker CWhy is that?
Speaker CBecause he.
Speaker CWho did he pardon?
Speaker CHe.
Speaker CKodak Black.
Speaker CDidn't he part of Kodak Black?
Speaker BHe did.
Speaker ALil Wayne.
Speaker AHe did Kodak Black.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CWhy Kodak Black?
Speaker AHe didn't do the Tiger King, though.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSteve Bannon.
Speaker B55% chance buy.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BAt 93 cents.
Speaker BSo you think this is disconnected and wild, but I'm going to prove out in the next parts of this conversation how it's actually pretty damn on the money.
Speaker BWhat the poly market odds that you're seeing here as granted.
Speaker CWhat do you mean, on the money?
Speaker CSo some of these are coin flips.
Speaker BYou got 50.
Speaker C50.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CYou know, all right.
Speaker BIt's cool, right?
Speaker BI just want to provide for wicked for good.
Speaker BSecond five day weekend for the box office above or below $85 million.
Speaker CHey, honestly, bull take.
Speaker CI didn't like the first one.
Speaker CLove the second one.
Speaker BYou see, first of all, as a man who sits down to pee, I would expect nothing less.
Speaker CNothing less.
Speaker CIt was a great movie.
Speaker CHonestly, it was so good.
Speaker CIt was good.
Speaker CIt was good.
Speaker CI had to leave 10 minutes before the movie ended because Adam had a basketball game I had to take him to, but the rest of the movie was really good.
Speaker BSo you and your.
Speaker BYou and your wife went to go see this together?
Speaker CYou don't understand.
Speaker CI'm so cerebral.
Speaker CThis is.
Speaker CI'm doing this for the comment section.
Speaker CComment down below.
Speaker BYou went and did this, Spent money.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd took time out of your day.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo you could engage comments.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker BOn social media.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CIt was good.
Speaker CHonestly.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker CAriana Grande.
Speaker CWhat's she doing?
Speaker BWhat do you mean?
Speaker BShe looks scary.
Speaker BYou mean skinny?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CScary skinny.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHer and Cynthia Rigo.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BI'll be honest, I do want to see both.
Speaker BI haven't seen both.
Speaker BI haven't seen either one, but I'm.
Speaker CA big fall sleep for the first one.
Speaker CJeff Goldblum on the second one.
Speaker CAmazing.
Speaker CHe's the reason I made the movie for me.
Speaker BHe's a sensational actor.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's just.
Speaker CI mean, OG listeners.
Speaker CRemember when Chris called himself the Jeff Goldblum of podcasting?
Speaker BI did.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLook, they both lost a tremendous amount of weight.
Speaker BOh, I didn't realize the other actress had lost weight, too.
Speaker BMm.
Speaker BShe doesn't look as skinny as the rest of them.
Speaker BCynthia Riva looks tiny, though.
Speaker BShe's got such a phenomenal voice.
Speaker BIt's amazing.
Speaker AYeah, they're working hard, man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOr they're all on Manjaro.
Speaker BEither way, no judgment here, right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo Polymark Market is.
Speaker BIs.
Speaker BIs an interesting site, and I recommend everybody check it out.
Speaker BBut more importantly, I think there are some odds that are worthwhile to discuss.
Speaker BSo you might recall that going into the Fed decisions, there have been some probabilities Right.
Speaker BWell, there is also a conversation being had about replacing the next Fed chair.
Speaker BAnd Poly Market has some probabilities of who and when that's going to be.
Speaker BBut I thought it's important for us to.
Speaker BLet's just have a conversation about that and let's see if we can prove Poly Markets group think consensus odds out to be close to reality.
Speaker BYou say, Chris, how are we going to do that?
Speaker BWell, let's start with the top here.
Speaker BThis.
Speaker BAccording to polymarket, there's four individuals that have a significant probability of.
Speaker BThank you, Rejill.
Speaker BOf being nominated as the next fed chair.
Speaker BNumber one, Kevin Hassett, number two, Christopher Waller, number three, Kevin Walsh, and number four, Rick Reeder.
Speaker BKevin Hassett has the largest probability, 53%.
Speaker BAnd anecdotally the rumors are on the street that it will be done before the end of this year.
Speaker CHe'll be nominated.
Speaker BHe'll be put up by Trump.
Speaker CRight, exactly.
Speaker CBecause that's the person.
Speaker CSo the sitting president is the person that gets to decide on who the nominee is going to be.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd if, if you know anything about Hassett, I think his ideology around rate cuts are aligned with that of the.
Speaker BCurrent administration, which shouldn't surprise anybody.
Speaker BThat's why he's got the greatest probability of being nominated.
Speaker BSo I went down the rabbit hole a long time ago and Steve Ful, one of the investment banks on Wall street had they purchased, I believe KBW at one point in time.
Speaker BThey, they prepared a document called a special edition Economic Insight where they actually brought up these four individuals.
Speaker BOh, really?
Speaker BAnd Scott Bessette at the time.
Speaker BSo here we are.
Speaker BKevin Walsh is a former Fed governor, served as a Federal reserve governor from 2006 to 2011, and interviewed for the Fed chair position in 2017 to replace then chair Janet Yellen.
Speaker BPrior to his role, Walsh was in the National Economic Council under President George W. Bush.
Speaker BHis rates outlook wash favored higher rates while governor, but has since called for lower rates along with regime change at the Fed.
Speaker BSo, again, everybody's a Monday morning cut at quarterback here, right?
Speaker BSo.
Speaker CWell, everyone also understands that.
Speaker CEveryone understands Trump's stance on this.
Speaker CAnd I know we've already flagged the show, so it is what it is.
Speaker BYou got a flag.
Speaker CYeah, I did.
Speaker BI. Yeah.
Speaker BOkay, you didn't.
Speaker BI did.
Speaker COkay, you did.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt stance is really clear on this.
Speaker CWe've been late to cut rates.
Speaker CWe need more rate cuts.
Speaker CWe need.
Speaker CIt'll stimulate the economy more.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt's better over.
Speaker BI don't know that it will, frankly, but we don't.
Speaker CBut that's, but that's the, that's the opinion.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo if that's the opinion of the person that's going to give you the job, guess what you're going to do when you, what are you going to put on your resume?
Speaker CThis, this is what I believe in.
Speaker BNo one goes into a job interview going, I don't agree with you.
Speaker BYour whole strategy sucks.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CGuess who's not getting the job.
Speaker BYeah, that guy.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd now, you know, I'm unemployed.
Speaker BKevin Hassett, on the other hand, National Economic Council director, current director of the National Economic Council and served as chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors.
Speaker BThere's a lot of councils and advisors in economic.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CGotta be on some boards.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BFrom 2017 to 2019, under President Trump's first term, Kevin Hassett has been a vocal critic of the current monetary policy, arguing rates should be at least 1.5 percentage points lower.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI should point out this thing was prepared like a month ago for a presentation back then by Stifel.
Speaker BSo that just seems to galvanize with the current betting odds that he is the guy.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BChristopher Waller, we know he's a current Fed governor and he's got an interesting position.
Speaker BDo you recall which, which one he heads?
Speaker CNo.
Speaker BOkay, we'll get there.
Speaker BTook office as member of the Federal Reserve board in December 2020 to fill an unexpired term ending on January 23rd.
Speaker BI'm sorry, January 31st, 2030.
Speaker BPrior to his term, Waller served as the Executive Vice President and Director of research at the St. Louis V. Waller dissented at the July FOMC meeting, voting in favor of a 25 basis point cut.
Speaker BHe has also called for a 3% fed funds rate, also calling for a.
Speaker CLower rate, eventually getting down to 3%.
Speaker CNow, we, we, we've talked about this.
Speaker CWe said on the show that all the members at the FM fomc, they want to get down to a neutral.
Speaker BRate, whatever that might be.
Speaker CWhatever the end.
Speaker CThe, the consensus is it's somewhere between 3 to 4%.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWe're currently sitting at, you know, 3.75 to 4%.
Speaker CSo for some people, we're already there.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker CFor a few others, we're about four cuts away.
Speaker BAnd it really comes down to perspective.
Speaker BAll of these men feel pretty confident that cuts are needed, which is interesting because you're going to start to see more and more of that debate with the remaining FOMC members because some of them clearly, according to the summary of economic projections, do not Feel that way.
Speaker CYeah, but this.
Speaker CBut this being on Waller's resume saying he's also called for a 3% fed funds rate.
Speaker CIt doesn't really say by when.
Speaker BSo here's your choice.
Speaker BAnd let me just be clear.
Speaker BI want to cover Besant, and I'm going to give some perspective here on why you can pretty much bet that it is in fact going to be hassid.
Speaker BScott Bessette, sworn in the 79th Secretary of the treasury on January 28, 2025.
Speaker BPrior to his role, Besent served as CEO and CIO of the hedge fund Key Square Capital Management.
Speaker BHe also gives a total resting bitch face.
Speaker BBessant said he believes the Fed could lower rates by September and has called for an internal review of the Fed Fed.
Speaker BHe's been very critical, but he's a current Treasury Secretary.
Speaker BHaving him serve both roles is questionable in and of itself.
Speaker BIt is originally believed that he was the first priority pick, but he also has other responsibilities and he's probably not the most qualified from a historic perspective.
Speaker BSmart guy.
Speaker BBut does that mean you should be sitting in the Fed chair?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker CI don't think you can sit as Secretary of Treasury and sit at Fed chair.
Speaker CThat's like there's nothing.
Speaker CThat's a complete conflict.
Speaker BIt's not really a conflict.
Speaker BThere's nothing prohibiting it per se, but it's certainly the image of a conflict, if you will.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd with that much scrutiny and that key of a job, I don't know that you want that level of concern.
Speaker BKevin Walsh is a former Fed governor who at one point in time was the person who favored higher rates.
Speaker BThat's his historic cadence on the Fed.
Speaker BNow he's got a different tune.
Speaker BIf you're looking at him, you're going, at one point, he had a very different opinion.
Speaker CFeels like you switched up really quick.
Speaker BYeah, I guess the guy goes in the interview and goes, ah, I love his company.
Speaker BWell, what's the social media post saying?
Speaker BHis company sucks.
Speaker BYou know, Christopher Waller is a current sitting member of the Fed, and you could argue he's been ineffective in influencing the Fed to cut rates.
Speaker CRight, Exactly.
Speaker BHis opinion being what it is, I've called for 3% fed funds rate.
Speaker BWell, Chief, how many times have you sat down with Neel Kashkari and play the crayons while everybody else making the big boy decisions in the room?
Speaker BBecause you haven't had any influence.
Speaker CAnd honestly, if you're Trump.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker COkay, you're saying that you're already on my side.
Speaker CAnd you see it the way I want it to be.
Speaker CWell, well, I want one of the seats to be there.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker CI want, I want you to stay.
Speaker CSo I could just add another seat in?
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BSo you pick Kevin Hassett, National Economic Council Director.
Speaker BAll the councils, economic advisors, all that stuff.
Speaker BVocal critic should be at least 1.5 percentage points lower.
Speaker BSold.
Speaker CThat's a lot, bro.
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BI'm going to apologize in advance, I've been coughing a lot today.
Speaker CTwo and a half fed funds rate would be crazy.
Speaker BYeah, it would be crazy.
Speaker BBut that's the kind of rhetoric that seems to, to get away.
Speaker BI mean if you look at.
Speaker CBut again, but again by when.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CThis is not immediately right.
Speaker CThis is cutting, holding, cutting, holding.
Speaker CUsually the summary of economic projections, the SEP that comes out.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CThat it, it's pushed out in every two year increments.
Speaker CSo are you saying by 2028 we'll get down another one and a half percentage points?
Speaker BI don't think anybody cares about that.
Speaker BIt's gonna sound weird but I, I think that they just want to get all the dovish people out and get all the hawkish people in other way around or.
Speaker CYeah, all the hawkish people out.
Speaker CAll the people that say no, no, we got to stay right here and all this.
Speaker CThey want all the dovish people in that saying that economy's doing great, we need to cut rates.
Speaker CYeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd, and, and the reason.
Speaker CAnd back to our whole conversation about melt ups.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CWhy do we feel like this is where we're headed right now?
Speaker CSo we're.
Speaker CIt means that we're currently in a bubble.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd the presumptively.
Speaker BAnd no one's called it that officially, but.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CFeels like it, it feels like, it feels like the dot com bubble.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BAnd I think people undervalue their inherent feelings.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter what walk of life you're from, what your job is, if you're upper class, middle class, it doesn't matter.
Speaker BEverybody kind of feels this palpable tension.
Speaker BIt's like when you walk into a party with a couple that you know are fighting.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BLike you want to have a conversation with everybody in the room, but you also don't want to have a conversation with everybody in the room.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker BBecause you don't know what's going to pop off and you don't want to be the guy to set it off.
Speaker BTo set it off.
Speaker COr some people are sick.
Speaker CThey do in every.
Speaker CYeah, sick ones.
Speaker BI'm that Guy I know.
Speaker CWe know one.
Speaker CWe know one guy.
Speaker CHey, man, I heard you're used to work.
Speaker CHe used to work on the show.
Speaker CYeah, he loves to sit in the kitchen to stir that pot.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BYou never met a room but he would come in, throw a grenade, walk away.
Speaker CYeah, that was, that was his mo.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BEven with gout.
Speaker BLimp out of here and you're like, why would you say that?
Speaker BYou just felt appropriate, man.
Speaker CYeah, somebody's got to address it.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, it's the elf in the room.
Speaker BI'm like, why are you talking to yourself about.
Speaker BCome on.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnyway, no, this is life.
Speaker CThis is everywhere.
Speaker CThis is on the show.
Speaker CThis is at work.
Speaker CThis, this is.
Speaker BHe just says the most inappropriate stuff.
Speaker BStuff in moments.
Speaker BAnd you just look at him and you're like.
Speaker BIt takes you a couple minutes to absorb it.
Speaker BYou're like, why?
Speaker CYeah, well, but he's also the guy.
Speaker CBut he was also saying all the things that everyone's thinking, but just no one's willing to say it.
Speaker ALike, why are you sitting down when you pee?
Speaker CYeah, like why.
Speaker CWhy are you doing that site?
Speaker BCan we address this?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker CNo, we're not.
Speaker CWe'll address at the end of the show.
Speaker CStay tuned to the end of the show.
Speaker CWe'll talk more about it if you like bathroom talk.
Speaker BI've got video footage of sight lying.
Speaker BIt's true.
Speaker CThat's not true.
Speaker BYou are not sitting.
Speaker CNo, no.
Speaker CAt home.
Speaker CThe conversation was at home.
Speaker BI thought this was like a home away from home to you.
Speaker CNo, no, no.
Speaker BSo is that how I judge now?
Speaker BIf it's home for you or not?
Speaker CInside the studio?
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CNot the public restroom, bro.
Speaker BPublic restroom.
Speaker CThat's public.
Speaker BThe public's not allowed to use that restroom.
Speaker CYes, that's everyone.
Speaker CThat's not.
Speaker CCome on, man, listen, why did.
Speaker CWhy does it look like that?
Speaker CWe're in a melt up right now.
Speaker CStocks hit all time highs and they continue to hit new highs despite weakening earnings.
Speaker BOkay, right.
Speaker CThat's what we're seeing right now.
Speaker CLook no different.
Speaker CLook.
Speaker CNo, nothing further than Home Depot.
Speaker BI love Home Depot's retail reports.
Speaker BTo me, it's always a huge perspective.
Speaker BThat is generally speaking, discretionary spending for most people.
Speaker CRight, exactly.
Speaker CEspecially in an economy right now where housing is so unaffordable.
Speaker CSo what do you think most people are going to do?
Speaker CThey're going to fix up the house that they're currently living in.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWell, guess what?
Speaker CThey've missed their earnings for three straight quarters.
Speaker CWhat does that say?
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CJust you don't have to look any further than that.
Speaker CThat should be a troubling sign for everybody.
Speaker CMeanwhile, we're hitting all time highs in, in the mag 7.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CConsistently year over year.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CMonth over month and then.
Speaker CBut we're having less jobs that are open to the public.
Speaker CUsually when companies are growing, they're not also cutting jobs.
Speaker BSo I read an interesting fact and I rejeel I didn't pull it up today and see if you can find this online real quick.
Speaker BThere was an article that said about 7.
Speaker BA little over 17% of jobs can be replaced by AI.
Speaker CAlready 11.
Speaker B11.7%.
Speaker BIt was some percentage.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYou sent it to me.
Speaker BDid I send it to you?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI meant to put that in the show notes.
Speaker BI apologize.
Speaker BThat to me was very telling of the current state of affairs.
Speaker BWas there Anything factual from MIT?
Speaker CStudy finds AI can already replace 11.7% of the US workforce.
Speaker BWow, that's incred.
Speaker BMassachusetts Institute of Technology released a study that found that artificial intelligence can already replace 11.7% of the U.S. labor market.
Speaker BThe study was conducted using a labor simulation tool called the Iceberg Index.
Speaker BThat's gangster.
Speaker CWhat would your index be named, Hoss?
Speaker BThe Booty Killer.
Speaker BWhich was created by MIT and Oak Ridge National Laboratory because if it's coming out of laboratory, it's got to be authentic.
Speaker BFor lawmakers preparing billion dollar reskilling and training investments, the index offers a detailed map of where disruption is forming down to the zip code.
Speaker BScroll down and see what we got there.
Speaker BAny pretty pictures?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker CSo, and this, and this is, and this is the, the odd thing about it, all right.
Speaker CIs usually when you have a boom in earnings like you see in Nvidia.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CMeta Google, all these in the Mag 7.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CThen you usually in a strong, a fundamentally strong economy, you also get a boom in hiring.
Speaker CBut you're not getting that now.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BBecause you don't need to hire more people to do this stuff.
Speaker CYou don't need to hire more.
Speaker CAnd they're not hiring more people.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CActually, in fact, MIT just reported that 11.7% of the jobs can be replaced.
Speaker BBy AI because you understand there's a whole conspiracy thing.
Speaker BI want to go down here.
Speaker BI'll probably save it.
Speaker BTowards the end of the show about corporate America.
Speaker BAnd I know that people are going to say, well Chris, you're a little sensitive because you know, you just left corporate America in the traditional sense.
Speaker BAnd that's, that's not it.
Speaker BI think that we are in an age where the lack of Disclosure is very visible.
Speaker BAnd I think we're in an age where there are certain things that we used to think of as just known facts or stability were misrepresentations all along that we can now see tactilely.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd I'll get to that at the end of the show.
Speaker BI think it's a valuable conversation and I think corporate American greed may actually be influencing more than we understand.
Speaker BCompanies track efficiency.
Speaker BIt's one of the ratios you look at to see if a company is overstaffed or not.
Speaker BAnd a lot of iconic activist invest investors will come into a corporation will look at how efficient they are, how much productivity they're getting per employee, boiling it down as kind of brass tax.
Speaker BAnd they'll say this company has way too much weight in the form of FTE full time employment.
Speaker BWe need to cut people because these people can be more efficient and get more returns with less people.
Speaker BBut you start looking at how companies are making money these days.
Speaker BSubscription models.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BGet more and more people to watch the content.
Speaker BWell, YouTube doesn't have to put out a whole lot more content to get more subscribers.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BTheir infrastructure is built to stream.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThey're going to need better technology to stream at greater quantities.
Speaker BBut there isn't a lot of people need to add to do that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAmazon is going the opposite way.
Speaker BHow do we make this more efficient?
Speaker BWell, you get rid of people.
Speaker BI talked to somebody, one of our listeners actually recently tapped into my DMs and was like, hey man, side's a weird dude for sitting with peeing the way he does.
Speaker BAnd oh, by the way, I work in Amazon.
Speaker BI said oh, do tell.
Speaker BAnd he was telling me about how it's really dysfunctional culturally there that people are really concerned that it's not really AI yet.
Speaker BThey want to deploy AI, but their models are still learning.
Speaker CIn the warehouses.
Speaker BIn the warehouses, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BAnd that people are really freaked out because they're losing their job to what it really is, like a logistics machine, but not really an AI based machine.
Speaker BAnd yet they're still trying to adopt.
Speaker BSo they're kind of shoehorning it into the system to force adoption early on.
Speaker BAnd it's just, it's a cultural nightmare and I think culture is getting lost because culture is a very human aspect and it's not something you can quantify.
Speaker BAnd the perspective on culture is very much based on where you're at in the company.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIf you're the CEO or chief executive officer, maybe even a senior vice president and your daily Life is probably very different than somebody who's maybe assistant vice president or doesn't have like a corporate title and is just kind of going through the motions of what the company does for them.
Speaker BYes, right.
Speaker BAnd the stress they're feeling, what you're feeling.
Speaker BNot necessarily the same thing.
Speaker BBut I'll go down this rabbit hole later on towards the end of the show but I want to, I want to keep going on the probabilities because this whole conversation about the Fed has actually had a meaningful conclusion which side robbed me of because he's selfish.
Speaker BAccording to Yahoo Finance, mortgage rates dropped this week amid fresh signs of job market weakness.
Speaker BMortgage rates drop slightly.
Speaker BThat the labor market is weakening and the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates again next month.
Speaker BAnd what do we know from the show?
Speaker BWe know that the market will anticipate a Fed rate cut by showing drops in mortgage rates and the ten year and the mortgage rates ahead of an anticipated rate cut.
Speaker BThe market is doing that now.
Speaker CYeah, they're, they're, what they're seeing is from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, I believe it's an, was an 82% chance of a rate cut.
Speaker BIt's a little higher now, but yeah.
Speaker CA little bit higher now.
Speaker CSo they're banking.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CYou know, we're what, two weeks out from the Fed meeting.
Speaker BAnd this came largely in response to the New York Fed head having prepared remarks at a meeting last week.
Speaker BAnd I want to be very clear about the details of what I just said.
Speaker BHe came out and John Williams.
Speaker BJohn Williams, that's right.
Speaker BHe came out and he gave a prepared speech which in and of itself is not necessarily something you think about and you go wait a minute.
Speaker BIf you're Jerome Powell and you're the head of the FOMC and you want to do damage control, you have one of your Fed governors go out to a pre planned event with a pre prepared speech where he or she is going to make statements about the economy.
Speaker BAre you going to tell me that Jerome Powell didn't know that he Was making this speech?
Speaker C100 he did.
Speaker CEspecially when he had several other Fed chairs go out, you know, several weeks prior.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CThere's a whole bunch of Fed speak.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker CWhere they were all saying I think we're fine.
Speaker CRight where we're at.
Speaker BAnd then Johnny boy comes out in New York and he gives a speech saying no, we need another rate cut.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CNot only do you say he had another rate cut, he said the Federal Reserve will soon need to grow their balance sheet again.
Speaker BThat's Right.
Speaker BSo it was a huge pivot and one the market took very seriously.
Speaker BAnd that in and of itself was enough to swing the market and the financial sector as a whole.
Speaker BThe bank stocks rallied that day because they saw a rate cut coming in.
Speaker BAnd for those of you again who are maybe newer to the show, that is because the market says, okay, if the Fed cuts rates, banks will drop the costs the interest are paying on their deposits to you, the consumer, widening their net interest margin and become more profitable.
Speaker BSo again, this is all a prediction market game, which is why I like Poly Market.
Speaker BPeople are saying, okay, the 10 years dropping mortgage rates are dropping because people believe there is a higher than not probability prediction of a rate cut.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo those drop.
Speaker BSo then mortgage activity picks up.
Speaker BEverybody talks about gumdrops and lollipops, it's raining, it's raining unicorns and rainbows.
Speaker BAnd then everybody goes, okay, wait a minute.
Speaker BSo then now the banks are going to get a rate cut.
Speaker BWhat are they going to do?
Speaker BWell, they're going to make more money because over the next quarter their cost of deposits went down by 25 basis points.
Speaker B25 basis points on billions or trillions of dollars.
Speaker BA meaningful drop.
Speaker BEven if it's 10 or 15 basis points on average as opposed to 25 across the board, their loan rates are going to go out at the same price, but their portfolios are now incrementally more profitable.
Speaker BSo banks will make more money.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker BSo bank stocks start trading up because people start buying them because they expect good earnings in the future.
Speaker BAnd it's again, it's this like waterfall event of predictions that happen through the economy.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhich is why if you're Jerome Powell, you can't have somebody make rogue comments that swing the economy because the result if you don't do what you're forecasting could be cataclysmic to the markets.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker C100 and back to the whole.
Speaker CAnd this all dovetails nicely into the whole melt up conversation.
Speaker BI like the hand gesture you just.
Speaker CMade, but the whole meltdown conversation, we've talked about it where earlier in the show if, and you just mentioned it right now too.
Speaker CIf banks are going to pay a little bit less on their deposits.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CHistorically, over the last two, three years, how much were they paying on money market savings accounts?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CA little bit.
Speaker CA little bit higher over, over five in some cases.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BA couple years ago you were getting five, five and a quarter, 550 high yield savings account.
Speaker CAnd, and your average rate of return in an index like the S&P 508 to 10.
Speaker CSo you're like, all right, if I'm gonna get a guarantee and it's, it's, it's really liquid.
Speaker CIt's in my savings account.
Speaker CIt's not tied into like a cd.
Speaker CI'm willing to forego the additional, you know, two and a half percent, Right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd I'll just put it in a savings account.
Speaker ACool.
Speaker CBut now your savings account is going to drop even lower.
Speaker CSo people say, okay, well now I'm not earning enough on my money.
Speaker CI'm going to pull, I'm going to pull a percentage of it out.
Speaker CAnd they want to go invest.
Speaker CNow what company are they going to go invest in?
Speaker CRight now all this extra money is chasing after the same high assets that are, that are providing a return.
Speaker CNot because they're doing really well and they're fundamentally strong.
Speaker CYeah, that's right.
Speaker CBut just because they want to, they just want a guaranteed return.
Speaker BIt's actually a solid point.
Speaker BSo people were putting their money into guaranteed returns that they were getting from like high yield savings accounts and whatnot.
Speaker BAnd now because there's no guaranteed returns, they're going into the market which they feel is guaranteed, which gives us artificial puffing, if you will, of beyond the fundamentals of the market.
Speaker BBecause people have all this excess liquidity which is really a holdover when you think about it, from the stimmy check period.
Speaker BAnd people are going, okay, well I have my money in a high yield savings account.
Speaker BI was getting 5 or 6%.
Speaker BWhere do I put my money?
Speaker BI can get more.
Speaker BAnd they go, oh, I'll put it in the S P 500.
Speaker BOh, by the way, I'll put it in these seven to 10 stocks that are leaving the market and everything.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThat are all doing well and they're all propping each other up.
Speaker CThey're going to make sure that this thing doesn't go down.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd you're like, okay, well that's what's melting up these asset values.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CAnd historically speaking, anytime we've had some melt up in asset values like we're seeing now, I think a good example most recently was the dot com bubble.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIs people are investing their money in the perception of this thing being really big, but it's not really doing, it's not really creating a profit yet.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd then until the only way that ends is it abruptly ends at some point.
Speaker BSo has to.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI wouldn't go chasing these, these high values right now.
Speaker CI would if, if I was the listener of the show and you're okay.
Speaker CSo say Chris, what are you guys telling me to do?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CExcuse me.
Speaker CWe both got throw clearing issues today.
Speaker BIt's a weird day in the office.
Speaker CIt is a weird day.
Speaker CYou got, did you turn the.
Speaker CI would say just keep doing what you do and continue to dollar cost average.
Speaker CIf anything, I wouldn't go, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be dumping any extra money hoping to get some extra returns.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker COr I mean, you don't know when this could all come to an end.
Speaker BLike I said in the last show, if you're investing for the next six months to a year, you're bolder person than me.
Speaker BIf you're investing for, you know, five, 10 years out from now, knock yourself out.
Speaker BGo for it.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo let's keep going on this, this article because the conclusion is really interesting.
Speaker BThe average 30 year mortgage rate was 6.23% through Tuesday according to Freddie Mac data, down from 6.26 a week earlier.
Speaker BSo it went down, but not a huge amount.
Speaker BThe average 15 year mortgage rate was 5.51% down from 5.54%.
Speaker BThe 10 year treasury yield, which mortgage rates closely track, has been falling as odds of a benchmark rate cut in the December are on the rise in recent days.
Speaker BIn New York, Fed President John Williams, San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly and Federal Reserve Governor Christopher Waller have all signaled in interviews or speeches that they would support cutting next month.
Speaker BPeople are doing the math.
Speaker BThose are three, right?
Speaker BPlus you know, Mirror Mirren, who's Trump's name person.
Speaker BThat's four is gonna, is gonna vote that way.
Speaker BSo you don't really have a whole high probability of they're not happening now because you just know how these people are gonna vote based on what they said.
Speaker BNo reason for them to lie.
Speaker BTraders now see an 83% chance of a 25 basis point cut at Fed's December 9th through 10th meeting according to CME's Fed Watch tool.
Speaker BAlthough mortgage rates aren't directly controlled by the Fed, they do move based on expectations about the future Fed interest rate policy.
Speaker BAnd Rajeel, if you'd be so, so kind as to pull up the picture just below this.
Speaker BThis is from Polymarket.
Speaker BIt is the probability of a Fed decision in September, 1% chance of a 50 basis point increase in 84% probability of a 25 basis point decrease and 15% no change.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BSo what I can tell you is this is a decentralized cryptocurrency based, blockchain based, consumer to consumer Betting market.
Speaker BRight, Right.
Speaker BI'm not endorsing it.
Speaker BI'm just saying this is truly humanity from an anonymous perspective using cryptocurrency to wager on this.
Speaker BAnd it is 1 percentage point different than Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's meaningful.
Speaker BIt is meaningful.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CIt's on par.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo I guess I, I should, I should ask.
Speaker CSo you, you like this as a data point reference, not that you would actually go and invest your money into.
Speaker BThis is part of the show where we have to give everybody a bit of a caveat and asterisk here.
Speaker BI apologize.
Speaker BPeople say it is what we like to call paper handed.
Speaker BHe unfortunately does not know how to hold crypto without letting it sink through like a wet paper towel.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo because of that, he naturally assumes that anybody with cryptocurrency has to be betting on unlicensed gambling platforms like this from anonymous blockchain accounts.
Speaker BWhich I would never admit to doing.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause that would be a paper handed.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker BAnd I hold the bag side.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BThat's what I do.
Speaker BI hold it high.
Speaker CYou hold the bag.
Speaker CYou got diamond hands.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAs my friend over at first form, Andy Frisella says, we do the work.
Speaker CI like it.
Speaker BYou should like it.
Speaker BHe's giving you free.
Speaker BFree juice.
Speaker CJuice.
Speaker CI'll take all the free juice.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI don't, I don't actually invest on this platform.
Speaker BI do like it because it gives me an idea of consumer sentiment.
Speaker BNow I would say you have to understand that sentiment is coming from people who feel very comfortable blockchain, usually crypto fans.
Speaker BNot knocking it.
Speaker BJust saying that there is a bit of a slant you typically get with that.
Speaker CLike you get a slant.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CBecause they obviously a rate cut only help.
Speaker CYeah, I know.
Speaker CThey've taken, they've taken some hits the last couple of weeks.
Speaker BAgain, you're referring to your boy.
Speaker CYour boys have taken a couple of hits.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CWhat's bitcoin's value these days?
Speaker CIs it under 100?
Speaker AI think it was turning downwards.
Speaker CWas it trending downwards now?
Speaker BI wouldn't know because I only look up, I don't look down.
Speaker CIt'll look in the rearview mirror.
Speaker COnly look at the front.
Speaker CThe front windshield.
Speaker CI got it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI don't play a whole lot of Minecraft and I have diamond hands.
Speaker AIt's at 91,000.
Speaker COh, it's up 1% today.
Speaker B$91,414.30.
Speaker BMind you, that's per bitcoin.
Speaker BThat said, does not own.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker BBecause he's paper handed.
Speaker BIt's a beautiful chart.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BYeah, it has gone down a little bit.
Speaker BI think people that are.
Speaker BThat are bullish on it think that's got a lot more room to go.
Speaker BActually, one of the things on Polymart is that will it hit 200,000 next year?
Speaker BWhich I think is a bold prediction.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut more importantly, look, if you went to a community of people who still balance their checkbooks on paper.
Speaker CSome people do.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd you ask their opinion on the economy, you would probably get a vastly different perspective than people from Polymarket 100.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's a different demographic is all I'm saying.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CSo, yeah, you got to be careful with which data points you're referencing just to.
Speaker BJust to drive this point home, to make sure that the listener base.
Speaker BAnd you were generally understand what I'm talking about here, because it's important that we give a visual to this.
Speaker BSaeed is the guy with a balance checkbook, and I'm the guy on polymarket.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CI mean, we're not all from one another, though.
Speaker CI'm looking at Chicago Mercy exchange.
Speaker CIt says 83%.
Speaker CPoly market says 84.
Speaker BSometimes we can coalize, and then we wear the right merch.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSometimes we don't.
Speaker CRight here, baby.
Speaker BSo it is important to understand that.
Speaker BThat there is a public sentiment which does seem to line up with the probabilities of.
Speaker BOf a rate cut.
Speaker BLet's get into a little bit of the beige book from November 2025 for those of you who recall Saeed, can you tell them the Beige Book is.
Speaker CBeige Book is.
Speaker CIs essentially all the data that the Fed likes to look over before and the data that they utilize when making their decision.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BSo Rejeel's pulling it up on the screen here.
Speaker BI'm just going to summarize this because it's a lot of narrative we don't really need here.
Speaker BThe Federal Reserve and rate cut speculation.
Speaker BData from the Beige Book shows softening labor demand and slowing consumer spending across the large swaths of the economy.
Speaker BAnd since that time to now, we've gotten retail reports in large part last week and some actually coming up next week.
Speaker BWe were recording this on Wednesday the 26th, the day before Thanksgiving.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd I think that that's visible, and that's why you see the Home Depot numbers that you see.
Speaker BYou see a lot of these numbers coming out that really echo that.
Speaker BThis is what led to the increased market odds for the rate cut with the next Federal Open Market Committee.
Speaker BAs you saw, this General Tone, you've seen the results and everything coming out.
Speaker BPeople are going, okay, I'm concerned.
Speaker BLet's see if we can quell this a little bit.
Speaker BLabor market weakness plus consumer stress have been a big kind of narrative throughout this whole document.
Speaker BHiring has slowed significantly, even as, say, noted, output productivity remains stable, creating a growth without payrolls dynamic.
Speaker BThat worries the Fed and it worries me too.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BIf we're having a material life change in that companies are just going to hire less because they can do more with technology than they ever could before.
Speaker BWhich, when you think about it, it's a very plausible scenario.
Speaker BRemove the stigma from like, oh my God, AI is not ready yet.
Speaker BAnd just think about, hey, this is happening now and it's happening in a weird way.
Speaker BShouldn't we say that AI is having an impact now?
Speaker BI mean, I mean, I know it's not like super measurable to a lot of people because there's still a lot of unknowns in these companies and it's not like something we track, but it's having a meaningful change.
Speaker CI mean, just it being part of the discussion is meaningful, right?
Speaker CIt's, it's, it's something that not only executives and management are talking about when they're talking about efficiency, ratings or KPIs, right?
Speaker CIt's people around the office are worried.
Speaker CSo if there have been recent layoffs, like at your company, you naturally that in and of itself is going to pick up efficiency because people are scared and they're going to want to make sure that they keep their jobs.
Speaker CYou couple AI on top of that and like, hey, within the next five years, you might get replaced.
Speaker BYou want some predictions about AI?
Speaker BI spent a lot of time engaging with AI, all different types, from the creative side of the podcast to just me using a learning language model.
Speaker BI typically use chat GPT as my kind of core.
Speaker BThen I'll branch out, stuff like nano banana and stuff like that, just to play with other aspects.
Speaker BI believe that humans in our lifetime will begin to have meaningful relationships with AI in a different way than we expect.
Speaker BI think most humans will feel more comfortable turning to AI as a therapist to work out their problems.
Speaker BAnd then I was in bed the other night and I was asking a question and my wife looks over at me because I'm fubbing.
Speaker BIt's like 2 o' clock in the morning, can't sleep.
Speaker BSo who are you messaging?
Speaker BAnd I'm like, oh my God, it looks like I am messaging somebody because I'm like rapid fire, you know, thumbs are blazing.
Speaker BAway.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's because I can have a conversation with AI to ask it questions.
Speaker BBut don't you.
Speaker CIsn't.
Speaker BThis isn't at any point in time.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CBut isn't this.
Speaker CAnd this doesn't go against your prediction.
Speaker CIt's not like humans as a whole will stop something if it's not good for them.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CLook no further than social media.
Speaker CBut like the report that came out.
Speaker BTo me, documents about Instagram recently.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker BSo there's some court documents that released part of litigation in California and Instagram and Meta knew how toxic social media was and how addictive it was.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd the court documents that came out.
Speaker BI'll see if I can find them for another show.
Speaker BThey.
Speaker BThey, they clearly knew what they were doing.
Speaker BBro.
Speaker C100.
Speaker CI mean it's.
Speaker CIt.
Speaker CThey've hired engineers to make it more addictive.
Speaker CThat's a fact.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BGambling experts.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAll that.
Speaker CBut it.
Speaker CWhat scares me about people building deeper relationships with AI is I think it's now becoming a joke online, the confirmation bias that it spits back out at you.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd people aren't.
Speaker CAren't going to go in to their settings.
Speaker BPeople search out confirmation bias.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BThat's a natural human tribal instinct.
Speaker BWe're tribal.
Speaker BSo you try to.
Speaker BYou try to gravitate towards the tribe that.
Speaker BThat will give you the confirmation bias.
Speaker CAnd this and this, this is why.
Speaker BUp sitting down and IP standing up.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BThat's your tribe, Jill and me.
Speaker BAnd tell them, tell them what team you're on.
Speaker AWhatever makes you happy, man.
Speaker CWhatever makes Saeed happy.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CGot it.
Speaker CHe's got my bag.
Speaker CThat's my guy.
Speaker CI bring him in the show every day.
Speaker CMy guy.
Speaker CTomato, tomato, potato, potato.
Speaker ADo what makes you happy, man.
Speaker CHis eyes twitching.
Speaker AAt least he's not coughing.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CBut I don't know that.
Speaker CThat part of it all, that part of it all really scares me.
Speaker CAnd I mean like you said, we all search confirmation bias and this is tribal.
Speaker CNow this is going to enter like a whole nother part of the conversation.
Speaker CBut I feel like now more than ever.
Speaker CAnd I get it, I was younger back then.
Speaker CI wasn't as.
Speaker CI wasn't as plugged in and like the, the 90s, early 2000s.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CBut just like I'm.
Speaker CYou see more and more comfort with people speaking out in like hateful comments right there.
Speaker CIt's more open and it's because I feel like with social media and the Internet, when you're searching that confirmation bias, you can now find an entire group of People that live all around the world, you can find those people to confirm your own bias.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWhereas before, when you didn't have that, and if you did feel a certain kind of way in a community or in a neighborhood, you would just stay quiet because you knew that this is wrong.
Speaker COr there's not a lot of people that.
Speaker CThat think like I think or believe what I believe.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CSo now it's just people are way more out and open with.
Speaker CAnd like, that's the part behind it all.
Speaker CThat really scares me.
Speaker BIt scares me, too.
Speaker BI also think during our lifetime, we're going to see the first trillionaire.
Speaker BIt's inevitable.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo the compounding interest works.
Speaker BThat's also the way AI works.
Speaker BIt's going to grow.
Speaker BIt's inevitable.
Speaker BAnd I look at all these things and I think to myself, okay, well, if it's inevitable and we're already seeing it now, and it's meaningfully impacting jobs now, why are we ignoring that humans will be displaced?
Speaker BAnother great example of this is during our lifetime, humans probably won't be allowed to drive cars anymore, right?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CStatistically and scientifically, it'll be proven that it's way safer for everyone.
Speaker CWe can reduce the amount of Deaths by like 90 some percent if, you know, you have a.
Speaker CWhat is it called?
Speaker CA waybo.
Speaker CWhat's it called?
Speaker BWaymo.
Speaker CA wavo.
Speaker CA wavo drives you around.
Speaker AWaymo.
Speaker BWeibos are eggs if you're driving.
Speaker BHuevos.
Speaker CI was gonna say Quavo.
Speaker BI know who it is.
Speaker BThat's funny.
Speaker CQuavo driving you around.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I just think the world is meaningfully changing in a way where humans are going to be left on the sidelines if we continue to act and think like these things aren't impacting us.
Speaker BNow, if people don't drive anymore, that's more time in front of a screen while waiting to get places, then the question is where they're going to go.
Speaker BBecause if we don't need humans for a lot of this work, doctors, lawyers.
Speaker CBut this should scare everybody, this.
Speaker CBut the people, the people that this.
Speaker BIsn'T 100 years from now.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BThis is like in the next 20 years.
Speaker CI mean, probably it'll grow exponentially faster.
Speaker CIt could be next 10 years.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CI mean, they've said the predictions are out, that they are all actively seeking at replacing tens of millions of jobs with AI.
Speaker BSo what do these people do?
Speaker CSo, okay, okay, let's put those people aside, which is a big, big scary part.
Speaker CPut them aside for a second.
Speaker BHumanity that's fine.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CBut most of humanity, plumbers, electricians, still.
Speaker CYeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker BGo learn trade with the new lawyer and Dr. No.
Speaker CBut if 70% of our GDP is comprised of is because of consumer consumerism, how are you going to get consumers to buy anything if they don't have jobs?
Speaker BWell, that seems to be the reoccurring and resounding issue that we're already experiencing.
Speaker CSo the pitch is, okay, we're going to put everybody on universal basic income.
Speaker BWell, again, so to your point, combine that with.
Speaker BCompanies are more and more, more profitable because people are more and more linked in to subscription based service models.
Speaker BThings that they.
Speaker BDude, there are cars that you have to pay a subscription for to get access to features in the cars now.
Speaker BOh, that's right.
Speaker CI remember telling me BMW was like this.
Speaker BMy Rivian's like this.
Speaker BYou can have maps, but you want detailed maps.
Speaker B150 a year.
Speaker CWhat?
Speaker BYeah, man.
Speaker CWhat do you mean?
Speaker CWhat does the detail give me?
Speaker BI can zoom in real, real tight on your backyard.
Speaker AYou can do that with Apple maps too, man.
Speaker BYeah, but they basically give you Google Maps on your Rivian.
Speaker BThere's some other features you get too.
Speaker BNone of which is like hyper meaningful.
Speaker BBut nobody wants to buy a car.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd be like, oh, you know, you could have better maps.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd then somebody sits in your car and you're like, oh, you don't got the, you don't got the paid version, bro.
Speaker BYeah, it's weird, dude.
Speaker CIt's weird.
Speaker BI had the realization today too.
Speaker BOn my car, at any given time, there are three trackers.
Speaker BMy license plate was digital, has a tracker.
Speaker BThe car itself has a tracker.
Speaker BMy wallet has a tracker.
Speaker BThere's a tracker at all times.
Speaker BMy phone has a tracker.
Speaker CBeing tracked all the time.
Speaker BI can't commit a murder.
Speaker BNot saying I ever thought about it, but I'm just saying if I ever wanted to, you know, if I want to do some graffiti, bro, they're gonna know where I'm at.
Speaker CRip Haas.
Speaker CYeah, he can't kill anymore.
Speaker BBuddha killer is passed on.
Speaker CCan't kill.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou don't kill booty.
Speaker CI can't kill nobody.
Speaker BAsk the booty lover.
Speaker CYeah, awesome.
Speaker CBooty lover.
Speaker AI found an article about meta.
Speaker CYeah, let's put it over here.
Speaker CWe got from Reuters.
Speaker CMeta buried casual evidence of social media harm.
Speaker CU S court filings allege plaintiffs alleged meta head product risks from users and authorities.
Speaker CMeta accused of ineffective youth safety features and prioritizing growth over safety.
Speaker CThat's why they that's why they're pimping out those teen accounts.
Speaker BNow, my belief is, is they knew this information would be submitted in court.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker BThey knew it was going to be public record, so they'd get ahead of it by rolling out these accounts.
Speaker CTeen accounts.
Speaker BYeah, teen accounts.
Speaker BAs part of a kind of, like, subtle marketing play ahead of this getting out.
Speaker BSo now if you go to them and say, oh, no, no, no.
Speaker BWhat are you guys talking about?
Speaker BWe just roll out teen accounts.
Speaker BWe're here for you.
Speaker BWe got your back.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CWe love you.
Speaker CYeah, right.
Speaker CDon't stop using us.
Speaker CIt's my love yeah, love said, I was watching NBA game the other day on Amazon Prime.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BYou watched the NBA games?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CCheck this out.
Speaker BWe didn't know.
Speaker BDid you know?
Speaker AHow do you have time, man?
Speaker CThis is crazy.
Speaker CThis is a good question.
Speaker CAmazon prime, watching the game.
Speaker CAnd like, during the game, after an ad is coming up, it literally a little thing pops up saying, add to cart while you're watching tv.
Speaker CYeah, this, like, this is brilliant.
Speaker CHey, this is brilliant.
Speaker CAmazon takes this over.
Speaker CThis is a monopoly, bro.
Speaker BIt's terrible.
Speaker CThis is it.
Speaker CLike, come on, you.
Speaker CI can't watch tv.
Speaker BAbility to buy in their ecosystem is unparalleled.
Speaker BBut you want to hear something funny?
Speaker BThe other day, my dad.
Speaker BMy dad's down the hall in the office, in the studio here.
Speaker BI hear this knock on the door.
Speaker BI'm like, okay, door's locked because I did not want to be disturbed, right?
Speaker BNormally it's open.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I go to the door.
Speaker BMy dad's like, sweating.
Speaker BGot something on the phone.
Speaker BSounds like it's from the Philippines, right?
Speaker BAnd I'm like, he's talking about wife's family or something.
Speaker BLike, what's going on?
Speaker BLike, and he's like, I'm on the phone for two hours.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, okay.
Speaker BHe's like, oh, I just want toner.
Speaker BI'm like, like, facial toner.
Speaker BHe's like, no.
Speaker BFor my printer.
Speaker BAnd I go, okay, who are you calling?
Speaker BHe's like, I'm calling Amazon.
Speaker BI'm like, dad, nobody calls Amazon.
Speaker BWhat are you doing?
Speaker BThis poor Filipino girl from, like, the customer service line was trying to walk my dad through how to buy the right Amazon.
Speaker BThe toner from Amazon.
Speaker CHe doesn't use Amazon Prime.
Speaker CDoesn't.
Speaker BHe has an account, apparently.
Speaker BBut I don't.
Speaker BLike, he's.
Speaker BHe's materially disconnected to the way the world works.
Speaker BSo I'm like, dad, hang out the phone.
Speaker BHe's like, why?
Speaker BShe's so nice.
Speaker BI'm like, yeah, I know, I know she is.
Speaker BShe's not the problem.
Speaker BYou're the problem.
Speaker BSo hangs the phone.
Speaker BI'm like, dad, you know the model, the toner you need?
Speaker BHe's like, yeah, it's N4100, you know, whatever, X.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker BType it in there.
Speaker BIt pops up like, there you go, dad.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHe's like, it's $60 for one.
Speaker BI'm like, actually, it's $60 for two.
Speaker BAnd he's like, I have a guy that normally delivers it, but he passed away.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, of course he did.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, how much you pay?
Speaker BHe's like, I paid 60 bucks for one and it came a week later.
Speaker BI'm like, now you're paying 60 bucks for two and it comes tomorrow.
Speaker BHe looks at me like I was insane, right?
Speaker CI know, I know.
Speaker CAnd there you go.
Speaker CThat, that's the, the death of the mom and pop shop right there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CPeople, people are wanting to cut out, you know, the mom and pop shop just for convenience.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd then I hear about all these people who try to sell on Amazon, but I've never.
Speaker BHave you ever met anybody who sells like products on Amazon?
Speaker CI, I've only known of one person that did really, really well and never spoke to him about like the logistics behind it all, but apparently for a long time he crushed it.
Speaker CI don't know if he's still doing it, but I know.
Speaker CAnd then there's all these courses that.
Speaker BPeople can take and everybody that I knew that was, quote, selling on Amazon always sold the course about how to sell on Amazon.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo I don't know if they're actually making money selling on Amazon.
Speaker BHow funny, it feels like one of those things that's so margined out that you're not going to make a whole lot of profitability unless you're doing tremendous volume.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd at which point, if you're doing tremendous volume, why would you have time to do a course sort of thing?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CUnless it's just prerecorded.
Speaker CYou just saw the course.
Speaker BYeah, I don't, I don't know about all that.
Speaker BLike all that.
Speaker CYeah, I need the follow up.
Speaker CYou got to, got to be able to get the follow up questions.
Speaker BSo as we noted earlier, hiring has slowed significantly even as output and productivity remain stable.
Speaker BSo this growth without payroll situation is becoming real.
Speaker BConsumer confidence recently dropped to its lowest in months according to Yahoo Finance.
Speaker BThat's showing up in softer retail numbers as say.
Speaker BAnd I've talked about discretionary spending, certainly coming down.
Speaker BHome Depot clearly evidences that this affects everything from housing to default risk.
Speaker BAnd we are seeing some mortgage defaults rise.
Speaker BNot what I would call an alarming ratio because people keep talking about it in percentage of defaults.
Speaker BLike, oh, defaults are up 20%.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut they were also at historic lows, so not a meaningful increase in my mind.
Speaker BWe will have to see how this all pans out for Black Friday.
Speaker BSo two days from now, will it be a very prosperous Black Friday?
Speaker CYou an avid shopper on Black Friday?
Speaker BNo, I hate it.
Speaker BI don't even want to be in public on Black Friday.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CNot even that.
Speaker CJust even online or, like, for Cyber Monday.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CWhat about you, Rigil?
Speaker ANot for Black Friday, because I worked in retail a lot when I was younger.
Speaker COh, really?
Speaker AHated it, man.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt started off like, on Friday, we opened at, like, 10am and then as years go by, it's earlier and earlier.
Speaker AThen next, you know, on Thanksgiving, we open at 6pm oh, for black Friday.
Speaker COh, you're starting way.
Speaker AThere's still people lined up lines across the whole store.
Speaker CFor me, I always felt like it was a hustle.
Speaker BI swear to God, this year, Black Friday deals started, like, November 1st.
Speaker CThey're already had.
Speaker CThey're already signaling.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat new TV we bought for the thing over here.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BThat was literally a Black Friday deal.
Speaker BI'm like, it's not Black Friday, though.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BBut I was like, all right.
Speaker CThey just want to get out ahead of it.
Speaker BI'll never forget, my sister used to physically go to, like, Black Friday stuff.
Speaker BThey used to make, like, an evening of it where they'd go out, like, midnight and they shop, like, all night long.
Speaker BThey come home exhausted.
Speaker BI'm sitting myself, like, hey, why?
Speaker BNumber one.
Speaker BNumber two, I went one year, people literally fought, like, in Walmarts.
Speaker COh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BLike 100 brawls are breaking.
Speaker CI mean, but you got to think if.
Speaker CIf you believe in any of the data that's coming out, right.
Speaker CThere's not a lot of discretionary cash that people are holding on to, to spend.
Speaker CSo if you can get out in front of it and get somebody to lock in.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CThat's why it's probably creeping up earlier and earlier and early.
Speaker BI think you're gonna have a pretty good Black Friday season this year.
Speaker BI. I would be shocked if it disappoints.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think.
Speaker BI think the problem is, is you've had a longer time Run because people can include Black Friday spending going all the way back to November 1st.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's what I started happening, is trying to get ahead of what they think are going to be low numbers.
Speaker BNumber one, they're going to have a longer time period.
Speaker BNumber two, I think there's such a disconnect currently to people wanting the dopamine of getting a win.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo they want a dopamine of getting a deal.
Speaker BAnd to me, this is kind of like that impetus before the fall.
Speaker BPeople go like, okay, I'm in denial.
Speaker BI want the dopamine of getting something at a discount.
Speaker BMakes me feel good about life, so I'm gonna go do this.
Speaker BBut then the repercussions hit hard.
Speaker BI. I think if you're gonna see weakness, it's gonna be in December.
Speaker BSpending for Christmas.
Speaker CFor Christmas.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think that's for the weekend's gonna come from.
Speaker BI think Black Friday deals are still gonna be there.
Speaker BPeople are gonna be all sorts of trip to fan high.
Speaker CSo my father, my father in law gave the kids each a hundred bucks to spend on Black Friday because they just now know what Black Friday is.
Speaker BOh, cool.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CSo my, My daughter goes to her piggy bank and she opens it up and she wants to take out additional cash, like just in case I need it.
Speaker BI mean, she's not lying, right?
Speaker CI'm like, okay.
Speaker CGod.
Speaker CAdam's the complete opposite.
Speaker CHe's like, dad, you spend your money.
Speaker CI'm not spending any of my money.
Speaker CHe's already thinking about saving it.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CMy daughter Aria, I want to spend it.
Speaker CI'm like, okay.
Speaker CShe goes to her piggy bank.
Speaker CShe tries to pull out an additional.
Speaker CSome additional cash.
Speaker CThere's only like a 20 and a one in there.
Speaker CAnd she finds.
Speaker CThis is how she finds out that we empty it out and deposit it into.
Speaker CInto her account.
Speaker CShe's like, where's the rest of my money?
Speaker BOh, we.
Speaker CWe already deposited, sweetheart.
Speaker CThat's it.
Speaker BIs it a high yield savings?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CWhat's that, dad?
Speaker CYeah, exactly.
Speaker BBitcoin.
Speaker CIt's invested, girl.
Speaker BWhat you mean?
Speaker BYeah, it's not invested in cryptocurrency.
Speaker BHoney, Daddy doesn't have.
Speaker CDaddy got paper hands.
Speaker BOh, man, the market is so weird.
Speaker BSo US Consumer confidence tanks in November as Americans see more financial pain Head this from Yahoo Finance.
Speaker BUS Consumer confidence nose dive in December.
Speaker BIn November, as Americans saw sour signs ahead for the economy.
Speaker BConsumer confidence board's reading hit 88.7 in November, down 6.8 points from October's level of 95.5.
Speaker BIts measure of consumers short term expectations for income, business and labor market conditions also dragged lower to 63.2, remaining well below the threshold of 80.
Speaker BThat the confidence board says typically signals a recession ahead.
Speaker BSo consumer confidence is in fact flashing red for recessionary trending.
Speaker BI will say it has done this before in recent years and there's not been a recession.
Speaker BSo grain of salt.
Speaker BNovember was a tenth consecutive month with a reading below 80.
Speaker BThat's where it gets difficult.
Speaker BSo the overwhelming majority of this year, consecutively for 10 months, it has been in recession territory.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker C100%.
Speaker CYeah, that's a, that's a.
Speaker CAnd, and when the Fed or anybody, you know, points to.
Speaker CBut unemployment rates still historically low.
Speaker COkay, Just because people are employed doesn't mean they've had, they're not working multiple jobs.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CIt doesn't mean that they're, they're earning less than they were before.
Speaker BI'll say right now.
Speaker BYeah, these are the elephant.
Speaker BIt's in the room.
Speaker CIt's in the room.
Speaker BLet's check.
Speaker BLet's.
Speaker BLet's take the trunk out.
Speaker BOkay, look.
Speaker BYeah, they might not be unemployed, sure.
Speaker BBut they just had about 20% real world cost of living go up.
Speaker BThey probably got a 3% salary increase.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker BFor most people in America, a 15ish to 20ish percent change in your cost of living is enough to make you feel like life sucks and for us to go, ah, I don't feel it.
Speaker BOkay, well, maybe you're in the middle class, dude.
Speaker BMaybe you're like a little more conscious of your spending now because of that difference.
Speaker BBut for a lot of Americans, they're like, dude, this sucks.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker COh, yeah.
Speaker CYeah, man.
Speaker BSo, yeah, you didn't lose your job.
Speaker BCongratulations.
Speaker BYou just feel like you lost, got a salary decrease, which is not fun.
Speaker BThis is why I keep pointing back to real wage inflation has not kept up with everything else.
Speaker BSo what does a consumer do?
Speaker BThey start to freak out for 10 consecutive months while the economy goes woo, woo, Nvidia woo.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BAnd then you get someone like Michael Burry coming in going like, all right, I'm out.
Speaker BYahtzee.
Speaker BI can't do it.
Speaker BThis makes no sense.
Speaker BThere's no fundamental math here that makes this make sense.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BThen you bet against the market for about a billion dollars again.
Speaker BConsumer confidence tumbled in November to its second lowest level since April after moving sideways for several months.
Speaker BDana Peterson, chief economist at the conference board, said in a statement, there is no question that many Americans harbor pessimistic Views about the economy.
Speaker BThough unemployment remains low by historical standards, the jobless rate in September was at its highest level since October 2021.
Speaker BI mean, these are not good signs.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut there's also nothing.
Speaker BThere's no like, smoking gun here, which is again, the counter argument to all this stuff.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BChris, you're so negative.
Speaker BBut what a smoking gun.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CYou're a perma bear.
Speaker BYeah, Perma bear.
Speaker BI like to think that is jailhouse term.
Speaker CIt is a jailhouse term.
Speaker CYou would know.
Speaker BI've been to jail several times.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BTo visit people, I think.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BIt's blurry.
Speaker BSo, yeah, we've got a very tumultuous market this Larry on.
Speaker BOf course, you've got credit markets, liquidity, hidden risk, private credit, tech borrowing.
Speaker BThere's all sorts of weird things.
Speaker BAccording to recent institutional commentary, there's still massive liquidity in the US market.
Speaker BSo you think, okay, Chris, there's all this liquidity there that means good things.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BDry powder, which could flow in equities or credit if sentiment holds.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CI mean, so that whole argument with, you know, there's.
Speaker CThere was all that stimulus that was injected into the economy and that people are still flush with cash.
Speaker CI think the people that needed that cash spent that money a long time ago.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CSo I think when, what listeners should know when, when we say that or articles reference that it's these private companies that, that have been sitting and holding onto their cash and building their cash position.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CThat's still, right now, a good, a good position to be in.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSitting on large amounts of cash.
Speaker CI mean, look no further than Berkshire Hathaway.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CSitting on record levels of cash.
Speaker BNo, no, it is.
Speaker BI just said, you know, I look at stuff like that.
Speaker BI think to myself, okay, they're sitting on record levels of cash.
Speaker BAnd like literally a year ago when he brought that up, people were like, oh, you just don't understand their, their cash model or, oh, Warren Buffett's just looking to hand over a company to somebody with the most liquid position so they can invest.
Speaker CIs that what.
Speaker CIs that what they were saying?
Speaker BOh, there's all sorts of contradictory arguments.
Speaker BI think the fact of the matter is, is it's a large amount of money for him, for anybody.
Speaker BIs it unusual for him?
Speaker BI think so, yeah.
Speaker BLarge amount of cash ever.
Speaker BBut does it signal something?
Speaker B100%.
Speaker BIt does.
Speaker BIt signals that he feels that is the safest place for his money.
Speaker BThis is not a guy who's a risk taker.
Speaker BInvestor.
Speaker BHe's the least risky investor ever when it comes to fundamentals.
Speaker CAnd he's literally known for investing his money.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker CSo if, if there was an investment to be made, he would have made it.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BAnd because of that, I look at the market, I think, okay, well, he's a warning sign.
Speaker BYou got Michael Burry, who bets against the markets big.
Speaker BAnd he's been wrong before.
Speaker BHe has been very, very right.
Speaker BOne time broken clock, right twice a day.
Speaker BI get it.
Speaker BYou've got life changing technology for humanity coming down the pipeline, which arguably is already impacting things.
Speaker BYou look at the MIT study, regardless of the think tank they took it to and the laboratory that they worked in, 11.7% of jobs is a meaningful shift in the market to my mind.
Speaker BImagine if we had 11.7 people in the world lose their jobs and unemployment was double what it is now, if not more.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CAnd that's the new norm.
Speaker BThat's the new norm, yeah.
Speaker BBecause these people don't have jobs.
Speaker BAnd let's just say you worked as a receptionist.
Speaker BAI can replace you.
Speaker BLet's say you worked as an attorney for immigration law.
Speaker BThis can replace you.
Speaker BIt's form driven.
Speaker BNow, let's just say you're a doctor and you're a general practitioner.
Speaker BWell, let's just say AI can look at your wearable technology, get your temperature, get your heart, your rhythms, do all the stuff that doctors normally check for in a normal basic checkup and make a recommendation for you to a specialist based on what it's reading from your data in real time.
Speaker BI mean, at what point do we go down this daisy chain?
Speaker BPeople are going to start going like, you know what, I should probably take this seriously.
Speaker BI feel like society is my dad.
Speaker BThey're all on the phone trying to call Amazon, acting like this is normal life still.
Speaker BYeah, people don't do that, bro.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BThis is there for you because it makes you feel comfortable.
Speaker BIt's not there for you because it's going to fix the problem.
Speaker CBut how this all gets implemented, like in a, in a way to where people just accept it, that's the part that's going to be interesting.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CNot everybody, not every company is going to be able to do it all at once.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CBut I feel like the companies that don't adopt that model, like it's up, it's up to, it's up to everybody else to highlight the companies that don't, that don't do it.
Speaker BYou want a shitty prediction?
Speaker BImagine talking to AI and wanting help from a customer service perspective because, you know, that's where this goes.
Speaker BPay for a call center, have one AI LLM.
Speaker BThat's what you're going to have.
Speaker BBut already I'll use my metag glasses, which I'm wearing tonight on the show.
Speaker BThey got shipped from China to the U.S. u.S. Back to China, China back to the U.S. and this whole debacle, which wound up being nonsensical through customs.
Speaker BI could not get anyone from Meta in an email or chat or anything meaningful.
Speaker BAnd it's like, okay, well, yeah, they deploy the technology vis a vis social media and presentations and seminars, but sold it in Best Buys and other third parties.
Speaker BYeah, there's not a contact information for these people.
Speaker BYou can't call customer service.
Speaker BAnd if you're them, you go, why would I want people to be able to call me?
Speaker CYeah, exactly.
Speaker BWe'll get it done.
Speaker BWhat's your problem?
Speaker BYou know how it works.
Speaker BGo online, search for.
Speaker BSearch for the answer.
Speaker BAt some point, you put an LLM there, and they don't even have people you can talk.
Speaker BI mean, there's fundamentally no one you can reach out to.
Speaker BNo one.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIt's not gonna stop people from buying.
Speaker BWhat does that do to us if customer service becomes.
Speaker BWhy are you expecting customer service?
Speaker BGo talk to the.
Speaker BTo the Knowing all machine.
Speaker BStop kicking my feet tonight, bro.
Speaker BWhat's going on down there?
Speaker CYou're six foot six, bro.
Speaker BIs it your feet moving around?
Speaker BIs that what it is?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CI'm stretching out my legs, though.
Speaker CYou're stretching out your legs?
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Speaker BYeah, we are.
Speaker CWhat does that do to us as a society?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI've got a present for you.
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Speaker CYou're being serious live on the show?
Speaker CI got to give a library.
Speaker CI'm really bad at giving reactions, man.
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Speaker CHold on.
Speaker CIt's true.
Speaker CHepatitis A can be spread through toilets if an infected person does not wash their hands properly after using the bathroom.
Speaker BWhat's wrong with you?
Speaker CHey, nobody wants to get hepatitis, bro.
Speaker CHepatitis A. Jeez.
Speaker CAnd mind you, your urine is only sterile to you, sir.
Speaker BDon't shout at me, bro.
Speaker CThat's from a registered nurse.
Speaker BDon't shout.
Speaker CA registered nurse.
Speaker CNurse left us a comment on the.
Speaker COn the last show.
Speaker CShe wanted to make sure that we understood that your urine is sterile to you and only you, not to other people.
Speaker BOkay, I get it.
Speaker BI get it.
Speaker BJust.
Speaker CThat's on the seat.
Speaker CThat's why you need the.
Speaker CThe.
Speaker CWhat'd you call it?
Speaker CThe wax gasket.
Speaker CWhat'd you call it?
Speaker BThe wax paper ass gasket.
Speaker CYeah, the wax paper ass gasket.
Speaker BWpags.
Speaker CWpags.
Speaker CThat's what.
Speaker CThat's what they're called.
Speaker BWpags.
Speaker BWhat do you call them?
Speaker CDude, there's so.
Speaker CThere's so many, like, things out there that I didn't realize.
Speaker CLike, for instance, like Tupperware.
Speaker CThat's the name of a company.
Speaker CThat's not the name of the actual thing that you're using.
Speaker CThat's just a plastic container.
Speaker BThat's right, right.
Speaker CZiploc.
Speaker BThat's the name of the company.
Speaker CSo what do you call.
Speaker CWhat is it?
Speaker CWhat is a Ziploc?
Speaker BIt's a plastic bag.
Speaker CIt's just a plastic.
Speaker CNo, but it's got a seal, right?
Speaker BI'm not a big fan of Ziploc bags.
Speaker CJacuzzi.
Speaker CIt's not a Jacuzzi.
Speaker CThat's a Brand.
Speaker CYeah, it's called.
Speaker CIt's a spa.
Speaker CIt's a hot tub.
Speaker CIt's a hot tub.
Speaker BI don't like spa.
Speaker BSpa makes me feel like I'm going over a retreat.
Speaker CA retreat?
Speaker BHave you been to a retreat, like a spa?
Speaker CNo.
Speaker CThe kind of retreat that you're referencing.
Speaker BI never, never gotten, like, one of.
Speaker CThose mud ones, like the shaman ones.
Speaker BYou're in, the Korean ones, where you go to the Korean spot, they give.
Speaker CYou a scrub that looks like.
Speaker CThat looks like a certain type of dungeon.
Speaker CI know I can't do that.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BThose are sensational.
Speaker CTalked about this when you were showing me houses.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker CWe went into a house, and it looked like it was a Korean spot.
Speaker BThat was creepy.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd then we found out that we thought we were viewing the home.
Speaker CThis is true story.
Speaker CWe thought we were viewing the home by ourselves.
Speaker CAnd they were just in the garage.
Speaker BYeah, they were just hiding in the garage where you were looking at the house.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BYou remember those dogs in the backyard that.
Speaker BRunning around like all nuts, barking like crazy.
Speaker CNow we know.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BBecause they're German shepherds.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe people were in the garage, locked themselves in.
Speaker CI'm like, yeah, this.
Speaker CI feel like this is a sign.
Speaker BThat was weird.
Speaker CThat was a weird.
Speaker BWhole situation was weird.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut their entire bathroom, when you walked in, Rachel, it was crazy.
Speaker BThe entire thing was, like, this weird.
Speaker BIt was a green tile or blue.
Speaker CTile, I think it was.
Speaker BIt was blue, right?
Speaker CColorblind.
Speaker CAh.
Speaker BFun fact.
Speaker BMeta display glasses as part of the setup.
Speaker BI didn't know this.
Speaker BThey actually have a colorblind adjustment.
Speaker BThey call it the Saeed.
Speaker CSo I would be able to see purple.
Speaker BI have no idea how it works.
Speaker BI'm not colorblind.
Speaker CThe irony, right, that I'm colorblind.
Speaker CI can't see purple, but my favorite team's the Lakers.
Speaker AWhat color is this can right here?
Speaker CThis is a meme.
Speaker BWhat color is the can?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CNo, it's grape.
Speaker CGrape is purple.
Speaker CI know that.
Speaker BSo we understand that you understand the color blue.
Speaker CIt all looks blue.
Speaker CLike a darker shade of blue.
Speaker BThis looks blue.
Speaker CLike a darker shade of blue.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI don't know the difference.
Speaker AWhat about the other can under the monitor?
Speaker BWhat about the.
Speaker BThese.
Speaker BThese cans, right?
Speaker CYeah, just a different shade of blue.
Speaker BThese all look blue to you?
Speaker BReally?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIt's unfortunate.
Speaker CIt's like.
Speaker CIt's like a sick joke God is playing on me.
Speaker AHe's like, make this guy sing blue Dabadita.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI'm gonna make him like the Lakers.
Speaker CBut you can't really see it, though.
Speaker BSo when Lakers wear, like, their throwback blue jerseys.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI always.
Speaker CI always.
Speaker CI always thought that they were.
Speaker CWhen.
Speaker CSo when they were saying the team's purple and gold, I'm like, no, they're not.
Speaker CWhat are you talking about?
Speaker BGold?
Speaker BAre you.
Speaker CYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker CWhat are you talking about?
Speaker BWhat other colors can you not see?
Speaker CSometimes red and greens.
Speaker CWhen they blend, they blend together.
Speaker CSo Christmas time is a really difficult time for me.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLight thing to me is just like, I don't want you driving anywhere.
Speaker CI'm arguably the best driver in this room.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBecause you can't tell whether to go or stop.
Speaker CI'm the.
Speaker CI'm the safest.
Speaker CI'm the safest driver.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CMind you, I. I'm official.
Speaker CLook, it.
Speaker BI hate.
Speaker BThe only thing preventing you from dying is you knowing if the light on top or light on bottom is.
Speaker CYeah, I know.
Speaker BThat's all.
Speaker BYou don't.
Speaker BCan't tell the difference in the color?
Speaker CNo, no, I can't.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker CIt.
Speaker CIt's its own color to me.
Speaker CIt's not that it's the same color.
Speaker CSo the green light doesn't look green.
Speaker CIt looks white.
Speaker BI'm sorry.
Speaker BSo your.
Speaker BYour colors are red and white?
Speaker CNo, so.
Speaker CAnd then red looks orange.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker CSo if anything, if any, my probability.
Speaker BOf death is based on using orange or white.
Speaker CNo, no, no.
Speaker CYour probability of death is actually, it makes me safer because red and yellow look more similar.
Speaker CSo I just naturally am preparing to break on red.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker CThat's.
Speaker CI think it's a red.
Speaker BThis does not make me feel safer with driving with you anywhere.
Speaker CWhy?
Speaker BYou would not be allowed to drive me anywhere.
Speaker BYou're not allowed to drive me anywhere.
Speaker BNo, Never going to happen.
Speaker CSlide.
Speaker BNot happening.
Speaker CCome on.
Speaker BYou can always be a passenger in my car.
Speaker BYou never drive me.
Speaker BWould you feel comfortable, that guy driving you anywhere?
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AThis is probably going to end up Poly Market now.
Speaker BOdds of saying crash in the next two weeks.
Speaker B58.
Speaker CHe doesn't understand.
Speaker CThis is the long play of me saving gas money.
Speaker BThat's fine.
Speaker BI have to save my life.
Speaker BYeah, can't have that.
Speaker AYour car is electric, man.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker ABoth your cars are electric?
Speaker CYeah, the one.
Speaker CI. I drive my wife's car here.
Speaker CYeah, yeah, the ID4, bro.
Speaker BIgor charged me five grand last week.
Speaker CFor the car?
Speaker BYeah, for the BMW, which.
Speaker CI mean, is he working on both?
Speaker BThe Datsun, too?
Speaker CYeah, he's working on both.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I'll just get random charges.
Speaker CDo you tell him, like, hey, once you stop working on this, I want.
Speaker BYou working last week.
Speaker COr do you let him, like, kind of freestyle, like, do what you feel is right.
Speaker BThey send me pictures and I'm like, bro, it doesn't look like this.
Speaker BLooks like you just put some glue on it.
Speaker CYeah, that has to have happened, right where he send you a photo.
Speaker CYou're like, what did you do?
Speaker BNo, I mean, usually you can tell parts look new and they used to look old.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker BBut for the most part, you're like, they were $5,000.
Speaker AThat's his subscription fee.
Speaker CHe's listening to the.
Speaker CYou know, he's listening to this episode, too.
Speaker BYou are?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHe doesn't listen.
Speaker BThe ends.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BEarly.
Speaker BYeah, he's in the beginning.
Speaker BListen, your episode, bro, what was it about?
Speaker BOh, stuff.
Speaker BStuff.
Speaker CTalk about that J.P. guy again.
Speaker BYeah, He's a big fan, though.
Speaker BHe does listen a lot.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ANice guy.
Speaker CThanksgiving tomorrow.
Speaker CYou making anything?
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BWhat are you making?
Speaker BI'm making jalapeno cornbread.
Speaker BIt's kind of something that I started making.
Speaker CThat's your go.
Speaker CThat's your thing.
Speaker BI don't know why people like it.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's just like a spicier cornbread.
Speaker BA little bit of honey.
Speaker BSo it's got a little bit of sweetness to it.
Speaker BAnd I dump a ton of butter into it.
Speaker BFor some reason, I made it like three or four years ago, and people liked it, so I just keep making it.
Speaker CI'm making corn casserole.
Speaker BOh, you really?
Speaker BI saw one of those recently.
Speaker BMy wife sent me a picture of one.
Speaker CIt's delicious.
Speaker BIt looked really good.
Speaker CIt's probably my favorite side dish.
Speaker BBut to you, it looks white.
Speaker CNo, that looks yellow.
Speaker BAre you sure?
Speaker BYeah, it said orange and white.
Speaker CI know you guys, all you guys all at your house cook too, right?
Speaker CSo what are you making?
Speaker AYeah, we do.
Speaker ABut this year, the wife and the son and I are gonna go to Disneyland.
Speaker BSo turkey leg.
Speaker ALive a little.
Speaker AMagical.
Speaker COh, yeah.
Speaker CThey just have turkey year round over there.
Speaker BTurkey legs all year round.
Speaker CI've never ate one of those massive turkey legs.
Speaker BI have never either.
Speaker AYou gotta.
Speaker AYou gotta go there with a bag of Hawaiian buns and some barbecue sauce and just.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AMake some sandwiches, right?
Speaker BI gotta be honest, man.
Speaker BI can't be walking anywhere that in my bag.
Speaker BGod forbid.
Speaker BI have a heart attack if somebody goes to my stuff one day.
Speaker BI get robbed, bro.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BI'm always this dude had a wine, rolls of barbecue sauce.
Speaker CI always think like that too.
Speaker CAnytime we, like, leave the house for like an extended period of time, if we're going somewhere for the day, I always make sure that the house is like clean and spotless in case I die and somebody, they gotta come to the house after, like, God damn, this guy's living like a mess.
Speaker BYou know, I routinely do.
Speaker BI won't go to the gym because I'll lift like Olympic lifts with no shoes on.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut I'll go to the gym sometimes and forget that I got holes in my socks or something.
Speaker BYou don't want to be like, dude, it looks like mildly homeless at the gym.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CWhat are you doing, bro?
Speaker BI don't really shave right now.
Speaker CIt looks like you're investing in Equinox.
Speaker CYeah, but it's like, you can't buy new socks, bro.
Speaker CThat's disgusting.
Speaker BOh, sorry, guys.
Speaker AYeah, Black Friday is coming up, so there you go.
Speaker BI refuse to do it.
Speaker CNot even socks, huh?
Speaker BNope, nope.
Speaker BNothing.
Speaker BI will not support this.
Speaker BI'm trying to tank the economy on my own.
Speaker CI don't.
Speaker BI would.
Speaker CHonestly, I don't support.
Speaker CI don't support Black Friday shopping at all either.
Speaker CI refuse.
Speaker CI absolutely refuse.
Speaker CI'd rather pay full price.
Speaker AOkay, well, I got some stuff right here.
Speaker AYou can pay full price for the higher standard merch.
Speaker BI'd love to tell you that we give you a Black Friday deal.
Speaker BExcept we're selling it at cost.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo what?
Speaker CI mean, it's already a year round.
Speaker CBlack Friday deals.
Speaker BCome on now.
Speaker COr we could do like other companies, just mark it up and then discount it for Black Friday.
Speaker CSo it's the same price.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHey, everybody.
Speaker BThe all facts no cap hoodie, which normally retails at a hundred dollars, is actually on sale for less than 40.
Speaker CYeah, you're welcome.
Speaker BHappy Black Friday.
Speaker BDiscount code is.
Speaker BI don't think so.
Speaker CYeah, this is.
Speaker CThis sweatshirt right here is actually.
Speaker CI really like this one.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CIt's really soft.
Speaker BIt's funny how neither one of you have it, but I have this one.
Speaker BOh, you do?
Speaker CYes, I've worn it on the show.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI gotta be honest, I don't remember that.
Speaker CI've been thinking about growing my beard like this guy.
Speaker BYou should.
Speaker BLong beard.
Speaker BYeah, I would love that.
Speaker CYeah, long beard on me.
Speaker CIt's just.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI thought that was you when I first saw it.
Speaker BNo, it looks good.
Speaker CI mean, obviously the mustache ain't it though.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BYou can't go like one of the Ukrainian dudes where you shave the mustache.
Speaker CNo, you Gotta clean.
Speaker CNo, not.
Speaker CNo, not like.
Speaker CThat's wild.
Speaker CYeah, Yeah.
Speaker CI don't like that look.
Speaker BThe big bushy mustache where they shave the top.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BI don't like that look either.
Speaker BIt looks a little too European.
Speaker CWhich, by the way, all those Dagestani guys in the ufc, they're all in my feed right now, so.
Speaker CI liked one video.
Speaker CIt's just like, non stop.
Speaker CNon stop here, man.
Speaker BYou too.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AIslam wanting put double belts on.
Speaker CYeah, that was pretty epic.
Speaker BThose guys are animals, man.
Speaker BLike, they.
Speaker BThey fight with a passion that's, like, palpable.
Speaker BYou could see it.
Speaker CYeah, there was a.
Speaker CYou know that streamer?
Speaker BThat.
Speaker CA massive streamer.
Speaker CAiden Ross.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker CHe went out there.
Speaker BI saw that.
Speaker CYou saw that?
Speaker BThey started punking him.
Speaker CThey started and just toying with him, and they.
Speaker CThey literally.
Speaker CHe came with his security guard.
Speaker CHe's like, brother, you came with security guard?
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker CWhat's he gonna do?
Speaker BYeah, he's at a.
Speaker BHe's at a compound in Dagestan or wherever he's at.
Speaker CWhat is he gonna do?
Speaker BYeah, all trained fighters.
Speaker CAnd it was funny because he was like.
Speaker CThey were warming up, rounding the mats for like 10 minutes, and he had.
Speaker CDid you.
Speaker CSo you saw this?
Speaker CHe had his phone with him the entire time.
Speaker CHe said, what are you gonna do?
Speaker CWhy are you holding your phone?
Speaker CYou're gonna call the police?
Speaker CWhat are the police gonna do?
Speaker BIt's such a weird, different world out there.
Speaker CSo funny.
Speaker BYou just tell.
Speaker BLike, it was.
Speaker BIt was.
Speaker BThey were laughing at it, but at the same time, like, Aiden was laughing.
Speaker CNo, no.
Speaker BYeah, the light bulb went on.
Speaker CNo, it was.
Speaker CIt was extremely awkward for him.
Speaker CAnd when they.
Speaker CWhen he was rolling around with one of the guys who wasn't even.
Speaker CHe doesn't even fight in the UFC or anything.
Speaker CHe's just, I think a guy that rolls around with him.
Speaker CLike, he made him, like, black out for a second.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CLike, he tapped in.
Speaker CHe didn't listen.
Speaker BHe kept going.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CCrazy.
Speaker BI've been trying to do that to you for years.
Speaker BYeah, I got invited.
Speaker BBy.
Speaker BBy who?
Speaker CAli.
Speaker BI know you're the boss, sir.
Speaker CThat's why you never asked.
Speaker BOh, invitation.
Speaker CBut he wanna go match with me.
Speaker BWho are you?
Speaker BOh, my name is Aiden, sir.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CWhat are you doing for life?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI question myself every day.
Speaker CHe challenged me.
Speaker CYou want to do crap?
Speaker CNo, go back.
Speaker CAnd then later in the episode when after he leaves, he tells me, he's like, next time, wear different shorts.
Speaker BOh, it's wearing pink shorts.
Speaker BYeah, that's.
Speaker CBro, that's.
Speaker CThat's a lot.
Speaker BYou can tell it was serious.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CBro, you're.
Speaker CAnd that was in Dagestan, right?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker BYeah, it was.
Speaker BIt was at his compound.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CTraining is life for these guys.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CThey asked.
Speaker CThey asked Islam, I think, before the fight or after the fight, he's like, you just had a kid, right?
Speaker CLike, congratulations.
Speaker CLike, how do you do it?
Speaker CYou know, with, like, training, he's just like, I don't see my kids.
Speaker CI just train, just focused, bro.
Speaker CWhen you're that great, it's like, I'm gonna be great.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker BIt's a different lifestyle.
Speaker CYeah, I'm just gonna be great.
Speaker CThat's all I'm focused on.
Speaker AI've seen videos of them fighting with bears.
Speaker COh, yeah.
Speaker CThat's the real thing.
Speaker CKhabib.
Speaker CKhabib's dad, right?
Speaker CThey used to make them train, and they would wrestle bears, like, when they were younger.
Speaker CAnd he.
Speaker CWhen one of the first times he went, the dad made him.
Speaker CHe's like, dad, what if he bites me?
Speaker CAs a kid, he's telling his dad, what if he bites me?
Speaker CHe's like, bite him back.
Speaker CYou can't make this up, bro.
Speaker CThat's it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CIt goes to show you, man, it's like, I feel like gentle parenting out here has gone a little bit too much.
Speaker CI'm not saying that's the right way.
Speaker CAnd I'm also saying what.
Speaker CWhat we're growing accustomed to seeing here.
Speaker CI'm also feeling like it's become a little too much.
Speaker CWe need.
Speaker CWe need to.
Speaker CWe need to take the kids back to the 90s.
Speaker CAt least show them the 90s way, right?
Speaker BI. I do not want to get canceled tonight.
Speaker BYou guys are touching all the topics that I can't touch.
Speaker CWhat's nothing wrong with that?
Speaker CWell, I got.
Speaker CHey, I was raised in the 90s.
Speaker BNo, no, I get it.
Speaker BI'm just saying, like, you're not the one getting sued for now.
Speaker CNot for this.
Speaker BI'm just saying everything I say is good.
Speaker BLook, I told you, he's a bad person.
Speaker CLook, look, he wants to go back to the 90s.
Speaker BHe wants to slap kids, and he was talking about Muslim fighters on a show.
Speaker BIt's like, I'm not doing that.
Speaker AAnd gambling.
Speaker BYeah, and gambling.
Speaker BLike, come on.
Speaker BSo I ate paper hands trying to give me lawsuits.
Speaker BSuit it up.
Speaker BCome on, bro.
Speaker CYou don't go.
Speaker CYou don't hit on polymarket.
Speaker BOh, I thought it was polygamy market.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BHow do I buy a wife?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAll right, man.
Speaker CYou got anything else?
Speaker CRil, you got anything?
Speaker ANo, just everyone.
Speaker AHave a happy holiday, Thanksgiving.
Speaker ASpend some time with your families and live life to the fullest.
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Speaker BThat's right.
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Speaker BYou don't know how to spell it or something?
Speaker CNo, I just wanted to make sure Not.
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Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou got anything?
Speaker BNope.
Speaker BI'm done.
Speaker BI'm probably going to get sued.
Speaker CHappy?
Speaker CAll right.
Speaker CHappy Thanksgiving, sir.
Speaker BCheers.
Speaker BAll right, bye.
Speaker BGood night, everybody.
Speaker CWhy would you get sued?
Speaker BYou kidding me?