Speaker A

You say the first one is what you're physical.

Speaker A

What would example of that be?

Speaker A

Would that be like someone giving.

Speaker A

Hey, you allowing somebody.

Speaker A

Hey, you only can get three feet in front of around me.

Speaker A

If you get too close, hey, I'm be saying, back up.

Speaker B

That could be one.

Speaker B

Or it could be as far as what you could do with your body.

Speaker B

As far as, like, lifting weights, as far as walking.

Speaker B

How, you know, you give yourself a.

Speaker B

You know, a boundary.

Speaker B

Okay, I'm gonna walk this many miles a day, or I'm gonna set a goal and do this to help my body out.

Speaker A

I got a question for you too, Mental.

Speaker A

Mental.

Speaker A

I ask you a question.

Speaker A

Are you a hugger

Speaker C

to my lady?

Speaker C

Yo.

Speaker A

No, not to you.

Speaker A

I got that.

Speaker A

But, like, you know how they got.

Speaker A

You know how they got people that every time you.

Speaker A

Hey, they see you, they want to hug you?

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

Are you.

Speaker A

You that.

Speaker C

No.

Speaker A

How about you, Rafiq?

Speaker B

Nope.

Speaker A

So what.

Speaker A

What, is it rude if we come across a hugger who tries to come hug us and.

Speaker A

And we say, hey, Nah, back up.

Speaker B

No, it's not rude.

Speaker B

It's.

Speaker B

It's.

Speaker B

It's your personal boundary that you set.

Speaker A

Have you ever said that, Mental?

Speaker A

Have you ever said somebody ever came to hug you and you've been like, nah, I don't.

Speaker A

I don't do that.

Speaker B

Yeah, I've said it.

Speaker C

See, that's the thing.

Speaker C

Like, the people that.

Speaker C

That.

Speaker C

That have done that, I wouldn't mind a hug from them, but, like, stranger, somebody I know, just a random person.

Speaker C

It's never happened for me to say that.

Speaker C

Yeah, I've done it.

Speaker C

But if it was to happen, I probably would, like.

Speaker C

Nah.

Speaker C

Because I. I don't.

Speaker C

I don't.

Speaker C

I don't mess with strangers like that.

Speaker A

Okay?

Speaker A

What if it's somebody that you knew in high school, Y' all was acquaintances.

Speaker A

Now, fast forward 15 years later, you see Buddy in the mall, and he see him.

Speaker A

He see you and he walking towards you.

Speaker A

You know how you do the dap and you know, get.

Speaker A

You know what I mean?

Speaker A

How you dap and kind of do the little semi hood, like, hey, man, what's up, man?

Speaker A

Long time no see.

Speaker A

What.

Speaker A

What is that.

Speaker C

Again?

Speaker C

I mean, you know, again, again.

Speaker C

If.

Speaker C

If I allow that to happen.

Speaker C

We cool?

Speaker A

Rafiki, do you ever.

Speaker A

You ever see somebody say, hey, Nah, I don't do the hug stuff.

Speaker A

Back up.

Speaker A

Leave me alone?

Speaker B

Yeah, I've done it.

Speaker B

I've done it.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

And what was the reaction?

Speaker A

What was the other person.

Speaker A

What was the other person's Reaction to you.

Speaker B

And I'm.

Speaker B

And I'm.

Speaker B

And I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker B

What do you mean?

Speaker B

We used to do this all the time.

Speaker B

Well, that's.

Speaker B

That's because we was children.

Speaker B

We was teenagers.

Speaker A

Did they get adults now?

Speaker A

Did they get mad?

Speaker B

No, they understood.

Speaker A

Well, that was a good friend.

Speaker A

Because sometimes people will feel some type of way.

Speaker A

What's number two?

Speaker B

I mean, now, if they walk away and they say something, hey, I don't hear it.

Speaker A

All right, what was number two on that list?

Speaker B

Your emotional state and your mental state.

Speaker A

All right, so what would example of boundary for emotional state be?

Speaker B

Like, if you're angry, you.

Speaker B

You have the right to tell somebody, hey, look, I'm not in the mood right now.

Speaker B

I advise you to back out.

Speaker B

Now.

Speaker B

If they choose to proceed, then whatever happens, happens.

Speaker B

But you gave him at least that warning.

Speaker A

Hey, man, give me 50ft.

Speaker A

I ain't in the right move, you know?

Speaker B

But me, I have tried to walk away, and I've had people try to follow me.

Speaker B

I'm like, look, you need to back off.

Speaker B

If you don't back off, something's bad going to happen.

Speaker B

And if they don't back off and they pursue it, you know, in the past, I probably would get physical.

Speaker B

So I'm trying to.

Speaker B

That's one of the ones that I'm working on with the emotional.

Speaker B

Because the emotional, it can go very different, very directions.

Speaker B

I mean, I'm starting to learn now that you can actually stop and think and actually read what's actually going on.

Speaker B

And not everybody wants to do that.

Speaker B

They don't want to stop and actually read the body language, because if the body language is off, that's my cue to back out.

Speaker A

Mental.

Speaker A

Do you have an example of a mental boundary?

Speaker C

When Rafiki first said it, I thought about the example he just gave about when, you know, when you're upset or something, somebody come try to, you know, get in your space.

Speaker C

Hey, I ain't in the mood right now.

Speaker C

That's.

Speaker C

That's exactly what I was thinking about.

Speaker C

But something other than that, I don't think I have anything.

Speaker B

What would y' all say for the mental state, though?

Speaker B

Give me an example for that.

Speaker C

I.

Speaker A

That's why I was asking him.

Speaker A

I. I think I may have one.

Speaker A

What if somebody wants to keep talking to you about a subject that you don't want to talk about?

Speaker B

If they keep digging it and keep digging it, they're.

Speaker B

They're gonna.

Speaker B

Either way.

Speaker B

If I keep telling them no and they keep pursuing it, and then I Tell them this right here.

Speaker B

Careful what you ask for because you might get the truth and the truth might hurt you.

Speaker B

That's on them.

Speaker B

Yeah, let's see what, but see what people do, they try to get into your, your mental space.

Speaker B

They keep trying to mess with your mental state to get you upset.

Speaker A

Yeah, I was being a little bit more simpler than that though.

Speaker A

Hey, what if somebody loves talking about sports and you, you don't watch sports?

Speaker C

Whose platform are we on?

Speaker C

Are we on their platform or our own platform?

Speaker C

Is this going down?

Speaker C

Because if it's on their platform, I just, I'll just get off of their platform.

Speaker A

Well, what if you had.

Speaker A

I'm, I'm not really talking online.

Speaker A

I'm talking like on the streets.

Speaker A

On the streets, your friend or your friend, you know, somebody, you gotta say, hey, you at work and a co worker keeps trying to talk to you about sports.

Speaker C

I don't watch sports.

Speaker C

I mean the first, the first time if, if you don't mess with sports like that, I think the first time anything comes up that you're not comfortable with, you should let the other party know where you stand on it.

Speaker C

If you don't, if you don't watch sports.

Speaker C

First time they come up to me asking about sports, hey man, I don't watch sports.

Speaker C

Now if they continue after that, you know, hey, I told you once before, I don't like sports.

Speaker A

So is you think that's a proper example of putting a mental boundary?

Speaker B

I would say yeah, yeah.

Speaker C

Because I'm letting you know, hey, mentally, I don't with this, you know, but I mean, hey, you now know in your mental.

Speaker C

From the first time that you approach me on some sports, hey, I don't, I don't, I don't take part in that.

Speaker C

Now you have it.

Speaker C

You come back again.

Speaker C

Now you're doing it.

Speaker C

You're, you're, you're intentionally.

Speaker C

Hopefully you forgot.

Speaker A

So could we say a mental boundary would be the subjects or topics you engage and don't engage in.

Speaker B

I would say something to the effect of this because this is actually wanted to actually boundaries that.

Speaker B

See that I was gonna mention there are non negotiable boundaries that, that we set.

Speaker B

And I feel if you have that boundary that you don't talk about sports, politics or religion, you speak that up and you literally say the words, these are non negotiable.

Speaker B

You tell them flat out, this is for my mental state as well, and it's non negotiable.