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This is going to be

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a normal conversation

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of four people

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talking about periods.

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But is it normal

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Perfect.

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absolutely not normal.

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It particularly in the

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industry that we're

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in, but today we are

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going to normalize

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talking about periods.

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So our guest today

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is Jasmine and Logan

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from the Go company.

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Welcome guys.

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Thanks for joining us.

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Thanks

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Thanks for having us.

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is gonna be very

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uncomfortable.

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I'll

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No, no, it's not.

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as well Hamish.

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It's good.

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No, we're at, we're

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at, the whole idea when

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we originally spoke

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about this podcast was

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to put people that are

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experts in their role.

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And it's fair to say that

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I have no expertise in this

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role whatsoever at all.

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So

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we didn't either, honestly.

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Can you tell us

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about you two?

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I want, like, before we get

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into this, I want to know

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about you and why, why you

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ended up in this industry.

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And then I'll probably,

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the follow up question

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I'll have is like, how

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do you know each other?

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Well, I'm Jazz or

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Jasmine, and I've been

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an electrician for

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nine years now, so.

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Bye

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all over the trade.

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I've worked in domestic,

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civil and commercial.

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, started out in commercial

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so I quite was quite lucky

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with access to toilets

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and that sort of thing.

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But, , as I've sort of

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grown and gotten a bit

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older and problems are

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arising within being a

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female, , I've started

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to notice it's probably

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a, a, lot tougher working

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in domestic or in the

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civil line of work.

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, when I worked in civil

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electrical, we didn't

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have access to any kind

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of toilets or hygiene

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or anything like that.

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You're just working in

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the middle of paddocks.

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So there was a lot of

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going to the toilet behind

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the truck and sort of

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stopping on the side of

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the road along the way.

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And then, yeah, when you

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get your period, it's

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pretty shit actually to be

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in that sort of situation.

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But, the reason I sort of.

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Um, I have two female

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apprentices who work under

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me, and we were noticing

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a bit of an issue with

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them leaving work and

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having to have the boys

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take them to the nearest

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toilet or to shopping,

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anywhere where they

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could buy sanitary items.

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And so we sort of had

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a bit of a discussion

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on how we could improve

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that and make it better.

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So I guess it was more

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time efficient where they

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weren't leaving site.

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And that's where we

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came up with providing

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a pack within the

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vans in our company.

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so this was something that

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you actually essentially

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had gone through yourself.

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Identify, it took you

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to have an apprentice

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to identify the problem?

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Is that correct?

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so I've only had a

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female apprentice

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for three years now.

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And so that's what

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six years of working

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in the trade before I

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noticed it was an issue.

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And I think the same

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for Logan as well.

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She.

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Went through most of her

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trade without realising

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it, and then I'll let

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her speak for herself,

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I'm Logan and I work now

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in an industrial company,

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but I started my trade in

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the early In the domestic

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world, sort of being the

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first female on a lot

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of job sites, the first

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female at the company,

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they did three weeks work

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experience because they're

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a bit afraid to put me on.

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They didn't know how

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I was going to fit

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in and everything.

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And then when I moved

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across to the industrial

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company I'm with,

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because we got bought

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out same thing again,

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my boss pulled all the

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blokes in for a meeting.

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You guys need to

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pull your head in.

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You can't be swearing.

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Can't be doing this.

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I thought it was a bit

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unfair because it makes

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a stand out a fair bit

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more if you're trying to

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change a whole culture

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just for one person.

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And in the toilet

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sense , yeah, lack

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of access everywhere.

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Cause yeah, there

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are new builds where.

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the torts not even put

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in yet, and then you

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have to drive to the

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shop, or we did a lot

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of farm work when I was

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in the domestic world.

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And same thing, you'd

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have to be like, I'm going

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behind the car, don't look.

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And then yeah, being on an

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industrial site, like, We

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have access to portaloos

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but they're horrendous.

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They don't have toilet

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paper or they don't

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have water or they've

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never been cleaned or

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like that disgusting you

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can't even sit on them.

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And the other side of that

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is we are normally in the

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middle of nowhere ages away

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from shops so don't know

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we get a lot of emergencies

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and I don't have a regular

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period so I have surprises

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a lot probably a lot more

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than other girls which

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sucks and I found myself

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In a lot of situations

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where I've had to just

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bleed into my pants, which

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is really uncomfortable

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and embarrassing, but

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that was my situation.

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So I knew it was a problem,

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but because we're in the

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man's world, we feel like

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we have to just, Suck

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it up and get on with it

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and don't cause a scene

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and don't tell boys about

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this problem because how

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embarrassing, but yeah, now

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having apprentices under

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us and realizing, hang

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on, jazz and I can be the

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change that other women

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don't have to go through

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this awkward situation.

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Cause it's a big

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toll on your mental

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wellbeing and it's.

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It's one of those things

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that we have to carry a

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bit extra than men, and the

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other side of it, we're a

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novelty as it is, so, we

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get stopped in the street

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a lot more, we get talked

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to on job sites a lot

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more, and then we have to

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carry the emergency periods

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or the lack of access,

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and where am I going to

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go to the toilet for the

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day, and I find that I'm

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dehydrating myself on Most

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job sites because I'm too

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embarrassed to have to

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ask where the toilet is

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or Feel like I'm coming

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back in half now because

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I've got to walk down to

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the toilet because you

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just feel like a problem

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lost for words, a hard to

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comment on something that

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we just have no idea about.

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I can't relate

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whatsoever to that.

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And it's something that I

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sit here now going like,

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oh, fuck, like, I've

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never even thought about

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it to be honest with you.

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, you made a comment there

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where you said that you're

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a novelty on the project

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and I don't want to really

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get too much stuck into

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the conversation about

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females in the trade.

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But do you kind of get a

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little bit over the fact

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that you get referred to

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as a, say, a female tradie

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when white paint used

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to be called a tradie?

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Yeah, yeah 100 percent

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Especially the domestic

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world and jazz gets this

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now like as soon as you

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walk in the door They're

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like, oh you're a girl

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or it's a girl like and

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you're like, hang on.

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Yeah, you're a lady

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or something It's

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like oh, yeah Cool.

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Like, I don't know where

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to take this conversation

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now because you have to

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go through like 50 times

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a day because you're in

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and out of houses and it's

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like by the end of the

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day, like, oh my gosh.

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And I was an

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apprentice too.

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So, my tradesman was

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getting annoyed because

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they were trying to talk

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to me and he wants me to

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go get tools and run back

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and forth from the van

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and do the apprentice job.

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But you always try and give

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the customer experience.

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So I felt the need to

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sit there and chat.

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And yeah, it's a hard line.

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Logan, how long have you

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been in the trade for?

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six, seven years.

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Six or six or seven

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years and ja your,

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your nine years.

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Yeah, just past

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nine years now.

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Two weeks ago.

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And did you work together

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No, it's a pretty

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funny story.

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I I used to be like in

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a gym and everything and

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then I've noticed myself

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getting quite unfit.

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After joining

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Interdomestic, you

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sort of don't make

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time for yourself.

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And noticed, um, Logan,

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she was quite fit and I

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knew who she was, but we

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didn't know each other.

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And so I just out of the

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blue messaged her one

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day and said, Oh, would

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you ever be interested in

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going for a run with me?

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And we were like,

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yeah, we'll do it

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every Wednesday.

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And we never went for

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a run, but we ended up

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organizing a catch up To

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talk about the Go Company

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and about a month later,

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we made the business

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since we started

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the business and we

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only went for our

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first run last week.

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so jazz you're nine

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years, Logan, you're

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six to seven years,

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like I've been in the

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industry for 20 years now.

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Um,

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and we've had Alina

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working for us for two

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or three years now.

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And.

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I'm going to put my hand

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up the first few months

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that Helena was on board.

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I kept having to ask her to

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give me constant feedback

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about how I talk to her.

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And is that the

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right thing to say?

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Cause I was that person

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that says, Oh, my female

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apprentice, or, you know,

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we've got a girl working

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for us now and now, as

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of, I guess, Have educated

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myself and I guess talk

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to more women in the

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trade about how they want

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to be perceived and all

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of those kinds of things

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and just really trying to

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normalize it and actually

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not make a big fucking

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deal about it because

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how it actually shouldn't

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matter what gender you are.

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Are you a good person

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and do you do a good job?

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Really, that's what we

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should be looking at.

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And it shouldn't

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matter whether you're

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a male or a female.

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or anything

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else really?

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or anything else, whatever

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gender, that doesn't

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really matter, whatever

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gender, doesn't matter.

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But our industry is so

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tailored towards men.

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Because it's been so male

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dominated for so long,

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which is when I, listened

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back to the future builder

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stuff the other day, I was

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getting goosebumps thinking

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about the opportunities

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that we have, or that

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you have right now in the

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industry to make such a

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massive change, because

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hearing your stories

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before about feeling guilty

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about going to the toilet

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and feeling like you're

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putting an extra burden

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onto your employees about,

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Going to the bathroom

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because we don't have the

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correct facilities in here.

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Like I think barriers that

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you're going to remove

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by providing these really

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simple facilities for

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women on site, I think is

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going to open up the door

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for so many more people.

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And I think it's amazing.

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So firstly, congratulations

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to both of you to breaking

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through that door and

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actually doing a trade

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in the first place,

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but also realizing that

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this is a massive issue.

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Like you guys should be

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so proud of yourself.

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Yeah, we definitely are,

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Can you actually explain

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what the Go Company is?

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We haven't actually

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touched on that, on what

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actually the Go Company is.

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yeah, true actually.

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We're just

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We should talk about

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the guy company.

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well, the Go Company

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started, um, it's

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original name was

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actually the Blossom Box.

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and we are specializing

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in portable hygiene

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packs for women in trade.

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I wish it was still

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called the blossom box.

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Cause I fucking

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love that day.

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I am so glad it's not.

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The reason we changed

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the name was to make

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it a little bit more,

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um, male friendly for

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obviously discussion.

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So when men are talking

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about it, we didn't want

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them to feel uncomfortable

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and be like, Oh, go

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grab your blossom box.

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Go actually stands for

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girls only, but because

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we do plan on expanding

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and going to potentially

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male products and male

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packs because men are on

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site as well, we can't

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forget about the men.

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That's why we called

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it the go company.

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And we also probably want

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to have plans to expand

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the business, maybe do

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an electrical business

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off the go company.

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I don't know,

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go electrical.

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Um, You go, I'll watch.

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can you explain to us

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what is in this pack?

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So what is it

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and what

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problem is it

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Yeah, what does

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it look like?

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Tell us all about it.

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So I'll start with the

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Luxury Box, why Jaz

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goes and gets a bag.

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The Luxury

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that's a bag, that's

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a bag of the go bag,

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not something else.

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It

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Yeah, so the Luxury Box

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is a box that's got, it

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looks good to sit on a

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bench top and anyone can

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sit on display and it's.

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It's not uncomfortable

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for men to look at, and

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it's, it holds pads,

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tampons, intimate wipes

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to clean yourself with

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disposable bags so you can

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dispose of the products

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hand sanitizer, and,

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oh, having a metal blank

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Includes everything,

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essentially

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includes everything

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that you need as a female

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to make yourself feel

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comfortable on site if

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you have your period.

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yeah, yeah, exactly.

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And then our bag,

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the bag that Jazz

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is holding up there.

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So that's our portable can

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be thrown around anywhere

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is designed to go in

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car doors, under seats,

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wherever a first aid pack

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is found pretty much.

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And again, it has

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all your essential

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items that you need.

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So tampons, pads,

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torts, it covers.

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Wipes and hand sanitizer

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and liners in that one too.

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And the QR code at

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the top of it is so

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females can just scan

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the cards and ask for a

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refill of the products.

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So they don't have to

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talk to employers if

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they don't want to.

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They can just find us,

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message us, let us know and

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we'll send the packs out.

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for those, because it

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is a generally audio

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application is podcast.

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the go bag looks,

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imagine like, a small

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first aid kit that you

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might have in your car.

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It's about the same size,

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the size of a small handbag

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or maybe like a small book.

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if anyone's ever traveled

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before and they've got

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their toiletries bag,

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it kind of opens up like

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that and you can hang

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it on a hook and it's

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all nicely sorted and

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divided and placed inside

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for all your needs.

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Is that the best

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way to describe it?

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Perfect.

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And it was packed

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by Alison as well.

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Hand packed.

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and Logan.

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and

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Yes.

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products inside, are you,

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have you teamed up with

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like local supplies in a

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sense of like companies

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that produce them?

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Or have you gone out

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and created your own?

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Or do you want to

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talk about how you

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sourced all this stuff?

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Yeah.

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So we've tried to

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keep it Australia.

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products.

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We have yet to find

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an Australian brand

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where we can get the

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bags from, because we

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got these custom made.

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But everything else inside

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is Australian manufactured

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or purchased from.

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So we're pretty proud to

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be able to try and keep

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everything Australian.

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All of our products are

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reusable or recyclable.

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The only one that wasn't.

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recyclable yet is

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our hand sanitizer,

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but it is reusable.

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So eventually we'd like

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to go to a better product

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than plastic for that.

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But thing we're on

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Logan for the Tasmanian,

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keep it Tasmanian,

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yeah, so we're trying

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to get trademark with

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them as much as we can,

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but some of our products

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aren't yet Tasmanian.

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But yeah, we can

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share the logo from.

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It just has the

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Tasmanian backing on it.

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I don't know if people

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have seen that on the

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back of products that

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come from down here, but

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anything design in Tasmania

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or made in Tasmania can

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have that logo on it.

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So we're pretty proud

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to be able to put that

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on some of our products.

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have you investigated

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like a paint monitor

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or anything so no one

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copies what you're doing?

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Because when good things

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come, people do come

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and try to steal ideas.

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Yes.

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Yes,

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and it was an

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absolute nightmare.

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Yeah, so are you patent

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pending or you, you've

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applied for it or?

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we have applied for it.

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And yeah, in the

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pending station at

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the moment, because.

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Um, There's a few

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crossovers between

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different companies,

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like there's a go

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technology company.

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So our trademark people

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have reached out to them

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and trying to get a signed

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thing saying that we're

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not the same and we can

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have the trademark and

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some things we have been

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trademarked for, but that

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was such a long process

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and very costly and put

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us behind a fair bit.

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have you seen like a

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utility patent on the sense

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of like, like something for

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like a bag that holds these

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accessories the worksites?

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I think there was a, there

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was a little cross hair in

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that because we can't, we

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could potentially patent

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it for the exact layout

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that it is, but we can't

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patent the pattern of

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the pack because there's

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so many sanitary packs

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out there that we would,

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would be fighting for

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years against, I reckon

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and the manufacturing

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company who actually

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makes these bags it is a

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custom design, but it's

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tailored off another one.

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So that would be a

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long process, I reckon.

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I was to give any advice

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to you guys moving forward,

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I mean, I understand a

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patent is one thing and

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it's pretty like the

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concept I would say is,

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is, is pretty accessible.

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There's not massive

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boundaries for someone

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else to start doing this.

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I think what you should

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be doing is really

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focusing on your brand.

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Because if you focus

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on your brand and you

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want to make sure when

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people think about

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women's, packs on site.

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it needs to be

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the go brand.

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and I love the idea of like

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getting little stickers

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on the portal is saying

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go equipped or something,

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or this site's go friendly

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or whatever, like some

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kind of thing that feeds

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into your brand that

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people can recognize it

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and go, Oh, you're right.

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like, I'm empowered to go

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onto this website because

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it's supported by go.

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Like, those are the kind

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of things that I'd probably

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focus on now, like the

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patent is one thing, but

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it's one of those ironic

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things where, you know,

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Matt and I find people

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coming into our space all

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the time in building high

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performance homes, but

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isn't that what we want?

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And you're probably in

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the same kind of thing,

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like, isn't, don't we

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want to encourage more?

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Things like this in our

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industry to bring more

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women into our trade.

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So I think for you guys,

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it's all about focusing

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on that brand and just

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smashing the brand out

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and going on as many

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podcasts as you possibly

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can and knocking on

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every single fucking

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door until every worksite

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has a go pack on it.

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Yeah, yeah,

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our hardest battle right

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now is time because we

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are both still working

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full time for other

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employees and we work

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such weird hours that, um,

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Usually out of hours, the

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businesses aren't there.

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So at the moment we're

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simply relying on word of

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mouth and cold emailing.

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And we have, um, just

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recently come up with the

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idea to send our flyers

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to a heap of businesses

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in the mail because we're

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finding emailing isn't as.

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It's as strong as what

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it used to be but people

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still read mail, so if

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they get the flyer, it's

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in their hand, it's in

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their face, they've got

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no choice but to read it.

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It's not like a long letter

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where they have to read

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a heap of information

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about us, it's this is

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the product, this is what

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it's for, helping your

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women, kind of thing.

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It's a real smack in the

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face, I think, so hopefully

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that gets us somewhere,

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This is a shout out

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to any business owner

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that's listening to this.

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Episode that if you haven't

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already done so go and buy

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a go pack and if you're a

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higher company I'm going

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to challenge you to get in

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contact with the girls And

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get their flyers and put

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them in every single port a

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loo that goes at your gate

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With the option to provide

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a go pack on your site.

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just while you say

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the word on site

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there as well Hamish.

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Am I right saying this just

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isn't for construction?

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It can actually be for

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any business that has an

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office or office space.

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any, it could be, for

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example, at a school

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or it could be at a

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like an, even an event.

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Sports events.

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Yeah.

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Any, like

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we're,

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to be really

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honest with you.

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we have definitely

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got a target to cover

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all sorts of spaces.

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our main target originally

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was construction because we

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both work in construction.

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That's where we

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noticed the issue.

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But as we've sort

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of come along, we've

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noticed there's such

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a niche for this.

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There's sporting, there's

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off, like you said, office

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spaces, hotels festivals,

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workers.

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Yeah, frontline workers,

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mining, even the army,

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like we've had a few chats

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with people from the army,

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and there's a lot of women

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that are frontline now,

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because now, women can be

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riflemen, so they're out

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there in the trenches.

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it's not like as just

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as a construct, like

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only construction

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workers, if your female

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have this problem,

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like it's everywhere.

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And I'm assuming it's

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as I'm assuming, and I

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might be speaking out

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here a little bit, the

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sense of like, every

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female has already gone

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through this issue where

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they don't have a tampon

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or a pad, need one.

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sure, yeah.

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I think any female

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that says they haven't

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been in that sort of

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situation is lying.

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Yeah, or yeah, and I don't

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know, some people don't

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want to be vulnerable and

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some people don't want

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to in some cultures, it

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might be taboo to talk

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about it and things like

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that, or it's seen as a

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negative thing, but the

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reality is it happens.

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And that's another

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thing we offer, is we

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offer that conversation.

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I don't think we've

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mentioned it yet, but we

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have had a lot of men,

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business owners who don't

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even know how to have that

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conversation with their

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female apprentices or

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their female employees.

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And so that's another

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thing that we offer through

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our website or that we

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try and promote is we are

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happy to come and have

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that conversation with the

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female employees and then

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have that conversation

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back to the, to the boss

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or whoever it is that's

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got the, um, concern.

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It's not always up to

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the male to have to,

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to the female employee.

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Like confront their

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female employees.

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If they're uncomfortable

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to do it, we can be

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that middleman as well.

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So what's that

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conversation look like?

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Because I think it's a

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really good segue into how

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to have that conversation.

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I think that so many

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people, because there's

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one thing you can listen

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to this and you can go,

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oh, that's a problem.

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And I know I've got to

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do something about it.

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But there are people

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who are just awkward

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and go, Oh, I don't

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know what to do and I'm

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just going to leave it.

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. So how do we go

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about having that

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conversation, everyone?

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yeah, I think for the

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awkward people um messages

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like we can do it we

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can Send you through

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what we think would suit

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your workplace and then

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you don't even have to

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have the conversation.

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Just put the packs in the

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toilet and away you go.

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And organically, those

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conversations might

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open up and for people

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that do want to have the

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conversations to seek

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what their employees need.

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It doesn't have to be

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like, oh, do you need

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a period or whatever.

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It's be like, oh, hey,

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like we actually care

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about your wellbeing and

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anything we can do to make

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this workplace better.

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We want to, we've heard on

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this podcast that there's

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female hygiene packs.

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Would you guys be

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interested in having

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those in the toilets?

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And they're just going

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to say yes or no.

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And you don't even

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have to touch on it.

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conversation shouldn't

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be, um, like, would

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you be interested?

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Like, I just don't,

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like, I now think about

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this just from a common

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sense point of view.

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And it shouldn't just

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be like, yes, we act,

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hey guys, we need this.

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Where do we get

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Well, we personally think,

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and we've had a few females

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come against it, but really

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overall, if you look across

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the board everywhere on

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every single workplace,

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There is either one female

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who isn't speaking up and

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is having this issue, or

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there's a female who's

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having this issue and is

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trying so hard to speak up

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but just isn't being heard.

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So, we think that if you're

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a male employee and you're

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not listening to your

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females, and not getting

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these packs or even just

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something onto your sites.

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Or if you're a male

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and you're having that

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issue, getting across

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to the female and, like,

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getting them to talk

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about it, just do it.

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Just put it in there,

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whether you've had

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the conversation or

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whether or not you

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haven't and you don't

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really know what to do.

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If you just put it in

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there, you can't go wrong.

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They're not going to turn

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around and say, Why did

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you put that in there?

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Like, that's offensive.

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They're not going

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to say that.

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Because at the end of the

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day, they need it, whether

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they want it or not.

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so hypothetically, I just

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want to buy one right now.

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Do I just jump

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on the website?

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Is that as simple as it is?

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So we can give

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you the link.

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I don't know if you can

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post it in the comments

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or something on your

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podcast, but we can

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give you the direct

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link to the PAX website.

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what's your website?

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uh, the website's

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the gocompany.

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com.

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au.

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and Then there is just a

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little link that takes you

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to GoPax and then there's

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GoBags or Luxury Boxes.

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do you know what

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would be quite funny?

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I actually bought some

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the other day and I've

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actually just seen the

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postie arrive and I wonder

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if it's my four go packs

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arriving, um, on my front

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door, it'd be quite, uh,

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serendipitous, wouldn't it?

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Yeah.

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thank you.

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I went to a, I went

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to a private school.

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Thank you.

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He's actually had that word

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written down.

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He's been trying to

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work it in all podcast

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I'm like, how can

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I weave this in?

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keys?

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That's a good idea.

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that.

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I know I've been in

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Conversation for I felt

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really uncomfortable, and

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I think how I've approached

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it is, Hey, I feel really

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uncomfortable having this

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conversation, so please

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excuse me if I fumble my

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way through it, I even

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had the conversation

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with Helena this morning.

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I go, Hey, you know,

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I've just bought.

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These packs and this is

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what it's about and I'm

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usually quite confident

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speaker and communicator

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and even in that situation

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I felt quite uncomfortable

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and I would think that

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most women if you're

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demonstrating that you

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actually give a fuck and

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you're doing these kinds of

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things are probably going

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to be pretty accommodating

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yeah, we, we

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Yeah.

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And going back to

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that topic as well.

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It's not just for your

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workers, especially

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for the builders and

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that you've got clients

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that are showing up to

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your job sites as well.

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So you never know what's

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going on in someone's life.

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And they could have been

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rushing there to meet

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you guys and forgot her

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handbag or whatever.

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And cause she's stressed

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out, like, I don't know

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about other girls, but

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I find my period just

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comes like that sometimes.

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And yeah, if you have that

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in your tour, it's like,

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you've got gold stars from

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that client all around.

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I'm literally sitting here

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just being like, how has

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this not been a thing?

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In any, in any

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industry.

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Like, I'm actually just

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like,

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I,

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what is going on here?

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I had that moment the

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other day as I was

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rewatching, the Future

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Builder video, and I was

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like exactly the same.

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I go, how, what the fuck

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is this not a thing?

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almost felt like, a bit, I

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don't know, like, selfish

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in a way that it's just

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so fucking easy for us

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on the building site.

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We just rock up, we'll

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piss behind a

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tree if we need to,

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you don't think

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twice about it.

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think what you guys

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are doing is just so

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incredibly empowering,

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for you guys, because it,

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I think about this a lot.

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And again, I'll probably

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fumble my way through this.

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Like, I often think about,

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like, why should we be the

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ones that, are, you know,

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Making decisions.

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Yeah, like making

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the decisions.

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Like, why should the men

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be, Oh, well, I'm going

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to put this in and, you

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know, I'm going to be a bit

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virtue signaling in here

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and tell everyone about it.

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Like, it should just

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be a fucking thing.

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as a male, we can't,

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be like, have your

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period at home.

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Don't have it at work.

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You're not

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allowed to have it

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I wish you could.

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Yeah.

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That, that stays at home.

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Like, like that

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just doesn't happen.

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There's been days

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where I'm like,

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just not today.

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Just please not today.

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yeah,

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we're so, we're

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so busy on site.

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I mean, if you could just

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go and have that, you

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happens.

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Come back next

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we

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yeah, we, we want

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you can take.

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Not

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good.

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Yeah.

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you some advice here?

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I actually think that you

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should potentially go part

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time if your work allows

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you to, and I'd blow it.

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I think you can

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blow this up.

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I mean, you're

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really, really on it

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I think that While you

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have a head start on

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someone and someone is

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going to copy you, like

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you, it won't be, it is

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not going to be far off.

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You need to run and you run

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fucking fast and you need

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to do it in a way that you

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are going to make mistakes.

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You're going to launch

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shit that's not ready.

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Who cares?

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You'll work it out.

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whether that might

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be both of you take a

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day, go to four days.

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I think it

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requires your time.

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Or someone, maybe it's

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hiring someone to later

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keep doing electrical,

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but someone needs to go as

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quick as you can at full

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time to get it out there.

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Yeah,

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We need to

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hear it sometimes.

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yeah, we do.

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I, I agree.

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I even thought about at

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the beginning of this,

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um, this episode that,

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maybe we should do like a

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discount code or something

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like that, but I'm going

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to go against that.

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And I'm actually going

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to say every single

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person that's listening

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to this podcast,

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fuck your discount.

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It's only 45, 50 bucks.

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Invest in this

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company because it's

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something that we need.

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And if you're too much

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of a tired ass to spend

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that, well, you've

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got bigger issues.

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So

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We could make a price.

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everyone that's

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listening to this.

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Nah, nah, nah, nah,

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people can pay full price.

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Yeah, I actually think, I

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it

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it's too cheap.

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That's big.

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It is so cheap.

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bucks?

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I can't remember.

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Yeah.

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45 bucks.

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that is cheap.

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We have done our research

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and we are the cheapest

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for what's in our packs.

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And we did that

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because we do, not

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going to have a special

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mindful builder code that

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you get to pay 60 for every

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single one of these packs.

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you actually

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get to pay more.

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Shh.

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of knowing that you're

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investing in a company

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Shh.

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to see this go nationwide

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throughout the rest of

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the

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I didn't even think

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of that, Logan.

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Why didn't we come

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up with this sooner?

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Yeah.

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the social cause adds a

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little bit extra, I don't

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know, thing to it for me.

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I think it, I think all, I

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actually personally think

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any product out there

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should have a social cause.

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you just want to talk about

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what you've done with that?

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Yep.

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So we have three businesses

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that we offer as an

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option at the end of

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the checkout for people.

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So when they purchase any

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of our products, 10 percent

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of the profits can go to

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a cause of your choice.

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So we've got the Pink

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Elephant, McGrath

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Foundation, and what was

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the third one, Logan?

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Share the dignity,

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Share the Dignity, that's

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right.

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Yeah, So Share the

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Dignity's been our

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biggest one so far

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that we've noticed

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people were choosing.

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We've just supported the

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McGrath Foundation through

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the month of October.

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where we actually

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raised 2, 800.

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So we're pretty

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proud of that.

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Yep.

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So we had four businesses

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support us and matched

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our weekly donations.

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And yeah, we were very

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grateful for that.

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That's, um, just been huge.

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So yeah, we're trying our

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absolute hardest to make

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it where we're supporting

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other people as well.

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And pink elephant for

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anyone that doesn't

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know is child loss.

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And so moms.

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who are having to go

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through that as well

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as getting their period

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and stuff on site.

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I know, like, there's

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going to be mums that are

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on job sites or working

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out there that are just

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having to shut up and

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deal with the loss of

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their child and having

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to still go through that

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bloody painful time

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of, like, having to

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deal with menstruation.

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It's it's tough.

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So if we can offer the

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support of our PACs,

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but also offer the

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support to the charities.

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Yeah, we're really trying

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to make a difference.

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as someone who has gone

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through a pretty tragic

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experience myself with,

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um, lost twins at 20 weeks,

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so it's a pretty

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hard topic.

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So good idea.

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That's such a great

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such a great cause.

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Well done.

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Thank you.

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I'm really sorry you

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had to go through that.

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It's honestly, it's

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the hardest thing.

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Who's cutting onions?

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You got me.

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I've cried in this podcast,

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Yeah, it's a heavy

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topic and I'm glad

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you brought that up

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because to be honest,

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this is the point of.

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Like where we're coming

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from a movement of

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discussing these hard

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topics, because just

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because you've had

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the loss as well, men

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don't talk about it.

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It's the females that maybe

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talk about it in their

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little mother's groups.

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But I feel sorry and

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honestly for men, because

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When's the opportunity

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that you would have

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got to bring this up?

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Probably never.

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So I'm really honored

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that you've brought that

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up in this podcast and

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with us because this is

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what we're trying to do.

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We're trying to make the

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discussions open, honest,

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raw, so we can continue

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to work with our well

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beings at the forefront.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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A hundred percent.

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And look, I think I

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am happy to keep this

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in because I think

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it is important.

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As you said, we've

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all got shit to do.

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It's happened in our life.

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And, you know, we are, the

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sum of all our experiences

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and, you know, me, that's

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part of my story, right?

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I've got two beautiful

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sons, Darcy and Phoenix,

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and Phoenix is here

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now as a result of,

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that not being me.

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Something that

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came into fruition.

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So, that's an uncomfortable

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topic for me to talk

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about, even though I'm

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happy to talk about it.

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But also the things that

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female trades people

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have got to go through

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on site is another thing.

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And, you know, what you

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guys are doing with I

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guess making, as I said,

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empowering and making

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these things accessible and

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making it less of a barrier

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for more women to get

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into the trade is awesome.

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Yeah, we

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also have our tradie lady

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knockoff drinks, which

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is once a month to is our

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sort of small way of giving

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back to our local community

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of females in trade.

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So we invite any trade

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any year apprentice or

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qualified tradesmen to

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come just have a drink,

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unwind with us, have the

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bitch they need about the,

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their job site they're on

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or whatever's going on.

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Because we know how

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isolating it can be being

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on job sites by ourselves.

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So we're trying to make

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a community that women

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feel free to come to and

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have that chat or find a

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friend that also is going

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through something as well.

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this is just not over

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Tassie too, by the way.

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You could, like, Hamish and

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I, Victoria, both you girls

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are from Launceston, I'm

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going to take the guess.

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Yeah, I'm obsessing here.

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Cool.

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Hobart's better.

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But,

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I'm assuming you

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ship Australia wide.

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Have you had any

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people from that,

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like, international?

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Not international yet

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unfortunately, but we

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have had quite a few

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people from Victoria

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purchase our packs.

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I think it might have

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been after my podcast.

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I can't remember who it was

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with, but it was on that.

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And I think we got a few

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from that conversation

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because they were like, Oh,

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we heard you on the radio.

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Like, Oh,

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All right.

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So we have a few, we,

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I looked at the metrics

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other day, Hamish,

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and we have a few

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international listeners.

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I'm going to put the

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pressure on them to

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be the first people

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to buy the product.

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Bye.

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And send it overseas,

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Yeah, please.

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Yeah, they will probably

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have to email us.

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that that's even better.

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Cause then we know it

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comes from this podcast,

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but I'm going to put it

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on, say from some of these

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number of listeners in

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New Zealand, I'm putting

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the pressure on you or

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we'll delete you, we'll

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delete you from the podcast

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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block it out.

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Yeah,

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Yeah.

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A hundred percent.

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Hey, um, I can't see any

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reason why this company

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won't be successful.

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I know this is not Shark

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Tank or anything like

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that, but I, I can't see

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why this won't blow up.

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So, hey, all our listeners

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out there, please

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help us blow up the Go

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brand in a good way.

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Please.

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Yes, please.

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to get off the tools

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for a little while

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anyway, to have a baby

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hopefully next year.

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So that is my goal

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to get me off, to get

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me off the tools,

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So just anyone that

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wants to go back and

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circle back how do we get

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onto you for questions?

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Anyone that wants to

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ask you questions,

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what's the best way to

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get onto two of you?

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Yep.

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so

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we've got two ways

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to contact us.

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We have our website,

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there's a, um, information.

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form that you can fill out,

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which just sends directly

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to our email, or we do

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have our email, which is

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info at the go company.

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com.

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au.

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And then we've got

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our website, which I

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mentioned earlier, but

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I'll re mention it.

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It's the go company.

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com.

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au.

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Um, and you can also reach

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out to us on Instagram,

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or we've got TikTok,

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Facebook, and LinkedIn.

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We've got it all.

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You've got it all.

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And it's at girls

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only company on

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the Instagram.

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Yeah.

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Yeah,

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so it's only Instagram

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that has girls only, the

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rest is the Go company.

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We couldn't get it.

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Thanks for

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joining us today.

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Jazz and Logan.

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It's been great.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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girls.

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Thanks for

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having me.