Hey, it's David. Welcome back to A Changed Mind, a sanctuary for your spirit, a place where I remind you each and every episode of the certainty of the goodness of the future. I am really looking forward to sharing with you around this topic of recovery. And this topic of recovery, many of you know that I have a background in 12-step recovery, both in Alcoholics Anonymous, Drug Addicts Anonymous, Sex Addicts Anonymous. I'm sure I was a workaholic. I've got some codependency tendencies, but I worked a 12-step program starting back in 2010. And I felt like this is a great opportunity to share what I've gotten out of 12-step and what I've gotten out of fellowship, because some of it may resonate with you. It might tell you to take a look at your own life or, and see perhaps what's going on from an addiction standpoint. It may not be a substance abuse addiction or some other traditional type of addiction that you're experiencing, but you're experiencing obsessive compulsive thinking in your mind, constantly worrying or stressed or anxious or overwhelmed, controlling or impairing yourself to other people, or struggling with procrastination or indecision. And the power of fellowship, a fellowship, whatever the fellowship is of people who are looking to improve themselves. And most importantly, which I'll be going deeper into to create a conscious connection with a higher power of their understanding, because it's an important part of the healing process. By the way, it doesn't have to be God. It doesn't have to be Jesus. It can be whatever you want. But just that there is a mechanism functioning in your own life that is able to support you in really miraculous ways in those areas where perhaps you've been putting in a lot of energy and effort, but not producing the change that you're wanting to create. If this is your first time here, welcome. If you're a repeat listener or watcher, we are on the podcast platforms, Apple and Spotify, also on YouTube. Do me a favor. If you love this episode or you've loved other episodes, leave me a rating and a review. And if you're watching on YouTube, this is a great place for us to engage. You can leave me a comment. You can subscribe to all these platforms so that you get new episodes when they come out. And this is sort of a behind the scenes of, of a secret society called 12 Step. And I was actually inspired to record this episode after I got back from a meeting yesterday. It was a Sunday. I woke up at around 630 to get down to the San Juan Puerto Rico AA meeting. And the reason why I was at the meeting was actually part of my recommitting to my spirit, getting back into recovery and into my program. My wife had pointed out that I had really moved back into a lot of chronic worry, chronic overwhelm. It expresses itself through the language that I'm using. And she sort of shows up in physiology and she said, Hey, like, I don't know what you need to do, but you need to address because I think we all go through different cycles in our journeys. And sometimes even I feel a little bit ashamed at what I'm going through. It's like, geez, I teach stuff. And now I'm in another place where, you know, I've, I'm, I'm struggling. I'm experiencing the types of thoughts or emotions or behaviors that I'm coaching other people through. But I also realized that, you know, that's what makes me a teacher. Like I'm actually going on the journey with you and a series of things that showed up recently that just sort of triggered that old mechanism inside of me of worry. Some things around our business, some things around personal life. You know, without getting into too much detail, I, I found myself in a place of worry and you know, I don't know, maybe you're in a place of worry right now, or maybe you're in a place of anxiety, right? Or maybe you're in a place of frustration, right? Or stress. You know, these emotions have become so normalized that oftentimes I ask people if they're experiencing any suffering because all of this is suffering and people go, no, I'm not suffering. I'm stressed. Well, it's not, it's not normal, right? It's okay. It's totally fine to be stressed, but it's not normal. It's not the way that we were built to operate from the parasympathetic nervous system, from rest and relaxation. We were supposed to move into stress when we were truly in danger and move into fight or flight where we release all these, you know, neurochemicals and adrenaline. The body's not meant to sustain that, but we're living this way on an ongoing basis, which is why we see such an incredible rise in disease and an increased suicide rates and anti-anxiety or anti-depression medications. And so, you know, what I learned in my own life is that the key isn't for me to stop worrying. The key isn't for me to actually control my external circumstances so that I don't worry, right? That's sort of a condition, but the key is for me to reconnect and strengthen my relationship with the power greater than, and it may seem a little bit counterintuitive or nonlinear, but what I've seen is that my alcoholism, my drug addiction, my sex addiction, those were just symptoms of, of, of a disease, a dis-ease that was being created by a spiritual. And so the solution is a spiritual recovery. And I find that in my 12-step-ery and it's also part of the motivation of why we've created our 12-step healing structure called The Whole Human Framework and why we've built a community around it. And so I want to talk about the first three-step of Alcoholics Anonymous. And of course there are nine more, which I won't get into today. And I want to talk about the dynamics of the meeting and why the fellowship's so important. I ended up going to an early morning meeting a couple of days ago and there were only four people there. One of them didn't speak any English and I don't speak any Spanish. And I thought to myself, Oh man, I really needed a good meeting this morning and there's only four people here. Truth is, is that no matter how many people are in the room, I feel grounded in my relationship with my higher power. Every time I go back to a 12-step meeting, I feel at home because I know whether it's one, two, three, 10, 15, 20 people in the room, that these are, these are people who speak my language. These are people who understand that whatever's going on in their life, challenge or frustration and the emotion come along with it. When we feel these negative emotions, it's because it's asking us for an opportunity to trust in our higher power more. Now I truly believe that there is a power greater than us that's working for our greatest growth, our greatest prosperity, our greatest evolution. And it is the one all encompassing omnipotent, omniscient power. Whether you want to call it the universe or you want to call it nature or you want to call it Allah or Jesus or God or the force or source energy. And I think a big part of the spiritual journey is learning how to, in the present moment, be aware of the fact that whatever's going on in your life is actually working for you, even though you may not be able to see it in the moment. And so when I go back into the 12-step rooms, people share their stories of what they're experiencing on a daily basis. They're sharing their challenges, they're sharing their victories, but they're speaking it through the lens of the 12-step. And so it's a reminder for me that whatever's going on in my life, right, that I'm trying to control, that is not working itself out, that I actually need to stop controlling it. And it's very paradoxical. But what you'll find is that when there's something in your life that you want to change, let's say you're, you know, you're struggling in your business and so you're stressed about it and now you're wanting to find a solution to your business, your challenges, right? Let's say to generate more revenue or attract clients, but now you're in a place of stress or what we would call a primal state and you're trying to solve the problem from that place. And so, you know, trying to solve the problem from that place is ineffective because if you're feeling stressed, you're going to have stressful thoughts, stressful emotions, and you're going to take stress-based action. You know, do you think you can produce change that you're wanting to create from, from stress? Clearly the answer is no. And so the answer is, so the solution to it is we have to find a way to get into what we would call a powerful, to be rest and relax. And oftentimes that means counter-intuitively stepping away from the problem and trusting that if you step away from the problem, that the problem will adjust so that you may come back to it with a different mind of thinking. You may give it more time and realize that, Oh wow, I didn't need to get this thing done on the timing that I needed to get it. I thought I needed to get it done on. Um, other people or circumstances or situations may show up to support you in resolving the challenge or the problem that you have. Right. But it's, but it's a matter of stepping back and that step back or what's called surrender I have found, uh, becomes possible when we believe that there is another force operating. Because if we believe that it's just all us, then the ego or the mind will inspire us, not, that's the wrong word, compel us to take more action from a stress based place, which just produces more chaos around the challenge that we're wanting to resolve. And so, you know, this idea of being able to step back and let go and as we say in recovery, let God is an important concept in our life. If you're experiencing a chronic health condition and you've been trying to solve it for a long, long time, clearly you haven't been able to resolve it. The doctors haven't been able to resolve it. And now you become stressed about the situation. And so what if, is there a possibility if the solution is for you to move into relaxation, what would compel you to move into relaxation? And frankly, I don't think it matters what it is, but what we in addiction recovery have found is that what allows us to, to move into relaxation is this belief that there's a power greater than ourselves that will step in if we create the space. And that's actually fundamental to the first three steps of Alcoholics Anonymous. First three steps are basically, um, realize we were powerless of our addiction and our lives become unmanable. And many, many people today, maybe you in some area of your life that you're, you're, you can realize you're powerless over some challenge that's going on, even though you're continuing to try to fix it to no avail. And in fact, fixing it as just increasing the level of stress, complicating problem, right? And so we're powerless over this situation in our life and our thinking around it. And as a result, our lives had become unmanageable. The second step is that we came to believe a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity and sanity, uh, is the opposite of insanity. And so there may be some areas in your life right now where you're, you're feeling insane, you're engaged in insane thinking, even though you've attempted the same form of thinking or the same form of trying to control your external circumstances, it's never worked yet. Your mind is telling you, you need to do it again and you need to do it again. And you need to do it again. And you, and you, you're expending all of this energy on this behavior or thought process or emotion or control or external management that has never proven to be beneficial for you, but you don't really know another way, right? Because the mind doesn't know another way that's insanity. And so in step two of Alcoholics Anonymous, we come to believe that a power greater than ourselves can restore us. And step three is really the how of all of where we make a decision to turn our lives and our will over to the power, over to our higher power as we understand our higher power, the language is over to God as we understand God. So there's this, it's really a development of faith. And the reason why I'm sharing this is you may be going through a faith building process, right? I really believe that the challenges that show up in our life that we are not able to manage, right? Like you can brush your own teeth, right? I'm not saying you turn that over to a higher power. You're capable of doing that and you've seen that you're capable, but you may have experienced that you're not, you don't seem to be capable of getting out of financial insecurity. And you've got a lot of worry and compulsion and psychological and emotional addiction around scarcity. And, uh, same thing. I give the example of a health problem, but how about relationship, right? You're powerless over meeting your partner. You go from date after date after date in a cycle of toxic relationship. And no matter what you do or what you think or how you, what behavior you do, it ends up producing the same result. And you keep thinking that you need to do something similar or just change the tactic, uh, uh, recalibrate the tactic a little bit, but it keeps producing the same result. And so you may be experiencing some insanity in your life, some powerlessness in your life. And, uh, and my guess is that there's an opportunity in that area of your life, uh, to let in a little bit more of what I'm standing. And these are the three principles that are really at the foundation of, uh, I think of Alcoholics Anonymous, other people may disagree, right? The first, second and third step of Alcoholics Anonymous, which are basically I can't, I can't, and I'm clear on he can. And I'm clear on that because I've seen the miracles that have occurred in my life. So, uh, so I'll let him, right. And that's the surrender piece. I'm going to step away from doing what I would ordinarily do in my ordinarily method of thinking, no matter how scary it is. And I'm actually just going to go do something else, right? I'm going to go for a walk with the kids or the dog. I'm going to go do a yoga. I'm going to, uh, play with my furry friend. I'm going to take a bubble bath. I'm going to do some, uh, inspirational reading. And, uh, and I trust that if I create that space, my higher power will intervene to help me resolve my financial insecurity. But if I just keep pushing and pressing up against that low number in my bank account and just start and continue to invest, uh, and direct all of my focus and energy and attention into it, well, we know that where, you know, energy goes, where focus goes, energy. And so, you know, what we make matter, matter, it literally becomes matter. It materialized. And so this idea of a higher power intervening in our life, whether it's true or not is really like neurophysiologically justified because if you can just downright regulate your nervous system, step away from the problem and relax a little bit rather than continue to obsess about it, even when you're not engaged with the problem, right? Like the problem's not following you around usually 24 seven, but you bring it with you everywhere you go. And if you could just set that rock down, it creates this space where this infinite intelligence can begin to intervene and it'll intervene through thoughts and ideas that you have. It'll intervene through, um, communication through other people. It'll intervene through synchronicities and coincidences, help showing up, resources showing up. And that's really why, uh, again, one of the reasons why I go to 12 step meetings is because I know that my higher power communicates to me through what other people share. You know, that we are one intelligence or one consciousness that's being expressed through all of humanity, through each individual, right? One infinite intelligence that is having these individuated experiences to create complexity and learning and awareness to expand awareness. But I know that my God speaks to me through what other people say. I'm sure you've had a situation before where like there's been something on your mind or on your heart and like someone speaks directly into it. So if we can put ourselves in environment with healthy people moving in healthy direction, oftentimes we, we, we gain access to another kind of feature set of how all of this works, which is we can hear what our mind has been too busy to be able to hear through the word and the experiences of other people. That's why fellowship is so important. Whether you're living in your spiritual fellowship, your religious fellowship, Christian fellowship, or Muslim fellowship, Buddhist fellowship, um, or your 12 step recovery fellowship or a men's group or a women's group or whatever the connection is, there's a power to having people gather in one place who are all oriented in the same direct, uh, the thoughts, the ideas that you need in order to keep you moving in that direction will come to you through the spoken word of other people. And, uh, and so yesterday I went to a 12 step meeting and we read the daily meditation, which was really appropriate because I've been worrying about some experiences I've been having with my, with my, with my physical body. And that's exactly what the daily meditation was. Uh, and the solution was not to go solve your physical challenges. The solution was deepen your spiritual connection because our higher power or God or whatever you want to call it is the source of health. It is the source of finance. It is the source of relationship. It is the source of business growth. It is the source of clarity in your life or, or it is the source of purpose. It is the source of anything that you desire right now in your life, whether it's material or psychological or emotional, higher power is the source of, and a very good friend of mine. So, so the solution right to whatever challenge you have is to deepen your spiritual.connection. Whatever your process is for that, right? Like, we have a process with the whole human framework, but whatever your process is for you, the idea is, and again, just to use the word so that we can connect, you know, in a very simple way, you know, find a way to go back to God, to rest in God over this situation. And if you create a little bit of space, you give the room for something new to show up, right? And again, I'm not suggesting that it's always an external influence that shows up, you know, someone shows up at your front door and solves your problem, but it changes your brain, because just this idea of stepping away from the problem and trusting that some higher power of your own understanding will intervene to resolve the situation, it down regulates your nervous. So this is neurophysiologically proven. You could even argue that, well, we're just kind of making this God thing up, but it works because of the way the human being operating system works. Now, I don't think, I personally don't believe that's the case. You know, I've got some other episodes where I talk about my theory on the universe and consciousness and what God is and the Jesus question, and certainly I bring a lot of East teachings into our conversations, and I actually started to list Quran on an audiobook, because I want this conversation that we're having to be available to everybody. But neurophysiologically, whether the God thing is true, we relax, right? If you just believe that by stepping away from the problem, you create space for an extraordinary power to intervene through you and through others, then you relax. And the relaxation is really, really important, because Einstein said you cannot solve a problem with the same consciousness created. So anywhere you're looping in your life right now, what's happening is some limiting belief or some trauma has created a situation, and now you're reacting to the situation, and that reaction is bringing up and triggering within you the limiting belief in the trauma again. And then you're trying to solve the situation from the same level of conscience, from from some form of fear. And so that's why we end up in these loops, and we end up in these cycles of kind of creating this chaos over and over and over again. So how do we move from the chaos? Well, we move back into some order, right? And the order is natural. The order will reestablish itself. We just don't insert chaos. I love what BJ Palmer, founder of Chiropractic, says. He says nature needs no help, just no resistance. And we end up bringing resistance through our fears, through our doubts, through our limiting beliefs, through our traumas, through our stories. We insert resistance into this kind of perfectly organized system that has its way of playing itself out, right? Sometimes we go through relationships that we thought were the one, and they weren't, in order to get to the one that is. Sometimes we go through health challenges in order to learn something, so that we can learn the valuable lesson, and then our bodies heal. Sometimes we go through business contractions. We grow a business, and then things turn and twist and pivot, and the revenue or the income decreases. But then you become reborn, like Phoenix, right? Out of the contraction into an even better, more scalable business model that's more authentically aligned with who you are and your true passion. So I'm not suggesting that it's not linear, but the order is there. Like the mathematics of spirit, the geometry of the universe is infallible, and underpinning all of it is love, because it's working for our greatest growth, greatest evolution, greatest prosperity, if we're just willing to kind of breathe through the discomfort, oftentimes, of growth in the journey. But what happens is we get to a point within a natural orderly process, working for our greatest growth, and then all of a sudden we go, holy shit, this is not what I expected. Tense up, we lock down, and now the energy can't move. It's almost like your storyline stops in an individual chapter that you live over and over and over again, like Bill Murray in Groundhog. So what I found is that the solution is not something tangible or intellectual or practical. It's not a different action or a different strategy. It's actually developing a practice of reconnecting with that entire orderly structure and allowing. Then if you can do that, now the whole movie starts moving. So in 12-step, it's the first three-step, right? I can't, he can, I'll let him. And that meant that every time I wanted to pick up a drink or pick up a joint or take a look at pornography or do whatever I was doing to make myself feel better, I said, I don't need to do that. I'm going to surrender all the feelings and all the emotions or the challenges that are triggering to a power greater than. And I would go to places where I felt connected to my spirituality. I would call someone else in the program, say, hey, this is how I'm feeling, and they would either remind me or I would remind myself that, hey, the way forward is my spiritual program. It's not the insanity of continuing to engage in the behavior I was engaged in. It's not the insanity of continuing to engage in the actions that I was taking. The solution is actually deepening my spiritual connection. If I can deepen my spiritual connection, then the effect is the problems of my life resolved and that I am more, I experience more grace, more calm, more peace during that process of resolution. Because I'm not suggesting that there aren't times where you'll track, you know, there are also, there's loss in our life. And, you know, because we don't experience all of our incarnations simultaneously, we become very attached to the, to people in this life who we lose, or we become very afraid of the loss of our own life. And so that's maybe the greatest form of surrender, is trusting that a power greater than ourselves, if it was truly loving, would never completely separate us in eternity from people that we love. Or that a loving, you know, omniscient, omnipotent power would not give us the experience of one lifetime and then go, well, there's no lifetimes after, but that this would be an ongoing curricula or a series of courses, you know, teaching us life after life after life, how to become more courageous, how to become more compassionate, how to become more loving, how to become more noble, right? How to become a little bit more like how we experience God in nature, right? Or the qualities in people that we feel really resonant, right? Or as the, you know, again, not as a religious connotation, but as, as, as the, as the God on earth was represented in characters, qualities of Jesus Christ, which I'll get into in another episode, sort of my, my perspective on the Jesus piece. But my encouragement in this conversation is for you to seek spiritual solution, whatever that is for you. Double down on your meditation, get into a spiritual community, get into our community, start working the 12 steps. If you're struggling with it, go into a 12 step and start working the 12 step and get a response because the, the promises of 12 steps is far beyond, hey, you're going to stop drinking or you're going to stop drugging. The promises are extraordinarily beautiful. They talk about how before you're even halfway done step, you're going to experience a new way of life, a new way of thinking that fear of financial insecurity and fear of others will leave you, that you will know intuitively what to do. You were baffled before and you will see that a higher power is working in your life, ways that in doing that you could never do for yourself, right? Those are, those are massive promises. That's a lot of, a hell of a lot more than, hey, you're going to stop drinking, hey, you're going to stop drugging. Why? Because the drinking and the drugging and the sexing is a symptom of disconnection from spirit and disconnect from self. And so if you're experiencing a lot of stress, anxiety, overwhelm, frustration, anger, if you're operating suffering or what we would call primal state, to a degree that it's causing you pain in your life, you're not going to alleviate yourself of that pain by kind of fixing problem. That's just a conditional temporary solution. Those are all symptoms of a disconnect from a trust in a higher power. And I'm really working on this, right? You know, I'm grateful for the fact Carol had pointed this out to me because I want to have a very personal relationship with a higher power. I want to feel my higher power. I want to be able to rest in my higher power and not live day to day and crippling anxiety, right? And I don't just mean anxiety. I just mean the anxiety of life about in Buddhism, right? It's just this ever-present feeling that I'm alone or that it's up to me or that I have to, that it's my job to produce certain. And yeah, I need to do the work, right? That's part of it. But to know the difference between when it's my work to do or when I need to step away and renew. And in that, for me, I'm describing it as allowing a higher power to insert itself, to work its magic. We say the serenity prayer at the end of every 12-step meeting or most 12-step meetings. And it's, God grant me the serenity to accept things I cannot change, courage to change the things, and the wisdom to know the difference. So we have to be courageous to take the action that we feel inspired to, even though we may be afraid. But that's different than this obsessive, impulsive, repetitive pattern behavior driven by the mind that's causing you a tremendous amount of suffering, right? That's the part where it's God grant me the serenity, right? To know the difference, right? Between the action I should take and when I need to step back to rest you. And again, what does that look like? Being out in nature, reading a book, take care of yourself. I had a private client at one of my events who came up to me and she said, you know, I really feel like I'm burning out and I probably should never have started the business. I've been attracted. Now I'm in financial insecurity. I need a business plan from you. I've got to turn this around in the next 90 days. I'm stressed. And I said, well, when the business was going well, like, what were you doing? And she said, well, I was going to church once a week. I was volunteering for this organization once a week. I was getting together with friends for dinner once a week. I said, are you still doing those things? She says, no, I'm just isolated. And isolating is a is a really indicative symptom of a spiritual disc. That's different when you choose to have alone time. What happens over time is your ego will isolate. We talk about addiction as cunning, baffling, and powerful. The mind will try to convince you that, hey, you don't even have time to connect. You just need to sit around and worry or take action from from a primal state. So it's important I'm sharing that with you in case you're isolating, right? Because you can plug back in even though it may feel a little bit uncomfortable at first. It was uncomfortable when I went back to my, you know, first 12-step meeting in a year, a couple of weeks. It was uncomfortable. But I knew I needed to do it because I knew the answer was so simple, but I needed to do it. I had to connect back into my spirituality and I had to do it in a way that there was also fellowship. There were other human beings. Such an important part of it. It wasn't just about reading a spiritual book. Sure, that's part of my practice. It was about being in regular conversation on an ongoing basis, multiple times a week, with people who have been where I've been and who are wanting to go where I'm going or who are there, right? And so it's important to notice that if you're isolated because my recommendation to my private client was, well, here's your business. Start having dinner with your friends once a week. Go back and volunteer at that organization a week and get back to church. She's like, well, how's that a business plan? I said, those are the things that are gonna plug you back into who you were when you were having business success. The business success is just an effect of who you're being. And if you're being isolated from your higher power, you cannot be successful. In other words, your God, your universe, your spirit, your Jesus, your Allah, whatever it is, truly loves you so much that it's gonna create situations and circumstances to bring you back into relation. Because it is the source of all abundance and biz growth, health, relationship, all the qualities and material things that we desire. So the system is perfect and you can know how far you've drifted, right, by where you are in your life and the emotional condition with which you're experiencing. Because that doesn't mean that if you're in recovery or if you're working through our programs or if you're part of, you know, spiritual or group or organization or fellowship that you really feel connected with, it doesn't mean that the shit's not show up in your life. It is. But we see people who have shit going on in their life but they handle it with grace. That means they handle it with a higher power. They handle it with God. And so the degree of their suffering is so much less and the resolution of the problem is so much faster, right, as a result of spiritual connection versus someone who's kind of out there on their own, thinks that they are the creator of their own universe, that tries to manage their external circumstances through their own, you know, grinding and effort, who suffers tremendously through an experience that not only seems to last a long time but also seems to show up in sight. So those are the differences. So I wanted to share that with you. I hope it's valuable. I think that we get very confused around how to solve challenges in our life and I actually think it's really, really simple. It doesn't mean it's easy, right? It's a practice. I feel even as I'm getting back into recovery, like, you know, the brain changes gradual. I'm starting to notice where some of the principles that we talk about and we read and that are taught in the 12-step program, they come to my mind once in a while, combat the limiting beliefs or the worry obsession or obsession. I'm finding that connecting with other people at least once a day who are in the program at least gives me that 10 to 15 minutes where I'm not in that obsessive inner dialogue around whatever challenges that I'm experiencing. And so as I mentioned before, all of this is neurophysiologically proven. Like, we're doing pattern breaks, you know, with our thinking, which means we're cutting off the neural networks that have become sort of diseased parts of our brain and over time we can prune those out. And each time we actually get reconnect spirit, we're building new parts of our brain that those parts give us even greater access to spirit, greater access to creativity, new ideas, solutions, inspiration, intuition, right? And that's the work. It's the work, right? The intermediary between us and our higher power is our brain. And so, you know, our work is to notice when our thinking is not aligned with, you know, a loving universe, abundance for ourselves, and health for ourselves, relation for ourselves, and growth for ourselves, and authentic vision for ourselves, and to have the tools in a community to reorient, to recalibrate, to rewire, to reestablish that connection with the power greater that comes through our brain, comes through our heart, and comes through our nervous. So lots of resources out there. Maybe you're somebody who needs, you know, already in recovery and you need to hit up a 12-step meeting. Maybe you're somebody who should be in recovery. Maybe you're somebody who wants to get into our community and how we've incorporated, you know, my work and or at least the work that I've received, I don't really, the work I've transmitted, and how we've put that into, you know, a phenomenal healing and personal growth structure through the whole human framework. You can check that out on DavidBear.com. From time to time, we open enrollment for the program where you can always email our team at support at DavidBear.com. So wherever you are right now, I know there's a solution and I know the solution is a reconnect with a power greater. So it really is that simple. And you have the resource inside of you to begin that process, start that process, show up at a meeting to make a phone call, to send an email, to phone a friend. Called a friend of mine who's an evangelical Christian the other day, strong in his faith, his God. And I was like, hey man, can we have a conversation? I just want to hear your word, why you believe so strongly in your God so I can build that belief in my higher power of my own. A little thing, right, that we build around us in order to spirit strength. And if you can become spiritually strong, you can have a powerful living. And if struggling in your life right now, it's the Ab Spirit. That's it. I love you so much. Thank you for being here with me today. See you on the