1 00:00:00,270 --> 00:00:05,130 Nick: If you are working a nine to five and you truly enjoy what you do, 2 00:00:06,210 --> 00:00:09,540 you're golden, you have the security you're doing what you love to do. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,360 And like, why change that? 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,260 For me, it was a little different because I was doing a nine to five, like, yes, 5 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:20,820 it was giving me the financial freedom that I was, that I'm looking for. 6 00:00:20,910 --> 00:00:23,880 But at the same time, it, it took away something that was very 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,050 important to me in that was my. 8 00:00:26,369 --> 00:00:29,220 And it's not doing something that I'm super passionate about. 9 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:33,180 So if I'd say, if you can find something that you're passionate about and 10 00:00:33,180 --> 00:00:36,960 it's in a nine to five setting, like more power to you, like you got it 11 00:00:36,989 --> 00:00:38,400 nailed down, you got to figure it out. 12 00:00:39,089 --> 00:00:39,210 Yeah. 13 00:00:39,930 --> 00:00:43,379 You can't figure that out or find that in the nine five setting, then maybe 14 00:00:43,650 --> 00:00:46,980 taking a look at what you can do in the entrepreneur space or what you can build 15 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:49,260 yourself is a better route for you. 16 00:00:50,099 --> 00:00:53,730 Danny: This week I'm talking with Nick Nalbach, host of the Nine-Five Podcast, 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,970 a show that shares entrepreneurial stories to help you start, build 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,470 and grow your own online business. 19 00:00:58,890 --> 00:01:00,330 Nick I really appreciate you being here. 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,449 I know we've come back and forth a couple of times trying to make this happen. 21 00:01:03,870 --> 00:01:05,280 So really appreciate you being here. 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,050 How about you, uh, tell us a bit about yourself and your podcast. 23 00:01:09,495 --> 00:01:10,905 Nick: Absolutely first off, Danny. 24 00:01:10,905 --> 00:01:12,255 Thanks for bringing me on. 25 00:01:12,255 --> 00:01:14,205 I'm super excited to be talking here with you today. 26 00:01:14,685 --> 00:01:20,685 Um, then I find podcasts kind of came out as a way for me to interview 27 00:01:20,685 --> 00:01:24,615 entrepreneurs, find out what their journey was like transitioning out 28 00:01:24,615 --> 00:01:28,245 of a nine to five job into their own business that they built. 29 00:01:28,905 --> 00:01:34,275 And I guess the whole premise behind why I did that was because I kind of wanted to. 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,940 Escape the nine to five for myself for one, but I want to 31 00:01:38,940 --> 00:01:40,380 take people along on that journey. 32 00:01:40,740 --> 00:01:45,240 And before I decided that I wanted to go down that entrepreneurial route 33 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:48,030 and do the podcast and do all these different things, I didn't really 34 00:01:48,030 --> 00:01:49,260 think that it was something I could do. 35 00:01:49,620 --> 00:01:50,220 I always thought I was. 36 00:01:50,970 --> 00:01:54,960 Dedicated to people like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and like all those 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,400 guys that like way at the top. 38 00:01:56,430 --> 00:01:58,800 And I was like, well, I can't, I'm not going to be Jeff Bezos. 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,120 Like, who am I? 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Like, I'm going to stick in a nine to five job. 41 00:02:02,190 --> 00:02:06,390 And I actually read a book that completely changed my mindset on the whole thing. 42 00:02:06,780 --> 00:02:07,080 And. 43 00:02:08,340 --> 00:02:11,100 Since then I was like, holy cow, like there's gotta be other people that are in 44 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,520 a similar situation where they're like, I don't feel comfortable in my nine to five. 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,490 I can't see myself doing this for however many years. 46 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:21,270 And I don't know whether options there are so. 47 00:02:22,155 --> 00:02:25,095 By them coming along on the journey, listening to the podcast, guests that 48 00:02:25,095 --> 00:02:27,915 I bring on the show, hearing their stories of the jobs they used to work 49 00:02:27,915 --> 00:02:31,815 to what they're doing now, kind of shows people that there are other things out 50 00:02:31,815 --> 00:02:35,025 there and kind of gives them examples of different businesses that they 51 00:02:35,025 --> 00:02:36,495 might be able to create themselves. 52 00:02:36,855 --> 00:02:40,515 And we really focus on the back half of our episode, like stretch 53 00:02:40,545 --> 00:02:43,905 strategy, tactical type stuff, to anybody who wants to start their 54 00:02:43,905 --> 00:02:45,105 business or continue growing. 55 00:02:45,105 --> 00:02:46,515 It can get some value out of 56 00:02:46,515 --> 00:02:46,725 Danny: that. 57 00:02:47,145 --> 00:02:49,125 And how have things evolved since that first episode? 58 00:02:50,595 --> 00:02:50,894 Nick: Yeah. 59 00:02:50,894 --> 00:02:55,665 So actually, when I decided to do the podcast, I wasn't 60 00:02:55,665 --> 00:02:57,345 actually going to do a podcast. 61 00:02:57,795 --> 00:03:00,584 I kind of just started doing it. 62 00:03:00,975 --> 00:03:03,915 Um, I actually wanted to get into video content and the 63 00:03:03,915 --> 00:03:07,095 video content scared me so bad. 64 00:03:07,605 --> 00:03:10,605 Like getting into video, just freaked me out and. 65 00:03:11,445 --> 00:03:11,895 I thought. 66 00:03:11,895 --> 00:03:15,465 Okay, well, rather than me talking in front of a camera that awkward, 67 00:03:15,465 --> 00:03:18,345 like, I don't really know what to do with my hands type of situation, 68 00:03:18,765 --> 00:03:20,175 rather than be caught there. 69 00:03:20,175 --> 00:03:22,365 Like I can bring on people and interview them. 70 00:03:22,605 --> 00:03:26,145 And now it's me having a conversation, not me just talking to a camera or a lens. 71 00:03:26,775 --> 00:03:29,625 And so that's kind of why I wanted to do interview. 72 00:03:30,704 --> 00:03:32,894 Once I actually launched the podcast. 73 00:03:33,165 --> 00:03:38,984 I realize how amazing of a platform it is to have conversations with amazing people. 74 00:03:39,494 --> 00:03:43,994 Like I'm talking to highly successful people that if I didn't have a podcast, 75 00:03:43,994 --> 00:03:45,045 I wouldn't have that opportunity. 76 00:03:46,065 --> 00:03:50,115 So it became less about me trying to build a podcast and 77 00:03:50,115 --> 00:03:52,695 have a space for my audience. 78 00:03:52,935 --> 00:03:55,815 Like that's a big part of it, but now it's also like the relationships 79 00:03:55,815 --> 00:03:58,335 and the connections that I'm building from having a podcast have 80 00:03:58,335 --> 00:03:59,895 been just absolutely phenomenal. 81 00:04:00,615 --> 00:04:01,605 Danny: Has the experience. 82 00:04:01,605 --> 00:04:04,695 You just said that video you're uncomfortable being in front of the 83 00:04:04,695 --> 00:04:06,585 screen, you get the sort of stage right. 84 00:04:06,585 --> 00:04:09,485 Of your like has experienced from the audio version. 85 00:04:09,495 --> 00:04:12,495 Is that, so it perhaps made you think of revisiting video for 86 00:04:12,495 --> 00:04:12,675 Nick: the. 87 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:14,910 Oh, absolutely. 88 00:04:15,450 --> 00:04:20,190 Um, I actually, so from the very beginning, because I'm very, very much 89 00:04:20,220 --> 00:04:22,470 thinking about the content side of things. 90 00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:25,740 So right from the beginning, when I started the show, I 91 00:04:25,740 --> 00:04:27,270 actually was recording videos. 92 00:04:28,530 --> 00:04:31,770 I've published very few videos from my show. 93 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:34,080 I've published some, there's a couple on YouTube and a couple on 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,470 Instagram that I've shared, but I just knew that I wanted that content. 95 00:04:37,620 --> 00:04:42,390 I don't want to get a hundred episodes in and then realize, you know what, I 96 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:44,250 want to start incorporating video now. 97 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:47,190 And then be like, well, I could have had a hundred episodes worth of content 98 00:04:47,190 --> 00:04:48,750 to share, and now I got nothing. 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,660 So I did actually start recording the videos. 100 00:04:51,660 --> 00:04:54,150 I just haven't published them a lot, but it definitely has. 101 00:04:54,625 --> 00:04:59,095 Built my confidence up a lot to where I'm getting more into kind of the 102 00:04:59,585 --> 00:05:03,955 talking head videos and tutorial-based videos and that type of thing. 103 00:05:04,255 --> 00:05:07,615 Um, I'm still dabbling with it still trying to figure out the process because 104 00:05:07,735 --> 00:05:12,175 that's a whole nother beast in terms of editing and all that, but it's 105 00:05:12,175 --> 00:05:16,255 definitely boosted my confidence a lot, and I feel a lot more comfortable doing 106 00:05:16,255 --> 00:05:20,125 that type of content, which has been a huge benefit to start in the shows. 107 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:25,140 Danny: And I can imagine, obviously we have the way, I guess, podcast 108 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:28,080 charts or interviews like this have evolved over the last two years. 109 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,350 We COVID and in face in person versus remote. 110 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:32,130 Like we record them. 111 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:34,440 Does that make it easier as well? 112 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,150 You think being, in-person having a camera on you, as opposed to maybe two 113 00:05:39,150 --> 00:05:43,110 people chatting, like we are with cameras, what, what you feel would be easier? 114 00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:48,890 Nick: You know, I, I have never actually interviewed anybody in person because 115 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:52,530 when I started it was right in the middle of COVID I've always thought it'd 116 00:05:52,530 --> 00:05:55,040 be awesome to do in-person interviews. 117 00:05:56,145 --> 00:06:00,705 And kinda be able to, I don't know, more like hanging out with a buddy, you can do 118 00:06:00,705 --> 00:06:04,005 the same thing on zoom, but it's, I dunno, there's a different feeling in person, 119 00:06:04,005 --> 00:06:07,125 I guess when you're hanging out with someone versus zoom calling with somebody. 120 00:06:07,605 --> 00:06:12,405 Um, but I do really appreciate these platforms that are coming 121 00:06:12,405 --> 00:06:14,745 up like this boom caster that we're recording on right now. 122 00:06:14,745 --> 00:06:16,395 And I use Riverside for my show. 123 00:06:17,355 --> 00:06:20,565 It's it's giving me an opportunity and giving all podcasters an 124 00:06:20,565 --> 00:06:23,175 opportunity to interview people, regardless of where they're at in the. 125 00:06:24,255 --> 00:06:28,184 And I think that's super cool because I've interviewed people that are from the UK, 126 00:06:28,484 --> 00:06:31,815 Switzerland, India, like I've interviewed people from all over the world. 127 00:06:31,815 --> 00:06:36,525 And if it was just an in-person interview show likely I wouldn't be able to get 128 00:06:36,525 --> 00:06:39,405 those guests on the show because either they're not gonna be able to come to me 129 00:06:39,405 --> 00:06:40,664 or I'm not gonna be able to go to them. 130 00:06:40,965 --> 00:06:42,255 So it's, it's definitely open. 131 00:06:43,185 --> 00:06:46,065 Like a new level of opportunity in the podcasting 132 00:06:46,065 --> 00:06:46,305 Danny: space. 133 00:06:47,145 --> 00:06:49,755 And it's interesting, you mentioned that one of my guests I had on a 134 00:06:50,035 --> 00:06:53,415 last season, I think it was, she mentioned that one of her all-time 135 00:06:53,415 --> 00:06:57,465 heroes was an entrepreneur from London that lived in Sydney, Australia. 136 00:06:57,465 --> 00:06:59,265 So there was no way she's in San Francisco. 137 00:06:59,745 --> 00:07:03,585 There's no way she could ever really get out to interview her, but she 138 00:07:03,585 --> 00:07:06,795 was up at 40 and one morning and they were chatting via Riverside, fallen 139 00:07:06,795 --> 00:07:09,975 off, uh, and talk him, you know, and that was her guests for that show. 140 00:07:09,975 --> 00:07:12,075 So it's I think to your point, it's definitely. 141 00:07:12,975 --> 00:07:17,475 A lot easier and more effective for podcasters to become more 142 00:07:17,475 --> 00:07:18,585 involved on the chat side. 143 00:07:19,185 --> 00:07:20,055 Nick: Yeah, absolutely. 144 00:07:20,115 --> 00:07:26,115 I, I just can't speak to that enough because it's, I don't know to me, like 145 00:07:26,115 --> 00:07:29,985 I started out blogging, like that's kinda how I was taking people along 146 00:07:29,985 --> 00:07:34,605 on my journey was through blogging and it was so incredibly difficult. 147 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:39,120 To get interviews with people like, Hey, can I interview you for a blog 148 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,380 article that I'm trying to write? 149 00:07:41,010 --> 00:07:42,330 Doesn't sound that appealing. 150 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:45,900 Most people might just ignore you, or it's like pulling teeth to try to get 151 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:50,130 someone to talk to you about that kind of stuff or talk on your articles, I guess. 152 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:54,390 But then as soon as I had a podcast, you can reach out to people and 153 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:56,790 like, oh, you have a podcast that must mean you have an audience. 154 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:58,260 You have a platform for me to speak on. 155 00:07:58,260 --> 00:08:00,090 I can be present and. 156 00:08:01,170 --> 00:08:05,490 That's why I think is so cool is because anybody can get any guests within reason. 157 00:08:05,490 --> 00:08:08,550 Obviously, if it's probably going to have a hard time getting Joe Rogan on 158 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:13,080 your podcast, but you can pretty much reach anybody in the world through 159 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,430 social media and what have you. 160 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:18,360 And if you have a podcast, you already have something to offer them. 161 00:08:19,380 --> 00:08:20,710 You have that platform to speak. 162 00:08:21,690 --> 00:08:23,190 Danny: And it's funny how that mindset works. 163 00:08:23,190 --> 00:08:27,060 Uh, I used to blog, uh, years ago, uh, like yourself and I found that 164 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:29,940 people didn't want to guest blog, but once a podcast came along, it's 165 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:32,309 a different conversation altogether. 166 00:08:33,150 --> 00:08:33,360 Nick: Yeah. 167 00:08:33,630 --> 00:08:36,939 And I dunno to me writing it. 168 00:08:36,939 --> 00:08:41,329 It's so it's so time-consuming for one, but it was always frustrating. 169 00:08:42,555 --> 00:08:47,205 'cause I'd, I'd sit down to write and I could speak everything that 170 00:08:47,205 --> 00:08:49,755 I wanted to write in probably a half hour, but it would take me 171 00:08:49,755 --> 00:08:54,015 three hours to get this all down on paper, but, and I can articulate it. 172 00:08:54,015 --> 00:08:56,895 I feel like a lot better just talking like on a podcast. 173 00:08:57,375 --> 00:09:03,915 So I think it caters more towards people's like natural, like ability to communicate. 174 00:09:05,115 --> 00:09:08,495 I know, it's, it's often times harder to communicate in writing, or are you talking 175 00:09:08,495 --> 00:09:10,125 about like text messaging back and forth? 176 00:09:10,485 --> 00:09:14,145 It becomes very difficult to communicate in text when you don't have like 177 00:09:14,505 --> 00:09:18,195 the feedback of the person you're speaking to, or you can kind of 178 00:09:18,195 --> 00:09:20,145 gauge how the conversation is going. 179 00:09:20,475 --> 00:09:23,415 So to me, it's a lot more comfortable experience. 180 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,570 It's just like, it's almost more natural 181 00:09:27,170 --> 00:09:29,600 Danny: and, and speaking to natural, and obviously your, your guests that 182 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,200 you have on your various ad guests, uh, across different mediums, if you like 183 00:09:33,530 --> 00:09:36,950 an episode of your show had CALSEIA rehome uh, and she was sharing her 184 00:09:36,950 --> 00:09:41,180 journey from going from a full-time employed mental health counselor 185 00:09:41,570 --> 00:09:43,250 to look into open her own practice. 186 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:46,760 And one of the things that she spoke about was imposter syndrome. 187 00:09:47,330 --> 00:09:51,170 And that, that seems to come up a lot, um, with entrepreneurs, I find. 188 00:09:52,575 --> 00:09:57,555 Not believe in or not feeling you're qualified or not as good as the next 189 00:09:57,555 --> 00:10:01,635 person, if you like, do you find that it's like a particularly synonymous 190 00:10:01,635 --> 00:10:05,085 trait of entrepreneurs or content creators in general perhaps are? 191 00:10:05,955 --> 00:10:06,285 Nick: Yeah. 192 00:10:06,315 --> 00:10:12,315 I, I definitely think a good majority, if not all entrepreneurs and content 193 00:10:12,315 --> 00:10:15,615 creators have that feeling of imposter syndrome at some point. 194 00:10:16,575 --> 00:10:21,645 And I don't know necessarily what it takes to kind of get beyond that. 195 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:25,470 Or if you ever do get beyond it, maybe it's just varying levels 196 00:10:25,470 --> 00:10:27,570 of when or how you experience it. 197 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,415 But I think when you dive into something new, You would like automatically 198 00:10:32,415 --> 00:10:35,175 we have this instinct of like, especially something where you're 199 00:10:35,175 --> 00:10:39,135 like on a stage, like podcasting or YouTube, or actually going on stage, 200 00:10:39,135 --> 00:10:40,605 like you're in front of an audience. 201 00:10:40,605 --> 00:10:42,855 Like all these thoughts start going through your head. 202 00:10:42,855 --> 00:10:45,525 Like, well, what if they think I don't sound smart? 203 00:10:45,525 --> 00:10:47,444 Or what if they don't agree with what I'm saying? 204 00:10:47,444 --> 00:10:50,564 Or like all these thoughts start running through your head to basically put 205 00:10:50,564 --> 00:10:54,465 yourself down and you look at all these other people that are out there crushing 206 00:10:54,465 --> 00:10:56,595 it, doing what you want to be doing. 207 00:10:56,865 --> 00:10:59,465 And you're like, well, how am I supposed to be like that? 208 00:11:00,645 --> 00:11:04,245 Like Danny's got a podcast already and he's crushing it. 209 00:11:04,605 --> 00:11:07,845 Like if I get into a pocket, I'm not going to create a podcast as good as Danny. 210 00:11:08,205 --> 00:11:09,945 So why, why would I do that? 211 00:11:10,815 --> 00:11:14,715 And it kind of, we, it's easy to kind of talk ourselves down because of that. 212 00:11:15,105 --> 00:11:17,835 When to me it's something that I battled with as well. 213 00:11:17,835 --> 00:11:20,445 Like I said, getting in front of the video was terrifying to me because I 214 00:11:20,445 --> 00:11:24,135 wasn't happy with quality, the content I felt like, well, other people are doing 215 00:11:24,135 --> 00:11:26,565 better content and it held me back. 216 00:11:27,315 --> 00:11:33,555 But I soon realized that a lot of the things that we are critical of 217 00:11:33,555 --> 00:11:36,345 ourselves on no one will even notice. 218 00:11:37,515 --> 00:11:37,665 And. 219 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 One of the biggest things that I kind of had to overcome with the podcast is like, 220 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,890 okay, well, people are going to hear this. 221 00:11:43,890 --> 00:11:47,250 If I don't sound intelligent, why are they going to listen to me? 222 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:50,640 And it's a common thought, but. 223 00:11:51,585 --> 00:11:54,495 I think we all think that like right when we launched a podcast where like, kind 224 00:11:54,495 --> 00:11:57,825 of psyching ourselves out, that there's going to be like a million listeners on 225 00:11:57,825 --> 00:11:59,535 day one and everyone's going to hear it. 226 00:11:59,535 --> 00:12:01,005 And everyone's going to be like, oh my gosh, I can't 227 00:12:01,005 --> 00:12:01,965 believe you did that podcast. 228 00:12:01,965 --> 00:12:02,595 That was terrible. 229 00:12:03,165 --> 00:12:05,805 And after you actually launched the podcast, it's like, dang it. 230 00:12:06,195 --> 00:12:07,095 I need to get more listeners. 231 00:12:07,095 --> 00:12:07,965 How do I get more listeners? 232 00:12:07,965 --> 00:12:09,795 I can't get any listeners. 233 00:12:10,455 --> 00:12:13,245 So it's, it's weird that we kind of psych ourselves out of something 234 00:12:13,245 --> 00:12:15,765 that's like not realistic at the time. 235 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:17,100 You know what I mean? 236 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:17,670 Danny: Yeah. 237 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:21,450 And it always reminds me, um, that, that three is like, if you're a public 238 00:12:21,450 --> 00:12:25,980 speaker, for example, and you're nervous about going up on stage and you're told, 239 00:12:25,980 --> 00:12:29,760 well, just picture the audience naked or in their underwear and you'll be fine. 240 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,860 But then you think, well, yeah, but the majority of them are going to look 241 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:33,270 about it than I do in my underwear. 242 00:12:33,270 --> 00:12:36,810 And I've got even more issues and problems with, it's always something 243 00:12:36,810 --> 00:12:38,610 like you said, that that puts us off. 244 00:12:38,650 --> 00:12:41,760 I feel, especially for podcasts as a few, we get so caught up 245 00:12:42,060 --> 00:12:43,650 in the, behind the scenes stuff. 246 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:45,430 Uh, the tech that's needed. 247 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:48,190 Tell us notice I had the downloads to market and all that stuff, as 248 00:12:48,190 --> 00:12:52,450 opposed to getting our ideas out there and Nan Caney grown it from there. 249 00:12:53,170 --> 00:12:54,250 Nick: Yeah, absolutely. 250 00:12:54,400 --> 00:13:00,580 And that's something like, so I don't have a huge audience by any means, but. 251 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:04,800 I have listeners that will contact me and get in touch with me and 252 00:13:05,170 --> 00:13:06,449 give me feedback on the episode. 253 00:13:06,449 --> 00:13:09,990 And some of them, like they do tune in every single week and they're like, oh 254 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:12,900 my gosh, like this episode was so gold. 255 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:14,400 Like I was taking notes the entire time. 256 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,930 This episode was going like that feeling of even just getting the feedback and 257 00:13:18,930 --> 00:13:21,420 like helping one person feel so cool. 258 00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:21,930 You're like, wow. 259 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,910 My content did have an impact. 260 00:13:24,420 --> 00:13:29,160 Even if it was one person or 10 people or a million people, like your content 261 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,540 that you're creating can have an impact. 262 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:38,430 And likely if you're not finding like growth in the show, you're just not 263 00:13:38,430 --> 00:13:39,210 in front of the right people yet. 264 00:13:39,930 --> 00:13:42,600 But eventually the right people are going to find you and they're going to 265 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,189 want the content that you have to share. 266 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:45,420 And 267 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:48,990 Danny: that ties me to a question about task actually, Bo uh, another 268 00:13:48,990 --> 00:13:53,280 guest, um, Alex San Philipo, um, who's, he's the founder of a couple of 269 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,360 tech issue, uh, tech platforms, but I know a pod much, um, is one of them. 270 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:01,980 And he was speaking in that episode about focusing on problems before ideas. 271 00:14:02,620 --> 00:14:05,560 That as podcasters, we're probably guilty of this a lot, which was just 272 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:07,630 mentioned where we have a great idea. 273 00:14:07,630 --> 00:14:10,930 We launched a new show, but then wonder why the listeners on that. 274 00:14:10,930 --> 00:14:14,710 And, and often it's because we didn't have a problem to answer with the show before 275 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:19,180 launching now, obviously with your show and your topic and your guests, you have 276 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,190 what the problem is for your listeners and you and your guests can bring the solution 277 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:28,990 with the conversations and the examples that your guests share is launching. 278 00:14:28,990 --> 00:14:29,830 Or this is. 279 00:14:30,735 --> 00:14:33,915 Doing something before you have a solution for the problems, that's 280 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:35,175 something that you've been gelling often. 281 00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:36,765 And how did you change that mindset? 282 00:14:37,845 --> 00:14:38,655 Nick: Oh, absolutely. 283 00:14:38,745 --> 00:14:39,795 I still do that. 284 00:14:41,745 --> 00:14:44,685 I get so excited and I think this is really common too, with people 285 00:14:44,685 --> 00:14:45,915 who are starting their own business. 286 00:14:46,965 --> 00:14:50,385 You get so excited about it, you get excited about launching, coming 287 00:14:50,385 --> 00:14:53,355 out with it, where you just start pushing it out and you don't take 288 00:14:53,355 --> 00:14:54,465 time to really think about it. 289 00:14:55,125 --> 00:14:59,565 And I actually just went through this a couple months ago. 290 00:14:59,655 --> 00:15:03,015 Um, I'm in the process of launching an e-commerce business right now. 291 00:15:03,435 --> 00:15:03,675 And. 292 00:15:04,590 --> 00:15:05,699 I had this idea. 293 00:15:05,939 --> 00:15:08,970 I didn't really do a whole lot of research, like just enough to kind 294 00:15:08,970 --> 00:15:13,770 of know what I wanted to do and just started going like gung ho right at it. 295 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,750 And after I had pretty much the entire website built, I have product, I have 296 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:20,790 inventory sitting in my room right now. 297 00:15:21,330 --> 00:15:22,199 I realized that. 298 00:15:22,995 --> 00:15:27,795 There were other competitors in the space that I would be overshadowed by greatly. 299 00:15:28,005 --> 00:15:31,965 And I had to kind of rethink my messaging and my branding and my actual target 300 00:15:31,965 --> 00:15:34,605 audience throughout this whole business. 301 00:15:34,665 --> 00:15:36,915 Like the, the products that I'm selling. 302 00:15:38,245 --> 00:15:41,245 Can still be sold that I didn't lose money on the inventory, 303 00:15:41,245 --> 00:15:42,415 like buying that upfront. 304 00:15:42,715 --> 00:15:47,425 But I had to spend the last couple of months actually reshaping what that 305 00:15:47,425 --> 00:15:50,905 business model is actually going to look like, who I'm going to be targeting, 306 00:15:50,905 --> 00:15:54,145 how I'm going to actually message, like, get my message out to them. 307 00:15:54,685 --> 00:15:54,835 And. 308 00:15:55,484 --> 00:15:57,344 It sent me back quite a bit. 309 00:15:57,344 --> 00:16:00,194 I'm still, I think within the next month or two, I should 310 00:16:00,194 --> 00:16:01,515 be launched and ready to go. 311 00:16:01,515 --> 00:16:05,535 But I had planned to have this thing launch back last August and had 312 00:16:05,535 --> 00:16:07,214 I just done the research upfront. 313 00:16:07,814 --> 00:16:10,964 I would have saved myself a whole lot of time of going and 314 00:16:10,964 --> 00:16:12,285 redoing everything basically. 315 00:16:12,854 --> 00:16:16,814 Danny: And do you think that's, cause obviously you'd mentioned that you're 316 00:16:17,175 --> 00:16:21,795 still, I think you're still fully employed at the moment and this is something 317 00:16:21,795 --> 00:16:23,295 you're aiming towards to be full-time. 318 00:16:24,645 --> 00:16:25,484 Yeah, that is correct. 319 00:16:25,515 --> 00:16:30,314 So do you feel that maybe the, um, like obviously, as you mentioned, as the 320 00:16:30,314 --> 00:16:33,584 research had been, that it would have, would have been a lot quicker for sure. 321 00:16:33,795 --> 00:16:37,365 But do you find that obviously you you're kind of limited as well because 322 00:16:37,755 --> 00:16:40,694 there's only so many hours that you currently have on a day to try get 323 00:16:40,694 --> 00:16:44,175 the stuff you need to do to move to this entrepreneurial lifestyle. 324 00:16:45,915 --> 00:16:49,935 Nick: Yeah, I think that definitely plays a factor in it, for sure. 325 00:16:50,445 --> 00:16:55,275 Um, I know it's, it's never easy to be working a nine to five job. 326 00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:59,355 Well, also trying to build something on the side, like I said, there's a, like you 327 00:16:59,355 --> 00:17:02,685 said, there's only so many hours in the day, so how do you kind of divvy that up? 328 00:17:04,260 --> 00:17:08,160 The big thing is really trying to focus on the things that matter. 329 00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:09,930 And this is something I'm guilty of too. 330 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:15,150 I get caught up in the little things, like kind of more of the busy work, like the 331 00:17:15,150 --> 00:17:19,800 social media marketing and like that kind of stuff where I don't spend enough time 332 00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:26,550 on say, editing my podcasts or building out the website on my e-commerce business. 333 00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:29,220 Like there's so many factors that. 334 00:17:30,135 --> 00:17:33,764 Can help push me along and get me there faster, but I kind of get sidetracked and 335 00:17:33,764 --> 00:17:37,725 derailed by some of these little things that really don't matter right now. 336 00:17:38,504 --> 00:17:41,445 So I think that the biggest thing to try to overcome that as really 337 00:17:41,445 --> 00:17:43,845 pinpoint, like, what can I do right now? 338 00:17:43,845 --> 00:17:48,375 That's going to get me one step closer to my goal, whether that's leaving the 339 00:17:48,375 --> 00:17:52,575 nine to five or just creating additional income for yourself, like, what is 340 00:17:52,575 --> 00:17:54,585 the one thing I can do right now? 341 00:17:55,125 --> 00:17:57,495 That's going to get me one step closer or have an impact on that. 342 00:17:58,754 --> 00:17:59,055 And I, I 343 00:17:59,055 --> 00:18:01,965 Danny: know I I've heard from a lot of entrepreneurs that mentioned. 344 00:18:02,715 --> 00:18:07,665 That you need at least say six to seven revenue streams to make everything because 345 00:18:07,665 --> 00:18:10,995 if one goes away, then you're still covered by the other six, for example. 346 00:18:11,504 --> 00:18:14,115 But if you get that these different revenue streams in these different, 347 00:18:14,325 --> 00:18:18,975 um, opportunities that can help that process as well, where you can afford. 348 00:18:19,570 --> 00:18:23,410 To take the time away and step away from the 95 and build up what you're 349 00:18:23,410 --> 00:18:25,960 trying to build is is that something you're aiming towards as well with 350 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,740 the e-commerce and the podcasts and anything else that you may have going on? 351 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,450 Nick: Yeah, that's my goal is to try to be as diversified as possible. 352 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,550 That is manageable. 353 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:40,330 Um, but I also realize that it's not something that I 354 00:18:40,330 --> 00:18:42,280 can completely do on my own. 355 00:18:43,125 --> 00:18:44,895 Right now with where I'm at. 356 00:18:45,254 --> 00:18:49,725 I know I have to kind of struggle by myself for right now until I get to a 357 00:18:49,725 --> 00:18:54,854 good point where I can start outsourcing or hiring and bringing in more. 358 00:18:56,275 --> 00:19:01,165 Um, but I know to get to the point that I want to be at and have multiple 359 00:19:01,285 --> 00:19:04,555 businesses and multiple revenue streams coming in, I'm going to 360 00:19:04,555 --> 00:19:06,235 have to bring in some kind of help. 361 00:19:06,805 --> 00:19:11,455 And I know it's going to be a, a tough thing to do what I've been doing. 362 00:19:11,455 --> 00:19:12,535 Everything myself for so long. 363 00:19:13,155 --> 00:19:16,875 Um, like kind of preparing myself and hyping myself up for that moment, because 364 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:20,205 I know I'm going to have a hard time just like handing something over to 365 00:19:20,205 --> 00:19:26,084 somebody, but it is essential if you want to really grow and expand, because 366 00:19:26,145 --> 00:19:27,554 you can only do so much as one person. 367 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:28,725 Danny: Exactly. 368 00:19:28,735 --> 00:19:33,074 And I think, um, I mean, as a podcast that you know yourself, we, we do a lot 369 00:19:33,074 --> 00:19:34,514 of this stuff ourselves on the backend. 370 00:19:34,514 --> 00:19:36,945 So editing record and research and marketing, et cetera. 371 00:19:38,365 --> 00:19:41,905 To grow, even though you don't really want it handed off that there comes 372 00:19:41,905 --> 00:19:44,095 a point where you're going to have to hand it off to say, okay, this 373 00:19:44,095 --> 00:19:47,965 person's bachelor, that margin than I am, or this person's a quicker editor 374 00:19:47,965 --> 00:19:50,065 and a more effective editor than I am. 375 00:19:50,485 --> 00:19:54,235 And I think Lacy, you don't want to hand it off, but at some 376 00:19:54,235 --> 00:19:56,275 stage you do realize that has 377 00:19:56,275 --> 00:19:57,085 Nick: to be the next step. 378 00:19:58,525 --> 00:20:01,405 I actually, I interviewed, I think it was max board. 379 00:20:01,405 --> 00:20:01,645 This. 380 00:20:02,745 --> 00:20:03,585 On my show. 381 00:20:03,675 --> 00:20:07,845 And we were kind of talking about that, like the hiring people, bringing them into 382 00:20:07,845 --> 00:20:13,035 your business to kind of like eliminate yourself from the job or the business. 383 00:20:13,545 --> 00:20:16,635 And as soon as he was able to hire help, he hired part-time help. 384 00:20:17,475 --> 00:20:20,385 And as soon as he could afford to hire them full time, he hired him. 385 00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:24,165 Full-time and every step of the growth process. 386 00:20:25,630 --> 00:20:29,650 When he bring in more money, he'd hire someone to do whatever he's 387 00:20:29,650 --> 00:20:32,410 currently working on, but knows it can do a better just like what you 388 00:20:32,410 --> 00:20:35,350 were saying, bringing in someone who can do a better job than you can. 389 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,840 So he's like social media is not my thing. 390 00:20:38,260 --> 00:20:41,890 So what I do, I hired a social media manager because they 391 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:42,970 crush it on social media. 392 00:20:42,970 --> 00:20:46,510 They love doing social media and they're going to do a way better job than I can, 393 00:20:46,510 --> 00:20:49,890 especially when I'm spread across however many other things that I'm focused. 394 00:20:50,865 --> 00:20:55,815 And he just kept slowly firing himself as the way he put it from his own 395 00:20:55,815 --> 00:20:59,715 positions in his business until his business is fully self-sustaining 396 00:20:59,715 --> 00:21:01,845 right now without him even being there. 397 00:21:02,865 --> 00:21:03,825 Danny: No, it was pretty cool. 398 00:21:03,825 --> 00:21:05,235 And yeah, that's, that's. 399 00:21:06,490 --> 00:21:08,760 Aware that I'd love to Realty to go that route. 400 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,450 For sure. 401 00:21:10,620 --> 00:21:14,220 I know your podcast, it covers several topics, but that I'll all the guests, 402 00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:18,600 for example, are connected to each other via entrepreneurship and a story behind 403 00:21:18,810 --> 00:21:20,670 their goals or what they've done so far. 404 00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:23,100 And I was curious, do you have a particular fear? 405 00:21:24,030 --> 00:21:27,330 And to your gas, to, or even the topic that the guest spoke about. 406 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:29,820 And if he did, I don't want to put you on the spot and say, all the 407 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:31,020 other guests want as good as this one. 408 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:32,790 That's not, not what I'm trying to say there. 409 00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:35,700 Um, but do you have a particular flavor and if so, why that 410 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:37,800 particular interview or charter? 411 00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:39,090 Nick: Yeah. 412 00:21:39,149 --> 00:21:41,430 Th there are a couple that come to mind. 413 00:21:41,490 --> 00:21:44,940 Um, one of them was. 414 00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:51,555 I think it's episode 36 and it was with pat Flynn. 415 00:21:51,705 --> 00:21:53,835 I'm not sure if you're familiar with pat or not. 416 00:21:54,345 --> 00:21:55,545 Um, that was. 417 00:21:56,764 --> 00:22:01,925 Just from like a personal standpoint, like that was such a, an amazing experience 418 00:22:01,925 --> 00:22:06,034 because I've looked up to pat for, I don't know how many years and kind of 419 00:22:06,034 --> 00:22:09,185 going back to what we were talking about before, like the podcasting being a 420 00:22:09,185 --> 00:22:13,084 way to open up doors and opportunities that otherwise wouldn't be there. 421 00:22:13,715 --> 00:22:16,054 I never would have been able to interview pat had I not had a podcast. 422 00:22:16,844 --> 00:22:21,524 And six months after I had launched the show, I had pat on my show and it 423 00:22:21,524 --> 00:22:23,865 was like such a surreal experience. 424 00:22:23,865 --> 00:22:26,084 Cause I've watched his videos, I've listened to his podcasts. 425 00:22:26,115 --> 00:22:31,965 And when he called into the, the like Riverside chat and he showed up, there 426 00:22:31,965 --> 00:22:33,705 was like, holy cow, like, this is real. 427 00:22:33,705 --> 00:22:35,985 Like he's actually sitting in front of me to talk to me right now. 428 00:22:37,094 --> 00:22:41,625 Um, but then I guess in terms of like content, like obviously. 429 00:22:42,794 --> 00:22:43,514 Enjoy the interview. 430 00:22:43,514 --> 00:22:47,925 We covered some great topics on that, but just recently I had an interview. 431 00:22:47,985 --> 00:22:53,084 His name is Ken Atard and he is a mindset coach. 432 00:22:53,774 --> 00:22:58,635 And that episode just absolutely blew me away the way that he. 433 00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:04,020 Was talking about our minds and how we think and how the way we think 434 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:09,480 is actually limiting ourselves to a insane degree was so fascinating to me. 435 00:23:10,260 --> 00:23:14,939 And he actually brought up, he said, I think it was like 95% of 436 00:23:14,939 --> 00:23:19,500 the thoughts you have today were the same thoughts you had yesterday. 437 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:25,620 So, if you are having bad thoughts or negative thoughts, or you feel down 438 00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:29,220 on yourself because you're struggling and you just can't seem to figure it 439 00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:32,430 out, if you're having those thoughts today, chances are, you're going to 440 00:23:32,430 --> 00:23:33,720 have those thoughts again, tomorrow. 441 00:23:34,110 --> 00:23:36,300 If you have those thoughts again, tomorrow, you're going to have them the 442 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:38,040 next day and so on and so on and so on. 443 00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:43,890 So we really got into like, talking about how to retrain your brain in 444 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:46,590 your mind, to focus and make things. 445 00:23:47,610 --> 00:23:48,510 It's not all bad. 446 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,500 Yes. 447 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:55,200 You encounter some struggles, but you have to focus on the good and retrain yourself 448 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,990 to become more aware of the good things that are happening around you and not get 449 00:23:57,990 --> 00:24:00,780 so consumed by the negative that episode. 450 00:24:00,780 --> 00:24:05,310 Like I left that interview and I was like, holy cow, like that was, I need 451 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:08,760 to sit for a second and just think about that because it just completely blew 452 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,440 my mind, but he was completely right. 453 00:24:11,325 --> 00:24:12,465 Danny: I'll have to listen to that one. 454 00:24:12,465 --> 00:24:18,075 That signs as somewhat, I listened to a podcast by Jim quick, um, and read some of 455 00:24:18,075 --> 00:24:21,705 his books and it, he talks about a similar thing where that the main set is all 456 00:24:21,705 --> 00:24:26,445 about the results or can they have a huge effect on the results you're trying to 457 00:24:26,445 --> 00:24:28,065 achieve versus what your actual achieve. 458 00:24:28,065 --> 00:24:31,545 And so that sounds like a D and I can tell just by listening to your reaction 459 00:24:31,545 --> 00:24:34,575 there, you know, after that, so it sounds like a really fascinating, absolutely. 460 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,639 Nick: Yeah, it was, I was pretty blown away. 461 00:24:38,669 --> 00:24:40,169 I did not expect it to go that way. 462 00:24:40,169 --> 00:24:41,760 And it, it went that way. 463 00:24:43,050 --> 00:24:45,570 Danny: No, obviously you're still a pretty young guy. 464 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:50,459 Um, but you've already led a fairly busy life and continue to do so. 465 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,699 Um, I know that you mentioned that you travel with your wife, family and your two 466 00:24:53,699 --> 00:24:56,580 Shiba Inu dogs as a tool and as a chaotic. 467 00:24:57,645 --> 00:24:57,885 Yep. 468 00:24:57,915 --> 00:24:59,865 Kaia nailed it all. 469 00:25:00,255 --> 00:25:01,575 I thought about a check and was excited. 470 00:25:01,575 --> 00:25:04,815 Hey, get a name strong, especially for, you know, our four babies. 471 00:25:05,265 --> 00:25:09,735 Um, so with the, the, the traveling that you do and with the, the 472 00:25:09,735 --> 00:25:11,295 adventures of your life and the. 473 00:25:12,675 --> 00:25:16,155 How you switch off and you take that experience. 474 00:25:16,545 --> 00:25:19,004 What impact has this had around your thinking on what 475 00:25:19,305 --> 00:25:20,655 a successful life looks like? 476 00:25:20,655 --> 00:25:24,525 Cause obviously you mentioned there's the corporate side and everybody thinks 477 00:25:24,525 --> 00:25:28,665 about the nine to five corporate and what success looks like, but it looks like 478 00:25:28,665 --> 00:25:34,365 you've got a very definite vision for what success should look like for you and 479 00:25:34,365 --> 00:25:35,895 your family up your wife and the dogs. 480 00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:42,870 Nick: Yeah, the, um, this is, I always liked this question because it's battle 481 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:45,450 success is different for everybody. 482 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,450 So what success looks like for me might look completely different for 483 00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:50,190 you or for any of the listeners here. 484 00:25:50,790 --> 00:25:57,240 And to me, I was always turned off by the fact that a nine to five job you 485 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,540 kind of, you don't have any control. 486 00:26:01,020 --> 00:26:03,810 You, you can't determine how much you're going to make. 487 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,920 That's figured out for you. 488 00:26:05,715 --> 00:26:09,045 You can negotiate obviously, but there's pretty much a limit 489 00:26:09,045 --> 00:26:11,115 on what you can do your time. 490 00:26:11,505 --> 00:26:14,115 So if you want to take vacation or you just want to take an 491 00:26:14,115 --> 00:26:16,965 extended weekend or whatever, like that's all got to get approved. 492 00:26:17,265 --> 00:26:22,545 Like you have no control over what you do, how much you make when you do it. 493 00:26:22,905 --> 00:26:26,985 And that just completely turned me off to the whole nine to five 494 00:26:27,855 --> 00:26:29,925 mindset or the nine to five path. 495 00:26:30,525 --> 00:26:34,355 And for, so for me, success is being able to. 496 00:26:35,129 --> 00:26:37,200 Focus on things that I want to be focusing on. 497 00:26:37,260 --> 00:26:39,750 So like the podcast, I absolutely love the podcast. 498 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:44,399 I love getting on interviews, talking with people, the editing I can probably 499 00:26:44,399 --> 00:26:48,090 do without that would probably be something that ended up outsourcing, but 500 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:50,159 that's something that I can see myself. 501 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:53,700 I'm putting time and effort into something that I'm building of my own. 502 00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:57,990 I'm not building someone else's dream essentially. 503 00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:01,919 And then having the freedom of time to be able to. 504 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:04,139 Go where I want. 505 00:27:04,139 --> 00:27:08,220 When I want, if I want to record on the road, I can record on the road. 506 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:12,209 If I want to be at home in my office, I can be at home in my office, but I'm not. 507 00:27:13,169 --> 00:27:17,580 Being told like you are going to sit in your office from Monday through Friday, 508 00:27:17,969 --> 00:27:21,810 eight hours a day at minimum, and then you can enjoy the rest of your weekend. 509 00:27:22,439 --> 00:27:25,709 So to me, it's the, the freedom and the control. 510 00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:28,919 If I can get that, that to me would be success. 511 00:27:29,429 --> 00:27:33,030 Danny: And I, I liked the way you prefaced that as well, that it's different for 512 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:39,719 everybody, because some people do really enjoy having the security of you like of 513 00:27:39,719 --> 00:27:41,399 the know that there's something for them. 514 00:27:42,254 --> 00:27:44,965 Nine to five, Monday, Friday, and they're going to get paid for it. 515 00:27:44,985 --> 00:27:47,865 It's a, it's a very different approach for entrepreneurs, obviously. 516 00:27:47,985 --> 00:27:51,435 So I, I liked the fact that you prefaced that there can be 517 00:27:51,794 --> 00:27:53,355 depending on what your vision 518 00:27:53,355 --> 00:27:54,284 Nick: of success looks like. 519 00:27:55,125 --> 00:27:55,335 Yeah. 520 00:27:55,335 --> 00:27:59,985 And like, I never, I, every time I kind of get on a particular, I get fired up about 521 00:27:59,985 --> 00:28:01,365 the whole leaving the nine to five thing. 522 00:28:01,665 --> 00:28:05,115 So I always have to like, kind of dial it back and be like, if 523 00:28:05,115 --> 00:28:09,375 you are working a nine to five and you truly enjoy what you do. 524 00:28:10,715 --> 00:28:11,555 You're golden. 525 00:28:11,765 --> 00:28:14,045 You have the security you're doing what you love to do. 526 00:28:14,345 --> 00:28:16,865 And like, why change that? 527 00:28:17,945 --> 00:28:20,525 For me, it was a little different because I was doing the nine to five, like, 528 00:28:20,525 --> 00:28:25,325 yes, it was giving me the financial freedom that I was, that I'm looking for. 529 00:28:25,415 --> 00:28:28,955 But at the same time, it, it took away something that was very important to me. 530 00:28:28,955 --> 00:28:30,095 And that was my time. 531 00:28:30,875 --> 00:28:33,725 And it's not doing something that I'm super passionate about. 532 00:28:34,115 --> 00:28:34,355 So. 533 00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:37,680 If I'd say, if you can find something that you're passionate about and 534 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,490 it's in a nine to five setting, like more power to you, like you got it 535 00:28:41,490 --> 00:28:42,899 nailed down, you got to figure it out. 536 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:47,370 If you can't figure that out or find that in the nine five setting, then 537 00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:51,060 maybe taking a look at what you can do in the entrepreneur space or what you 538 00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:53,430 can build yourself is a better route for. 539 00:28:54,969 --> 00:28:58,600 Danny: And that brings me to my next question actually, which, um, you're sure, 540 00:28:58,629 --> 00:29:03,580 obviously it's been around for two and a half years now and it offers so many 541 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:05,949 different examples of what can be done. 542 00:29:06,189 --> 00:29:09,490 You know, if you do want to step away from the nine to five and, and do something 543 00:29:09,490 --> 00:29:12,370 that you're passionate about that you've been thinking about, but haven't quite 544 00:29:12,370 --> 00:29:14,110 got round to it yet, for whatever reason. 545 00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:16,710 After two and a half years. 546 00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:19,740 And obviously you've dabbled with video a little bit, but it's 547 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,090 primarily audio at the moment. 548 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,170 I was wondering what your goals are for the future of the nine five podcasts. 549 00:29:25,170 --> 00:29:26,250 What's what's next for the show? 550 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:33,360 Nick: Um, as far as the show goes, um, I definitely obviously want 551 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,310 to grow a larger audience with it. 552 00:29:35,310 --> 00:29:38,790 I want to attract more people and be able to help more people with the show. 553 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,500 That's kind of the first and foremost deal, I guess. 554 00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:49,560 I really want to be able to reach more people is kinda my, my hope and 555 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,000 wish for the show, because I have gotten feedback from several people 556 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,590 that get a lot of value from it. 557 00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,909 And I don't think I'm doing enough on the marketing side to get it in front 558 00:29:59,909 --> 00:30:04,439 of new eyeballs and guest podcasting is actually going to be one of the big 559 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:09,810 things that I focus on in 2022 in getting in front of more audiences, talking more 560 00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:13,110 about my experiences and the stories. 561 00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:17,340 Great information that the guests on my show have been sharing, 562 00:30:17,699 --> 00:30:20,340 just because I think there's a lot of great information out there. 563 00:30:20,699 --> 00:30:25,500 And there's a lot of amazing stories and we're all used to hearing the headlines. 564 00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:29,879 We're used to hearing the Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk made another billion 565 00:30:29,879 --> 00:30:35,820 dollars or whatever, but you don't hear about the, the silent entrepreneurs 566 00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:38,939 that are making a killing and living the life that they want to make. 567 00:30:39,389 --> 00:30:42,389 And like just no one talks about them because they're not. 568 00:30:43,139 --> 00:30:47,220 A big name like that, but they are living the exact life that I want to live. 569 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:50,909 And I want to show people that it's not just the big names. 570 00:30:50,909 --> 00:30:52,409 It's not just the headlines. 571 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:55,110 Like those, aren't the only people that can be happy and live 572 00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:56,250 a life that they want to live. 573 00:30:56,850 --> 00:31:00,210 You just have to know where to look, I guess. 574 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,850 So my, my goal is in 2022, not only to monetize. 575 00:31:07,005 --> 00:31:07,725 Not even the show. 576 00:31:07,785 --> 00:31:11,895 I don't even think I making money from the show was a big aspiration. 577 00:31:11,895 --> 00:31:15,675 If it comes, it comes but monetizing my business as a whole. 578 00:31:15,675 --> 00:31:20,835 And then just getting my stories, my episodes, and my interviews out there 579 00:31:20,985 --> 00:31:22,305 to more people I think is my biggest. 580 00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:27,480 Danny: So Nick, I really appreciate a chat this afternoon and I, I could easily 581 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,220 sit here for another 40 minutes an hour. 582 00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:32,430 Maybe we'll have to have a, like a revisit halfway into next year. 583 00:31:32,430 --> 00:31:37,050 Seeing how your, your plans for 20 to 2022 have gone for anybody that 584 00:31:37,050 --> 00:31:40,140 wants to check out the podcast or connect with you online, where's 585 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,010 the best place for them to find. 586 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,270 Yeah, 587 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:42,840 Nick: absolutely. 588 00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:45,360 Uh, first off, thanks for again for bringing me on. 589 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,010 I have been enjoying this so much for, for anybody listening to the show right 590 00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:54,570 now, make sure you go give Danny a five star review, give podcast or stories. 591 00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:55,500 A five star review. 592 00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:57,330 It means a lot, and it goes a long way. 593 00:31:59,084 --> 00:31:59,685 Absolutely. 594 00:32:00,165 --> 00:32:04,814 Um, if you want to get in contact with me or listen to some of the episodes 595 00:32:04,814 --> 00:32:11,294 that I have out, you can find me on Twitter or Instagram at nine, five free 596 00:32:11,385 --> 00:32:14,114 is the handle and it's all spelled out. 597 00:32:14,114 --> 00:32:15,074 So it gets kind of funny. 598 00:32:15,935 --> 00:32:19,295 So it's N I N E F I V E F R E E. 599 00:32:19,835 --> 00:32:22,955 And then if you want to actually go to the website where I have all 600 00:32:22,955 --> 00:32:27,095 of the episodes of the podcast, you can go to nine, five podcast.com. 601 00:32:27,155 --> 00:32:28,535 And once again, that's all spelled out. 602 00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,490 Danny: And for anybody that's listening to this on a favorite podcast app, 603 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,360 I'll be sure to drop the links over to next website and social channels. 604 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:37,740 And I have the show notes. 605 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:40,890 So if you listen on your podcast addict or whatever you use to listen, make 606 00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:43,650 sure to check out the show notes as always, and all the links will be there. 607 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:47,160 So again, Nick, I real Fliescher tainted and sharing your story and 608 00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:50,520 looking forward to seeing where you go next year with the name five podcast. 609 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,900 Nick: Absolutely, man, thank you so much for having me on it's. 610 00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:54,600 It's been a blast.