David:

[0:00] Well, today it's my pleasure to have with me George Cordoba. He is a cancer survivor, and he has had stage four melanoma with mastastis in the brain. And after fighting for about 10 years and 10 surgeries, he took a leap of faith and went to the natural holistic route to heal. And now he is on his 12th year of being cancer free. Because of that, he now serves others to bring hope that with God, you can move mountains that are right now seem immovable because God can do anything. George, welcome to Redeeming Business today.

George:

[0:31] Thank you. Thank you, David, for inviting me or for having me as a guest. It's always an honor to share with people that there's hope that they can heal.

David:

[0:41] Nice to have you on here. So, George, what is one way you believe that we can honor God in our business that others may not know about?

George:

[0:50] Well, that's a great question. One way is by example.

David:

[0:54] Doing things natural seems kind of cool. and it's like, oh, we can solve things this way and that way.

David:

[1:00] But it's like when life and death is on the line. So if I mess it up, I could die. How did you find the courage, I guess, to just reject all that, take a leap of faith and say, I'm just going to try something different? How did you do that or your thought process behind that?

George:

[1:16] It is not easy. So just so you know, in eight years, I shifted from being a CTO to health and wellness eight years ago, almost eight years ago. So in those eight years, only three of my clients have decided to go 100%, you know, natural. In other words, stop conventional treatments and go natural like I did. I did it at a year, almost year eight. So I was one of the, let's say the, you know, the one that had the faith that, you know, the chemo and all this stuff was going to, you know, heal me. But the fact is, and that's a great question. Faith was, I'm a person of faith and I did a lot of praying for discernment and stuff. But also, we have this powerful mind, and it has 12 rules. But one of the rules, which is what affects most of us in terms of running right away to an oncologist, is the mind goes to what is familiar. And for us in the Western societies, what is familiar is to run, get maybe somebody to recommend an oncologist, and you just go there. In your mind, there's no other option.

George:

[2:35] And so psychologically, you go and you say, well, you know, I hope that this guy or this lady would help me heal with what they're going to throw at me. All this chemotherapy and radiotherapy and immunotherapy and so forth. And so that's really our belief. So what I tell my clients when they sign up, for example, this new client, we discuss this. She asked me the same question you just asked me. How did you manage to do that? I just, I don't know. And I said, well, let's start working on this. You go parallel to your treatments and you yourself, you're going to start realizing that after two years, what you've been doing. Now, doing this, even though it's going to be in conjunction, you're not going to stop. I don't push anybody to do my, you know, the same thing I did. But what happens typically is that on month two, my protocol is three months, 90 days.

George:

[3:42] They really start, you know, wondering and saying, wow, you know, I, my doctor is saying that this is, I'm improving so much. And I know why. I know why, and the doctors only know one thing, is to give you what the pharmas told you to do in school, because they even design the curriculum for med school. So I'm not saying that I'm against that.

George:

[4:14] It works for some people. But I do have a questionnaire that I was in this Survivors Summit, and this guy just gave me this questionnaire to ask your ecologist when you first go there. And it is amazing. People are scared to ask the doctor, which, by the way, it's your employee. You decided to hire him to help you heal. But there are some questions that you should ask the doctor, not just like, oh, how much time I have? Do I have a chance? No, more direct questions.

David:

[4:49] So what are some good questions that we could ask to see if they could really help us?

George:

[4:55] Well, by the way, 50% of folks to go, nearly 50% of folks to go one, two, three, four years of chemotherapy don't make it. About 50%, 48% make it, but almost 100% of them have recurrences, and that's for a reason. But anyway, one of the questions is, doctor, is the medicine that you're going to give me? Can I talk to somebody that after using this medicine, it's alive five years later? Okay, that's one. Doctor, is it true that you have several options for your patients in chemo and that each of those have wholesale price and then you mark it up for the insurance companies or the client? That's a tough one, but that's a reality. You know, so asking that stuff, is there somebody with this one that I can contact that have been cancer-free for 10 years? And those are three of 10 questions. But that gives you an idea of stuff that you should ask your doctor, your oncologist. You know, even if me, myself, I was, you know, already, you know, in the leadership position.

George:

[6:22] But what happens is not only do we go to a doctor that is familiar to us in our mind. The other thing is that we give all our power to the doctor. And that is a great mistake. Right. Because now, all of a sudden, you depend on doctor's news. Oh, this happened, this happened. Oh, I cannot help you anymore. Go home and die. Or do something else. After four or five years of trying stuff, surgeries and stuff, they tell you, you know, we have no other answers. So I'm sorry. Go do something else. Go try something else. Yeah, four years later, now I'm broke. Nothing else is covered by insurance. And so you find yourself in a tough position. Yeah.

David:

[7:12] Those are good questions to ask because essentially you're saying, what are your track results? Did the things that you are recommending, is that working or not working? And so, yeah, that's those good questions.

David:

[7:24] You know, Benjamin Franklin said an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. And I know you talk about preventing a little bit. What are some things that we can do to help prevent disease or prevent cancer in our everyday life?

George:

[7:38] Yeah, that's a great question. And I know we have a short time, but yeah, the first thing that we need to understand that is that disease manifests in the body, but it doesn't start there. Obviously, it does in a way because everything starts in our gut, you know? So there are some typical things to prevent diseases. One of them, obviously, is having a healthy lifestyle. With that, I mean, to make it really, in a nutshell, our human cycle is 24 hours. The moon is 28 days. The sun is 365 plus, depending on the year. That's the cycle for them. But for us humans, it's 24 hours. In those 24 hours, within those 24 hours, we have time that we need to detox and restore, which is when we sleep.

George:

[8:34] So look how everything starts, and we're talking now all prevention, which is really what I'm an advocate now. When you hear that one or two men are going to have cancer in their lifetime and one or three women, that's scary. That is a pandemic. Forget COVID. This is really affecting a lot of people. So part of this answer is all disease, all disease, David, start in an inflamed body. And we do that to ourselves. We have too much acid, acidic. Everything is acidic. All our tissue become acidic. And that's with no exception why you get diabetes, you get heart disease, you get cancer, you get autoimmune situations, you get liver disease, colon disease. All chronic disease come starting at the inflamed body. So one of the ways from the physical body to prevent that is to make sure that we learn how to eat. Because as a nutritionist, I can tell you that 25% of digestion and nutrition is what you eat, but 75% is who you are when you're eating. Are you the average American person that chews six times and swallows?

George:

[9:57] So you send the stomach unprocessed foods, and you do that two or three times a day. Most likely, the average American chews only six times. So it's learning how to eat, to slow down and eat, enjoy your meal. So you chew enough, because digestion starts in your mouth. You chew enough times, not six times, depending on the food that you're eating. You might have to chew 30 times, which is great, because you can really enjoy it. But because you're in a hurry, because you've got to do errands before you go back to work or whatever it is, or you're stressed out in traffic, and then you go eat very fast in the fast food, that stuff accumulates with time, creating cortisol.

George:

[10:41] Your digestion doesn't go well. And guess what? In two hours, you're hungry again because the nutrients did not go to the bloodstream, you know, to do its nutritional work. So you see this visual cycle that we create ourselves. Then how are you not going to have acidity in your body, which, for example, one can of soda. One can of soda has between, depending on the soda, between 9 and 12 teaspoons of refined sugar. So if you drink one can of soda, you need to drink 32 glasses of water to alkaline to get yourself back to a pH balanced, which, by the way, I'm going to send you some stuff for your audience. I'll give you some links that you can share, and I put together certain documents that are really helpful in terms of prevention. If you do have, and here's a bold statement, but I learned it from a naturopath, when I made the decision to go natural, he said, look, disease cannot grow in a balanced pH system. So I knew that you have it. If you keep managing that acidity and you go down to a balanced pH.

George:

[12:02] You're going to eliminate the environment with these cancer cells like to, you know, strive to grow and duplicate because there's no acidity in your body. So you're going to receive an e-book explaining all the myths and stuff of how this pH stuff works. And then also a table that will show you the alkaline foods and the acidic foods and how, and that's what I do with my clients. I don't go, oh, go vegan, go paleo, go keto. So as a nutritionist, I don't believe everybody is different.

George:

[12:37] You cannot just jump into something.

David:

[12:40] So you mentioned two things. You mentioned inflammation in the body that promotes disease, and you also mentioned the acidic being very acidic versus a balanced pH. So both of those things, if you try to be managed.

George:

[12:54] Those are key. Those are key there. But the other thing is, and this is very important, And our holistic being is a combination of the body, your emotions, your mind, and your spirituality. So I use the metaphor of the four legs of the table. If one of them are missing, let's say the emotional body, the table cannot stand. Or if two are missing, which happens a lot of times with my clients, it happened to me.

George:

[13:28] The other thing that I need to emphasize here is that as all disease starts, chronic diseases start with an inflamed body, and this is, I just found this early this year at a summit and then we did some research. All disease, David, is emotional. It starts with our emotional clutter. Some beliefs that we may even have and create it, as we all know, since we're youngsters. Specifically from the age of one to nine, we make some beliefs that really do not serve us as adults and actually probably hold us back. And some of those beliefs in our experiences, if you haven't really worked on those, you're going to continue to have recurrences on whatever disease you have. It was for me, it was when I humbled myself and I said, you know, I was reading a lot. I didn't have a coach, but I was reading a lot. Google was pretty good. This is in 2002 and 2012. I've had the disease for 10 years.

George:

[14:38] And then I really found out about this, the power of forgiveness, the healing power of forgiveness. And I worked on that. And it was then, obviously, I had already made my decision to go natural. So there, it's almost like the universe. I'm a person of faith that God started sending angels to me. This guy appeared recommending something, somebody I never even thought he would step out to help me, you know. So the emotional clutter is really key to clear.

David:

[15:10] I didn't know that. I mean, I've heard of that a little bit about the emotions, how they affect your health, but I didn't know if there's any studies that show that. And you're basically saying that that's a very key element of bad health is bad emotions and I suppose being anxious and bitter and unforgiving and angry all the time or worried, all those would be under the bad portion.

George:

[15:33] You know, I love to speak. I like to go, you know, they say to do a workshop at a company or they invite me like they did now. And it was a vegan thing, but they invited me as a survivor. And so one thing that I offer when people call me, when I do, let's say, a promotion, or if I go and do a talk like in Toronto, I say, look, I can actually give you a roadmap to your health for free. I mean, we'll just have two sessions, one or two sessions, or one hour, an hour and a half, one session, an hour and a half, and I'll set you to a road to your health. But that road has two ways that you can use it, to manage, to get back to health, or to prevent the disease, any disease. And that's where really we don't want to be one of those two men that are going to have cancer, one of those three women, or we're going to be obese or overweight. By 2030, it's estimated that half of the United States will be obese if we don't change our ways. That is scary. 2030 is behind, right around the corner.

David:

[16:53] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I keep thinking about, I think it's Exodus 15, 26, where God said, if you listen and obey all my commandments and do what I tell you to do, I'll put none of these diseases upon you I put upon the Egyptians.

David:

[17:08] Amen. And there's a lot to be said for that because God talks about how to live life and how to be… emotionally at peace with yourself and with others. Now, if you can summarize it all up, what is one step my audience could take today to start down this path of better health, preventing debilitating diseases?

George:

[17:27] Slow down when you eat. Drop your fork. If you take a measurement of how many times you're chewing before you swallow. If you're below 10, then, boy, you need to don't go right away, but maybe increase it to 13. And if you're eating in 10 minutes, 12 minutes, make a goal to go to 15 minutes until you take at least 20 minutes to have a meal. That's cutting it short, but it's better than eight minutes, five minutes, or even in the car. So slow down, slow down when you eat. and basically take a couple of deep breaths before you start. Look at the meal. I call it essential eating. I'm going to put that in gift. Essential eating is nothing else but looking at your food and be thankful because 9 out of 10 people don't have a plate in front of them. Be thankful for that food and then enjoy the colors of it and start eating with gratitude. but slow.

George:

[18:35] I basically, sometimes my wife, we're having lunch and she goes, George, you're going too fast because maybe I have three sessions that day and that afternoon and, you know, and oh gosh, she has to remind me. And so we're human. But if you do it all the time, you are really, what you're doing is you're killing yourself. And here's a quote from a survivor that I have on my book. I'll send you all this stuff. He says, his quote is, cancer is a divine touch. He's a brother, a Christian brother. Cancer is a divine touch in the shoulder.

George:

[19:15] And that touch in the shoulder has a message. And the message is, David, you have to change your ways because you're killing yourself. Change your lifestyle because you're killing yourself. You know, we are all going to go. You know, when I started to talk, I always started to break the ice and say, hey, how many in the audience is, how many people in the audience are, you know, are terminal? And so a few people always raise their hand, bless their soul, but nobody else. And then I say, hey, for those who didn't raise their hands, if this was a test you flunked, we're all terminal. We don't know, but we're going to live one day. We don't know that day, but we're all terminal. And I do that on purpose because when a patient hears that from a doctor, they go home and die. And that's not really the truth. And then I asked a second question. I said, okay, before I start, now raise your hand if you are 100% sure that you're going to open your eyes tomorrow morning. And nobody raised their hand. They got the message. We don't know, man. We just really don't know. So, you know, thankful at night when you're going to go to sleep and in the morning just thank the Lord, thank God, thank the universe. whatever your beliefs are, but we're not here forever.

David:

[20:44] That's right. Hey, that's good advice. Slow down, eat. And thank you, George, for so much for your knowledge and expertise and encouragement today. You know, Solomon wrote that he who walks with wise men will be wise, and he'll companion your fools will be destroyed.

David:

[20:59] Today you have spent some time with George and David, and so be wise and put into action what you've heard so you can redeem your time, redeem your business, and operate your business to the glory of God. And remember that time has limits. Yo