[00:00:00] Intro: I'm Shannon. And I'm Lisa, and you're listening to Blacktivities, A Celebration of all things black, black culture, black history, black perspectives, and black panache. Celebrating our blackness doesn't mean exclusion. Everybody's invited, but you gotta come in and have a seat. So let the Blacktivities begin.
[00:00:26] Lisa: Welcome to episode three of the Blacktivities Podcast. I'm Mona Lisa here with Shannon the Great. Today we are talking about the man, the myth, the legend, the Black Father. But before we get on with the show, stop what you're doing right now and share this episode with your friends. Speaking of Black Fathers, let me put a [00:01:00] spotlight on the owner of TK Wings in Dalton, Georgia.
Let me tell you something. It all depends on how you like your wings, but baby, I like mine fried hard, and he has so many different flavors that you can choose from. The owner name is Trey Washington. Okay. And he is amazing, an amazing black man, a great representation when it comes to. A black father that is showing something positive to his children.
He is great when it comes to, the community when it comes to stepping up. And he also assisted us with our raffle that we had as well. So, we, I just asked him one time and he was like, yeah, I got you. I got you. So shout out to Trey Washington, TK Wings in Dalton, Georgia. Hit him up on DoorDash or call in that order at (706) 529 - 4171. That's (706) 592-4171. Okay. Mm-hmm.
[00:01:57] Shannon: Get you
[00:01:58] Lisa: All right.
[00:01:59] Shannon: some [00:02:00] Wangs.
[00:02:00] Lisa: about they fire my favorite wings. I'm gonna just say this real quick that I get over there. I know it's a weird combination, but he got the teriyaki lemon pepper.
[00:02:09] Shannon: That's my two favorite flavors.
[00:02:11] Lisa: It's fire. Yeah. Yeah. And that, and at first, when I seen it,I was like, mm, I dunno, that may be too much going on.
[00:02:19] Shannon: But when I got it, baby, every time I go, I get like a mixture. sometimes I'll try the creamy, lemon pepper. But I have to say my favorite, my absolute favorite is the teriyaki lemon pepper. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm so damn greedy. But let we talk about black fathers, my bad. Well, we're talking about black dads today and black dads they get a bad rap. The most commonly used word that I would say I hear to describe Black fathers is absent.
[00:02:51] Lisa: Mm-hmm.
[00:02:52] Shannon: with that?
[00:02:53] Lisa: yes, yes I do. I do agree.
[00:02:55] Shannon: But is that really true though, or is it just another stereotype?
[00:02:59] Lisa: I'm [00:03:00] gonna be honest with you. It depends on the situation.
[00:03:02] Shannon: Okay.
[00:03:02] Lisa: Most of the black people I know grew up with their fathers, but I realize that I've lived a very bubblicious life in the suburbs. So,
Okay, there was a portion of my life where my dad was not there. But I am happy to say that it, it was a short time. it had a lot to do with some of the decisions and choices that I was making. And also too, dads can be pretty stern. Like when they say something, they mean it, and then they back off it and that's it.
So, I have a very great relationship with my dad. and I'm, I, I have to say I'm, I'm very blessed as well. So how about we just dive a little bit deeper with the SAC's facts and then we'll see.what else we got going on with it.
[00:03:53] Shannon: well this is SAC's facts, so I went straight to the hard [00:04:00] facts on this one. We always hear people talking about absent black fathers, where are the black fathers? Why aren't they in their children's lives? To answer that question, we gotta look at statistics cause I like to be thorough and have all my receipts. if you want the direct sources I used, you can check the show notes cause they are there. But there are some interesting statistics that I found by looking directly at a 2013 report by the CDC on the National Institutes of Health Research on Fathers and their involvement. This study was initiated by a memo issued by President Clinton in '95, and I wanted to share some of those stats with you real quick and make them understandable cuz statistics can be confusing. So for dads of kids age, zero to five. And keep in mind this data is from the early two thousands cuz they don't do these huge studies all the time. So [00:05:00] you're not gonna find a study each year. With all this information, but it said 33% of black men lived with their children versus 24% living apart from their kids.
So what this tells me is more black fathers live with their kids than apart from them. Also, Hispanic fathers were less likely to eat meals with their children every day, and that was 64%. than white fathers, which is 74% or. 78% for black fathers. So basically that's saying black fathers are more likely to eat meals with the children they live with than white or Hispanic dads.
[00:05:39] Lisa: Seriously,
[00:05:40] Shannon: Yep.
[00:05:41] Lisa: I don't think it would be in reverse because. Majority of the time because of, and I'm, I don't mean to throw white privilege out there, but they were able to be home with their children so they can eat. Versus fathers of color would have a crazy, hectic [00:06:00] schedule. Yeah,
[00:06:01] Shannon: they be working too and working outside the home.
[00:06:04] Lisa: Okay. Okay. I stand and corrected.
[00:06:06] Shannon: It's, it's the facts.
[00:06:09] Lisa: Okay.
Hispanic fathers, 58% aged 15 through 44 were significantly more likely to have not eaten a meal with their non co residential children compared with White fathers 35%, or black fathers 31%. So that's saying black fathers who co-parent and don't live with their kids are more likely to eat meals regularly with their kids than white or Hispanic fathers. And a higher percentage of Hispanic fathers aged 15 to 44, 52% had not played with their non co residential children in the last four weeks compared with. 30% of white fathers and 25% of black fathers. So there are more black fathers who co-parent that are playing with their kids, versus white or Hispanic fathers.
[00:06:59] Shannon: [00:07:00] And for black fathers with school aged kids, the data is even better. A higher percentage of Hispanic fathers aged 15 through 44. 52% had not played with their non-coresidential children in the last four weeks compared to 30% white and 25% black fathers, which mean Black fathers played with their co-parented kids more than white or Hispanic fathers, a larger percentage of Hispanic 82% and white 70% of fathers had not helped their non co residential children with homework.
At all in the last four weeks compared with Black fathers, which was at 56% and a larger percentage of black fathers, 41% had helped their co residential children with homework every day in the last four weeks compared with 29% Hispanic, 28% white fathers. So basically more black fathers are helping their co-parented and non co-parented kids with homework than white or Hispanic
[00:07:58] Lisa: I'm gonna go back and read, cuz [00:08:00] this is interesting cuz this is not what I expected, but go ahead.
[00:08:03] Shannon: Among Hispanic fathers who did not live with their children, 63% did not talk with their children at all in the last four weeks about things that happened during the children's day compared to 29% of white fathers and 21% of black fathers. So that's saying more co-parenting. Black fathers talk with their children about things that happened during their day, than white or Hispanic fathers.
So what does all this data say to me? It says, y'all need to put some respect on these black fathers names. They doing homework. They talking to their kids. They're playing with them even if they're not living with their kids. Black fathers as a whole are not absent in their kids lives. Now, where did this stereotype come from that says Black fathers are absent?
Well, I ran across a site that quoted a statistic from a population report in the US Census Bureau in 2012 that said [00:09:00] 57.6% of black children, 31.2% of Hispanic children, and 20.7% of white children are living absent their biological fathers. They had a whole chart on this site that basically showed that by far, More black children were living in mother only households than white or Hispanic children.
[00:09:20] Lisa: That number had risen from 1960 to 1990 with a big jump in 1980, but it started going down after that. So my thought was why, like what caused this rise? And then the jump, well over a 27 year period from 1974 to 2001. The number of black people incarcerated in a state or federal prison more than tripled. And just a side note, the number of whites more than doubled. And there are actually more white inmates than there are black, 57.4% versus [00:10:00] 38.5%. So don't let them tell you that black people are the problem cuz they're the criminals. Somebody actually said that to me. But it's when you factor in the population percentages that you find that the numbers are disproportionate when it comes to black people. There was also the War on drugs in 1971 where Richard Nixon declared drug abuse was public enemy number one. Hm,
[00:10:25] Shannon: then Reagan doubled down on that in 1981, which led to mass incarcerations for nonviolent drug offenses. The Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986, established mandatory minimums where five grams of crack versus 500 grams of Coke was an automatic five-year sentence.
[00:10:45] Lisa: Jesus.
And
[00:10:46] Shannon: that's during the crack epidemic that happened in our community. So I'm not saying this was the problem, but this might be a part of the problem. I mean, I'm just saying. Moral of the story [00:11:00] is black fathers keep fathering and that's SAC's Facts.
[00:11:05] Lisa: Well, I was shocked to hear some of those stats. I like how you angled it to where, okay. Put some respect on the Black Father's name. it was, I, I mean, I, I guess when it comes to the whole Black Father thing, it's like people automatically think that, oh, they trying to hold a black man down. And that's where that black man, because of so many obstacles, he doesn't have the same opportunities.
And also when it comes to black men, they get stressed like everybody else, but they don't get counseling.
[00:11:54] Shannon: Mm.
[00:11:54] Lisa: kind of result in them, instead of being looking crazy in front of the [00:12:00] family, they kind of just kind of just fade to the black. You know what I mean? So, I, I mean, I can guess, I can respect that.
I can respect that.
[00:12:09] Shannon: Well, our first discussion question is, is it a myth or a fact that most black people have an absent father?
[00:12:17] Lisa: Again, where I came from, I'm gonna be honest with you, the majority of the people, it was very rare to see two parents in a home. Where I came from, majority of the people in my family it was very rare to see a mother and a father still married and. Taking care of their children. Very rare.
[00:12:39] Shannon: But just because the dad is not in the home, does that mean that he's absent?
[00:12:46] Lisa: again, I can only and speak for what I know. some of them were absent and then there were some that popped up on special occasions. And then too, I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna be honest there. There were some [00:13:00] women that do play the part on how they conducted their lives, which kind of made it confusing for that black man to be there as well.
So we gotta be real. When it comes to Black Fathers, we wanna make sure that we're putting it all out there, okay? But in my family, it was very rare. All I saw growing up was majority strong black women making it happen no matter what. so again, I don't wanna say absent. It was just that, just due to the circumstances, they wasn't in that home helping with homework or calling them every day to see what their day was like.
[00:13:37] Shannon: Do you feel like that's still the case with the next generation, or do you feel like a lot of black fathers have stepped it up?
[00:13:46] Lisa: It's hard now because and I'm not saying it's just black fathers, but you gotta think they having babies everywhere. Like the trend is having multiple baby mamas, it's very rare that you [00:14:00] meet, a guy that only has children or a child with only one woman. So again, I wanna be fair,
[00:14:08] Shannon: Now, Nick Cannon has a whole host of kids...
I'm
[00:14:10] Lisa: not, we not even gonna talk about, not gonna talk about Nick Cannon.
[00:14:13] Shannon: Is he considered an absent father?
[00:14:15] Lisa: have you. Okay. I tried to do the research on this and when it comes to Nick Cannon, is there a specific reason as to why he wants to produce? Because I was thinking that he was sick at one point and Okay. He wanted make sure that his legacy lives on.
But at a certain point, like. How about you as a woman, Shannon, knowing that this man have children and he's still messing with these same women, unprotected sex? Would you be okay with being in that circle,
[00:14:47] Shannon: No, I'm good.
[00:14:50] Lisa: girl? Bye! Girl, he got stacks!
I missed my turn, sir?
[00:14:54] Shannon: them stacks gonna run out them, them stacks running thin.
[00:14:59] Lisa: [00:15:00] Nope. He, he, his first baby mama is Mariah Carey. Ain't that money ain't going nowhere with my turn. You coming over here this week or next week?
[00:15:09] Shannon: All right, Nick, your next baby mama.
[00:15:12] Lisa: No, I'm good. I got two in college. I'm good. So it's, it is just, I, I don't know. It, it's, it is tough. I, and again, it's, it is because, I have seen, the other side of the fence. I've seen it. And again, I don't want to bad mouthblack fathers because again, I have some great fathers in my family, that even though it didn't work out, they was still there.
So, it is, it is hard for me to say, but I'm gonna be good. That's my story. I'm sticking to it. Let's move on. So, when it comes to Black fathers, why do you think they deserve to be celebrated?
[00:15:52] Shannon: I think any father deserves to be celebrated, but I think we should celebrate Black Fathers more just [00:16:00] because they get such a bad rap.
[00:16:02] Lisa: Mm-hmm.
[00:16:03] Shannon: People of all races that have absent fathers, it's not just black fathers being absent from their kids' life, but it's been made to feel like it's just black fathers that are absent, and that's not the truth.
So that's why I think black fathers should be celebrated.
[00:16:23] Lisa: I agree with you on that, that they, they should be celebrated. but. I think again, it goes more or less of them not having the same opportunities as other ethnicities. So they need that boost. Especially if you do what you're supposed to be doing, baby, we got you. We got you. They need that boost and, and support.
But my thing is though, you gotta be doing something to get that support. Just cause you, you were, you somebody baby daddy and you black that we, that don't mean we talking to you. You gotta be about your business. I gotta make, make sure we say that
[00:16:59] Shannon: You [00:17:00] gotta be an actual dad.
[00:17:02] Lisa: right? Right.
[00:17:04] Shannon: What do you love most about black fathers or even your father?
[00:17:09] Lisa: I love the fact that my dad's getting to the point where he is talking about retirement. I love the fact that. Even though I was able to acknowledge, the growth in him, because everybody goes through growth. I love that he is there a phone call away. I love that I am able to call and talk to him even if I don't need anything, you know?
he is there. And also when it comes to my children, like my daughter, my middle daughter called him today just to ask him some information about a car. He was there to give her the facts. and on top of that being an example of stability because most people don't get to see that often. and it is a blessing that my children, and that's what [00:18:00] I want to do, is surround them around positive black men.
that, again, not everybody got it together, but still provide stability and know. When it comes time for them to pick, you know that man, that they want to be a part of their life, what's normal instead of toxic. Because unfortunately, a lot of people that grow up and they don't have that, they don't know.
They don't know what you deserve. So they accept anything and it comes with a whole heap, a lot of issues.
[00:18:32] Shannon: I would say my dad is always there to help. Anything I need, I call my dad
[00:18:38] Lisa: Right.
[00:18:39] Shannon: because I know that he has an answer or he's gonna find an answer or he knows somebody who knows somebody.
[00:18:45] Lisa: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah,
[00:18:48] Shannon: and I've seen. My dad be discriminated against. I've seen some of his struggle, but I feel like I've always been [00:19:00] somewhat a daddy's girl. So,
[00:19:02] Lisa: Mm-hmm. And again, let's, let's applaud Mr. Starling. Go ahead now. But I mean, for us, as you know, young ladies, we, we see that, and of course we gotta point out that there are some young ladies or women that don't, that didn't get that. You know, and that Black Fathers plays a major part, just not on, how about this?
All dads, we just wanna make sure all dads do play a major part. that's why I cringe whenever I hear women, give themselves a shout out on Father's Day. And again, it, it's the situation because maybe that father is absent, but still acknowledge that. There is some space, there's some type of teaching that only a man, and this is my opinion, that only a man can provide to that child, rather male or female.
Okay.[00:20:00] and, and if there is no one available, just make sure, even if it's the school or counselor, just somebody in the community that can be start early on, that can be there to kind of assist in, guide them.
[00:20:13] Shannon: And that's another thing that I like about my dad, cuz I feel like he's been a father to so many other people as well. in the community, people that played. Basketball for him,
[00:20:27] Lisa: students in his class. So he has stepped in to be that figure for a lot of other people,
Mm-hmm.
[00:20:36] Shannon: and admire that.
[00:20:37] Lisa: Okay. I, I also wanna say this too. when it come to my dad, I ain't even gonna lie, I do get some of my toxic from him after, after my divorce. I, I don't know, just the way I conducted myself, I'm gonna be honest like this, talking to my dad on a regular basis, and he had [00:21:00] me on this think, like a man type thing. And the way that. I don't know. I conducted myself, baby. The way my credit was was, you know, and, and I had lost weight.
And my dad was like, baby, no, you embrace this. This is your time to do you be you. And a dude came to me. I look at him and it just like, I wasn't intentionally talking to him crazy, but I was coming off as. That maybe they took it as if like I was being an itch or I was being stuck up. But more or less it was my dad in my head letting me know my worth and letting me know this is what confidence is.
Your mom and I have worked hard for you to be who you are, okay to have what you have. Don't let somebody come along and just try to talk you out of it or make you feel any less. So as I'm conducting myself, like, okay, I'm walking in this motion of this is what my dad has [00:22:00] taught me. This is who I am.
It did come off as pretty bad. You know what I'm saying to guys? Whereas I'm sitting here going back to my dad, like dad, like I'm trying to date, but I had a dude tell me that I was intimidating. He was like, he wasn't on your level, he just wasn't on your level.
[00:22:19] Shannon: Period.
[00:22:21] Lisa: I continued on. And that's one thing to have your dad trying to guide you when you're dating.
Oh my God. That is a different world.
[00:22:31] Shannon: They know every trick in the book.
[00:22:34] Lisa: yeah. Yeah. So if a dude trying something, I'm like, mm-hmm. Like, that ain't gonna work with me. You got, you have to come, come better than that boo boo. But, I have to say again, it's just a blessing. Just a blessing to have a dad, you know, that that is there and that my girls can call and just, you know, chop it up with old pop.
[00:22:57] Shannon: Well, we had, some other people [00:23:00] share. What they liked most about their fathers and why they felt like black fathers needed to be celebrated and here's what they had to say.
[00:23:13] Guest 1: we are here with, if you wanna say your name. Cedric. Cedric. Cedric it's very nice to meet you. My name is Lisa here. We have Shannon here with Blacktivities podcast. Okay. So are you a father? Yes. How many children? Two. Two? Okay. How old are they? 30 and 27. You wanna give 'em a little shout out right quick?
Uh, shout out to Addison and Abrielle. All right. All right. So what is your favorite memory of being a father? Oh, the birth. Watching my kids being birthed. Okay. I bet, yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's a soft moment right there. Yeah. Okay. And then if you don't mind sharing with us, why do you feel black fathers should be celebrated?
Well, the, we are all just divided. We got too much anger among each other. We need to stick together, take care of our [00:24:00] kids instead of being in jail. I like that. Yeah. Yes. We're we're dominating each other instead of sticking together. Yes. All right. Well, thank you. You're welcome. Appreciate it. Alright. Alright
[00:24:12] Guest 2: All right. So if you could, sir, if you could just go ahead and introduce yourself. Okay. My name is Freddy Moore. This is my wife Mary. Okay. Mary. Mary Liz. Okay. what is your favorite memory of your father? Well, He was a truck driver. Okay. And, um, at that time he was, when I was a kid growing up all my life, all, all my young life anyway.
And I wound up being a truck driver, but my daddy was, he was a good daddy. He liked to hunt, he liked to do everything. He always took care of us. You know, he was the head of the house and he was just always there for us. You know, it's something about having that figure there, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He was a, he was the structure in the family know.
Exactly. And that's perfect. Yeah, that's perfect. That's what we need. Now why do you feel black fathers should be [00:25:00] celebrated? Well, without 'em, I mean, that's what's wrong with today. Today a lot of families don't have any fathers, you know? Right. And I think they lost the structure then.
Exactly. And they don't have no structure, no way to live, no knowing how to live. Right. A woman wasn't made to raise, raise children by herself. Right. And the man wasn't either, you know, that's the way God planned it. That was his plan. And without a father to be that strong, that strong person, you know, in his life, you know, he depends on his mama for it.
You know, now they'll, go somewhere else and learn. Learn things he shouldn't learn, you know? Right. But with a father, he can, you know, kind of direct him in where to go, you know, keep him in line, you know? Right, right, right. But yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much. You're quite welcome.
My name's Kudzai Chikwava. Okay. Let know what you do. Come on. I'm a, I'm a dentist in Dalton, Georgia. All right. Yeah. So if you could share with us what [00:26:00] is your favorite memory of your father? I guess teaching me how to drive. That was a good time. Really? Yeah. He was the first person that showed me how to drive.
[00:26:09] Guest 3: Are you a good driver? I'm an excellent driver. It's normally that one that says they're an excellent driver, sketchy all. Yeah. Why do you feel black fathers should be celebrated? Because they work hard and they're not appreciated where they work and in society, and so I feel like when they are at home or around people that are.
Also black, that they should celebrate 'em and make them feel like they're actually achieving something and doing something awesome. Right. Thank you. Welcome. I appreciate it.
[00:26:49] Lisa: All right, so let's go ahead we're gonna move on to the Blacktivity.
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[00:27:02] Lisa: Obviously what we gonna do, first things first, rest in peace. Uncle Phil, we gonna say that. I did read something where it showed that of the black TV dads, he was ranked number one.
So I'm gonna throw some, dad names, the actual character, and ideally if you can tell me the actor that played them in the show, or I'll take either one, whichever one comes to mind first. We'll go from there. Okay. All right. All right, you ready? We're gonna start off simple. The first one. Oscar proud.
[00:27:40] Shannon: Oh, that's the proud family.
And
who played, was it Tommy Davison that played him.
[00:27:46] Lisa: Yes, ma'am. Okay. All right, so next we have Joe Carmichael.
Come on.
[00:27:56] Shannon: Joe
[00:27:57] Lisa: on. Mm-hmm. [00:28:00] You can do it. So,
[00:28:02] Shannon: I don't know that one.
[00:28:05] Lisa: That's the Carmichael Show. And that was David Allen Greer?
[00:28:09] Shannon: I don't even remember that show.
[00:28:10] Lisa: Mm-hmm. Yes. All right. Now next we have Michael Kyle.
[00:28:19] Shannon: oh, what's the name of that? It was, Damon Wayans right.
[00:28:24] Lisa: Yes. Yes. So that was,my wife and kids
[00:28:27] Shannon: yes, I love that show. It's funny,
[00:28:30] Lisa: Now this is my favorite, and I'm gonna tell you, my kids, they still watch this even though they've seen every episode. They love it. Okay. They said, I act like the mama, but it's neither here or there. I don't know. All right. Julius Rock?
[00:28:45] Shannon: Julius Rock.
[00:28:47] Lisa: Mm-hmm.
[00:28:48] Shannon: I don't think I know that one either.
[00:28:50] Lisa: Okay, so everybody hates Chris,
[00:28:53] Shannon: Okay. I only
watched a few episodes
[00:28:56] Lisa: Yeah. Okay girl, you need to go back and watch that honey. That's [00:29:00] binge watching. Yes, with Tishina Arnold. Honey girl. My favorite line is, girl, I don't need this. My man got three jobs and Terry Cruz played. Played
[00:29:12] Shannon: Julius.
Okay.
[00:29:14] Lisa: now this one may be a little bit harder.
Colonel Bradford Taylor.
[00:29:21] Shannon: Girl, I have no clue.
[00:29:23] Lisa: No. Okay, so a different, remember a different world.
[00:29:27] Shannon: Oh yeah, I was watching that today.
[00:29:29] Lisa: Yes.
[00:29:30] Shannon: I went back to episode
[00:29:31] Lisa: I know, my parents
[00:29:33] Shannon: one
[00:29:33] Lisa: my, parents love me. All right.
[00:29:35] Shannon: Whose daddy was that though?
[00:29:37] Lisa: What's her name? The real chocolate one?
[00:29:40] Shannon: Wasn't that her daddy? I
I don't remember
[00:29:44] Lisa: I can't think of her name. Was it Jul? No, it wasn't Julisa. We'll, we'll go back and research this, guys. It's my bad.
[00:29:53] Shannon: Okay.
[00:29:54] Lisa: All right. This is an easy one. Fred Sanford.
[00:29:57] Shannon: Sanford and Son.
[00:29:59] Lisa: Yes. [00:30:00] Red Fox. All right. How about this? So this show hilarious. John Pop Williams.
[00:30:06] Shannon: Pops, was that the Wayans Show
[00:30:09] Lisa: Yes. Wayans Brothers
[00:30:11] Shannon: and I forgot his name.
[00:30:13] Lisa: Mm-hmm. John Witherspoon
Bang, bang,
bang. You gotta coordinate. Coordinate,
[00:30:21] Shannon: That show was funny too. Actually.
[00:30:23] Lisa: Yes. Okay. Andre Johnson?
[00:30:28] Shannon: That's, uh, Blackish, right? And that was, Anthony,
[00:30:34] Lisa: Mm-hmm
[00:30:34] Shannon: Anthony Anderson. Yeah.
[00:30:37] Lisa: Okay, now the last one. You ready? This one hard. Calvin Butler.
[00:30:45] Shannon: I feel like I watched this show and I can't remember who Calvin was.
[00:30:54] Lisa: Give up.
[00:30:55] Shannon: Yeah, I give up.
[00:30:56] Lisa: All right. So Calvin Butler was, the show [00:31:00] was called The Neighborhood, and it was Cedric the Entertainer. It came out in 2018.
[00:31:04] Shannon: Oh, okay. I never watched that one.
[00:31:08] Lisa: Okay. Who was your favorite TV dad? Cuz I feel like, I feel like if I would've threw Carl Winslow and all that, that's too easy.
[00:31:19] Shannon: Yeah, I, Uncle Phil was a good one. Um, I mean, bill Cosby, I know he's canceled too, but The Cosby Show is classic.
[00:31:30] Lisa: It's hard. Heathcliff, but when you, that's another thing, the signs, like he was a gynecologist girl.
[00:31:37] Shannon: yeah. I know. But I also, I like Michael Kyle too. He's funny
[00:31:42] Lisa: Yes. Yes, definitely. Yes. Okay.
[00:31:48] Shannon: All right, well, looks like it's time for Lisa's pieces.
[00:31:57] Lisa: All right. [00:32:00] And I tell you, he pulled out the chair for me, the hand placed in the center of my back. Brought memories.
When Daddy shielded the sun from my face, and Mama showing me the way to season the skillet. Personal experiences that brought illicit intuition, eyes closed, and small prayers through any struggle. I remember a hand on my shoulder, a whisper my ear. The easy voice so soothing reminded me of my personal worth, the worth, greater than the doubt the world puts on my black.
Love. The worth of how we benefit from knowledge passed down from generation to generation. The worth Standing still supporting our sweet memories like pillars. See, we know with Daddy's hard work, it would've been impossible, but with the real deal, we know without mama's patience, nothing would have been [00:33:00] feasible.
May peace be with you at peace because love is learned at its own pace, and being a parent is far from overrated. Look at it. Each look into their eyes. See, deep down, look deeper in those deep brown eyes We call pupils made up of daddy's ambition and mama's confidence in God's grace.
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtain favor from the Lord. Amen. No man can disrupt your union when you have the recipe for the perfect foundation. Daddy and Mama?
[00:33:43] Shannon: Ooh, the visuals.
[00:33:46] Lisa: All right, so you are a father. Remember your presence makes a difference and your voice holds weight. Remember that You have to walk out that door and walk [00:34:00] right back in every word, selfie trip to the movies, playing catch, or even letting baby girl practice that lace front on your scalp. It means a lot.
It all matters. You are needed. Even if she say you aren't. Black Fathers matter. So how are you daddying today?
[00:34:24] Shannon: Absolutely Black Fathers Matter. Thanks for listening to this week's episode. Next week we're gonna be talking about our experiences. When white people mean well, and we're not knocking or making fun of white people, we love everybody. As a black person, you can understand that sometimes white people mean well by what they say or do, but they just kind of don't really get it in the South.
We say bless their hearts. So that's what we're talking about. Next episode. If you haven't already, [00:35:00] follow us on IG @Blacktivitiespod. We love to hear from you, dm us, comment on our post. Whatever you wanna do, as long as you're respectful. Until next week,
[00:35:14] Lisa: King and Queens keep doing big tings. Let's go.
[00:35:19] Shannon: peace.