Welcome to the
Vesna:Peak Revival Podcast.
Vesna:My name is Vesta.
Vesna:I'm gonna talk about
Vesna:why stress is not the
Vesna:enemy and how it makes us
Vesna:stronger under pressure.
Vesna:Now, are you someone who
Vesna:avoids stress, who can't
Vesna:wait to get through stress?
Vesna:Or are you someone that
Vesna:kind of dives straight
Vesna:into challenges knowing
Vesna:that it will create stress?
Vesna:But you're okay with
Vesna:that because you've
Vesna:got somewhere to go.
Vesna:You've got the drive,
Vesna:you're on a mission, and
Vesna:it doesn't matter, right?
Vesna:So I see both, right?
Vesna:I see women on a mission,
Vesna:and then I also see women
Vesna:who have, been so stressed
Vesna:for such a long time that
Vesna:it's led to burnout and.
Vesna:Why I wanna talk about
Vesna:this is because stress
Vesna:gets a really bad name, and
Vesna:in this podcast I really
Vesna:wanna differentiate between
Vesna:stress and challenges
Vesna:because stress is more
Vesna:of an emotional response.
Vesna:And challenges are
Vesna:what comes up that we
Vesna:can't always control.
Vesna:Or if we are moving in a
Vesna:certain direction, like
Vesna:we are wanting to do big
Vesna:things in our business or in
Vesna:the world, we are going to
Vesna:come up against challenges.
Vesna:And that's very normal.
Vesna:But that can create,
Vesna:feelings of tension
Vesna:and stress within us.
Vesna:but not all of it's bad.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:So in the early
Vesna:part of discovering.
Vesna:You know, going from burnout
Vesna:to peak performance, I thought
Vesna:the only way for people to
Vesna:recover if they were burnt
Vesna:out is to remove all the
Vesna:stress from their life.
Vesna:And so I went about, you
Vesna:know, helping people to do
Vesna:that through, helping them
Vesna:with their relationships,
Vesna:with their, you know,
Vesna:work schedules and all
Vesna:of that kind of stuff.
Vesna:But really the results
Vesna:were a bit lackluster.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:Because.
Vesna:One, we are never
Vesna:going to remove all the
Vesna:challenges from our life,
Vesna:and we don't need to.
Vesna:Okay?
Vesna:Because actually challenges
Vesna:are part of this life.
Vesna:And if you're in business,
Vesna:it can feel like an
Vesna:emotional rollercoaster.
Vesna:And in business, or if you're
Vesna:doing anything that's, you
Vesna:know, creating something
Vesna:new in the world, there's
Vesna:going to be challenges,
Vesna:and that's very normal.
Vesna:But challenges help us
Vesna:to stretch and grow.
Vesna:You know, I was hearing a
Vesna:doctor say the other day that
Vesna:actually when we run and do,
Vesna:any kind of heavy lifting or
Vesna:any kind of workout, or even
Vesna:if we break our bone, we're
Vesna:getting a fracture, a stress
Vesna:fracture, and I've had a
Vesna:few, and actually it becomes,
Vesna:you know, the bone becomes
Vesna:even stronger at that point.
Vesna:So it stimulates bone growth.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:And that same with exercise.
Vesna:We know with muscle growth,
Vesna:if you train so hard that you.
Vesna:Trained to the point of
Vesna:failure, like you can't
Vesna:do another rep, right?
Vesna:You actually, your
Vesna:muscle fibers tear
Vesna:and then they grow.
Vesna:And so even in our body
Vesna:on a physical level.
Vesna:You know
Vesna:that stress makes
Vesna:us grow and thrive.
Vesna:And then when you look at
Vesna:life, like, think about
Vesna:the moments in your life
Vesna:where you had a significant
Vesna:challenge to overcome, and
Vesna:maybe it was an illness, or
Vesna:maybe it was a divorce or a
Vesna:bankruptcy, but some kind of
Vesna:major turning point in your
Vesna:life that was very stressful.
Vesna:But actually from that place.
Vesna:So much changed about you,
Vesna:who you are as a person,
Vesna:or the results that you've
Vesna:had created in your life.
Vesna:Like it brought about
Vesna:a significant change in
Vesna:your life due to a very
Vesna:stressful, painful event.
Vesna:so in that way.
Vesna:Yeah, these challenges
Vesna:really force us through,
Vesna:you know, within our body
Vesna:or from life coming at us
Vesna:or within our business.
Vesna:They force us to
Vesna:stretch and grow.
Vesna:And when you think about it,
Vesna:that's why we set challenges.
Vesna:That's why we set deadlines.
Vesna:That's why we move, like
Vesna:if you're on a mission
Vesna:or you want to do things
Vesna:differently or you wanna
Vesna:become more successful,
Vesna:like there's a driver there.
Vesna:To push you because there's
Vesna:going to be significant
Vesna:growth and part of our
Vesna:innate drive is to become the
Vesna:best versions of ourselves.
Vesna:You know, I talked about
Vesna:it before Abraham Maslow
Vesna:and the hierarchy of needs.
Vesna:He said, we are always
Vesna:striving to self-actualize
Vesna:to become the best versions.
Vesna:Who we are, who we can
Vesna:be, because that gives
Vesna:us meaning in our life.
Vesna:Okay?
Vesna:And so if you are going
Vesna:to step forward into
Vesna:self-actualization or
Vesna:being the best that you
Vesna:can be, you are going to
Vesna:come up against challenges,
Vesna:which can create stress.
Vesna:But stress isn't all bad
Vesna:because it's creating
Vesna:so much growth for us.
Vesna:But we need a recovery plan.
Vesna:otherwise we are going
Vesna:to just burn out, okay?
Vesna:We're not going to be able
Vesna:to cope with that level
Vesna:of stress or challenge.
Vesna:So Kelly McGonal, she
Vesna:wrote a book called
Vesna:The Upside of Stress.
Vesna:In her research, she
Vesna:found that stress, if you
Vesna:deemed stress as not bad,
Vesna:it didn't affect your
Vesna:health in a negative way.
Vesna:But if you saw stress
Vesna:as harmful, then it
Vesna:actually did have negative
Vesna:health consequences.
Vesna:And so She also found in
Vesna:her research that when
Vesna:we're stressed, our body
Vesna:also releases a hormone
Vesna:called oxytocin, which
Vesna:is kind of, you know,
Vesna:she calls it the cuddle
Vesna:hormone or the love hormone
Vesna:that also gets released.
Vesna:That encourages us
Vesna:to seek, support or
Vesna:protection, and that also
Vesna:boosts our resilience.
Vesna:A part of Kelly's research
Vesna:was, you know, this view on
Vesna:how you see stress, right?
Vesna:And so if you see it as bad,
Vesna:it's gonna have a bad effect.
Vesna:And if you don't see
Vesna:it as bad, it doesn't
Vesna:have a bad effect.
Vesna:And this can look like, like I
Vesna:remember, um, hearing a story,
Vesna:I think it was an interview
Vesna:with Bruce Springsteen, the
Vesna:singer, and he said that, I
Vesna:think someone asked him like
Vesna:before, do you ever get stage
Vesna:fright or do you, you know,
Vesna:and he's like, no, but before
Vesna:I go out on stage, I just
Vesna:get so much energy in my body
Vesna:that I'm virtually shaking
Vesna:and I just know that I'm
Vesna:ready to get out there and,
Vesna:and do my best performance.
Vesna:And the interviewer was like.
Vesna:But that's anxiety, that's
Vesna:stress, that's stage.
Vesna:You know?
Vesna:And he's like, oh no, I just
Vesna:feel like I'm getting ready
Vesna:for the best performance.
Vesna:Right?
Vesna:And so it was that
Vesna:way of viewing it that
Vesna:wasn't harmful to him.
Vesna:'cause he saw it as his bo
Vesna:body was prepping him to give
Vesna:the best show of his life.
Vesna:Right?
Vesna:So it was a positive
Vesna:thing for him.
Vesna:It was helping him, it
Vesna:was encouraging him rather
Vesna:than, uh, being an obstacle.
Vesna:And when you look at it, like
Vesna:people who have, jitters or
Vesna:exam jitters or get nervous
Vesna:before an exam and they're
Vesna:looking at footballers
Vesna:who said before they get.
Vesna:That pregame anxiety, they
Vesna:didn't see it as anxiety.
Vesna:They saw it as being amped
Vesna:up for the best game.
Vesna:But the pre, you know, the
Vesna:exam jitters and the pregame
Vesna:anxiety are exactly the
Vesna:same psychological response.
Vesna:It's just one is
Vesna:viewed as helpful and
Vesna:one is viewed as not.
Vesna:And that is what Kelly
Vesna:McGonagal was pointing to
Vesna:was that if we saw those
Vesna:scenarios, is actually our
Vesna:body is just prepping us
Vesna:to get into the game to
Vesna:overcome these challenges.
Vesna:'cause really the
Vesna:stress response is
Vesna:just about releasing.
Vesna:So much energy in the body
Vesna:that you can fight or flight,
Vesna:do what you need to do, right?
Vesna:So if we viewed it as
Vesna:something that was supporting
Vesna:us rather than hindering
Vesna:us, then that would have a
Vesna:completely different reaction
Vesna:on our body, which is pretty
Vesna:fascinating, which really
Vesna:does make sense, right?
Vesna:When you hear those
Vesna:examples of the footballers
Vesna:pre-game and the exam jitt.
Vesna:I remember reading a book
Vesna:about a guy called Josh Kin.
Vesna:He was a really
Vesna:high performer.
Vesna:I think he was like a
Vesna:chess savant or something
Vesna:like that, but from a very
Vesna:young age, he became a
Vesna:world champion in chess.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:And then he decided to try his
Vesna:hand at, I think it was pretty
Vesna:sure it was martial arts.
Vesna:And then later on, um,
Vesna:I think in his twenties
Vesna:he became the world
Vesna:champion in martial arts.
Vesna:So he became world
Vesna:champion of two completely
Vesna:different sports, which
Vesna:is pretty amazing.
Vesna:And they asked him, they
Vesna:said, well, you must be
Vesna:really gifted, you know?
Vesna:And he said, no, I don't put
Vesna:that down as being gifted.
Vesna:He goes, I really, the way
Vesna:that I became so successful
Vesna:is I learn to balance.
Vesna:Uh, and juggle or
Vesna:balance between
Vesna:stress + recovery
Vesna:okay?
Vesna:And so he really
Vesna:saw that stress.
Vesna:If you combine stress
Vesna:and recovery, you
Vesna:can master skills.
Vesna:You can become a
Vesna:champion, okay?
Vesna:And when you look at it,
Vesna:athletes, they put themselves
Vesna:under extreme physical,
Vesna:mental, emotional stress.
Vesna:Yet they are champions.
Vesna:Okay?
Vesna:And they always have
Vesna:a recovery plan.
Vesna:They always look after
Vesna:their body and their sleep
Vesna:and things like that.
Vesna:I remember reading about a
Vesna:runner, and I can't remember
Vesna:her name, but she, she
Vesna:ended up becoming like a
Vesna:bronze, uh, she won a bronze
Vesna:medal in the Olympics, but.
Vesna:She said what really changed
Vesna:and made her a champion
Vesna:was that she focused on her
Vesna:self-care, sleep and nutrition
Vesna:and she said she was sleeping.
Vesna:I remember it being
Vesna:something crazy like
Vesna:14 or 16 hours a day.
Vesna:Like she would have a long
Vesna:sleep at night and then she
Vesna:would sleep during the day.
Vesna:And actually that was
Vesna:her performance enhancer.
Vesna:It wasn't that she was
Vesna:running more or doing any
Vesna:different training, she
Vesna:actually just supported her
Vesna:physical body more and she
Vesna:became a champion from that.
Vesna:And I think that
Vesna:really points to.
Vesna:If these, athletes and
Vesna:people are using stress in
Vesna:a way, but balancing it with
Vesna:recovery to become champions,
Vesna:then we can do that in
Vesna:our everyday life as well.
Vesna:So, as I said, mostly I see
Vesna:people who have suffered
Vesna:the long-term effects of
Vesna:stress and it starts to
Vesna:impact their performance,
Vesna:their mental health, their
Vesna:metabolism, their energy.
Vesna:And there is a lot that you
Vesna:can do to, you know, stop
Vesna:stress or challenges in
Vesna:your life, and particularly
Vesna:if you have a lot.
Vesna:That you carried.
Vesna:If there's a lot of decisions
Vesna:that you have to make, um,
Vesna:and there's a lot of people
Vesna:that you have to look after,
Vesna:then there's a lot that you
Vesna:can do to support yourself
Vesna:through a recovery plan to
Vesna:make sure that you are still
Vesna:maintaining peak performance.
Vesna:Okay?
Vesna:So you're not dropping
Vesna:down into burnout.
Vesna:the way that I look at a
Vesna:recovery planet has to have
Vesna:nutrition, good nutrition
Vesna:in there, and good nutrition
Vesna:doesn't look like, you know,
Vesna:doing fad diets or, you
Vesna:know, cutting out major food
Vesna:groups from your diet or
Vesna:anything like that, right?
Vesna:So normally when I see women,
Vesna:when they're exhausted and
Vesna:stressed, we need to have
Vesna:a very balanced approach
Vesna:to the macros in order to
Vesna:get the right nutrients in
Vesna:the, to do the repair work.
Vesna:So looking at nutrition,
Vesna:whole foods, cutting out
Vesna:processed foods and sugars
Vesna:and things like that.
Vesna:They are just gonna create
Vesna:more stress on the body.
Vesna:They are just gonna
Vesna:push you further down.
Vesna:Secondly, sleep.
Vesna:As I mentioned, the runner,
Vesna:she, all she did was increase
Vesna:her sleep and improve her
Vesna:nutrition, and she became a
Vesna:champion just through those.
Vesna:Okay, so sleep is so
Vesna:important for recovery.
Vesna:So even if you're going
Vesna:through a really busy time
Vesna:or a challenging time and you
Vesna:can feel yourself becoming,
Vesna:you know, run down, then
Vesna:that would be the time to
Vesna:go to bed even earlier.
Vesna:Okay.
Vesna:8:39 PM It sounds crazy, but
Vesna:if you can, I know it feels
Vesna:like that is way too early and
Vesna:you're missing out on life,
Vesna:but those are the moments
Vesna:that are going to help make
Vesna:your recovery a lot faster.
Vesna:And the third thing you wanna
Vesna:look at is creating mental
Vesna:space or mental clarity.
Vesna:So stop overthinking things.
Vesna:Stop over,
Vesna:catastrophizing, pause.
Vesna:The mental noise,
Vesna:the mental chatter.
Vesna:You know, don't overthink
Vesna:every scenario because
Vesna:the busier our nineties.
Vesna:The more stressed our body
Vesna:is, the more we're in a
Vesna:state of stress, the more
Vesna:we activate the fight or
Vesna:flight re response, right?
Vesna:So we're activating it through
Vesna:our thinking and so the best
Vesna:that you can let go, a lot
Vesna:of the stuff that you carry
Vesna:around that you can't seem
Vesna:to let go at the moment, do
Vesna:the best that you can to let
Vesna:that go because it will help
Vesna:to relax the body and start
Vesna:to allow the body to recover.
Vesna:sometimes what's really
Vesna:good is to get yourself
Vesna:out of your environment.
Vesna:So if you are someone who is
Vesna:working all day, cognitively,
Vesna:so if you're on the computer
Vesna:and you've got high stake
Vesna:decisions to make, or you're
Vesna:just using your brain all
Vesna:day, which is most people
Vesna:today, then you wanna look at.
Vesna:Doing something that takes
Vesna:you completely away from that,
Vesna:like going out into nature,
Vesna:going for a walk, like taking
Vesna:the weekend and going for a
Vesna:really long walk or a hike.
Vesna:And that gets you away
Vesna:from all the devices.
Vesna:'cause that actually helps
Vesna:to, to reset the mind then,
Vesna:okay, so you sitting down
Vesna:and watching Netflix is
Vesna:not going to reset your
Vesna:mind because you're still
Vesna:using your mind, right?
Vesna:I hope that makes sense.
Vesna:So you wanna make sure
Vesna:that your, your rest
Vesna:matches your stress.
Vesna:So if you're on the computer
Vesna:all day, you wanna be away
Vesna:from all devices 'cause that's
Vesna:not gonna help you recover.
Vesna:But sometimes just taking
Vesna:yourself out of your
Vesna:environment, breaking
Vesna:your routine, can help to
Vesna:really reset the system.
Vesna:So I'd love to hear
Vesna:your comments below.
Vesna:If you see the comment box on.
Vesna:You know what is helpful
Vesna:for you to see that
Vesna:stress is not the enemy,
Vesna:that actually we can use
Vesna:stress to help us to grow.
Vesna:And every opportunity or every
Vesna:challenge that we have is
Vesna:just another learning curve.
Vesna:It's another learning curve.
Vesna:Right?
Vesna:And as frustrating as it
Vesna:is, and I know after a point
Vesna:where I have so many things go
Vesna:wrong, it's like, come on now.
Vesna:But actually when you come
Vesna:through the other end, you
Vesna:realize how much you've
Vesna:learned, but at the same time,
Vesna:you want to make sure that you
Vesna:have a recovery plan, that you
Vesna:are taking care of yourself
Vesna:so you don't burn out.
Vesna:Let me know your
Vesna:comments below.