Amazon this week announced that current Whole Foods CEO Jason Beechle will take the helm for its entire worldwide grocery business.
Speaker AAccording to Grocery Dive, Beagle, who already oversees the vast majority of Amazon's grocery stores as the head of Whole Foods, will now be atop the Amazon Fresh traditional supermarket chain and Amazon Go fleet of convenience stores.
Speaker ADoug Harrington, the CEO of worldwide Amazon stores, praised Beagle's experience running Whole Foods in the Monday announcement, saying, quote, in his time as CEO, Jason has unlocked our ability to make high quality, natural and organic groceries more affordable and accessible to customers, end quote.
Speaker AAnd that Walmart, or, sorry, that Walmart, that Whole Foods has achieved, quote, record sales growth, end quote, under Beagle.
Speaker AAnd in somewhat related news, Amazon also announced that it plans to close another one of its Amazon Go stores in Woodland hills, California on February 26, meaning its total store count will have decreased about 50% since early 2023.
Speaker AWow, Chris, with all, with all that out of the way, do you think, Mr.
Speaker AHe just goes by Jason if you're friends with him.
Speaker ABut do you think that Beagle is the right person to head Amazon's grocery strategy?
Speaker BWhoa.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BWe're getting started off hot here again and man, I mean, I got to, I got to think about how I want to answer that question.
Speaker BYou know, I think Jason seems like a good dude, but, you know, I got to be true, true to the show and give my opinion here.
Speaker BBut there's a lot to unpack in this headline, which is why I think we started out with it.
Speaker BAnd I think it all depends on what Amazon's goal is here with their grocery strategy.
Speaker BYou know, if it's, if it's retreat, which given the Amazon Go headlines, I kind of think that might be what it is.
Speaker BIt's just like throw the white flag and call it a day, then, sure, give him more responsibility.
Speaker BWind down Amazon Fresh and Amazon go make that part of his job.
Speaker BAnd it feels like that's what they're doing to me.
Speaker BBut if it's grow the business, honestly, I'm a little, little skeptical.
Speaker BAnd I think the dude, sharp, he's articulate, but I don't, I don't really know what he's done for Whole Foods.
Speaker BI mean, the record sales growth claim kind of shocked me a little bit, you know, especially given that massive inflation we've had too, in the grocery industry.
Speaker BSo I'm a little bit like, okay, how much do I put into that claim?
Speaker BYou know, it sounds like something trying to do to, you know, you know, excitement the daily shop, which is like his like bread and butter strategy for Whole Foods is just getting off the ground.
Speaker BI don't think we can say that that's successful yet and we have a lot of skepticism about how well that's going to work too.
Speaker BAnd you know, I just go back to what I've said on the show a lot of times.
Speaker BIs Whole Foods really better off now than it Was back in 2017?
Speaker BI don't think so.
Speaker BI mean, I think Walmart is stronger with upper incomes.
Speaker BSprout is doing great.
Speaker BSprouts is doing great.
Speaker BLike, so I just don't know if the track record's there yet to be like, this is the guy that's going to re enliven our Amazon, you know, grocery growth strategy.
Speaker BIt feels like, it feels like a promotion based on potential versus like actual experience and performance to me, quite honestly.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, I think that you bring up a really important point which is where is the future for Amazon in the grocery space?
Speaker AI think that's what we really have to focus on here and now.
Speaker AThis, this, this like placement of Beagle.
Speaker ANow if, if it follows the way that it should go, I think there certainly could be some positives coming out of this.
Speaker ALike, is he leading the strategy?
Speaker AHe does know the Whole Foods shopper.
Speaker AHe's been in the Whole Foods ecosystem for a very long time.
Speaker AHe knows what the Whole Foods customers are expecting.
Speaker AI think it just depends on will he get to start making calls about the daily shop that you mentioned or the way the direction in which Amazon takes grocery.
Speaker AAnd I don't know that that's possible.
Speaker ALike, I think it's a good, it's a good thing to do.
Speaker AI think Amazon is taking a hard look at what their grocery strategy should be and if he's put in this role and he's really in control of driving the strategy, there could be some changes.
Speaker AMy thought though, Chris, is that the more likely scenario is that we continue to kind of further see the degradation of Whole Foods as we know it.
Speaker AI think we're going to start to see Pepsi in the aisles.
Speaker AI think that, that Jason being in charge will be like, yeah, this isn't the Whole Foods that we know and love.
Speaker ABut I think Amazon will start pushing and be like, well, but we need the money from these CPGs, the concepts that we've been testing with the side by side or order ahead.
Speaker ALike, I think that's where we start to see them going, which to your earlier point just puts them in closer competition with Walmart and some of the mass merchants out there who are doing organic foods, who are doing that at a lower price point that Whole Foods is never going to beat.
Speaker AAnd then I think you.
Speaker AYou kind of.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker AYou push away the Whole Foods customers to places like Sprouts, like you're talking about.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWow, that's really interesting.
Speaker BSo you think they might go that direction?
Speaker BThat's like the third realm here, right?
Speaker BOf, like, you know, where.
Speaker AI hope not.
Speaker AI hope not.
Speaker ABut, I mean, I think just based on what we know about Amazon, I.
Speaker AI think that's probably the direction that they're about money, they're about making money and how they do that quickly.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I was, like, looking at the resume, too, Ann, you know, and his resume is.
Speaker BI think it's like 13 years at Accenture, like over a decade at Accenture, which, you know, is mostly it.
Speaker BThen came into Whole Foods as kind of an IT strategist guy.
Speaker BAnd then to your point, he's been at Whole Foods now, I think, since 2013, so, like, almost 12 years at whole Foods.
Speaker BSo he's got a good grocery understanding.
Speaker BBut, you know, how much merchandising is in there, is my question.
Speaker BBut we got to hear him speak at retail spaces, and he did seem like he was very, you know, interested in understanding the merchandising aspect of the business.
Speaker BSo, yeah, God knows where this goes, but it's going to be fascinating to watch.
Speaker BThe other thing, an I can't say be without thinking of Beaker from.
Speaker BFrom the Muppets, can you?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BThat's just every time you say be, I'm like.
Speaker BBut anyway.