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Dennis:Leah, my, I'm Dennis Collins and there's Leah.
Dennis:Hi Leah.
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Dennis:Or your money back, right?
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Dennis:Is that what you're saying?
Leah:Well, I don't know.
Leah:I watch the news.
Leah:That's all I'm going to say.
Dennis:Oh, boy.
Dennis:That hurts.
Dennis:A deep stab by our Canadian so called friend here.
Dennis:Hey, well, you know what?
Dennis:Maybe this is an apropos topic today.
Dennis:We're going to talk about what I call the I knew it all along bias.
Dennis:I told you it's the, I told you so.
Dennis:Bias, you know, as you know, Leah, I'm a, I'm a nerd.
Dennis:I'm a big fan of studying cognitive biases.
Dennis:There are over 200 known cognitive biases.
Dennis:Okay?
Dennis:I promise you, you, I'm not gonna list all 200 today, but I have a couple favorites.
Dennis:Okay?
Dennis:So let me give you a story first to start this off.
Dennis:An event has taken place, okay?
Dennis:You had no way really to accurately predict in advance what the outcome
Dennis:would be, but after it actually happens, you are very certain that
Dennis:you really knew the outcome all along, way before it ever happened.
Dennis:Okay.
Dennis:I got, I got a story about that.
Dennis:Back in my radio days in Miami, we bought a station.
Dennis:That was in a oldies type music format, and there was another station that also
Dennis:had an oldies format, but we knew when we bought the station, there was only
Dennis:room for one oldies format in the market.
Dennis:Right.
Dennis:So we bought it with with that in mind, and we told ourselves, okay, um,
Dennis:That, you know, we needed to somehow figure out a way to get them out of it.
Dennis:Okay, that was no easy task getting a company to change a format is a big deal.
Dennis:It's a really big deal.
Dennis:Okay.
Dennis:So eventually, the day comes, and they do it.
Dennis:They switched to a country music format.
Dennis:Wow.
Dennis:Leaving us the only Oli station in the market.
Dennis:So guess what we said?
Dennis:We knew it all along.
Dennis:Okay?
Dennis:We told you so.
Dennis:That was going to happen.
Dennis:Really?
Dennis:We didn't know it.
Dennis:Okay.
Dennis:But isn't that an, yeah, that's called the hindsight bias, but
Dennis:there are hundreds of biases.
Dennis:Uh, what, what's your favorite bias?
Dennis:Leah?
Dennis:You probably have a couple biases.
Dennis:You.
Leah:No, I'm not really a biased kind of a person.
Leah:I'm not that, that's not my thing.
Leah:I'm, I'm very open-minded.
Leah:I like to, you know, as you know, look at, look, look at the heart of the matter
Leah:and then make a decision based on that.
Leah:But no, I don't think maybe when it comes to wizard academy because they sponsor us.
Leah:I mean, I love wizard academy, but, uh, so,
Dennis:so you don't have any cognitive biases, but you are by
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Leah:And of course, Dennis, I'm teasing because even, even when we're
Leah:kibitzing at the beginning of our, of our podcast, and I'm teasing you
Leah:a little bit about American banking.
Leah:I mean, we have biases based on what we read on the people we
Leah:know on our personal preferences.
Leah:When it comes, why are there so many restaurants out there?
Leah:That's a, that's a form of bias.
Leah:I like this flavor.
Leah:You like that flavor, which Mexican restaurant is the best.
Leah:You cannot avoid it.
Leah:And if you have someone who's telling you, Oh no, I don't have biases.
Leah:Wow.
Leah:Be very wary.
Dennis:Yep.
Dennis:For sure.
Dennis:They actually have a name for that one.
Dennis:It's called the bias blind spot.
Dennis:This bias causes people to, they can easily recognize cognitive biases in
Dennis:other people, but they fail to see the impact biases have on their own judgment.
Dennis:They have a bias.
Dennis:for the non bias bias.
Dennis:So how about that?
Dennis:We tend to believe that our own perceptions and judgments are
Dennis:rational, are accurate, free from bias.
Dennis:I got a newsflash, Leah.
Dennis:If we're human, and I think we are, we're all susceptible to cognitive
Dennis:biases that can distort our thinking, especially when we're not aware.
Dennis:I think the first step in this is just say acknowledge the fact that
Dennis:we're biased and it's a blind spot.
Dennis:We don't see it, but we can take steps to critically examine thought processes.
Dennis:We can seek outside perspectives.
Dennis:We can use tools and strategies.
Dennis:There's a lot of things we can and should do to eliminate it.
Dennis:So what, what, what is the impact of hindsight bias on a small business?
Dennis:Well.
Dennis:Basically, it's, it's the tendency to perceive past events as
Dennis:having been more predictable than they actually were at the time.
Dennis:Of course, that's after, you know, hindsight, you know,
Dennis:is always 20 20, as they say.
Dennis:After an event has occurred, we have more information.
Dennis:We know, you know, more than we did before it occurred.
Dennis:So, oh yeah, I knew that was going to happen.
Dennis:That's, that was predictable.
Dennis:I saw that coming.
Dennis:Um, do you ever have that feeling, Leah?
Dennis:I knew it all along.
Dennis:Does that resonate with you?
Leah:Absolutely.
Leah:And, and we, we want to have that.
Leah:We want to have that Gnostic knowledge.
Leah:We want to be able to think, okay, when I make a decision, I'm very logical.
Leah:I'm very, you know, I'm basing it on all of this information.
Leah:But you said it best, Dennis, a lot of that information wasn't
Leah:available prior to it being hindsight.
Leah:If the information is all laid out in front of us, What are we going to do?
Leah:We're going to create a bias based on that information.
Leah:When there's new information that is suddenly relevant,
Leah:we're going to change the bias.
Leah:It's the human condition.
Dennis:Why is that, you know, why is that dangerous in business?
Dennis:Well, when a company succeeds or fails, people often look back and
Dennis:point to the factors that they believe made the outcome obvious.
Dennis:Well, of course, now it's obvious.
Dennis:How about Apple's success?
Dennis:With the iPhone, you know, everybody's excited about the iPhone to this day.
Dennis:It's one of the most coveted things that you can have many.
Dennis:Um, at first claim, the product success was inevitable.
Dennis:I don't know if you remember.
Dennis:It was not inevitable.
Dennis:Okay.
Dennis:There was a lot of skepticism.
Dennis:There was a lot of question.
Dennis:What is this iPhone?
Dennis:Who is this guy jobs?
Dennis:What is this stuff all about?
Dennis:There was uncertainty about its launch, but of course hindsight biases.
Dennis:Oh yeah, we knew that was going to happen.
Dennis:We knew that we knew it all along.
Dennis:How about let's talk politics for a minute.
Dennis:This will get us in trouble, won't it?
Dennis:Uh, the 2016 U.
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Dennis:presidential election.
Dennis:Now, I know you Canadians don't care what happens here, but
Leah:that was an interesting election.
Leah:It was.
Dennis:Many people claimed that Donald Trump's victory was inevitable, was
Dennis:obvious in hindsight, despite the polls, the pundits, the evidence suggesting
Dennis:Otherwise, in fact, it was quite a surprise on election night when the
Dennis:announcement was that Trump had won.
Dennis:But hindsight biases.
Dennis:Oh, I knew it all along.
Dennis:Interesting, isn't it?
Dennis:Yeah.
Dennis:Can't we have obviously another election year here in 2024 coming up later in 2024.
Dennis:Let's see what I hadn't heard.
Dennis:I know.
Dennis:I know.
Dennis:Well, the news doesn't travel up to Canada, you know, there's, but
Dennis:I'll keep, you know what, Lee, I'll keep you advised on that.
Dennis:I'll, I'll let you know.
Dennis:So what are the dangers?
Dennis:Okay.
Dennis:We know bias exists.
Dennis:We know hindsight bias exists.
Dennis:I can tell you from my own experience of running radio stations for all those
Dennis:years, When we failed to examine our past mistakes or our bad decisions
Dennis:by saying, well, that outcome was inevitable or predictable, that kind
Dennis:of gives up control, doesn't it?
Dennis:That kind of says, oh, well, nothing I can do about it.
Dennis:See, I have a strong belief in the concept of agency, not ad agencies, but agency.
Dennis:Agency, our ability to do something.
Dennis:about stuff.
Dennis:We can control some outcomes.
Dennis:Okay, we can fix bad judgments, poor decisions, past mistakes.
Dennis:But first of all, we have to accept the fact that they were not inevitable.
Dennis:Okay, there are things we can do once we accept that.
Dennis:It also is change resistant.
Dennis:A lot of businesses believe their current strategy, their current
Dennis:decisions, those are optimal.
Dennis:Those are the best decisions we can make based on past success.
Dennis:Dangerous, dangerous thinking.
Dennis:Have you had clients, have you done businesses that fall into that
Dennis:bias, uh, not really evaluating what happened in the past?
Leah:Absolutely.
Leah:And what it does is it mitigates personal responsibility.
Leah:When it comes to business, it's not always as a negative.
Leah:When positive stuff is happening, and I think of clients that I've helped with
Leah:advertising, the, the, it always breaks my heart when after a year of advertising,
Leah:they'll go, yeah, you know what?
Leah:We grew here and this happened and this happened.
Leah:That was going to happen anyway.
Leah:That really had nothing to do with what it is that we were doing.
Leah:That, that is just as much my fault as it is theirs for not recognizing
Leah:what happened because I didn't set them up to realize that that point
Leah:in the sand of what's going on.
Leah:I, I often like to take things away from the advertising or
Leah:the, the, um, business arena.
Leah:And let's look at, Personal responsibility in the areas like health.
Leah:How many people do you know that are not at their healthiest weight
Leah:will defend to the death the fact that they hardly eat anything?
Leah:They, they don't eat unhealthy.
Leah:They don't, they cannot figure out where this weight came from because they, it's
Leah:certainly not anything that they're doing, but if you take away, yeah, but if you
Leah:take away their opportunity for that bias, if you, if you pull it out of the equation
Leah:by forcing them to what take a, make a journal of what it is that they're eating.
Leah:They're in a state of shock.
Leah:I had no idea I was eating that much.
Leah:I didn't realize.
Leah:I didn't know.
Dennis:I eat 5, 000 calories a day?
Dennis:Oh!
Leah:And they thought they were on a starvation plan.
Leah:So by forcing the issue, it gets rid of that ability for them to, um,
Leah:just not know what's going on or to claim, not to have, be responsible.
Dennis:I like your take on that.
Dennis:The The kind of overlooking our accountability, just, well, there's
Dennis:nothing I could do about that.
Dennis:I knew it all along, uh, not a good place for a successful business owner to be.
Dennis:So we always like to issue a challenge, right?
Dennis:Yes.
Dennis:One of our, one of our closing remarks is also a challenge, a breakout challenge.
Dennis:We challenge you this coming week.
Dennis:Review your decision making process.
Dennis:Okay?
Dennis:Take a look at the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Dennis:All decisions.
Dennis:Okay?
Dennis:Review it.
Dennis:Don't say that they were all inevitable, because they're not.
Dennis:Some might be.
Dennis:Most aren't.
Dennis:What could you have done differently with decision A, B, or C that
Dennis:could have had a different outcome?
Dennis:Get a coach or consultant to evaluate your situation.
Dennis:It's awfully hard to see from inside the bottle.
Dennis:Okay?
Dennis:You can't read the label on the bottle from inside the bottle.
Dennis:Get someone you trust to give you an objective view of what's
Dennis:going on in your business.
Dennis:But by all means, challenge.
Dennis:Question your decision making process.
Dennis:Use a tool such as Edward De Bono's Six Thinking Hats.
Dennis:Six thinking hats.
Dennis:We'll do a podcast on that one day.
Dennis:Interesting.
Dennis:Easy process.
Dennis:Easy process to learn.
Dennis:Easy to use.
Dennis:Game changer.
Dennis:When it comes to decision making.
Dennis:Game changer.
Dennis:Okay.
Dennis:Let's do that.
Dennis:So do we have, do we have any questions that have come in by any chance?
Dennis:We try to answer any questions, uh, that our viewers, listeners send us.
Dennis:Uh, I, I don't know if we have any, Leah, do you see any?
Dennis:No.
Dennis:Okay.
Dennis:Okay.
Leah:Well, I know we have a few that we're going to be actually building
Leah:into podcasts because they're not to be answered just in 30 seconds.
Leah:So we're not going to just, we're not just going to dabble in the answering.
Leah:We're going to, we're going to give some definite ones.
Leah:So that's why you got to stay tuned.
Leah:We're getting there.
Dennis:We're going to give you the, we're going to give you the meat.
Dennis:Right.
Dennis:Where's the meat?
Dennis:The meat's right here, right?
Dennis:Absolutely.
Dennis:As always, I've enjoyed this time together.
Dennis:I hope our audience has enjoyed it.
Dennis:Please write in.
Dennis:Please, uh, talk to us.
Dennis:Send us emails.
Dennis:We'd love to get them ask a question.
Dennis:We'll put you on the podcast.
Dennis:Okay, but for now Leah Bumfrey and Dennis Collins signing off for
Dennis:this episode of connect and convert the sales Accelerator podcast.
Dennis:See you next time