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Hey hey, this is Shaun with the award-winning GoTennis! Podcast powered by Signature Tennis.

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And now let's get into our recent conversation with Chris and Patrick of GoVision, providers

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of the huge fancy LED screens.

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You see it, basketball, final four events, presidential inaugurations, and even professional

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level tennis events.

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Have a listen and let us know what you think.

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GoVision.

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I'm excited about that because we are GoTennis.

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It sounds like we're already in business together.

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This works out well.

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Clearly, we call the same marketing team and we got started.

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Chris Curtis, we appreciate you guys being here.

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You're here with Patrick and we want to talk to both of you.

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But I'm going to start with you, Chris and say, GoVision, Chris Curtis, who are you and

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why do we care?

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Well, GoVision is one of, when we have some of the most longevity in the video display in

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sports markets.

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A couple of things and I think we bring uniquely to the tennis is great background in all other

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sports.

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So we're seeing a lot of what happens in golf, basketball and college sports.

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Although some of that trending stuff we can help bring in here.

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In addition for the tennis world, we're really, I think the only company in the States that

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does fixed install and rental gear both at the highest levels.

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There's install companies that do some rental and there's rental companies that do some

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install.

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We're the only one that plays at both levels.

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So we can help on permanent venue, facility side, and tournament ops or temporary things

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for that.

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I think that's a good thing for the tennis market obviously.

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And we can also service that as well.

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We have a full service department repair.

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So we've got all that.

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Okay.

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And you're talking about giant television.

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Like boil it down to what we're talking about.

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What do you do?

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So we were pioneering in the term kind of still gets used jumbo tron, even though that was

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some of these, some of these brand from the 90s.

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But we provide portable LED video screens, jumbo trons to major events across sports, music,

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corporate world.

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We do a lot in sport.

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We do a lot of racing.

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We have a major presence in golf.

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We do most of the PGA tour, just completed the Ryder Cup for PGA of America, which was the

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largest temporary installation of LED in North American history.

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So we're really proud of that one.

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We do.

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We do all the NCAA work, major piece of that's the temporary center on the final four.

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Sports NHL, major like baseball, like they're off site games and those kind of things where

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they have temporary need.

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And then we're involved on the stadium side.

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We do installations have about 300 installations across the country, stadiums, amphitheaters,

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racetracks, things like that.

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So that big kind of disc looking thing that hangs in a basketball court with all the displays

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around it, that's you, right?

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At the NCAA final four, yes, because they play at the stadium, they don't have that with

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the court being smaller and focused.

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This thing has grown.

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We've been doing it since 2009, but it's grown.

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It's messy.

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It's actually bigger than the court because the fans are so one of the things with playing basketball

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in a stadium, the fans are way spread out.

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So this gives them, you know, draws them into the action.

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Now, the thing just has, keep, as a matter of fact, we were just hit some meetings about

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the one to get bigger still.

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It's one of our really pride and joy projects for sure.

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It's fantastic.

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Now, Bobby, let's bring in some of their uniqueness.

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You've met Chris before and by before you're talking decades ago.

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So give us the backstory on you and Chris.

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Well Chris and I are both alumni of TCU and we are both Lambda guy-alphas.

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So I was fortunate to meet Chris when I was a freshman going through Rush, sat at a bar

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with him and talked about, because we had a mutual acclaims.

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The person who got me to TCU was somebody that Chris was very familiar with, Dr. Bobby

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Amato.

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So I had some, a name to drop to get my way into the Lambda Cus and just we hit it off.

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And as I said, 42 years later, and I think about, we started seeing GoVision everywhere.

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And I said, "Geez, the only place I was disappointed, I didn't see a big presence in tennis."

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So I called Chris and I worked with Brad.

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What was Brad's like?

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A kid in?

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Mary, man.

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Mary, man.

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Mary, man.

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And we tried to get tennis.

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It's GoVision into more tennis.

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But Chris is being humble too.

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They've also done inaugurations.

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I mean, GoVision has been, you guys did Obama, you did Bush.

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They've been more than just sports.

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So it was just fascinating to me and I just wanted to see the presence in tennis.

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So I tried to push him in that direction.

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We came close a few times, but I think you were in the US open shortly right around that time

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as well.

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So for five years, we did the US open temporary because they did it temporary until when they

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re-did Arthur Ashe and the rest of it, they put in permanent stuff.

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But we did that for five years.

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Temperate of the big board, you know, over the out front where the fan thing was and that

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octagon and the fan thing and then in all the in-court stuff.

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And we've done some other, the ATP tournaments over time.

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And then we have finally started to get a foothold in tennis.

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Patrick can touch on that one.

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We're ready.

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And this will be the last story I tell you.

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And I tried to leverage it.

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My daughter's looking at UGA and some of these apartment complexes literally have jumbo

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trams on their rooftops and we went to a couple that didn't.

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And I was like, well, I know the guy who can get you one of these.

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So I changed room for my daughter.

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We can help you not with this.

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Okay.

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So Patrick, how do we get you guys into tennis?

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What does that relationship look like?

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What is that side of the industry, the media and the giant televisions and things?

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Talk to me about that.

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Yeah.

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So it's a great question because I'm over the sports entertainment division, you know,

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like Chris said, NCAA ESPN.

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But you know, wanting to grow, you know, where in different verticals, that to me seemed

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like one of the biggest opportunities.

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We have, you know, done a little tennis before.

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But what we did about a year, a year and a half ago, we kind of teamed up with a Creonet.

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And they're the sports data and streaming provider and all the ATWTA tournaments.

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And so they had a foothold in most of those tournaments to where, you know, that would be

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our end to get our LED and, you know, AV solutions in there.

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And so we did that USTA tour last year, you know, the smaller tour that they got like 16 or

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17 tournaments, but it was just small boards.

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Then this year in 25, we've really, you know, kind of gotten a foothold more traction than

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the some of the 500 events, 50 events.

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And you know, that's kind of our main goal is to grow that vertical to more like we do in

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golf.

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Because, you know, golf, kind of like Chris said, has a, you know, we cover 75% of the LPGA

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or PGA and all the LPGA.

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So the goal here for us is to bring that fan engagement, everything else to these tournaments

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and kind of grow, you know, along with it.

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So that's kind of the main objective here.

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And we've got a good partner in Creonet and that's kind of how our foot got in the door

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there.

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So Creonet is a partner because they're doing the technology platforms and solution for

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sport.

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What's the difference between what they do and what you do?

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How do you get together?

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They're working on, I can't, no, they're just trying to do their path.

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They're working, you know, their core thing is the streaming piece, but they also then

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are participating in ticketing and infrastructure and those kind of things where we're given

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them another service to add to their portfolio so that they can come in full service and the

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content and the screens, you know, a big part of any sport and the availability is obviously

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TV visible signage.

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And that's important to them for their streaming broadcast side.

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Got it.

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Because most of this is a giant television show, meaning what I see on television is what

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the advertisers are really concerned about.

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What happens in person is fun, but the fans are also just part of the television shows.

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That's our picture.

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Is that is actually what's going on?

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I believe that is definitely became the case about it now.

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I like it.

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I like it because I'm an old school sports guy.

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That's reality.

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Right.

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And going to a baseball game used to be the way that I would have guessed the baseball teams

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made some money is people came to your game and they paid for the ticket to they bought

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a cook.

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But Bobby tells me all the time.

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It's like, no, no, it's not about that.

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It's about the television production.

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Then that sells the advertising.

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Because that's how your whole system scales.

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That's how you can get to millions of viewers instead of just the 20,000 to come to your

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game.

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Yep.

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Without it out.

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That's why you see, you know, baseball backdrop, the backstops always end digital because

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that's on TV.

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tremendous.

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About the same same scores tables in basketball.

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They're on TV.

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They're tremendous.

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Now don't really know when you watch, but you'll see them because they're just there.

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And that's why you see all the teams are pushing their actual team further, further down

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the bench, right?

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Because they're making that that streak of that scores table.

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Love it for TV visible signing.

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And tennis sets up perfect for it, obviously.

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That's right.

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That's why it's happening.

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I was going to kind of compare so like, you know, when you're watching college football

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in the end zones, they always have the LED in the end zones.

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The field goes, the punts, you know, the cameras directly on it.

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And you'll see them turn two or three, you know, brands, advertising at the time on that.

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Okay.

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So Bobby, is this similar to what I think some of the tournaments are doing now, the tennis

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tournaments where they've got the wall in the back.

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But now it's basically just a giant LED screen that says, "Great shot."

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Like, is that what we're talking about here?

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Yeah.

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I mean, they would know more.

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I think the technology goes even further.

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I think that you superimpose your screen, if like, because I know like the stadiums have

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started to install their own, but it used to be, you can superimpose on the wall too.

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I mean, I think you could put an ad on a tennis court that would only be seen to the television

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public.

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So yeah, that's absolutely.

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Yeah, digital insertion, for sure.

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I mean, and like you said, it's an HL with their, you know, chip, you know, within those

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boards.

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So when you're watching a NHL hockey game, but you see stuff going around the boards constantly,

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but it's not there in stadium.

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They can't see it, you know, from the spectator side.

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Because I wondered about that with the soccer games I'm watching.

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You're like, "That guy just ran right through that display ad."

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Like, he didn't even know it was there.

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Only I can see it.

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I think the US Open did that this year where they were, they had something that looked like

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it was on the court, the Ralph Lauren logo or whatever it was.

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But it wasn't actually there because it was different the next, like after the changeover,

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they changed it to something else.

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And that technology's gotten better so you don't have that go lower, it looks like they

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run across to logo on the court.

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They go across the logo on the court.

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That's like this black logo, like it used to, for sure.

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Oh, that makes a lot of sense.

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So how do we get you into, you guys don't do small time tennis events like Bobby's, oh,

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I'm sure I'm putting words in your mouth, Bobby.

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How do we get you to come down and be part of our event?

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Like if we got an event with a couple hundred people, that's not in your world.

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You're looking at tens of thousands, giant stadiums, world class kind of stuff.

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You know, cost, cost effective distance probably going to be pretty tough to do.

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Yeah, but there are groups like, I know you were one time the Georgia professional tennis

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group.

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Like we do TGA, which is Texas golf association.

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They have about seven or eight championships over the course of the year, junior, senior,

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you know, all those things.

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And so we have a package with them that goes out, provides scoring and has the leader board

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and has sponsor messages on it.

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So tying things together like that, you can.

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The core grass roots is probably not, not our spot, right?

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And as Patrick said, we're doing the USDA tour.

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We're doing a lot of 125 and 250 and creep into 500 and, you know, we plan to get to the

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big guys for sure.

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And there's a lot more to it to it.

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You know, the other thing to shine is there's all kinds of other things you're seeing now.

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Media, media backdrops are big for us.

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The Daffer boards, you know, in a lot of sports, the entries, you know, like the, the open

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head, they came out that door.

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Well, there's another screen behind there, right?

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And we've done that in a couple terms for Kereodent where the entry opens like that.

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They call us an Austin this year.

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So they come out board board actually open.

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And the player comes out through that tunnel there, closes up.

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So I'm thinking so Bobby every time he comes out over the court for his tennis lessons,

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like, he's got the flashing out.

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Anything, anything could be done.

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We don't say no.

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I'm just, you know, digital black drops for podcasters are actually a big part of where we're

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going because of the TV set.

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So, huh.

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So we can, we can upgrade my, my say, yeah, we need something, we need something for

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Bobby for sure at some point.

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If you want slamming cast on Monday nights, monitor and patents living room is a go vision.

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Okay.

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You have to look at that.

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I'm disappointed with you because I think it plays into even round, not rather robbers,

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but programs and stuff like that.

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If you do exhibitions because you're getting more bang for your buck for your sponsor too.

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And that's always going to be a tough thing when you're just doing a one off event.

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How do you maximize the sponsor experience because it's not over a week or a two week period?

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Again, tennis has always thought a little bit according to the bottom bottom line.

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That was my thing.

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It was like, guys, you add this, you're adding an enhancement.

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And we went back and forth with the Atlanta tournament and we were so successful it went

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to Dallas.

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The top to beat Jerry Jones.

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The except on the field.

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Did I say that out loud?

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The without a doubt.

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And you know, you're seeing more of that higher level paddle ball, which not on TV ones,

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but just state championships and stuff.

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We're seeing dashed her boards and baseline boards going in just to give the sponsoring

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increase.

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Here's the other thing.

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Everybody's after the holy grail of a younger audience.

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So our children have no idea of going to an event without a video screen.

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So you're trying to attract people to something and want to look bigger time.

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It's one of the steps you can take to look bigger time and give your sponsors a better

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feel to and your participants.

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You pay attention to everybody.

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A better experience.

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I was guilty.

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I went to a Falcons game last year and I watched the Dawn Television screen the entire game.

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It's hard not to.

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It's hard not to.

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You know, you get you trained.

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You get the replays, which you always want to see the replays.

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And you keep them.

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I'm here.

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I could look down at the field and I'm spending the whole time in Mercedes-Benz looking

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up.

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So, you know, but again, considering tennis has got a real youth problem.

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Another good avenue to pursue to get the youth more interested in the game.

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Yeah.

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And then you got to entertain them.

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It's just like the colleges are putting in on screens.

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They're nice tennis facilities for sure.

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That type stuff.

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You know, it's interesting you talked about the game and so you realize that the whole sort

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of genesis of the everywhere in the last 20 years.

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I mean, before that, I got in this business in the early 90s.

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And at that point, there were screens in any stadiums.

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Well, the last time I said Cowboys played in a Super Bowl, I built a temporary screen in

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the stadium.

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Think about that.

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Like, are kids like that?

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This is the way it's always been.

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The cost and such, bringing it down to the high school levels and everything else.

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Yeah, but are affordable than you think?

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I still think that we can make a big impact because on the fan engagement side of it, it's

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like big new and kick off.

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We made around it them a little bit and they were really wanting to get the fan engagement

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more.

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And I think you can translate that over to any vertical where there's tennis, golf, whatever.

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There's a lot of creative ideas you can do with digital.

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And I think that's one of the biggest things.

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I know you guys work with kids a lot.

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But when you're getting them in these lower level tournaments, 125 to go on to watch it,

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you had more fan engagement side.

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Things they could do and interact with.

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I think that just kind of gets more and more involvement and enthusiasm.

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Well, sticking with that, Patrick, what does that look like fan engagement?

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Because we use some of these terms sometimes and they're like, okay, great.

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What does that even mean?

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Can you give me some examples if we go into a tennis tournament?

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And I said, all right, Patrick, you're in charge of fan engagement.

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Pretend unlimited budget, of course, right?

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So unlimited budget, you're in charge of fan engagement.

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We're Bobby's fan for it.

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Don't worry about it.

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Thank you, Bobby.

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Fan engagement.

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What's that going to look like?

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Well, it would be, if you're coming into the tournament and we can build any size, any

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shape, think of our module, Ellie, these as Legos.

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So we can build anything where they could come in and you could have an interactive where

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all the players are going through it and you can take pictures or you can show quick lessons,

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what you need to do on serving or just anything like that.

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It's just making the fan you want to sit there and watch it and look at it and not walk away.

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And I think Chris, what is it where you want three different, where anyway you look, you

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school that digital, to come in and engage.

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And that's because that's the generation.

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Also, all sports and tennis included as trouble get them to come live because it's better

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on TV.

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Well, what's what's better on TV replays, the statistical stuff, right?

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So for the fan in the arena or in the court, stadium court, to get to see the same statistical

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type of information ball speed and things that you're watching, that engage them in the

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match, right?

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I mean, I've even found myself guilty as you go to football game and now you're wondering

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what stats are, right?

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So, and stuff.

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I think that whole engagement in the arena and again, fanfests, welcome centers, things

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like that.

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Yeah, and it's the information like real time, right Chris?

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I mean, they can do betting real time.

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You know, with that end of the boom, where I'm going to bet on this next serve, it's going

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to be over 100.

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You know, they can just boom.

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That's what I brought these guys on.

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Nice for me.

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So I think it's so in the seat, I've got a little up, down button, up on the right, down

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on the bottom.

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And I can just go over and under back and forth and just spend my whole life savings.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm sure you guys know that tennis is one of the most bad on this.

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And they can get on that.

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Really?

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As we got into that, that really surprised me.

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Because we, you know, and that goes back to speed of data and so forth, obviously, and

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tennis is facing golf golf stun the same thing because of real time betting state towards

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legal.

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There's real time betting golf, right?

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So you can have no latency to the reporting of whether they made the putter not.

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So it's real interesting.

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That's right, wrong or otherwise.

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That's where the world's gone.

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Well, and is that so is that an individual sport versus team sport from a dad from a betting

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point of view?

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No.

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And as in golf are more drawn to betting than some of the team sports.

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Or I honestly don't know that I didn't I don't think they necessarily are.

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I think the real time because the real time exists and everything now, you know, who could

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win the second half?

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Are they going to like it?

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But all you can go to are they going to score on this drive when they take over on a

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drive?

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And so I mean, there's all real time out there.

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The tennis thing I found really interesting.

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It's probably anyone I learned that.

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And I don't know if that's because there's a proliferation of available matches because

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they get a webcast stuff from all around the world.

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Well, there's no offseason.

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Right.

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That's just the truth there.

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There's really no offseason in tennis.

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So yeah, you're right all over the world.

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We might not be playing here, but I'm sure there's a clay core tournament in South America

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going on.

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So people can get points.

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So yeah.

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And then you know, I asked that what we got involved with the webcast side.

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I can't imagine that somebody's watching the 1800th versus the 1700th 50th person on Wednesday,

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morning 11 other in their parents and they're like, oh, you would be surprised.

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And that's where the whole that part came out, right?

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I don't know.

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You might have a problem if it's Wednesday morning at 9 a.m. and you're watching tennis somewhere

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else in bed.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I'm really tennis expert like you get those if you listening.

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If you're watching it, it's a Wednesday morning, make call a professional, right?

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But I think in tennis as well, you probably also have no shortage of people that need the

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money.

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Like Bobby made the joke saying they keep getting caught too.

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It's like guys, just that have some fun.

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Do your thing.

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If you got a problem, yeah, fix it.

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But this whole like I'm going to pay you to take a dive in tennis thing.

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They keep getting caught with this stuff and it's just not good.

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I know we got a little off track from fancy LED Legos, but it's also an entertaining conversation

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to say, okay, what does this look like in the tennis world to get information from somebody

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like you guys that have said, hey, we've we've looked into this a little bit and we've seen

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an interesting response.

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I didn't know tennis was the most bad upon sport in the world and I could have my own

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theories just to one of the most.

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There's one of the most.

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There's another one you can imagine.

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But ball, it's not arc football.

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It's just a volume of sport.

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Yeah.

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So here, back to the in stadium type stuff.

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So right or cup, we just did you know huge crowds.

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Right or cups of hard event to see because there's only four groups.

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Screens have became a big part of it.

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We had screens on the driving range and on the practice day, we're showing the full track

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man on the driving range.

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So the ball speed and the distance and Bryson D. Shambo's up there in the whole crowd.

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Just like encouraging him on and he's totally into it to see like how far he can hit at you.

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Which by the way, it was like 383 or something.

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So you know, it's it's that otherwise you've just got guys on a driving range hit malls,

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right?

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And tennis you've got downtime between matches and warmups and all that.

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There's a lot of opportunity to entertain the crowd for sure.

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And yeah, you're seeing it at the upper levels for sure, right?

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I mean, that's the opens became an entertainment.

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So Bobby, how do we translate this into the tennis world?

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What does it look like?

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Is this pickle ball like pickle balls have it's 15 minutes?

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Do we need giant pickle ball screens or we don't want to talk about it?

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I did.

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You know, pickle ball.

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There's a great Facebook another story.

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I'm sorry guys.

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Facebook yesterday.

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Beautiful girl hitting against a wall with beautiful strokes.

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Next picture is a fat guy and no shirt on and tight short.

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And you need some same wall.

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It's like, yeah, that pretty much sums up my feeling between.

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There, that was a perfect Facebook moment.

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So I, and again, these gentlemen would know more.

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My first one, you know, when I would make the introduction, trying to get to, it was always

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the short-sightedness of bringing something like this and making it a production.

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And you know, I was very fortunate when I was going to grad school just learning because

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we were in a transitional period as well in the 90s as far as how you would mark it.

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Going away from marketing single entities like signage to packages.

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And I think this is another one of those moments where we're now marketing an experience.

483
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From the moment you walk in, it wouldn't be cool to give the fan the experience of walking

484
00:24:48,260 --> 00:24:49,580
in the stadium.

485
00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:54,300
One of the things about going to the US Open week one especially is the ability to go to

486
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:58,660
the practice courts and watch the players where they're so close.

487
00:24:58,660 --> 00:25:00,340
Why isn't their screen?

488
00:25:00,340 --> 00:25:05,060
So you can watch the practice courts as well and feel like this is what this person looks

489
00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:08,500
like when they're a little more relaxed, a little more engaging.

490
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:12,420
And I think that would help tennis because tennis has an interaction problem.

491
00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:15,860
We can't reach out and touch these guys in gaps.

492
00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:22,140
So I think that would help a lot tennis to make these people more human to see them more.

493
00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:23,140
Absolutely.

494
00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:24,140
Absolutely.

495
00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:27,580
You didn't think I'd be that deep with that one Sean, huh?

496
00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:28,580
You were.

497
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:31,780
I wasn't sure they're just looking at you like, I don't even know what to say to that.

498
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:32,780
Yes.

499
00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:33,780
Yeah.

500
00:25:33,780 --> 00:25:34,780
Okay.

501
00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:35,780
We're in.

502
00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:36,780
Where do we sign up?

503
00:25:36,780 --> 00:25:41,900
You know, but you know, to not go back to the pickleball, the paddle ball is also doing

504
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:46,220
a really good job of like, you know, if you want to pickleball or paddle ball at all,

505
00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:52,780
like on TV, you know, they're producing an entertainment deal like like all sports sort

506
00:25:52,780 --> 00:25:57,100
of reddit, like a long term sports like tennis, redd into the sort of old garden going,

507
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:58,620
well, you know, we're a tennis match.

508
00:25:58,620 --> 00:26:00,820
We're not an entertainment figure.

509
00:26:00,820 --> 00:26:01,820
I like work rodeo.

510
00:26:01,820 --> 00:26:04,060
The gentleman who ran it forever is like, we're a rodeo.

511
00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:05,060
We're not going to have entertainment.

512
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:06,060
Guess what?

513
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:10,660
They have concerts now because you have to respond to your audience, right?

514
00:26:10,660 --> 00:26:16,340
And I think those do or rackets, sports are doing a pretty good job of engaging the audience.

515
00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:17,340
Right.

516
00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:20,940
And they're not as entertaining from a TV is tennis would be, obviously.

517
00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:27,580
Yeah, and we actually did the reserve Miami paddle in January.

518
00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:30,060
Now that's pretty poshy.

519
00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:33,460
I mean, I got to admit, you know, they have the helicopters coming in and bringing in,

520
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:37,780
you know, the celebrity guests and everything.

521
00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:43,140
You know, that is something they had full LED all the way around and just really cool player

522
00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:47,620
intro, you know, coming out to be introduced.

523
00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:52,580
So can you do the, can you do see through LED?

524
00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:54,700
It's like, yeah.

525
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:57,060
So a petal court, right?

526
00:26:57,060 --> 00:27:03,420
The petal court where the court itself then can switch from transparent to showing me

527
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:06,180
something both sides or one side.

528
00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:07,180
Can you do that?

529
00:27:07,180 --> 00:27:10,660
Yeah, there's technology that you can do that with.

530
00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:11,660
Yeah, Bonnie.

531
00:27:11,660 --> 00:27:13,180
Come to our guy, I'll text us.

532
00:27:13,180 --> 00:27:14,180
We've got someone.

533
00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:16,900
Yeah, we've got something on the back wall.

534
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:19,740
Okay, because I've, I've always wanted that.

535
00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:23,340
I've always wanted that television just to become a window.

536
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:25,260
Like, why can't I just see through that?

537
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:26,420
Why can't it become nothing?

538
00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:30,460
And I understand technology is limited and we're just now getting there.

539
00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:38,060
But I'm picturing a paddle court with the outside being able to show a replay or basically

540
00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:45,940
being able to become the screen rather than just a clear glass aquarium for former tennis

541
00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:46,940
players.

542
00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:49,940
Yeah, and Chris, I think that's the glam, is that what we call the glam product?

543
00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:50,940
Yeah, that we have.

544
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:51,940
So there's several iterations.

545
00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:56,140
The awesome stuff that's transparent and if that pole transparency, like couldn't watch

546
00:27:56,140 --> 00:28:00,420
it match currently, but there's, there's, there's other, there's actually failed now that

547
00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:01,420
goes on Windows.

548
00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:04,460
And then turn on the TV itself.

549
00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:09,140
Okay, I mean, which will be on your wall, which will be on your wall someday, too.

550
00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:10,580
I was going to say, send me a link.

551
00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:11,860
I will place an order.

552
00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:15,220
Again, as long as we get Bobby to pay for it.

553
00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:16,220
Now, all right.

554
00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:20,860
Bobby, you got anything else for these guys before I hit him with King of Tennis or in this

555
00:28:20,860 --> 00:28:22,420
case, maybe King of Sports?

556
00:28:22,420 --> 00:28:28,100
Just, just at a curiosity, do you work with racket X last year?

557
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:30,860
Down in Miami and they're going to be a four-legged couple.

558
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:34,140
They do, they do racket sports, X-O.

559
00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:39,300
And I know, you know, and this is the difference again, just to reiterate the tennis in the new

560
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:40,620
guys business.

561
00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:42,100
New guys are coming in this.

562
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,740
So you have a lot of brand strongest establish themselves.

563
00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:47,540
And they will spend more money than tennis will right now.

564
00:28:47,540 --> 00:28:51,220
And you know, because everybody's trying to establish themselves as the brand.

565
00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:52,900
So pick a ball and paddle.

566
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:56,980
Do have a lot of fresh money coming in and they're smart using it.

567
00:28:56,980 --> 00:29:01,780
Again, another reason for tennis to look at this and say, hey, it is working.

568
00:29:01,780 --> 00:29:03,020
Getting these sports off the ground.

569
00:29:03,020 --> 00:29:08,260
You imagine if the sport that really gave birth to all these other sports and is playing

570
00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:13,060
being played at an ungodly level right now, more appreciation to the players that are

571
00:29:13,060 --> 00:29:14,700
actually playing tennis.

572
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:17,380
Because it's phenomenal what's going on on the court.

573
00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:20,780
How do we make it where people get to see it even up more up close and more personal?

574
00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:26,500
Yeah, I think, I think racket X is a great combination and a conversation to have because

575
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:31,340
they're doing some really unique things, especially with that specific event.

576
00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:32,820
So we'll definitely make that connection.

577
00:29:32,820 --> 00:29:35,140
Yeah, we'd welcome that.

578
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:36,140
Yes.

579
00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,140
Yeah, I think that's good.

580
00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:41,580
Oh, Patrick, Chris, anything else you guys, you have any announcements?

581
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:44,580
I always just kind of give the offer say, is there anything exciting coming up?

582
00:29:44,580 --> 00:29:47,580
Anything you guys want to talk about before I ask our final question?

583
00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:49,580
We've got a lot of things.

584
00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:52,820
We're just trying to get them in order.

585
00:29:52,820 --> 00:29:56,580
The other thing, Patrick, like we do game day and that.

586
00:29:56,580 --> 00:30:01,660
So we're working now with technology that's the touch screen.

587
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:06,460
So when they go to the side field next year and game day, they'll be touch screening stuff

588
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:07,460
on that field.

589
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:10,540
You see that works, do it on a monitor right now this year.

590
00:30:10,540 --> 00:30:11,540
Stuff like that.

591
00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:14,300
Some fun stuff coming that way.

592
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:18,660
Obviously, Feast and other things come into the US is again, good thing for our business.

593
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:22,540
But really, tennis is one of our, I'm not just saying that because we're on here today,

594
00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:25,540
it's a very much a target deal for us right now.

595
00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:29,820
So we appreciate your help and thoughts and your knowledge and we'd love to talk to the

596
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:31,620
racket X people for sure.

597
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:33,940
Yeah, we'll definitely make all the connections.

598
00:30:33,940 --> 00:30:37,180
So I want to, I'm going to start with you, Chris.

599
00:30:37,180 --> 00:30:41,180
And because I think you have a tennis specific answer for this, but we have our King of

600
00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:44,940
Tennis question and then Patrick, I'm going to open it up and you can be all sports if you

601
00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:49,420
want, which we've never actually asked the question that way, but I'm sure you'll have something

602
00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:50,620
interesting for us.

603
00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:56,980
So let me start with Chris and just say Chris, if you were King of tennis, is there anything

604
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:03,700
and this is for the whole world or just the US from any vantage point, if you were King

605
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:06,860
of tennis, is there anything you would do or change?

606
00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:12,260
Well, I think, you know, coming from a not strong background, but at least some knowledge

607
00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:13,260
point of watching.

608
00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:17,140
And I think this is probably whoever is King of tennis is trying the same thing, but more

609
00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:22,060
broadcast exposure and then how do you create the broadcast to draw the person to the

610
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:26,860
event because if you haven't seen tennis at bias level, it's kind of, it's a little bit

611
00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:27,860
like hockey.

612
00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:32,580
It's not as TV friendly, you don't realize the true speed of what's going on there.

613
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:37,460
So I think the number one is more broadcast exposure, but maybe that broadcast that makes

614
00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:40,900
it attractive that you're going to come out and see these guys girls play.

615
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:41,900
That's my one.

616
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:46,940
And then the second, you know, at a more grassroots level, I think tennis has to figure out how it

617
00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:53,300
capitalizes on the participation level in pickleball or at least study the growth of what's

618
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:54,300
going on there.

619
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:58,100
They can't just act like it's a non factor.

620
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:03,700
So I think that that participation, taking how you attach to that, I think, is interesting.

621
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:04,700
I agree.

622
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:05,700
I like it.

623
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:07,780
All right, Patrick, I'm going to zoom out a little bit for you.

624
00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:09,980
So it doesn't have to be tennis.

625
00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:15,740
So if you were King of tennis or sports in general, I know you guys come from the entertainment

626
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:16,740
side.

627
00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:21,060
So it usually has to do with your expertise, but any answer is acceptable.

628
00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:23,500
King of sports, anything you would do or change?

629
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:27,900
Well, I actually did my homework and it was, I wanted to be King of tennis.

630
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:28,900
Okay.

631
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:30,500
And what that would take.

632
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:38,340
And of course, that's, you know, I would love to totally just dominate the, all the levels

633
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:44,060
here in the US, you know, the 1000s, the 500, and increased more and more scope and fan

634
00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:46,940
engagement ideas with them.

635
00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:54,980
And what I've seen, you know, because we do the Dallas Open, the 500 and then the DC 500,

636
00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:59,940
and I'm working on those, they've increased more scope again this year.

637
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:06,900
And not just outside the stadiums and everything for the fan engagement, but also inside, to

638
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:11,420
where even the court two and court three are having LED around it.

639
00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:16,260
So they're starting to drive that more to where it's now that maybe more sponsorship or

640
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:22,060
branding, but, you know, there's still going to be breakways and TVs because like in the hospitality

641
00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:24,260
areas at DC.

642
00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:28,260
They had the practice courts up on the TVs in there.

643
00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:33,140
So you could sit there and watch the players, you know, out there on the practice court.

644
00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:37,460
And I'm going to reiterate a little bit what Chris said because I've gone to both of these.

645
00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:40,100
And those athletes are phenomenal.

646
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:47,260
So they've, they need to show that it's spooky that some five foot six little girl can knock

647
00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:50,540
the ball the way they do and the way they move.

648
00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:55,740
So to get to get more of the fans looking at that's where we'll drive them out, you know, to

649
00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:56,740
the tournaments.

650
00:33:56,740 --> 00:33:58,980
I think it's huge.

651
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:04,620
But we're starting to explore looking internationally.

652
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:07,060
You know, we're not a big international.

653
00:34:07,060 --> 00:34:13,140
We do some stuff, but I think this is an opportunity for us to look more international for tennis.

654
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:17,580
And that's just, that's more personally for me because, you know, if I'm key in tennis,

655
00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:24,700
I want to own, but at the end of the day, it's, I know I keep going back to it, but I think

656
00:34:24,700 --> 00:34:31,940
the more fan engagement you can get via on TV or in person, I kind of have like this live

657
00:34:31,940 --> 00:34:38,140
concept that it gets a little, you know, crazy when a point scored in the LED just goes

658
00:34:38,140 --> 00:34:42,740
off with all these great graphics and cool stuff, you know, but not live where you're throwing

659
00:34:42,740 --> 00:34:45,220
the beer cans and everything else.

660
00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:50,060
But I think there's just a lot of creative ways that, you know, that the AB, you know, especially

661
00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:55,980
the LED side can, can make it more attractive when, whether it's in the tennis or the paddle

662
00:34:55,980 --> 00:35:01,580
or the pickle, you know, I think the digital is a great platform to, to get it to grow.

663
00:35:01,580 --> 00:35:03,940
Not in either of those answers surprised you.

664
00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:06,980
I love the one in such a bright up.

665
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:10,740
So this is strictly hypothetical.

666
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:17,580
Did you get your screens to a small island, let's say in the British Virgin Island?

667
00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:18,580
Yes.

668
00:35:18,580 --> 00:35:21,820
It'd be a big pro-am tennis event.

669
00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:22,820
Yes.

670
00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:25,220
Keeping in mind that I'd have to be a part of the crew.

671
00:35:25,220 --> 00:35:26,220
Yes.

672
00:35:26,220 --> 00:35:27,220
Back to that in.

673
00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:28,220
You could do that.

674
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,220
Yes.

675
00:35:29,220 --> 00:35:30,220
Yes.

676
00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:32,140
And then it didn't do that.

677
00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:38,340
Now it's kind of, I mean, as we had an opportunity with, uh, the Emperor to play pro-global.

678
00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:46,060
So they had a paddle in St. Mark's that they had, I had a two week time period to get this

679
00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:47,060
all done.

680
00:35:47,060 --> 00:35:48,380
And we were ready to go.

681
00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:51,140
We've got our container ready.

682
00:35:51,140 --> 00:35:57,060
Had it all ready to go, but some of the big guys backed out and so we didn't get to do it.

683
00:35:57,060 --> 00:36:00,420
But to answer your question, I've got to because Chris is here.

684
00:36:00,420 --> 00:36:01,420
Yeah.

685
00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:02,420
We can do whatever you want.

686
00:36:02,420 --> 00:36:05,340
It just happens to be my little favorite place in the world.

687
00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:09,180
So you'd probably even get a good price on that bill and a lot of crew.

688
00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:10,180
It would be interesting.

689
00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:13,460
Well, guys, I'm impressed that we, we doing the homework.

690
00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:15,660
No one go to 250 and a 500 is.

691
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:16,820
Thank you for showing.

692
00:36:16,820 --> 00:36:20,140
We got tennis love here right out the bat.

693
00:36:20,140 --> 00:36:22,180
So thanks a lot for that.

694
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,300
And Chris, great seeing you.

695
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:25,300
Good to see you, Bobby.

696
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:26,300
Nice to meet you, Sean.

697
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:27,300
Thanks so much for having us.

698
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:28,300
Yes.

699
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:29,300
Thank you very much.

700
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:30,300
Appreciate your time.

701
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:34,660
We'll check back when Patrick is King of tennis in a year or two.

702
00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:35,660
That's good.

703
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:36,660
I'm a mincharch.

704
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:37,660
I like it.

705
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:38,660
Remember the little guys, Patrick.

706
00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:40,020
Just remember the little guys.

707
00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:43,420
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