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That's exactly what I'm going to be chatting about in this

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Now let's discuss lead generation.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome to the show today.

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I've got something to talk about today, which I hope is going to

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be really helpful for everybody.

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We're going to be talking about lead generation, so how we can

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generate new leads for our business.

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So I wanted to kind of.

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Get back to basics to begin with and talk about.

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What is a lead.

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So a lead is essentially, it's a person who has expressed an interest in the

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product or service that you sell.

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So, so in essence, they are.

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A potential customer.

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And lead generation.

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That is the, the process of identifying and cultivating those

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potential customers or your prospects.

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That might be interested in buying your products and services.

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That you sell.

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So why is it so important?

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Well, lead generation is really important because.

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If you aren't able to generate a consistent stream of leads each month.

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Your business is going to go through cycles of feast and famine.

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So that's either not having enough clients or just having too much

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work to handle at a given point.

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And.

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Both of these things that they can play havoc with your cashflow.

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Your time management.

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And ultimately make it really difficult to grow your business.

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So what common myths are there about lead generation?

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There are quite a few,

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I'm just going to summarize some of the main points that I feel are the

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main myths around lead generation, firstly, that, that you don't

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need to do in a lead generation.

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If you already have clients.

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And that if you have a website and perhaps a peer in a few business directories

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online, like Google maps, yelp.com back cetera, that the leads will just

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keep coming in automatically over time.

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And that posting your work on social media counts as lead generation.

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There are different types of leads.

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And I think this is an important distinction to make, particularly

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between inbound and outbound leads and what the differences are.

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So.

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What is an inbound lead?

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An inbound lead are the ones that come to you first.

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So these are the ones that just seem to trickle in naturally the,

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they might have discovered you via a Google search and maybe.

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Stumbled across your Google business listing, or maybe they've, they've

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been looking online for a local architect or practice and they've

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stumbled across your website.

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Or maybe randomly found a social media post that you put out there.

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There may be a referral from a friend or a past client.

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These are the leads that most businesses rely on.

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As your approach to them is passive.

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Basically you just, you do sitting back and relaxing.

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Getting along with your other things that you're working on and

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waiting for them to contact you.

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So you're waiting for the phone to ring you, just waiting

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for the email inquiry or.

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Somebody to fill in your website, contact form.

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So this is the approach that.

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Many practices take, especially so practitioners and micro sized

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practices that may not need to have many clients to stay in business.

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Or perhaps those practices who are situated in a location where the demand

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for architectural services or for their particular area of expertise.

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Outstrips the local supply.

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So that could be perhaps if there had a very specific niche,

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something quite unusual in architecture that they did that.

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The parts aren't many other businesses locally that do it.

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The thing with the, with inbound leads is you, have, you got no control over the

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volume and consistency of inbound leads.

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So problems can occur.

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When in braille, inbound leads naturally slow down, perhaps due

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to a change in the wider economy.

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Increasing prices.

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Or perhaps new competitors in your area or your chosen niche.

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Or problems can occur if you're wanting to grow your practice and

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you find yourself in a position where you need to bring in a high number

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of leads every month than before.

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Then what naturally filtered in previously?

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So what is an outbound lead to an outbound lead?

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Is a sales lead that you contact first.

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So this could be for a variety of ways.

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It could be.

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Depending on the types of client you work with, it could

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be cold calling direct mail.

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Advertising could be through an event, email campaign, content marketing, or

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even a social media campaign or, or reaching out to them through social media.

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This is something that you can actively do any time you have more control in

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generating outbound leads than inbound.

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And this is really what lead generation is all about.

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And perhaps then the main thing that I want to talk about today.

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So what are the first steps in generating outbound leads?

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There are many different ways to generate outbound leads and to nurture them.

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But, before you rush off to put up that big advertising billboard

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or spend hundreds of pounds or dollars on Facebook ads, The first

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thing you need is a strategy.

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Firstly, I would consider your business strategy first, before you think

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about any lead generation strategy.

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I have a think about what those income goals are and what services that you plan

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to be selling over the coming months.

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How many packages do you need to sell?

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How many new clients do you need?

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Once you're clear on that.

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You can then think about the best approach to generate leads based on your

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business strategy for the coming months.

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There are three types of leads that, that you're really going to

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need, depending on how far along they are in their journey with you.

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And these are cold, warm, and hot leads.

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I'm going to use an analogy here.

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I'm a big music fan.

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So.

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Let's just imagine you're in a rock band on your you're going on your next tour

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and you, you want to sell out every venue.

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Your cold leads don't yet know about you.

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They've never heard of your band.

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Or they've never heard any of your music, so to help them discover you.

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You may need to create content online, like social media posts,

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maybe write some blog articles or share your music on Spotify.

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Or apple for them to find.

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Your warm leads are already connected to you some way they are a little

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bit more familiar with what you do.

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They may have listened to a few of your songs already.

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Maybe they follow you on Instagram or have signed up to your weekly

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email newsletter to hear about your latest album or your tour.

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And your hot leads are your big fans.

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They are.

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Typically your past customers.

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So they've bought your albums.

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They've paid to see you in concert before.

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Maybe they've even bought the t-shirt.

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They are the people that are most likely to buy a ticket for your upcoming tour.

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So if you need new customers fast, these are usually the best people to focus on.

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So your hot leads are the most likely to buy soon.

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Your cold leads are the least likely.

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So you're going to need to nurture them for longer.

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To get a sale from someone that's a cold lead.

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So let's talk a little bit about some of the common mistakes.

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Well, one of them is focusing too much of your time, money and

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resources on marketing activities that are best suited to cold leads.

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So remember those are the ones that need the most nurturing that are

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least likely to buy any time soon.

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They're going to take the longest time to convert into a paying customer.

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And the sorts of activities that you might be doing for those leads are things like

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posting to social media, writing a blog.

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Writing case studies, adding glossy photos of finished.

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Renovations and buildings to your portfolio, or maybe running paid ads.

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Often we focus on these things as they can feel more comfortable to do.

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And you can still feel like you've accomplished something if you do though.

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I mean, it's almost a form of.

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Procrastination.

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And feeding, like you're doing something that is contributing towards

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generating leads and getting sales.

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That doesn't feel anywhere near as uncomfortable as reaching out to somebody

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personally or getting on the phone with them and having a conversation.

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Another mistake is just not Jeweling time for lead generation.

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I'm a big believer that if things aren't scheduled, that they don't get done.

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So, if you want to generate leads for your business, you're going to have to schedule

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some time to do it and try and make it.

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A regular habit.

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So try and set aside some time each week to generate a nurture leads and

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depending on the position you're at and how many leads do you need to generate?

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That's going to have a bearing on how much time you need to set aside.

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Another mistake is being just reactive rather than proactive.

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You tend to be reactive to inbound leads.

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You, you sit around and wait for them to come in.

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And then as, and when the lead comes in, you react to it.

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You get, try to get them to make the next step, whether that's booking a sales call

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or you start the conversation with them.

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But if you want to generate outbound leads and you're looking for more

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consistency with lead generation, you really need to be more proactive.

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The reactive.

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You've got to do the work to attract, connect, nurture, and convert.

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Those leads and prospects from being just a prospect to being a customer.

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Another Columbus state is just.

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Failing to spot the signals of a potential lead.

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So there might be people out there that you are.

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Connected to in some way that or in your, your audience or your

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social media, following the AR.

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Raising their hand, maybe giving off some kind of signals.

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You've got to learn to be able to spot those.

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There are different signals that people can give to indicate a

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possible interest in working with you, or at least somebody like you.

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The may have recently followed you on social media, or maybe they've even

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followed one of your competitors.

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That's another indication that they might be looking for somebody like you.

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They might have likes shared or commented.

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On one of your social media posts or accepted a connection request with you.

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Maybe they've opened an email newsletter and clicks one of the links.

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If you have an email list that you've been emailing regularly.

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Or maybe they've been on your website and downloaded your

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client brochure or price guide.

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Maybe they've entered a survey, a poll or a recent competition that you've

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run, or maybe they've just asked a question in a group about extending,

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renovating or working with an architect.

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All of these things are little signals.

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Triggers or what's sometimes called hand-raisers that signal to you.

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That this person may, at some point in the not too distant future, but interested.

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In working with you.

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Remember.

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Don't forget to download the architecture business, blueprint the

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and architecture designers.

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Now, back to the show.

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Another common mistake is just not following up with people or

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having a method to track the leads.

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One of the things that you might've heard people talk about is having a CRM system.

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So this is a CRM stands for, I think it's like customer relationship management or

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client relationship management system.

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And really what this is.

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It's just having a method or system to be able to track those leads

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and to make sure that you don't forget to follow up with them.

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And this can be something really simple.

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There are a number of software packages that you can subscribe to that are

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specific CRM systems or sales pipelines, you can pay anything from 10 to 20 pounds

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a month, right through to hundreds of pounds a month for one of these systems.

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Or you can use something like a task management system.

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You might've heard of some of those, like Click up a sauna.

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Trello notion.

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All of those are software systems that allow you to set up your own

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simple CRM, using that platform as a method of doing that and sort of

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those do offer free plans that you can use, or, it can be as simple as.

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Google sheets or.

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An Excel spreadsheet doesn't have to be anything complicated.

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I think it's just a case of finding something that you can

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use that you're going to find.

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Easy to keep updated.

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And that it aligns with your available budget.

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So if you don't have much money spare right now, that may be something

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like a Google sheet or just an Excel spreadsheet is the way to go.

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So just think about each step or stage that your lead needs to

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go through from when you first identify them as a lead, right?

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The way through to becoming a customer.

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List them out typically it's like from left to, right.

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So for example, On the left-hand side, it might be spotting the new lead.

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And then as you progress from left to right, it might be

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messaging them, getting a reply.

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Having a conversation, qualifying them as a good fit, inviting them to a call,

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et cetera, et cetera, all the way to them becoming a pain client or customer.

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And your aim is just to keep adding leads into your CRM system and moving

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those leads from the left-hand side of that table, over to the right hand

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side, where they become customers.

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Simple right.

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Why aren't we all doing this?

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So To move on now to just some examples.

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I'm just going to share just a couple of tactics, really, and an all of

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these things, all of these things that we see people doing from posting on

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social media to email campaigns, to running events and competitions there.

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They're all just tactics that the trick, I guess, is.

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Making sure that the tactics that you choose aligned with that business strategy

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that we talked about those business goals, because if you are, , nurturing a.

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An audience of subscribers on your email list for some training program that

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you're launching at the end of the year or group program for home renovators to,

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, guide them through extending their home.

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The tactics that you'd use for that are going to be very

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different for somebody that is.

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Just wanting to fill.

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The one-to-one slots for the next month.

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So you might have a gap on your calendar this month.

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You might need a new client and you might have several days available

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to work on a design to support somebody with a drawing package.

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Or maybe even to do some subcontract work for another practice.

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That's going to be a very different strategy from the person that's

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launching the course or group program later in the year.

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So one example, tactic to generate and nurture a cold lead.

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That might be something like say creating a long, long form piece of content.

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So this could be something like writing a blog article.

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Or case study that you can post on your website or perhaps creating a video.

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That addresses one of the main pain points that your service solves, or

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one of the desires talks about the desires that your service helps fulfill.

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So an example might be something like.

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Seven common myths about extending your home or 10 things to consider

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before you decide to renovate or.

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, X number of things to think about before you, , Choose an architect,

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something along those lines.

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What you can then do is snip out segments from that blog or

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video or article and use those.

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Repurpose those to create a series of social media, captions

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graphics, reels that you can post.

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Over repeat over a given time period to help.

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Peak people's interests.

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You can then start engaging with the people that have liked.

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Shared or commented on those posts sent.

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Ultimately start conversations, nurture those relationships and

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eventually get them on a call.

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An example, tactic for a hot lead.

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The hot lead is typically either current or previous customer of yours.

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Or somebody who already knows likes and trusts you.

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This is typically.

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In the cases where you need fast sales.

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These are the people that you should focus on.

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I've thought a hot lead that you wouldn't normally expect to get results from.

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The interactions you have with somebody after posting a blog or a social

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media posts for hot leads, you're typically going to do some high touch.

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Proactive outreach.

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These can be things like picking up the phone could be calling

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past clients or people that you have in your existing network that

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potentially may need some extra help.

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That could even be a friendly competitor.

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Past colleague that you used to work with a practice that you used to work out.

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So maybe even your past employer.

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Call them up.

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You can check in with them.

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Have a catcher part of a coffee.

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Whether that's in person or virtual coffee online, find out the things

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that they're working on and find out if they need any extra support or help

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with anything you might be surprised.

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You might just be able to plug that gap on your calendar.

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This is something that I did a few years back.

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I had a lean period.

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One winter, I looked at my calendar and thought, wow, I don't really have much

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work on, on the lead up to Christmas.

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I thought, what, what is the fastest way that I can fill that gap?

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The fastest way was just being a little bit vocal about

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it and letting people know.

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But I had this gap in my diary and I knew there was going to be other people out

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there, particularly at other practices that were busier than I was at that time.

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So I contacted them.

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I emailed a few practices that I had a working relationship with already.

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I spoke to some people that I've worked with in the past

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that had their own practice.

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And I just said, Hey guys, As things happened.

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I I've got a gap.

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I've got a gap this coming month that I want to fail.

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And before I reach out to anybody else, I just wanted to reach out to you and see.

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If you needed any extra support.

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, if you're busy, Let's have a chat and see if there's any way that I can help you.

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If you have an email list, you can send out short sales campaign over a series of

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days with a simple time sensitive offer.

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And if you do post a social media, You can make it more of a sales post.

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So rather than, , posting.

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Value based content.

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So, so maybe previously, if you've been sharing your blog that you've written,

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or, or maybe you have been sharing some graphics or images, photos of a completed

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projects or something you're working on making it more of a sales post.

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Be explicit about it.

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Tell everybody you have a gap in your calendar that you're looking to fail.

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And I would share any natural urgency that already exists.

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If you're a sole practitioner or if you're a micro sized practice.

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There is natural urgency already because you you've only got so many hours

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available to fill, to serve your clients.

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One-to-one so already there is some natural urgency.

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There there's some scarcity.

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Mentioned that in the post or the emails or those conversations tell

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people that you only have X number of hours or days or slots free to film.

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I think the main thing that I'd like to take away from this is that.

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Conversations lead to conversions.

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So if you're looking to convert, some of those leads into customers.

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That really that's the main thing is that you need to look for those little

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triggers, those signals of intent.

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To move people from just liking your social media post or

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clicking on a link in your email.

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You need to look to find ways.

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To have conversations with those people.

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Whether that is in-person.

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Over the phone or to begin with, it might even just be in the

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comments of a social media post.

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Or moving it from a comment in the social media post to your direct messages, and

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then moving them over to a conversation over the phone or Zen, or even in person.

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So hope that's been helpful.

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There's absolutely no way that I could cover.

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Every single different tactic and strategy around lead generation

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in one short podcast episode.

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But hopefully that's given a helpful overview to a few of the

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things that you should consider.

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And just one or two tactics that you can use to generate a few

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new leads for your practice.

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The topic of today's episode on lead generation was suggested by

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listeners, Rachel Reed and Ash Wilson.

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So I just wanted to give them a share sale if anybody else has got

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any other suggestions for topics for forthcoming episodes, then

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please get in touch and let me know.

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Next time.

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I'll be talking to Rhonda Jackson about getting paid on time and recovering debts.

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