Do you wish you had a consistent stream of leads
Jon Clayton:coming into your business without spending money on paid ads?
Jon Clayton:That's exactly what I'm going to be chatting about in this
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Jon Clayton:Now let's discuss lead generation.
Jon Clayton:Hey, everybody.
Jon Clayton:Welcome to the show today.
Jon Clayton:I've got something to talk about today, which I hope is going to
Jon Clayton:be really helpful for everybody.
Jon Clayton:We're going to be talking about lead generation, so how we can
Jon Clayton:generate new leads for our business.
Jon Clayton:So I wanted to kind of.
Jon Clayton:Get back to basics to begin with and talk about.
Jon Clayton:What is a lead.
Jon Clayton:So a lead is essentially, it's a person who has expressed an interest in the
Jon Clayton:product or service that you sell.
Jon Clayton:So, so in essence, they are.
Jon Clayton:A potential customer.
Jon Clayton:And lead generation.
Jon Clayton:That is the, the process of identifying and cultivating those
Jon Clayton:potential customers or your prospects.
Jon Clayton:That might be interested in buying your products and services.
Jon Clayton:That you sell.
Jon Clayton:So why is it so important?
Jon Clayton:Well, lead generation is really important because.
Jon Clayton:If you aren't able to generate a consistent stream of leads each month.
Jon Clayton:Your business is going to go through cycles of feast and famine.
Jon Clayton:So that's either not having enough clients or just having too much
Jon Clayton:work to handle at a given point.
Jon Clayton:And.
Jon Clayton:Both of these things that they can play havoc with your cashflow.
Jon Clayton:Your time management.
Jon Clayton:And ultimately make it really difficult to grow your business.
Jon Clayton:So what common myths are there about lead generation?
Jon Clayton:There are quite a few,
Jon Clayton:I'm just going to summarize some of the main points that I feel are the
Jon Clayton:main myths around lead generation, firstly, that, that you don't
Jon Clayton:need to do in a lead generation.
Jon Clayton:If you already have clients.
Jon Clayton:And that if you have a website and perhaps a peer in a few business directories
Jon Clayton:online, like Google maps, yelp.com back cetera, that the leads will just
Jon Clayton:keep coming in automatically over time.
Jon Clayton:And that posting your work on social media counts as lead generation.
Jon Clayton:There are different types of leads.
Jon Clayton:And I think this is an important distinction to make, particularly
Jon Clayton:between inbound and outbound leads and what the differences are.
Jon Clayton:So.
Jon Clayton:What is an inbound lead?
Jon Clayton:An inbound lead are the ones that come to you first.
Jon Clayton:So these are the ones that just seem to trickle in naturally the,
Jon Clayton:they might have discovered you via a Google search and maybe.
Jon Clayton:Stumbled across your Google business listing, or maybe they've, they've
Jon Clayton:been looking online for a local architect or practice and they've
Jon Clayton:stumbled across your website.
Jon Clayton:Or maybe randomly found a social media post that you put out there.
Jon Clayton:There may be a referral from a friend or a past client.
Jon Clayton:These are the leads that most businesses rely on.
Jon Clayton:As your approach to them is passive.
Jon Clayton:Basically you just, you do sitting back and relaxing.
Jon Clayton:Getting along with your other things that you're working on and
Jon Clayton:waiting for them to contact you.
Jon Clayton:So you're waiting for the phone to ring you, just waiting
Jon Clayton:for the email inquiry or.
Jon Clayton:Somebody to fill in your website, contact form.
Jon Clayton:So this is the approach that.
Jon Clayton:Many practices take, especially so practitioners and micro sized
Jon Clayton:practices that may not need to have many clients to stay in business.
Jon Clayton:Or perhaps those practices who are situated in a location where the demand
Jon Clayton:for architectural services or for their particular area of expertise.
Jon Clayton:Outstrips the local supply.
Jon Clayton:So that could be perhaps if there had a very specific niche,
Jon Clayton:something quite unusual in architecture that they did that.
Jon Clayton:The parts aren't many other businesses locally that do it.
Jon Clayton:The thing with the, with inbound leads is you, have, you got no control over the
Jon Clayton:volume and consistency of inbound leads.
Jon Clayton:So problems can occur.
Jon Clayton:When in braille, inbound leads naturally slow down, perhaps due
Jon Clayton:to a change in the wider economy.
Jon Clayton:Increasing prices.
Jon Clayton:Or perhaps new competitors in your area or your chosen niche.
Jon Clayton:Or problems can occur if you're wanting to grow your practice and
Jon Clayton:you find yourself in a position where you need to bring in a high number
Jon Clayton:of leads every month than before.
Jon Clayton:Then what naturally filtered in previously?
Jon Clayton:So what is an outbound lead to an outbound lead?
Jon Clayton:Is a sales lead that you contact first.
Jon Clayton:So this could be for a variety of ways.
Jon Clayton:It could be.
Jon Clayton:Depending on the types of client you work with, it could
Jon Clayton:be cold calling direct mail.
Jon Clayton:Advertising could be through an event, email campaign, content marketing, or
Jon Clayton:even a social media campaign or, or reaching out to them through social media.
Jon Clayton:This is something that you can actively do any time you have more control in
Jon Clayton:generating outbound leads than inbound.
Jon Clayton:And this is really what lead generation is all about.
Jon Clayton:And perhaps then the main thing that I want to talk about today.
Jon Clayton:So what are the first steps in generating outbound leads?
Jon Clayton:There are many different ways to generate outbound leads and to nurture them.
Jon Clayton:But, before you rush off to put up that big advertising billboard
Jon Clayton:or spend hundreds of pounds or dollars on Facebook ads, The first
Jon Clayton:thing you need is a strategy.
Jon Clayton:Firstly, I would consider your business strategy first, before you think
Jon Clayton:about any lead generation strategy.
Jon Clayton:I have a think about what those income goals are and what services that you plan
Jon Clayton:to be selling over the coming months.
Jon Clayton:How many packages do you need to sell?
Jon Clayton:How many new clients do you need?
Jon Clayton:Once you're clear on that.
Jon Clayton:You can then think about the best approach to generate leads based on your
Jon Clayton:business strategy for the coming months.
Jon Clayton:There are three types of leads that, that you're really going to
Jon Clayton:need, depending on how far along they are in their journey with you.
Jon Clayton:And these are cold, warm, and hot leads.
Jon Clayton:I'm going to use an analogy here.
Jon Clayton:I'm a big music fan.
Jon Clayton:So.
Jon Clayton:Let's just imagine you're in a rock band on your you're going on your next tour
Jon Clayton:and you, you want to sell out every venue.
Jon Clayton:Your cold leads don't yet know about you.
Jon Clayton:They've never heard of your band.
Jon Clayton:Or they've never heard any of your music, so to help them discover you.
Jon Clayton:You may need to create content online, like social media posts,
Jon Clayton:maybe write some blog articles or share your music on Spotify.
Jon Clayton:Or apple for them to find.
Jon Clayton:Your warm leads are already connected to you some way they are a little
Jon Clayton:bit more familiar with what you do.
Jon Clayton:They may have listened to a few of your songs already.
Jon Clayton:Maybe they follow you on Instagram or have signed up to your weekly
Jon Clayton:email newsletter to hear about your latest album or your tour.
Jon Clayton:And your hot leads are your big fans.
Jon Clayton:They are.
Jon Clayton:Typically your past customers.
Jon Clayton:So they've bought your albums.
Jon Clayton:They've paid to see you in concert before.
Jon Clayton:Maybe they've even bought the t-shirt.
Jon Clayton:They are the people that are most likely to buy a ticket for your upcoming tour.
Jon Clayton:So if you need new customers fast, these are usually the best people to focus on.
Jon Clayton:So your hot leads are the most likely to buy soon.
Jon Clayton:Your cold leads are the least likely.
Jon Clayton:So you're going to need to nurture them for longer.
Jon Clayton:To get a sale from someone that's a cold lead.
Jon Clayton:So let's talk a little bit about some of the common mistakes.
Jon Clayton:Well, one of them is focusing too much of your time, money and
Jon Clayton:resources on marketing activities that are best suited to cold leads.
Jon Clayton:So remember those are the ones that need the most nurturing that are
Jon Clayton:least likely to buy any time soon.
Jon Clayton:They're going to take the longest time to convert into a paying customer.
Jon Clayton:And the sorts of activities that you might be doing for those leads are things like
Jon Clayton:posting to social media, writing a blog.
Jon Clayton:Writing case studies, adding glossy photos of finished.
Jon Clayton:Renovations and buildings to your portfolio, or maybe running paid ads.
Jon Clayton:Often we focus on these things as they can feel more comfortable to do.
Jon Clayton:And you can still feel like you've accomplished something if you do though.
Jon Clayton:I mean, it's almost a form of.
Jon Clayton:Procrastination.
Jon Clayton:And feeding, like you're doing something that is contributing towards
Jon Clayton:generating leads and getting sales.
Jon Clayton:That doesn't feel anywhere near as uncomfortable as reaching out to somebody
Jon Clayton:personally or getting on the phone with them and having a conversation.
Jon Clayton:Another mistake is just not Jeweling time for lead generation.
Jon Clayton:I'm a big believer that if things aren't scheduled, that they don't get done.
Jon Clayton:So, if you want to generate leads for your business, you're going to have to schedule
Jon Clayton:some time to do it and try and make it.
Jon Clayton:A regular habit.
Jon Clayton:So try and set aside some time each week to generate a nurture leads and
Jon Clayton:depending on the position you're at and how many leads do you need to generate?
Jon Clayton:That's going to have a bearing on how much time you need to set aside.
Jon Clayton:Another mistake is being just reactive rather than proactive.
Jon Clayton:You tend to be reactive to inbound leads.
Jon Clayton:You, you sit around and wait for them to come in.
Jon Clayton:And then as, and when the lead comes in, you react to it.
Jon Clayton:You get, try to get them to make the next step, whether that's booking a sales call
Jon Clayton:or you start the conversation with them.
Jon Clayton:But if you want to generate outbound leads and you're looking for more
Jon Clayton:consistency with lead generation, you really need to be more proactive.
Jon Clayton:The reactive.
Jon Clayton:You've got to do the work to attract, connect, nurture, and convert.
Jon Clayton:Those leads and prospects from being just a prospect to being a customer.
Jon Clayton:Another Columbus state is just.
Jon Clayton:Failing to spot the signals of a potential lead.
Jon Clayton:So there might be people out there that you are.
Jon Clayton:Connected to in some way that or in your, your audience or your
Jon Clayton:social media, following the AR.
Jon Clayton:Raising their hand, maybe giving off some kind of signals.
Jon Clayton:You've got to learn to be able to spot those.
Jon Clayton:There are different signals that people can give to indicate a
Jon Clayton:possible interest in working with you, or at least somebody like you.
Jon Clayton:The may have recently followed you on social media, or maybe they've even
Jon Clayton:followed one of your competitors.
Jon Clayton:That's another indication that they might be looking for somebody like you.
Jon Clayton:They might have likes shared or commented.
Jon Clayton:On one of your social media posts or accepted a connection request with you.
Jon Clayton:Maybe they've opened an email newsletter and clicks one of the links.
Jon Clayton:If you have an email list that you've been emailing regularly.
Jon Clayton:Or maybe they've been on your website and downloaded your
Jon Clayton:client brochure or price guide.
Jon Clayton:Maybe they've entered a survey, a poll or a recent competition that you've
Jon Clayton:run, or maybe they've just asked a question in a group about extending,
Jon Clayton:renovating or working with an architect.
Jon Clayton:All of these things are little signals.
Jon Clayton:Triggers or what's sometimes called hand-raisers that signal to you.
Jon Clayton:That this person may, at some point in the not too distant future, but interested.
Jon Clayton:In working with you.
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Jon Clayton:Another common mistake is just not following up with people or
Jon Clayton:having a method to track the leads.
Jon Clayton:One of the things that you might've heard people talk about is having a CRM system.
Jon Clayton:So this is a CRM stands for, I think it's like customer relationship management or
Jon Clayton:client relationship management system.
Jon Clayton:And really what this is.
Jon Clayton:It's just having a method or system to be able to track those leads
Jon Clayton:and to make sure that you don't forget to follow up with them.
Jon Clayton:And this can be something really simple.
Jon Clayton:There are a number of software packages that you can subscribe to that are
Jon Clayton:specific CRM systems or sales pipelines, you can pay anything from 10 to 20 pounds
Jon Clayton:a month, right through to hundreds of pounds a month for one of these systems.
Jon Clayton:Or you can use something like a task management system.
Jon Clayton:You might've heard of some of those, like Click up a sauna.
Jon Clayton:Trello notion.
Jon Clayton:All of those are software systems that allow you to set up your own
Jon Clayton:simple CRM, using that platform as a method of doing that and sort of
Jon Clayton:those do offer free plans that you can use, or, it can be as simple as.
Jon Clayton:Google sheets or.
Jon Clayton:An Excel spreadsheet doesn't have to be anything complicated.
Jon Clayton:I think it's just a case of finding something that you can
Jon Clayton:use that you're going to find.
Jon Clayton:Easy to keep updated.
Jon Clayton:And that it aligns with your available budget.
Jon Clayton:So if you don't have much money spare right now, that may be something
Jon Clayton:like a Google sheet or just an Excel spreadsheet is the way to go.
Jon Clayton:So just think about each step or stage that your lead needs to
Jon Clayton:go through from when you first identify them as a lead, right?
Jon Clayton:The way through to becoming a customer.
Jon Clayton:List them out typically it's like from left to, right.
Jon Clayton:So for example, On the left-hand side, it might be spotting the new lead.
Jon Clayton:And then as you progress from left to right, it might be
Jon Clayton:messaging them, getting a reply.
Jon Clayton:Having a conversation, qualifying them as a good fit, inviting them to a call,
Jon Clayton:et cetera, et cetera, all the way to them becoming a pain client or customer.
Jon Clayton:And your aim is just to keep adding leads into your CRM system and moving
Jon Clayton:those leads from the left-hand side of that table, over to the right hand
Jon Clayton:side, where they become customers.
Jon Clayton:Simple right.
Jon Clayton:Why aren't we all doing this?
Jon Clayton:So To move on now to just some examples.
Jon Clayton:I'm just going to share just a couple of tactics, really, and an all of
Jon Clayton:these things, all of these things that we see people doing from posting on
Jon Clayton:social media to email campaigns, to running events and competitions there.
Jon Clayton:They're all just tactics that the trick, I guess, is.
Jon Clayton:Making sure that the tactics that you choose aligned with that business strategy
Jon Clayton:that we talked about those business goals, because if you are, , nurturing a.
Jon Clayton:An audience of subscribers on your email list for some training program that
Jon Clayton:you're launching at the end of the year or group program for home renovators to,
Jon Clayton:, guide them through extending their home.
Jon Clayton:The tactics that you'd use for that are going to be very
Jon Clayton:different for somebody that is.
Jon Clayton:Just wanting to fill.
Jon Clayton:The one-to-one slots for the next month.
Jon Clayton:So you might have a gap on your calendar this month.
Jon Clayton:You might need a new client and you might have several days available
Jon Clayton:to work on a design to support somebody with a drawing package.
Jon Clayton:Or maybe even to do some subcontract work for another practice.
Jon Clayton:That's going to be a very different strategy from the person that's
Jon Clayton:launching the course or group program later in the year.
Jon Clayton:So one example, tactic to generate and nurture a cold lead.
Jon Clayton:That might be something like say creating a long, long form piece of content.
Jon Clayton:So this could be something like writing a blog article.
Jon Clayton:Or case study that you can post on your website or perhaps creating a video.
Jon Clayton:That addresses one of the main pain points that your service solves, or
Jon Clayton:one of the desires talks about the desires that your service helps fulfill.
Jon Clayton:So an example might be something like.
Jon Clayton:Seven common myths about extending your home or 10 things to consider
Jon Clayton:before you decide to renovate or.
Jon Clayton:, X number of things to think about before you, , Choose an architect,
Jon Clayton:something along those lines.
Jon Clayton:What you can then do is snip out segments from that blog or
Jon Clayton:video or article and use those.
Jon Clayton:Repurpose those to create a series of social media, captions
Jon Clayton:graphics, reels that you can post.
Jon Clayton:Over repeat over a given time period to help.
Jon Clayton:Peak people's interests.
Jon Clayton:You can then start engaging with the people that have liked.
Jon Clayton:Shared or commented on those posts sent.
Jon Clayton:Ultimately start conversations, nurture those relationships and
Jon Clayton:eventually get them on a call.
Jon Clayton:An example, tactic for a hot lead.
Jon Clayton:The hot lead is typically either current or previous customer of yours.
Jon Clayton:Or somebody who already knows likes and trusts you.
Jon Clayton:This is typically.
Jon Clayton:In the cases where you need fast sales.
Jon Clayton:These are the people that you should focus on.
Jon Clayton:I've thought a hot lead that you wouldn't normally expect to get results from.
Jon Clayton:The interactions you have with somebody after posting a blog or a social
Jon Clayton:media posts for hot leads, you're typically going to do some high touch.
Jon Clayton:Proactive outreach.
Jon Clayton:These can be things like picking up the phone could be calling
Jon Clayton:past clients or people that you have in your existing network that
Jon Clayton:potentially may need some extra help.
Jon Clayton:That could even be a friendly competitor.
Jon Clayton:Past colleague that you used to work with a practice that you used to work out.
Jon Clayton:So maybe even your past employer.
Jon Clayton:Call them up.
Jon Clayton:You can check in with them.
Jon Clayton:Have a catcher part of a coffee.
Jon Clayton:Whether that's in person or virtual coffee online, find out the things
Jon Clayton:that they're working on and find out if they need any extra support or help
Jon Clayton:with anything you might be surprised.
Jon Clayton:You might just be able to plug that gap on your calendar.
Jon Clayton:This is something that I did a few years back.
Jon Clayton:I had a lean period.
Jon Clayton:One winter, I looked at my calendar and thought, wow, I don't really have much
Jon Clayton:work on, on the lead up to Christmas.
Jon Clayton:I thought, what, what is the fastest way that I can fill that gap?
Jon Clayton:The fastest way was just being a little bit vocal about
Jon Clayton:it and letting people know.
Jon Clayton:But I had this gap in my diary and I knew there was going to be other people out
Jon Clayton:there, particularly at other practices that were busier than I was at that time.
Jon Clayton:So I contacted them.
Jon Clayton:I emailed a few practices that I had a working relationship with already.
Jon Clayton:I spoke to some people that I've worked with in the past
Jon Clayton:that had their own practice.
Jon Clayton:And I just said, Hey guys, As things happened.
Jon Clayton:I I've got a gap.
Jon Clayton:I've got a gap this coming month that I want to fail.
Jon Clayton:And before I reach out to anybody else, I just wanted to reach out to you and see.
Jon Clayton:If you needed any extra support.
Jon Clayton:, if you're busy, Let's have a chat and see if there's any way that I can help you.
Jon Clayton:If you have an email list, you can send out short sales campaign over a series of
Jon Clayton:days with a simple time sensitive offer.
Jon Clayton:And if you do post a social media, You can make it more of a sales post.
Jon Clayton:So rather than, , posting.
Jon Clayton:Value based content.
Jon Clayton:So, so maybe previously, if you've been sharing your blog that you've written,
Jon Clayton:or, or maybe you have been sharing some graphics or images, photos of a completed
Jon Clayton:projects or something you're working on making it more of a sales post.
Jon Clayton:Be explicit about it.
Jon Clayton:Tell everybody you have a gap in your calendar that you're looking to fail.
Jon Clayton:And I would share any natural urgency that already exists.
Jon Clayton:If you're a sole practitioner or if you're a micro sized practice.
Jon Clayton:There is natural urgency already because you you've only got so many hours
Jon Clayton:available to fill, to serve your clients.
Jon Clayton:One-to-one so already there is some natural urgency.
Jon Clayton:There there's some scarcity.
Jon Clayton:Mentioned that in the post or the emails or those conversations tell
Jon Clayton:people that you only have X number of hours or days or slots free to film.
Jon Clayton:I think the main thing that I'd like to take away from this is that.
Jon Clayton:Conversations lead to conversions.
Jon Clayton:So if you're looking to convert, some of those leads into customers.
Jon Clayton:That really that's the main thing is that you need to look for those little
Jon Clayton:triggers, those signals of intent.
Jon Clayton:To move people from just liking your social media post or
Jon Clayton:clicking on a link in your email.
Jon Clayton:You need to look to find ways.
Jon Clayton:To have conversations with those people.
Jon Clayton:Whether that is in-person.
Jon Clayton:Over the phone or to begin with, it might even just be in the
Jon Clayton:comments of a social media post.
Jon Clayton:Or moving it from a comment in the social media post to your direct messages, and
Jon Clayton:then moving them over to a conversation over the phone or Zen, or even in person.
Jon Clayton:So hope that's been helpful.
Jon Clayton:There's absolutely no way that I could cover.
Jon Clayton:Every single different tactic and strategy around lead generation
Jon Clayton:in one short podcast episode.
Jon Clayton:But hopefully that's given a helpful overview to a few of the
Jon Clayton:things that you should consider.
Jon Clayton:And just one or two tactics that you can use to generate a few
Jon Clayton:new leads for your practice.
Jon Clayton:The topic of today's episode on lead generation was suggested by
Jon Clayton:listeners, Rachel Reed and Ash Wilson.
Jon Clayton:So I just wanted to give them a share sale if anybody else has got
Jon Clayton:any other suggestions for topics for forthcoming episodes, then
Jon Clayton:please get in touch and let me know.
Jon Clayton:Next time.
Jon Clayton:I'll be talking to Rhonda Jackson about getting paid on time and recovering debts.
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