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Speaker:Welcome in everybody, it's the Craft Beer Republic. Thanks for drinking, thanks
Speaker:for joining. I am Greg,
Speaker:and I am being joined by the maltiest fella on the fresh coast, and that is
Speaker:Flexy. What's up big
Speaker:fella? You know, just drinking and joining, or something. Yeah, a lot of malty
Speaker:beers lately,
Speaker:though. Yeah, which is actually, so you know me pretty well, not my thing. I
Speaker:know, very supportive.
Speaker:Not my thing. Right. But not my go-to. Sure, but usually it's a little hazier.
Speaker:It is one of my
Speaker:favorite times of the year, so. Yes. We'll get into that in a couple of few. A
Speaker:lot to get to
Speaker:today. I did a little extra curricular research, if you will. That was hard to
Speaker:say for some reason.
Speaker:Well, now I'm extra curious. We got a voicemail, we've got some booze news to
Speaker:get to, and yeah,
Speaker:so let's get right into it. Let's crack things off with asking a very important
Speaker:question.
Speaker:In a world where craft beer is king, a world where muscles are bigger than grow
Speaker:lers,
Speaker:only one tongue can guide us. One man. One tongue. One Tongue Jobber.
Speaker:In this world, we must find out, what is Flex drinking?
Speaker:Well, roll out the barrel.
Speaker:That's the song we sing at brewery games. Oh, okay. Seventh inning stretch. Oh,
Speaker:it's not taking
Speaker:me out to the ballgame. So they do to take me out to the ballgame and roll up
Speaker:the barrel.
Speaker:Roll out the barrel. Sing us a song of good cheer. Roll out the barrel. Nah,
Speaker:you're dumb.
Speaker:Sorry. It's like a polka Polish thing. Yeah, it tracks. Yeah. Pretty South side
Speaker:of Wisconsin.
Speaker:Well, any weasels. We on that roll. We drink in that Oktoberfest. Can't stop,
Speaker:won't stop.
Speaker:I like the name. And today, so I'm doing the MKE Brewing Oktoberfest. I talked
Speaker:about it last week.
Speaker:I did not rank it in my rankings because I knew I was going to have it on this
Speaker:show.
Speaker:So this on the front of the can, first of all, this can art, it's simple. It's
Speaker:great.
Speaker:It is very German Oktoberfest. Yep. Gets the job done. It is great. And this
Speaker:one does say it is a
Speaker:Minertzen style lager. Says our Oktoberfest is traditionally brewed with pale
Speaker:ale, caramel,
Speaker:and toasted Munich malts that attribute a sweet, earthy, multi-flavor, toasted
Speaker:aroma,
Speaker:and a bright orange hue. So this beer, it's got that coppery, brown, orange,
Speaker:classic.
Speaker:Mm hmm. Mierten style color. The correct color. And the old sniffer, it's it's
Speaker:kind of light.
Speaker:Not a huge aroma here. Slightly malty, I would say. A little bit of sweetness
Speaker:behind that,
Speaker:which makes sense from the sugars. Mm hmm. So then we'll get the warm up the
Speaker:old
Speaker:Zungenjammer. Yeah. OK. OK. So comparing to last week's where I said not a lot
Speaker:of carbonation,
Speaker:this one's a little bit more carbonated. I don't know what does that because I
Speaker:don't know how to
Speaker:brew beer. Sure. It is. Add more carbonation. It has a lot. I shouldn't say a
Speaker:lot. Last week's
Speaker:beer, the Eagle Park, did not have a lot of that roasty toasty. This one, as I
Speaker:dive in again,
Speaker:it is there. It is like it's like perfect. Like perfect. I don't even know how
Speaker:else to describe
Speaker:it other than like perfectly balanced roastiness to the caramel flavor, like
Speaker:the sweet. It's like
Speaker:this is really good. I think I can help you describe this.
Speaker:Dieses Oktoberfest schmeckt mir köstlich auf der Zunge. Yeah. Mm hmm. What
Speaker:what she said,
Speaker:she said, this Oktoberfest is delicious on my tongue, Jabber. Oh, Zungenjabber.
Speaker:Yeah. I don't
Speaker:know. This is really well done. It doesn't have anything imported German, it
Speaker:says, but
Speaker:it's fucking delicious. It's all you need. Like, it's absolutely classic of the
Speaker:style.
Speaker:And to put it in my rankings. Oh, yes. I'd say it takes the third spot. Oh,
Speaker:time marks. Yes, because I never really talked about this raised grain beer I
Speaker:had.
Speaker:And I'm just going to dive into it a little bit. Sure. So I drank out of a can
Speaker:and I usually pour
Speaker:all my stuff out. You get more of it. Yeah. We're nerds. It breathes a little
Speaker:bit. So I crushed two
Speaker:of these 16 ounces and it was like the breadiness at the end. Like, you know,
Speaker:when you drink like a
Speaker:like a Pilsner lager and you got the breadiness, that crackery, it was like
Speaker:full of that on the
Speaker:end and I couldn't get enough of it. And I just thought it was such a great
Speaker:flavor to bring into
Speaker:the malts, the roasted malts and the caramel. And then you finish off with the
Speaker:breadiness and it
Speaker:just tasted so good together. And that's why it sits at number two of my list.
Speaker:Pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker:Remind everybody that Third Space was so far the worst. You don't get them out
Speaker:there. They're
Speaker:local to us, but it was just a lot. The worst with a U?
Speaker:Well, then it's the versed. The versed, yeah. Oh, you the best too? Yeah? How
Speaker:about the versed too?
Speaker:Well, Verna, I too am drinking in Oktoberfest today. We'll get to that in a
Speaker:little bit,
Speaker:but 'tis the season. 'Tis been the season. Yeah. As we discussed with Erica a
Speaker:couple of weeks ago,
Speaker:as the season, which I'm still waiting for, happens to cool down a little,
Speaker:you're in that perfect combination of like, let's have some Oktoberfest beers,
Speaker:but also
Speaker:some IPA, some pails, some stouts at night. Ah, it's fucking perfect. Perfect
Speaker:beer drinking time.
Speaker:That's where we're at now. See, not in California. Not yet. So it's like during
Speaker:the day today,
Speaker:it was like mid to high 70s. And let me just check the weather right now. It's
Speaker:a balmy 60 degrees.
Speaker:That sounds glorious. It is 843 here. As we record, the current temperature is
Speaker:74 degrees.
Speaker:That's not bad. That's not the worst. It says it feels like 58 right now,
Speaker:though.
Speaker:Oh, speaking of hot places, shout out to our top listing city of last week,
Speaker:the new one for us, Decatur, Georgia. Oh yeah. What up, Decatur? Yeah. What's
Speaker:up, dogs?
Speaker:It's dog country. You sound like a Bron Breaker. Oh, gross.
Speaker:Not a fan. Oh, not a fan. No, Bron. No. Yeah. He's whatever. Yeah. Not a
Speaker:wrestling show,
Speaker:but why don't they just package him as a Steiner? Why'd they have to give him a
Speaker:whole new name?
Speaker:Because Rick Steiner was canceled. He was? Yeah, like two years ago. Oh, for
Speaker:what?
Speaker:I couldn't remember if it was racist or misogynistic. Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:because they showed Rick and Scott at an event recently. Yeah. But yeah, Rick
Speaker:Steiner was
Speaker:canceled. Oh, who knew? Well, not a wrestling show. I was unaware. Oh yeah. So
Speaker:that's why he
Speaker:was not packaged as a Steiner. Got it. Makes a little more sense now. All right
Speaker:. Back to the
Speaker:beer stuff. So I did some traveling for work and was up in San Francisco. Spent
Speaker:a few days up there.
Speaker:We had to go meet with one of our clients and usually I'm up there by myself.
Speaker:My boss was up
Speaker:there too, which, you know, it's fine because, you know, we hang out, not hang
Speaker:out, but we do
Speaker:our work things and we usually go our separate ways. One of the days we were
Speaker:coming back from
Speaker:our work thing, he goes, Hey, you know what? I'd like to offer you the
Speaker:invitation to go out to
Speaker:dinner with, which means, you know, like free dinner, obviously. How awkward is
Speaker:that? How he
Speaker:phrases it? Not quite that, but you know, it's like, Hey, you know, we haven't
Speaker:really gotten
Speaker:to do anything. There's this great seafood place. Good, sir. My share of a
Speaker:concern place with to my
Speaker:who I pay be willing to. Well, the weird part is pressure. Well, that's what he
Speaker:said. It wasn't as
Speaker:awkward as I made it sound, but he did at one point, like no pressure. I know I
Speaker:'m your boss.
Speaker:I'm like, it's still pressure. Like no Bosco fuckers. You know, like what am I
Speaker:supposed to do?
Speaker:So I accepted. And then later on that day, he's like, I'm so tired. I'm just,
Speaker:I can't go out to, I'm so sorry. I have to rescind my invitation. I was like,
Speaker:Oh, shucks. Like thumbs up. Thanks. It's not that he's a bad guy. I just, you
Speaker:know,
Speaker:can I get your card though? Cause you kind of promised me, I mean, you know,
Speaker:business expenses
Speaker:are paid for because it's a business trip, right? You know, I'm not going to go
Speaker:to a fancy place
Speaker:without his card. Like he was going to take me to. Right. So anyways, I mean,
Speaker:and he's not a
Speaker:bad guy to hang out with so much, just, which weird. It's my boss. And you know
Speaker:, I like to go,
Speaker:yeah, maybe have a couple of beers and not be looked at like an alcoholic. So
Speaker:have the night to myself, which is great. And I've talked about Blackhammer on
Speaker:the show before. Yep.
Speaker:Enjoyed them very much. Brought some back, all that good stuff. Great things
Speaker:about them.
Speaker:Yeah. Well, I found about two and a half miles from my hotel or a screwdriver.
Speaker:What is that?
Speaker:Oh, Blackhammer. You got me. No, it was called a Vilkeman, but the beer, it was
Speaker:, it was owned
Speaker:by Blackhammer. So the beer is all Blackhammer beer. Cool. And they have like
Speaker:German food,
Speaker:a bunch of sausages, you know, brats and worse and sauerkraut and all this
Speaker:Germany things.
Speaker:And so I, I walked two and a half miles to Vilkeman. So it's like a German beer
Speaker:hall
Speaker:kind of thing. Yeah. But they have all the, all the beers that Blackhammer has.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:you get an IPA or, you know, whatever you want, you don't just have German
Speaker:beers on town, but
Speaker:there are German beers on town and, uh, had this fucking delicious sausage
Speaker:plate. It was fucking
Speaker:amazing. And, uh, I sat down to eat and had a beer with me and guy walks over,
Speaker:Hey, you playing
Speaker:trivia? I was like, no, man, I'm by myself. I mean, we all know that. Like we
Speaker:go out with Deb and
Speaker:Brian and play trivia all the time, but second place. Yeah, exactly. Second
Speaker:place. We got first
Speaker:place last week and it felt so good. Cause all the teams we hate were there and
Speaker:we beat fucking
Speaker:all of them. Not that we hate people, but I was like, no, I'm, I'm good. I'm
Speaker:just, I'm by myself
Speaker:having a couple of beers and some dinner. He's like, ah, just play. And you
Speaker:know, if you gotta
Speaker:go, you gotta go. I'm not going to hold you here. And I was like, yeah, all
Speaker:right, fine. I'll play.
Speaker:So I played by myself. Uh, my, my team in quotes name was, uh, last man
Speaker:drinking, which apparently
Speaker:he loved. He's like, Oh, that's such a great name. I was like, you are not that
Speaker:funny of a person.
Speaker:He's not. No, he made it very, it made us all very aware that he's a standup
Speaker:comedian on the side.
Speaker:And I was like, ah, okay. His level of humor was not very great. In fact, I got
Speaker:him laughing so
Speaker:hard that he's like, well, clearly I'm in the wrong business. You should be the
Speaker:comedian.
Speaker:I was like, wow, we were in San Francisco. The A's game is on the A's are still
Speaker:in Oakland for
Speaker:the rest of the season. And they're showing the game, not fucking anybody in
Speaker:that crowd. I mean,
Speaker:legit must've been like 300 people in the entire stadium. It was so empty. Did
Speaker:you hear recently
Speaker:about that Chicago White Sox double header where they had 98 total fans? Really
Speaker:? Yeah. That's what
Speaker:this looked like. I mean, there's nobody even behind home plate. And so he said
Speaker:something,
Speaker:Oh, the manager, the A's manager came out with Yano and the umpires. And he
Speaker:said something about
Speaker:like, Oh man, I guess he looks angry. And I was like, yeah, they just told him
Speaker:what the attendance
Speaker:count was. And he lost his shit laughing. He's like, that's, that's the one. He
Speaker:'s like, that's
Speaker:the best joke of the night. You should be the comedian. I was like, clearly if
Speaker:that's the best
Speaker:joke of the night, yeah. Maybe take up trivia as a full-time job. Overall. Nice
Speaker:guy. I had a good
Speaker:time at trivia. I did not get last middle of the road, which was fine for being
Speaker:by myself. I'll
Speaker:take it. Uh, once again, beer was delicious. And of course the, uh, the sausage
Speaker:plate was
Speaker:chef's kiss. So good sausage, dude. It had, first of all, yeah, you do a couple
Speaker:of different types
Speaker:of sausage, a little mustard, had some cheese. It was like a protein plate kind
Speaker:of thing. Like
Speaker:had some cheese slices, had some pickled veggies. Uh, it was fucking good. So
Speaker:good. Hell yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:So, uh, what else? Oh, we went out. Oh man. We went out with Deb and Brian over
Speaker:the weekend,
Speaker:the wife and I. Okay. We, we, you know, we'd met up for trivia. Like, Hey, we
Speaker:should hang out
Speaker:Saturday and maybe go like Dave and busters. Do you guys have Dave and busters
Speaker:out there? Oh yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. It was like Chuck E. Cheese for adults. And, uh, so you know, we don't,
Speaker:that's not something
Speaker:we normally do. We went to Dave and busters and, uh, got absolutely shit. They
Speaker:usually have good
Speaker:drink specials. Well, they have horrible beer options. Um, but they did, as we
Speaker:walked in,
Speaker:we, we of course hit the bar first and they had this sign that they were doing
Speaker:like Jell-O shots
Speaker:two for one. So our old asses did Jell-O and they weren't just shots. They were
Speaker:like the syringe
Speaker:shooters, you know? Okay. So we did around a Jell-O shots, had some beers. The
Speaker:girls had some
Speaker:mixed drinks, played some games, had some more drinks, played some games, had
Speaker:some more drinks,
Speaker:got a little tired of doing all that. So we walked across the parking lot to E
Speaker:ureka brewing,
Speaker:each had a cup, more beers. And then they close it like 10. It was like, well,
Speaker:what do we do now?
Speaker:Mike, let's go back to Dave and busters. Cause they close it like two. Come on.
Speaker:Went back to
Speaker:Dave and busters, had a few more drinks. Brian ran into a former boss while we
Speaker:were there. Uber
Speaker:haul, like Uber was hard to get that night. It was like, you know, 1230 and
Speaker:there were no Ubers
Speaker:out in our area. That's cause nobody was at the A's game. That was up North.
Speaker:There's no A's game
Speaker:down here. This is back down here. Uh, and so we ended up having to do the
Speaker:thing where like we
Speaker:added a stop to ours just so Brian and Deb could get home. Cause like their
Speaker:Uber kept going the
Speaker:wrong way. I was like, just cancel your shit. We'll we'll add a stop and did
Speaker:all that. I didn't
Speaker:even know you could do that. Oh yeah. Once, once like they accept the ride, you
Speaker:can edit it and
Speaker:then add a stop that we, we do that sometimes. But, um, but yeah, so it was, it
Speaker:was good times.
Speaker:We got fucking chittered. Like it was one of those, you know, we didn't like
Speaker:pound drinks
Speaker:and the jello shots, but man, we just kept going. It sounds like I'd be dead.
Speaker:Yeah. We just kept
Speaker:going. It was like all night, you know, we had some snacks at one point, but it
Speaker:was good times.
Speaker:You got, got drunk and played some video games. Well, that's a, I mean, so it's
Speaker:football season's
Speaker:coming up, right? Not a football show, not a football show. Uh, had my big
Speaker:fantasy football
Speaker:draft though. And, uh, it takes place at a local bar. Okay. Cause we have a lot
Speaker:of those here.
Speaker:Yeah. Um, I drank a lot, like more than I drink in, I don't know, I would say
Speaker:the last easily
Speaker:before COVID. So let's say like five years, I woke up and I, I got home and I
Speaker:was expecting
Speaker:to feel like shit. I knew going to bed, I was expecting to wake up feeling like
Speaker:a bag of dicks
Speaker:and I had to work the next day and just totally like, I knew what I was getting
Speaker:myself into.
Speaker:I don't know what happened, what my body did. I woke up like a fucking champ.
Speaker:That's the best, not one ounce of headache, no stomach issues. I was a little
Speaker:bit tired
Speaker:and I thought if I maybe just had one hour extra sleep, I would have felt like
Speaker:100%. God,
Speaker:that's the best. But it was like for, it was like six beers, six shots. Wow.
Speaker:That's a lot of hooch
Speaker:for me. Yes. Six shots. Six, six shots. That's the thing. Like six beers. No
Speaker:big deal. Yeah.
Speaker:But if you start adding that liquor into my diet, I'm horrible with liquor.
Speaker:Same. That is when I get completely fucked up. Puking is the only option.
Speaker:Resistance is futile. Right. And I don't even know what happened. It was like
Speaker:my body would
Speaker:just like kicked into like, we're going to go ultra metabolism and break
Speaker:everything down and
Speaker:you're going to have an awesome day. And I did, it was fucking great. Did you
Speaker:want to buy your
Speaker:liver like a gift on those days? No, it just made me want to do it again. That
Speaker:too. Like, oh,
Speaker:clearly I'm not in practice. Right. Like, oh, I guess I can do this now. Yeah.
Speaker:I wasn't like the
Speaker:worst after Dave and Buster's like the next day, but it wasn't the best either.
Speaker:Like Deb was
Speaker:fucking dead. She was like, I'm dying over here. I was like, I'm not dying. I'm
Speaker:not thriving
Speaker:either. I'm just, I got a decent headache. Needed some greasy food. Yeah. I had
Speaker:a Dr. Pepper,
Speaker:that kind of thing. Nothing too crazy. That was the day of my fantasy draft and
Speaker:I napped through
Speaker:it. So I auto drafted you. Yeah. Hey, I got your boy, Aaron Rogers on my team.
Speaker:That's not my boy.
Speaker:Used to be. I don't know. You're talking about your former boy. Oh, see what he
Speaker:can blow out
Speaker:this year. Everybody keeps saying, if he stays healthy, the jets are supposed
Speaker:to be decent.
Speaker:I'm not for it. I'm thinking neither of those things will happen. They were USA
Speaker:today's pick
Speaker:for the Superbowl this year. Not a sport show, not a football show, but just a
Speaker:little fun tidbit
Speaker:information. USA today. Apparently not a sports paper either. Not a sports
Speaker:paper.
Speaker:It's pretty, pretty convinced. They have no idea what's going on. Yeah, I'd say
Speaker:so.
Speaker:Well, speaking of my, uh, my romping around in San Francisco, we have a rombing
Speaker:ass son of a
Speaker:bitch, right? We do have a voicemail from psycho bear who lives up in NorCal.
Speaker:So let's, let's check
Speaker:in with him. No one is available to take your call. Please leave a message aft
Speaker:er the tone.
Speaker:Hello, craft beer Republic. This is psycho bear. I want to hear my message.
Speaker:So now I find out not only is Greg for my next life at himself. Oh yeah. I
Speaker:guess Erica.
Speaker:I hear him. I'm hearing her on the latest episode. She just went to mindscape
Speaker:fermentation
Speaker:and that apparently is an hour North of me. My goodness. And to top it all off
Speaker:flex. Well,
Speaker:my niece and nephew go to Wisconsin, whatever the university, man, I was
Speaker:destined to listen
Speaker:to your show. Anyways, uh, just an update. I made a little trip to Seattle and,
Speaker:uh, one of your
Speaker:favorite fans deep Fontana gym was there. Yes. Me and Fontana gym were in
Speaker:Seattle drinking it up
Speaker:nice for a few days. Great time. You guys should get up there. I don't know if
Speaker:you're sour fans,
Speaker:but we tapped upon this one fantastic furry Mirage. They usually have two to
Speaker:three people.
Speaker:Well, actually I was there with about 25 other people from around the country.
Speaker:It was pretty
Speaker:stellar. Yeah. Good times. And, uh, Oh, I was actually down in Agoura two weeks
Speaker:before that
Speaker:for a little birthday celebration, made it to Rancho la Hill place, Greg. And
Speaker:it was good.
Speaker:Nothing ever great out there. I got to try this pedal in tight, but one day I
Speaker:will. Oh,
Speaker:when you're heading back up to the bay, Greg, uh, I don't know how to reach you
Speaker:other than
Speaker:this wonderful podcast platform. Anyways. Uh, yeah, that's it for me. Tycho
Speaker:bear signing out.
Speaker:Goodbye. So abrupt. I don't know when I'm, I know I will be going back up,
Speaker:but I don't know when I'll be going back up to the bay. They spring this shit
Speaker:on me at work. Like,
Speaker:Hey, can you go up there in two days? Like, Oh, I guess. Are you trying to
Speaker:cause a divorce?
Speaker:Sure. She's probably happy to get rid of you for a couple of days. She claims
Speaker:she's not,
Speaker:but somewhere deep down inside, she's gotta be. I love having the bed to myself
Speaker:.
Speaker:I don't really. Yeah. I don't know if we've had this conversation, my wife,
Speaker:then you know how
Speaker:everybody's like, you talk up a big game about like, Oh man, I can't wait to
Speaker:have the bed to
Speaker:myself. And I lay in the middle of the bed and I like sprawl out. Yes. And then
Speaker:after about two
Speaker:minutes, I'm just like, wow, this isn't all it's cracked up to be. Oh, and I
Speaker:get to my regular
Speaker:side and I get my regular sleeping position. Like not me, man. All right. I
Speaker:guess, uh,
Speaker:I guess this is just how we sleep from now on. I'm doing bed angels in the
Speaker:middle, just sprawled out.
Speaker:Oh, it's glorious. So I like waking up like that to just be able to get that
Speaker:good
Speaker:morning stretch in, like you wake up and each foot hits a corner of the bed,
Speaker:the hands get
Speaker:corner of the bed, you're X'd out. And that's nice. But yeah, sleeping, I just
Speaker:can't just look
Speaker:like a chalk line murder. I always end up like back in my spot, curled up in
Speaker:the corner, like
Speaker:usual by the end of the night. But when I start, like I go to sleep in the
Speaker:middle of the bed,
Speaker:just sprawled out, nice and quiet. It's great, man. Isn't that bizarre? It is
Speaker:weird. But then
Speaker:I, yeah, like I said, I wake up like in the corner as if I'm being kicked or
Speaker:something,
Speaker:but Hey, never. Uh, what was psycho bear say? Oh, do we like sours? Fuck. Yeah.
Speaker:like sours. Who doesn't like sours? Yeah. Sours are, they're super solid. Do I
Speaker:buy a lot of them?
Speaker:No, it doesn't fit the algorithm. Sure. Yeah. Usually pretty pricey, pretty
Speaker:pricey, low ABV.
Speaker:Yeah. If I go out to a brewery, I will try theirs, you know? Right. That's,
Speaker:that's why I do my most
Speaker:sour consumption is at the brewery. So, uh, I haven't been to Seattle in a
Speaker:minute, but, um,
Speaker:Seattle's always got a super, you know, like a real solid beer scene up there.
Speaker:So I've heard
Speaker:Seattle's really good. I've heard Portland's really good too. Um, but I've
Speaker:never heard of
Speaker:this Mirage. I have not heard of Mirage been to Portland, been in Seattle,
Speaker:great beer, but yeah,
Speaker:it's been, it's been a minute. Mirage must be a little on the newer side. I
Speaker:hope they've been
Speaker:around for like 30 years now. I know they probably have. I'm just being a dick.
Speaker:I wonder if I can
Speaker:Google this real quick. Mirage brewing Seattle. There they are. They have 40,
Speaker:almost 4,500
Speaker:followers on the grams. They're probably been around too long. Oh yeah. Maybe
Speaker:they're new,
Speaker:new adjacent. I mean, I haven't been up there in like eight years probably at
Speaker:least. So,
Speaker:uh, any people don't forget. Yeah. 805-538-beer. That's the number to call if
Speaker:you guys want to
Speaker:leave a voicemail. Yeah. Get on a voicemail. Yeah. Get on, get up on it. You
Speaker:don't even have
Speaker:to be drunk. It's true. We prefer if you were, but you don't have to be. Leave
Speaker:us a voicemail.
Speaker:Uh, all right. Ludicrous libation law. This one comes to us from everyone's
Speaker:favorite place,
Speaker:West Virginia. Okay. I was going to say New Jersey, so. Oh no. West Virginia
Speaker:were,
Speaker:what was it last time? They probably don't even have fax machines to listen to
Speaker:the podcast on.
Speaker:I think they do have more breweries than North Dakota though. I think we
Speaker:figured out.
Speaker:Yeah. Something like that. North Dakota was like 20. Yeah. Like 19 or something
Speaker:like that. Yeah.
Speaker:It's a weird small number. Yeah. Well, it was like 28. Yeah. It wasn't a whole
Speaker:lot more
Speaker:in West Virginia. Bars are technically illegal if they also don't serve food.
Speaker:Food for them is just people though.
Speaker:I was going to say street possum, but, uh, you know, cut them deep. Um, no, I
Speaker:saw a,
Speaker:there's squirrel eaters out there. Oh, this is a real thing. Yeah. I watched
Speaker:back in the day.
Speaker:And by back in the day, I mean like 10 years ago, bizarre foods with Andrew
Speaker:Zimmer and used to be a
Speaker:big show on the food network. Yeah. And West Virginia is such a bizarre place.
Speaker:Like he
Speaker:usually goes to countries like Spain and wherever and Japan and exotic places.
Speaker:He did a fucking
Speaker:episode in West Virginia because it is that bizarre. And, uh, yeah. One of the
Speaker:places he
Speaker:went to eat, they had like squirrels strung up by their tails, like on a
Speaker:clothesline and, uh,
Speaker:clothesline from hell. Yeah. So, uh, JBL, uh, yeah. They just eat a lot of
Speaker:squirrels.
Speaker:I don't think that would be very good. A bit nutty. Yeah. No, thanks. Yeah. By
Speaker:the way,
Speaker:Mirage beer up in Seattle, their first post on the gram was November of 2017.
Speaker:So, you know, newish.
Speaker:I feel like that was a great, great time for breweries. Oh, that was prime time
Speaker:. 2016, 2017,
Speaker:popping up around that time. You're probably doing pretty well. Yeah. That was
Speaker:like peak
Speaker:craft. I'd say, man, just the crew, the cream of the crops, the cream rising to
Speaker:the top. Yeah,
Speaker:there it is. All right. Before we move on. Uh, yeah. Before we move on West
Speaker:Virginia,
Speaker:they're fucked. Enjoy those fucking squirrels. Yeah. And your bars. I feel like
Speaker:they have to
Speaker:have like a roadkill restaurant too. We're like, there's no way they don't. The
Speaker:restaurant just
Speaker:salvages roadkill and that's what's on the menu for the night. Closing early
Speaker:today. No traffic.
Speaker:So gross. So, uh, all right. If you don't mind. I don't mind. I'm going to make
Speaker:a call the pen.
Speaker:He calls to the bullpen for still laughing about roadkill. Well, that's, it's a
Speaker:real thing. I
Speaker:guarantee it. I absolutely believe it is. And you don't even need like a catchy
Speaker:name. It would just
Speaker:be like the roadkill diner. Yeah. The roadkill cafe or something like that.
Speaker:That's good. I like
Speaker:the alliteration. Yeah. Uh, I'm drinking nothing to do with roadkill cafe with
Speaker:a K
Speaker:but just to sound, please drink your beer, but just to sound fancier to look
Speaker:fancy to have the
Speaker:little like lying over the little teal day. Uh, I'm drinking along with flex
Speaker:and Oktoberfest.
Speaker:This one is from Enneagrin brewing their Oktoberfest beer that they just
Speaker:released a
Speaker:couple of weeks ago. Five and a half percent, 23 IBUs has a three, eight, two
Speaker:on untapped
Speaker:because people don't appreciate good German beer. Really don't. They say on the
Speaker:can here,
Speaker:Enneagrin Oktoberfest is a traditional Bavarian Maritzen style lager brewed
Speaker:with imported German
Speaker:Munich, Vienna, and Pilsner malts. These malts give our Oktoberfest a beautiful
Speaker:copper color
Speaker:and a full bodied malty sweet flavor with hints of honey, nuts, and caramel. Pr
Speaker:ost.
Speaker:As you can see, I think it matches that description visually perfectly. Very,
Speaker:very gray color. Very caramelly. Very clear. Here's the sniffer. Very roasty on
Speaker:the nose.
Speaker:Ooh, okay. A lot of roasty toastiness. Do you like your Oktoberfest
Speaker:roasty? I don't dislike them roasting. Okay. It's an appropriate amount of ro
Speaker:asty.
Speaker:Right. Like chestnuts on an open fire. Right. Not burnt nuts on my ding-a-ling.
Speaker:Sorry. Tongue jabber time. Zungenjabber. Zungenjabber. I nailed it. You really
Speaker:did.
Speaker:This is so good. Fuck you 382. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. People are crazy.
Speaker:I'd say the Schnaz has more roasty toasty than the actual beer does. The beer
Speaker:has just the right
Speaker:amount. Okay. Fair amount. Very clean. Yeah. Very clean. Finishes very dry,
Speaker:which makes you coming
Speaker:back for more. I don't find it, and I actually enjoy this. I don't find it to
Speaker:be overly sweet.
Speaker:Sometimes the Marathons get a little on the sweet side. This one is not, and I
Speaker:appreciate that.
Speaker:I am not a huge Dunkel person because they're too sweet for me.
Speaker:So I don't like a lot of Dunkels. I will like maybe two Dunkels, but I like
Speaker:when they are buttery.
Speaker:Yeah. The Dunkels I like are not true to style because they're just a little
Speaker:too sweet for me.
Speaker:Yeah. Not a big fan of that. I'm not going to lie here. Dunkels and Doppelbachs
Speaker:Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Speaker:Just those are probably two styles that are not for me.
Speaker:I'm with you, especially the Dunkels. Doppels, eh, they're hit and miss, but
Speaker:Dunkels 95% of
Speaker:the time I don't like them. They're just not for me. They're too sweet. I know
Speaker:that's the style,
Speaker:and I know it might be the perfectly created Doppel, or excuse me, Dunkel, not
Speaker:my jam.
Speaker:So like a black IPA over a Dunkel?
Speaker:Oh, yes. I love black IPAs.
Speaker:Red IPA?
Speaker:Over a Dunkel?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:Honestly, most styles over a Dunkel. I just don't like the sweetness.
Speaker:Well, I'm just trying to think red IPAs are very, very malty, sometimes overly
Speaker:malty.
Speaker:They can be, yeah. But in general, I would take the red IPA over a Dunkel. It's
Speaker:just
Speaker:too sweet for me. Too honey and caramel tasting. This is so clean finish. It's
Speaker:so dry.
Speaker:Leaves the tongue wanting more, which is, I mean, if you're making beer, that's
Speaker:perfect thing. People needing to drink more and more.
Speaker:Drinking and drinking and drinking.
Speaker:As I'm doing. So, I mean, it's fucking anagram. We know they're going to knock
Speaker:it out of the
Speaker:park. It's a lager.
Speaker:It's a lager. Is it a lager?
Speaker:Yeah, it's a Märzen style lager.
Speaker:It's very good on the Zungenjaber.
Speaker:Zungenjaber. Every time I pull this up, it reloads.
Speaker:Zungenjaber.
Speaker:I just need to pull that out as a drop.
Speaker:Drop it.
Speaker:Drop it like it's hot.
Speaker:All right, let's get some news in here before we get up out of here.
Speaker:Cambridge Brewing Company to close in December after 35 years.
Speaker:That's sad.
Speaker:Yeah. This is an interesting story. So after 35 years, Massachusetts based brew
Speaker:pub,
Speaker:Cambridge Brewing Company has announced it will shut its doors at the end of
Speaker:2024.
Speaker:The brewery wrote on social media over the weekend, "To our dear CBC friends
Speaker:and family,
Speaker:our time is coming to a close. Our last day of service will be December 20th,
Speaker:but what a time it has been."
Speaker:Unlike common culprits behind craft brewery closures as of late, punishingly
Speaker:high rent
Speaker:costs, a distracted drinker base, a slowing industry, CBC is going out on its
Speaker:own terms.
Speaker:Founder and owner Phil Uff-Banateen told the Boston Globe, he goes on to say,
Speaker:"I want to retire. There comes a time in everyone's life when what becomes
Speaker:apparent,
Speaker:and I think a time for me is now."
Speaker:So he's just retiring. They're not getting shut down or...
Speaker:Even with saying that things have slowed down and...
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:So he says.
Speaker:There's got to be something underlying.
Speaker:Just old. You know how that is.
Speaker:I feel ya.
Speaker:I'm ready to retire. Financially, I'm not, but my body sure is.
Speaker:Physically?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Stick a fork in me.
Speaker:I'm done.
Speaker:Well, West Virginians, please don't, because...
Speaker:They might literally.
Speaker:Yeah. Being figurative here.
Speaker:Don't get any ideas.
Speaker:Not roadkill yet.
Speaker:Right. Give it time. We talked about this, I mean, probably close to a year ago
Speaker:.
Speaker:Fireball, you know, the disgusting cinnamon whiskey.
Speaker:Terrible.
Speaker:They're little like mini bottle shot things.
Speaker:So funny thing here. So when we did, we picked the order for my fantasy
Speaker:football draft.
Speaker:It's like a tradition to get like shots before the start.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:So the guy went out on his break at work and bought like a 10 pack of fireball
Speaker:shots.
Speaker:Not whiskey.
Speaker:Not whiskey. So I had to enlighten everybody by saying this is just a malt
Speaker:beverage
Speaker:and it is not actual whiskey. So funny thing is when you look...
Speaker:You're going to tell him about the Beechwood aging process?
Speaker:No, I didn't want to bore him to sleep.
Speaker:But if you look at the little bottle now, they spell it whiskey, W-H-I-S-K-Y.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:So it looks like whiskey, but it's whiskey.
Speaker:Right. That's like we were at dinner one night with Deb and Brian
Speaker:and this was not a fancy establishment. The drink on the menu was old fashioned
Speaker:.
Speaker:Well, that's weird.
Speaker:Yeah. I was like, does that make it like a knockoff old fashioned or why is it
Speaker:different here?
Speaker:Maybe they think that's what it is.
Speaker:Maybe. It's like, is this a typo? Anyways, so back to fireball.
Speaker:It went to court. There's a whole class action thing because the little bottles
Speaker:are fermented malt beverages. They're not whiskey.
Speaker:And fireball maker Sazerac attempts to block the class action certification.
Speaker:Sazerac isn't taking the heat for causing confusion between its whiskey-based
Speaker:fireball cinnamon and its malt-based product of the same name.
Speaker:After Sazerac was hit with a class action lawsuit last year for allegedly
Speaker:creating
Speaker:consumer confusion between the two products, the company urged a California
Speaker:federal judge
Speaker:last week not to grant class certification to buyers who claimed the single
Speaker:serving fireball
Speaker:malt beverages misled consumers into thinking they were buying fireball's
Speaker:cinnamon whiskey product.
Speaker:The spirits giant is arguing that the putative class's experts' proposed
Speaker:surveys don't show
Speaker:wide ranging deception, saying that neither of the two surveys are admissible
Speaker:because the methods do
Speaker:not properly target fireball buyers and ignore important factors like
Speaker:convenience and supply.
Speaker:I don't know why that matters, because if I want fireball, which I don't, I
Speaker:want actual fireball.
Speaker:The product in question, fireball cinnamon, is a flavored malt beverage that
Speaker:contains
Speaker:natural whiskey and other flavors and caramel color. According to its label,
Speaker:the beverage is
Speaker:16.5% ABV, half the strength of the spirits-based fireball at 33%.
Speaker:It's all terrible.
Speaker:Yeah, either way, I don't want to drink it.
Speaker:It really is.
Speaker:So this is interesting. I just googled, is it whiskey or whiskey? You know, EY
Speaker:or no EY.
Speaker:The tricky part is matching the right spelling with the right country of origin
Speaker:. If you're
Speaker:talking about a drink that's been made in Scotland, Canada, or Japan, they use
Speaker:the spelling
Speaker:without the E. When referring to drinks distilled in the United States or
Speaker:Ireland, they use the E.
Speaker:Whiskey.
Speaker:I'm going to have to go to the liquor store tomorrow.
Speaker:Yeah. So without the E is not technically wrong. It's just weird to see in
Speaker:America.
Speaker:So it's not produced or made in America or Ireland then?
Speaker:Well, the other thing is if it says whiskey though, I mean, then it's a real...
Speaker:Yeah. It says it right on the bottle.
Speaker:Yeah. Then they're really deceiving the public.
Speaker:Right. Then you think you are getting whiskey.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Yeah. That's messed up.
Speaker:Either way, they're deceiving the public into thinking they're drinking
Speaker:something
Speaker:that tastes halfway decent. They're not. It's so gross. I can't. I've never
Speaker:liked Fireball.
Speaker:I did that shot at the picking of the draft order and it was the worst.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I can't believe you woke up okay after fucking Fireball.
Speaker:Oh yeah. I woke up fine. I mean, it was just one.
Speaker:Oh, that's good. What was the rest of the liquor you had then?
Speaker:Oh, at the draft draft? Oh, so that was at the draft order.
Speaker:That was a different day.
Speaker:I see.
Speaker:We just drank shots of Jack all night.
Speaker:Ooh. I mean, much better than Fireball.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:I could do Jack and diet.
Speaker:To wake up fine after six shots of Jack.
Speaker:Pretty impressive.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We'll end on this one. Take a trip down to Florida, shall we?
Speaker:It's been a while.
Speaker:It has been a while. Get your gator and your grenade. We're going to Florida.
Speaker:And oh, Alachua man. Alachua is apparently a place in Florida.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:Alachua man arrested for driving his tractor on Main Street while drunk.
Speaker:I feel like we've heard stories like this before.
Speaker:That's very Florida.
Speaker:Rance Edward Shannon, 60.
Speaker:What was his first name?
Speaker:Rance.
Speaker:That's what I thought you said.
Speaker:Yeah. Like France without the F.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Of Alachua was arrested and charged with driving under the influence
Speaker:and driving without a valid license after allegedly
Speaker:weaving across lanes in a tractor on High Springs Main Street.
Speaker:That's that's the slowest weaving I can imagine.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Is that really a weave?
Speaker:Like Austin, Austin Power is trying to do that U-turn and.
Speaker:Right. Or the whole steamroller thing, you know, get out of the way.
Speaker:Five minutes later at about 441 p.m. on August 19th,
Speaker:a High Springs Police Department officer saw a green John Deere tractor
Speaker:traveling north on High Springs Main Street.
Speaker:He reported the tractor traveled across a double yellow line twice
Speaker:and entered the opposite lane of travel to pass a line of cars.
Speaker:How's the tractor passing cars?
Speaker:That's impressive.
Speaker:It must be stopped.
Speaker:Got a turbo.
Speaker:Turbo tractor does eight miles per hour.
Speaker:The officer conducted a traffic stop and the driver reportedly gave him
Speaker:a Florida identification card instead of a driver's license.
Speaker:The officer noted that there were two beers on the floorboard of the tractor
Speaker:and he noticed a strong odor of urine and alcohol while speaking to Shannon.
Speaker:Shannon's speech was reportedly slurred,
Speaker:and the officer reported that he had difficulty standing up when he got out of
Speaker:the tractor.
Speaker:Shannon was reportedly unable to perform field sobriety exercises due to his
Speaker:level of influence.
Speaker:They did a, they ran a report on him.
Speaker:Shannon has 16 felony convictions, five of which are violent,
Speaker:including two felony DUI convictions and 36 misdemeanor convictions, non-
Speaker:violent,
Speaker:including three misdemeanor DUI convictions.
Speaker:He has served seven state prison sentences with his most recent release in
Speaker:September of 23.
Speaker:The judge set bail at $4,000 with the requirement for a transdermal alcohol
Speaker:detection device.
Speaker:He said, I've been out of this place for a year.
Speaker:I'm itching to get me a tractor.
Speaker:What do you think?
Speaker:A year ago, he's just about to get out like, "Hey, Rance," with a weird name.
Speaker:What are you going to do as soon as you get out of the joint?
Speaker:Like, "I'm going to get me a tractor."
Speaker:Well, I wish they would have reported how he got down from the tractor
Speaker:because those things are fucking tall.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Big, they're tall, they're high up.
Speaker:You have to climb up in it just to get there.
Speaker:Unless it's one of those knockoff yard tractors, you know what I'm talking
Speaker:about?
Speaker:Is it John Deere, though?
Speaker:Yeah, it's true.
Speaker:Big fucking tractor.
Speaker:Yeah, I hope it was because that would be hilarious to see,
Speaker:just rolling down Main Street in my tractor.
Speaker:Passing cars.
Speaker:I don't think they can go faster than 30 miles an hour.
Speaker:I wonder what the top...
Speaker:Let's see if Google will tell us what the top speed of a tractor is.
Speaker:Because I live in a parkway, and we get stuck behind some tractors every now
Speaker:and then.
Speaker:And I think maybe they max out at 15 miles an hour.
Speaker:Google says most modern tractors go roughly 25 miles per hour at top speed.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:At best, he's zipping through a school zone.
Speaker:If he's passing cars, they are probably slowing down to get out of the way
Speaker:because they see his zigzagging.
Speaker:Or slowing down to watch the fucking idiot in a tractor.
Speaker:That too.
Speaker:Oh, here comes Rance again, his fucking tractor.
Speaker:How many times is this now?
Speaker:16, 17?
Speaker:Rance, go back to West Virginia already.
Speaker:Oh, I tell you, that kid will never learn.
Speaker:Oh, fucking Rance.
Speaker:What a guy.
Speaker:Classic.
Speaker:Classic Florida.
Speaker:Hey, speaking of Florida, hi, Vanessa.
Speaker:Hello, Vanessa.
Speaker:Oh, slightly creepy today.
Speaker:Gotta keep you on your toes.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Which I'm not into toes.
Speaker:Oh, hard pass.
Speaker:Hard pass on the feet.
Speaker:Definitely not a fan.
Speaker:No, not a fan of feet.
Speaker:Certainly not paying to see feet pictures.
Speaker:Don't hate, but I don't love.
Speaker:Look, if you want to like feet, that's fine.
Speaker:But it's not a feet hater show.
Speaker:Also, not a feet lover show.
Speaker:Let's make that clear.
Speaker:Very clear.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So let's end things before we dig any deeper holes.
Speaker:Are we digging with our feet?
Speaker:Oh, God, no.
Speaker:Hands, hands only.
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Speaker:805-538-beer, craftbeerrepublic.com.
Speaker:Mail at craftbeerrepublic.com.
Speaker:I think that's everything.
Speaker:I hope everyone is staying very well hydrated out there.
Speaker:And on that note.
Speaker:Good night, everybody!