Janice Porter: Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's
episode of relationships rule. My guest this week is Chuck
Hogan. And Chuck comes to us from Texas, the the the big
state, we shall say everything's bigger in Texas, right? And
first of all, welcome to the show. Chuck.
Chuck Hogan: Thank you so much for having me on, Janice.
Janice Porter: My pleasure. Chuck is the managing partner, a
managing partner at your best light, and an organization
helping people to elevate finance, family fitness and
faith, to maximize their best life through mentors
strategizing community, and exclusive once in a lifetime
experience. His unique background of sales business and
relationship building gives him a rare perspective that enables
him to successfully guide entrepreneurs, CEOs and other
top executives to new heights. And that's a lot very formal and
whatever. So I want to just dig right in and say, Okay, so your
best life, which is your passion piece, I know, I can tell when
I've talked to you before. What exactly is it? Why do I want to
be part of it?
Chuck Hogan: It's a community. And one of the things that we
started finding Janice, and that in the world of self
development, self growth, for we want to call it self
exploration, that there's a couple presuppositions one,
people are looking for other like minded people. As a
challenge with this, though, we get into these spaces where the,
I'll say the draw initially, is that Ooh, did you see that too?
Oh, I heard that as well. Oh, we can grow and be billionaires
together. And it's like, okay, so there's this kind of premise
of that, in some way, shape, or form, you need to improve you
that you need to grow you and I go, Oh, level one relationship.
Hmm. All about you. And here's the challenge with that. We are
our own worst. Advocates. Like we don't advocate for self, we
actually wait for someone else to give us an external reference
of, hey, you know, you're amazing. Hey, I just like being
around you. You are really kind of nice person. It's like, oh,
well, thank you. And then Didn't you know that before? Like you,
weren't you always that person. And so we judge self about we're
waiting for a little frame in order for someone else. So your
best life was created out of a very simple time. COVID got it.
anything but simple. And I was like, well, actually not true.
COVID forced everyone to slow down to reevaluate what was
really important. You had listed a little thing called time that
was back on your side. Because you weren't commuting
unnecessarily. You weren't hanging out with a bunch of
people. It's like, I've got a lot more net time than I used to
have. And all of a sudden, Janice, friends of mine, and
cohorts and business partners, we started collaborating, we're
like, what do we miss? We miss people. Oh, but it's socially
responsible to go out and meet with other people. And I go, is
that really true? Because I'm around my kids all the time and
not an issue. And I'm around my spouse all the time. And it's
not an issue. And I said, so if you're around other like minded,
and this was the key difference, like hearted people. So Whoa,
whoa, whoa, what's that all about? And I said, Well, here's
the truth. A lot of communities people get together, and they'll
go, oh, teach me something. I'm a sponge. I just want to learn.
I go, huh? I've been part of a lot of I'll say shelf health
programs. Because the book goes right on the shelf, the binder,
the whole dissertation, they were an intensive three day. hit
Florida, the bit of the pedal to the metal and they were just
going on going it's like, okay, and what changed? Oh, I changed.
I shifted. I am a new person. It's I got
great. What do you change?
Well, my focus is different now, Chuck, so I'm planning I'm
planning the chain. Oh, so you didn't actually shift. But it's
an idea and ideology. It's a apotheosis. It's a theory. Well,
why BL said let's start with the theory. Let's get people
together. Because there are places on this planet we can
still travel to. Yes, you have to wear masks on a plane. So we
opened up year one
Janice Porter: during COVID. Yes. Scary.
Chuck Hogan: Okay. Good. You all are psychotic. And I go, Well,
no, there's a difference. See, we don't look to raise
standards, we look to have different standards. Why? In
order to raise a standard, you have to judge the standard that
you had before. And anytime you judge you lose access to those
resources. So now you're presupposing that something was
wrong. It wasn't good enough. And it's like, oh, this is the
advantage of being a neuro strategist because now you're
remembering how the brain works. You go. So we're going to create
a different strategy and a different standard. And the
standard was we're going to enjoy each other We're going to
collaborate. So our very first trip was to Costa Rica. We then
went to Mykonos, the Maldives ash curette. COVID. During
COVID, we went to Park City, Utah, we've gone to the Maldives
we have gone. I mean, I know you all are nuts. It's like, no,
actually, it's setting a different standard. We just got
back from Rwanda. And with John Gray and his beautiful wife,
Vicky, on a family trip, which we call her also relationship.
Why does this become important? We're not looking for
exceptional. This is the interesting part, we started
noticing that people are brilliant, beautiful, bright and
bold in and of themselves. And yet, when we start to look at
the modalities of a person, and we'll use our hand as an
example, if I'm working in faith, family, fitness and
finance, if I'm ailing in any one of these, they're all
tethered together. So a rising tide raises all ships, but an
anchor can sync all of them as well. And so we started to
realize that were a lot of firms were offering coaching or
strategist services. We shifted. We said you know what, we're
gonna bring in the best of the best people who are specialists
in relationship and business and not just talking it they
actually have built, you know, they're sent to millionaires and
DECA millionaires and, and they've been married. I've been
married for 37 years, you know, it's like, so is there an
example there? Yes. Three beautiful kids. Everyone's
healthy and happy. Oh, so you're, you're like the
Huxtables you're like the Brady Bunch. You're like I said, no,
there are some days were more like married with children. I'm
like Ted Bundy. Or Al Bundy. Excuse me, O'Neill and Al Bundy.
And I blended the same guy. Difference. Exactly. Yeah. But
to your point, your best life is a community. And It specializes
in faith, family, fitness, and finance. And we started to
notice that when people were suffering in business, it
normally wasn't due to the business, it was normally due to
something that was happening in their personal life and the
relationships. When people were suffering the relationships, it
was like, it wasn't just the relationship. It was health and
vitality or spirituality and faith. And it's like, okay, so
we brought in the best of the best and all these different
silos. And there's a lot of crosstalk. There's a lot of
cross chat, but you don't want to thank you for something. You
went on our website. And you said, it's so positive. Thank
you for that. Because the intent is, is that you're going to live
life. Some people are surviving it. Some people are thriving in
it. Yeah. Exactly. To live life to the fullest. And to say, I'm
gonna live my best life, whatever that looks like today.
Janice Porter: Okay. Okay. But but I would guess from looking
at the website that, you know, it says attention, dreamers,
doers, and achievers, how we help you design your best to
you. But it looks to me like, I have to have a lot of money to
be involved in this community. thing that I've felt. So
Chuck Hogan: this is this is one of the other tenants of the
company, we actually made this based on a membership that
actually helps cultivate your business first. And here's the
reason why we started I know people go Wait, what? So
literally, your your membership is for business, strategizing,
and in all the other modalities, but we literally dive deep in
your business to find out who you are, what you are good
services, operations, optimization, we look at cash
flow culture, we look at the certainty we look at the
modalities behind production, profitability, products,
delivery, marketing, and why we do this as we realize that when
people have capacity, it actually gives them more
possibilities. So money is not the outcome. It's the
opportunities that the tool Yeah, for sure. We've had a lot
of clients, Janice, who have been so relegated to being the
business operator, like they I can't get out of it can't get
out of it are often optics are to help them move more towards
ownership, where now they're getting more net time back,
right? Being able to scale. And also to start to propagate exit
strategies for a business or business is we've had several
members who have done that and they're like going, Oh, my gosh,
Janice Porter: know what I do. So you have people in the
organization who are business consultant, strategist,
whatever, like counsel, things like that, who guide and help
people in their businesses first
Chuck Hogan: and Yes, correct. So we have a top tier economist
and a former head of a national mortgage brokerage firm who was
so adept with money it's beyond ridiculous. His his calls on
what's happened economically have been beyond freakishly
good. I daresay great, but I don't want to jinx it. So I'll
knock on some wood here. Preston Brown, who is my other part? So
that's Dean and as Preston Brown is a entrepreneur grew up. Very,
I'll say humble beginnings. In his trailer park lifestyle as a
kid, but so much drive so much passion, so learned that he now
owns 19 companies, and he is well into being a center
millionaire owns several aircraft and McLaren. I mean,
he's living. He's very blessed, one of the most brilliant human
beings I know. And he questions everything, which I love, which
I love. He's that guy. It's the definitely that guy, and myself
as well. And then here was what the beautiful part, we actually
have members who decided to actually become strategists
within our organization. And because they have this calling,
they're like, oh, and I've made, you know, hundreds of millions
of dollars. And now it's time for me to give back. So they
actually started off as members. And now they've converted over
to being strategist within our organization as well. It what's
so brilliant about this is that they know the journey. But yet,
there's zero judgment in this is what I am so grateful, and
blessed to talk about is that you can be in a space where
people can co elevate and grow without measuring wallets, bank
accounts, lifestyles, happy that all but this looks very robust.
And I go, it's actually ridiculously affordable. For
seriously $2,500 A month someone can join and have their business
scrubbed, looked at get personal strategizing, and consulting.
And yet, not just in one facet of their life in all facets of
their life.
Janice Porter: And some people would, and I'm sure you've heard
this, but it when it feels like some people could say, oh, this
sounds like a cult.
Chuck Hogan: Right? And you know what? It bless you for saying
that? I came from one of those environments? Yes, yes. For many
years, and and with all due respect, the first four letters
in the world well in culture, because that's when you go, Oh,
we're cultivating a culture. And I go, Well, yes, the first four
letters are called. And so that's not by happenstance, the
other side of it is, is that I would say, I believe that most
people are looking and one of the top human needs that we have
both six human needs, essential needs essential air, water,
food, shelter, love and connection. Human beings need to
be connected. In fact, any pediatric nurse will tell you
that if a child is not loved within the first five minutes of
birth, then it's called failure to thrive syndrome, they will
literally expire, they will they will not, we have this essence
and need that spark. In the six human needs, we have a need for
I'll say certainty. So security, variety, or uncertainty,
significance, love and connection, growth and
contribution. And the last two being spiritual, the only really
metric that crossover to both in the needs is loving connection,
and is something that's so systemic to who we are. So why
do I go there? We decided that there were three tenants that
needed to be met, in order for y VL. To exist, one, that it
always had to be value add, it always needed to be able to
listen to his community and give the value that people needed,
not what people wanted. There's a huge difference. I agree. The
second part was is that we made it where if you were in
relationship, that your spouse could go on any of the trips
with you, it was not a Oh, you're gonna grow and then try
and go back home and try and explain to someone and I'm very
specific with my language, I'm saying going back home, because
that's what most people did is they would go and elevated and
then go back home and try and explain it to their spouse
through there.
Janice Porter: I've done it. I know it doesn't work.
Chuck Hogan: Like, this is so painful. And I actually had
someone call me out on this a couple weeks ago in the chat, I
have to disagree, brother. And I said, Okay, great. We'll call
him John said, John, if you want to flight training, intensive
flight training for four days, four days, you're ready to go
ahead and take your family out. Solo flying, no issue. You're
good to go. He goes, No, no, no, no. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa. But you just told me that you he goes, Well, I'm not
crazy. And I go, Well, is it not crazy to go ahead and take the
emotional values of your family, their outcomes, their goals,
their dreams and aspirations? And now you're trying to Guru
them when you're not done cooking? And he goes, Wow, he
goes that flight analogy and I go, you're still stuck on the
flight analogy. I said, Great. I said, so would you be able to
teach your wife to sit next to you, and now be the pilot as you
co pilot because you're so diverse. And you've gone through
every experience of turbulence and engine failure and you go
no, no, timeout, dude, you're scaring me and I go good.
Because here's the ticket. It's the journey. And when you get to
grow together, the family that strives together thrives
together, you're gonna be hearing the exact same
information when you get back to the room at night and you're
comparing notes. It's like, oh my gosh, we're co elevating.
We're growing. We're getting these distinctions by trusted
people.
Janice Porter: Mm hmm.
Chuck Hogan: It's like oh, so second. This is
Janice Porter: a little of a sigh. a turn. But I noticed on
your website that you had Jim quick as a speaker. Yes.
fascinates me. Oh, yeah. So I was just curious in your case,
Chuck Hogan: that when you brought his name up, Jim is
someone I absolutely adore. He is He epitomizes what it is to
meet physiological challenges and mental challenges, and yet
come away with easy, actionable information that can provide
insights and distinctions. And so all three of my children have
read his books, they have done his his homework assignments,
his home play, as we call it. And it's been brilliant. Jim,
is, I won't call him a friend, I will just say he's a dear
console to our community. And we're gonna have him back again.
In fact, he's, I believe I'm trying to get him scheduled for
the end of the year. What I love about him is that when you start
to understand the physiological manifestations as to how your
brain works, it's kind of like knowing how your car works. You
don't move a lever over here and go, Oh, I'm making a turn
signal, you're gonna Wait, isn't that on this side? And they go,
Oh, semantics, and I go, No, it's like, you pull this lever,
you get a different action. That's called the shift. You
know? That's the shifter. So why do I go there? To your point,
Jim is one of those folks, that is so real. And I can say this,
and it's a point of contention that I'm so proud of. We have
had events where our speakers are now members of our
community.
Janice Porter: Hmm, that doesn't happen very often. No, that says
a lot for sure.
Chuck Hogan: It does to us, and that there's that trust in that
integration. And they play full out just like everyone else. So
someone was asked me they go, oh, so if I'm a speaker at one
of your events, Chuck, How's it different? I said, Well, there's
a requirement, you get your your, you know, your speaker's
fee, and you and your entourage, we fly you out. First class, we
take care of you said, but we also have a demand that oh, that
sounds drastic. And I said, I hope so. And that is we need to
get to know you. So you are going to come to dinner with us.
You're going to come play with us, you're going to be partake
of the entire event. And you're going to be a participant when
you're not on stage. They're like, Shut the front door or
like no, come on and play with the rest of us. It has been so
beautiful Janice, to see these people who normally are held way
up on high, and they fly in, they fly out, they get in to get
out, you know, they do a gig. Yeah. And we're like, No, you're
here for an event. You're here for an experience.
Janice Porter: I love that. I love that. Because it you know,
it's funny, you just made me think of something that we put
these, the, I'll call it celebrity we put people on a
pedestal. They're just, they're just people, they, you know,
they maybe have lucked out, they'd been born under a lucky
star or they work damn hard to get where they where they are.
Or they have some you know, they just hit the market at the right
time, whatever it was. They're just people. And if if we treat
them that way, then I think they appreciate that. They used to
remember when my older daughter was a baby, my parents lived in
Beverly Hills. And we used to go down there just before
Christmas, and we wheeled stroller through the streets of
Beverly Hills. And we'd be looking for celebrities, you
know, just for fun, but I would never like you know, gawk at
them. Or, you know, I would smile and you know, sometimes it
feels like you know them because you come across someone that
that you know, from the screen or the television or whatever.
But when they when they stopped me because my little girl in my
stroller was so cute and said something to me. It was just
like, I wasn't going to say oh my god, you're so and so you
know, and I'm just act like normal. And you go out to eat.
And the next table was someone famous, you know, you just have
to deal with it. It bring everything down to a people
level. And so I love that that's what you were talking about, is
not keeping them on a pedestal and allowing everything to flow,
which is I think it's really it's really cool.
Chuck Hogan: Well, it brings us to the last point out of the
three points and that was there is no guru. There is no one
person who's more important than this community than anyone else
are revered. From our event planners to our see oh to my
business partners and co founders of why VL to every
member of the community. We put out polls and we ask where do
you want to go? What do you want to experience? Who would you
love to hear from and these are the aspirational people that we
elicit and really work to bring into the environment. But here's
the interesting part. Oftentimes we go Oh, could you get Oprah?
Oh, could you get to, you know, Jay Shetty or or Joe Rogan? Or
it's like, okay, why? Yeah. Why do they go? Oh, because their
insights, their distinctions, I go, okay, to your point,
celebrity. And we go, what if there were just a human being
who's worked really hard? Who has so many distinctions and in
fact, the sound bites that you're hearing from some of
those names they're taking from these people? Because they're
that elevated? I go, why would we get it straight from the
horse's mouth? And they're like, God, Oh, why wouldn't we are
like, well, there you go.
Janice Porter: So, um, so if if people join your community, then
it's not all about events, though. You do work with people
individually or with family. And then you do community events and
trips and things like that. So wants to go goes,
Chuck Hogan: right. So we actually have four trips a year.
We're getting back next week. Actually starting the 28th will
be in Santa Fe for our faith trip. And we have spent Alana
Newsom, who is an energy worker and faith leader, we have Dr.
Michael Beckwith, who's coming Reverend Beckwith Oh, yeah. So
he's actually our keynote speaker. And he'll be hanging
out with us and having fun and then one of my associates
Preston Brown, my entrepreneur, yeah. But he is so faith driven.
And and it's one of those modalities where you go, okay,
great. So once a quarter, every 90 days, you have an opportunity
to immerse yourself in different lessons, learnings,
environments, meals, outings, experiences. We just got back
from Rwanda, and we did a two day excursion two days out with
the mountain gorillas of Rwanda. And oh, I have after I'll send
you a video, Janice, it will
Janice Porter: is that where cuz we're talking about celebrity is
that where Elon has the thing the thing on on Entertainment
Tonight yesterday, that's why I thought of it. Their sanctuary
isn't it for Yeah,
Chuck Hogan: we were right there we went to her the sanctuary, we
checked it all out. And Diane Fauci and, and we went through
the entire expos a and it's what I will say is interest eight, it
was never something that was on my bucket list, it would have
been on my bucket list, so I could check it off. Because it
was, it was where I would have imagined when I was a little kid
growing up. As you know, I was born in Japan, my dad's in the
military, and my mom was a teacher in Japan, and coming
over to the states and going, Wow, you can be and live and
have every experience you've ever desired in life.
Janice Porter: It only requires one thing faith
Chuck Hogan: faith that you deserve it faith that the world
is your oyster, and if you choose to not no longer play
small, and trust yourself, and we all go through the three
levels of change, we fake it till we make it we face it till
we make it and then we fake it till we make it
Janice Porter: just stop there for a second and and let me ask
you, because I know that you you started out in the world of
personal development and that was that was a big part of of
your world, I think for a long time. And so with the big guru
and and you were on the stage with them and everything. And I
have to think back to you know, I've had experience with
personal development courses and the big stage and everybody
we're all wrong and exactly the stories you were telling me
about coming back and kind of D What do you call it when you
know when you have to you have to decompress and you know and
get come back to Earth and then all of a sudden you've it's not
as clear as it was when you were there and you know you put the
book on the shelf like you said that kind of thing. So but but
having been immersed in that for so many years, I think Which way
did you go did it did did all of that really get inside you to
make you get to where you are now and what you're offering
which is a better version of you think a better version a
different version, a new a new entity of personal development,
or do you get did you get what's the word? Kind of jaded by what
you saw with people?
Chuck Hogan: The answer's yes. Oh, let me explain. So part of
it is, is I was involved in environment for about 22 years
and a long time. It is a long time and my functionality within
that space was in servant leadership. So what do we mean
by that, as someone who goes up through the ranks, you're
literally a volunteer, that they will compensate by putting you
up in a hotel, giving you a stipend for food, and flying you
in. And but for that, you're on between 20 and 22 hours a day.
And so literally, you're putting in two full workdays. Let me
rephrase that. I don't know if everyone else did. I know what I
was doing.
Janice Porter: Staff, you were volunteer? That is correct. And
why I knew people who did that kind of thing. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
So
Chuck Hogan: then you get invited to become part of what I
will call their leadership team and their trainer body. And it's
all beautiful. I mean, the intention is great. The
challenge becomes when you start to realize that everything has a
discretionary value. So what do I mean by that? If I donate an
hour of my time, and this is where it gets a little sketchy
for people, Janice, most people don't know what they're worth an
hour. Even in their businesses, they have no clue, right? And so
but they do know this, if they left for two weeks and came back
like, oh, eBay, oh my gosh, oh, there's so much going on. Oh,
this is crazy. Oh, you know, I need a vacation from my
vacation. And why do I go there, I started realizing that the
currency that I was paying in was me. Skill set time
intention. I spent 22 years cultivating
Janice Porter: this dream. Well, being away,
Chuck Hogan: contributing and serving towards it. Yeah. But at
the same token, sharpening me because metal sharpens metal. So
when I started looking at it going skill sets were sharp and
improved. And there was a reason why they trust you in that
environment. Where it got sketchy was when I decided to no
longer dim my light when I actually started to listen and
be very clear that all the things that were being said from
stage, apply to everybody else, but not me. So the minute I
decided to stop playing small the minute I started to co
elevate myself, the minute I started to collaborate with
other people who were like minded and like hearted, my life
took a different trajectory. And I was asked, well, I will be
quite blunt about this. My status was revoked. And it was
like seeing
Janice Porter: Are you saying that, that in all the time that
you did all of that volunteers, servant leadership that you were
perhaps searching and feeling less than, in a way? Well,
Chuck Hogan: filling up on one level. So the world has anyone
who knows me knows I'm a love bug, like I love helping people
move through it grow through what they're going through. And
on the other side of that, so that's why the Lord the
universe, put me on this planet was to help people and I go,
okay, so does that mean that you have to be impoverished to do
it? Does that mean that you have to give up the rest of your
income stream in order to do this, right? The average person
that for a while, while I listen, I was living it because
I had a challenge. Bless you, I had a challenge. And the
challenge was, it was beautiful thing. I was flattered by it. I
was invited to about 13 events a year. And that was actually
running programs and helping in in some instance speaking on
stage and then opening up and you know, getting 15,000 people
stayed induced to, you know, be ready to for an event. And so it
was very flattering. But it wasn't about me it was about
being in service. And where it started to take a toll was I was
like, uh, my wife's not here. She's at home. My kids aren't
here. They're at home. Anyone who's ever met me knows I'm a
servant leader. But they also know I'm a family man first. And
so I started realizing that I was giving up more and more and
more and not living congruently here I am telling other people
that my family and I deserve the best of me and not what's left
of me. And what are they getting? What's left of me? It's
like, oh, oh, this is not congruent. Something, you know,
I got it. I have to take out the garbage. But I'm sorry, I lost
your volume for some reason.
Janice Porter: There you go. So as soon as the light bulb went
on for you, and things got it, it shifted and then everything
changed because you ended up having to leave and start things
differently for yourself and you went into I think executive
search at that time, right? Well, we
Chuck Hogan: did. So what happened was is that we actually
started EY BL first we actually, we did and what happened was his
my two partners in crime we got together. And they asked me this
very poignant question. They said, Who do you need to be? And
I was like, What do you mean? I am who I am they know who you
have aspirations. Are you fulfilled living at this level?
And I was like, well, it meets some of my needs, but not all of
my needs. And they go, Well, what would need to shift they
go, they'll, if you could dream and develop this, what would it
look like? And exactly what I described you with Ydl? Yeah,
just services, the environment, the people, the camaraderie, and
this was an important facet to that we cap it at 100 members.
Now that means that the member and then they can have their
spouse so roughly 200 People in this environment? Why is that
important? We started to see some other environments that had
oh my gosh, 700 1000 people? Well, number one, no one can put
on an event where you get to have that many people
consistently. Number two, it starts to become very cliquey.
The people with the most money are hate it they got it was that
the only thing I said no, that the you know, the fakers. So
they're making it they have a tendency to collaborate
together. And it said, I just said, so what we started looking
at was how do we instill a sense of community. And we said by
number one, everyone goes through an interview process, it
doesn't make a difference if you can afford the membership or
not. Number two, we're going to tell you, if it's worth it for
you. We have an initial call, we say, what do you need? How do
you need to feel most often? And we start to go down that road.
And then we started to see okay, well, we can see why this is
uncomfortable. We can see why the kids that you brought in the
business and generational you know, communication gaps, and
yada yada, yada and all of a sudden it's like, holy smokes.
And quite frankly, Janice, we've had people who've we've turned
away from the environment that they wanted to come in in
illicit solicit grandstand. And we're like going, this is not
the space for you.
Janice Porter: Yeah, view, is it global.
Chuck Hogan: It is global. We, we initially start off in
cottonelle. United States, and now we have members that are
overseas as well. And, and it's growing through word of mouth
referral, we have not marketed online, we have not put this out
and prognosticated to everyone. And there's a reason for that,
too. We actually believe that like attracts like, and that
when you're resonating a certain frequency, people come to you,
it has been amazing to see the people that have gone, you know,
that is so different. Because they've been involved with so
many different like my shoe you, you've called in so many
different environments. And there's a formula for all say,
creating codependency. Yeah, yeah, that's good point. Yeah.
And we have chosen to eliminate codependency and cultivate
community.
Janice Porter: So I'm going to shift again, because we have to
wrap up a little bit. But, but But it's interesting, and I find
what you're doing fascinating. And and I because I'm such a
person that loves people and relationships, I can see the
value of something like this. Is there a just out of curiosity?
Is there an age preference that seems to happen? No.
Chuck Hogan: Oh, is that that's been the crazy part. In fact, we
have a couple of different programs, we actually have a
weekly or a monthly program, which is called the seventh
degree, which is for aspirational business folks who
are just starting off in their businesses. And when you
remember why well you get everything. So that's that's one
thing. The other thing is we do a weekly speaker spotlight, we
just had one this morning, and we use those four pillars of
focal information to bring on different people to share
insights, distinctions and faith, family fitness and
finance. And those are attended as well by the community. For
us, it's about sharing information that can move
everyone forward. But
Janice Porter: it but it's not like some elder older people,
some younger people or in disease are a blended
Chuck Hogan: community. We have folks that have newborns we have
folks that have great grandkids. Okay. Okay. That's cool. That's
the brain trust, because you're getting distinctions now.
Janice Porter: Yeah. So I like to ask my my, my guests one
question. And we'll wrap up, maybe with one more little one
after that. And that is about my favorite word curiosity. So I
think I'm curious So it is kind of a cornerstone for me. And I'd
like to know two things. One, do you think it's innate? Or
learned? And part two, what are you most curious about these
days?
Chuck Hogan: Thank you. Good, brilliant question. By the way,
I believe that we all have an innate curiosity, that we, by
our very nature, have been given the grace and gift of having
these different modalities of kinesthetic, auditory, visual,
olfactory, and gustatory. And these are all to feed our
sensory experience. But as human beings that are driven by
emotions and feelings, everything that we do,
everything we experience is to elicit emotions. And so my focus
now is really understanding. And in point of fact, I don't ask
people how they're doing. When you play this back, you'll see
if we've even if it came up in this conversation, as people are
feeling. And the difference in the distinction in a word is
that when you ask someone how they're doing, you're gonna get
a cognitive response, right? Feeling, it's really going to
the core essence of who they are and where they're living at that
time. When I think one
Janice Porter: more piece to that would be, as well wait to
hear what they actually say and listen to their answer. To one
of the, and because often, you know, when someone asks that
question of you either question, how are you doing? Or how are
you feeling? And you actually answer them? They don't know
what to do with that. No, right. So there you go. Okay. And so
what are you curious about these days?
Chuck Hogan: You know, I am curious about it. I've been
asked to write a book on this. So we'll see if this actually
comes to fruition. Modern masculinity.
Janice Porter: Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, I can see that for
you.
Chuck Hogan: Feminine perspective. Yes. Oh, to ask
your father as an example, who his role models were as far as
masculine and masculinity. He might say Spencer, Tracy
Humphrey Bogart, you know, Rock Hudson, before he came out after
he came out. If I were to ask my father in his generation, he
might go Tom Selleck. Sylvester Stallone, you know, Rocky
Balboa? Who else? Are some of the athletes at the time to like
Janice Porter: Ross Garvey, Simpson? Oh, yeah.
Chuck Hogan: Those were the star Joe name at the time. My
generation is kind of a strange one. Because there's, I say when
you look at masculinity, like we grew up during the time of
action movies, and so you go John Claude Van Damme. Arnold
Schwarzenegger,
Janice Porter: Vin Diesel. Well, he has I guess he's worn out.
Yeah.
Chuck Hogan: Right. Or at the time because it was so
revolutionary, like Baywatch. So David Hasselhoff and you're like
God, like really as like a when it first came out, everyone was
glued to the television set. Especially when he was a night
writer. So why do I go there for my son? Millennials xennials.
Look at it from the standpoint of worthy causes. And they go
Oh, Ilan, Maya and Rannells. Yeah. The people that are
influencing and changing the world and taking mammoth action,
and it's like, and they're doing their forces for good. It's not
just the money that comes with it. And what they're seeing is
that with worthy causes, you can make a ton of money. You know,
who takes on the automotive industry? Well, Elon, and by the
way, NASA at the same time. Yeah. Okay.
Janice Porter: Yeah, he's an he's an enigma, though. Really?
He is.
Chuck Hogan: You really is. And? And that's where you go? Is he
insane? Or ingenious? Yeah, I know. I go. Probably a little.
Janice Porter: Yeah, exactly. A bit of both. Yeah. So lots of
fun, we could can carry on this conversation for a long time. So
I like that idea of that book. I think it's interesting. It's
funny, I thought you were gonna say that one of their role
models was somebody who had like, transitioned or something,
because that's happening now to all the time, right, you know,
so who knows? And, and there's some actually really interesting
role models there, too, you know, yeah. So we'll, we'll save
that for another time. So thank you. Thank you so much for being
on the show. Thank you for sharing about you and your
community. And I guess one last thought, What would you like to
leave with my audience as maybe it could be a business thought
or just, you know, philosophical thought for
Chuck Hogan: a prefer to go philosophical and that is, be a
little kinder to yourself today. In the pursuit of change and
self improvement, we oftentimes are finding fault so that way we
can move towards something that we Can Fix. And I'll just
propose, what if you're not broken? What if by you just
living in this beautiful space of who you are, and honoring
those around you and yourself, that you can grow, to where you
deserve the best of you, and so as your family and not what's
left to view it's something that changed my life about 20 years
ago. And I can tell you, that when it comes up, and I get Uber
busy, and we all do, slow down, just slow down, take a moment
and breathe. And ask yourself how you need to feel most often
today. And dedicate your time and your intention to that for
just that day and see how you feel at the end of the day.
Janice Porter: Nice. Thank you. Thank you, Chuck. Thank you for
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