Welcome to the Mindful Dog Parent, the podcast for overwhelmed and anxious dog owners who are doing their best but still feel like they're getting it all wrong.
Speaker AI'm Sian, a trauma informed coach and ethical dog trainer.
Speaker AI created this podcast because dog parenting isn't always cute reels and perfect walks.
Speaker ASometimes it's tears after training, guilt in the quiet moments, or just feeling like you're the only one struggling.
Speaker AIf you've ever said, I love my dog, but this is really hard, you're in the right place.
Speaker AEach week I'll bring you calm, compassionate guidance to help you build confidence, regulate your emotions, and reconnect with your dog, even when things feel messy because you're not failing, you're just overwhelmed and you don't have to figure this out on your own.
Speaker AHello, welcome to the Mindful Dog Parent.
Speaker AI'm so, so glad that you're here with me today.
Speaker AIf you're new here, my name's Sian and this podcast is here for every dog parent who absolutely, truly does love their dog really deeply, but just sometimes finds that that love is wrapped in the exhaustion, the self doubt, and that quiet voice in the back of your head that's saying, am I doing this right and am I enough?
Speaker AToday we're talking about something that I think is one of.
Speaker AIt's a really unspoken thing in dog parenting specifically.
Speaker AAnd I've talked about guilt before and it's one of the first episodes that I recorded because I felt like it was the most one of the biggest emotions that a lot of dog parents feel when their dog's behavior is doing this.
Speaker ALike whatever their dog's behavior is in that moment, we tend to feel guilt as a result of how we feel after that or what we're doing as a result of that behavior, like whatever it is.
Speaker AI think that is an important episode and it still resonates because it was one of the early episodes, but it still gets a lot of listens.
Speaker ASo I will link to that episode in the show notes because I think it is very relevant, but it's actually today what's underneath that guilt.
Speaker ASo what actually feeds it, what keeps it alive, what makes it really hard to put down?
Speaker AAnd it's shame.
Speaker AAnd I've talked about shame in a previous episode.
Speaker AI've kind of touched on it about a specific scenario when you're embarrassed by your dog out in public, on walks, in specific scenarios.
Speaker ABut I think I want to talk about it on a more broader level for dog parents, so, because once you can start to name what's actually happening, you can start to change it.
Speaker ASo I want you to stay with me.
Speaker AI want you to take what you need from this episode and start to see how it is.
Speaker ALike, think about it, reflect on it.
Speaker AThink about how it is affecting you and your relationship with yourself as a dog parent and.
Speaker AAnd your relationship with your dog.
Speaker AThe first thing I want to talk about is the distinction between guilt and shame.
Speaker AI think it's an important one because they are different things.
Speaker ASo guilt is saying I did something wrong.
Speaker AThe behavior itself, that was something I did wrong.
Speaker ABut shame is saying, I am something wrong, so I am not good enough.
Speaker AGuilt is that behavior.
Speaker ALike I said, it's that moment.
Speaker AIt's the choice.
Speaker AIt's a reaction.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd while guilt can be really uncomfortable, it's actually really useful because it points to something specific.
Speaker AYou can work with guilt and you can learn from it, and you can apologize for it if you need to, whether that's to yourself or to someone else, and you can repair it.
Speaker ASo you can repair the relationship with yourself because of the guilt.
Speaker AYou can repair the relationship with your dog because of the guilt.
Speaker AYou can repair the relationship with someone else because of the guilt that you were feeling as a result of whatever that was, that moment, that choice, that reaction.
Speaker ABut shame is actually really different.
Speaker ASo shame is, in my opinion, opinion is a story about who you are as a person.
Speaker ASo in this scenario, it's about who you are as a.
Speaker AAs a dog parent.
Speaker AAnd because it's about identity, not just about a moment that guilt is about, it's really a lot harder to shift.
Speaker AIt's much harder to shift.
Speaker ASo shame would sound like I'm failing my dog or every other dog.
Speaker AParents got it together.
Speaker AWhy don't I. I just don't.
Speaker AIt could be I've.
Speaker AI shouldn't have got a dog.
Speaker AI'm not cut out for this.
Speaker AAnd that's a big one.
Speaker ABecause a lot of the time people who I've talked to, dog, dog, parents, I've talked to, clients that I've worked with.
Speaker AWhen I talk about that I shouldn't have got a dog, it's something that not a lot of people will voice and say out loud because they feel guilty and they feel the shame on a deeper level that they've felt like that because there's a whole thing that says we should feel lucky to have dogs.
Speaker AYou know, we should feel joyful when we've got a dog.
Speaker AAnd absolutely, yes, you do feel joyful and you do love your dogs because that's what this episode is.
Speaker AThis podcast is all about.
Speaker AYou love your dogs deeply, but it's got those other layers on top of it.
Speaker ASo saying I shouldn't have got a dog.
Speaker AI'm not cut out for this is a very big thing.
Speaker ABut that's what shame starts to say.
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker AWhen you're out and about, people must look at us and think, what is she doing?
Speaker AWhat is she doing with that dog?
Speaker AShe doesn't know what she's doing.
Speaker AShe's.
Speaker AShe can't control the dog, like, whatever.
Speaker AAnd if any of those things feel familiar, because they do to a lot of dog parents, I want you to say that it feels familiar to me, too, because I'm being really honest, and I've talked about it before.
Speaker AI remember walking with Bonnie in those days where her reactivity were at its worst.
Speaker ASo when her reactivity was at its worst and she would lunge and bark and yap and be on her feet, on the.
Speaker AYou know, on her back feet, like, bouncing, she would flip herself up in the air, and I would just feel my face go really hot.
Speaker ASo when I'm embarrassed, my face starts to burn.
Speaker AAnd I could feel it burning because we're out in public.
Speaker ASo it's not just frustrated, it's genuine.
Speaker ALike, I'm mortified about this thing happening because one are people thinking I'm flipping my dog up in the air and she's landing any which way because I'm trying to correct the behavior with abbreviated commas.
Speaker AIf you're not watching on YouTube or are they thinking, you know, she can't control her dog?
Speaker AWhat is she like, why is she out with her dog when she can't control her dog?
Speaker AAnd what has she done to that dog for it to be that way?
Speaker ALike, all these things.
Speaker ASo it was like I was being watched and judged and like a behavior was proof about something about me that I wasn't good enough, that I'd made a mistake somewhere.
Speaker ASo that is the shame, and it makes everything harder.
Speaker ASo if those things feel familiar, you are not on your own.
Speaker AI've talked to so many dog parents because I. I come at this from a place of no judgment.
Speaker AIf you come to me and say, these are the things that we've tried with our dog, and I feel awful because I sprayed my dog in the face with some water because my friend or someone at work told me to do that because it worked for their dog.
Speaker ABut I feel awful for doing it, or I'm using, like, whatever it is I'm doing things that I feel bad for.
Speaker AThere's no judgment from me at all.
Speaker AIf you say this is the scenario and I feel guilty because I don't know what.
Speaker AI don't feel like I know what I'm doing when I'm out with my dog and they're embarrassing in public, but I just don't know what to do, and I'm mortified.
Speaker ANo judgment from me.
Speaker AI have been the dog mom who's lived through some of these experiences myself as well.
Speaker ASo that is the shame.
Speaker AAnd it really does make everything feel harder.
Speaker ASo I want to talk about it from a nervous system perspective and think about it from that because it's important to understand it from the lens of my nervous system aware dog parenting framework and because it's the foundation of everything that I teach.
Speaker ASo shame isn't just an emotion.
Speaker AIt's not just I feel frustrated.
Speaker AIt's a full physiological experience.
Speaker ASo when shame starts to activate, your nervous system is treating it as a threat.
Speaker ASo your body is responding just like it would to physical danger.
Speaker AYour heart rate's going to go up, your muscles are going to tighten.
Speaker AYou might feel the heat in your face like I used to.
Speaker AI knew and it made me more embarrassed because I knew that my face was going red.
Speaker ASo it made my face go even more red because I could feel it and it was just a cycle that I got stuck in.
Speaker AIt might be you feel your heart rate increasing in your chest and you want to disappear or you want to shrink or just get away.
Speaker ASo that's the fight flight, freeze response.
Speaker ASo you either want to just, just want to become invisible, you want to make yourself as little as possible so that you've not got all eyes on you, or you just want to get out of there as quickly as you can.
Speaker AAnd the part that matters so much for dog parents is that your dog is feeling it as well.
Speaker AAnd it's not because they know what shame is like, you know, they might do, but there's nothing out there to say that they know exactly what shame is we might do in the future.
Speaker ABut it's actually because they're just so tuned in to your own nervous system.
Speaker ASo that tension that they feel through the lead that you've been holding with that anxiety, they're going to feel the change in your breathing, the shift in the posture that you've got, the way that you hold yourself differently when you might see another dog come in certain words that, that, that, that can, like, you see another dog if it's reactivity for your dog is reactive.
Speaker AThe words that you use that are going to start to make your dog more aware of there potentially being something.
Speaker AYou could just say oh God.
Speaker AWhen a dog's coming down the road and they've learned that when you say oh God, and they feel tension in the lead, there is something they've got to be aware of.
Speaker AThere is a trigger in the environment and they will pick up on that.
Speaker AThey'll pick up on the chemical changes in your body.
Speaker ALike all the things, they are responding to it.
Speaker AAnd both ends of the lead is going to respond to each other in that way.
Speaker ASo when you're in shame, you're dysregulated.
Speaker AAnd when you're dysregulated, your dog, your dog's nervous system is going to follow that.
Speaker AIt is not your fault.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt is, like I say, it's physiology.
Speaker AIt's biology.
Speaker ABoth ends of the leads are responding in to each other.
Speaker ASo it's not about saying, well, I just need to pretend I'm calm in this situation.
Speaker AIt's not about doing that because you're still going to have that anxiety in your body that your dog is going to pick up on.
Speaker ASo the shame that you carry about your dog's behavior is actually making the behavior harder to change.
Speaker AAnd it's not because you're doing anything wrong, but it's because the shame is keeping your nervous system activated.
Speaker AAnd that activated nervous system just can't access the calm and clear and consistent energy that helps your dog feel safe and have the ability to learn.
Speaker AThis is one of the most fundamental reasons why I built the dog parent path around the nervous system.
Speaker AFirst, because you cannot train your way out of shame.
Speaker AThat should be the start of a poem.
Speaker ABut you can address what's actually happening underneath.
Speaker AYou have to.
Speaker ASo you can't train your way out of that shame because you've got to go deeper.
Speaker AYou've got to start to work on the things that are happening underneath it.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo where does shame actually come from?
Speaker ABecause I don't think dog parents just arrive at shame on their own.
Speaker AI think it's something that's handed to them.
Speaker ASo it comes from, putting it really bluntly, the training advice that implies if your dog isn't perfect, you haven't tried hard enough.
Speaker ALet that land.
Speaker ASo the shame comes from somebody else telling you that because your dog's not perfectly behaved in all the situations and isn't fully sociable in all the situations, you've not tried hard enough.
Speaker AIt comes from social Media where every dog seems so beautifully behaved on a sun drenched walk with a perfectly coordinated dog parent walking with them.
Speaker AThey're listening to the, their dog parent, they're responding to the recall.
Speaker AApparently they're sitting beautifully like posing for a picture that's just like this beautiful vista behind them.
Speaker AAll of that, it comes from strangers in the park who make comments, from family members who say you just need to be firmer or I don't know why you can't control them.
Speaker AIt comes from comparing your dog's worst moment to, to everyone else's highlight reel.
Speaker AAnd it comes from the fact that we love our dogs so much.
Speaker AThe more you love something, the more it hurts when it feels like you're letting them down.
Speaker AI want just, I just want you to hear that.
Speaker AAnd it's making me, it's bringing emotions up for me because I think it's so true.
Speaker AWe love our dogs so much.
Speaker AAnd I'm thinking back to those times when I was struggling with Bonnie.
Speaker AThe more, the more that you love something, the more it hurts when you feel like you're letting them down.
Speaker ASo that shame brings, it brings something up.
Speaker ASo I really want you to hear this today.
Speaker AYour dog's behavior is not like a report card on you as a person.
Speaker AIt is a snapshot of where they and you are in their training.
Speaker AIt's a snapshot in their nervous system and yours and their environment at that moment in time.
Speaker AAnd that is it.
Speaker AThat's all it is.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to say it again because I really want this to be a big takeaway.
Speaker AYour dog's behavior is not a report card on you as a person.
Speaker AIt's a snapshot of where they are in their learning.
Speaker AIt's a snapshot of where their nervous system is and their environment at that moment in time.
Speaker AAnd that is all.
Speaker AAnd Maisie taught me more than that, taught me that more than anything else.
Speaker AThere was a period where Maisie was struggling.
Speaker ASo she, she became reactive in some situations as well.
Speaker AAnd she barked a lot out of the window and she barked in the back garden at one of our old neighbors, bless him.
Speaker AHe was, I think he was in his 80s.
Speaker AHis name was Richard.
Speaker AHe was a lovely man.
Speaker AAnd Bonnie, Maisie used to bark at him through the fence.
Speaker AShe used to bark at neighbours getting in and out of their car when she heard the car doors banging shut.
Speaker ASo she wasn't the dog like this relaxed, calm dog that I'd hoped for and for a long time I made that about me.
Speaker ASo what Had I done?
Speaker AWhat was I missing?
Speaker AWhy couldn't I fix it?
Speaker ABecause I was going round in a spiral of trying to just shut her up basically, in the most bluntest way that I can explain it.
Speaker AThat was what I was doing.
Speaker AIt wasn't until I tried to stop fixing it and actually tried to start to understand what was happening.
Speaker ASo her nervous system, her history, was what she actually needed from me that things started to change.
Speaker AAnd the first thing that had to shift was my shame in those situations.
Speaker ASo how do we actually start to release shame?
Speaker ASo I'm talking about how we kind of become aware of it and that's great.
Speaker AHow do we actually start to release it?
Speaker ABecause it's one thing to understand it and another to live differently.
Speaker ASo the first thing I want to offer is to name it when it comes, when it starts to arrive.
Speaker AShame is thriving in silence.
Speaker ASo it grows in that space where we don't talk about it.
Speaker ASo when I mentioned earlier on about saying I shouldn't have got a dog, those are the things that we don't say out loud.
Speaker ASo those are the quiet moments where we think in these, to us, these things to ourselves, but not outwardly expressing it because we feel too shameful to say out loud.
Speaker ASo it's that moment that you can say to yourself, even quietly, even in just in your own head, because of a lot of the things that we do feel shameful for, we don't tend to want to say outwardly unless we feel really safe with the person.
Speaker AYou say that shame, I'm feeling ashamed right now.
Speaker AYou can take some of the power away from it when you express it.
Speaker AEven if you tell yourself in your own head that shame, I am feeling ashamed right now.
Speaker ASo the power is removed.
Speaker ASo it's.
Speaker AYour brain is playing tricks on you.
Speaker AIt's especially kind of trying to pick up on your insecurities and all of those things.
Speaker ASo if you just name does take the power away.
Speaker ASo you move it from something that's happening to you into something that you can observe.
Speaker AAnd from there you've got a little bit more choice.
Speaker ASo just think about trying to see, like understanding it is the first thing you definitely need to have an awareness of when it's coming, coming, coming up for you.
Speaker ABut then you can say to yourself, or if you feel safe with the person that you're with, saying it out loud, I am feeling ashamed right now.
Speaker AThat's shame.
Speaker AWhatever words make most sense to you, if you can reframe something and say things like that, it's Best to use the wording that makes most sense to you.
Speaker ASo if you say that, shame, I'm feeling ashamed right now, those aren't the kinds of words that you would say.
Speaker AJust try to say it in a way that makes the most sense to you, because I think that's where it starts to land a lot more.
Speaker AAnd the second thing is to separate the moment from the meaning.
Speaker ASo your dog has barked at something or someone on a walk, for example.
Speaker AThey that's the moment it's happened and it's done.
Speaker AThe shame comes when you attach meaning to that moment.
Speaker ASo this means I'm failing.
Speaker AThis means I'm not good enough.
Speaker AThis means everyone thinks I'm a bad dog parent.
Speaker ABut meaning isn't fact.
Speaker AThe meaning that your brain puts to it isn't the fact.
Speaker AIt's a story that your nervous system is telling you when it's overwhelmed.
Speaker AAnd you can gently question that story.
Speaker AWhat actually happened, just the facts about that scenario.
Speaker AWhat's one thing that went okay on the walk doesn't have to be in that moment, but on the walk.
Speaker AWhat would you say to a friend who told you that this had happened to them?
Speaker AThis is like, we can be so much kinder to other people than we are to ourselves.
Speaker AI'm guilty of that.
Speaker AAnd it's harder to follow your own advice than it is for someone else to follow your advice.
Speaker ASo flip it and say as if, as somebody else is telling you this, as if a friend is telling you this story about what just happened, your dog reacted to something on a walk or someone on a walk, what would you tell your friend in that situation?
Speaker ASo that one, I think, is really, really helpful.
Speaker AThat second thing that you can do, when you start to separate the moment and the meaning and you can start to be kinder to yourself about that, it really helps.
Speaker AAnd then the last one, I think those first two are really, really, really powerful, but the last one is powerful.
Speaker ASo as I said, we are much kinder to other people than we are to ourselves.
Speaker AAnd this last one is a all about where the nervous system or where dog parenting frameworks built so it's to regulate before you respond.
Speaker ASo when shame is activated in your nervous system, the worst thing that you can do is immediately try to correct your dog or push through the situation.
Speaker APushing through doesn't work.
Speaker ACorrecting it doesn't work.
Speaker AYou're both dysregulated.
Speaker ANothing productive comes from that place.
Speaker AI can say that for a fact.
Speaker AI have done that when Maisie used to get barky All I tried to do was correct the behavior by telling her to be quiet, to stop barking.
Speaker AAnd I was dysregulated because I was frustrated.
Speaker AShe was dysregulated because she felt she needed to start to tell us that something was there and she felt threatened.
Speaker AAnd you can see how you end up stuck in that spiral.
Speaker ABut so instead, pausing and breathing and giving yourself and your dog a moment to come back down, even 30 seconds of stillness is going to help you to begin to shift that nervous system out of threat mode.
Speaker ASo it doesn't have to be perfect, doesn't have to be that, and it won't be transformative immediately, something that you have to keep working through, because you are going to have a dysregulated nervous system sometimes you are going to feel that shame.
Speaker ABut if you can name it, if you can separate the two things, the moment from the, from the meaning, and you can, you can regulate yourself before you react, you're so going to get yourself out of this situation.
Speaker AThis is what I support dog parents to do inside the dog parent path.
Speaker ASo it's not just the training techniques, but the actual inner work, the regulation, the reframing, because that is where the real change happens.
Speaker ASo really sit with those three things.
Speaker AI will put them in the show notes so that you can see them really easily as well.
Speaker ABut I want you to take it away and put it into your own situation.
Speaker AAnd I want to leave you with this.
Speaker AToday, you did not get a dog to feel ashamed.
Speaker AYou got a dog because you wanted a connection, you wanted companionship, you wanted joy.
Speaker AAnd those things are all still available to you with your dog.
Speaker ANot on the other side of perfection, but right here in the middle of the messy, in the middle of the imperfect, in the middle of the completely human experience of loving an animal who doesn't always behave the way that you'd hoped.
Speaker AThey are sentient.
Speaker AThey have choices, they make choices.
Speaker ASo it's not going to be perfect.
Speaker ABut you're not a bad dog parent.
Speaker AYou're a dog parent who is carrying too much shame.
Speaker AAnd there's a difference between the two and it's a really important one.
Speaker ASo if today's episode has landed for you, I'd really love you to share it with another dog parent who you think needs to hear it.
Speaker AAnd if you're ready to go deeper, to work on the nervous system, to find a path through the overwhelm and into genuine calm and confidence with your dog, come and find out more on the website that I'll link in the show notes and the freebie that I've created that will help start to guide you on the process of helping you to regulate and create that deeper meaning and connection with yourself and your dog.
Speaker ASo thanks so much for being here.
Speaker ATake care of yourself this week and I'll see you in the next episode.
Speaker AThanks so much for tuning in to the Mindful Dog Parent.
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