Peak Performance, ultra performer, who we're talking to
Host:today is Alan Stein, he's been the director of performance for
Host:pure sweat basketball, working with elite high school, college,
Host:and NBA players doing things for like the Nike skills Academy,
Host:the McDonald's all American game, the Jordan Brand classic,
Host:you know, the NBA Players Association, top 100 Yeah,
Host:that's what pure sweat does. And Allen does a lot of the
Host:performance work, which we're going to talk about, he has
Host:since moved into sort of the speaking world and, and doing
Host:training and so forth. So we wanted to talk about the high
Host:performer, you know, the habits of high performers. So Alan,
Host:welcome to the show.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Hey, thanks so much for having me, I'm looking
Host:forward to a fun conversation.
Host:So when you think about preparing somebody, you know, to
Host:compete in the NBA, I know one of the things that you talk
Host:about is this sort of like pyramid concept.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Absolutely. I mean, for the for the players on
Host:court, in order for a player to be the best player that they're
Host:capable of, we look at four different components. The bottom
Host:of the pyramid, the base, the foundation for the whole thing
Host:happens to be my area of expertise, which is their body,
Host:and improving their athleticism, improving their ability to move
Host:efficiently on the court, and to remain as injury free as
Host:possible, then we go one level up skill acquisition, you know,
Host:doesn't matter how athletic a player is, if they can't shoot,
Host:pass, rebound, defend or handle the ball, then it really doesn't
Host:matter. Then we go at one more level, and we start talking
Host:about the mind, which is two separate areas, we want to look
Host:at one, we want to make sure a player has the mental toughness
Host:and fortitude to compete every day. But we also want to make
Host:sure they have a very high basketball IQ, that they know
Host:how and when to use their skills and their athleticism to be as
Host:effective as possible. And then the apex of the pyramid is their
Host:heart. That's their grit, their passion, you know, their motor,
Host:if you will. And and we found that when you can improve a
Host:player in those four distinct areas, almost like you're
Host:putting together a jigsaw puzzle, you'll create the best
Host:basketball player that they're capable of becoming.
Host:So do you start at the bottom and sort of work your way
Host:up?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: It is rather sequential. Now, when we say
Host:working on their strength and conditioning in their body, when
Host:most people hear strength and conditioning, they usually
Host:envision a player, you know, doing a bench press or have a
Host:barbell on their back and doing squats. That's not necessarily
Host:what we're talking about, we're talking about improving their
Host:coordination, and their balance, their motor control their
Host:proprioception, just getting them in touch with their body.
Host:And we do that with very young players. I mean, I'll do events
Host:that have kids that are seven or eight years old, where we're
Host:teaching them movement patterns, you know, do they have rhythm
Host:and coordination in their feet working on their footwork, so
Host:really just teaching them how to control their body. Because as
Host:you can imagine, if a player can't control their body, if
Host:they can't start and stop and jump, and land and move forwards
Host:and backwards, they're gonna have a lot of difficulty doing
Host:fine motor skills, like shooting and passing and ball handling.
Host:So yes, we address the body first. And then we level up and
Host:we start teaching them the skills of the game. And that
Host:will be rudimentary skills. You know, here's how you make a
Host:bounce fast. Here's how you dribble between your legs. Then
Host:the next layer is the IQ portion, which is the teach
Host:them. So it's one thing to know how to make a bounce pass, it's
Host:another to know when to make abouts pass. So how do they
Host:apply their skills and their athleticism. And then in all
Host:honesty, and in full humility and transparency, the top the
Host:apex in the heart, that's the one I believe that we as coaches
Host:have the least impact on that needs to come from the players.
Host:Now we can motivate, we can inspire, we can model the fact
Host:that we love what we do, and we're passionate about coaching.
Host:But at the end of the day, a player has to want to be the
Host:best player that they're capable of. So when we get all the way
Host:to the top, that's almost when we pass the baton to the player
Host:and say, Okay, now how bad do you want it? We've given you the
Host:raw materials and the tools to be as good as you can be. Now
Host:you need to actualize it.
Host:So do you think that the you know, I mean, I think that
Host:gets to the question, which is irrelevant. Obviously, most of
Host:us listening here, we're not going to probably make us make a
Host:run at playing in the NBA. But that gets at the question of do
Host:you think Ultra performers are made or are they born? What's
Host:your take on that?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: And in that in the world of athleticism, you
Host:certainly have to be born with certain genetic predispositions
Host:that would give you the potential to compete at that
Host:level. And here's what I tell you On players all the time when
Host:I say with with a friendly smile, if I'm talking to a group
Host:of young players, I'll say, every single one of you has the
Host:potential to make it to the NBA. However, less than half of a
Host:percent of you have the potential to make it as a
Host:player. And the point being that, you know, most players
Host:that are using sports as a vehicle to learn life lessons, I
Host:mean, they can still make it to the NBA, but they'd have to make
Host:it as a coach, or a referee, or heck, maybe even as an owner or
Host:a general manager. So if their goal is to make their living in
Host:the game of basketball, and be in the NBA, I want them to go
Host:after that with everything that they have. But the reality for
Host:most normal human beings is they weren't born with the athletic
Host:tools to play in the NBA. And I don't ever say that to
Host:discourage or diminish a player, I want them to go after that. I
Host:mean, when I was eight, I thought I was going to play in
Host:the NBA and I went after it with everything I could. And it just
Host:wasn't in the cards but so I don't want players to be
Host:discouraged from going from their for their goal. But you
Host:have to realize that a guy like LeBron James, or Kevin Durant,
Host:those guys were born with certain tools that most people
Host:weren't born with. However, and this is a big however, that is
Host:not to take away from the work ethic and the habits and grit.
Host:The players like LeBron and KD have, just because they were
Host:born with some physical tools doesn't automatically give them
Host:the golden ticket to the NBA. You know, Kevin Durant's, not
Host:the only 610 guy walking around, there's plenty of them who
Host:didn't actualize their potential, who didn't create
Host:habits, who didn't do the things that they needed to do. So a guy
Host:like LeBron, or KD was born with the raw materials to make it to
Host:that level. And yet they've worked incredibly hard,
Host:incredibly smart, and with tremendous consistency in order
Host:to make that happen. But Spud Webb and Mugsy Bogues, and Earl
Host:Boykins. And some of the other players that were on the shorter
Host:side, certainly had so many other physical tools to allow
Host:them to be able to play at that level, you know, even a ticket
Host:player like Stephen Curry. I mean, he's one of the top
Host:players in the game, arguably the best hitter in the game. And
Host:when you just look at him just standing there, he looks like a
Host:normal guy. He has a normal frame. I mean, he's a little bit
Host:taller than the average male but you know, he, you know, he
Host:doesn't pass the eye test the way that a LeBron James does.
Host:However, when you really look at athleticism, I mean, Stefan
Host:Curry was born with some some pretty good genetic hookups, I
Host:mean, his hand eye coordination, his balance, we can't just look
Host:at height, and one's ability to jump or run as the only
Host:barometers of athletic success. I mean, the these guys can do so
Host:many other things. Steve Nash is another one. Steve Nash is one
Host:of my all time favorite players, and most novice fans would not
Host:consider him a great athlete, because he wasn't a high flyer
Host:or a dunker. Well, if you take all of the other areas of
Host:athleticism, his mobility, his reaction, his hand eye
Host:coordination, his conditioning level, I mean, Steve Nash would
Host:right off of the charts in those other areas. So even though
Host:Steve Nash may look like a normal guy, and he's not winning
Host:dunk contests, he's in the upper, you know, point oh, one
Host:percentile of the human population when it comes to
Host:athleticism. And certainly not every player that's currently on
Host:an NBA roster was born with just unbelievable genetic gifts, lots
Host:of people have been able to overcome certain deficiencies,
Host:because they had an exceptional skill. You know, I mean, if you
Host:can flat out shoot the ball, that will make up for maybe a
Host:lack of some natural athleticism that you don't have. And and I
Host:would say the same is true for being a high performer in any
Host:vocation. I mean, certainly, if you're going to be a world class
Host:singer, it would help for you to be born with the tools that
Host:would make it you know, make you privy to being a world class
Host:singer. But that doesn't mean that you can't be an incredibly
Host:successful salesperson or CEO or entrepreneur. So that's why I
Host:love the transition from sport to business, because it's less
Host:reliant on one's genetics and or athleticism.
Host:So when you look over then to the business world, do you
Host:think that that same rule applies that it's like to
Host:compete at the highest level a bit to be a fortune 100 CEO? Is
Host:there certain a genetic predisposition that is necessary
Host:to make it to that level? Are you saying in the business
Host:world, it's more of an equal playing field?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: I'm gonna say it's both and I don't say that
Host:to back out of an answer. I do think that there are some
Host:inherent traits that one can be born with that will improve
Host:their chances of being successful in that arena. Not
Host:everyone was born you know, with the with the academic IQ of a
Host:Warren Buffett or a Steve Jobs you know, not everyone was born
Host:with the inherit leadership skills that some of the best
Host:leaders like a Coach K. Duke basketball may have. So I do
Host:think there are certain traits and talents that one can be born
Host:with that will greatly increase their chances of being
Host:successful. But I also think a good portion of what's needed,
Host:our skills and skills can be developed and they're developed
Host:through repetition. When and through training and practicing
Host:with purpose. So I do believe it's both do I think every human
Host:being born has the potential to be a fortune 100 CEO? No, I do
Host:not. Do I think of a good portion of people can develop
Host:the skills that will put them in a position to be able to hold
Host:jobs like that.
Host:So is there anything in common in terms of maybe the
Host:habits that you see of the people who you go like on the
Host:surface, you go, Gosh, that person doesn't really come off.
Host:Like you mentioned, Steve Nash doesn't look like they have the
Host:genetic predisposition to be doing what they're doing, or the
Host:business world you go cast, that person doesn't really seem to
Host:have kind of like the natural charisma to be a great
Host:salesperson or a great leader. But somehow they rise above
Host:that.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Yeah, there's two in particular that come to mind.
Host:One, the habits and mindsets, rituals, routines, and
Host:disciplines that they have during the unseen hours. It's
Host:what they're doing when the proverbial cameras aren't on
Host:that that really determines whether or not they'll be
Host:successful. Because at some level, we all have to appreciate
Host:the fact that our habits are a choice, you know, and our habits
Host:are what dictate whether or not we're successful in any
Host:endeavor. Our success is not predicated on things we do when
Host:we feel like it, when it's convenient, or when we want to
Host:our success is predicated on the things that we do every single
Host:day. So the people that create incredibly strong and positive
Host:work habits and are consistent with those are going to
Host:outperform and out achieve most other people. And the other is
Host:high performers. And high achievers have a relentless
Host:thirst for development, they are always looking to get an
Host:advantage and always looking to learn to grow to develop to
Host:sharpen their sword, and master their craft. A friend of mine
Host:named Michael Burke, who was a former basketball coach and is
Host:now in the business world as well. Like he coined a term that
Host:I love called execution gap, an execution gap is the difference
Host:between what we know we're supposed to do. And what we
Host:actually do. And every one of us has an execution gap. I mean,
Host:take physical fitness, everybody knows what they need to do to
Host:work out and to eat, right. But how many people actually do
Host:that? That's an execution gap. But we all have it. Well, the
Host:highest performers and the highest achievers. And for that
Host:matter, the happiest people on the planet, have narrowed their
Host:execution gap to almost nothing. They know what they're supposed
Host:to do, and they actually do it. And to me, that's the big
Host:equalizer, is what you do in the unseen hours, how bad you have
Host:the desire to improve and get better. And if you can close
Host:that execution gap. There's no reason why you can't be
Host:excellent and sales are excellent as a leader, if you're
Host:willing to work on those skill sets. And then if you take out
Host:let's say you're born and add it to that, then you're a
Host:superstar.
Host:On your perspective, how do you do it? How do you get
Host:yourself to do those things you know, you're supposed to do when
Host:you don't feel like doing it.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: From an accountability standpoint, I
Host:believe that, as human beings, whenever the spotlight is off,
Host:we're always going to revert back to bad behavior. So from an
Host:accountability standpoint, we need to put systems in place
Host:that always keep the spotlight on us. So for instance, if I'm
Host:looking to change a habit, my I want to start reading for 30
Host:minutes every night before I go to bed, it's in my best interest
Host:to share that with as many people as possible, especially
Host:the people in my inner circle, my family, my friends, my close
Host:colleagues, even in today's day and age, share it on social
Host:media, put it out there and let everyone know that this is a
Host:habit that you're trying to establish, because now the
Host:people that really care about you will help hold you
Host:accountable. So tomorrow you and I are chit chat, and you say,
Host:hey, Alan, did you do your reading last night? What did you
Host:read, tell me about what book you're into whatever. But now
Host:I'm going to have lots of people holding me accountable. And one
Host:of the worst emotions that any of us can ever feel is
Host:disappointing somebody else. So when you've put it out there,
Host:that you're going to change this habit to a lot of people, and
Host:they're constantly checking in with you and holding you
Host:accountable to see if you're doing it, you know, in order to
Host:not disappoint them. It's a way to keep that spotlight on you
Host:and hold you to the fire while you stick with that habit. And
Host:then the beautiful part about habits. You know, research shows
Host:that it can take as little as 21 days, sometimes as much as six
Host:to eight months to groove a new habit depending on you know, the
Host:depth of the habit, but it's still a finite period of time.
Host:So key is put systems in place to get the people that care
Host:about you to hold the spotlight on you for say three weeks to
Host:six months, and you'll have formed that new habit and then
Host:you can move on to another habit that you'd like to improve.
Host:I love it. Alan, where do you want people to go if they
Host:want to connect with you?
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Go to AlanSteinjr.com That's a l a n
Host:Ste i n jr.com. And I'm also at AlanSteinJr. on all social
Host:handles.
Host:Well, I appreciate it, brother and appreciate you
Host:coming on man. We wish you all the best.
Host:Alan Stein Jr: Thank you, likewise.