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- There's a story inside every smoke shop,

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with every cigar and with every person.

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Come be a part of the cigar lifestyle at Boveda.

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This is "Box Press."

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Welcome to another episode of "Box Press."

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I'm your host, Rob Gagner.

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- And I'm your other host, Nate Beck.

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- Oh man, this week, this past week,

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I was outta town, Nate was outta town.

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- Yep.

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- I was in Nashville and New York for kind of some,

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I'll give you guys a little bit of a teaser.

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There's a lot of history in cigars in America,

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and as I keep digging, it gets deeper and deeper and deeper,

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as to how much we actually have created

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in this beautiful nation right here.

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I was on halfwheel earlier and smoking bans

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and all these things coming to light,

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and bans on flavored cigars and all that stuff,

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but, man, we made a lot of cigars back in the early 1900s

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and there's a ton of history about it.

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So, just-

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- Yeah, especially with New York City is one,

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Montana is one.

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- It kinda just like follows the railroad all the way out.

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- Pennsylvania, yeah.

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- Just amazing.

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And then too, in Nashville,

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I was actually able to see some of the farms

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where they grow the tobacco and meet some of the farmers,

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and it's not easy for them and it's a laborious project.

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I mean, like, a lot.

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And then the way that they fire cure some of the tobacco,

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unbelievable.

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It's a dying trade.

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- Did you get to smell any of that fire-cured stuff

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while they were doing it?

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- They weren't doing it

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because the plants haven't even gotten into the ground yet.

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But we went into the barns

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and you could smell the wood.

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But I thought as soon as I got into the barn

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it'd be like way overpowering,

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not at all.

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- Real subtle?

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- Real subtle, and almost it goes away as you're in it.

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It was a very unique experience.

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- That's awesome.

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- Very cool.

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Even how they fire cure it,

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they do it like two or three times

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and it takes like 12 to 24 hours,

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so they have to check it every three hours.

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And I'm like, "Holy cow, do you get any sleep?"

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It was just really cool.

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- It's like making good barbecue, it's so laborious.

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- It's the exact same thing.

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- Yeah.

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And you'd think that in both that there'd be this

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overwhelming blast of smoke but it's always more subtle

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in the best stuff like in barbecue,

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it's always kind of just enough to go,

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"Oh, that smoke is great."

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And then when it gets too much,

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"Oh, that doesn't taste very good."

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That's amazing.

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- It was very amazing.

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And like piles of sawdust.

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I didn't know they used sawdust and slabs,

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and they put the slabs underneath and the sawdust over it,

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and then they start these fires.

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It's amazing.

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- It's amazing the processes that we use

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to end up with a final ingredient

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that should be way more expensive than it is.

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When my wife and I were in...

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We have family in Nashville,

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and we decided to go tour a distillery.

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And the closest one if I'm not mistaken is Jack Daniel's.

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They literally will burn through,

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I think if we did the math correctly,

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like about, let's say for the sake of argument

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each stack of wood is somewhere between $3,000 and $5,000,

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just for the maple.

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And they stack it with all these

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kinda like a giant Jenga pile.

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Each piece of wood is like 2x2, something like that.

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And they put them under these giant open smokestacks,

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and they tip them together and then they light them on fire.

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And they have two or three guys

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that their only job is to manage that fire,

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so it burns down just perfectly with the right size chunks,

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so that Jack Daniel's whiskey can be filtered, each batch

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through 10 feet of that charcoal.

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That's their full-time job.

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- Wow.

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- Yet you go to a liquor store

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and what's a bottle of Jack Daniel's?

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I don't know, 25 bucks, 20 bucks, maybe?

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- Right.

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- Super cheap.

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And all that wood is only there

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to filter through as charcoal.

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And then some of it

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they filter through another like four or five feet.

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- Wow.

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- Isn't that crazy?

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- Unbelievable.

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- Like it mellows it out, it takes out the impurities.

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So it's like a charcoal filter you'd get in, I don't know,

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water bottles I'm sure have that,

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they'll have charcoal filters.

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It's just crazy.

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And then you'd think it would be so much more expensive

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and it's just not.

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It's unbelievable.

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- Very unique.

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And then you were in Texas this week.

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- I was in Texas.

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I was down in Dallas and Houston for eight days

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for the Casa de Montecristo Texas Cigar Festival.

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I believe in its original state

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it was an event put on by Serious Cigars,

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and that's now a Casa De Montecristo Lounge.

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So got to see a bunch of great vendors and cigar reps

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and interact with a bunch of cool people

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that were out there for the event.

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Of course, the entire week,

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the temperature was about mid-70s, no humidity.

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It was perfect.

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Saturday the event, 90 degrees and 90% humidity.

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- Weeeee.

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- Yippee.

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- Yeah, man, cooking.

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- The next day I walk outside of my hotel

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to get into my rental car,

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72 degrees, breezy and almost no humidity.

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- Oh, wow.

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- Like what in the world is going on?

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- They just knew you guys were having that event

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so like boom, let's turn it up a notch.

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- All of us we're in this giant tent

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and it had walls up because it was supposed to rain

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so it would have kept us all dry,

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but it never ended up raining.

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And so we're all like opening up the vents

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and trying to get airflow

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because we're just sweating like crazy.

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- Kept us wet.

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- That's right.

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- It kept us sweaty and wet.

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- It was a fermentation tent.

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- It's supposed to keep out water.

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Well, there's no water coming in.

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- Does this cigar have mold on it?

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No, that's just for me.

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- Just dripping sweat all over it.

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- Swampy.

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- Let's get into the cigars we have

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because this is another continuation of what we call

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Big Brother, Little Brother,

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or you could call it Little Sister, Big Sister,

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whatever you wanna call that.

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We're looking at cigars that are obviously

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of more budget friendly versus a higher end

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or in basically,

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how do I say this?

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It's a cheaper stick versus the more expensive one.

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I mean, I don't know how to say it any other way.

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- Less money, more money.

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- You're right.

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I mean, I'm not saying it's cheap

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because it doesn't taste good

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because clearly we've been on a couple of these that

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the less expensive cigars,

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absolutely just amazing, bonkers, like really good.

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- I think on our previous episode

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we found that the less expensive option

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was really almost just as good

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as the more expensive option.

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- Yeah.

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- So we're excited for you guys to see that one

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when it comes out on Friday.

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- It's been crazy.

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What a cool experience, I hope you guys are enjoying it.

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Leave some comments down below if there's any cigars

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that you wanna see.

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Particularly what we're looking for is we're trying

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to stick within the same manufacturer, right?

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What do they have that's a budget friendly stick

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and what do they have that's more celebratory?

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So here we have Altadis or other people know them as like

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Montecristo, H. Upmann, all that kind of stuff.

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But we are definitely doing the Montecristo,

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and the Henry Clay War Hawk.

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- I love that name, the War Hawk.

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- Yeah, it's very intense.

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Henry Clay, that cigar line.

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- You know what the cigar sounds like?

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It sounds like it should be a cigar

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made for like an SEC college football team.

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Like what is it, Auburn?

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Is it Auburn that has the "War Eagle?"

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- I don't know.

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- I think it's Auburn that has the "War Eagle."

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I always think of that when I smoked the cigar.

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Is it Auburn?

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Bingo, nailed it.

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- It says Tigers.

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- Yeah, but they have the like look up, college football.

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- "War Eagle," there it.

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Fly work.

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- I think isn't that their chant or something?

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Yeah, so the Auburn Tigers they have,

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I forget the reasoning behind it

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but one of their symbols is the "War Eagle."

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- Got it.

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- So I was thinking that when I smoked this cigar.

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And for anyone that is a fan of Lanceros or Lonsdales,

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this cigar comes in a Lonsdale size that is exclusive

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to a shop down in Houston that I just spent

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a considerable amount of time at,

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Stogies World Class Cigars.

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The owner, Jorge, is a huge fan of Lanceros.

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In fact, he's got an entire row of Lanceros.

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And it's one of his favorite cigars,

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he smokes several every day.

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It's fantastic.

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- Yeah, so the "War Eagle Battle Cry".

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You were right.

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It's not the mascot or anything like that.

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Most popular legend about the battle cry

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dates back to the first time Auburn met Georgia

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on the football field in 1892.

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- Holy cow.

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- And it centers on the spectator

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who was a Civil War veteran.

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All right, so-

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- There you go.

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- It's amazing.

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Even more history, 1892.

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- I call that my Cliff Clavin vault of useless information.

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- It's so true, so true.

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- I'm the ringer you want on a bar trivia team.

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- Oh my gosh, yes.

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- I usually do pretty okay.

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- Oh, I bet.

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Well, the War Hawk, the Henry Clay War Hawk

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and the Montecristo Classic,

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both come in with a Connecticut Shade.

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They're saying that the War Hawk

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is the Ecuadorian Connecticut.

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And the Montecristo just says, select Connecticut Shade.

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So I don't know what that means, as far as country

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of origin.

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- Maybe it's the bougier version of Connecticut Shade.

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- Must be.

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In the notes it says the highest grade

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Connecticut Shade wrapper combined

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with the finest Dominican binders.

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Here's what sets it off for me.

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The binder in the Henry Clay War Hawk is actually broadleaf,

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which gives you that punch.

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- Really?

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- Yes.

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And I was actually, I was like, oh wow, binder broadleaf?

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Didn't know that.

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But I see that's kinda where

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that strength of that flavor comes from.

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- I had this conversation just last week.

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A lot of the Altadis, General,

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a lot of the big producers that make a lot of these

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older core line cigars.

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Henry Clay, Montecristo, Romeo y Julieta,

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what would be some General core line cigars?

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- Partagas, Cohiba.

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- Bolivar.

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Some of those, they are really fantastic cigars

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so don't sleep on these.

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They're making some really good stuff.

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Very consistent, high quality.

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- Consistency is key.

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As I've continued to see factories

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or see the way people make cigars it's like

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unbelievable how they can try to keep consistency,

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it's just unbelievable.

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- Well, like this War Hawk.

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We talk about like you can get

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a little squeeze right down by the cherry

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because that's where the tobacco is the warmest.

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But it's firm construction, easy draw.

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You know how much I love, Rob, that clean cut at the top

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where it's just like glass

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and both cigars are just well-filled.

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- Yeah, looking at both of these I mean,

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neither one sticks out to be more veiny than the other.

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Both of them the color is great.

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Hats off to the team over at Altadis

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for just making consistently great cigars.

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The Montecristo, though, with that being said,

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I think is the milder of the two.

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It's Dominican.

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- It's a little more fragrant.

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Like it has a little more of that subtle

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baking spice almost on the aroma coming off the foot.

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- Yeah, for me it's a very mild easygoing cigar.

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If you heat it up too quickly or over smoke it,

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in my opinion, it would get too bitter.

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- Creamy.

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- Yeah.

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- Lots of cedar which is real common in Connecticut,

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that woody kind of earthy sort of flavor

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as we were getting into these cigars

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before we started our filming today.

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This War Hawk has a little more of that

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kind of peppery retrohale that I would call this like

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a white pepper kind of a real subtle spiciness to it.

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- There's strength there.

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- Yep, and the Montecristo doesn't have that.

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It's much softer retrohale.

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I'm wondering if that's due in large part to the broad leaf

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because that can add a lot of some punch.

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- Yeah, unbelievable.

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The Henry Clay rose to

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Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives

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in the early 1800s.

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And was known above all as a staunch U.S. Nationalist.

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Clay believed strongly that the military force

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was the only opinion left to fight British imperiousness.

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- Basically that's like elitist.

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Imposing their will on.

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I think if that's right imposing their will on people.

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Let's look up imperious.

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- Imperiousness.

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- Let's consult the Google.

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- Okay. The term War Hawk was coined

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and now used in political circles to describe

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one who favors war as an ultimate resolution of conflict.

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The Henry Clay War Hawk is a dedication to Henry Clay's

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lasting influence.

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The War Hawk cigar is aptly named,

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because it's a bit rebellious and strong.

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- So here is imperious,

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assuming power or authority without justification,

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arrogant and domineering.

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- There you go.

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- There you go.

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Did you say he was the Speaker of the House

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or of the U.S. House of Representatives?

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- Yeah, it says Henry Clay rose to

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speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives.

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- Anytime I think about like a political speaker

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all I can envision in my brain is

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the scene from "Kindergarten Cop"

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when they're all reciting the Gettysburg Address.

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- Fourscore and seven years ago.

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- Fourscore and seven years ago.

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- That's the extent of my political know how.

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- We could go down the rabbit hole of some

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"Kindergarten Cop" quotes but they may not be

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camera friendly for this format.

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But you all know what I'm talking about.

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- Arnold, good old Arnold.

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- Take a toy and sit on the carpet.

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- I'm a police man, not a princess.

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- Take a toy and sit on the carpet.

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- I'm a princess.

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- Sit on the carpet.

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- Okay.

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(both laughing)

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Oh boy, good movies.

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- I love that movie.

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And all of you know which lines from that movie

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I'm talking about if you've seen the movie.

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I will hold back even though it's killing me to not-

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- Not say them.

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Sensor on.

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- Keeping it inside.

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- So as we're kind of getting into these,

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which one are you kind of favoring right now?

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- Having smoked both of these before

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or on more than one occasion,

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I'm a big fan of this Henry Clay War Hawk.

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- Me too.

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There's something about it that just

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the flavor kind of hits more.

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- It's got complexity,

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it's got this nice spice on the retrohale,

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which I really dig.

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It's creamy.

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Has a nice kind of that woody cedary component

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that we were talking about earlier.

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- I'm trying to look up the MSRP on these.

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- I would actually really enjoy this

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as a first cigar of the day, the War Hawk.

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But this Montecristo Classic series,

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I would love this cigar after a really nice

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like farm-to-table dinner.

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Like I struggle sometimes Rob

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because you and I really enjoy restaurants

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that cater to or specialize in,

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I guess you could call it New American farm-to-table.

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Basically restaurants that do really elegant

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or chefed up treatments of not only proteins,

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but also vegetables.

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And I think some of the coolest things I've eaten

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in the last five years have been vegetable dishes.

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They're just really special.

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There's a local restaurant here in the Twin Cities

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called The Bungalow Club.

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And there's a group of us that used to meet

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on their patio every Wednesday and have cigars.

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And so I took my wife and kids there

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and my wife and I had been there before.

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And the kitchen sent out some extras

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and one of the things they sent out was

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a Brussels sprouts dish,

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and it was brussels sprouts with chili honey

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and blue cheese.

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And my kids took a bite before I did.

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And my 18-year-old daughter says,

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"What sorcery did they do to these brussels sprouts?"

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And I'm like, "Oh, all right."

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Well, I grabbed the brussels sprouts, take a bite.

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And I'm like, "Holy crap, this is amazing."

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I don't know how Andrew,

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the chef and owner of that restaurant,

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I don't know what he did to those,

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but good Lord, one of the most interesting bites of food

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I've had in a long time.

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Really exceptional.

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- That is so exciting, too.

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- So if you're ever in Minneapolis, Bungalow Club.

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- If you can take something that seems so just regular

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and then just kind of amp it up a little bit

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so that you're like I've never had it that way,

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it's so enjoyable.

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- Well, and I think that's what's cool is that

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everyone knows you can do really cool things with a steak.

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Very simple treatment to make a steak taste amazing.

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There's Wagyu and Kobe and prime beef

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and grass-fed and corn-fed.

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I mean, there's all these things.

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But vegetables often are sort of,

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less so nowadays, than in years past

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but vegetables were always an add-on.

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I remember as a kid there was always a bowl

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of some type of vegetables with an ice cube

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sitting on top.

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So it would kind of melt and make them a little bit chilled.

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Because like if you've ever purchased a bag of whole carrots

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from the grocery store,

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you know they're a little dry in the outside

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and then they sit in your refrigerator

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and they don't taste all that great.

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So evidently that was my mom's way of like

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adding some moisture to them

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or making them taste a little bit better.

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Nowadays you can go to a restaurant

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and the vegetables I think are oftentimes

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way more interesting than the proteins.

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Because you have to be more attentive

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to bring out all the nuance and flavor

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in something that's maybe a little more humble.

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- $293 box of 20.

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- So what is that?

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Just under 15 bucks of cigar at retail

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for the Montecristo, right?

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- Yeah.

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$293 divided by 20.

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- $14?

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- Yeah, $14.65 is what the calculator is spiting out.

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- And then depending on where you buy it

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I'm sure you can get it on sale somewhere.

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- Oh, sure.

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And the War Hawk-

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- And taxes will factor into that

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depending on where you live.

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- Is sitting right around 8 bucks.

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So you're looking at again, a double almost,

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like you can buy two of the War Hawks

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for one of the Classic.

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- I think kind of like our episode previous to this one.

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So that will have been out for a couple of weeks

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when this one airs.

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Both our previous and this one I'm super happy with

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both the Little Brother and the Big Brother

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or the Little Sister, Big Sister.

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Both are excellent.

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You've got a $8, this Henry Clay War Hawk, $8 stick,

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maybe $9 stick, pardon me.

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And then you've got this $14 to $15 stick.

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Both are excellent.

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Like this one is a little more polished.

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I just really think this would be amazing.

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If you could in your home like they used to

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in the old Westerns and the old like

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kind of Victorian era movies,

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the men would retire.

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I say everyone should retire to the smoking room

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and we all light up.

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Men, women, all of it.

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Put the kids to bed.

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- Yeah, right.

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- With no stress just go upstairs, go to sleep.

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- Oh, I know.

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And I love being able to just do it right at the table,

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the dinner table as well.

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Nowadays it's nice,

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Very rare though that I do that.

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- It is pretty rare.

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There are a few places left in the United States

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where you can have a delicious meal

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and light up your cigar right afterwards.

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And I'm always jealous of Facebook videos,

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Instagram videos I see where they're Nicaragua, Honduras,

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the Dominican and they're just smoking at the table

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and you're like.

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- I know.

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Now that we're into this Montecristo that creaminess

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is really coming out.

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- I would say Rob, you and I talk about retrohale

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an awful lot.

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If you were looking to learn how to retrohale

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and you wanted to practice on a cigar

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that wasn't going to burn your nostrils,

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this would be right up there top of the list.

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- The Montecristo Classic series.

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- This is fantastic, right?

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- I just retrohaled it and for me when I retrohale,

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I end up pulling the smoke into my mouth,

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letting some of it out

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and then I try to push it through my nose.

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Because if I try to do all of it right away

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it just seems like it's overpowering and it's also hot.

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Gives it an opportunity to kind of cool down a little bit.

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- I noticed this at the cigar festival,

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the sales director for Plasencia Cigars.

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I watched him light up his cigar.

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And I think you and I do this a lot we...

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- Yeah, puff out your cheeks.

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- He did that and I went,

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see there, everybody that's been smoking for a while

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does that move where you puff your cheeks out

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and you let that smoke just roll around your palate.

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Hit every part of your tongue.

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Then you push a little bit out your nose,

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blow a little bit out, push a lot through your mouth

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and then some more retrohale.

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Yeah, that move right there.

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We all do that.

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- And that War Hawk, it must either be the filler

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or the binder?

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But man, does that have some intensity?

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Even already like my nose is kind of like tingly.

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Definitely not with the Classic,

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that Classic is much more smooth.

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But now I have to ask the question of

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is this a beginner cigar?

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- The Classic?

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- Any of these, beginner cigar.

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- I'd say the Classic series, the Montecristo Classic.

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Price point would maybe push it out

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of beginner category.

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But if you were someone that walked into a tobacco shop

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and wanted to learn let's say how to retrohale

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and wanted to smoke just a really well-balanced, creamy,

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smooth-smoking cigar that didn't have any burn

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on the retrohale and you were willing to spend

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a few extra dollars,

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that would be an awesome beginner cigar.

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- And how are you defining beginner cigar?

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Because I think that's the most interesting thing.

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- I think a flavor profile and a strength

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that's not gonna knock you out.

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I don't think there's anything overpowering here.

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I think it's gonna be nice and round on your palate.

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I think it'd be great to learn and practice

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how to retrohale because it's kind of a tricky move

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until you sort of get the routine of it.

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I think I would recommend this one as well,

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but if you were just starting out I would probably suggest

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just don't retrohale this until you get used to it

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a little bit because it's gonna give you some of that burn.

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- So I'm a little bit different.

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I kind of prescribe to the idea that beginner cigars

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are kind of just BS.

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Like that whole notion that you have to have

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a specific type of light cigar

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in order to enjoy it your first time.

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- I see what you're saying.

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- I think it's a miss.

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And I think I saw Rocky Patel or Nish

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or somebody over there say,

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beginner cigars like it's all you should be asking questions

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or the tobacconist should be asking questions

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or you should be asking questions yourself of like,

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what do I like to drink?

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And particularly they go towards spirits.

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If you're like a-

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- We say that a lot.

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- A bourbon guy or you really like strength and peat.

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If you're a Scotch guy

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and you're first time smoking a cigar,

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you should go straight with a War Hawk.

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Because that's gonna get you the same sensation

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on your palate of strength

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and just kind of intensity of flavor.

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I really have to say that I'm not a big fan

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of beginner cigars being Connecticut Shade

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and mild and medium.

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I think sometimes that might be

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a position where somebody might go,

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well, maybe I'm not into this cigar thing,

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if this is where I need to start.

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- Yeah, and I wouldn't call this a beginner cigar

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just because it's mellow.

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I would call it a beginner cigar just because

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it has a lot of the things I would look for

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in recommending a first-time smoke.

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Let's say you like dark chocolate,

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or you like rich cups of coffee,

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or maybe you want to go sort of yin and yang.

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You wanna do like light-flavored food

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but you want something a little bit more rich on your cigar.

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Well, you could go with a myriad of Maduro cigars

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like a Mexican San Andres that's just gonna have some of that

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Mexican hot chocolate flavors.

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- Absolutely.

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- Super balanced.

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But there are some cigars that I'll point out

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as like first-time sticks

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that I know are going to not disappoint

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and they're gonna have lots of layers of flavor

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without being less necessarily.

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Because like I think most often a beginner cigar

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you go mild, Connecticut, easy.

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But sometimes those types of flavors

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kind of like you and I found when we were infusing,

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when you were infusing cigars with whiskey

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for St. Patrick's Day.

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- Yeah.

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- A whiskey that worked really well to infuse the cigar

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didn't really taste all that great.

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It was way too light.

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It kind of had this thin, off-putting flavor.

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I think sometimes people smoke that first cigar

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and they do a light Connecticut, easy cigar

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and they're kind of unhappy with it.

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- Exactly.

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- There's nothing there.

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- Thin.

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- Yes.

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- But again, I'm smoking this Montecristo

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and I am thinking too to myself like,

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what is it about this that I like?

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And I do like that balance,

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I do like that creaminess that thinness from it.

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It's not super one-dimensional as far as like spicy

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or I always use the word astringent or strong or just sharp.

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- It's just creamy.

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- Classic is a really good name for it, it's Classic.

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It's a great cigar.

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But I could totally see somebody out there being like,

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this is not my preferred method of flavor.

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This Montecristo Classic doesn't do it enough for me.

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And then you jump to the War Hawk and it's like boom,

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it's right there.

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And then obviously Montecristo has a whole

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bunch of other lines that Altadis puts out.

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- Excuse me.

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- And I think that's the other fun thing about

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a bigger company, you got the Montecristo Platinum,

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you have the Nicaragua which is gonna be way more bold

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than this Classic.

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And then you have like the Epic,

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you have the Montecristo Espada,

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which I don't know if I'm saying that right

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but it's phenomenal cigar.

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That Espada is one of my favorites.

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- Another thing that I really tend to look for in a cigar

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if I'm recommending cigars to a newer cigar smoker,

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is I think it's helpful to recommend cigars

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that are readily available and always on the shelf

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at your local cigar shop.

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Because if they do like it,

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they can go back to that after smoking some other things

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that are maybe more limited-release or more boutique.

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Let's say they smoke a boutique cigar

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and it just knocks their socks off,

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and they go back to their shop six months later

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after smoking some other cigars and they're like,

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"Man, that one cigar was really great.

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"Do you have any more of that?"

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"Oh man, no, it was a limited-release it totally sold out."

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It's kind of nice to be able to recommend cigars

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regardless of palate or flavor profile

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that you can go back to and they're always made,

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they're always there.

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They're not going anywhere.

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- And let's talk about that stigma

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because you're always looking for the next best thing.

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Like what's new, what came out?

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I mean, that is a number one question in a tobacco shop.

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And sometimes you just kind of have to go like,

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what are the classics?

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Let me go back and revisit the classics

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because they are just bangers for sticks.

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They're just phenomenal.

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- Yeah, I had the other day, our CEO Sean Knutsen

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smokes boxes of these cigars.

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The Tatuaje Regios or any of that original,

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I think that's the Miami line,

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that classic brown Tatuaje label.

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Outstanding cigars.

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Generally always on the shelf, fantastic cigars.

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10 years ago when I was smoking more occasionally,

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I smoked pretty much exclusively the Tatuaje Noellas

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which is a little smaller than that Regios,

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little Corona cigar, was always the perfect amount of time.

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Had the right amount of pepper and spice

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and flavor profile, just very consistent.

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- Really good.

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And if you get a chance to smoke two cigars side-by-side

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that are different, it's really eyeopening.

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I encourage you to try it at least once

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and just see what you get.

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That's why we did this series is like

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the Big Brother, Little Brother series

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can be done for any cigar.

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Or you can even go outside a brand and say,

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I just want to try stuff like broadleaf,

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anything that has a broadleaf wrapper,

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I wanna try that.

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I wanna compare the two.

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I wanna see which one I like, what do I like about it?

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There's so much to this that you can play with.

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It is truly a fun, fun, fun experiment.

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- Absolutely.

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The other day when I was visiting

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some of my accounts down in Texas,

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walked into one of the shops and walked in the humidor

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to get a cigar and the gentleman running the shop said,

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"Well, what do you wanna smoke?"

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He's like, "What do you like?"

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I said, "Man, I smoke a lot of cigars

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"but I'm really feeling like Cameroon."

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So they were able to point me to a unique Cameroon

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that I hadn't had in a long time.

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And I think that's a tool that people

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need to always remember is when you walk into a cigar shop

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and that staff is willing to help,

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or there's someone in the humidor or say,

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hey, if you have any questions, come ask us.

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Ask them, tell them, hey, I really would like to try

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maybe a couple different broadleaf wrapped cigars,

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or a couple different San Andres.

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Or I'd like to try really good Connecticut

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but maybe something that's a little more unique.

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You name it, they're willing to help and they want to help

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because they have this wealth of knowledge

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that if they don't get chance to share it,

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is kind of just sits there going to waste.

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- Yeah, you're just now a transaction coordinator,

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you're bringing up sticks and that's it.

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- That's exactly right.

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- And if you know what you want then that's great.

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You don't need to ask for any help but it is fun

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to get recommendations, to push your boundaries.

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I mean, to me that's what it's all about.

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- I think so too.

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- Push your boundaries a little bit, see what you like,

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see what you don't like and see why you might like it.

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And now this is just like mental catalog for me of like,

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okay, I know the difference between these two now,

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so now I can like better educate myself on recommendations

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for other people.

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Like really what are you looking for out of that cigar?

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- Yeah, and I think finding out that this has a broadleaf

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as the binder makes this cigar super interesting to me.

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Because you and I think both really enjoy broadleaf,

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it's such a unique tobacco variety.

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- It's very, very, very enjoyable, both of these cigars.

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Hard to pick a winner because they both have unique

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positions in my wheelhouse of where I would use them easily.

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I mean, my go-to morning cigar

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would probably be this Classic, this Montecristo Classic.

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Creamy, smooth, the bitterness of my coffee

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is gonna bounce off of that.

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But then, I don't know.

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I was drinking coffee and both of them played really well

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with this because the War Hawk had that punch to it

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to try to kind of.

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- I went from the War Hawk back to this

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Montecristo Classic, and I got like this great,

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almost like fresh herbs note.

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It just tastes awesome.

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And if you've watched any of Rob and I's videos

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over the last year or so,

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you know that I love unique flavors, especially floral,

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smells of the garden, that sort of thing.

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And this just really popped with all of those.

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I love really unique flavors on a regular basis.

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And I know people that like the same thing all the time.

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They go to one restaurant to have this,

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they go to another restaurant to have that.

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There is nothing wrong with that.

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But even if you're that type of individual,

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branch out just a little bit.

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Try something that you may not normally try.

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- As I keep bouncing back I just keep picking up

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the creaminess of the Montecristo

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and I'm just like, wow, that's so good.

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The War Hawk, again, too I mean, I don't know.

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Do you have a winner?

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Would you pick one over the other?

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- I don't know if I can in this one.

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I think on this one I gotta say it's like a dead heat.

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- It just all depends upon what you're looking for.

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- Yeah, this one is really a challenge.

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- I'm gonna boil it down to the Classic,

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the Montecristo Classic, smooth, creamy,

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easy to retrohale, great stick.

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That's where it resides for me.

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If you like more flavor,

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if you drink certain types of alcohol

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that are more smokey, peaty, stronger, have a bit of a bite,

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go with the War Hawk.

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It has the body that it can put up with those

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types of alcohols and just be a great pairing.

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- This would be great with my favorite Scotch, Lophroaig 10.

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- Exactly.

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- It's gonna balance, it's gonna match that

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real blast of peaty, briny smokiness

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that that Lophroaig has.

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But it's also gonna balance really nicely

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as that Scotch becomes more sweetness

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after those first couple of sips.

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Because a lot of those bold flavors kind of become

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more subtle after subsequent tastings.

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- Palate tasting to it.

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- And this is gonna balance really well.

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- It's a great series, I enjoy doing it.

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We have a whole bag of even more of these.

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So if you're interested in this,

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leave comments down below, let us know what you think.

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What cigars would you wanna put up against

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Big Brother, Little Brother series.

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And as always, I mean, keep smoking cigars

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and expanding your palate.

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That's what it's all about.

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That's what we're here to do.

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And we're just trying to help everyone else go, wow,

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I've never done that before let's try that.

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And we're learning as we go.

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So it's a total blast.

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- In the words of Rob Schneider, "You can do it."

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- That's it.

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I don't know how to end it any other way

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but I will say this message from our sponsor, Boveda.

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I know exactly what humidor to change them out in.

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- Thanks again, have a great weekend.

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- Thanks for joining us.