Welcome to Barbecue Nation with JT and.
Speaker BLeanne After Hours, the conversation that continued.
Speaker AAfter the show was done.
Speaker AHey, everybody, it's JT and this is a special version of Barbecue Nation.
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Speaker AHey, everybody.
Speaker AWelcome to after hours.
Speaker AI'm J.T.
Speaker Aalong with Leanne.
Speaker AWe've got Jed Laurette with us today from Jack Daniels, and we're all going to be getting together and having a picnic in about two weeks or something like that.
Speaker ASo we start out, Jed, with this.
Speaker AWe always start out with something easy.
Speaker AOkay, start.
Speaker AIf you could dine with and cook for a historical figure, who would it be and what would be on the menu?
Speaker BSo who would be the historical figure?
Speaker CIt could be someone.
Speaker CThat's an easy one.
Speaker BYou said that's an easy one.
Speaker CThat's what Jeff said.
Speaker CI think that's one of the hardest ones.
Speaker CI don't know why he prefaces the.
Speaker BAll right, so let me.
Speaker BLet me see who historical figure I.
Speaker BGod.
Speaker BCan we skip.
Speaker BCan I call.
Speaker AYes, yes.
Speaker CNo lifeline, but go ahead.
Speaker CWe'll skip it and you be thinking about it.
Speaker BOkay, Are y' all going to be dubbing these together?
Speaker BAre y' all going to make this seem like I knew the answer right off?
Speaker CAbsolutely not.
Speaker ANo, no, no, no, no.
Speaker AThis doesn't work that way, buddy.
Speaker AOkay, you were in the military, so what is the worst thing you've ever eaten?
Speaker BYeah, so I can.
Speaker BI can answer that one really quickly.
Speaker BDid multiple trips to Afghanistan, and one of the trips that I was on, we got locked down in our base compound, and all we had was MREs.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI'll be honest with you.
Speaker BI like the Mac and cheese.
Speaker BLike the beefy Mac and cheese with the MREs.
Speaker BI'm not a huge fan of anything that's just beef or just chicken.
Speaker BIt's not beef or chicken in those MREs.
Speaker AIt's a composite, isn't it?
Speaker BAlthough I like the beefy Mac and cheese.
Speaker BI like that.
Speaker BYeah, that one's Good, but yeah, MREs, Afghanistan, I never heard.
Speaker CI've never heard that about those.
Speaker CI didn't think that they would make them that horrible, but.
Speaker BOh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BLook, it's all about calorie intake.
Speaker BThat's the only thing that we're worried about.
Speaker BBut the flavor is.
Speaker BWe could do better.
Speaker ASo when you were over there, did you get into eating, like, tabouli or hummus or any of that?
Speaker AStuff.
Speaker BI. I love Middle Eastern food.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BBut I loved it beforehand.
Speaker BMy.
Speaker BMy wife and I and the whole family, it doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker BWe're very adventurous with food.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I've had.
Speaker BOh, shoot.
Speaker BAll Middle Eastern foods.
Speaker BSo Afghani, obviously.
Speaker BSaudi Arabian food, which is a little more Mediterranean since they're closer to the meta.
Speaker BYou know, the med.
Speaker BI like Turkish food, Israeli food.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BI like it all.
Speaker BMatter of fact, my wife made hummus at the house probably two days ago.
Speaker AI like hummus.
Speaker AI'm not a big fan of tabouli, but I like hummus.
Speaker ABut when we're.
Speaker AWhen we're not on the air and when I see you in person, I will tell you about the first dinner I had in Saudi Arabia and what it comprised of.
Speaker AVery interesting.
Speaker AThey don't waste any parts of the animal.
Speaker AI'll just put it that way.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWho is somebody that in your life that has really gotten your attention this last year?
Speaker ASomebody doesn't have to be somebody in the family.
Speaker ACan be somebody that did something special or really screwed up or whatever.
Speaker AWhatever your parameters are.
Speaker BDoes it have to be a person or can it be a group of people?
Speaker AIt can be a group.
Speaker AI don't care.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo I was asked to go up to Sturgis to do a.
Speaker BWe do what's called Operation Ride Home.
Speaker BAnd Operation Ride Home is Jack Daniels in the ymca.
Speaker BWe sponsor Junior Enlisted to get home safely.
Speaker BBecause some of them, like I was Junior Enlisted, we just didn't have any money to get back to the house.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BWhether it be Christmas, somebody's getting married, somebody's having a baby.
Speaker BSadly, somebody passed away, and you just don't have the money.
Speaker BSo we went out to Sturgis like we always do.
Speaker BWe helped raise money, but I got to be a part of a few auctions, and in three days, I saw half a million dollars get raised for Special Olympics, battered women and children.
Speaker BEMTs, first responders.
Speaker BThat group of people that I got to see out there, raise money for complete strangers was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker BAnd that happened just about a month and a half ago.
Speaker ACool.
Speaker BBeautiful.
Speaker AWould you recommend a career like yours, with everything you've done, you know, to somebody that's just kind of starting out?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BAbsolutely not.
Speaker BI don't think anybody should come from my job.
Speaker BOkay, you can just go do something else.
Speaker BNo, it's fun.
Speaker BLike, seriously, you have to be willing to.
Speaker BYou've got to be real with people.
Speaker BBecause I think ultimately, I think we can.
Speaker BWe can tell when somebody's fake or it's a put on, but be genuine.
Speaker BIf you're going to go to college for something like this, you've got to love people.
Speaker BYou've really got to care for people.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BYeah, absolutely.
Speaker BLet's do it.
Speaker AWhat was the absolute best day in your life so far?
Speaker BIn my life.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWell, obviously if my wife hears this, it definitely needs to be when I got married.
Speaker AGood man, Good man.
Speaker AGood man.
Speaker BHere recently.
Speaker BIt's very proud of my oldest daughter who just got married.
Speaker BBut yeah, probably.
Speaker BProbably when we had our kids and when I got married.
Speaker BSure, absolutely.
Speaker BBest.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo if you, Jed, could erase a mistake from history.
Speaker ADoesn't have to be your own.
Speaker ACan be history of the world.
Speaker ABut if you could erase a mistake from history, what would it be and why?
Speaker BHow about this?
Speaker BI would.
Speaker BI would erase no mistakes.
Speaker BAll right?
Speaker BAnd I know, you know, when you think about all the terrible things that have happened in the world, even within those terrible things, I think humanity, hopefully we've learned from those mistakes.
Speaker BWithout that mistake, we're bound to.
Speaker BTo do it anyways.
Speaker BAt least that's how I see it.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I would say that even within the torture angu sad moments in life, I think we've learned from it and hopefully we've grown from it because God knows I.
Speaker BIt's hard.
Speaker BIt's hard, but it is.
Speaker BWe've learned lessons from it.
Speaker BSo I don't.
Speaker BI don't know if I would.
Speaker BI know that sounds like an awful answer.
Speaker ANo, it actually makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker CIt does make sense.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou're good.
Speaker AYou're good.
Speaker AWhat's your absolute favorite non barbecue food or dish?
Speaker BMy wife made it last night.
Speaker BShepherd's pie.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BAll right, so we.
Speaker BWe use lamb.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BAnd we get Irish cheddar.
Speaker BIt's the whole thing.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's one of my favorites.
Speaker ACool.
Speaker BSweet.
Speaker BIt's probably.
Speaker BAll right, you know what?
Speaker BLet me take that back.
Speaker BIt's definitely that.
Speaker BBut growing up, I was one of three.
Speaker BWell, it was.
Speaker BI'm the middle child.
Speaker BNot that y' all can tell that I'm a kid.
Speaker BStart for attention.
Speaker BNobody loves me.
Speaker BAll right, got it.
Speaker AYou're my sister.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWe grew up really, really poor.
Speaker BAnd my favorite thing that my mom made was wiener spaghetti.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BIt is the cheapest hot dogs you can find.
Speaker BAnd she made her own tomato sauce.
Speaker BAnd I know it sounds disgustingly.
Speaker ADon't make you gonna make this the World Food Championships Leanne or what?
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BLeanne, I promise you, if.
Speaker BIf you had it, you would.
Speaker BYou would think twice.
Speaker BI'm not saying it's gourmet, but there's something intrinsically special about the dish because it was something that my mom made.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd, yeah, I would say that is my favorite fragrance.
Speaker BY' all are learning way too much about me.
Speaker ANo, this is.
Speaker CSo you said it's called what now?
Speaker BIt's just Wiener Spaghetti.
Speaker BIt's a wiener spaghetti.
Speaker CSo did she cut the hot dogs into little spaghetti or a little round?
Speaker BNo, no.
Speaker BSo it's regular, like spaghetti sauce with noodles.
Speaker BAnd she always.
Speaker BLook, we're.
Speaker BI'm Cajun by descent, so we're all from Louisiana, South Louisiana.
Speaker BAnd so it was always the trinity.
Speaker BWe always had peppers and onions.
Speaker BAnd it.
Speaker BThat was her base for everything.
Speaker BIt didn't matter what it was.
Speaker BI went to school smelling like onions.
Speaker BBecause mom was cooking supper at six o' clock in the morning.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BYeah, so she would cut the little hot dog, like the hot dog into little rounds and then she cook it in a sauce.
Speaker BAnd I know it sounds disgusting.
Speaker BI'm not trying to sell you, but it was.
Speaker BIt was good.
Speaker CYou know, it's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker CIt's not all that bad.
Speaker CI guess it's kind of like spaghetti and meatballs.
Speaker CBut you're swapping out the meatballs for that.
Speaker CI was thinking that she cut those hot dogs into little skinny spaghetti, and that was like the spaghetti itself.
Speaker CThat's why I was having trouble.
Speaker BIt's like.
Speaker BI mean, people smoke baloney all the time, right?
Speaker AOkay, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker AMoving on.
Speaker AWhat was the first thing you ever got in trouble for as a kid?
Speaker ADo you remember?
Speaker BI don't.
Speaker BI can tell you the one thing I know that I got in trouble for unprovoked.
Speaker BI knocked my little brother out with a pull queue.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDon't judge me, Leanne.
Speaker BAsk the question.
Speaker CYeah, I don't.
Speaker CIf I had known about the pool cue thing as far as my sister's related, see, so.
Speaker CBut I didn't know about it.
Speaker CI got my sister, dad.
Speaker ABut anyway, okay, yeah, Leanne's probably old enough.
Speaker AI'm not sure if you are, Jed, but Mattel used to make this fake little Winchester rifles and they had little spring loaded bullets.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo you can hopefully find them and put them back in the cartridge that was spring loaded and you could shoot them again.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThis is all an indoor activity.
Speaker ASo my bedroom was above, directly above my sister's.
Speaker AAnd it was an open Stairwell.
Speaker ASo I used to lay on the top of the stairwell one while she worked nights when she got out of high school.
Speaker AAnd I would lay up there and while she was trying to get to sleep, I would shoot her with my Mattel.
Speaker ABut then I only had three bullets, so I'd have to sneak, try to sneak down the stairs and find the damn bullets.
Speaker AAnd I could never find them and I'd get caught and I'd get in trouble anyway.
Speaker BSo how long would you lay in wait?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BDid you have a gilly suit?
Speaker BI mean.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AIt was an orange and brown carpet.
Speaker ASo with my hair, when I had red hair, it didn't blended right in, trust me.
Speaker ABut crawling down those stairs on your hand on your belly to try to be real quiet.
Speaker AAnd of course if I had friends staying over for the weekend, they'd start laughing and stuff and then I just got in trouble.
Speaker AAnyway, if.
Speaker AHere, let's do something fun here.
Speaker AIf you were declared supreme ruler of barbecue for a week, what would you decree?
Speaker BThat I get to judge a competition.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker BI've never judged.
Speaker BI've been begging Debbie around here to let me judge.
Speaker BIt's fine.
Speaker BDebbie, if you're listening, I just called you out.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker AI'll put a call.
Speaker AYou know What?
Speaker CFor your 10 year anniversary.
Speaker CI think she should do that for you.
Speaker BThat would be sweet of her.
Speaker CThat would be a very nice gift.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIf, if you were an animal, Jed, what animal would you be and why?
Speaker BWhat kind of animal would I be?
Speaker BI'd be a turtle.
Speaker BI'd be a turtle.
Speaker BTurtles, yeah.
Speaker BBecause that's what my grandfather nicknamed me when I was little because I would stick my head out of the play pen.
Speaker BHistine was coming.
Speaker BThat's the first thing that popped into my head.
Speaker BSo that's probably the most true.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhat is something that you know your spouse was right about was correct but you still think she's wrong?
Speaker BNothing.
Speaker BAbsolutely nothing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNothing at all.
Speaker AAh, okay.
Speaker BJust in case, just in case she's listening.
Speaker AYou're going to live a long and prosperous life there, Jed.
Speaker BI pray.
Speaker AI pray.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AWhat, what do you think is the hard, absolute hardest thing you ever did?
Speaker BWas the hardest thing ever did?
Speaker AWas it boot camp or was it.
Speaker BNo, boot camp was hard.
Speaker BI was already married.
Speaker BI already had a child.
Speaker BI was a little older when I went into the military.
Speaker BI was 21, about to turn 22.
Speaker BNot that that's old, but it normally it's like 18 when you get out of high school.
Speaker BBut it was.
Speaker BIt was leaving for my deployments to Afghanistan after I was out of the military.
Speaker BI had three years where I missed everybody's birthday, all the Christmases, all the anniversaries, and that.
Speaker BThat was the hardest part.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker CYou can't make up for it.
Speaker CIt's gone.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AWould you describe yourself as corn fed or grass fed?
Speaker BI'm a hybrid.
Speaker ABecause.
Speaker BOkay, maybe.
Speaker BMaybe I will start.
Speaker BI would start it, like, on grass, but I'm finished on grain.
Speaker AYeah, there you go.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat's actually the right answer.
Speaker ASo that's a good answer.
Speaker AWhat's the first thing you do when you get up in the morning?
Speaker BYou want the real answer?
Speaker CYep.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BSo I go in the living room and I put my glasses on because I'm 45 years old and apparently my eyes stop working, and I read my Bible for about 15 minutes, and I go and take a shower.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker CAwesome.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AI think Tina Cannon is the one that gave us the most.
Speaker CThe most correct.
Speaker AThe most.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker CPeople forget.
Speaker CI mean, most people get up and they go to the bathroom.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd she said, what do you mean, after I go pee?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BOh, there you go.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI've already gotten up four times in the middle of the night to do that.
Speaker AYeah, I get that deal, too.
Speaker AWhat's your favorite movie?
Speaker AAnd I always use this as an example.
Speaker AMine is Casablanca.
Speaker AOh, okay.
Speaker BSo it's kind of similar to that.
Speaker BMine really is.
Speaker BIt's the original Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory with Gene Wilder.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CSo funny you should say that.
Speaker CI think they have a.
Speaker CAt least according to my sister.
Speaker CShe's a food stylist, and she is doing IHOP purple pancakes and, like, a print shot.
Speaker CAnd they're.
Speaker CThey're doing a remake of Willy Wonka and something.
Speaker CI don't know what kind of movie it is, but I don't know if it's a reboot.
Speaker BI got it.
Speaker CIHOP is making, like, crazy food to celebrate this.
Speaker CSo you got.
Speaker CI don't know what it's about.
Speaker BAt least that movie.
Speaker BThey just need to let it be Gene Wilder.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHe killed it ever.
Speaker BBut it's very similar to Casablanca.
Speaker BI mean, when.
Speaker BWhen you said it, I thought Willy Wonka.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AYeah, I get that.
Speaker AWhat's one.
Speaker AWe only got a couple more here, Jed, and we won't keep you.
Speaker AWhat's one thing you miss about your time in, you know, school or college?
Speaker AMeaning when you're young.
Speaker BI guess.
Speaker BThe lack of responsibility.
Speaker BI enjoy, obviously, being my age and having kids that were my age.
Speaker BWhen I'm thinking about this.
Speaker BYeah, it was.
Speaker BIt was just fun.
Speaker BThere was nobody you're responsible for.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BJust.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CIt's less stress.
Speaker ALess.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLess stress is absolutely the word.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker AOkay, back to the question you passed on.
Speaker BOh, God.
Speaker AThe historical figure.
Speaker AWho would it be and what would be on the menu?
Speaker BLet's go with this is so hard.
Speaker BWhy in the world.
Speaker CIt can be a musician, it can be a politician, it can be any good.
Speaker BBecause when you said historical figure, I'm thinking like Abe Lincoln.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker CNo, you can.
Speaker CIt can be anyone in history.
Speaker BSo when you said musician, that was the one thing that.
Speaker BI don't have an answer for it.
Speaker BI just.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BGod.
Speaker AWhen we.
Speaker CWhen we come to see you at the Jack, we expect an answer.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI'm literally writing it down right now.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker COr you can listen to this and then I'll remind you.
Speaker AAll right, last question.
Speaker BIf you're on.
Speaker AIf you were on death row, what would your last meal be?
Speaker AAnd now it can't be shepherd's pie because you already used it.
Speaker AAll right?
Speaker BIt won't be shepherd's pie.
Speaker BIt would be pho.
Speaker BHave you had pho?
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CWhat?
Speaker BHold on, Leanne, you've never.
Speaker BWhat did you just say?
Speaker CHow do you spell it?
Speaker BIt's P, H, O. Yeah.
Speaker BOr is it.
Speaker AOh, no, it's P H. Okay.
Speaker COh, is it noodles?
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BI think it's, like, in broth.
Speaker AIt's Vietnamese.
Speaker CIs it like noodles and.
Speaker CAnd like, brothy kind of stuff?
Speaker BLook, it's so much more than that, Leanne.
Speaker BYeah, it's so much more than that.
Speaker BDo y' all have pho, jt?
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BAll right, then you're gonna.
Speaker BLook, you need to culture her and.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BLet me.
Speaker ALet me tell you something, Jed.
Speaker AI had my knee replaced last December, and I did it at kind of a semi private clinic.
Speaker AAnd when we got done, they said, I. I came to, and they're talking to me and all that, and, you know, how's it feeling?
Speaker AYour legs all wrapped up and stuff?
Speaker AThey said, well, before you go home, we got to make sure you eat something and, you know, you stand up and all that.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThey said we got a couple choices for lunch.
Speaker AAnd I thought it was going to be like, okay, lemon jello or cherry jello or something like that.
Speaker ANo, but it was faux.
Speaker AThey catered it.
Speaker ANo, they cater the lunches.
Speaker AThere.
Speaker ASo you come in, and they gave me the bowl of this, and they said, what do you want to drink?
Speaker AAnd again, I'm thinking like, oh, God, they've got apple juice or diet water or something.
Speaker AI said, I'd like a Pepsi.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker AAnd they brought it in there, and my wife is looking at me, and they.
Speaker AThey fed her, too.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker AAnd it's just like.
Speaker AIt's like, cool.
Speaker AI'll get the other one done because I'm hungry, you know?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo, Leanne, we're gonna have to make sure you get some.
Speaker CYeah, I don't think I'm gonna.
Speaker CDo they have it in Lynchburg?
Speaker CI don't think so.
Speaker BHold on.
Speaker BDid she.
Speaker BWas she about to say, I'm not gonna it?
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker CForever.
Speaker BForever.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker AWe have some.
Speaker AWe have some.
Speaker ASome Vietnamese and Thai restaurants around here that we can.
Speaker AWe'll set her up before she comes down to Tennessee.
Speaker AJed, thank you.
Speaker AYou've been a great sport.
Speaker AWe look forward to seeing you.
Speaker AAnd I'll send you the links later this week when the show's ready to go and you can share them and do all that.
Speaker AOkay, buddy?
Speaker BHey, and send me.
Speaker BSend me that book, the Black Barbecue.
Speaker AOh, yeah, I'll get you the title to that.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker CAre you talking about Black Smoke from Adrian Miller?
Speaker ANo, the other one, Joe.
Speaker AIt was in Joe's book.
Speaker COh, I don't know the title of that one offhand.
Speaker AYeah, it was like barbecue spelled out right.
Speaker CConfused because.
Speaker CYeah, okay.
Speaker AThe way the title was off to look at it.
Speaker CBut we'll get it for you.
Speaker AYeah, we'll make sure you figure out which one it is.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BWell, I'm glad I was a repeat offender.
Speaker AYou are welcome anytime on this show, buddy.
Speaker AAnytime.
Speaker CThank you so much.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AFor Jed and Leanne and myself, thank you for listening and sharing your time with us.
Speaker AWe will be back next week with another edition of After Hours.
Speaker AUntil then, remember our motto.
Speaker AAs we always say, turn it, don't burn it.
Speaker ATake care, everybody.