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All right, Harry, nice to see you again and thank you for joining us on the podcast today.

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Seeing as you put me through the ringer once a week, I'm pretty familiar with who you are.

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But yeah, I don't suppose the rest of our audience is maybe quite as familiar with you and

what you do.

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So maybe if you could just give us a brief rundown of who you are and your story and then

we'll get into the meat and potatoes of today's conversation.

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Absolutely, thank you for having me on firstly.

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Yeah, I do have the pleasure of training you once a week, is an honour.

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So yeah, it's great to be on.

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So my name is Harry Warrow and I'm a biomechanics specialist based in Teesside in the

north east of England.

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And I am originally from south east of London, reason being not having a northern accent.

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And yes, I work with people one to one, either face to face and online.

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to solve their their postural issues which are causing pain and discomfort.

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cool.

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I'd love to jump into fashion human movement in a bit.

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But first off, I'd just like to ask a bit more about Tagfit, which is something I should

have done previously, actually, we've only talked about this.

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You could have gone down many routes with your background.

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But what spurred you on to sort of start Tagfit?

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And specifically, how did you sort of get interested in this sort of functional approach

to movement as a clinical model?

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Good question.

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think my knowledge from, say, bodybuilding and rugby took a turn when I started doing

functional training and doing CrossFit as a competitor.

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So I did a lot of functional training.

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I did a lot of functional bodybuilding at the same time to help with competitions.

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And that's where I guess my knowledge started to develop more.

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into functional training and I knew though however there was a different step there was

another step to functional training from you know a human movement patterns point of view

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so I guess CrossFit was the turning point to functional training however I wanted to take

it up a little bit more so when I became a biomechanics specialist

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I was looking more to do with asymmetry and symmetrical movement patterns, finding out why

there was pain in the body and finding out if posture was connected to pain.

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So a lot of multi-dimensional movements that wasn't really in functional training or

CrossFit, that's where I wanted to start to kind of take my energy more into.

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and saw a huge benefit to how my clients were moving.

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Okay, fair enough.

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Yeah.

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No, it's something that again, I can attest to as well.

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And it's actually the perfect segue into I suppose what's really my first question, which

is, and this is obviously in your opinion, of course, but why do you think that the

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traditional sort of physical therapy and rehab model just doesn't seem to work?

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I know it's something.

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It's something I definitely think about a lot, having sort of been through the ring of

myself the years trying to deal with my own postural ailments.

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And it's something I sort of think of

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sort of akin to the sort of the traditional as being akin to the traditional psychotherapy

model, in that we've always known, all of us know of at least someone who's sort of been

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in and out of traditional psychotherapy for five, 10, 15, 20 years, and they're still at

square one, they've not really made much improvement.

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And that's not to say that these models, whether talk about psychotherapy potentially, or

traditional physical therapy.

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don't work.

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They just seem to be, again, in my opinion, anyway, very selective.

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They seem to work for a few people.

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But there are just so many people who just fall through the cracks and just don't seem to

make any progress after sort of months or even years of attempting to sort of fix

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themselves in whatever shape or form that takes.

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So yeah, going back to the question, why do you think that sort of traditional?

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Yeah, that traditional physical therapy approach just doesn't seem to really move the

needle.

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that much for so many individuals.

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Yeah, I think as you mentioned, there's a lot to rehab.

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So firstly, when you look at an individual, it sometimes is just physical and it is just a

structural problem that as you mentioned, some models work great and you can fix that with

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an isolated approach, which typically is the method of most practitioners in that field.

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There's a shoulder issue, let's try to just rehab the shoulder.

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But in isolation, that might work for some.

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But I think longer term, the way to help people fully is to have that whole body approach.

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And when we work with an individual, when I work with an individual, there's physical

issues.

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But of course, physical issues cause emotional problems.

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They cause mental problems.

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And that can affect other life.

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elements really, so sleep, relationships, work, stress, food.

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So there's a lot of elements that we need to kind of start to take into effect really when

working with that one person.

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So it's not just about the physical training, we need to focus more on food intake,

stress, drugs, work, love, relationships.

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All those types of elements need to start to be

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been taken into effect really when you're working with somebody because if you're asking

somebody to do certain things in the gym they might find that very stressful and I know

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that I've had experience with clients when they come in and they're very very stressed

from their work and the first thing we need to do is just pull them out of that response.

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We need to put them more into a relaxed and calm nervous system so that's something I do

you know quite often.

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So I think coming back to the question, think a lot of typical approaches these days are

just isolated.

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You know, so if there's a problem in the knee, let's, you know, typically it's like, let's

just try to focus on those muscles closest to the pain.

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However, that's not always the actual problem is sometimes the problem is higher up.

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It's, it's more around hips.

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It's more around rib cage.

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and then you need to look at the knee and the foot.

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So it's more about a chain.

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and a link rather than just, okay, we'll train the quadriceps because it's closest to the

knee.

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That's not always the full story of what's going on.

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Yeah, no, it's, it's definitely the siloed approach that sort of seeps seems to seep

through all of traditional Western medicine, in the sense that you sort of, yeah, if you

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got a stomach problem, you go to the gastroenterologist, if you got a thyroid problem, you

go to the endocrinologist.

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And it's, yeah, obviously, the same sort of process carries over to the the movement side

of things as well.

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I found that sort of

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fairly strange that as a sort of a society, a society of medical professionals or whatever

in general that we still look at the body in this sort of very individual as very

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individualized components and that I mean, what's the old the old nursery rhyme, something

along the lines of what pulls the knee bone pulls the leg bone something to that extent.

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don't know if you remember that.

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I remember singing that in nursery.

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Yes, it's and it does.

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And as you pointed out, mean, again, something we'll get to in a bit, I'm sure.

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But I still find it fascinating that you go to a physical therapist and you nobody takes

into account the emotional component.

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And what I've been doing is some research into is the sort of the the link between fascia

and mitochondria function.

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fascia can sort of impair their body's ability to create energy if it's dehydrated.

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I mean, that's definitely a conversation for another day.

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But again, it just points to this fact that we sort of again, as a medical society in

general, just look at it through a very sort of myopic or sort of narrow lens.

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Anyway, I'm I'm all scripted down a rabbit hole already, which is hardly surprising given

given that it's me.

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But

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But yeah, but before we Yeah, before I sort of do an Alice and wonder often to never never

land or whatever it is.

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Yeah, let's get back on to topics.

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So I think I'd what I'd love to jump into next is sort of what postural dysfunction really

is because I think that's a good place to start.

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And then potentially how people can start treating these issues.

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But to start off with, could you sort of highlight what postural dysfunction is?

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Because I think a lot of people will generally only seek out someone like yourself when

they've damaged themselves, when there is an acute injury that has resulted in pain and

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dysfunction.

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But very few people are going to come to you almost preemptively or someone like you

preemptively when there is a gait issue or an issue with pelvic alignment.

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But just to sort of start at the high level, could you sort of define posture, what it is,

and then why we potentially have such an issue with postural health in our society today?

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Yeah, for sure.

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So I guess posture in a nutshell is how our bodies can withstand gravity and the forces

that are placed on them.

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And of course that differs hugely from person to person, some that works in an office

compared to a professional athlete.

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But essentially posture is just trying to find its way for us humans to stand on two feet

and how we can do that.

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in our best way and start to navigate and move our body is essentially posture.

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However, posture of course can be affected in so, so many ways from stress, from the

positions that we hold most and of course how we train and the different types of training

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that we do.

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Some are less beneficial than others for posture.

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But yeah, postural dysfunctions is essentially, I guess,

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nice classy word for how you cannot essentially find a function, an optimal function

within the joint to produce what you need power-wise or absorption-wise to hold yourself

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on two feet well.

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And if there is a dysfunction at one joint then it's going to cause a chain reaction and

it's probably going to be compensated somewhere else.

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And over time, doing that again and again and again, that's when we get dysfunctions is

because you lost a function at one joint, you've now conversated with another and that's

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now causing a problem.

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And again, just like I mentioned, if there's a problem in the hip, there now might be a

problem in the knee and then the foot.

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So I guess postural dysfunction is, yeah, like I said, it's the inability to...

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to find a function at the joint, whether that's at the shoulder, you need internal

rotation, you need external rotation, you need flexion, you need abduction, you need

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adduction.

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So if one of those components goes, then of course, your body's gonna try to find it

somewhere else.

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And a lot of, as we've mentioned, rehab methods, they don't look at the whole body.

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Yeah, again, it's just an isolation.

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Do you think that those, those possible postural issues then sort of are potentially the

reason why people then get injured?

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Or is it an exacerbating factor?

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do you think?

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Or is it the most people just sort of come to you with these sorts of injuries, maybe

sporting injuries specifically as a result of maybe just more bad luck than anything else?

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Yes, some of it is for sure.

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Some of it is, yeah, sportsmen, they've gone over on their ankle and they've been in great

shape, they've never had an injury before.

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And sometimes it is just bad luck for sure.

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Other people, they've been in chronic pain and injury all their lives and they've tried

all the methods and that's not worked.

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And that's when they then try to go down different avenues and they find...

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biomechanics specialist like myself.

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Some people it's an accumulation of just poor posture, know, sitting down too much, not

moving their bodies enough and then that's you know causing you know limitations in their

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joints or you know compression which I'm sure we'll speak about a little bit more.

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So yeah sometimes I see a range of different people, it can be sportsmen, it could be just

somebody off the high street,

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you know, sometimes it's even young children that have, you know, sometimes they've grown

up and they're they're biased in one side of their body and that's causing a problem, you

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know, quite quickly.

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So yeah, it doesn't matter who I see, the kind of, the problem is the same, but it just

depends on how they got there.

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I guess that's different.

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So, especially with adults, you know, typically family life, they forget about their kind

of whole movement.

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since they left secondary school and they gave up PE, you know, they start to move less,

their stress levels increase and of course then starts to start to accumulate over time

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and yes, if you're going to move less and not look after yourself, you're going to be at

high risk of injuring yourself as well.

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But again, a lot of seated positions, lot of desk workers, you know, they're not moving

their hips relatively.

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So then of course their back starts to seize up.

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And then I think their backs just sore because, you know, their backs sore.

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But realistically, it's not just the back, it's the ribcage, it's the pelvis that are not

being able to find those intricate movements and all of a sudden their back hurts.

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But it's not worth to say the back would be the problem.

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Sometimes it would be the shoulder, it might be the neck, it could be the knee, it be the

ankle.

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It just depends how, for that person and their structure makeup, where it goes to, I

guess.

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Yeah, I think that sort of points to how important individualized approach to this is.

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And again, why you can't just sort of take this cookie cutter approach and just maybe

follow an online program.

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mean, I've definitely done that in the past where you sort of just try and follow a

company access sort of guide to rehabilitating all your issues and all you've got to do is

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wall angels and loop bridges and and then your heel bit.

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it really doesn't work.

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just something we'll get to again later, but I just I can't emphasize enough the need to

have someone like yourself working with you with you as an individual to help isolate

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these problems because it's it really is.

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I mean, I would like to think I'm relatively well, not well read, but that I understand

least the basics in this field.

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But still, it's it really is like trying to find a needle.

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a haystack if you don't know what you're looking for.

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Anyway cool I'd like to sort of dive into into fascia again and yeah without nitpicking on

your contemporary counterparts.

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Why?

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Okay let me start off with a question before sort of asking why people don't look at

fascia.

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What is fascia and why is it sort of

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paramount to sort of what you do because I know that's something you focus a lot on

because I have to deal with it on a weekly basis.

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Yeah, mean, fascia is one of these things that people hear about and they're just like, I

don't have that or I don't need to work on that or I don't understand it.

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So we'll just we'll just leave it.

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But people understand muscles.

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But I'd like to say in few years time that people start to learn more about fascia than

they do about muscles.

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fascia is just a connective tissue and it supports, you know, muscles, bones, nerves,

organs.

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It's everywhere.

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And that's why it's so, so important.

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The best way I like to explain it to the listeners and to maybe the viewers is fascia is

like a sausage and the muscle inside or the meat inside that sausage is the muscle.

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But the fascia would be that thin casing that's around the sausage which holds its shape

and it's pretty strong.

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like it can do some amazing things.

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It should be elastic.

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But unfortunately because of the way we move or the way we don't move or the way we eat,

the way we sleep, stress levels, it becomes less elastic and that's when the troubles come

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in.

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But essentially if we don't have healthy fascia then we're not going to be able to

maintain the integrity of our structure and it's going to make us, yeah.

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It's going to, we're going to find it harder to move if our fascia is less healthy and

dehydrated and sticky.

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And I guess what we have with fascia, you've got two, you've got three different layers.

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You've got the superficial layer, which is just underneath the skin, connects with the

fat.

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You've got the deep fascia, which is surrounding the muscles, the bones, the nerves.

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And then you've got the visceral fascia, which is more around the internal organs.

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So there's lots of fascia and there's, know, we all want to, we're trying to improve.

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all three but really we want the ones that is you know more around the muscles and bones

and that's what I'm looking at.

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So the deep fascia is what we're trying to improve the health form because that will help

move our bones and then of course that allows us to move more freely.

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So yeah sorry I'm probably rambling on a bit more there so I'm sure you've got more

questions on fascia.

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Yeah, no, I was just going to sort of ask sort of beyond the basics of maybe just not

moving correctly.

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Are there any sort of other triggers as to why fascia, excuse me, would be become maybe

dysfunctional?

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I mean, you pointed to hydration.

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that is that just a case of poor movement leading to fascia becoming dehydrated in a

sense?

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Is it a case of that someone maybe not becoming

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not being in the literal sense hydrated enough, maybe not getting enough electrolytes in,

or are there other reasons?

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obviously, if you have these, and I mean, so many people obviously do today, you have sort

of comorbidities as well, high levels of inflammation in the body as a result of some

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state of dis-ease, it were, whether that's an infection or some sort of chronic fatigue or

whatever.

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Are these

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sort of contributing issues towards this sort of fascial dysfunction?

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Or is it really just a case of maybe sedentary behavior?

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yeah.

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Yeah, think the most important one I look on is the behaviours of their bodily movements

every day.

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The first one is if we're not moving our bodies dynamically enough, then it's going to

become sticky, it's going to become dehydrated and joints and muscles are not going to be

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able to glide so effortlessly and that causes dysfunction, it causes you to feel tight,

which is, I know, very common in...

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today's society, people are like, I'm always feeling tight and stiff, so I must stretch.

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But they don't need to stretch.

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They don't need to stretch necessarily.

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It's more to do about rehydrating their fascia, which going on to methods on how to

improve fascia hydration, we can of course go into that.

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But yeah, of course there's other things that do contribute to poor fascia.

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Hydration is one of them, course, we need to, of course, drink enough.

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It doesn't necessarily connect hugely.

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So if somebody drinks a lot of water, it doesn't necessarily mean your fascia is going to

be healthier because you still need that fluid to move into the fascia.

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that comes from movement and that comes through acupressure techniques, which will then

place that negatively charged water into the fascia.

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So, yeah.

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Sorry, probably not.

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That's perfect.

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Just Yeah, maybe let's just go to take a deeper dive into some of the other techniques

that sort of are utilized quite commonly to sort of support facial health things like is

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it a thing or and Graston techniques?

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Do you think those are effective?

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I mean, if you type in roll thing or grass and into Google search now, you will probably

be greeted by Google safe search filter, because some of the

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some of those images are pretty horrific when people have had that sort of that that

fashion those fashion adhesions broken up.

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It looks like they've just been through the ring and being beaten senseless is just so

much at least superficial bruising that seems to appear.

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Do you think those are effective or are they just doing more damage than they are good?

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Yes, I don't want to cause anyone any harm by maybe that's what they do for a service but

I would say there's a lot, there's other comfortable ways to improve fascia than just

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maybe getting a nice big metal comb on your leg and you're just going to sit there until

you cry because that's how it makes you feel.

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I've experienced it myself and yes it will cause benefit, it will cause more.

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or to pull into the fascia and become more elastic.

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But that's not the long term fix that people need.

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They need to be moving more dynamically.

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They need to be moving more multi-dimensionally, meaning they're moving their bodies in a

way that replicates human movement, i.e.

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standing, walking, running, throwing.

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And those are the movements that we need to do more of and less isolated movements like

typical bodybuilding training.

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is isolation.

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know, you go to the gym, you hit your chest, you hit your arms, you hit your legs, you hit

your calves.

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But training that way is just going to pull on the fascia and it's going to isolate those

areas for that day.

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And then you're causing almost disconnect between fascia chains.

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So we want to get from our feet up to our head and those chains all from the head to the

to the feet working together.

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just like little elastic bands connecting and they're all doing the same job at once,

rather than let's just use the chest and the arms and that's what we're gonna do for that

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day.

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Because if you think about the body, when does it ever move like that?

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You never do a movement and your chest and your arms are just working.

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It's, what are you doing?

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Are you reaching up to grab a can of beans out of the cupboard?

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And your torso's rotating, you're on your tiptoes, you're looking, and so you're next

moving.

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Fashion needs to be more addressed with certain types of movement, with certain types of

acupressure techniques.

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And people can do those every day.

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As you know, sometimes I give you those acupressure techniques before we start to train

because it will make you move better and you'll be able to get in better positions.

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And people can do that, but it takes a change of training style.

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And of course, knowledge to know what acupressure technique to do, which is something I

offer as something online you can grab and you can do 10 to 15 minutes a day and your

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fascia will be more rehydrated, it'll be more elastic.

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And then if you went into your workout with multi-dimensional movements, you wouldn't need

to stretch and you wouldn't feel stiff.

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However, typically in today's society, what you get is...

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people go to the gym and hit their legs, then they go to do their chest the next day, then

they separate their cardiovascular work, and then they go, I'm tired, I'll book in for a

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massage, or I'll book in for some techniques that you've mentioned, and that might help

for a day or two after, and then of course they go straight back to how they felt before

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the treatment, but they don't necessarily need to feel like that, they could never feel

tired ever again, and never need to stretch again.

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And that's something I'm sure that you're probably going to mention, but we don't need to

statically stretch.

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that's such a myth, posture myth is you need to stretch.

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You don't need to statically stretch if you move dimensionally and you're moving in

rotational planes and the whole fascia is working as one.

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You shouldn't ever need to statically stretch.

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Dynamic stretching will happen in muscles as you're going through those motions.

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We just need to start to, society just needs to take another look on training.

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And of course that's what I advocate and that's what I try to teach clients.

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unfortunately there's millions of people in the world and there's thousands of people

around my area that may never know because I work one to one a one to one basis.

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But fingers crossed, things like this amazing podcast, you'll find out people listening

and hopefully can start to learn.

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those ways of treating their body and think about the skeleton and think about fascia

before they just think about size of muscles and what their muscles can produce in terms

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of how much dead lifting can I do and how much weight can I push.

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We need to think about the body a little bit more systemically so it feels good all the

time.

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Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more.

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And I think, well, courtesy of the sort of maybe stalking your Instagram account, I'd

definitely be able to find a few people online who think a bit more sort of fluidly for

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want of a better word, maybe that's a pun.

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But yeah, I'd love to chat about the training stuff in a bit, but let's sort of have a

quick discussion just about stretching.

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Do you find that there are a lot of people?

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harm who come to you who tend to use sort of pointed to earlier, having tried to deal with

their pain by just overstretching and sort of then creating more issues than they're not,

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or is it less of an issue than maybe I think it is?

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No, I think it is quite a big issue.

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think, yeah, we are stretching instead of doing myofascial release techniques.

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We're stretching because our skeleton is in a certain alignment, which is causing muscles

to tighten up.

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So that means that the muscles are actually not the problem.

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It's actually the position of the skeleton that we need to improve and also the joint

position.

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And therefore that joint then, sorry, that...

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that muscle then wouldn't feel tight so you wouldn't necessarily need to stretch.

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Just like for an example is the hamstrings.

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Most people go, my hamstrings, I cannot touch my toes.

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Actually, most cases people have an anterior, know, 80 % of the population have an

anterior pelvic tilt, meaning their ribs flare and they also combine that with their

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bottom looking like it's sticking out.

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So they have that really big lordosis, that big arch shape in their lumbar spine.

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However, if you think about the skeleton, when that pelvis rolls forward and the ribs

flare, the hamstrings will naturally stand in left from position.

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So from the back of the knee to the bottom, just imagine an elastic band is constantly

being stretched.

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And then you're asking yourself to find more pelvic tilt forwards as you're touching your

toes.

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So if you don't have any more forward pelvic tilt, you can't touch your toes.

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So the muscles in your hamstrings are always going to feel tight.

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So however, if we looked at the pelvis in another way and we start to get that pelvis to

roll back into a neutral position underneath the ribs, then the hamstrings start to find a

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little bit more, they become a little bit more slapped and they don't become so

lengthened.

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Then somebody wouldn't experience that whole tightness of their hamstrings and they would

probably be able to touch their toes because they're able to roll their pelvis on top of

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their femurs and automatically they would have, you know, better mobility or flexibility

in their eyes.

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So yeah, there's a big difference between, you know, the problem isn't the muscle.

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It's not the stretching that you need.

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It's positioning first.

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And of course, what I see on a day-to-day basis is everybody has a slightly different

position of their pelvis or their ribcage.

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And then it's about addressing that with specific movements for them rather than just

like, you know, one exercise fits all, which unfortunately most of the time

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doesn't happen because somebody might not be able to get onto the floor, somebody might

not be able to rotate yet, or they're very fearful of it, which comes back down to, you

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know, the model we spoke about is, you know, you're treating people with emotions and

we're human, so we need to be mindful of what positioning we're doing with them to start

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with until they gain control and then you can start to maybe go back into the exercise

deeper down into their training career, I guess.

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Yeah, no, sort of already.

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How do I best describe this apart from saying all roads lead to Rome?

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Yeah, I think well, apart from saying it's spot on, because I do fundamentally agree with

you.

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Well, not fundamentally completely, in fact, but you've really sort of created the perfect

segue into my next sort of of talking points, which is the pelvis and something that I've

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personally struggled with for a number of years, which I think is

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fundamentally at the root of my problems, which are these various sort of pelvic tilts, as

you sort of alluded to earlier, you obviously get different types of pelvic tilts, you get

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lateral pelvic tilts and these sort of more sagittal pelvic tilts where you've got either

a sort of a Donald Duck phenomenon, phenonym, I should never say that word again, because

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I can't get it right.

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Where you sort of have your

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to be blunt about your ass sticking out a bit.

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And then you've obviously got the inverse, which is where it's sort of tucked in.

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In my understanding, for a lot of people anyway, people I've sort of talked to over the

years and then suggested that they see someone such as yourself, most of them have, they

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appear to have their issues rooted in this sort of pelvic dysfunction, whether it be

lateral, as I said, or the sort of sagittal.

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all these sagittal issues.

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Could you sort of speak to that further?

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And why potentially I might be completely off base here?

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Why pelvic stability is so important when talking about someone's biomechanics?

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Yeah, for sure.

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You know, if you think about what the pelvis is doing for movement, it's absorbing, it's

allowing us to yield.

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So the spine, the rib cage and the pelvis, they all need to work together and they all

need to have the right amount of motions.

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The pelvis, as you said, it can have many different shapes and it can have many

different...

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positions at rest, but then of course when you move it can heighten and intensify that

motion that it's doing, which causes then problems, you know, further into the muscle

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chains.

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But yeah, lots of people have different types of different types of pelvis position.

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So we have sway back where, you know, the glutes are heavily underneath us and the rib and

sorry, the pelvis is more externally rotated.

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So if you think about a flower,

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it's going out like this so then somebody's glutes are really tucked underneath them

they're really holding them from falling forwards which is very similar I guess to an

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anterior pelvic tilt but the difference is what the pelvis is doing so sometimes the

pelvis is pushing forwards but it's not tilting forwards so that's two different types but

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as you say we sometimes have a tilt where

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we actually have a hike.

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So there's one hip higher than the other, which then of course, as you move, that will

cause you to try to push out of that side because you cannot find any more space on the

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pelvis.

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So yeah, I guess the pelvis is really the source of absorption and power.

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So we need both, of course, to move better and move well.

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and the pelvis should always be addressed whenever there's a dysfunction in the body.

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Yeah.

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Again, it's something I can attest to personally.

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And I think it's the root of at least most of my issues as far as as far as I can tell

anyway.

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Again, maybe you could attest to that.

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do you have I know this is like asking how long a piece of string is.

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But do you have any sort of general hacks or tips or sort of just general idea is that

people can use to start sort of

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correcting a pelvic tilt maybe before they come and see you.

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I know the one and maybe I'm here I'm thinking more of sort of movement patterns that

people shouldn't be sort of falling into.

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I think the one that stereotypically sort of jumps into my head off the bat is the mom on

her phone holding the baby on the hip trying to do five things at once and then that

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creating that sort of imbalance as a result of that one hip being hiked up so that

obviously she can hold the baby on it and that is very

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generalized and stereotypical, course.

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But are there any sort of movements that people should maybe not be sort of sort of

partaking in to sort of drive that dysfunction to begin with?

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I guess there's so many, there's so many like the one as you mentioned, you know, how big

technology is these days, we're all staring down at our phones and being online all the

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time.

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So that causes, you know, that forward head position.

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But I guess the first thing that I do with any client is teach them how to restore

something called zone of opposition, which is the relationship between the rib cage and

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the pelvis.

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So we just want to make sure those two things are steps on top of each other.

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The stack as you know all about that.

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It's pretty cruel through dynamic movements as you know.

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It's pretty tasty.

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It gets your muscles really firing to try and hold that.

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So the floor is a great way and a great tool to use to allow somebody to learn how to

regain that zone of opposition.

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With the breathing, with the combined breathing that we do, the corrective breathing in

terms of looking at the tongue position and how we breathe in and how we breathe out

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correctly, that will allow us to retrain that zone of fat position and teach the body to

hold that.

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So the best position I would personally or the best exercise I would personally do with

somebody is to lay on the floor with their knees at 90 degrees and their hips at 90

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degrees.

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their feet are shoulder-per-part and I just place my hand or I'd get them to place their

hands just next door to their belly button and the cue that I really like that works very

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very well without crunching their core muscles and trying to find it that way is talk

about the label that they have in the back of their shorts or their trousers and trying to

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place that label on the ground.

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What that does is allow them to subtly pull their pelvis back rather than trying to

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find it from crunching from their core and then their head lifts up and they're getting

too tight in their six pack muscles.

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So once they've got that label on the ground and they're relaxed in their legs and they're

relaxed in their head is get them to breathe in a certain way that is optimal, which most

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of us know is that we should use our nose for breathing and our mouth is for eating and

singing and talking and communicating.

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The way we breathe is breathing in through the nose, gently, calmly, shouldn't make a

sound.

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And then on the exhale, you can breathe out through a nice wide mouth, which then allows

those tummy muscles on the side of our hips to start engaging.

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And we just want to make sure whilst we're doing this, we're relaxed and that we don't

have any head tension.

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We're not tightening up anywhere.

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And we're just maintaining that label on the ground whilst breathing.

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And that is a fantastic way to restore

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the stack, so the pelvis is right underneath the ribs.

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And it allows you to train up the tummy muscles to get back some balance.

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So that's a fantastic exercise and there's lots of many things that movement itself does,

but I won't go into too far.

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But that's probably the best one I'd say is any floor exercises to start with, then you

can retrain, which as you know, I will take that into then more upright positions and see

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if they can maintain that.

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there which is you know they'll be they'll be they'll be told when they can they can do it

and you know I'll be honest with them and say that if they can't then we're staying back

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to the floor for a few weeks.

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Just keeping an eye on the time.

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How much time do you have?

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Errr, I have probably about 20 minutes.

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00:39:34,432 --> 00:39:35,222

Okay, perfect.

387

00:39:35,222 --> 00:39:36,063

Yeah, right.

388

00:39:36,063 --> 00:39:48,928

So what we'll do then is I want to get through some I suddenly realized that maybe we

should talk about head posture and tongue ties and but I think that we might run out of

389

00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:49,888

time.

390

00:39:50,709 --> 00:39:53,270

Unless that's something that you would would like to talk about.

391

00:39:53,270 --> 00:40:01,053

So next time was maybe going to sort of talk about more about just go into why the

bodybuilding side of things is potentially an issue.

392

00:40:01,053 --> 00:40:03,094

So maybe we could segue there.

393

00:40:03,094 --> 00:40:04,274

And then

394

00:40:06,351 --> 00:40:11,862

follow up with how to find a practitioner and then some rapid fire questions.

395

00:40:12,107 --> 00:40:13,111

Yeah, man, that sounds good.

396

00:40:13,111 --> 00:40:13,610

Yeah.

397

00:40:13,610 --> 00:40:16,773

Okay, let's get back to where I was.

398

00:40:16,773 --> 00:40:18,909

Okay, so...

399

00:40:22,094 --> 00:40:24,014

Yeah, I can attest to that as well.

400

00:40:24,014 --> 00:40:32,654

I think for the first month, at least you had me just laying on my back, sort of squeezing

a ball between my legs staring at the ceiling.

401

00:40:32,654 --> 00:40:34,414

And I was just wondering what the hell I was doing.

402

00:40:34,414 --> 00:40:48,794

But it definitely sort of helped me to sort of to feel when I was walking, I like my

glutes started to walk a bit more, I just had a bit more, I felt a bit more neutral,

403

00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:49,710

obviously didn't fix

404

00:40:49,710 --> 00:41:00,866

problem, but I didn't feel like there was as much sort of tension in those those quadratus

lumborum muscles, those sort of deep muscles between the ribs and the hip hips that tend

405

00:41:00,866 --> 00:41:03,197

to get very tight and so many people.

406

00:41:03,197 --> 00:41:11,361

So yeah, it's definitely sound advice and a great place to start.

407

00:41:11,522 --> 00:41:13,422

Just sort of tie up there.

408

00:41:13,423 --> 00:41:19,586

As I mentioned earlier, working with practitioners like you is first prize and but

409

00:41:19,598 --> 00:41:29,489

you are a bit of a snowflake in the sense that you're well I think yeah that could it

depends where you're on the world that could be right.

410

00:41:29,489 --> 00:41:31,982

from London, I am a Southern fairy.

411

00:41:31,982 --> 00:41:35,164

I don't know, we'll bypass that one by that.

412

00:41:35,164 --> 00:41:39,507

You're not I mean, you're you're certainly unique in your skill set.

413

00:41:39,507 --> 00:41:42,388

And yeah, let's put it like that.

414

00:41:42,508 --> 00:41:50,783

And and unless someone's maybe in Teesside or Northeast England, they probably don't have

direct access to you.

415

00:41:50,783 --> 00:41:54,385

But and I know you offer some online services as well.

416

00:41:54,385 --> 00:41:59,028

But for people who are listening or maybe are broad or just get

417

00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:02,815

other side of the country or what have you or want a personalized approach.

418

00:42:03,237 --> 00:42:11,340

What should they be looking for when they are looking for a practitioner such as yourself

to help them with their with their issues?

419

00:42:12,193 --> 00:42:27,824

Yeah, I think somebody needs to think outside the box and maybe, maybe not look at your

typical gym settings where a lot of maybe typical trainers are using machines.

420

00:42:27,824 --> 00:42:38,892

You know, and we want to start looking more at trainers that look at the body as a whole

body approach rather than just let's go onto a machine and, you know, just build up some

421

00:42:38,892 --> 00:42:39,772

strength.

422

00:42:39,772 --> 00:42:40,712

So,

423

00:42:41,673 --> 00:42:44,755

Yeah, I guess there's probably directories out there.

424

00:42:45,436 --> 00:42:58,025

But if you can find somebody that understands rotational movement, and they are looking

more at mastering body weight movements, and they touch on breathing mechanics, and they

425

00:42:58,025 --> 00:43:06,371

look at kind of the whole nervous system as well and how it plays a role when you're, you

know, when you're training, maybe possibly from an injury.

426

00:43:07,032 --> 00:43:09,353

But I'd say the best, yeah, the best.

427

00:43:10,217 --> 00:43:21,679

Advice I would say when looking for a trainer is make sure they are looking or they like

to incorporate rotational movements within their sessions as well as all of the breathing

428

00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:27,974

work and the whole holistic approach of actually moving their body as one.

429

00:43:28,095 --> 00:43:30,370

That would be the best recommendation.

430

00:43:30,370 --> 00:43:32,411

Yeah, that's sound advice.

431

00:43:32,411 --> 00:43:43,679

I think what sort of struck me most about you when I sort of was looking around was the

fact that you were had a very strong emphasis on facial health and the rotation stuff, as

432

00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:48,132

you mentioned, I think, just through my own experience as well.

433

00:43:48,132 --> 00:43:58,889

So many practitioners just tend to focus on the sort of unilateral movements, isometric

movements, without sort of taking into account

434

00:43:59,884 --> 00:44:11,878

yeah, the sort of the spinal spinal engine as it were the fact that the spine controls so

much movement and that has and that there is an asymmetry in the spine or hips that that

435

00:44:11,878 --> 00:44:19,380

that can't, at least for the most part and again, in my experience be necessarily

corrected just with the sort of unilateral movements.

436

00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:23,261

So yeah, that's that's amazing advice.

437

00:44:24,222 --> 00:44:24,682

Awesome.

438

00:44:24,682 --> 00:44:26,004

I'd like to pivot

439

00:44:26,004 --> 00:44:33,498

into some fun stuff now and maybe we can talk about training, specifically in athletic

populations.

440

00:44:34,299 --> 00:44:50,267

Now obviously most people who train are going to do so for the purpose of aesthetic goals

and obviously for health reasons as well.

441

00:44:50,727 --> 00:44:54,869

Everybody knows that they need to exercise to remain healthy.

442

00:44:56,904 --> 00:45:01,949

But training an athlete is always something that's been a great interest to me.

443

00:45:01,949 --> 00:45:04,821

Obviously, it's very context dependent.

444

00:45:05,422 --> 00:45:10,527

And it depends on the sport depends on individual their goals and all that good stuff.

445

00:45:10,527 --> 00:45:14,370

But when working with an athlete, how do you approach?

446

00:45:15,892 --> 00:45:17,113

How do you approach that?

447

00:45:17,113 --> 00:45:23,098

I mean, do you follow a sort of a periodized model, whereby maybe you sort of have them

doing

448

00:45:23,138 --> 00:45:34,028

If for example, and maybe we can use an example of an endurance athlete, would you have

them working through a strength period and then focus more on endurance work?

449

00:45:34,028 --> 00:45:36,911

Do you sort of just keep it consistent throughout the year?

450

00:45:36,911 --> 00:45:40,874

How do you sort of look at that plotted out and then work with them?

451

00:45:41,343 --> 00:45:44,294

Yeah, no, that's a very, very good question.

452

00:45:44,294 --> 00:45:48,515

And sportsmen are funny creatures.

453

00:45:49,615 --> 00:45:54,137

They, as you say, it depends on what sport it is.

454

00:45:54,137 --> 00:46:01,039

you know, the first thing about learning about any athlete is what demand are they under?

455

00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:02,339

Are they a seasonal athlete?

456

00:46:02,339 --> 00:46:03,800

Are they somebody that plays all year round?

457

00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,025

Of course, typically, if they're high level, they do have a season.

458

00:46:09,025 --> 00:46:12,745

So then training should be based around that.

459

00:46:13,005 --> 00:46:21,625

But if we look at an example of an endurance athlete, let's just say typically they

compete in six months of the year and it's during summer time.

460

00:46:22,645 --> 00:46:28,065

Then the first thing I would ask an athlete is where do you feel like you're weak?

461

00:46:28,065 --> 00:46:37,369

And just pass the buck over to them because they're the ones in their own body and they're

the ones that know if they get into a point in a race and they're like...

462

00:46:37,705 --> 00:46:44,069

I'm finding the sticky point here or, you know, I find that my legs are not very strong.

463

00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:53,013

Let's say it's a triathlete and let's just go in from the bike to the run or the run to

the bike and they're saying, that's when I'm feeling, I don't feel like my legs have very

464

00:46:53,013 --> 00:46:55,454

good power after my run.

465

00:46:55,755 --> 00:47:04,899

So finding out that first would be essential and that could be different for a rugby

player or a football player or a fighter.

466

00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:07,741

You just ask them, where do they feel like they're weak?

467

00:47:08,249 --> 00:47:15,012

I also have in the past taken quite a look at their actual performance and take a look and

analyse how they move.

468

00:47:15,012 --> 00:47:22,455

And if I can see any areas where they're compensating, then we'll address those and I'll

explain to them why.

469

00:47:23,009 --> 00:47:29,578

You know, you're finding maybe your legs are tiring out because you're compensating

somewhere.

470

00:47:29,958 --> 00:47:31,579

But yeah, it just depends really.

471

00:47:31,579 --> 00:47:36,641

An endurance athlete of course needs a huge base of respiratory...

472

00:47:36,641 --> 00:47:43,881

know, stamina and, you know, and that of course, shout straight at me is can they breathe

well?

473

00:47:43,881 --> 00:47:52,700

Because we can all kind of get through maybe a two mile run and kind of use our mouth, but

you know, these guys are hours and hours on end.

474

00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:55,121

So their breathing mechanics right now, need to be there.

475

00:47:55,121 --> 00:47:58,241

So, you know, we need to ensure that their diaphragm is strong.

476

00:47:58,241 --> 00:48:05,181

We need to ensure that they're not overly compressed in their rib cage because when

they're running, that's only going to heighten and they're to dump everything on top of

477

00:48:05,181 --> 00:48:06,443

their chest and that's.

478

00:48:06,443 --> 00:48:10,335

gonna cause their diaphragm not to be able to function properly.

479

00:48:11,836 --> 00:48:20,581

But yeah, mean, endurance athletes are, you know, one of these people or athletes, they're

the humans that will just want to train every day.

480

00:48:20,661 --> 00:48:22,992

And typically they won't do enough strength training.

481

00:48:22,992 --> 00:48:33,788

So incorporating a little bit of strength training into their week, maybe that's once or

twice, dependent on their, you know, history of strength training is they'll find a huge

482

00:48:33,788 --> 00:48:35,149

benefit to...

483

00:48:35,297 --> 00:48:39,800

to their running performance or whatever they might be endurance athletes in.

484

00:48:40,541 --> 00:48:44,844

And those strength movements want to replicate what they do in their sport.

485

00:48:44,844 --> 00:48:46,965

So maybe they're a swimmer.

486

00:48:47,426 --> 00:48:57,043

If they're a swimmer and they're endurance swimmer in that, then you need to replicate

what movements they do in the pool and what their joints are doing through that action and

487

00:48:57,043 --> 00:48:59,354

replicate that in the gym.

488

00:48:59,655 --> 00:49:02,717

And find as many specific movements as you can to...

489

00:49:03,393 --> 00:49:06,353

to essentially find that same demand that they're under.

490

00:49:07,433 --> 00:49:17,273

And I would always say that you start very, very basic and you build, you know, levels to

it as they get better and better and depending on where they are in the season.

491

00:49:17,373 --> 00:49:20,633

So through winter, they might need to do a lot of strength training.

492

00:49:20,993 --> 00:49:31,973

And then that way, as they get kind of closer into their season, they start to put more

and more kind of endurance runs into their routines and then strip away the strength

493

00:49:31,973 --> 00:49:33,273

training a little bit.

494

00:49:33,605 --> 00:49:36,717

but it all depends on the actual athlete.

495

00:49:36,717 --> 00:49:48,115

But something that is really very interesting in my coaching and I have trained a lot of

athletes is, know, everyone's individual and even though you might have two footballers,

496

00:49:48,536 --> 00:49:50,937

they might be totally different.

497

00:49:51,798 --> 00:50:01,844

But yeah, essentially with sport, you need to find specific movement patterns that they do

on the pitch, replicate that in the gym and build on those.

498

00:50:02,847 --> 00:50:05,190

And of course they need a lot of skill as well.

499

00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:09,184

you know, there's a lot of proprioception, there's a lot of awareness that they need.

500

00:50:09,184 --> 00:50:11,497

They might need to be quite tactical as well.

501

00:50:11,497 --> 00:50:13,509

So they need to actually be quite mentally sharp.

502

00:50:13,509 --> 00:50:19,236

So that's something that you can also add into physical demands in the gym, which, you

know, you can get really creative with.

503

00:50:19,236 --> 00:50:21,438

And that's something that I do really enjoy.

504

00:50:21,438 --> 00:50:24,241

I do enjoy training athletes quite a lot.

505

00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,811

Yeah, no, can imagine I can.

506

00:50:26,811 --> 00:50:28,551

Yeah, I can imagine that you do.

507

00:50:28,551 --> 00:50:35,333

It's it's great working with individuals who are just high performance high achievers.

508

00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:42,715

I was as you were just going through that I was just thinking of my sort of my days as an

endurance athlete.

509

00:50:42,755 --> 00:50:54,290

Well in my past now when I was a dead keen cyclist and it was my life's ambition to go pro

and all of that and yeah, I just I I wish I'd spent more time.

510

00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:56,832

focusing on positional strength.

511

00:50:58,093 --> 00:51:05,338

I think growing up cycling, you think you have a strong core, strong glutes, strong legs.

512

00:51:05,338 --> 00:51:13,864

And at the end of the day, all you end up with is strong quads, hammies, weak hip flexors

and weak glutes.

513

00:51:13,864 --> 00:51:22,490

it goes, yeah, and obviously, very little positional strength in the upper body, which

sort of, yeah, just going back to it, I just think

514

00:51:23,854 --> 00:51:35,474

what could I what would what could have been and those nostalgia and all that if I just

sort of spent more time there and maybe I'll get back to it hopefully I will but okay nice

515

00:51:35,474 --> 00:51:48,934

well I'll I'll I'll hold myself to that I'm not gonna hold you to that because it's on me

that's okay sweet well that's the deal we'll work to it anyway uh let's move

516

00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:59,814

on because I want to be aware of time and I also would love to sort of sort of have more

of a chat about where general strength training goes wrong.

517

00:51:59,814 --> 00:52:02,381

I know you've sort of touched on it already.

518

00:52:02,522 --> 00:52:12,810

And maybe we can bypass some of the the issues with with traditional bodybuilding and

strength training because we have already discussed it.

519

00:52:13,331 --> 00:52:16,754

But how does someone necessarily

520

00:52:17,066 --> 00:52:23,870

train for aesthetics when trying to take a functional approach to their training.

521

00:52:24,411 --> 00:52:29,003

I know that bodybuilding is obviously very much aimed at hypertrophy.

522

00:52:29,003 --> 00:52:33,336

mean, you've been a bodybuilder, you understand the demands there.

523

00:52:33,336 --> 00:52:43,962

You need to put more emphasis into sort of isolation movements to really focus on that

sort of those eccentric loads, time and attention.

524

00:52:44,769 --> 00:52:47,450

for a larger range of motion.

525

00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:58,710

And where that is definitely the case with a lot of functional patterns and functional

movements, there isn't necessarily that sort of that isolation work that is maybe optimal

526

00:52:58,710 --> 00:53:07,590

for hypertrophy, which again, in my mind is what at least 95 % of the population is after.

527

00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:12,650

And if they tell you that they're not, I think they're just lying because obviously

everybody wants to look good and feel good.

528

00:53:12,874 --> 00:53:28,382

So how do you mix those two up to the point where you can sort of be functional in your

movements, but then also make gains and without relying on trend and TRT and every other

529

00:53:28,382 --> 00:53:30,144

special source under the sun.

530

00:53:30,621 --> 00:53:39,765

No, I love this question because, you know, essentially that's where I've come from and

now taking the two is trying to merge them.

531

00:53:39,765 --> 00:53:46,788

So the first thing when I ever think about bodybuilding or bodybuilders now is think of

what movements they are doing.

532

00:53:46,788 --> 00:53:57,183

Typically, they are machines or yes, they could be dumbbells, barbells, but the

positioning of those movements are typically quite easy to get into.

533

00:53:57,791 --> 00:54:01,582

So, you know, sitting on a leg extension machine, you're already in that position.

534

00:54:01,663 --> 00:54:10,626

Or let's just say you're doing a lap pull down, you've got two nice handles situated right

over your head, and you've got something nice to, you know, put your knees under and

535

00:54:10,626 --> 00:54:12,147

that's going to hold you there.

536

00:54:12,147 --> 00:54:18,309

But then it takes away, that takes away the stability of doing that movement.

537

00:54:18,610 --> 00:54:24,742

But it also, it puts the joint into a position and you don't need to then think about the

joint throughout the action.

538

00:54:24,742 --> 00:54:27,423

So I would personally say,

539

00:54:27,451 --> 00:54:32,523

is we just need to think about the positioning that these people are getting in first.

540

00:54:32,523 --> 00:54:33,724

So i.e.

541

00:54:33,724 --> 00:54:46,009

if we're doing a lat pull down, you know, how can we make it a little bit harder for the

pelvis and how can we make the scapula move more at the same time as getting strong and

542

00:54:46,009 --> 00:54:47,130

building muscle mass.

543

00:54:47,130 --> 00:54:52,232

Now muscle can be grown loads of different ways, loads of different ways.

544

00:54:52,232 --> 00:54:54,933

Essentially a muscle just wants stimulus.

545

00:54:54,933 --> 00:55:01,037

and it doesn't know if it's using a five kilo dumbbell or 50, but it knows it's when it's

hard.

546

00:55:01,037 --> 00:55:12,806

So that will then of course, if we get into a really tough position, that means we don't

need to use as much weight and then we can just use duration to then intensify it.

547

00:55:12,806 --> 00:55:23,623

So with with a save a lap or down, what I like to do is get somebody sitting on the ground

almost in like a, a sideline position, but their legs are almost in like a figure of four.

548

00:55:23,989 --> 00:55:26,301

So like one foot laps on top of the other.

549

00:55:26,301 --> 00:55:29,943

And then we're almost like leaning to the side a little bit.

550

00:55:29,943 --> 00:55:34,196

So then we can get almost a stretch up and out.

551

00:55:34,196 --> 00:55:38,239

So that the scapula is getting quite pulled externally out around the rib cage.

552

00:55:38,659 --> 00:55:45,804

And then as we come down, we're twisting the handle and we're bringing the elbow into a

certain spot in between our groins.

553

00:55:46,505 --> 00:55:49,947

But whilst we're doing that, the twist is helping the scapula move.

554

00:55:49,947 --> 00:55:52,479

The position of your pelvis means

555

00:55:52,479 --> 00:55:55,832

that one hip is doing something relatively different to the other.

556

00:55:55,832 --> 00:55:58,383

And then we're looking to make sure the spine can stay tall.

557

00:55:58,383 --> 00:56:07,000

So at least we have some integrity from the core trying to work rather than just trying to

switch it off and yank as much weight down as possible.

558

00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,152

So you can just get really creative.

559

00:56:11,152 --> 00:56:15,856

And that's what I love about my work is that you can still build a lot of muscle.

560

00:56:15,856 --> 00:56:20,575

You can still build a lot of strength and you can look fantastically well.

561

00:56:20,575 --> 00:56:22,606

but still have great mobility.

562

00:56:22,606 --> 00:56:26,368

It just all comes down to exercise selection.

563

00:56:27,329 --> 00:56:34,273

So if you're doing your legs and you're always doing them on the leg press, well, you

think about a leg press, well, you're just pushing it forward and back.

564

00:56:34,573 --> 00:56:40,156

But if you did a lunge position, you have more stabilizing muscles needed to come into

play.

565

00:56:40,156 --> 00:56:43,919

And you can add in a little rotation as you go down as well to that side of the leg.

566

00:56:43,919 --> 00:56:48,353

And then that incorporates some obliques, that engages some QL muscles.

567

00:56:48,353 --> 00:56:52,833

And then your ankles are getting worked, know, they're getting that stability that you

need.

568

00:56:52,833 --> 00:56:54,453

So is your knee, so is your hip.

569

00:56:54,693 --> 00:56:58,233

So it's a simple little tweak that people can do.

570

00:56:59,093 --> 00:57:05,773

But the only thing about that is it means that people use less weight and lots of people

don't like to do that.

571

00:57:05,973 --> 00:57:11,233

And unfortunately, that's just the way we kind of, you know, we all like to push big

waves, who doesn't?

572

00:57:11,233 --> 00:57:13,093

It sometimes feels amazing.

573

00:57:13,253 --> 00:57:16,577

But for certain results, we can get them a lot simpler.

574

00:57:16,577 --> 00:57:19,977

with a lot less effort so we can get there in a smarter way.

575

00:57:20,477 --> 00:57:29,977

We like to work hard, I appreciate we all like to work hard, but we also can make really

smart choices to get a better result without putting so much demand on the joints and over

576

00:57:29,977 --> 00:57:39,537

long term that's going to ensure that the joint then doesn't wear out and you know we're

all going to get older so we need to make sure that the longevity of our joints are as

577

00:57:39,537 --> 00:57:42,597

good when we're 30 as good as when we're 60, 70.

578

00:57:42,597 --> 00:57:46,485

So it just depends on what exercise we're choosing can make a

579

00:57:46,485 --> 00:57:50,108

big difference straight away, but also long term.

580

00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:57,175

Yeah, I think it's just about questioning the paradigm in which you sort of operate and be

willing to sort of look outside the box.

581

00:57:57,175 --> 00:58:11,454

I think that someone like Michael Zretel, who I'm sure you're familiar with, definitely

sort of helped in that regard, with regard to talking about exercise selection and then

582

00:58:11,454 --> 00:58:14,246

also sort of

583

00:58:14,690 --> 00:58:22,046

range of motion and then also sort of focusing on movement quality and not necessarily

just the amount of weight that you're moving in.

584

00:58:22,046 --> 00:58:35,377

Yeah, getting that that muscle into the most inefficient position perhaps so that you then

can place the largest amount of stress on it with the lowest amount of weight because as

585

00:58:35,377 --> 00:58:38,890

you sort of alluded to earlier, the the muscle doesn't know

586

00:58:39,486 --> 00:58:51,719

what how much weight you're moving it only knows how much stress is being placed upon it

perhaps I suppose the joints in the nervous system are probably more sort of open to how

587

00:58:51,719 --> 00:59:08,834

much weight you're lifting if that makes sense yeah okay Harry I know we're starting to

run up on time so and thank you for that that that was an amazing an amazing answer but

588

00:59:08,834 --> 00:59:13,183

To sort of wrap up, I'd like to ask a few rapid fire questions if that's okay.

589

00:59:13,183 --> 00:59:14,326

They're just interesting.

590

00:59:14,326 --> 00:59:17,574

They sort of leave the audience with a few little nuggets of wisdom.

591

00:59:17,574 --> 00:59:18,784

Would that be okay?

592

00:59:19,221 --> 00:59:20,550

Yeah, man, how quick?

593

00:59:21,128 --> 00:59:26,882

or let's say, yeah, as quick as you can make them sort of 30 seconds, 60 seconds.

594

00:59:27,063 --> 00:59:28,224

But they don't have to.

595

00:59:28,224 --> 00:59:31,398

mean, yeah, just as simple.

596

00:59:31,398 --> 00:59:34,069

Yeah, as they roll off the tongue, let's say.

597

00:59:34,349 --> 00:59:40,194

So, okay, first one, what's the biggest myth about posture and movement that you see on

regular basis?

598

00:59:41,387 --> 00:59:42,695

people need to stretch.

599

00:59:43,596 --> 00:59:46,167

Yeah, okay, that was that was short to the point.

600

00:59:47,870 --> 00:59:48,770

Okay, cool.

601

00:59:48,770 --> 00:59:53,974

If you could do any one type of movement for from a longevity perspective, what would it

be?

602

00:59:55,323 --> 00:59:56,407

Just one?

603

00:59:57,432 --> 00:59:58,409

Okay, two.

604

00:59:59,073 --> 01:00:00,205

Run.

605

01:00:03,073 --> 01:00:06,802

and I would do Turkish get ups.

606

01:00:07,633 --> 01:00:09,204

that's a nasty one.

607

01:00:09,806 --> 01:00:12,008

Yeah, fair enough.

608

01:00:13,251 --> 01:00:21,762

Okay, what's the one movement pattern that you see people neglecting or not doing that you

think they shouldn't?

609

01:00:28,619 --> 01:00:46,107

would say so essentially the core the trunk stabilization so can the the call can the

trunk stay stable under different types of load from the side from top down from bottom up

610

01:00:46,614 --> 01:00:49,038

Okay, so all the positional strength stuff.

611

01:00:49,601 --> 01:00:50,702

Okay.

612

01:00:52,006 --> 01:00:52,788

Fair.

613

01:00:52,788 --> 01:00:53,199

Cool.

614

01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:57,698

If you could change one thing about how fitness is taught, what would it be?

615

01:01:09,447 --> 01:01:17,413

I would say it would be to take a more whole body approach.

616

01:01:17,413 --> 01:01:27,483

fitness coaches need to understand that what works for them personally as a coach or other

clients may not work for everyone.

617

01:01:27,854 --> 01:01:30,274

Yeah, I think that's, that's a decent answer.

618

01:01:30,274 --> 01:01:38,634

And I think that sort of also illustrates the fact that you probably shouldn't necessarily

follow your favorite influences worker online.

619

01:01:40,434 --> 01:01:48,594

Because let's be honest, at the end of the day, they got there, not denying that they

worked hard, but it's it's 99 % genetics.

620

01:01:49,014 --> 01:01:50,914

So that

621

01:01:51,254 --> 01:02:03,658

a good coach can understand that the movement for one person might work really well and

another person might need the exact same result or they might need that same kind of joint

622

01:02:03,658 --> 01:02:04,068

unlocking.

623

01:02:04,068 --> 01:02:05,378

Oops.

624

01:02:07,319 --> 01:02:13,440

But, you'll have to cut this hair off.

625

01:02:13,541 --> 01:02:15,401

My stand has just died.

626

01:02:17,188 --> 01:02:17,979

One second.

627

01:02:17,979 --> 01:02:19,872

That's all good, don't worry.

628

01:02:20,167 --> 01:02:23,384

I will just move that down and put this up here.

629

01:02:25,634 --> 01:02:26,074

That's fine.

630

01:02:26,074 --> 01:02:29,418

We've only got to do the basically.

631

01:02:29,418 --> 01:02:30,149

Yeah, that's fine.

632

01:02:30,149 --> 01:02:33,338

Okay, so

633

01:02:33,857 --> 01:02:35,611

go and ask it again, Rob.

634

01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:39,034

No, we've got the questions that that's fine.

635

01:02:39,034 --> 01:02:41,256

I think we're just blithering on.

636

01:02:42,399 --> 01:02:45,564

Luke can look, we'll very kindly be able to cut that out.

637

01:02:45,564 --> 01:02:47,478

So, okay.

638

01:02:47,616 --> 01:02:48,582

I answer it?

639

01:02:49,883 --> 01:02:51,583

Did we answer it?

640

01:02:52,464 --> 01:02:54,425

I think we did, we were just talking.

641

01:02:55,026 --> 01:02:57,067

Okay, well let me ask it again.

642

01:02:57,148 --> 01:03:00,610

If you could change one thing about how fitness is taught, what would it be?

643

01:03:02,707 --> 01:03:07,421

I would say that what works for one person may not work for another.

644

01:03:07,421 --> 01:03:14,426

So the exercise selection is key in getting a result.

645

01:03:14,607 --> 01:03:22,373

Two different people might need the same thing, but two people can be totally different in

terms of how they achieve it.

646

01:03:23,275 --> 01:03:31,381

So I would say a good coach would be able to see the same problem and be able to fix it 10

different ways.

647

01:03:31,623 --> 01:03:40,837

and use different positions, different types of modalities, intensities, positions to get

that same result.

648

01:03:41,176 --> 01:03:41,838

Perfect answer.

649

01:03:41,838 --> 01:03:43,282

Okay, final one.

650

01:03:43,282 --> 01:03:45,537

What's your go-to recovery technique?

651

01:03:46,577 --> 01:03:49,238

Ooh, err, eat?

652

01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:54,282

No, would say contrast therapy would be my favourite.

653

01:03:54,582 --> 01:04:01,506

So that means hot into cold, back to hot, back to cold.

654

01:04:01,587 --> 01:04:05,789

Yeah, my favourite is a sauna into a really cold plunge.

655

01:04:07,310 --> 01:04:12,018

I live in the north-east of England, I'll stick to the sauna bit for the moment, thanks

for my nervous system.

656

01:04:12,729 --> 01:04:16,770

It's going to be summer soon and it will still be only 12 degrees.

657

01:04:16,770 --> 01:04:17,610

There we go.

658

01:04:17,610 --> 01:04:19,171

Who needs a cold plunge?

659

01:04:19,171 --> 01:04:20,472

go outside.

660

01:04:21,953 --> 01:04:23,453

Harry, you've been a star.

661

01:04:23,453 --> 01:04:25,074

Thank you so much.

662

01:04:25,655 --> 01:04:28,236

I look forward to our next session, I think.

663

01:04:28,236 --> 01:04:34,199

But until then, and for everybody else, where's the best place they can find you?

664

01:04:34,379 --> 01:04:37,040

And obviously, willing to your socials all of that.

665

01:04:37,041 --> 01:04:40,362

Is there anywhere you'd like to point people specifically?

666

01:04:41,165 --> 01:04:47,249

I think the best place for most people would be to check me out on Instagram and that's

just at Tagfit.

667

01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:59,108

You can also look at my website which is tagfit.co.uk where that gives you pretty much the

five step process that I take most clients through, a little bit about me and there's

668

01:04:59,108 --> 01:05:03,042

plenty of pretty brilliant reviews on there as well from clients.

669

01:05:03,042 --> 01:05:04,643

Yeah.

670

01:05:04,643 --> 01:05:11,855

Yeah, and I'll attest that you really are by far and away the most knowledgeable

practitioner in this space I've ever worked with.

671

01:05:11,855 --> 01:05:20,927

So if anybody is in the northeast of England, then I can't recommend you enough and yeah,

say what you will but I'm a fan.

672

01:05:20,927 --> 01:05:24,268

So if you're listening and you have a dodgy back, Harry's your man.

673

01:05:24,268 --> 01:05:26,529

But yeah, thanks again, Harry.

674

01:05:26,529 --> 01:05:29,770

I appreciate the time and look forward to seeing you soon.

675

01:05:30,189 --> 01:05:31,498

Thank you very much Rob.

676

01:05:31,498 --> 01:05:32,540

Pleasure, mate.