>> Steve Palmer: All right, Lawyer Talk. Off The Record, on the air. A Q and A. The questions just keep pouring in. I appreciate that. And they pour in not only@lawyertalkpodcast website.com. we got a question on Facebook the other day. We're getting questions in the comments. Uh, wherever people get their podcasts, we are getting questions. Uh, so thank you for those. Um, and by the way, if you want to have your question, uh, all you got to do is ask, and we'll get to it sooner or later. Um, but if you want to have your. If you think you got the chops and you want to ask your question live on the air, let us know. We'll arrange to contact you. We'll zoom you in, uh, or phone you in and you can have your question answered live. You can put yours truly to the task to see if I can really tap dance around the question without doing any research. Um, see if you can stump me. Uh, anyway, today's question, uh, comes from Monica, and she says, hey, Steve, love your podcast. I know you practice law in Ohio. That is true. I do practice law in Ohio. Right upstairs. Palmer legaldefense.com uh, I know you practice law in Ohio. Does that mean you can't go to other states to represent people? How does that work with attorneys? That's a great question. Um, and I'll do my best to. I think I can give you the right answer. So, first of all, I work in both federal and State courts in federal court. I am licensed. My first federal license was here in the Southern District Eastern Division District, uh, court in Columbus, Ohio. Um, I also am licensed to practice or I've been admitted to practice in various other federal courts around Ohio. I've even practiced in federal courts out of State. And typically, all that requires is for me in a federal court just to call up the clerk of courts or get on online and fill out a little form and I get admitted into other federal courts. So I don't need a specific license to go to a federal court in Kentucky or a federal court in California or a federal court anywhere. I just have to apply. And, you know, the last one I did down in Kentucky, the clerk made me, uh, take a class on how to do, how to use their e filing system. So, you know, look, I did it and that was fine. I got some, a good standing certificate, I think, from our, my court where I was originally admitted and I was, uh, ready to go. So I was working in Kentucky in federal court, uh, outside my home turf. Now State court's a little bit different State court requires, um, typically a license to practice law in that State. So in Ohio, back In the early 90s or in 95, I passed the Ohio bar exam, uh, and I was sworn in. I walked across the stage and, uh, they gave me my Certificate November of 95, uh, that let me practice in all courts in Ohio. Uh, now at that Time, I had the opportunity, if I wanted to go try to waive in. In other words, because I was admitted in Ohio, uh, some other states will let you apply and pay to waive in, meaning I don't have to take another bar exam in other states. Most states, though, require something a little bit more than that, at least initially. You have to, uh, take a bar exam, you have to pass, uh, their character and fitness testing, uh, etc. And that's a bit of a process. It can be costly. And then you have, like, yearly requirements to keep it up you. Ohio, for instance, we have to do continuing legal education. I don't think in Michigan they have that requirement. So it just all depends on what you want to do. A lot of people will get dual licensing. Say if you're on the border between Ohio and Indiana or Ohio and Kentucky, Ohio and Michigan. You know, there's a lot of that going on. Ohio and Pennsylvania, West Virginia, there's. There's a lot of that going on. Um, but short of that there, it's still possible to go practice law in another State. And it's called pro hoc vichy, um, P R O H O C V I C E. Which means for this case only, or for this thing only, so I can go ask to appear in a foreign court or in a different State, uh, pro hag vichy, just, uh, for a case. So usually what that requires is some forms to fill out with the State bar Association or the State supreme court or the highest court, whatever governing body there is, uh, and then a sponsor or two locally that already are licensed to practice law. So I have a colleague and a partner in another business called Criminal Defense Consultants. Check it out, uh, if you're curious. But he comes down here in Michigan and works with me periodically on cases, and he gets admitted pro hakviche. So if we're working on a case we're trying to case together, he gets admitted for that case only, and then he's back to Michigan to root for the Wolverines. So I can do it. And I get calls all the Time. I'm working on a case in Virginia, and, uh, I don't have a license in Virginia, but I was admitted pro hachviche to work on that case? Uh, I, you know, some, it doesn't always make Sense for me to go work on a case out of State, but some people really, uh, want it. And you know, we do a lot of appellate work. I do a lot of um, trial, uh, work. We do a lot of consulting work. So we get calls periodically to go out of State. So if you've got, you know, if you've got a case and you want us to take a look at it out of State, I'm happy to do it. But that's typically how it's done. You got to get licensed in the State where you work, um, and then you can use that to get in for a single case or you can apply for reciprocity, um, to wave into other jurisdictions if you're going to go regularly. But again, that usually requires a little bit more, uh, money and it requires some obligations and it's a little bit more paperwork, uh, intense. But anyway, great question. 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