Foreign to the Brilliant Pet Accountant Podcast with me, Vicky, where I will give you practical business and finance advice to help you grow a sustainable pet business.
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Speaker AHello, hello, welcome everybody to this week's live on my favorite topic in the world, paying yourself some dollar.
Speaker AVery important topic and as I found out, not many people do it weirdly enough.
Speaker ASo we are going to talk about paying yourself today.
Speaker ASo if you're one of those people that always leaves it to the last minute or doesn't do it, this is the podcast episode for you.
Speaker ASo yes, if paying yourself is an issue, whether you're a dog groomer, boarder, walker, trainer, anything else in between, then you need to listen to this because it is very, very important.
Speaker ABecause it's something that people don't do, oddly enough, which you would think is a bit strange, but it's not.
Speaker AAnd that's why I'm going to talk about it.
Speaker AFor those of you who don't know, my name is Vicky, I am one of the pet accountants and we're going to do a continuation of our series that we've done over the last few weeks.
Speaker AAll of these podcasts aren't random.
Speaker AThey do interlink with each other.
Speaker ASo if you are listening to this for the first time, please go and look back and check out the other podcasts that we've done on pricing, boundaries, capacity, and now we're doing Paying yourself.
Speaker ASo like I said, they all interlink and they all work together.
Speaker AYou can't have one without the other.
Speaker ACan't pay yourself without doing your pricing properly.
Speaker AYou know, you're not going to get your pricing properly if you don't have boundaries.
Speaker AAnd you're not going to have boundaries if you don't do your diary properly.
Speaker ASo like I said, all interlinks.
Speaker AAnd so the next one on the agenda is paying yourself.
Speaker AAnd the reason I've chose this one, apart from the fact it interlinks with all of the other ones, is I've started doing more of our discovery calls for the pet accountant recently.
Speaker AIf you're a limited company, you will likely get me and the odd sole trader.
Speaker AAnd actually over the last couple of weeks of me doing this, especially with the limited companies, because you can only pay yourself one of two ways, dividends or via the payroll.
Speaker AOne of my questions is how do you pay yourself?
Speaker AThinking the answer is going to be either one of payroll or dividends.
Speaker AAnd actually a lot of people have said to Me?
Speaker AOh, I don't.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, what?
Speaker AWhat do you mean you don't?
Speaker AAnd I don't pay myself.
Speaker ALike I'm just paying my bills and then I just see what's left.
Speaker AOr they literally jump pay themselves any money out of the business.
Speaker AAnd sometimes sole traders say this to me as well, but it was just highlighted over the last few weeks with a lot with limited companies when they've just said I don't pay myself.
Speaker ASo how the hell do you live like, like how are you getting money to live if we're not paying ourselves, you know.
Speaker AAnd one recently, obviously I'm not going to mention any names, has a very good business, is making six figures and doesn't, doesn't pay himself any money.
Speaker AAnd I think, you know, know from the conversation it was just a lack of structure and lack of strategies rather than, you know, the business being bad or you failing or anything like that.
Speaker AIt's paying yourself isn't the problem.
Speaker AIt's trying to do about having a system in place.
Speaker AAnd when I was speaking to this person, it was clear that it didn't have any systems in place, which hopefully we're going to work together on and get those sorted so that he can start paying himself.
Speaker ASo yeah, that was a bit of an eye opener.
Speaker ASo I thought, well, what better talk to do than paying yourself?
Speaker AWe do it obviously as an accountancy firm, we pay ourselves, but we do it in a, in a strategic way.
Speaker AWe have our own pot.
Speaker AI've mentioned this loads of times about having separate pots within your bank.
Speaker AAnd paying ourselves a wage is almost exactly the same as saving money for VAT and saving money for tax.
Speaker AIt needs to be intentional and, and not something that you do at the end.
Speaker AAnd I think that is the issue a lot of people are doing is that they're doing it at the end.
Speaker ASo that's what we're going to discuss today.
Speaker AMake sure that you listen to the other podcasts as well because like I said, they all interlink with each other and you'll be able to get more out of them if you listen to them as a whole.
Speaker AA question already.
Speaker ABrilliant Oakley.
Speaker ASo how much would you take off each walk to pay yourself and keep some of the business?
Speaker AIt would be well below minimum wage.
Speaker ASo I'm going to put a pin in that Oakley, just until we've gone through what I'm going to discuss because it may answer your question and then I'll come back to that because again, that links into the pricing element of it.
Speaker AEspecially with dog walkers, because dog walkers don't charge half as much as they should.
Speaker ABy the time you've taken off your overheads and everything else, you're not left with very much to pay yourself, which, like you've lightly said as below minimum wage.
Speaker AAnd that is more about pricing yourself, right, Oakley, rather than what money you can take.
Speaker ABut we'll, we'll swing back to that at the end, but feel free to carry on putting on questions on there.
Speaker AIf I know it's not going to be answered in the chat, then I will answer it.
Speaker AIf not, we'll swing back to it at the end.
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Speaker AWe going to talk about paying yourselves properly and not feeling guilty about it, which is the issue.
Speaker APeople feel guilty about paying themselves and I don't understand that.
Speaker ASo we're going to go through it.
Speaker ASo a lot of you think, and I've heard this from speaking to people as an accountant, what happens if I take too much from my bank account?
Speaker AWhat happens if something happens next month and there's not enough left in there?
Speaker AI'll just wait until I paid everything else or until it feels a little bit safer for me to take some money.
Speaker ABut then that never comes, never happens.
Speaker ASo then you never end up taking any, or you don't take enough and almost feel guilty and stressed about it.
Speaker AAnd like I said before, it isn't necessarily a paying yourself issue.
Speaker AIt's to do with not having the systems in place or not doing with doing it with a strategy to get it done properly.
Speaker AAnd it just always seems to be the last thing.
Speaker ASo today we're going to talk about paying yourself, having a strategy to do it, and doing it without panicking.
Speaker ASo that is what we're going to chat today.
Speaker ASo I do find within the pet industry, and I've said this before, that no one's taught us how to do business, no one's taught you how to price, no one's taught you how to do boundaries.
Speaker AAnd you go into it with a love of the animals rather than sometimes because you want to start a business.
Speaker AAnd you were taught, you know, to work hard, you know, to care for the animals, how to show up but then the owner pay sort of doesn't really get factored into it.
Speaker ASo you tend to do what I said before, where you take what's left at the end of the month or at the end of the week, you react sort of when the bills come in and they're due and you just take money for those.
Speaker AAnd then if that sort of cycle continues, you're going to slowly resent the job.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd there's no strategies that they end up just being coping mechanisms.
Speaker ASo we can't just do what's.
Speaker ALet's just take what's left or just react to the bills.
Speaker AWe need to make a sort of conscious effort and a conscious strategy to pay ourselves out of the business.
Speaker ANow, just as a random question, whilst I've got quite a few of you here, if you don't mind, can you just put in the comments whether you pay yourself a set month.
Speaker AA set amount.
Speaker ASorry, per month or per week or whether it's random.
Speaker ASo if you can just put in the comments for me, random if it is just a random amount or if you do have a set amount that you pay yourselves each month, because it'd be interesting to know who does what, because I know a lot of people out there do pay themselves a set amount.
Speaker ABut then do you go back and revisit that set amount or is it just a set amount every month that you've plucked out of thin air, or do you do what's left?
Speaker ASo it'll be interesting to know in the comments if you're not shy.
Speaker AThere's plenty of you watching.
Speaker ASo put it in the comments for us just because then everyone will know.
Speaker AEveryone is probably doing the same thing.
Speaker ASo just let me know whether you're doing it randomly or whether you have a set amount.
Speaker AFabulous.
Speaker ASomeone's been brave enough to put it in.
Speaker ARandom set amount.
Speaker AGood.
Speaker ALike there's no wrong answers per se.
Speaker AIt's more, you know, we're going to try and get you on the right track, but don't feel bad if it's random because this is what this is for.
Speaker ASo keep putting them in there because you probably find that a lot of people do it randomly and it's a common theme, which is why we're talking about it today in the first place.
Speaker ASo if you're.
Speaker AWhat you find, if your income is random and unpredictable, that you're going to be in a constant sort of state of high, late and stress because you're never going to know where the next money is coming from, you're going to be worried about the next bill.
Speaker AYou're going to be worried if you have a quiet month or if you know there's quiet months coming up in your calendar and it's all going to be exhausting and cause you a lot of stress.
Speaker AAnd, and it also makes your business decisions a lot harder because if you're not tracking what money is coming in and out and you don't know how much you can pay yourself or where the money's coming for the next bill, you're just going to be constantly stressed and you're not going to be able to make good business decisions whilst not knowing where that money's coming from.
Speaker ASo again, it links to your boundaries, it links to your pricing, because if you haven't priced yourself right, you're not going to be able to make enough money to pay yourself at the end of the month and that's where the stress comes in.
Speaker ASo, so all of these things that we're talking about over the last sort of month, all interlinked and all play a massive part and you having the money in your back pocket at the end of the week or the end of the month, however you pay yourself.
Speaker ANow, I do a set amount because I see a lot of people have said random, which is absolutely fine, but you're probably going to find that you're really stressed every month because you don't know where that wage is coming in.
Speaker AAnd especially when you know you've got your personal bills to pay for, like your mortgage and food and if you've got kids or whatever, then that's going to cause you a lot of stress as well.
Speaker AAnd then you're going to start hating your business because you don't know where the money's coming from and you work in every hour in the day.
Speaker AAnd again, that links to your diary and your capacity.
Speaker ASo we want to sort of get out of that vicious circle and do something different and think, right, I'm going to start paying myself set amount and we'll go through the best tactic to do that in a sec.
Speaker ASet amount every month as a salary amount review personal cost at least yearly.
Speaker AYeah, Sharon, great.
Speaker AWhat I do personally with my personal costs is I have a spreadsheet, funnily enough, as an accountant, I have a spreadsheet and I put all of, I have two banks and I put all of my set direct debits that go out every month.
Speaker ASo it'll be something like gym membership or fuel or rent or mortgage, utility bill.
Speaker AAnd I have every single thing that goes out of that bank on that spreadsheet.
Speaker AAnd then when I get paid, I know how much I need to leave in each bank to cover what is going to come out.
Speaker AAnd then I know how much I've got for my own personal spending.
Speaker ABut I would do that on at least a 6 monthly review because you'll be amazed of how many subscriptions and things that you've got through Apple who which you forgot to cancel or you know, something that you'll pay monthly for anything.
Speaker AOh shit, I haven't used that in six months, I need to get rid of it.
Speaker ASo I would do it at least every six months because you'd be surprised of what's going out of your bank account without you realizing.
Speaker ABut put it on a spreadsheet, just a simple spreadsheet of your bank.
Speaker AHow much goes out every month is a set.
Speaker AYou can put stuff that's variable on there and then at least you know how much money you need to earn from the business to cover your own personal costs.
Speaker AAnd that's where the pricing comes in as well.
Speaker ASo it's great that you do that Sharon, but I definitely do.
Speaker AEvery six months I have a spreadsheet too list all cost month and yearly.
Speaker AFabulous.
Speaker AAnd everyone needs to do it.
Speaker ATegan last Tegan made me do her a spreadsheet as well with all her direct debits on.
Speaker AAnd it's a great tool because you can forget.
Speaker AAnd also if you do it every six months and you print out your bank statements and you get a highlighter pen, we've got a highlighter pen.
Speaker AGet a highlighter pen and just highlight everything that you've purchased.
Speaker AThen that isn't a regular cost like mortgage and stuff, just random things that you purchase.
Speaker AIt could be a coffee, could be takeaway, could be the cinema, just anything that's just a random cost.
Speaker AAnd highlight your bank statements for six months and you'd be surprised how much money you spend on tut.
Speaker AWhen I did it I was like, oh my God, I spend a lot of money on coffee and things like that.
Speaker ANow I could, if I cut back, save quite a lot of money per month.
Speaker ASo simple, simple task printer and do it for your business as well.
Speaker APrint out your bank statements, get yourself a set of highlighter pens and highlight all of your regular costs like you rent, you know, wages, whatever and then see what else that you're spending.
Speaker AAnd actually it's a good eye opener to say actually I've spent a lot of money on this business account on that I don't need and because sometimes if we don't look at it, then you don't realize and doing it every year is not going to help because that year is already gone.
Speaker AThere's nothing really much you can do about it when you spent, you know, thousands of pounds on Tut for the previous 12 months.
Speaker ASo do it on a regular basis.
Speaker ADo it like every six months at least and just get a set of highlighters.
Speaker AIt's tedious.
Speaker ABut actually you might go, oh, I forgot I had that dark debit.
Speaker ALet me put that on my spreadsheet.
Speaker AAnd then you'll know what you're earning in your business.
Speaker AIs that covering what you need it to cover for your personal stuff and also to give you a bit more money left over to go to the cinema, to go out on a night out.
Speaker ASo a simple task.
Speaker AI do it every six months with my highlighters, print out my bank statements and then I sort of cry into my pillow for how much money I've spent on stupid stuff.
Speaker ABut it's a good and it's easy task to do and it will help you again with the pricing element because you need to know how much.
Speaker AI'm going off on a tangent, but you need to know how much you need in your personal life.
Speaker ASo how can you set a price for your dog walks or set a price for a price increase if you don't know what money you need in your back pocket to cover your personal cost, to cover your business costs and to leave you some money left over.
Speaker AIt all interlinks and that's what you've got to look at.
Speaker ABut this spreadsheet and printing off your bank statements with a highlighter pens is a really good start.
Speaker AAnd that will be the basis of what you used price.
Speaker AAnd then when you know how much money you need in the back pocket, that's when you'll start tightening up on the boundaries.
Speaker AAnd because you've tightened up the boundaries, you'll find that you have a lot more money left over at the end of the month and that's when you can pay yourself.
Speaker ASo all interlinks.
Speaker AWe don't want to create anxiety, we don't want to be exhausted.
Speaker ASo that is why paying yourself needs to be something that you do as regularly as you pay your rent.
Speaker AYou know, a lot of people have a pot for rent, for vat, for tax.
Speaker AYour wages needs to be on one of those intentional pots and not I'll just see what's left at the end of the month and I'll just take that because all you're going to do is stress yourself out.
Speaker AWe don't like stress.
Speaker ASo you've got to get this phrase in your head.
Speaker APay yourself first.
Speaker AEven if you write that on an A4 page, stick it somewhere in your salon, stick it in your car, you know, stick it on your phone screensaver, pay myself first to make it as intentional as you can possibly be.
Speaker AAnd don't forget about it because again, I know it sounds terrifying because people will go, oh, but what if there's no money left and it's taken money before?
Speaker AIt feels safe, but it's not what it actually means.
Speaker AYou know, paying yourself first doesn't mean you're being reckless.
Speaker AIt means you're being intentional.
Speaker ALike I said before, the panic comes from paying yourself randomly and the karma comes from paying yourself as a predictable, intentional thing that you're going to do.
Speaker ABecause if you've got structure, you're going to be less stressed and you're going to remove all the guesswork.
Speaker AYou're not going to guess your prices, you're not going to guess your boundaries, you're not going to guess your increases, you're not going to guess your capacity.
Speaker AIt's all going to be structured and tailored to what you actually need.
Speaker ABut we've got to do a little bit of homework before that, especially if you start from scratch or if you have been doing it randomly.
Speaker AThen a simple spreadsheet.
Speaker APrint out your bank statements for your business and your personal.
Speaker AIdeally have two separate ones.
Speaker AEspecially with making tax digital coming into place.
Speaker AWe do not want to muddle the business bank or the bank account you use for business and your personal bank because it's going to make things really, really tricky.
Speaker ASo we'll.
Speaker AI'll touch on MTD at the end.
Speaker ABut if you're sat there and you're like, oh, crap, I mix my business, I'm a personal up, get a separate account, there's free ones out there, Metal, Monzo, Tide, Starling, that all do the pots function as well?
Speaker ASo make sure that you have a separate bank account because that will massively help.
Speaker ASo let's talk about why taking what's left never works.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker ABecause we don't want the what's left method.
Speaker AThat's not what we want.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AWe want to be taking an intentional salary and we don't want to have, oh, well, I'll just take the 100 quid that's left in the account or, well, I'm not going to take anything because I've got that bill on paper.
Speaker AIt sounds Sensible, because you think, well, you know, once I paid all my bills, you know, I will see what's left.
Speaker ABut all it's going to do in reality is create constant uncertainty.
Speaker AAnd that is what's going to cause you stress.
Speaker AThere's always going to be another bill to pay.
Speaker AThere's always going to be another quiet week than the one before.
Speaker AAnd there's always going to be another reason to wait until the end of the month or the end of the week, okay?
Speaker ABecause then you're making the owner pay, optional.
Speaker AEverything else gets paid.
Speaker AAnd you're absorbing the risk and you're absorbing everything else because you're leaving yourself to the last minute.
Speaker AAnd all that's going to lead to, like I said before, is burnout.
Speaker ABecause you're just going to be stressed.
Speaker AYou're going to blur your boundaries because you're just going to do every hour under the sun like we did last time.
Speaker AYou're going to make poor pricing decisions because you're stressed and you're burnt out.
Speaker ASo again, having a structure is going to work, and you just got to start from the small thing, like putting your bank statements out and just build it up, okay?
Speaker AIt's gonna make it stable, and that's what we want.
Speaker ASo in order to do that, which I'm hoping you're gonna say, well, how am I gonna do that, Vicki?
Speaker ACome on, give us the eye.
Speaker AGive us the.
Speaker AThe tips.
Speaker AWe want just simple, boring, regular amount.
Speaker ASo step one, choose a modest, regular amount.
Speaker ADon't go for your dream salary.
Speaker ADon't go for the absolute maximum.
Speaker AYou can take, you know, your business and what you take in generally every month, you know, have you done a recent pay increase?
Speaker ABecause you better factor that in.
Speaker ASo we just want a regular, modest amount that you know that.
Speaker AThat business or your business can afford.
Speaker ASo just something sustainable.
Speaker AIt could be weekly or monthly, but the consistency matters more than the size of the paycheck.
Speaker AWe need it to be consistent.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker ASo step one, think about what your regular sort of modest amount that your business can take every month and start with that.
Speaker AAnd then we can build it up as your pricing increases and everything else to your dream salary.
Speaker AHopefully, you know, after a year, after two years, does anyone have.
Speaker AI know you did it as random amounts, but does anyone sort of know what their business can take out every month?
Speaker ABecause that.
Speaker AThat's a good question.
Speaker AIf you sat in there going, well, does anyone go, I have no idea.
Speaker AAnd it's just a case of waiting to see what's in the bank Account at the end of every month or does people know what's in there?
Speaker ALet me know.
Speaker ALet me know.
Speaker AShare.
Speaker ATell me so mainly just to give you an example, me and Lee have a set amount that we take every month and we make sure that when money comes in we fill that pot up so that we can pay ourselves at the end of the month.
Speaker AIt's not something we leave to the end, it's an intentional pot that we put money in like our VAT pot, our corporation pot, our wages pot.
Speaker AWe have a separate pot and we review that every year depending on how the business is done.
Speaker ADo we take more, do we take less?
Speaker ABut obviously the idea is that we take more every year and our wage increases.
Speaker ASo step one think of a modest amount that you know that your business can take.
Speaker AStep 2 Treat your pay your owner pay like a bill.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AIt goes out on the same day every time.
Speaker ASo we want a modest amount and we want the money to come out as a standing order every day, the same day every month or every week if you pay yourself weekly.
Speaker ASo make sure it's an amount that you know the business can afford to start with and that you set a date that every month the money goes into your personal bank account on that same day.
Speaker ALike if you're getting paid, if you were paye, please give me a thumbs up if you're following this and it makes sense.
Speaker APlease put any questions in the comments if you've got any.
Speaker AAs we're doing this.
Speaker ADoes everyone have a modest amount in their head and is your modest amount more than what you paying yourself at the minute or less?
Speaker ALet me know.
Speaker ADon't be shy.
Speaker AAll Share on the last ones everyone was throwing comments in then as soon as you start talking about money and pay, everyone goes quiet because it's a stressful topic and it's an emotional topic.
Speaker ASo everyone's in the same boat.
Speaker AA lot of people have put random, random, random, but does anyone now have to listen to this thinking I'm going to put this amount and it's more than what they originally paying.
Speaker APlease let me know.
Speaker ATell me I'm nosy.
Speaker AI want to know.
Speaker ASo step one intentional amount.
Speaker AStep two treat it like a bill, same day every month.
Speaker AStep three don't panic.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AReview it if your cash feels tight.
Speaker AJust don't panic.
Speaker ADon't go.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AGod, I'm going to drop it by £100.
Speaker AJust observe what happens over the next couple of months and then adjust it later.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AWe can always change it up.
Speaker AWe can Change it down, but don't panic after the first month.
Speaker ATake that set amount and then review it after a couple of months and see where you're at.
Speaker AYou might find that if you tweak your pricing and you've tweaked everything else, you've got more money at the end of the month than you thought you had.
Speaker AAnd just remember, you can take it out of your bank.
Speaker AIt's sole traders, you've got a separate account.
Speaker ADon't leave it in there, take it out.
Speaker AYou're not going to get taxed on taking it out of that bank account.
Speaker AAnd that's another question I got asked.
Speaker ASomeone had like thousands of pounds left in their sole trader bank account that they were using and they were scared to take it out because they thought they were going to get taxed on the money that they take out.
Speaker AYou don't.
Speaker ASo it's in your account.
Speaker AMove it into your personal account.
Speaker ADon't leave it in there.
Speaker ASo step one, pick an amount.
Speaker AStep two, treat it like a bill.
Speaker AAnd step three, please, please, please don't panic.
Speaker ADoes anyone.
Speaker ANo one's talking to me.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker AIs anyone panic when they pay themselves at the end of the month or do you pay yourselves in the middle of the month?
Speaker AJust type the word panic if you panic or do a smiley face if you are happy when you pay yourself and don't get stressed, let me know.
Speaker AGuys, come on, there's a lot of you watching.
Speaker AJust type in a word panic or a smiley face.
Speaker ASometimes I have a panicked face, sometimes it's normal.
Speaker AWe don't mind.
Speaker ASee, sometimes you can have a panicked face, but also it's why you need a good accountant, because they can tell you what you should be taking home, especially for a limited company.
Speaker AYou know, we can help you look at your dividends and look at your salary to make it the most tax efficient.
Speaker AAnd sometimes an accountant can say, you know, you need to be taking more, you need to be spending less, or you need to up your prices because you haven't done it in two years.
Speaker ATegan used to wing it.
Speaker AI came late.
Speaker AWhat should be left in the business account?
Speaker AWhat should be left in the business account is, is money that you need to pay yourself.
Speaker AListen back to it and it'll all make sense.
Speaker ALenke.
Speaker ABut it's all about having an intentional paycheck at the end of the month and not leaving it to what's left from Rachel.
Speaker AI do know a rough amount I could realistically pay myself on a regular date, but I do A lot of ad hoc work so I just take money out as and when the extra work comes in.
Speaker ASo my wage is very random.
Speaker ASo you can still set a realistic amount, like a base amount.
Speaker AAnd then obviously if you do any ad hoc work on top of that, then you can take that out as like my hair's gone wild as a little tricky bonus.
Speaker ASo Rachel, you can still set yourself a base amount because then you'll know that you get in that set amount every month and psychologically you'll be less stress.
Speaker AHot Pause Emporium Great name.
Speaker AI've recently set up and currently not paying myself.
Speaker AJust leaving everything in my business account if I need more equipment, etc.
Speaker AConscious about paying myself with earnings being very up and down currently not sure how it works.
Speaker ASo do you have a backup then?
Speaker AYou know, if you're not paying yourself out of the business, how are you surviving?
Speaker ADo you have a partner that works?
Speaker ABecause you know you can leave it in for equipment?
Speaker AIt's always good to have a small buffer for any equipment, especially groomers and trainers that might break down or you might need repaired to have like a buffer pot.
Speaker AAnd we'll talk about that in another episode.
Speaker ABut you need to start taking money out of the business to pay yourself.
Speaker AOtherwise how are you going to.
Speaker AHow are you going to live?
Speaker ASo it's good to have money left in there for equipment but also make sure you have a pot for yourself.
Speaker ARachel's put panic with a laughy face.
Speaker ASharon I've been self employed 15 years but from day one I paid myself a salary with the same amount as I earned.
Speaker APaye fab.
Speaker AI'd regular transfer to go in three days before my end of month just as my salary did.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker AEveryone read Sharon's comment and do what Sharon's doing is an absolute perfect example because then you're not going to be stressed when it comes to paying your own personal bills because you've got the money then you know it's going in three days before the end of the month.
Speaker ADo you increase your salary Sharon, every year just out of interest?
Speaker ADo you increase the amount or do you have a set time where you look at it to increase it?
Speaker AThat would be an interesting answer Sarah.
Speaker APanic.
Speaker AThat's why I have you said get a good accountant Panic.
Speaker APay end of month set amount but still scared I won't have enough to pay expenses even though I know I will again.
Speaker AExactly Mel.
Speaker AYou know it's a psychological issue that a lot of people have that if they take money, what if something Goes wrong.
Speaker AWell, what if something don't go wrong?
Speaker AYou know, that's why you have the buffer pots, so that if, you know, if equipment does break or something happens, you've got buffer pot.
Speaker AAnd it could be that you put five pound a month into a buffer pot.
Speaker AYeah, it might take ages to get loads in there but any small amount is going to help and it just is.
Speaker AThat's a little safety net for you guys to have the pots function and your bank account is really, really important and they're really good to use.
Speaker ASo buffer pots are great.
Speaker ASalary pots, even better.
Speaker AOr when I have annual leave coming up.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AYou know, as a self employed person, there's just you.
Speaker AWhen you go on holiday, who's earning the money?
Speaker ANobody.
Speaker ASo again you've got to have, you know, have a holiday pot and have money put in for a holiday so that you still have money covering your bills when you go on your jollies for a couple of weeks.
Speaker APartner who works and I do some of the part time work on the side too.
Speaker ASo again that's great because you've got that income coming in which is going to obviously help because you've just started your business but as your business grows, you'll see your money change every month and just increase it every month.
Speaker ABut right this month I'm going to take 50 quid out, next month I've got some more clients, I'm going to take £75 out and just keep increasing it.
Speaker AAnd if you set that from the start, if you've just opened your business and that's going to put you in good stead in five years time because you already have a set amount.
Speaker AI have a book of pots and tax pots.
Speaker AGood, because you will love smell.
Speaker AThat's why we're an advocate of the pot.
Speaker AWe don't get any money for saving these pots.
Speaker AThey're just a good tool to have.
Speaker ASo step one, pick an amount.
Speaker AStep two, treat it like a bill.
Speaker AStep three, don't panic.
Speaker AIt's also going to give you better cash flow because when you're less stressed and you're paying yourself properly, you are going to create better decisions.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker ABecause when you know what money is yours, your pricing improves.
Speaker ALike I said before, your boundary strength and your capacity is protected and your panic reduces.
Speaker AWhich is why I said at the beginning this live on Paleo said links with all the other three that we've done in the last few weeks.
Speaker ASo if you can master each one of those, you'll find when you come to pay Yourself, which is the end bit, that you're going to have money left in that pot to do it.
Speaker AAnd it will stop you making decisions out of fear or out of stress because you don't know where the money's coming from.
Speaker AYou'll start making better business decisions.
Speaker AAnd when you know that your money, you rely on that money or boundaries automatically tighten because you're going to think, well, if I don't charge this customer a late cancellation fee, that's 50 quid out of my back pocket, or if I don't charge much further picking the dog up late, then that's my time that I've used.
Speaker AAnd remember, you can't get that time back.
Speaker AThere's only so many hours in a day and you don't be working every hour under the sun.
Speaker ASo just remember that paying yourself isn't taking money from the business or like in theory it is, it's stabilizing the person running it.
Speaker AAnd that's what we've got to think about is your business runs because of you.
Speaker AIf you're, if you're doing it on your own sometimes you might have staff, but ultimately the business runs because of you.
Speaker AYou are the founder, you are the owner of the business.
Speaker AIf you're not paying yourself correctly, then how is that business going to survive?
Speaker AAnd like I said before, don't worry about all these other businesses that are popping up charging like 10 or groom or you know, 2 pounds for a dog walk because they're not sustainable, they won't make any money and they will quit after six months.
Speaker ASo just don't worry about what everyone else is doing, don't worry about what everyone else is increasing their prices by or what everyone else has their dog walk as.
Speaker ADo look at your figures.
Speaker ASo your homework okay for this week and I want you to do it.
Speaker AAnd please put a comment underneath this live.
Speaker AIf you watch as a replay and if you've done this, print off your bank statements for your business and your personal.
Speaker AGet yourself some jazzy highlighter pens and start highlighting what you're purchasing, whether they're fixed costs, whether they're luxury costs.
Speaker AAnd then build your spreadsheet around the set amount that you know coming out of your bank every month and then you'll see how much is left over and then that will help you then price your business because you know how much money you need and your personal life per month to live and to have fun at the same time.
Speaker ASo that is your guys homework.
Speaker AGet yourself some printer ink.
Speaker AIf you haven't got Any get yourself some highlighter pens and start printing and start highlighting and you'll be surprised on what you did.
Speaker AWhen I did this I realized I was paying like over 200 pound a month on TV subscriptions so I could watch the football.
Speaker AAnd I didn't realize, to be honest it was costing that much.
Speaker AI just did it and then I forgot about it and so I canceled them all and saved myself like £200amonth.
Speaker AAnd if I hadn't done it, I would have kept that probably for another six months until I realized.
Speaker ASo it's a good trick even if it's not even related to doing this.
Speaker AYou should be doing it anywhere in your business.
Speaker APrint off those bank statements Sharon's put Yes, I look at my monthly personal costs and needs and work out on a spreadsheet and increases necessary things go up.
Speaker AI break down yearly costs over 12 months to reliably also I. E. Car and house insurance.
Speaker AAnd this is the thing, you know, everything goes up every year.
Speaker AYour shampoo, poo bags, treats, leads, equipment.
Speaker AIf you're not putting your price up every year, you're actually over a five year period and be making less, not more.
Speaker AYou need to put your price up.
Speaker AAs hard as that is guys, you need to do it in order to make a profit.
Speaker AOtherwise you're going to do that over a period of time instead of that to make sure that you are reviewing your expenses because sneakily people will start increasing things like when you go to the shop and like my mom is crazy for this.
Speaker AShe's like well I went into ASDA today and baked beans Branson pickled baked beans has gone up 3p.
Speaker ALike she's just honestly like a psychopath with the food prices.
Speaker ABut you don't know and they just do it sneaking in.
Speaker AIt'll be the same with like your shampoo brands and everything else are going to increase their prices because they need to as well.
Speaker AWhich means in turn you need to increase your prices.
Speaker ASo don't be afraid to do that because you're a business and you need to make money again.
Speaker ASomeone's put gratefully thankful for their buffer because I've had a lot go wrong.
Speaker ASometimes life's a bit shit and for those of you a curveball.
Speaker ABut if you've got the buffers there, then it does help.
Speaker AI was horrified when I found out a good dog walker who works a decade longer than me charges 25% less per walk.
Speaker AI am putting the prices up again with the new tax year.
Speaker AI would rather have less well paying Customers have less well paying customers, yet they're running around the whole day long.
Speaker AYeah, exactly.
Speaker AAnd for some reason with dog walkers they all charge the same thing at £14 an hour.
Speaker ABetween, I found between £14 and £16 an hour for solo dog walks.
Speaker AWho made that price up?
Speaker AWhy is everyone charging the same?
Speaker ASurely you can't all have the same financial setup, so why is everyone charging the same?
Speaker ALook at your dog walks.
Speaker AI personally, and this is going off on a tangent, but I, I personally, if I was a dog walker and someone said I've got a dog that can only go on a solo dog walk because it's reactive and obviously you guys make money more money in group walks.
Speaker AI recharge in 30, 40 pounds an hour for that dog.
Speaker ABecause you could spend the hour doing group walk and earning yourself more.
Speaker ABut that customer has a specific need for their dog that they need to be the only dog on that walk.
Speaker ASo therefore they have to pay a premium for that service because otherwise you, you could have four dogs on that walk and earning a lot more money.
Speaker ASolo dog walks, they've priced more and try to avoid because you get more with the group walks.
Speaker AI know some people have to do solo walks and that's fine, but if the dog has a specific requirement and that's why you're doing it up your prices, because that is a specific need, therefore they should be paying a premium for it.
Speaker ASo just a little food for thought.
Speaker AThere are two things before I go.
Speaker AMake sure you do your homework.
Speaker ASecondly, if you're going to Crufts in March, please, please, please come and say hello.
Speaker AWe will be in Hall 1 stand 72.
Speaker AWe do have some Prosecco, usually behind the little podium and we also have non alcoholic beverages too.
Speaker ASo if you want to come and have a sneaky drink, alcoholic or not, then come and say hello to us.
Speaker ASome whole.
Speaker A1 stand 72 for those of you who are hitting the NTD threshold as of April, so that is a 50k turnover or more, you have to be NTD compliant by April and that includes rental income.
Speaker ASo you have to combine them.
Speaker AIf you rent out a house or a flat or whatever, if your combined turnover is 50k or more, you need to be registered with NTD from April, which means going on software, which means submitting four quarterly returns as well as a self assessment at the end of the tax year.
Speaker AWe are sending out information to our clients this week with regards to what they need to do and our prices.
Speaker ASo if you are in that boat and you haven't got an accountant or you're in that boat and you don't have software and you're thinking, oh my God, please, please, please get in touch with Tegan because she can talk you through the services that we're going to offer for MTD and also our prices her to do that for you.
Speaker AAnd her email address is on the screen teaganulpio.co.uk so please get in touch with her if whatever reason you're in that boat and you went wherever.
Speaker ANTD Mel's gotten a cruise on Thursday.
Speaker AFabulous.
Speaker AWe will see you there Mel, for a cheeky beverage.
Speaker AAlso, we've got about only 70 tickets left for the expo in October and then we will be fully booked and no more tickets will will be sold for the in person event.
Speaker AThis sort of stuff, the last sort of three or four podcasts are the sort of stuff that we're going to be going through at the expo.
Speaker APrice and marketing, all of this stuff that's going to help improve your business.
Speaker ASo if you want to come to an in person friendly event and Mel will attest to this, it's a very friendly, relaxed environment, come and help your business make some new friends.
Speaker AAnd we're going to have a little networking party afterwards on the Saturday night.
Speaker ANo one will be left on their own, so don't worry if you come on your own, it will make everyone feel inclusive and together.
Speaker AYou're not going to be sat having a drink on your own.
Speaker ASo please make sure you grab a ticket if you want to help your business out and learn and have fun whilst we're doing it.
Speaker ASo please grab your ticket to that because once they're gone, they're gone.
Speaker AIf you can't travel to Birmingham on 3rd October, it is being live streamed as well so you can watch it from the comfort of your own sofa.
Speaker AAnd hopefully, and I've said this last week, our new website will be going live.
Speaker AI would imagine in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker AThey're still working on it, so as soon as that is ready I will let you guys know.
Speaker AWe're out of tax season now, 31st of January's gone.
Speaker AHopefully you've all submitted your tax returns and paid for them.
Speaker AWe've still got a couple of latecomers that we're doing this week but it's a lot less stressful for me and me in February, March and we're gonna work behind the scenes to get stuff, extra stuff done for you guys come April and that includes the expenses guide which you can get on our website.
Speaker AAnd download for free.
Speaker AI'm going to revamp that and do a better one for you guys so you know what to include in your expenses.
Speaker ASo keep your eyes peeled for that and we'll let you know when that hits the website, which is also getting redone as well.
Speaker ASo all go in February, March.
Speaker AThank you very much for listening.
Speaker AMake sure that you subscribe to the Pet Accountant podcast.
Speaker AThese go live every Monday so if you want to go back and check the previous ones, just make sure you press the follow button and then you'll get an update of when one drops.
Speaker ABut they usually drop on a Monday so go back and listen to those and hopefully you will have a great week and earn lots of money.
Speaker APay yourself, please do your homework and then we will catch up next week with another episode.
Speaker AI might start a series on marketing because that is one of my favorite topics.
Speaker AI will see if I can get another one linked into this, but if not I might start a marketing series next week and we'll see where we go with that.
Speaker ABut thank you guys as always.
Speaker AGet like and get sharing.
Speaker AKelly, I missed it.
Speaker AI'm doing my accounts.
Speaker AI don't believe you for a second Kelly.
Speaker ASo there we go.
Speaker AKelly, you know you are my favorite, especially when you shared the wrong picture yesterday.
Speaker AIf you know, you know.
Speaker ABut yes, time to print those bank statements Dawn.
Speaker AAnd yet we'll see next week.
Speaker ADo the homework.
Speaker AIt will make a difference.
Speaker AUltimately we want you guys to make as much money as you can and also have a sustainable business, which is the mission.
Speaker ASo if you need help with any of it, feel free to contact me directly.
Speaker AYou can just change that email on there to Vicki V I C k y@coolpeo.co.uk if you need any help.
Speaker AOther than that I will get cracking and I'll see you guys next week and have fun and take care.
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