This is the Secular Foxhole podcast.

Today, Martin and I have a returning guest.

Vinay Kolhatkar is an Australian freelance

journalist, novelist, screenwriter, and finance professional.

He is the chief editor of

the Savvy Street in public intellectual

eazine committed to Liberty and individualism.

Vinay has authored a TV pilot, screenplay, Undercover,

The Story of Jamila, and two cinematic thrillers,

A Sharia London and The Frankenstein Candidate.

He is also the co author of Media The

Battle to Shape Our Minds, which delves into how

and why fascism is taking over the west.

And probably a good segue into what has happened in

Australia and New Zealand over the last 90 days.

I think it's just been your lockdowns have been

lifted, but we saw some horror stories there.

Vinay, can you delve into some of those? Sure, we can.

Thanks for having me again. You're welcome.

Good afternoon to you, Blair.

And good evening to Martin. Good morning.

Three different things I know.

Is that morning for you? Yeah.

Between 738 in the morning on Saturdays, we're

almost always a day ahead of that's, right.

Everyone else in night in Sweden and late afternoon.

So when it comes to Australia, I was

going to write this article, which I was

going to call is Australia becoming authoritarian?

And I was going to answer that in the affirmative.

And I would still except for one thing

that kind of I thought about yesterday.

In fact, as I began to call, we should

present this because there has been quite a lot

of very selective presentation even by the right wing

media on this issue of lockdowns.

So, yes, the short answer is the entire world

has moved towards China in the last two years.

So officially, 1 December 2019 was the

first time somebody presented in a Chinese

hospital with Govin like symptoms.

The Hong Kong based South China Morning Post

says, no, this was a lot earlier.

According to them, it happened in November.

But we sort of two years into

the pandemic and pretty much every country

on Earth has become more totalitarian.

And going towards the distance between

the west and China is decreasing.

And I wish it was China moving towards

the west, but it's the other way around.

So every state, every nation state

has to become more authoritarian.

And there has been some very specific

problems in Australia and New Zealand.

And what I want to stress is

the foundation rather than the visuals.

Okay, so in the American media, I believe

you're getting visuals, YouTube videos, people protesting and

they've been beaten up by the riot police.

Are they being charged by

police unmounted horses or batons?

And they are getting hurt.

They are getting fined heavily.

And yes, that's all true, but a selective and it's

true also in a lot of protests in Europe as

well as I believe I've seen some videos of that.

And no doubt there have been some protests and there

have been a lot of riots in fact, in the

United States, some of them are unrelated to the pandemic.

Correct.

So the primary defect in Australia, I'll stick to Australia

for the time being is that we are the only

Liberal democracy in the world who doesn't have anything resembling

a bill of rights or a charter of what they

call a charter of human rights.

So the United States obviously does

have a bill of rights.

So does Canada in the UK, New Zealand, even

I believe Singapore, even India and Iraq and even

Iraq and Turkey included in that list.

Yes.

And I interrupt you, you don't have any link

because you have heritage to United Kingdom and the

British Empire with Magna Shorta or something like that.

Yes, the Magna Carta is definitely a link.

And the Australian Constitution guarantees are basically five rights,

and that includes the right to vote, the right

to a trial by jury, which I think is

not present in some of the Asian countries like

India, the right to not suffer religious discrimination or

rather freedom of religion, and the right to not

suffer discrimination by the origin of state, because Australia

also is a Federalist nation state like the United

States and Canada.

But there is no freedom of speech.

And also, sorry, there is a right to prop.

The fifth one is a right to property compensation.

So you don't have the right to prevent

your property being acquired by the Crown.

But should the Crown acquire it,

they must give you just compensation.

Big defect.

But what we have seen over the last two

years and as we said, authoritarianism has increased.

And the reason for that is a defect

that is present across the entire Western world.

And let's come to that now, which is why my

answer is in the affirmative for all of the west.

So what we don't have in the UK and

New Zealand, but what we have in the US,

Canada, Australia, India is a federal nation state.

So Federation of States have got together.

And in India, it's kind of a strange animal

because the Union dominates the States, but not so

in Australia and the United States and Canada, normally

always rather than normally the libertarians rejoice in Federalism,

they say, oh, good to have decentralization.

But let's go to the United States.

Now, one of the problems we have is

that the States have certain rights, includes emergency

powers to prevent the spread of infectious diseases.

And I believe that's enshrined in the 10th Amendment to

the US Constitution, as well as what the American Bar

Association says is 200 years of legal precedents.

So they site this 19 or two case, which

is more than 100 years ago in Louisiana.

So it was the Port of New

Orleans which was infected with disease.

And instead of putting a positive obligation on the Port,

which would be rational to have a play car or

a board up there saying beware, don't come here.

This is invested with whatever it is, asking them

to put out an order and letting the free,

healthy people choose whether they still want to take

the risk of working at the Port in New

Orleans, visiting it, or going there as a tourist.

The state put an obligation on healthy

people, preventing them from entering the Port,

and the Louisiana Supreme Court upheld that.

So we've had 200 years of precedent where the

States can exercise emergency powers to prevent all sorts

of movement rights to work, the rights we take

for granted, and they may be even enshrined in

some way in the Constitution.

And that's what has allowed a lot of European

States and even the United States to have all

sorts of mandates, lockdowns, businesses, closures, vaccination mandates, the

mandate to wear masks when inside and even outside,

and two square meter rules, all sorts of things

which have happened here as well.

And most recently, the state of Victoria passed a bill

to become law, which is called the Pandemic Bill.

And these state powers were vested in the

chief health officer and they're being transferred to

the Premier, which is by the governor.

People think that's incredibly unfortunate.

And there were a lot of protest against that, too.

But in sort of my thinking, it's neither here

nor there, because the sort of argument was that

the politicians shouldn't have that much power.

Of course they shouldn't.

Neither should anyone designated as the chief

health officer, which is worse, kind of

because it's an unelected bureaucrat.

And we know that the so called chief

health officers are anything but independent anyway, them

having that power, what's kind of worse?

Because the politicians, the governors, the Premier's

hid behind the officer's skirts and they

said, oh, no, but it's not us.

That's the advice we're getting.

And that's why we're introducing a lockdown

or mask mandate or vaccination mandate.

So we have this situation where virtually the entire

West, I would say this is the reason is

at risk because we have enshrined that law, the

power to prevent infectious diseases located in emergency powers,

and it's being exercised to a degree which has

never been the case before, and especially it is

being exercised against the disease, which arguably, with Omicron

is getting perhaps more infectious but less deadly.

A lot of coronaviruses have ended

up causing only a common cold.

So we had a lot better solutions than

what has been actually imposed on us. Agreed?

Yeah, it's the same here in the States.

I mean, the media is absolutely one sided in

favor of whatever the President or the governor's hear

say to do, and they always extend the emergency

powers of the governors for each state.

I think there's only, like two States that

have not extended those kind of emergency powers.

The way you describe it, as

everyone's lurking on moving towards China

instead of China moving towards freedom.

That's a perfect summary.

Hopefully that trend can be reversed,

but it's only through ideas.

And when you have the media and right

now, I guess big tech all on board.

Indeed, you have a big sort of crony

nest and what we call the deep state,

a bunch of unelectric bureaucrats, the intelligence agencies,

a whole range of associations.

For instance, there's a joint release by the

American Medical Association, the American Pharmacist Association in

the American Society of Health Systems Pharmacists.

And that condemns Ivory acting as a possible

remedy for COVID or as a prophylactic.

And in general, the establishment everywhere has been

not in support of any alternate treatments.

And I noticed there was a news in NBC that Dr.

Mary bowed and she's in ENT, Houston Methodist

Hospital was suspended because on her social media

account, she touted as I would make potential

therapeutic use against COLVID and NBC.

When they reported it, they put her

in the same box as Dr.

Sue Macintosh, who lost her medical

license because of faking vaccination certificates.

Those two things are entirely different.

One is you are doing fakery, maybe for the

right reasons, but that's a completely different thing.

A fraud is completely different

to expressing a medical opinion.

And we have a big problem here in Australia

where the equivalent of the FDA is called TGA,

the Therapeutics Administration and some doctors say they have

been issuing directives is the word they use.

So if you ask me, they should have no

right to even provide guidance unless asked for.

And the equivalent of the Mdn CDC in

Australia has done everything it can to prevent

the doctor patient relationship in respect of COVID

from working normally and in variety of States.

In the United States, also in European nation States,

it's been the same thing has been happening is

my belief in Sweden used to be touted Martin

as the exception to the lockdown rules.

But I don't know where they are.

Like, can you go to a doctor and you and

your doctor decide what treatment you should have or if

someone comes down with covert it's only the state decides

you get no treatment for several days.

You're isolated at home and then if you're hospitalized,

they decide they do with you in the hospital.

It's not so strict and Blair and I have discussed it.

But if you know that you have some kind of

disease that could be deadly or could affect others, then

you should take care of that, I think.

But I think we should prevent it in different ways

and also have a free information flow of information.

So in a way I like how so

called they have handled here in Sweden.

But as you say, they are hiding behind the skirts.

So this agency, when it went well, so to speak, they

could talk and have a Press conference and so on.

But when they start seeing a pattern and then we

were not so popular anymore and when politicians did new

things, but we have never had a real lockdown but

in September they said everything is free.

So now you could have party now

you could have big events, gatherings, whatever. Yeah.

And what happened then of course, and

now we see this new version.

So it's going back and forth the

whole time but we don't have any.

You have to wear mask and whatnot.

But it's still these distances

and other things like that.

So that's relatively mild or social distancing to square

four square meter rules and stuff like that.

It's hard to administer and monitor anyway. Yeah.

But again I think we should focus on

I said we don't want to be conspiracy

theories here but you said this about China.

I read in Deutsche Valley I think it

was early on about Wuhan, about the bats.

And now I saw on a documentary like a science here

on the telly they talked about how the bats was transferred

to some animal event, to the people, to humans and also

coffee in different variations have been during the history but it

has been very silenced in a way and that's why I

wonder so we should talk more about that, learn from what's

happened there in Wuhan in China and also protect us for

the future and also but also see the risks of course,

but don't take the chance that it will be the big

brother and the long run because think about all the businesses

that have lost lots of money over with and other things

like that.

But you shouldn't do dangerous things

and you shouldn't do stupid things.

That's the thing here in Sweden and I've been

there but now we said in September, now it's

free to meet and have gatherings, big gatherings.

And then what happened?

Then it peaked again and I think in a way

we have to live with it for rest for a

long foreseen future and maybe we'll learn something from it.

But I don't like the demands and I don't like

how all the trust, so to speak in this agency

with the bureaucrats and definitely not see how the politicians

see their chance to really lock down.

But on the other hand I'm happy

that we haven't locked down totally.

Personally I would say that that's not a good idea.

And right now before we start recording, I

saw on John Galt line the Facebook group

there it was some British I think journalists

that have interviewed somebody in Australia, a private

individual that had a negative test.

But she was set in not house arrested.

It was more like a camp and then she was fine.

She could be fined lots of money if she walked outside.

And I thought that was horrendous and very scary.

The fines here are quite horrendous.

I think we probably lead the world

on finds that are just astronomical.

But here like in Sweden with lots

of language to get the information out.

They saw in different areas that the information was not

going out about COVID and how you could protect yourself

and about the vaccine and other things like that.

We should talk about the vaccines and the protections

they offer and fair bit of research here.

And I wanted to draw a parallel with

this index that the Heritage Foundation publishes, and

it's quite famous around the world, has been

happening for quite a number of years.

It's called Index of Economic Freedom, and they

judge nation States by your freedom to work,

produce, consume, invest free flow of labor, capital,

goods and the affirmation of property rights.

Now, Hong Kong rates number one, but

that doesn't count as a nation.

So in the nation ranking, Singapore's number one, New

Zealand number two in Australia number three, what surprised

me is in 2021, it's still New Zealand number

two and Australia number three, United States is 20

at the United Kingdom is seven, China is 107

in, India is 121 now.

And a lot of the Southern American countries on

the continent are down in the three figures. Okay.

But I wonder if we could compute an index of

medical freedom and the whole thing would be reversed.

And by that, I mean, yes, you should

be able to offer a vaccine without going

through a five year process, but it should

be based on free consent and full information.

You should pay for it in one way or another.

Also, sure, it shouldn't be free.

It should not be pushed down the

road, and you should be able to

consult the medical professionals of your choice.

Now, we have heard often talked about

Ivomectin, which is but there's also the

theory that HDR two vapors help.

There is a pulmonologist in India who has

been getting phenomenal results with an alternative treatment

that has made it into the journals, but

it's simply not being publicized to that extent.

And again, it's a drug that's

been around for over 100 years.

So these treatments people should be able to access.

And with vaccines, there was a denial of the

after effects that were occurring and the vaccine ended

up becoming like a reverse lot free.

So in a normal lottery, it's like everybody spends $5

and somebody wins a million dollars and we don't criticize

or envy the person who wins a million dollars.

We don't miss $5 when we lose them.

But if it was reversed, if it was like somebody

becomes bankrupt and loses a million dollars, but everybody gains

$5 and that would be a reverse lottery.

So everybody who has taken a vaccine, I

believe is now excluding perhaps Omicron has much

better immunity in terms of hospitalization rates and

death rates are less among the vaccinated.

But there were some who died.

Lisa Shaw, the BBC presenter, died.

There were people who got myocarditis pericarditis

heart inflammation among the young, there were

women whose periods have changed simply after

the first dose of the vaccine.

And those are highly frequent cases.

And there was this breakthrough, which was the

entire world media, except again, the South Korea

Herald and the Times of India.

The entire world has been silent on that

because all the vaccine manufacturers said that the

injection should be given in the muscle.

So it's in the del priority muscle.

Typically it's a large muscle with very

low risk of hitting a blood vessel.

But what doctors and nurses are trained to do

is to aspirate before vaccinate when the recommendation is

for the vaccine to be given in the muscle.

And that means when they inject, when they

insert the needle, they pull it back and

check if there is any blood coming.

If there is a blood vessel, they'll pull

it out, discard the needle, start again.

And that happens fairly rarely.

That when they're aspirating they discover

that they hit a blood vessel.

But if they don't, aspirate they would never know

if they've hit a blood vessel or not.

And unfortunately, across all of these vaccination centers, Aspiration

simply hasn't been asked for because they say, oh,

it's highly unlikely, there are no major blood vessels,

but highly unlikely is simply not good enough because

these vaccines are very different.

Both the Edenovirus AstraZenica vaccine and the

mRNA vaccines like modern and FISA, essentially

instruct your body to make spike protein.

So they're making a key element of the disease rather

than replicating the disease by giving you a weak virus

or an attenuated virus or a dead virus.

So the body then makes spike proteins and

then the body makes antibodies against the spike

protein which help against hospitalization and death if

you get the real spike protein into you.

And that comes with other things.

So that the other problem with the vaccines is

the efficacy starts to drop after six months.

If you inject in a blood vessel, then

the instructions are traveling across the body as

against, localized primarily in the deltoid muscle where

the spike protein happens, the antibodies happen and

then the antibodies travel around the body.

Only the antibodies of the travel, not instructions to

make spike protein shouldn't go all over the place.

So there is a study done on rats where two

groups and a bunch of rats were injected deliberately into

the way the same sort of Pfizer and whatever it

might have been the enovirus estrogenica vaccine.

And then a bunch of rats were

given the vaccine in the muscle.

So there were some cases

of heart inflammation developed.

So it was the mRNA vaccine.

Heart inflammation did develop in the rats

exclusively in the group that was given

the IV intravenously, the injection intravenously.

So we may have a situation where the vaccines have

been blamed a little bit unfairly, but then there has

been negligence on the part of the administration and they

don't want to admit to that negligence.

So they just simply suppressing this whole idea,

which is incredibly bad because some people have

suffered a lot and this is where the

index of medical freedom comes in.

You should be able to go to your doctor of

your choice which is what I did when you're taking

a vaccine and make sure that he asked for it

before he vaccined it I made sure I got that

for myself, my wife and my family and then we

didn't suffer any horrendous after effects but that seems to

be happening strangely enough, in the third world there's a

combination of things maybe losing our freedoms in the third

world you can walk into a surgeon and get into

a specialist or a physician and get prescribed I will

make and it was widely prescribed by the state government

Ultra Pradesh but the state of arrest has suddenly introduced

a travel restriction on a bunch of countries including the

whole of the EU because of Omega and surprisingly the

central government there as well as even the who in

the United Nations have been criticizing the travel bans because

they say they are unfair we ought to distribute the

disease fairly and this is where Australia becomes quite an

interesting case because let's look at the statistics now the

world debts around 5,000,260.

3 million cases now let's compare the debts per million

average is 663 the United States is above that 2000

and 389 the United Kingdom's 2000 and 134 New Zealand

is 44 Australia 78 so pretty much at the other

end of the scale India is 337 now you put

the focus more on Australia again what do you find

pretty high vaccination rates here now but an astonishing difference

by state So out on the West Coast near Western

Australia they're quite isolated it takes 4 hours by flight

to get there from Sydney it's a big time zone

difference as well and they practically have been able to

prevent cases by lockdowns and travel bans and the travel

Ban's have enabled them not to have lockdowns but then

there is some freedom being infringed anyway the travel ban

is an infringement federal government in Australia have been criticizing

Tasmania and Western Australia for what they're doing is isolating

themselves but their isolation has resulted in hardly any lockdowns

people are freely able to move around and now the

active cases in 2900 a day on average Victoria is

almost 13,000 a day Western Australia is two not 2002

active cases Tasmania is one new cases in Tasmania zero

cases to date since the pandemic started 238 so even

when you compare it on a per thousand population rate

is very dramatically less than in other States but they

have done so with another different kind of infringement but

it's still I guess it's preferable to beating people on

the street who are protesting living normally otherwise yeah two

things I blame myself for I heard this story and

I should have researched it and I will still do

that but Dr Fauche himself visited this lab and US

taxpayer money went to this lab for this COVID thing

before it blew up, if you will so this is

the Wuhan lab we're talking about.

Yeah, the Wuhan lab.

And I think that is just an abomination to be polite.

Well, the United States government, we

understand, funded the lab as well. Probably. Yes.

Our text, arguably the purpose

was to it's very ironical.

It's what they call the gain of function research.

So you actually make a virus a new form of virus,

make it more virulent so that it will enable us to

have vaccines and other treatments should a pandemic occur.

But Ironically, that resulted in the pandemic occurring

because there was a leak from the lab.

Now, the benign story is the one

of ignorance and therefore an inadvertent release.

But the sinister story obviously

is one that's a bioweapon. Yes.

The vulnerability that I mentioned, even in the US,

despite the constitutional protections and the bill arrives, the

state of emergency powers to do all sorts of

things that we are looking at today, prevent businesses

from opening and lockdowns and prevent movement of people,

lock up healthy people.

In fact, that had never been done

in human history before, except for those

isolated incidents that we spoke about.

Not so endemically.

Well, if you wanted to make a bio weapon or

you want to make a weapon to make the world

compliant to kind of a new world order, this is

the weapon one would think of because you can exploit

the rights given to the States under the emergency powers.

It will be that has happened.

It's possible it's become rational

to formulate conspiracy hypotheses.

So the term conspiracy theory used to be

used for a theory of a conspiracy.

And the theory ranged from highly

likely to mildly plausible to absurd.

The whole range. Right.

Whereas now it's become a demeaning term of some vehicles

saying, well, I know the Earth is flat or the

moon is made of cheese or some such wild thing.

There is a Santa Claus. Yes.

In fact, we are compelled, in fact, to

formulate the hypothesis, to make sense of the

world around us because we can see the

establishment, the media are suppressing every alternate explanation

of virtually anything and everything related to this,

especially related to the pandemic.

I'm sorry I interrupted you.

But let me ask you this.

Are you familiar with claws or Claus? Schultz.

Schultz. Schwarz.

You mean the great recent World

Economic Forum and the great recent. Yes.

I'm wondering if these things are related.

This virus is released and all of a sudden the west,

instead of standing by its principles, becomes lap dogs to this

30 year plan or 20 year plan of his.

And again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but

on the scale of possible, probably certain.

It's possible.

It's entirely possible.

And I think it's entirely rational.

On the Savvy Street, we discussed that

actually video interview of David Harriman.

You obviously know of him.

I watched that interview. Yeah.

And we got a range of conspiracy.

We got a range of conspiracy hypotheses,

as we call them, to avoid the

term that's become so maligned conspiracy theory.

And also the fact that from a scientific standpoint of

theory is a much stronger body of interrelated data and

evidence that has filed up into a theory that sometimes

the theory is something like a fact, like theory of

gravity is still called the theory, but it's a fact.

The theory of evolution is a fact. Yes, true.

It's still called a theory where the

hypothesis is clearly a conjecture that is

put up for observation and discussion.

And ideally, even the proponent of that hypothesis

should be open to it being wrong.

But we haven't been able to examine

the origin of the virus, the outcome.

So it is entirely possible that it was released a

bio weapon with some aims, or it is also possible.

The second part is more than possible.

I mean, Schwab himself says so

that the pandemic is an opportunity.

So even if it wasn't in Burton released by the lab,

they've certainly taken advantage of it and that they more than

readily admit so in print on their own website. Yes.

And again, the other thing I wanted to

stress for many years, I've lamented what I

call the permanent bureaucracy, which exists to serve

itself and not answer to the people.

And I think the administrative state is

that is what the administrative state is.

It's this permanent bureaucracy that you

can't monolith or Leviathan that just

keeps growing and feeding itself.

What do you think of that?

It's becoming worldwide.

Notice we call it the deep straightened definition.

It includes academia, media, think tanks.

Philanthropy has gone in that direction.

And unfortunately, a lot of large corporates, a lot of

money is pouring in, even from corporates buying into the

whole climate scam and ID of other scams, because big

corporations are assisted by this crony face estate.

And that's where the philanthropy and big corporations

is where the money is coming from.

So we have this network, which is we call it

deep state, and it's controlling pretty much all the mainstream

media, maybe over 90% of academia, 90% of academia.

Yeah.

Over 90% of think tanks as well. Sure.

And these kind of NGO type organizations.

And they become so powerful.

I mean, to digress from Colbert, but staying

in Australia for a minute again, because we

said that would be our focus.

Okay, we had this interesting

thing happened here in 2009.

There was a gentleman by the name Tony Abbott.

He was a politician.

He was in regional Victoria.

And he said all this climate thing is absolute crap.

Those were the words.

He is absolute crap.

But in a private meeting some years

later, in 2013, he became Prime Minister.

And then all of a sudden, he was playing games.

He was dog whistling to his constituency.

But he could never confront the what you

would call climate alarmism or what Candace De

Russi in 2009 called climate Scientology.

He could not confront climate Scientologists

or the media supporting them directly.

Same thing happened.

A gentleman by the name Scott Morrison.

He was Treasurer in 2017, February 4.

And a half years ago, he bought

a lump of coal into Parliament.

He is not allowed to have a prompt,

but he nevertheless brought it and showed it.

And he said, don't be afraid, just call.

And he accused the opposition of colon

phobia, a pathological fear of coal.

That is beautiful speech.

But then when he becomes Prime

Minister, he became Prime Minister recently.

He went to Glasgow and once again what he

has done is played games and agreed to some

wishy washy targets instead of any head on confrontation.

So even Donald Trump wasn't a complete exception

because when he became President, he asked the

Department of Energy for a list of people

who attended the climate conferences, five star junkets.

So they refused.

The Department of Energy, the Department of Agriculture,

NASA, everybody worked in unison against Trump.

So yes, he pulled the US out of the

Paris Accord, but he didn't confront the scam head

on by saying this climate thing is a scam.

Climate alarmism is a scam.

And I am thinking the deep state is so powerful

and the politicians depend on campaign money to such a

large extent that within the party there is quite a

bit of revolt and especially in parliamentary democracies, if a

Prime Minister was to confront it, he would get a

revolt internally and he would be deposed by his own

party, which can happen.

And of course, even in the US, while the Republican

Party can't pose Trump for simply disagreeing with him on

policy matters, there is still a very strong influence that

the deep state has over what the President can do.

And then, of course, we now in the panic.

What happened was Trump refused to exercise some of

the powers he did have, but he could not

stop the respective States from exercising, which is the

floor we have in the model of that has

been exploited virtually perfectly by the great reset proponents.

If indeed it's deliberate or even if it is

an very vigorous opportunistic reaction to what has happened.

Be nice.

Like two points before we wrap up, we probably

will come back to, as I would call it,

environmentalists as the new religion here at the Secular

Foxhole and talk more about that and cover that.

And also, if you would like a cliffhanger for an upcoming

and returning guest, what do you see as a solution?

Or how could we spread the good

word about your work and so on?

What's going on down under thank you.

Well, this is a very difficult question because we

are stymied by law and we got to have

law to protect ourselves from law, or rather we

got to have an enshrined ride in the Constitution

to protect ourselves from lawmakers making new laws.

But even in the US, regulation circumvent that process so

we're not able to amend or in this time, in

our time, we're not able to amend Constitutions.

So what we have to do is wake people up

and hopefully that starts to spread the word and we

let the right sort of people into office.

But it's a long, hard struggle.

I can see that.

It's just definitely a long struggle.

So much is against us, unfortunately.

Thank you for the sentiment, Martin, but I

don't have any kind of magical solution other

than speak up while we can.

And as sort of media that are not major

media, we fly secular Foxhole and Savvy Street flies

well under the radar with those that become big,

like YouTube was alternate media when it first started.

Right now it's been co opted into the deep state.

So that would be the danger for media that become

bigger as to where the money is coming from to

make it bigger and how it's going to prevent itself

from being co opted into the deep state.

We have some ideas for Claire and myself.

I mean, we are not there yet because we have to

get the funds and get like a budget and support.

But for example, one alternative could be Rumble.

I've tested to upload one video where

took some time and so on.

But I'm looking at that Amy peak of

she recently did that with Blair and I.

We have this new segment, sometimes some good things, not

a good thing, and some ending with some good things.

And that's originated by Amy Pikov.

And the latest live streaming she had,

it was on a new segment, some

positive things about treatment against diabetes.

And then she said that it

was live streaming located on Rumble.

So that's something to look at for the future.

But if you want to do live stream,

you have to have a certain account and

then you have to have funds for that.

But I see if a market will work freely.

We will see alternative.

But it's good to, as you said, point out that

how some alternative or some startups is emerging or morphed

into this big tech that is not for free market.

It's something else.

And that's why all about covet things.

If you wanted to post something on Facebook and

they say, are you really sure that you want

to post this kind of information with post?

This is starting getting a bit scary.

It's this big brother watching you over,

but then you could vote with your

wallet pocketbook and go somewhere, somewhere elsewhere.

Rumble and Odyssey are, from what I've heard,

probably the freest of the new competitors to

YouTube and posting the most alternate narrative.

I think that's true, yes.

And that's why we continue with our podcast.

We could be corrected and we could be

having a discourse and debate and discussion.

But I like it's pretty hard.

Maybe you shouldn't say that out loud, but it's pretty

hard to close down an RSS feed, you could be

deplatformed, you could be stopped or picked out.

But still, even real conspiracy fears is still

out there because they have a saver RSS

feed and I don't like them.

But I'm for the freedom of expression also.

But they have to take the consequences of what

we are spreading and be responsible for that.

But if you have an RSS feed

and you could protect it pretty easily.

And what we want to do in the

future is to get support by fellow podcasters

and listeners, by something called Podcasting 20 and

that's initiative from folks at Podcast Index.org.

And there is something called Satoshi, and

that's like 100 million parts of Bitcoin.

So it's a small amount, but then you

could stream Satoshi's through by listening to podcasts

if you use a Podcasting 20 application.

So there I see it.

But right now I think it's a couple

of thousands of podcasters of like 4 million

podcasts all over the world using this.

But you could look in the Crystal ball.

So in ten years time, when we talk again, fantastic.

When you mentioned it yourself, I was about to call it

the Bitcoin of sound or the Bitcoin of free expression.

Is sound preserved in

disaggregated leisure type entities.

You're calling podcasts to point out the

platform cannot be taken out, hopefully and

cannot be prevented from being listened to.

But one of the problems we've had is

even where people have been going back to

Pandemic have been protesting in Greece.

They recently passed a law making

vaccination compulsory for people about 60.

And they've been in Australia, the protests, we met violence

from the police, but where they weren't met with violence

from the police in France and Germany, the nation state

still went ahead as if the protest hadn't happened and

legislated the way they wanted to.

So despite the expression, the alternate media

is simply not large enough to sway

significant amount of opinion yet.

And hopefully we will be some days.

I know we will be.

I want to end on a positive note, though, if I may.

1 of my favorite movies of

all time came out of Australia.

It's called The Dish with Sam Neil.

All right. I must have been a fan.

I haven't seen it, but gone.

It takes place in the 1960s when the United States

put a satellite dish for NASA in this big sheep

field in the middle of some Prairieland in Australia.

And it's about the three guys that made

this satellite station and the town around it.

And it's a classic, feel good, wonderful film.

So I highly recommend that to you and to our listeners.

Anyway, we've been talking to Venice ColeHead Carr, who is

always welcome to come to the show, and we thank

him again for Manning the Foxhole with us today.

Thank you for having me again. Yes.

If you have any ending note or if you want

to say where the listener could find you in cyberspace.

You're more welcome. Thank you. Well, yeah.

I hope listeners fund use the secular foxhole

podcast and us savvy street by visiting our

websites and at least keeping us alive.

And ideally they were looking for major sponsors

who take us to the next step where

it's to fly under the radar.

But we'll move it bigger.

We dropped a few bombs by far.

That's right.

Throwing stones.

And then hopefully we get some machine

guns and then maybe we fly.

We're not afraid to speak truth to power but

we need a bigger platform, that's for sure.

That's right.

And as Blair knows without saying anything now

I have some ideas and I've been talking

with some interesting entrepreneurs about that so we

will probably come back to that Vinay. Very good.

Thank you. All right, sir.

That's a wrap, I believe.

Yes, it is. All right.