Do you want to learn how to be more visible and authentic in your business?
Speaker:I'm joined by personal brand and visibility coach Fifi, Mason Fifi shares.
Speaker:How you can overcome self silencing.
Speaker:And avoid common visibility, mistakes, and this episode of architecture business
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Speaker:Now let's explore, being more visible.
Speaker:Fifi Mason is a personal brand and visibility coach and a mission and
Speaker:purpose is to help individuals with quieter voices show up authentically,
Speaker:amplify their impact and create the change they wish to see in the world.
Speaker:To connect with Fifi, visit FifiMason.
Speaker:com forward slash connect.
Speaker:Fifi, welcome to Architecture Business Club.
Speaker:Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker:Oh, it's great to have you here.
Speaker:My pleasure.
Speaker:Before we get stuck into our topic, we're going to talk about,
Speaker:we, we have a shared love of dogs for both dog owners, aren't we?
Speaker:So could you tell me a little bit about your Siberian Huskies, Kylo and Winter?
Speaker:Yes, I, aw, dogs, dogs, I could talk about them all day.
Speaker:I have two huskies, so Kylo is five and Winter is six, I
Speaker:think, because she's a rescue.
Speaker:So, um, we're not quite sure on her age, when I got her.
Speaker:But, um, yeah, they are my world.
Speaker:I absolutely adore huskies and a big part of My dream and what I'm working
Speaker:towards is having a Husky rescue one day.
Speaker:So, yeah, I could talk about dogs all day long.
Speaker:That sounds absolutely amazing.
Speaker:Definitely something to, to work towards.
Speaker:Our dog, um, Maisie, she's also a rescue as well.
Speaker:She was from Romania and we got her when she was about five months.
Speaker:So she's about, well, coming up for this spring, we think, um, she
Speaker:might even make a guest appearance during this interview, so we'll, uh.
Speaker:Hopefully not.
Speaker:Hopefully it should be quiet in the background, but we'll see how we go.
Speaker:Um, so today we are going to talk about how we can start showing up
Speaker:and being more visible in what we do.
Speaker:So I guess it'd be good, good place to start.
Speaker:We just to talk about what is visibility and why is it important,
Speaker:particularly for small business owners,
Speaker:Yeah, so visibility is it's really important because with without
Speaker:being seen, if we're not being seen, if we're not being heard, we.
Speaker:We aren't going to be able to reach the right people.
Speaker:We're not going to be able to, um, get in front of the people
Speaker:that we want to serve the most.
Speaker:So visibility is, is really showing up in your business as yourself.
Speaker:Being, being yourself and being visible, being, being seen online
Speaker:and, and even offline as well.
Speaker:Sometimes it can be going to networking events and, and that kind of thing.
Speaker:But predominantly what I help my clients with is, is showing up
Speaker:online and being visible online.
Speaker:And there is a, there is a challenge there for, for those who
Speaker:I work with the most, which is.
Speaker:Quiet introverts and they really, they find this quite a
Speaker:challenge, quite a struggle to be visible and be seen and show up.
Speaker:So it's just one of those things that when, if you're not being visible, if
Speaker:you're not being, being seen on social media, uh, you're going to just really
Speaker:struggle to reach the people that you Really want to work with and what I find
Speaker:is a lot of people tend to hide behind a logo or a business name and, and they,
Speaker:they have this kind of professional way of putting themselves out there,
Speaker:which means they're not being seen.
Speaker:So yeah, visibility is really important.
Speaker:Yeah, that is such a common thing.
Speaker:Well, particularly in the architecture industry, you've
Speaker:mentioned a couple of things there.
Speaker:Maybe we could sort of just rewind a step and talk a little bit more about that
Speaker:and perhaps sort of dive into some of those common mistakes that small business
Speaker:owners make when it comes to visibility.
Speaker:So you mentioned about often people will hide behind the business logo.
Speaker:That's something that you've seen a lot of, I imagine, working
Speaker:with some of your clients.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So the biggest mistakes that business owners are making.
Speaker:When it comes to visibility is what I said, hiding behind a logo and a
Speaker:business name, most, most predominantly that's when someone starts out, they,
Speaker:they feel like they have to have this really professional business,
Speaker:like way of approaching things and.
Speaker:That doesn't work necessarily because it means you miss out on, people miss
Speaker:out on understanding what makes you different, what makes you unique, and
Speaker:there's a lack of personality, there's, they're not seeing who you are, they're
Speaker:not seeing the true person behind the business, they're not able to connect
Speaker:with you, so if you're not showing up and, and, and you are hiding and
Speaker:you, um, Even though having a business name and, and a logo can be important,
Speaker:it's not the most important thing.
Speaker:And it's really thinking through how you want to be seen and how you want to be
Speaker:perceived and, and really figuring it out.
Speaker:The way that you want to show up to connect with the people
Speaker:that you want to help the most.
Speaker:So, yeah, the biggest mistake often is hiding behind a logo and a business
Speaker:name, not putting photographs of yourself anywhere, kind of hiding your
Speaker:face, um, and not being yourself, not being authentic and not having anything
Speaker:personal involved in your, in your brand.
Speaker:And the problem is that.
Speaker:You are your business, especially if it is just you.
Speaker:You're the one that is offering the service.
Speaker:You're the one who is the expert.
Speaker:If you're, if you're the one that works with everyone, you are your business.
Speaker:And if people aren't seeing that and all they're seeing is a
Speaker:name or a logo, it just makes it much more difficult for them to.
Speaker:I want to work with you because they don't know who you are.
Speaker:They don't, they don't know what you're all about and there's
Speaker:no way to differentiate you from other people out there.
Speaker:I think in essence, it sort of, it makes your presence, um, like a bit vanilla.
Speaker:That it sort of makes it hard to differentiate what is different
Speaker:about what you do versus what another service provider may offer.
Speaker:So yeah, and actually that thing that you mentioned there about the
Speaker:common thing of people hiding behind the logo, hiding behind the work.
Speaker:That is, I mean, that's exactly what I started doing.
Speaker:Now I started out my, you know, personal brand kind of came about by accident.
Speaker:So I fell into all of those.
Speaker:pitfalls that, that most of us do.
Speaker:Like, you know, I, I didn't work around any of those.
Speaker:I made all the same mistakes that, that most of us make.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:That, that's, that's really interesting.
Speaker:Something else I wanted to touch upon which we spoke a little bit about outside
Speaker:of the interviews is self silencing.
Speaker:What is self silencing and where does it hold us back?
Speaker:Particularly in relation to, to being visible.
Speaker:Yes, so this is one of my favorite topics to talk about and self silencing is really
Speaker:well at its core it's when we hold back from sharing our thoughts, our ideas,
Speaker:our opinions, and our perspectives all because we fear the perceived consequences
Speaker:and it's really a self imposed barrier that just prevents us from speaking out
Speaker:and sharing what we are with the world.
Speaker:It's also known as, uh, self censoring or self censorship as well.
Speaker:So if you've ever come across those terms, it's very similar, but it, it
Speaker:really is just that, that invisible force that stops us in our tracks and it.
Speaker:it makes us feel unsure and uncertain and maybe uncomfortable as we are
Speaker:putting ourselves out there and Really, how it shows up and how it feels is, is
Speaker:quite different for most, for everyone.
Speaker:There's, there's some common commonalities and common reasons why
Speaker:you might be holding yourself back.
Speaker:Uh, but it really is a personal thing.
Speaker:And, but for many and myself included, it was.
Speaker:It was just a mixture of fears, of doubts that were stopping me in my tracks, and
Speaker:there was a lot of worry, anxiety, and it was really affecting me professionally
Speaker:in how I was showing up and being visible in the early days of my, of my business
Speaker:when I was freelancing, and, and then it Later on, as things progressed, there was
Speaker:different ways in that I was holding back and I think it shows up in different ways
Speaker:for different people at different times.
Speaker:So it really is just hiding who you are, your own thoughts, your ideas
Speaker:and opinions, because you fear what.
Speaker:Might happen and often they are what I call perceived consequences because they
Speaker:are just things in our head that we think are going to happen and Realistically,
Speaker:what what is going to happen tends not to.
Speaker:So, how does it feel having been somebody that's had to work through a lot of
Speaker:those barriers of self silencing to now be somebody that is very visible online?
Speaker:How does that feel now having made that transition?
Speaker:Oh, that's such a great question.
Speaker:Um, I really, I think once you get to a point where You can let go of a lot
Speaker:of those fears, a lot of those worries.
Speaker:It just makes everything more enjoyable and more fun.
Speaker:And when you show up and you're, and you're, you're sharing things
Speaker:and you can see the impact it makes, you can see how other people are
Speaker:inspired by what you're putting out there and sharing with the world.
Speaker:That.
Speaker:Just that feeling is incredible.
Speaker:So yeah, I, I think once you are able to just let go and Really?
Speaker:I think I think it's a there's a there's a kind of part of that which is not just
Speaker:not caring anymore Not really having a care you're going to upset someone or
Speaker:anger them in a way, but still being empathetic and approaching things in a
Speaker:way that is is The, the right way of doing things, you're not going to go out there
Speaker:just to offend people, but what you're saying, what you're talking about isn't
Speaker:intentionally going to hurt anyone, um, or offend anyone or upset anyone, and
Speaker:the reason that you've been holding back is because you think that it might, even
Speaker:though it's not likely to, and when you do start to share those things and people
Speaker:can resonate with them and relate to them.
Speaker:It is just an incredible feeling and it's freeing.
Speaker:I think that's the way the word I would use to describe it.
Speaker:I can totally relate to this, Fifi.
Speaker:I have had put off doing something like this podcast and other ideas that I've
Speaker:had over the years for all of those, those reasons that you've mentioned.
Speaker:So yeah, I, I totally resonate with, with everything you've just said.
Speaker:And it does, it feels, does feel Very freeing, that's a great way to put it.
Speaker:But for many of us, it does feel still, still feels uncomfortable
Speaker:showing up in some cases, impossible.
Speaker:Particularly being in the spotlight, especially online,
Speaker:perhaps on social media.
Speaker:So what tips do you have to help us overcome self silencing
Speaker:and to authentically show up as the face of our own business?
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Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So for those who are struggling with this, I think the first step is really
Speaker:identifying what is holding you back.
Speaker:The reasons why you are not sharing the thoughts that you
Speaker:have, the ideas that you have.
Speaker:Say, say you got an eye, a really Interesting, unique perspective
Speaker:about something in your industry.
Speaker:And you're, you could put it out there.
Speaker:You could post, you could talk about it, but you're not, you're stopping
Speaker:yourself because you're worried that peers in your industry might think.
Speaker:It's a stupid idea, or you might get some backlash because it's, it's not the
Speaker:way that most people do it and anything like that, you're, you're holding back
Speaker:from sharing that, even though you feel like it is something important
Speaker:that you want to share and talk about.
Speaker:If you're in that position, it's really just identifying it.
Speaker:It's, it's figuring out what their.
Speaker:There is that is holding you back in that and and and knowing the reason so
Speaker:for for that one thread that example, the reason that I believe that you are
Speaker:holding back if that's something that you're struggling with is that you are.
Speaker:Worrying about the, the opinion, changing the opinion of those that you
Speaker:care about and it's not necessarily those, the strangers out in the world.
Speaker:It's not that it's, it's the people that you care about, maybe friends, family.
Speaker:Your, um, peers in your industry, people who you respect in some
Speaker:way, those people, you're worried that you're going to, they're going
Speaker:to change their opinion of you.
Speaker:They're going to think differently of you and really identifying the
Speaker:reason is, is the starting point and I have a really good quiz.
Speaker:to help with that.
Speaker:It's called the what is holding you back quiz.
Speaker:So it can help you to identify the real reason why you might be self silencing.
Speaker:But once you do have this understanding, once you've Really look deeper at
Speaker:why you're holding yourself back.
Speaker:That is when you can start taking those steps to work through
Speaker:it and work your way forwards.
Speaker:And so the next step after that is to, is to take smaller steps, to take steps
Speaker:that don't feel as big and as daunting.
Speaker:And And really start small, start making small progress
Speaker:as you start to share things.
Speaker:So, an example is To just share it with a close friend first and and
Speaker:be able to talk to them about it.
Speaker:And then the next step might be to talk to family members and other friends.
Speaker:And then the next step could be, you might post it on your personal
Speaker:Facebook because it's private and only your friends can see it.
Speaker:And then, and it's just taking those little steps to start to reveal
Speaker:and talk about these things more.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:Another thing I'd add here is, is finding your community, finding your audience and
Speaker:those people who are going to be receptive to those ideas and thoughts and opinions.
Speaker:So there's Facebook groups that you could do that in and, and that kind of
Speaker:thing, and creating your own groups, your own community of people that are
Speaker:really going to resonate with what you.
Speaker:And then if you're still struggling with that, there, the next step
Speaker:is to, is to start to reframe your thoughts and ideas, reframe the way
Speaker:you're thinking and looking at things.
Speaker:And I, I have a cool game that we can, I can share with, with
Speaker:you and the, and those listening it's called the what if game.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:It's a really, really simple reframing method.
Speaker:So what you would do is draw out two columns, and in the first column,
Speaker:you label it self, and in the second column, you label it service.
Speaker:And then in those moments of doubt, you might be thinking
Speaker:what I call what if questions.
Speaker:So it could be something like, what if I say something silly?
Speaker:What if someone gets annoyed?
Speaker:With me and say something nasty when you're thinking of those what if questions
Speaker:you would list them all down in the self column and then what you want to
Speaker:do is flip from that self perspective into the service perspective and think
Speaker:of what the benefit is of sharing those things or putting that thing out there
Speaker:from from a what if perspective as well.
Speaker:So it could be what if I make someone smile today.
Speaker:What if somebody needed to hear this to change their perspective and so you would
Speaker:list all of those in the service column.
Speaker:So when you're in those moments of really thinking and through the doubts and the
Speaker:worries and you're stuck in that mindset, you can flip yourself out of it into
Speaker:this service mindset where you're where you're thinking about showing up for those
Speaker:people that you want to serve the most.
Speaker:So that is.
Speaker:They are the three tips that I would give you to help move past self silencing.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:That's such a brilliant idea.
Speaker:Were there any other like suggestions or ideas that you had for posting on social
Speaker:media in particular, that seems to be quite a hang up for a lot of people.
Speaker:Are there any sort of suggestions for.
Speaker:How to go about being a little bit more visible when they're, you know,
Speaker:posting things on their, um, socials.
Speaker:Yes, definitely.
Speaker:Social media is one of the, especially for quiet or introverted types, I find that we
Speaker:are a lot less likely to want to put stuff out there and be seen and be visible.
Speaker:We, we, we keep to ourselves a lot more.
Speaker:So it can be a challenge and yes.
Speaker:So my advice on that, well, I can share three social post types to help
Speaker:kind of get you thinking about how you might put some more personal type
Speaker:content out there on social media.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:I'm not sure if you've talked about this on your show
Speaker:already, but it comes up a lot.
Speaker:So the no like and trust factor is something that when you start
Speaker:to learn more about marketing and that kind of thing, it comes up.
Speaker:It's quite a buzzword.
Speaker:It's a buzz phrase.
Speaker:And even though it is really overused in some instances, it is
Speaker:still something that is A really powerful kind of way of approaching
Speaker:things and, and it still stands.
Speaker:It still can help you to think of a way, think through a way of actually
Speaker:showing up on social media as well.
Speaker:So there's no like interest.
Speaker:Factor is really showing, showing people what they, well, helping
Speaker:people see, find you and know you and discover what you're all about.
Speaker:They start to like you and then trust you.
Speaker:So following those three steps as social media posts, you could.
Speaker:Put out content for the know, um, to, to help people get to know you.
Speaker:And so then that the sorts of posts that you might share for that could be like
Speaker:your unique approach or your perspective content that makes you different.
Speaker:Maybe it's frameworks.
Speaker:Maybe it's sharing your opinions, sharing things that, that are
Speaker:going to stand out because.
Speaker:They're, they're quite different in your approach, your own perspective.
Speaker:Then you have the like types of content, which could be personal
Speaker:stories, things that are sharing your values, and they're more personal,
Speaker:uh, personable as well, and, and really revealing more of yourself.
Speaker:It could be sharing photographs of yourself, it could be little Videos where
Speaker:you talk through your day and, and sharing snippets of your life a little bit.
Speaker:And they, they are the sorts of content that sorts of posts that people are going
Speaker:to start to really like you and, um, and, and really want to know more about you
Speaker:and, and learn more about you personally.
Speaker:And then you've got the trust types of posts and they.
Speaker:Could be testimonials and the social proof of what you're putting out there
Speaker:of your service and sharing the results and the outcomes that you provide.
Speaker:So it could be testimonials, client before and afters.
Speaker:It could be case studies, things like that.
Speaker:So the content that really shows.
Speaker:That you are making a difference if that you are actually helping people, you are
Speaker:providing the results that you're, that you actually want to help people with.
Speaker:So that is the know, like, and trust types of content and just following
Speaker:that and keeping it in mind as you create content can be really helpful.
Speaker:That's really helpful.
Speaker:There might be some listeners that are thinking, Oh God, like, you know, I don't
Speaker:want to have to like be posting loads of personal stories and pictures of me.
Speaker:And I guess we just have to caveat this and just remind them the point that you
Speaker:shared earlier in the conversation that.
Speaker:You can start with those baby steps, like you don't have to be like going
Speaker:out of the gate and you don't have to be posting photos of yourself and
Speaker:personal things you don't want to share.
Speaker:This can be a little sprinkling of personality amongst other things
Speaker:you might be talking about online.
Speaker:I think a common thing that a lot of architects and architectural practice
Speaker:owners do is the content they share tends to be very much about the.
Speaker:You know, photos of finished projects or, or visuals of
Speaker:the design they're working on.
Speaker:And it's very much like, Hey, look at what I've designed.
Speaker:Aren't I great?
Speaker:And it's all about the work and not really about them.
Speaker:But this is a really easy way, just with those three different post suggestions
Speaker:that they could sprinkle some of that into their content that they're putting out
Speaker:there, and it would really help to kind of level up the game to help them become
Speaker:more visible, as well as just letting people know about what great work they do.
Speaker:So I love that, some great suggestions.
Speaker:exactly.
Speaker:It is, it is like that is, um, it's, it's just finding the balance for you.
Speaker:And yes, so the no types of content might be the, the approach that
Speaker:you have or sharing the work that you've done, but then having those
Speaker:more personal like types of content.
Speaker:And then also the trust, which is really important.
Speaker:to show that you're actually getting the results for your clients.
Speaker:And, and so, yeah, so just having that spread out and, and scattered,
Speaker:and it's a good point that you make because sometimes you wonder,
Speaker:am I sharing too much of myself?
Speaker:Am I sharing, or it can be the
Speaker:The balance that you find there is what you feel comfortable with and, and really
Speaker:just to, to, to think through, think through that you're sharing and know that
Speaker:there's a purpose behind it rather than it just being something you put out there.
Speaker:So, say you have a story to, to tell, maybe, maybe something like
Speaker:you want to show that you, that you.
Speaker:On, you aren't always perfect and that's a great, it's a great way of showing that
Speaker:you're real, that you're, that you're human, but sharing a story where you've
Speaker:had, you've had, you've made a mistake, but you've learned a lesson and you've
Speaker:had an epiphany or a transformation and so you're not just putting something out
Speaker:there that's personal for just the sake of it, you're actually sharing a story of it.
Speaker:How you worked through something in your life and it made an impact
Speaker:on you, but it shows that you, you are human, but also that you've
Speaker:learned and grown from something.
Speaker:So it's really thinking through how you put out those stories
Speaker:and why you're putting out those stories in the first place as well.
Speaker:That's a brilliant suggestion.
Speaker:People love stories and, um.
Speaker:To share a story where you show a bit of vulnerability as well.
Speaker:That could be really powerful and really help you to connect with people.
Speaker:Fifi, this has been really helpful and really insightful.
Speaker:Really enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker:What's the main thing that you'd like everyone to take away from this today?
Speaker:The main thing is really that you can, even if you feel that you don't
Speaker:want to be seen and be visible, that you're, that you just can't do it.
Speaker:If you feel that it's.
Speaker:Impossible that just because you're shy or quiet or, um, more introverted that
Speaker:you, that you, that you can't do it.
Speaker:I want you to know that you can that that is the main thing
Speaker:I want to to end on today.
Speaker:That is possible as.
Speaker:As you grow in confidence, as you start to really put yourself out there in these
Speaker:small ways, gradually take these steps, understand what might be holding you
Speaker:back, understand the power of actually showing up and being visible, and that
Speaker:all the things that you really think might happen are not likely to happen.
Speaker:So, really Just having that hope that you can show up and be visible and feel
Speaker:comfortable doing so and have that sense of freedom that we talked about as well.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:Fifi, is there anything else you wanted to add that we haven't
Speaker:already covered in the conversation?
Speaker:No, I think we covered a lot and I don't want to overwhelm
Speaker:people with so much stuff.
Speaker:So yeah, it was a great conversation.
Speaker:I loved it.
Speaker:Oh, cool.
Speaker:Me too.
Speaker:There is another question that I'd like to ask.
Speaker:It's got nothing to do with the topic today.
Speaker:It's just something I like to ask the guests on the show.
Speaker:I love travel and discovering new places and the architectures.
Speaker:It's about place.
Speaker:So, um, could you tell me one of your favorite places
Speaker:and what you love about it?
Speaker:It doesn't matter if it's near or far, it can be absolutely anywhere.
Speaker:Does anywhere spring to mind?
Speaker:I, every year I go to the Peak District to, to just go on
Speaker:long walks, um, with my dogs.
Speaker:So that is one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker:So I think it's like Bakewell area, just love it.
Speaker:I don't, something just calls to me there.
Speaker:And I, every time, every year I have to go back and have my fix
Speaker:of trawling through all of the nature and on the hikes and things.
Speaker:So, um, yeah, I love, I love that place.
Speaker:Me too, and also indulging in a Bakewell tart or two perhaps while you're there.
Speaker:I don't, but it is very well known for that and yeah, my friends do.
Speaker:I certainly did last time I went there.
Speaker:That's been awesome.
Speaker:Thanks so much, Fifi.
Speaker:Could you please just remind everybody how they can, well, can you remind
Speaker:them how to connect with you and also where they can take your quiz?
Speaker:Yes, so you can connect with me on fifimason.
Speaker:com forward slash connect and the quiz is on there too.
Speaker:It's the what's holding you back quiz.
Speaker:That's brilliant.
Speaker:Thanks so much.
Speaker:Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker:Next time I'm joined by architectural technologist, Ian Chevelle,
Speaker:to discuss his unconventional career journey into architecture.
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