Let's talk about the role and the power and the importance of
Speaker:women in public transportation.
Speaker:I'm Paul Comfort, and on this episode of Transit Unplugged, we take you to a live
Speaker:interview conducted at the TRB Conference in Washington, DC with Bridgette Beato.
Speaker:She's the chair of WTS, the Women Transportation Seminar, the largest
Speaker:women's group in public transportation, and we dive into the role that this
Speaker:organization plays in promoting women in transit, the importance
Speaker:of having them represented in the top positions in our industry.
Speaker:And we also talk about the role of mentoring and how to maneuver your
Speaker:career in public transportation.
Speaker:It's a really powerful, interesting interview.
Speaker:I think you'll find fascinating with Bridgette Beato, who not
Speaker:only is chair of WTS, but she also owns her own very successful
Speaker:business Lumenor Consulting Group.
Speaker:Let's listen to this conversation now with Bridgette recorded live at TRB.
Speaker:We're excited to be at the Washington DC Convention Center in downtown
Speaker:Washington at the Transportation Research Board Conference, and I am
Speaker:with my good friend, Bridgette Beato.
Speaker:Bridgette, thanks for doing the show today.
Speaker:Thank you so much, Paul.
Speaker:I'm excited to be here and talk with you.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:This is our, Fantastic February we're some of the top guests in the country
Speaker:on our show, and, you're chair of WTS.
Speaker:Tell us what is WTS?
Speaker:WTS is Women's Transportation Seminar and everybody who knows us simply as
Speaker:WTS, but I'd like to go a little bit into the background of that name.
Speaker:When we started the organization almost 50 years ago, women were not
Speaker:allowed to go to conferences, but they were allowed to attend seminars.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:It's unbelievable.
Speaker:Especially in these times right now.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But that meaning and that history, we refused to change the name
Speaker:because it's important to have that history as we move forward
Speaker:And tell us about the organization now.
Speaker:The organization is phenomenal.
Speaker:We have over 70 chapters.
Speaker:We have five more chapters in formation right now.
Speaker:We've truly expanded internationally.
Speaker:We have Canadian chapters and more growing.
Speaker:We have over 10,000 members, so it's been a really high growth area.
Speaker:But the key about WTS that I think is so important is, you know, our whole
Speaker:mission, it's attracting, advancing, and promoting women in transportation.
Speaker:And we do that through scholarship programs.
Speaker:We do that through training programs, networking, and,
Speaker:and creating opportunities for women to come into our industry.
Speaker:And we try to make sure that they stay.
Speaker:26% is the figure of women in our industry.
Speaker:So we still need to work to get that number up.
Speaker:That's interesting.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So speaking of your chapters and scholarships, you've got some
Speaker:amazing things going on there.
Speaker:So this is in February, so, but in December you have a chapter in Washington
Speaker:DC and they host a big holiday party, like a Christmas holiday party.
Speaker:And I've been going the last couple years because in my role at the executive
Speaker:director of the North American Transit Alliance, we give a scholarship.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:A $2,500 scholarship to a woman who is pursuing advanced education.
Speaker:Something related to transportation.
Speaker:Tell us about the scholarships and how all that works.
Speaker:The scholarships are amazing.
Speaker:So altogether, WTS has awarded just under a million dollars
Speaker:of scholarships last year.
Speaker:So it's significant.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:it's a large amount.
Speaker:And you have big sponsors like Boeing and all kinds of things like that?
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:We have many sponsors across the country.
Speaker:They happen at our chapter levels as well as the international level.
Speaker:And it really is, it's amazing.
Speaker:Some like you are for advanced education, others focus on people
Speaker:that are in trade schools, so we try to cover the full gamut.
Speaker:Oh, that's cool.
Speaker:I like that.
Speaker:We do it for both, you know, undergraduate as well as graduate programs.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We have training programs that go into the high school level, so we're
Speaker:really trying to attract these young women and bring them into the industry.
Speaker:And then after they're graduating, we work with them to get internships and to get
Speaker:jobs so they can stay in our industry.
Speaker:That's really good.
Speaker:Bridgette.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:the other thing I was gonna mention about that holiday party is, it's like
Speaker:the place to be in Washington, DC.
Speaker:Everybody's there from Randy Clark, the head of WMATA to FTA people.
Speaker:I mean, the WTS DC chapter is like creating something not just
Speaker:for women, so to speak, right.
Speaker:For an event like that.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And it really, it's, you know, the foundation.
Speaker:We wouldn't be making any changes if it weren't for the men that were there
Speaker:at the table and all of our chapters, we have awards where we recognize
Speaker:those men for the transformations that they're making, and all of our
Speaker:chapters have this amazing event.
Speaker:a lot of them call it a scholarship gala or an event.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:And sometimes it's coupled with a holiday party and it
Speaker:is definitely the place to be.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So just what you were saying that I just remembered back when I was
Speaker:CEO of MTA in Baltimore, I remember WTS put on like a big luncheon.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:There was probably like three or 400 people there.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And the Secretary of Transportation spoke, my boss and all that.
Speaker:I mean.
Speaker:You guys are big time.
Speaker:We, we do.
Speaker:I mean, I knew you were, but Yeah.
Speaker:Well, it's been amazing because, you know, we have support from the
Speaker:U.S. DOT, we have support from local DOT commissioners and secretaries.
Speaker:Is that right?
Speaker:How they support you?
Speaker:What do they do?
Speaker:So they've been supporting us with membership.
Speaker:They attend our events, they come and speak.
Speaker:We've had, different representatives and administrators
Speaker:that come and, speak to the.
Speaker:Scholarship recipients speak at our awards.
Speaker:They provide keynote.
Speaker:Just last night we had Seval Oz as our keynote speaker.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:At our chairs reception here at the TRB club.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:That was fun too, by the way.
Speaker:That was a packed room with all the power players here.
Speaker:It was.
Speaker:We were sold out once again.
Speaker:And so that's a thing that's really nice.
Speaker:And we like to host that at TRB because we see ourselves as a really good
Speaker:intersection across different modes.
Speaker:So whenever you're bringing everybody together, WTS is a great mechanism
Speaker:to bring together DOTs to transit agencies, ports, aviation, and so it's
Speaker:a nice organization where you can have people from all those different areas.
Speaker:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker:So what else do you all do?
Speaker:Let's say I'm a young woman and I wanna get involved.
Speaker:I say, oh, I never heard about this before.
Speaker:You know, and they hear me talking to you.
Speaker:What would she do if she wanted to get involved, like in a
Speaker:local chapter or whatever?
Speaker:You'd just show up and you.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Introduce yourself.
Speaker:You let somebody know that,
Speaker:is there like a membership fee or something, or,
Speaker:there are, there's, there's membership fees and we have them at different
Speaker:levels, ranging from student all the way up to executive career.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And there's different benefits that happen across each membership level.
Speaker:I think it's important whenever you go there, you just introduce yourself,
Speaker:let people know, and you will find yourself welcomed into a community.
Speaker:WTS has a saying, it's our code.
Speaker:If you ever need something, you call somebody.
Speaker:Anybody that's a WTS member.
Speaker:And you reach out to them and you ask for help and the WTS code is, you will
Speaker:always get a response to that phone call.
Speaker:Oh, that's good.
Speaker:And you'll have mentorship programs too, anything like that?
Speaker:We do.
Speaker:We have 'em at the chapter as well as the international level.
Speaker:And it's really wonderful.
Speaker:We have it for, all levels of leadership.
Speaker:So we have it from, we talked a little bit about the Transportation U
Speaker:program, which goes into high schools.
Speaker:We have it for emerging leaders, advancing leaders.
Speaker:We also have a women business owners round table.
Speaker:Where small businesses can get together and, learn from each other
Speaker:and go through mentorship programs.
Speaker:So there's a lot of opportunities to try and touch everyone
Speaker:across their career journeys.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:What about like, so, you know, with the podcast I talk to CEOs all the
Speaker:time and one of the things I think that maybe people don't realize is
Speaker:it is kind of lonely at the top.
Speaker:you're not gonna be openly vulnerable.
Speaker:A lot of times, you know, you go to a, a big national transportation conference.
Speaker:I won't say the name of those conferences, but everybody's got
Speaker:their chest puffed out and they're trying to be, you know, the, the best
Speaker:they can be and put on a good show.
Speaker:But, so let's say I'm somebody like a Leslie Richards or somebody
Speaker:who's at the CEO or C-Suite level, what benefits do they get from WTS?
Speaker:that's where we have our executive program.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And so we'll do executive women's round tables where just like you
Speaker:said, you have opportunities in, you know, more of a smaller setting.
Speaker:So talk about some of the things that you may not wanna be vulnerable about.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:In a, you know, a large conference setting where, like you said,
Speaker:people may be putting their high level presentation form forward.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:But that's one of the ways that we, you know, we do create those spaces where you
Speaker:can have the conversations and you can get the guidance, and you can get the support
Speaker:and really just talk through some of the challenges, because you're right, when
Speaker:you're at the top, there's not a whole lot of people that you can really go to.
Speaker:so today we're in 2026.
Speaker:What struggles are there now for women to get involved at the highest levels?
Speaker:It seems like you've kind of broken the glass ceiling when it comes to the CEO.
Speaker:The last few years there's been a lot of women CEOs appointed I've noted, and
Speaker:I've had a lot of 'em on the podcast.
Speaker:What other things are you all, do you feel like, you're working
Speaker:on your challenges or whatever?
Speaker:we do a lot of focus with women to say, you know, you've gotta raise your hand,
Speaker:you've gotta put yourself out there.
Speaker:Oh, that's good.
Speaker:And let it be known that you wanna have those career advancement opportunities
Speaker:and you need to, reach out to the people that you work with, your
Speaker:colleagues, your mentors, and really find that and create that journey.
Speaker:some people have started their careers and and shared that
Speaker:they just kind of go along.
Speaker:But you have to really create that plan.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's just like whenever you're running a business without a plan,
Speaker:you don't tend to achieve that.
Speaker:And it's the same thing with your career journeys.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Having that plan, letting people know that you're open to it and
Speaker:not waiting to be called on.
Speaker:Putting yourself out there to say, this is something that I want.
Speaker:And, asking people to help coach.
Speaker:It's remarkable in this industry how willing people are.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:To help each other.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:I have three thoughts on that.
Speaker:Let's talk about these a little bit.
Speaker:One is like the Andy Byford model of career planning.
Speaker:I've talked about this before on the show.
Speaker:Andy told me people know Andy, you know, the train daddy and all that stuff.
Speaker:So, he, you know, he started in London, then went to Toronto, was CEO
Speaker:there, then New York City, CEO there, then back to London, and now he's at
Speaker:Amtrak, helping to do Penn Station.
Speaker:and he told me he curated his career.
Speaker:He had a plan, he said, Paul, I knew I wanted to be the best CEO I
Speaker:could be so I did a couple years in safety, a couple years in operations,
Speaker:a couple years administration.
Speaker:So that's one model of careers.
Speaker:Let's talk about that.
Speaker:What do you think about that?
Speaker:That sounds like what you're encouraging women to look at is plan out your career.
Speaker:Don't just stay there.
Speaker:I, think so.
Speaker:I mean, and, and it's a great example and he's one that has been very open
Speaker:about having a plan that's very specific and very detailed and and defined.
Speaker:And I think that's definitely an option.
Speaker:And I think there's also things that, curve balls come along.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:That's what I wanted to talk about next.
Speaker:Let's go into that then.
Speaker:I'm more of the follow the river of life kind of guy.
Speaker:So, you know, I'm, I'm in this river, I'm feeling like I'm
Speaker:meeting the people I need to meet.
Speaker:You know, I'm, testing whether I'm in the right place based on, timing.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So, I remember one time I was at a conference, when I was in county
Speaker:management and I wanted to, talk to a guy about a job in a different
Speaker:county, and I'm walking outta this room with thousands of people and
Speaker:I feel led to walk out this door.
Speaker:I walk out, I literally bump right into him.
Speaker:He was leaving the conference.
Speaker:I wouldn't have seen him, and he's very hard to get on the phone.
Speaker:That to me is like a signal.
Speaker:Okay, I'm in the right place at the right time.
Speaker:I'm on the right path.
Speaker:What do you think about that as a career path model,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think that people live their lives in different ways.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And there's some people that are just open and looking at all times.
Speaker:What's an opportunity that may present itself, or to your point, you run into
Speaker:somebody and create that opportunity.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, put yourself out there.
Speaker:And I think there's sometimes the curve balls that are unplanned.
Speaker:That's great.
Speaker:Bridgette, this is actually a good segue 'cause I wanted you to kind
Speaker:of tell your story a little bit.
Speaker:I think it's a good model for women or men to look at.
Speaker:so where did you go to college and what were you interested in?
Speaker:How did, how did you get into this industry?
Speaker:So, I went to college.
Speaker:I went to school at Duquesne University in Pittsburgh.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I studied management information systems.
Speaker:MIS, the old MIS, I remember that.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I guess I will say it's the precursor to all of our data
Speaker:analytics and visualization now.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But back then it was a big thing.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:And I came outta school and I went to work in the energy industry.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I started doing large scale system implementations, and that's the career
Speaker:path that I followed for the first 10 years, ah, of my career journey.
Speaker:And I thought that that would be something I was going on, you know, into perpetuity.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And that's actually how I fell into the public sector of transportation.
Speaker:I was doing supply chain logistics, really focused in the private side, and
Speaker:then I took an opportunity to help MARTA with a large system implementation.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I just fell in love with the industry.
Speaker:I loved that we were doing something intentional, that it was meaningful,
Speaker:that we were really creating a space that we could have an impact.
Speaker:Coming from other backgrounds, you just didn't really always know, you didn't
Speaker:have the openness and the support.
Speaker:I was able to call people up at other agencies and say,
Speaker:Hey, how did you guys do this?
Speaker:And we could answer where,
Speaker:oh yeah.
Speaker:The
Speaker:early part of my resume, I wasn't even able to write down what clients,
Speaker:'cause everything was confidential.
Speaker:Oh wow.
Speaker:So it was a complete shift in my perspective.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And we don't compete against each other.
Speaker:So you can call whoever Right.
Speaker:Philadelphia to get input on what you're doing in Pittsburgh or Atlanta.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely.
Speaker:So that was really wonderful and I loved that aspect.
Speaker:'cause we're, you know.
Speaker:Good stewards of taxpayer funds, if you
Speaker:will,
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:And so then what did you start your own company, then you decided to.
Speaker:so the company, it's a very interesting story because I never envisioned
Speaker:myself as being an entrepreneur.
Speaker:That was actually not part of my plan.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I think that's where I talk about the curve balls.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That I, you know, referenced.
Speaker:For me personally, I had a family tragedy.
Speaker:And so that shifted everything.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:I was no longer able to continue along that path.
Speaker:And, you know, sadly, and that's part of the reason that I became the
Speaker:chair of WTS because there weren't opportunities for me, or I didn't
Speaker:feel there were opportunities for me In the kind of positions that I
Speaker:wanted to take with the larger firms.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And so I really created my business out of necessity.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I started it as what is referred to as a lifestyle business.
Speaker:I created it because I wanted to be able to do the work.
Speaker:I wanted to select whom I was working with, pick meaningful
Speaker:projects, but I needed flexibility in my own personal life.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And so you started Lumenor Consulting, and what kind of projects did you start
Speaker:doing when you first kicked it off?
Speaker:When I first kicked it off, I stuck with my large scale mega implementation, so I
Speaker:did a lot of the fare collection programs.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:I started out,
Speaker:that's where I met you.
Speaker:That's where we met,
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:When I was at MTA.
Speaker:Back in Baltimore.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So supported, you know, agencies across North America and actually
Speaker:went over to London to do some work with them, and it was wonderful.
Speaker:And then after eight years, I decided, well, I wanna start to build this.
Speaker:And so, you know, Lumenor is now 18 years old.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Uh, next November we'll get to 20 years.
Speaker:So it's gonna be a big celebration, you know, for Lumenor.
Speaker:And, um, we've grown to over 50 people.
Speaker:And so now we've got, across all different modes and it shifted,
Speaker:you know, like we talk about the curve balls, the changes,
Speaker:you're other things now, right?
Speaker:We're in other things and we go across all modes of transportation.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Talk about what you all do, your company.
Speaker:So Lumenor does environmental services.
Speaker:We still do large scale mega implementations.
Speaker:So we support things like asset management we have a project controls group.
Speaker:So for instance, here in Washington DC we support the Metro procurement
Speaker:department and we help them manage their program management, construction
Speaker:management, and GAEC contracts.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Other groups?
Speaker:Within Lumenor we have, uh, the asset management, and then
Speaker:we do planning and geospatial.
Speaker:So you decide to start your own company, get it going, and you're,
Speaker:kind of growing into different areas, That your company can address.
Speaker:You're at 50 people now.
Speaker:You're almost not a small business anymore.
Speaker:But, but let's talk about small businesses.
Speaker:How do you get your work, do you bid directly with agencies or do you
Speaker:bid as a sub with a larger A&E or both or what's the story on that?
Speaker:It's a combination.
Speaker:Um, you know, early stages, we went after everything as a prime because
Speaker:I just didn't know any better.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:And somehow we won a couple of awards.
Speaker:I got my first contract with LA Metro and then I was able to move over.
Speaker:SEPTA supported me on a, an award.
Speaker:I got some work in Baltimore MTA.
Speaker:But then as I wanted to start growing, then I really started
Speaker:to partner with the A&E firms.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And working together with them.
Speaker:Now that I've gotten to be larger, now I'm trying to create
Speaker:a different model where we go in and, you know, we go in as a prime.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it takes a lot of, support from the industry to do that,
Speaker:and I think the industry's really seeming to be, supportive of that.
Speaker:For instance, this project that I won as a prime in Washington DC
Speaker:I brought in a minority firm that had not been working at the agency.
Speaker:So trying to create other models where, maybe you flip it a little bit, I've got
Speaker:a large, A&E firm with me supporting.
Speaker:And so by taking these economies of scale and bringing multiple firms
Speaker:together, we can support because I think what the the agencies really
Speaker:need is they need specialized skills.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:And we've got the mega firms that do a fantastic job on
Speaker:all of these mega projects.
Speaker:But you have smaller firms and really we come in with the boutique service.
Speaker:And I think it's important.
Speaker:And right now in our industry, we've gotta really be intentional to make
Speaker:sure that we create that opportunity and allow that innovation to continue.
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Speaker:Tell us about how you bundle, memberships for agencies.
Speaker:So we've really expanded our agency partner program in recent years,
Speaker:and what we've done is we've created multiple levels to attract an agency
Speaker:at whatever is most meaningful to them.
Speaker:So some of them may be opportunities for them to have bundled memberships, others
Speaker:that really wanna provide training.
Speaker:We'll bundle in our signature leadership training on both
Speaker:the executive and mid-career.
Speaker:And then the final one is if you wanna have a combination of all of
Speaker:those, so we've created these new opportunities to attract the agencies,
Speaker:like, like a transit agency?
Speaker:A transit agency, a DOT.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:A port.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:We've had, you know, we're, we're expanding across the full gamut, and
Speaker:this is a way that we can bring a lot of the different modes together.
Speaker:Because I think WTS really sits there at the Nexus, and so we have the, the
Speaker:different opportunities and we wanna keep women in transportation, whether
Speaker:you're gonna go in from one mode to another, but having the agency part
Speaker:of that conversation is critical.
Speaker:So let's say back when I was CEO of MTA, so if I wanted to say, okay,
Speaker:I've got these, you know, six women leaders that I see up and coming
Speaker:leaders in my agency, what would I do?
Speaker:So you could contact WTS International.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And it's offered through international, not at the chapter level.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:It's at the international level.
Speaker:And talk through, with our CEO, Dr. Malika Reed Wilkins,
Speaker:what is meaningful to you.
Speaker:And, she can direct as to which is gonna be the most impactful
Speaker:for your particular agency.
Speaker:And then sponsorships.
Speaker:Talk about, you know, how do WTS is a nonprofit, but you
Speaker:still have to have money to run.
Speaker:How do you make your money other than, okay, you got those and
Speaker:you've got membership dues there.
Speaker:Anything else you do, can other.
Speaker:Big organizations or companies get involved?
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And we do, we've got different, corporate partners and sponsors that, come
Speaker:in and support at different levels.
Speaker:And, uh, there's opportunities that we create at, you know, everything
Speaker:from a pinnacle level all the way down to a pillar level, which is
Speaker:attractive to small businesses.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So there's a variety of levels with different benefits at each level.
Speaker:And, the ROI back to the sponsors is that we're actually doing
Speaker:a lot of training and a lot of advancement for their own employees.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:So that's the, that's the value proposition for them.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:They love, you know, it's not just that they love supporting WTS 'cause
Speaker:it's a great organization, but a portion of their contributions go
Speaker:to fund our scholarships and then we're actually creating meaningful
Speaker:value back to their employee base.
Speaker:So if I'm a, a. Or if a listener here is a woman who wants to, you
Speaker:know, she's thinking about her career and not sure, that's where that
Speaker:mentorship program could come in.
Speaker:So they could actually meet with somebody through WTS and you would tell
Speaker:'em, okay, let's talk about your plan.
Speaker:It's no money.
Speaker:You don't, they don't have to pay for that.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:It's all part of your membership.
Speaker:That's great, man.
Speaker:It's part of your chapters.
Speaker:And then, you know, we have, for instance, with the women business owners round
Speaker:table, I have women that reach out to me that are interested in starting
Speaker:their business, and we connect them and talk to them about what is that?
Speaker:What does it really look like?
Speaker:What does it really take?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And, you know, help each other.
Speaker:Career journey wise, you know, people wanna talk through something.
Speaker:We do a signature leadership training, so we do that for, executive and mid-career.
Speaker:So we actually have a multi-day group where you go through and you have the
Speaker:training to really go through and help.
Speaker:And then you have that cohort that can follow you through.
Speaker:As you go through your career journey.
Speaker:So it's another mechanism to stay connected and work with people.
Speaker:That's great.
Speaker:two more things I wanna talk about.
Speaker:One is just from, so you, you have a really unique perspective.
Speaker:You are not only running a business for almost 20 years in the
Speaker:transportation industry, but you're head of a big national association.
Speaker:Where do you think we are as an industry coming into 2026
Speaker:for public transportation?
Speaker:Just any general thoughts you have.
Speaker:I think we're at a very transformative time.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I think if we.
Speaker:Are not intentional about the journey, then we could have
Speaker:some unintended consequences.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:there's a lot of change and change is good.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:You know, I think we need change and I think when there's dramatic
Speaker:change, like we're seeing, everything from the technologies that we have.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The opportunity to, you know, you've got AI you've got autonomous vehicles.
Speaker:There's a lot of opportunities that come in here.
Speaker:With opportunity comes risk.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I think just understanding and making sure that as we make
Speaker:our decisions, that we understand the full consequences of those.
Speaker:Even, taking a look, shifting back to my perspective about small businesses,
Speaker:there's been a lot of change in that area.
Speaker:And, you know, we have to be intentional to make sure that we create and continue
Speaker:to have those opportunities so that the businesses don't leave our industry.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's important.
Speaker:So we are here at TRB, the Transportation Research Board, and you all had
Speaker:this fantastic reception last night.
Speaker:What's the connection between WTS and TRB other than you have?
Speaker:Three initials in your name.
Speaker:So TRB is an MOU partner of ours.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And so we partner with different industry organizations to help collaborate.
Speaker:So we have our mission as WTS to attract, promote, and
Speaker:advance women in transportation.
Speaker:Obviously, TRB does a lot of research, so an MOU where we can lean into each other.
Speaker:To support and make sure that we all focus on our core missions.
Speaker:Similarly, we have MOUs with AASHTO.
Speaker:We have an MOU with APTA, COMTO, Latinos in Transit, and other organ
Speaker:organizations so that we can get that support and make sure that it
Speaker:stretches and expands our reach.
Speaker:While allowing us to focus on our core mission and vision.
Speaker:That's good.
Speaker:And, and talk to me about the, have you all done any grants or anything with TRB?
Speaker:We've had different research programs that we've done in the past and,
Speaker:um, really hope, helping to focus and, you know, gather information.
Speaker:It's, it's amazing whenever you do some of these studies and you actually, you know,
Speaker:what comes at a gut feel, and then you see the, the layout and how deep things go.
Speaker:And that's been really transformative in terms of what we've gotten, in
Speaker:terms of the information on women and access to different things, access
Speaker:to training, access to education, access to different opportunities.
Speaker:And I'd like to see our research expand in the future to really focus even
Speaker:more on the small business side and how we can do things to help elevate and
Speaker:attract and give them more opportunities.
Speaker:That's great.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We're doing a panel today actually at, the APTA booth about that, about the studies.
Speaker:Some of the cool studies, now we're in 2026.
Speaker:It's so important, I think since we are in a time of transformation to have, um
Speaker:documented studies about some of the cool things that are happening in the industry.
Speaker:We wanna make sure like AI serves us and we don't end up serving it.
Speaker:We don't wanna be like Terminator
Speaker:movie, you know, where, uh, AI becomes the overlord.
Speaker:Uh, I mean, some of the, what, you know, I know everybody doesn't like Elon
Speaker:Musk, but he, the comment he made this week about, you know, the singularity.
Speaker:We've just gone into that.
Speaker:It's kind of kind of crazy, man.
Speaker:A little scary.
Speaker:It's a little bit frightening.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So we wanna make sure we have studies and analytics to say what's the best
Speaker:usage of that to serve our end goal, which is to serve our passengers.
Speaker:That's always our end goal in the industry.
Speaker:We've just done a whole series on the state of the industry.
Speaker:We did six podcasts the two of the end of the year, and then
Speaker:the first full month of January.
Speaker:And I got, you know, everybody from David Zipper to give me what he thinks is coming
Speaker:to, uh, lots of other takes on things.
Speaker:And I think transformative is a great word to describe it.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:There's so many changes happening.
Speaker:States are stepping up in massive ways to support agencies like in
Speaker:Chicago where Illinois did that, and LA, California, other places like.
Speaker:Pennsylvania with SEPTA, still looking to make sure they get enough funding.
Speaker:So, and then you've got a real emphasis out of Washington, which is a change.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:From what the previous administrations, not so much emphasis on zero emission
Speaker:buses, you know, not so much emphasis on DEI, they're doing other things now.
Speaker:So you're right, it is tra it's changing and I think people have to, um, a,
Speaker:a group like WTS is a great place, first off, to stay in tune with that.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:and then also kind of plan your career and pivot around what's happening.
Speaker:That's good.
Speaker:One of the great places, I think you all throw some great events and
Speaker:one of the great places to do that might be your upcoming conference.
Speaker:Tell us about that.
Speaker:So we're gonna be going to LA in May.
Speaker:So May in LA we're gonna have our, annual conference there.
Speaker:And, uh, we've shifted the model this year where we go from Tuesday
Speaker:to Thursday to create opportunities for women to come up before and
Speaker:after and really do connections.
Speaker:And we'll start the conference off with some, you know, executive
Speaker:women's round tables, some women business owners round tables.
Speaker:We'll have our three days of the conference creating
Speaker:opportunities for people to come through and have conversations.
Speaker:one thing that I love about the conference is it's educational,
Speaker:but it's also inspirational.
Speaker:And we create something where people can come through, share experiences, give
Speaker:the guidance, like you had talked about having opportunities for conversations
Speaker:you may not have in another venue.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's one thing that people, find valuable.
Speaker:You've been to our Think Transit conference, I think, and we do that one
Speaker:day executive summit, and I hear from, we had 60 people each year, last two years.
Speaker:I hear from people all the time saying to me that's like the most open I've
Speaker:ever been able to be because we have Chatham House rules, you know, meaning
Speaker:you don't quote anybody by name.
Speaker:and, it's very important to have real, real conversations with people and not
Speaker:be worried about, you know, oh, it's gonna get back to my board or whatever
Speaker:I want, but I need some honest input.
Speaker:and that, by the way, for listeners, is coming up at the end of March, the Think
Speaker:Transit Executive Summit for executives.
Speaker:Oh, I know one other thing I was gonna mention to you.
Speaker:You did a great job.
Speaker:I wanted to thank you publicly.
Speaker:You, uh, you were a guest lecturer at my Villanova courses last year, uh,
Speaker:up in Philadelphia and the, uh, the, it's all graduate students in the
Speaker:engineering program and you talked about career paths and all like that.
Speaker:And, uh, the dean just told me last week, how much they enjoyed all those
Speaker:talks and they invited me to come back and teach a course again in the fall.
Speaker:You wanna come and if you can fit it in your schedule, come
Speaker:be a caguest lecturer again.
Speaker:I would love to, I mean, to me that's one of the, true benefits of, of, you
Speaker:know, being in a career in this industry, being able to give back to people.
Speaker:I mean, when I taught that course, just seeing their expressions,
Speaker:hearing their questions, I mean, they were really so engaged.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:They were engaged.
Speaker:And it's so exciting.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, you leave after that feeling energized and that I can see why you, you
Speaker:went down that path at first, whenever I heard you were, you were teaching, I
Speaker:thought, where do you have time for this?
Speaker:But I see it's the kind of things that you just make the time for.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it energizes you, you know?
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:I think you and I are people people, and we get energized when we're around
Speaker:people, so it's, it's fun to see that.
Speaker:Well, it's been great.
Speaker:Anything else you wanna share before we wrap up?
Speaker:About WTS or anything else, or a word to women in the industry?
Speaker:I'd like to make a word to, to men and the women.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And just welcome you.
Speaker:You know, please, if you haven't been to WTS, just come to an event.
Speaker:Just come show up.
Speaker:Let people know it's your first event.
Speaker:We had 25% of the people at our, TRB reception were non-members
Speaker:that had just shown up and said, Hey, I've heard about you.
Speaker:would like to see what this is all about.
Speaker:So just show up.
Speaker:Check us out, and hopefully you'll find some inspiration
Speaker:and decide to, to join us.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We'll put a link to WTS in the show notes.
Speaker:Yes, WTS international.org.
Speaker:Very good.
Speaker:Excellent.
Speaker:Well, Bridgette, wish you all the best both, uh, personally and professionally,
Speaker:and both your gigs, uh, as chair.
Speaker:So your term finishes up at the conference, is that the idea?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:At the conclusion of the conference, we'll do the transition to the new W
Speaker:And who is it?
Speaker:Can you announce it?
Speaker:Oh, yes.
Speaker:It's known.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Our, our incoming chair will be Erin Slayton.
Speaker:And she is a remarkable and dynamic leader, so she is gonna be, carrying
Speaker:this forward with great hands.
Speaker:We had a transformative year in WTS last year.
Speaker:We hired our new CEO and executive director, Dr. Malika Reed Wilkins,
Speaker:and she is known to our industry.
Speaker:She came to us from the Atlanta Regional Commission, where she was
Speaker:an executive leader there as well.
Speaker:She's a past president, so I think I'm, I'm feeling very good about leaving WTS.
Speaker:In good hands because one of the pillars of my time as the chair was to focus
Speaker:on the resilience of the organization.
Speaker:I really spent the last 18 months listening and just hearing from
Speaker:our chapters, from our sponsors, from our MOU partners, our members,
Speaker:and just all the volunteers that make this an amazing organization.
Speaker:And so I think with listening becomes momentum.
Speaker:So I'm really excited.
Speaker:I feel like I'm leaving the organization in a much better place,
Speaker:and I've seen that positive response.
Speaker:So I'm, I'm very much excited for the future of WTS.
Speaker:And now that we've hit 10,000, I don't think 15,000 is far away.
Speaker:That's wonderful.
Speaker:You're gonna hit it.
Speaker:Congrats.
Speaker:Thank you, Paul.
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