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Speaker AScott Lewton and Enrique Alvarez with you here on Supply Chain now.
Speaker AWelcome to today's live stream.
Speaker AEnrique, how you doing today, my friend?
Speaker BI'm doing great.
Speaker BAlways a pleasure to co host with you.
Speaker BIt's great to be here.
Speaker BI'm excited.
Speaker BStarting a new week as well.
Speaker BAnd we're ready.
Speaker BWe're ready.
Speaker BWe have a really good show.
Speaker AWe've got an outstanding show.
Speaker AWe got some big topics, folks today.
Speaker AI promise not to belabor the heat anymore.
Speaker AI've been told by numerous folks out there across the global supply chain now fam, that I've complained way too much about the heat.
Speaker AI should be used to it by now.
Speaker ASo that's my commitment to y'.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker ASo, so.
Speaker ABut as Trisha says, happy buzz day to everybody.
Speaker ALet us know where you're tuned in from.
Speaker AAnd of course, we want to hear from you throughout the hour.
Speaker AAs Enrique mentioned, folks, it's the Buzz where every Monday at 12 noon Eastern time, we discuss a variety of news developments across global supply chains and across the global business world.
Speaker ANews that matters is what we like to call it.
Speaker AAnd we've got a great show here today.
Speaker AWe're going to be diving into some of the recent trade deals or frameworks, critical observations on the global logistics market.
Speaker AHey, we're going to be sharing a few insights on the steel industry which has been in the news here lately.
Speaker AWe're going to offer up and discuss one stark assessment of what may lie ahead for the U.S. economy.
Speaker AAnd we're going to be sharing a few innovative procurement approaches that leading companies are taking all of that and more.
Speaker AAnd I get to do it with Mr. Good looking, the international man of mystery, Enrique Alvarez.
Speaker AEnrique.
Speaker AShould be a great episode of the Buzz, huh?
Speaker BIt definitely should be a good episode.
Speaker BAnd we have a lot of things to talk about.
Speaker BGood news, interesting news, and it's actually going to be definitely, definitely exciting time.
Speaker ASo, hey, if to your point, if Nadeem is here all the way from Saudi Arabia via LinkedIn, you know, it's going to be a great show.
Speaker ANadim, hope this finds you well, my friend.
Speaker AAnd looking forward to your perspective.
Speaker AAnd that really is a great segue because we got two friendly reminders for our supply chain now.
Speaker AGlobal Fam out there, number one, just like Nadeem said.
Speaker AHey, give us your take.
Speaker AIn the comments, whether you're tuned in via LinkedIn, YouTube X Facebook, Twitch, no matter, let us know what you think is important to us.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd secondly, if you enjoy the show today, we'd love for you to share it with a friend, your network, your Aunt Edna up in Illinois.
Speaker ANo matter, they'll be better off that you did.
Speaker AAnd you see this, Enrique, I've got my Sharpie ready to take 17 pages of notes from your expertise here today.
Speaker AOne more quick shout out.
Speaker AEd's tuned in from the United Kingdom via LinkedIn.
Speaker AGreat to see you, Ed.
Speaker AWhat part of that country you tuned in from?
Speaker AOkay, so Enrique, before we dive into the news, I've got a topic that is near and dear to your heart here because it's National Soccer Day here in the state.
Speaker ASo yesterday, Enrique, I was watching this incredible conclusion to the Euro 2025 women's tourney where England won in a shootout with Spain.
Speaker AMan, it was exciting.
Speaker AAmazing match and finish.
Speaker ACongrats to both teams and congrats to England winning, I think for the second year in a row.
Speaker AAnd then I realized on July 28, it's national soccer Day here in the States.
Speaker AMaybe we should rename that to football like the rest of the world.
Speaker ABut I'll save that for another day.
Speaker ASo, Enrique, you are a massive football fan, big fan of the game.
Speaker AWhat is one of your favorite all time football or soccer moments from your lifetime?
Speaker AThis is a fun warmup question I was telling you about.
Speaker BWell, first and foremost, let me say that I had no idea today was National Soccer Day.
Speaker BSo congratulations to everyone out there that's playing soccer.
Speaker BI'm from Mexico originally, and it's been amazing to kind of see the progress of the sport in this country.
Speaker BSo I'm very excited to be here in the US and being part of soccer, how it's been growing for years and years.
Speaker BAnd I'm pretty sure it will continue to do that.
Speaker BSo one of my favorite, and I've been playing soccer my whole life, but one of my favorite memories actually is not that old.
Speaker BIt's more recent.
Speaker BIt's like the World cup final, last one with Messi finally winning the World Cup.
Speaker BI mean, great player, great story and an amazing, amazing game.
Speaker BSo I think that that's kind of at least top 10 in my, in my book.
Speaker AYou know, I bet a lot of big fans of the wonderful sport of football or soccer out there.
Speaker AI bet that's on their list too.
Speaker AI heard a lot, a lot of talk about that tournament and I'm looking Forward to I think the US Is hosting what's the big tournament, is hosting regionals or wait, what?
Speaker BNo, the World Cup.
Speaker BWorld Cup's coming to U S, Mexico and Canada, which is one of the biggest news in the history right now.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BBut no, it's, it's going to be exciting and yes, we'll talk a little bit more about soccer as well as how soccer is connected to supply chains around the world because a lot of teams are getting ready, a lot of stadiums are being built.
Speaker BI was in Mexico last week and they're getting a couple subway stations ready to nice all the fans.
Speaker BAnd so that could potentially be a good episode at some point because there's a lot of supply chain involved in making all this thing happen.
Speaker AAll the sports, the world and certainly when the biggest competitions being the World cup not being very transparent, folks, I'm still learning, I'm a rookie soccer or football fan.
Speaker AI'm still learning all the different things big and small about the sport.
Speaker AI want to piggyback on something you shared there, Enrique, and we'll definitely need to do an episode about that.
Speaker AWe've got one of our favorite friends, part of our SCN fam that used to lead logistics for an NFL team and we published in with that said a few months ago back when the big game was taking place at super bowl he shared some observations from his time leading logistics for an NFL team.
Speaker ASo now I've gone back to him and said hey, training camps coming up.
Speaker AWe got preseason coming up.
Speaker AGive us some logistics experiences and observations there.
Speaker ASo stay tuned.
Speaker AWhether it's soccer or American football, we love exploring intersections, aware of how supply chain makes it all happen.
Speaker ASo let's do this.
Speaker ASpeaking of with that said Enrique, we had a great addition drop over the weekend.
Speaker ANow in this edition we focus on a few things.
Speaker AI'm going to cherry pick a couple one, hence the graphic you see there, the ongoing merger talks between Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern which could create the first coast to coast railroad network run by a single operator in U.S. history.
Speaker AWe'll see the last time a similar deal like this took place.
Speaker AIt took two years to get a deal done and that's assuming it gets past regulators.
Speaker ASo we'll see.
Speaker ASecondly, we talked about trade deals and trade drama.
Speaker ASo the White House announced a deal with Japan here recently in the last few days where Japan is agreeing to buy by a hundred Boeing planes amongst other parts of the deal and increase their spending with US defense companies by $3 billion.
Speaker AI hope Boeing's ready, hope they're ready.
Speaker AAnd as many of you may have seen over the weekend, in a story that keeps evolving here, the US and the European Union agreed to a deal framework which includes the EU agreeing to purchase $750 billion worth of energy, all sorts of different energy from the US and both deals largely include 15% tariffs on Japanese and European coming into the US beyond those stories, you got resources, live events, you name it.
Speaker AThis version was packed with good stuff.
Speaker ASo Enrique, you had some weekend homework.
Speaker ADid you check out with that said and if so, what stood out to you?
Speaker BI did.
Speaker BAnd it's actually again, highly recommended for all our listeners out there.
Speaker BIt's a good, quick way of getting familiar with what's going on in the news.
Speaker BAnd I think it's a good way of starting the week, if for nothing else, that you'll have bragging rights with your co workers and you'll be in the know when all those conversations start to happen.
Speaker BSo tariffs, I think that's one of the most important ones.
Speaker BWe've been keeping that story and that development very closely if you're a supply chain professional.
Speaker BAnd it's interesting to me, Scott, that they're looking into another 90 day truce that's probably going to be officially renewed today between us and China.
Speaker BI think that's going to be very important for our industry.
Speaker BAnd the other thing that I actually think it's interesting from that same WTS newsletter or article is that Mexico and Canada are about 30 and 35% when the EU will be 15%.
Speaker BSo that's something that's never happened in the history of the US and for the first time, NAFTA is going to be a lot more expensive.
Speaker BSo people might actually be able to bring products from Europe more than our neighbors.
Speaker AInteresting, interesting.
Speaker AYou know, I wish we had a whole hour to what you just shared there and we'll have to do that on a future show.
Speaker ABut folks, I'm going back to one of the first points Enrique made with.
Speaker AIn this environment we talk about all the time where velocity gets faster every day, whether it's trade, whether it's innovations, whether it's industry challenges, you name it, we got to stay in the know.
Speaker ASo if you don't get your news from here, that's okay, just get it from somewhere and a trusted news resource at that.
Speaker AOkay, Enrique, appreciate that folks.
Speaker ACheck out.
Speaker AWith that said, as Enrique mentioned, doesn't take long.
Speaker AI think it took like up at the top, it tells you the reading time.
Speaker AI think it was like five minutes.
Speaker AThat's a piece of cake, folks.
Speaker AAnd we got Trisha that dropped a link right there in the chat.
Speaker AAnd Nadeem says that Saudi Arabia is hosting the FIFA World cup in 2034.
Speaker ALove it.
Speaker AWe need to make a trip there, Enrique.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BAnd not to continue talking about soccer, but linking it to the weather, Scott, because I know you can't say anything about how hot it is, right?
Speaker BI might say that next year during July it's going to be hot.
Speaker BAnd I was in Mexico in Monterrey and it's even hotter than here in Atlanta.
Speaker BSo I was a little bit thankful that Atlanta is not as hot yet.
Speaker BAnd two, I don't know how they're going to play those games.
Speaker BBut to Nadim's point, sure, Saudi Arabia will be pretty hot too.
Speaker AOh, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker AOne quick point.
Speaker ASince we're gonna on National Soccer Day, we might as well give soccer a little extra due.
Speaker BWhy not?
Speaker AI love that the World cup is gonna be played across North America, as you're pointing out.
Speaker AYou know, and it's things like that.
Speaker ADespite all the trade vitriolic and governments this, that and the other, we need events like that to hopefully pull the people of these wonderful countries together in all parts of the world.
Speaker AAnd that's how a lot of times I'll view whether it's the Olympics, which I love, I'm big Olympics nerd.
Speaker AI'll be a future World cup nerd.
Speaker ABut I don't know about you.
Speaker AI'm looking at all sources I can to find common threads that allow us to get over disagreements and other friction that we find day to day.
Speaker AYour quick thoughts here, Enrique?
Speaker BNo, absolutely.
Speaker BAnd I think that if we don't need to look that hard, to be honest, I mean if we just were to look for a second or two, we'll realize that we have so much more in common, right, as human beings, regardless of where you're living, than what we have in differences.
Speaker BSo hopefully, yes, hopefully we can be a little bit more open to dialogue, straight, open, candid communication and then just trying to increase our trust levels in general because it's going to be needed for trade and it's going to be needed for supply chains to work without trust, it's going to be really, really hard to get us out of this mess that we're slowly kind of digging into.
Speaker ATrust, common threads and beer.
Speaker ALots of beer.
Speaker AAll right, so folks, here's your daily dose of practical optimism on this Monday, July 28th.
Speaker AReally quick.
Speaker ALK is back with us.
Speaker ALarry Klein down there in South Georgia where it is warm war Larry.
Speaker AHope this finds you well, my friend.
Speaker ALooking forward to your take on some of the topics we talk about here today.
Speaker AAnd we have got a logistics and supply chain Pro from India, 24 years of experience in all kinds of different areas.
Speaker AHow about that?
Speaker ASpeaking of tariffs, double segue, Enrique, this challenging trade and tariff environment we're in, we got a great resource folks you gotta check out.
Speaker AOf course, tariffs are top of mind for everybody, but especially distributors and manufacturers across global supply chain.
Speaker AThey wreak havoc on pricing and margins and a lot more things.
Speaker ALots of companies I would argue are still in that wait and see mode.
Speaker AWell, take that approach at your own peril.
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Speaker AAnd then better yet, it lets you adjust pricing instantly to protect those margins.
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Speaker ARight?
Speaker AGives you an opportunity to look around corners and have a much more accurate crystal ball.
Speaker AWe're dropping a link to this great resource in the comments so you can learn more both about our friends at Enable and you can demo this incredible tool.
Speaker AOkay, so where are we going next, Enrique?
Speaker AI think we're going to be putting our finger on the pulse of global logistics.
Speaker ASo folks, Enrique here has earned many nicknames, including the international man of mystery because I've rarely seen any anyone travel the world for business like this guy does here now.
Speaker ASo Enrique, as you work with so many leading companies to make global logistics happen, what are a few observations that you can share with us, my friend?
Speaker BI'll have to point out that all those nicknames were actually introduced by Mr. Scott, but I don't know if I could be considered the a man that travels a lot.
Speaker BI know that a lot of you guys out there travel a lot and it's probably part of the deal.
Speaker BIf you're in supply chain, you're actually dealing with a lot of different countries, a lot of different regions, a lot of different cities, which makes it for one of the privileges of working in this industry as well as some of the challenges as well.
Speaker BSo Scott, what I've been seeing, and for everyone that's listening, it's two things.
Speaker BOne, the slowdown demand in the U.S. everyone's like keeping an eye on the inflation.
Speaker BEveryone's still kind of talking, even though it's not super open or very straightforward about the potential recession.
Speaker BIs a recession coming?
Speaker BIt's not coming.
Speaker BSo I think that the economic conversations around the USA is something that I see being talked about around the world.
Speaker BNo matter where you are, people always ask you about how is the US Doing?
Speaker BEveryone seems to be, of course, worried about the situation we have here because it has very strong ramifications to the whole world.
Speaker BAnd then of course, the other one is just how can we build this trust back?
Speaker BHow can we make strategic plans?
Speaker BHow can we use AI to kind of improve our supply chains and how can we make it more efficient as companies continue to adjust to what will probably be the new.
Speaker BThe new norm?
Speaker AYes, I love the both those topics.
Speaker AAnd we're keeping eye on inflation, for sure, and its impact on consumer spending and how the consumers view all of us consumers, but how we all view the economy.
Speaker AAnd the secondly, building back trust, protecting that trust, growing that trust.
Speaker AThat's the name of the game in supply chain and many other parts of life.
Speaker AThose are two great observations there, Enrique, and we look forward to future updates from you.
Speaker AReally quick.
Speaker ABefore we get into the steel industry, Nadeem says, hey, why two names, soccer and football?
Speaker AWhat's the difference?
Speaker AI think they're one the same, Nadine.
Speaker AGood point.
Speaker AAnd Ed says, I don't think there's any difference.
Speaker ASoccer is American word for football, which.
Speaker AAnd football is the usual name in Europe.
Speaker AThat's right, Ed and Nadim.
Speaker AWe got sports commentary taking place in the comments and let us know, folks, do you play football slash soccer?
Speaker AAnd if so, what's your position?
Speaker AWhat's your favorite team?
Speaker AHelp educate me on the world's top sport.
Speaker AAny account.
Speaker AOkay, so Enrique, I want to shift gears.
Speaker AYou ready?
Speaker AYep.
Speaker BGo ahead.
Speaker AI'm asking permission.
Speaker AToday we're going to be talking about a rhetorical question.
Speaker BI'm sorry, it was terrible.
Speaker BTerrible.
Speaker ACo GUEST the steel industry has been in the news a lot lately and not just because of tariff negotiations, of course, Nippon still, I never know how to say that.
Speaker AI got to practice that.
Speaker ANippon still completed its acquisition of US Steel about a month ago, although it comes with some interesting golden shares that the US Government still holds.
Speaker AAnd separately over in the UK where Ed is to keep it from closing, the United Kingdom government recently took control of the last plant in the country, in that country that makes virgin steel.
Speaker AAnd that's in my view, a remarkable illustration of how the steel industry has evolved.
Speaker ABut here, Enrique, what I'm showing, the graphic on the screen here, interesting read from the New York Times that's really built around one central premise.
Speaker AWe're making way too much steel it states that according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, excess steel production is estimated to reach 721 million tons by 2027.
Speaker AGoodness gracious.
Speaker ANow, over the last 10 years or so, tons and tons of cheap steel has entered the global market from China, which has created quite a transformation and lots of new trends, opportunities and challenges.
Speaker AGet this, China makes more steel and aluminum than the rest of the world combined.
Speaker ABut as that country's economy has ebbed and flowed and slowed down in some cases, China has dropped its steel prices.
Speaker AAnd that creates quite a few challenges across the globe, especially as all countries and governments want to protect their access to this critical resource.
Speaker ASo it's good and bad as everything in life, good and bad, except if you win the lottery.
Speaker AThat's all good, I think.
Speaker ABut, Enrique, the steel industry.
Speaker AThe steel industry, there's a lot more.
Speaker AFolks, you got to check out the article.
Speaker AI really had to kind of recap at a very high level to check it out.
Speaker ABut Enrique, your thoughts?
Speaker BWell, it's interesting, right, because definitely a good article to read.
Speaker BAnd steel is considered now like an economic security asset for countries.
Speaker BSo everyone's trying to keep this steel production in house and they're trying to use steel production as a way to demonstrate how powerful a country is compared to others.
Speaker BBut this overcapacity is, of course, killing all the green initiatives, and it's going to be quite a dilemma.
Speaker BAnd I would kind of make an analogy with the prisoner's dilemma.
Speaker BEveryone around the world sees and understands that we're producing way too much steel than the one we need, yet no one wants to be the first one to stop.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BWhich again, right.
Speaker BIt's going back to what you were talking before, which is trust.
Speaker BI mean, we got to at some point trust each other because we have.
Speaker BAnd this is a silly example, somewhat silly, I guess, as of how not trusting each other can affect the world, can affect us, can affect our economies, because we don't need the steel.
Speaker BSo why do we keep producing it?
Speaker AInteresting, interesting.
Speaker AI think some would point to, you know, steel is one of those things that's critical for militaries, it's critical for construction.
Speaker AIt's critical to a lot of different elements of national security.
Speaker ASo it's like a.
Speaker AIn some cases, it's like a insurance policy.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd in fact, I think.
Speaker AAnd folks, I'm not an economist, nor am I a national security expert, but I think all of us especially are putting our supply chain practitioner hats on.
Speaker AWe can connect the dots.
Speaker AAnd I think my personal Take is when the government steps in to assume, I assume the operation is losing lots of money.
Speaker ASo when they step in and take control and ownership of a steel producing facility, even at a great loss, it is to protect that access and keep that within their control.
Speaker ABut it presents so many different challenges, so many different challenges.
Speaker ASo we're going to keep our finger on the pulse.
Speaker ABut we both thought this was a great read about a critical industry.
Speaker AThere's a lot more to it.
Speaker ASo y' all check out, I think.
Speaker ATricia.
Speaker AThank you, Tricia.
Speaker AThe link is right there in the chat.
Speaker ASo y' all give it a read and let us know.
Speaker AEnrique, you want to add one more thing?
Speaker AHuh?
Speaker BThe uk, for example, is nationalizing some of the plans.
Speaker BAnd then of course, we talked about the tariffs.
Speaker BIt's worth pointing out that tariffs in the US for steel, regardless of the UK are still at 50%.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo everyone's being very protectionist.
Speaker BAnd of course, it's important to also see that the more we produce, the prices are going to start going down.
Speaker BAnd historically speaking, when steel prices and oil prices are the lowest is usually six to 12 months before the industrial slowdown.
Speaker BSo are we heading into an industrial slowdown?
Speaker BMaybe.
Speaker BWe'll see.
Speaker AWe'll see.
Speaker AAnd we're going to talk about that in just a second.
Speaker AIt's a great segue.
Speaker ABut first, let me just point out, folks, I don't know if y' all have ever been in a still foundry, which I think this image here comes from, but just look at that image.
Speaker ASee how heavy industrial.
Speaker AI mean, we're talking about molten steel.
Speaker AIt's not for the faint of heart.
Speaker AWhen r I've ventured up to.
Speaker AThis is years and years ago, I ventured up to, goodness gracious, the Rome, Georgia area, right?
Speaker AAnd they had a really big foundry up there.
Speaker ABut Enrique, I tell you, after touring that massive plant and seeing cauldrons of molten still move everywhere, I had to get a beer and a marble red and smoke that thing after I left that facility.
Speaker AIt was amazing.
Speaker AFolks, if you get a chance to tour a foundry, do it, do it, do it.
Speaker AThere's more to that story, but for the sake of time, I'm gonna move on.
Speaker ALet's going back to trust, Enrique.
Speaker ALy says, fool me once, shame on me.
Speaker AFool me twice.
Speaker AWhen it comes to trust, just because you're forgiven doesn't necessarily mean they're forgotten.
Speaker AGot to keep it clean from the start.
Speaker AOutstanding advice there.
Speaker ALK and Abraham, peace be upon you.
Speaker AAnd to you, Abraham.
Speaker AHe's Got a diploma and logistics support.
Speaker ALooking for job opportunities or training.
Speaker AHey, we've all been there, Abraham.
Speaker AAnd if we can help out, we will.
Speaker AFolks, if y' all are in the know and can suggest something to Abraham, please share with him.
Speaker AOkay, let's see here.
Speaker AWe are going to dial it in on one frank assessment of where the US economy may be going here.
Speaker AJust like Enrique was asking that rhetorical question a minute ago.
Speaker AWell, check this out.
Speaker AWe included this great read by Wolfgang Lamacher.
Speaker AI hope I said his last name right.
Speaker AAnd with that said, I thought it was intriguing.
Speaker AIn particular, I think Enrique agrees with me and I'm gonna do my best to summarize a few key points.
Speaker ABut we recommend as all with all this stuff that you read in full and we're gonna drop a link to here.
Speaker AWolfgang points to the big moves being made at UPS and at FedEx as important barometers in the overall US economic wins.
Speaker AIf you haven't heard, UPS cut 20,000 jobs and has closed 73 facilities this year.
Speaker AOn the other hand, FedEx has been on the hunt for big time cost savings since 2023 and they thus far Enrique it found over $4 billion in cost savings and they're on the prowl for another billion.
Speaker AGoodness.
Speaker AWolfgang calls these moves quote alarm bells for the entire American economy, saying that the transportation and logistics sector is the economy's top forward looking indicator.
Speaker ANow he points out that data based metric based indicators like the Cash Freight Index show declining monthly activity in five of the past nine months.
Speaker AAnd where they think stand right now, they're considerably below year over year numbers as well as well below multi year peak numbers.
Speaker AWolfgang shares that past major economic downturns all started with freight indicators going negative.
Speaker AAnd that tends to be the first domino.
Speaker ABut the root cause, decreasing demand due to a wide variety of factors, especially I would argue global business uncertainty.
Speaker ANow what does it all add up to?
Speaker AMy crystal ball is pretty cloudy at the moment.
Speaker AIn fact the fog is so thick I need a Swiss army knife to cut through it.
Speaker AEnrique, where are we going?
Speaker AYour thoughts my friend?
Speaker BWell, I feel like as the article described and this is very important to note, what we're seeing and reading from UPS and some other companies are not just efficiency programs.
Speaker BSo they're just not cutting the fat or reducing cost.
Speaker BThey're really just putting the emergency brake.
Speaker BAnd that's not something I came up with.
Speaker BThat's I think a quote from the article and it has to do with, with trust and it has to do with the certainty of the tariffs that we're seeing and where everything's going to land.
Speaker BSo one thing that we all know as supply chain professionals is that we can see the economy a little bit clearer through the eyes of supply chain.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BParcel trucking data, all of those things move a lot quicker and faster before the consumers start to feel the hike in prices or the having less inventory in the shelves of stores and things like that.
Speaker BIt's a good indicator to keep track of and of course this can vary and then this can hopefully improve over the next last couple of months.
Speaker BBut as of now, all indicators point that we're still going to be in a little bit more trouble than what we already are in.
Speaker AYes, well said, very eloquent, very been there, done that, ish, even Ivy Leagueish.
Speaker AEnrique, a nice little combination.
Speaker AA perfect storm of perspective there from Enrique Alvarez.
Speaker BI'm having a good English day, Scott.
Speaker BWhat can I say?
Speaker BI have some days are not as good so I have to take advantage of it.
Speaker AYou're ahead of me.
Speaker AI need to have better Spanish days.
Speaker ABut folks, don't take our word for it and don't take necessarily Wolfgang's word for it, but this is great perspective that I think is thought provoking and so you'll enjoy it, I think as much as I will.
Speaker ASo check out the article.
Speaker AWill drop that right there in the chat and let us know what you think.
Speaker AOkay, let's see a couple quick comments here.
Speaker AAndre says hey, it's great to see you, Enrique.
Speaker AGreetings from Chicago.
Speaker AYou know Andres?
Speaker BYeah, I do actually from high school and so way, way back in Mexico and today's soccer day.
Speaker BSo Andres, a great soccer player.
Speaker BI remember playing with him and his team in Mexico City.
Speaker BSo Andres, great to see you man.
Speaker BThanks for tuning in and thanks for sending that comment.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AAndres, let us know your thoughts.
Speaker AWhere the U.
Speaker AS economy is headed.
Speaker AWhat's your purview there in the beautiful awesome city of Chicago?
Speaker AAll right, so going back to steel for a second before we move forward, Larry Klein says, hey, more isn't always better.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AA simple universal truth there.
Speaker ANow this LinkedIn user let me know who this is, Amanda and Tricia and I'm going to pop this back down.
Speaker AIt's a big comment.
Speaker ASays the global steel surplus is driven by overproduction and weakening demand.
Speaker AIncluding in the UK Major producers like China continue high output despite slowdowns in construction and industry.
Speaker AEconomic uncertainty, especially in China and the UK along with rising low cost exports was flooded global markets this imbalance is pushing prices down and straining the steel industry worldwide.
Speaker ASantano, excellent comment.
Speaker AAnd you know, really quick there, Enrique, not to go backwards too far, but you would think in a vacuum lower prices are great, lower input prices are great.
Speaker ABut the competition that it drives is really doing a lot of carnage as more and more steel producing countries are having to work harder to find buyers and they're not making nearly as much money.
Speaker ASo it'll be interesting to see where this evolution and this transformation goes next.
Speaker BJapan, big steel producer.
Speaker BI think he's one of those countries, Scott, that you were alluring to that is going to go and start to look for potential buyers and they're going to be very aggressive as well.
Speaker BSo we'll see, right?
Speaker AWe shall see.
Speaker AYou know, it's like the ripple effect.
Speaker ANothing stops with the first degree impact.
Speaker AIt's thousands and thousands of degrees, especially when you're talking about industry with global import as much as steel.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AHey, Will Quinn, the distribution guy.
Speaker AWill, we enjoyed your appearance a few weeks ago and good morning to you from Naperville, Illinois.
Speaker ALet us know your take on what we're working through here today.
Speaker BWill.
Speaker AAll right, let's see here.
Speaker AWell folks, going back to what's going on in the freight market.
Speaker AI want make sure this is on Yalls radar.
Speaker AWe've got an outstanding event coming up including one that offers key data driven and market driven insights into where we are with the domestic freight market and where we're going.
Speaker AGet this.
Speaker AOn August 6th, Grand Verse and I are hosting a discussion on the domestic freight market.
Speaker AWe're going to be featuring Bob Costello, chief economist and senior vice president of international trade and security policy for the American Trucking Association's.
Speaker AAlso back with us due to popular demand, Bobby Holland with US bank and we're going to be analyzing the US Bank Freight Payment Index for Q2 2025.
Speaker AHard to believe already there.
Speaker ANow folks, if you've been a part of these discussions previously, you know they always offer up an interesting and actionable collection of data and market driven expertise and observations from economic cleanings to supply chain to consumer behaviors to geopolitical and a whole bunch more.
Speaker ACome join us.
Speaker AAnd we're dropping a link right there for the August 6th discussion.
Speaker AOkay, Enrique, you hanging on?
Speaker AYou hanging on for dear life?
Speaker BYes, I am.
Speaker AWe're shifting again.
Speaker AWe're shifting again.
Speaker AWe're going over to the procurement industry.
Speaker AInteresting read here.
Speaker AI should say the procurement profession or the procurement function more so than industry maybe.
Speaker AAnyway, interesting read here from our friends over at Harvard Business Review that touches on several companies that have been digitizing various aspects of their procurement processes.
Speaker ASo check this out.
Speaker AI'm gonna pull out 2.
Speaker AEnrique might pull out another one.
Speaker AYou never know what Enrique is going to pull out.
Speaker AHe's gonna might surprise you folks.
Speaker ABritish Petroleum.
Speaker ABP is ramping up its ability to explore innovative and emerging technologies from multiple startups simultaneously via what they call a procurement technology garage.
Speaker AHow about that?
Speaker AIt has led to tons of rapid small scale pilot efforts to help determine basically what I'll call the winners and losers, especially from a scalable return on investment perspective.
Speaker AAnd Nicholas Wright, who is head of BP's garage, states a critical mindset that we've been hammering home I hope for years for many of y' all have too.
Speaker AHe says, quote, our ethos is problem first, solution search after, end quote love that is critical.
Speaker ANow speaking of scaling new technology, Walmart has invested into a procurement Technology center of Excellence approach.
Speaker ANow it started in 2018, so it's been at it for about seven years now.
Speaker AAnd the Coe center of Excellence trains leaders, buyers, suppliers and others in the Walmart global ecosystem and supports them kind of on the ground, so to speak.
Speaker AThe company has baked a highly localized approach as it has identified the various differences amongst the wide array of global markets.
Speaker AWell, all that presented a challenge.
Speaker AHow we do things in Atlanta, GA may need to be a lot different than how we do things in Mexico City or Moscow or wherever else across the world.
Speaker AThe aim seems to be to offer global best practices while encouraging and empowering local teams to kind of riff on the standard approach.
Speaker AWalmart says they've specifically seen tons of success in dollars in savings and efficiencies by leveraging E auctions instead of in person negotiations with potential suppliers, vendors along with this COE approach.
Speaker ASo Enrique, there's a lot there, there's a lot more to the article, but your thoughts here on procurement, innovation and experimentation?
Speaker BWell, it's very interesting, right?
Speaker BAnd we've talked about this a lot and you have talked about this a lot at the Boss and other of your platforms.
Speaker BIs changing supply chain really how technology is changing everything in this world.
Speaker BBut so the other company they talk about in the article, it's Auto Group and they're actually using smaller startup companies to come in into their company and help them with some of these technological challenges that they're having so they can test them in smaller scales, confirm their positive ROIs and then launch them and roll them out.
Speaker BSo I again I think this is more to the audience.
Speaker BIt's a great article and I would ask the audience, right, which one would be the approach for your company?
Speaker BIs it the BP approach, like having this procurement tech garages and testing first problems, first ROI and then solutions?
Speaker BIs it the Walmart kind of excellent center of excellence approach?
Speaker BOr do you hire other smaller startup companies to come in and provide solutions that you may or may not end up rolling out?
Speaker BBut it really depends on what kind of company you're working with and what kind of problems you're facing.
Speaker BBut it seems very interesting as it's a new way to approach technological rollout in your, in your industries.
Speaker AYes, well said.
Speaker AAnd you know, I would just add to that there's only one guarantee, only one unbreakable rule.
Speaker AAnd that is what has gotten us here is not what's going to get us there.
Speaker AAnd so I love these big behemoths that are looking at new ways of what I read in that article, finding success not only for their organization, their enterprise, but business and success for some current and new suppliers.
Speaker ASo pretty cool stuff.
Speaker ABy the way, if you love procurement, you need to make sure you check out the Art of Procurement by our friend Kelly Barner, who's doing some great work over there.
Speaker AAop, great in person events, great podcast content, you name it.
Speaker ASo check that out.
Speaker AAll right, so Enrique, Enrique, now look, the August 6th event is a big event.
Speaker AIn fact, I don't do little events.
Speaker AWe've got some of the best guests around the world in a variety of sectors and industries and that's why we're all here.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ABut this September 3rd event coming up, Enrique is going to be a very unique one.
Speaker AYou know, we're just talking a second ago about what global leaders are doing.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AWell, September 3rd we got a world class event.
Speaker AWe're hosting an incredible trio of supply chain titans.
Speaker AThat's right, actually, four.
Speaker AA trio is three.
Speaker AFour is.
Speaker AWhat's four, Enrique?
Speaker BQuartet, maybe.
Speaker AQuartets.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BI'm telling you, yes.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's awesome.
Speaker AEnglish Day.
Speaker ABetter you than me.
Speaker AA quartet of supply chain titans for a panel discussion on how they're successfully navigating navigating this never normal landscape.
Speaker AWhich is folks, here to stay, by the way.
Speaker AGet this.
Speaker AStephanie Beal, chief supply chain officer with Hasbro.
Speaker ASylvia Wilkes, chief supply chain officer with Lamb Weston, the food behemoth.
Speaker AAnd Whitney Schlesinger, Vice President, Global planning and logistics with what I think is the best spice and food company known to all of us.
Speaker AMcCormick.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AWe've all used a McCormick seasonings, had a great time with Whitney down at Gartner, folks.
Speaker ACorinne Burst is hosting this Power Pack panel with Stephanie, Sylvia and Whitney and you can't miss it.
Speaker AWe're dropping a link to this live, live session.
Speaker AMake sure you register and be ready.
Speaker ABe on your game with your comments and questions because that panel can bring it like few can.
Speaker AEnrique, when's the last time you saw a panel like that?
Speaker ALet me just ask that to you.
Speaker AI don't know what you're, how you're going to respond.
Speaker AWhen's last time?
Speaker BSo the companies are incredible.
Speaker BI think the conversation is going to be very, very interesting.
Speaker BAnd then the people that are actually working for those companies are even more impressive than the companies themselves.
Speaker BSo no, I, I think that's going to be a very, very good panel and definitely recommend everyone to sign up.
Speaker BHurry up.
Speaker ADon't wait till the last minute.
Speaker BNo, you got to get on your schedule or your agenda.
Speaker BEspecially if you're like me when the agenda kind of rules your day to day activities.
Speaker BJust put it in there.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AA no truth have ever been spoken.
Speaker AAnd Whitney, Ricky just shared there.
Speaker ABut good news is Tricia is dropping a link right there for that event and we welcome you to join us.
Speaker ALet's see here.
Speaker AI'm gonna go back a bit before we move forward.
Speaker AI think this still might be Santa new.
Speaker ALet's see here.
Speaker AThat's kind of big.
Speaker ALet me, let me do it like this.
Speaker AThey say three leading companies have successfully digitized their procurement processes.
Speaker AHe was just talking about the article me and Enrique were covering.
Speaker ALet's see here.
Speaker AAnd he to summarize these transformations that those three companies have been leading in their procurement areas and elsewhere, highlight the shift toward faster data driven and more resilient supply chains.
Speaker AWell said my friend.
Speaker ANow Andrew says, hey, I'd love to join you one day to share my insights on supply chain.
Speaker ABy the way, Enrique is not only a brilliant professional but also a fantastic soccer player.
Speaker AIs that right, Enrique?
Speaker BI like to believe that's true.
Speaker BBut thank you Andres.
Speaker BThat's very kind of you.
Speaker AVery kind.
Speaker AKeep.
Speaker AHey Andres, what else do you know about Enrique?
Speaker ALet's get some of the skeletons out of the closet, my friend.
Speaker BLet's do it on different episodes.
Speaker AGood stuff.
Speaker AGot a great crowd here today.
Speaker ALet's see here.
Speaker AWe are going to highlight in this last segment, Enrique, y' all came out with a great report that I think really illustrates in many ways what Vector is all about.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AAnd when I say Vector, Vector Global Logistics, which Enrique Helps to lead and co founded it.
Speaker ASo now, of course, we collaborate on a couple of really important initiatives.
Speaker AOne is logistics with purpose that you lead along with Christy and a shout out to Nuria and the whole gang to help make that happen.
Speaker AAnd number two, supply chain now in Espanol.
Speaker ASo big shout out to Sophia and Andre are doing great work with that growing platform, but that's just part of the equation, not to minimize those things at all.
Speaker AIt's a really big equation.
Speaker AWhen I talk about the equation, I'm talking about how Vector is making a big difference in this world in the good times and the bad times.
Speaker ASo y' all recently released this impact report for 2024.
Speaker AAnd this is comprehensive, folks, as I like to say.
Speaker AWhen I first met Enrique Alvarez, very first time at the Georgia Logistics Summit, I think it was ages ago.
Speaker AIt feels like 30 years ago now.
Speaker AAnd I was getting to know him, I think the third bullet point out of his mouth was, I'm changing the world.
Speaker AWe're changing the world.
Speaker AAnd I kind of snickered, but Enrique didn't.
Speaker AAnd you could tell that's his mission every single day.
Speaker AAnd better yet, he's not talking about it.
Speaker AHe's doing it as this impact report shares.
Speaker ASo, Enrique, I wish we could do it justice and go through page by page, but what's a couple of most important things about what y' all do for industry and for humanity that is really important to you?
Speaker BWell, we're incredibly proud of that.
Speaker BAnd I got to say, that's one of the most fun things that I have to work with the whole year, just putting this impact report out and just sharing with people that I like and know.
Speaker BWe send 13 containers to Ukraine.
Speaker BWe continue those conversations, we help Valencia.
Speaker BBut the two things God would be while doing all that, we first and foremost start connecting people together.
Speaker BSo we put the weekly calls that then become monthly calls and then become quarterly calls.
Speaker BAnd we have done this for Valencia.
Speaker BWe've done this from Ukraine in 2024.
Speaker BAnd just connecting amazing people out there.
Speaker BI feel it's one of the most important things that we've done.
Speaker BSo taking everything out of it, just the connections that we have been able to foster are just really, really amazing.
Speaker BAnd I cherish them a lot.
Speaker BThe other one that I'm particularly proud of in 2024 is that we became a B Corp certified and we also concluded our ISO certification.
Speaker BSo those two certifications, but the B Corp in particular, I'm incredibly proud of.
Speaker BAnd one of the big milestones for 2024.
Speaker AThat's a tough credential to earn.
Speaker AFirst off, folks, I want to make sure.
Speaker ACheck this out.
Speaker AYou know, this is a great opportunity whether you want to get to know Enrique and the team better as you look at different suppliers and partners.
Speaker AIf you want to benchmark, you know, with what your own company is doing out there, you want to look for ideas of how you can make a greater difference.
Speaker AThat to Enrique's point, not only will you delight customers and really everyone in your ecosystem when you're doing great things, far beyond the business side of things, so to speak, but I bet your team members, Enrique, I bet very active central part of your culture in terms of giving forward and making a difference.
Speaker AI bet your colleagues talk about that and laugh about it and smile about it.
Speaker AReally enjoy it, huh?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BAnd I think when people ask, well, what's the return on the investment?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BWhy are you a purpose driven organization?
Speaker BIt's very easy to quantify, right?
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's not because we want to feel better, which we do, and we're very proud of that, but it's really because if you are a purpose driven organization, it becomes a huge competitive advantage, right?
Speaker BYou can go out there and start working with companies that care about what you care and they see the value in that.
Speaker BYou can start recruiting people that want to work for a company that's actually, that means something more than just making money.
Speaker BAnd I think those two things, and working with better suppliers, working with better people, that makes you stronger as a company.
Speaker BSo as a strategy, being purpose driven pays off.
Speaker BAnd I would recommend that everyone actually tries it or at least looks into it because I think it makes a big difference and makes you be a much better player in this crazy industry of ours.
Speaker AYes, player, competitor, contributor.
Speaker APushing all of global industry forward in different ways, which is important to do.
Speaker AYou know, Global supply chain is all about moving stuff and making stuff and returning stuff and all that stuff.
Speaker AOf course, right?
Speaker ABut I'm of the firm belief that Global Supply Chain is in a very unique position to make the lives of folks around the world much better day by day.
Speaker AAnd I appreciate what you are doing there, Enrique Alvarez.
Speaker AOkay, so check that out, folks.
Speaker ATricia dropped the impact report link right there.
Speaker ALots of ideas you can benchmark.
Speaker AI bet Enrique would invite.
Speaker AI bet you'd love the talk shop about what's in that impact report, Enrique.
Speaker AIs that right?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BPlease feel free to reach out.
Speaker BWe love off the comments.
Speaker BWe love to hang out with people that are smart and driven.
Speaker BLike, I know people are in this industry.
Speaker BSo reach out to us if you have any comments, feedback or suggestions.
Speaker BWe'll be more than happy to talk about that.
Speaker AFor sure.
Speaker AWe sure will.
Speaker AWe sure will, folks.
Speaker ADo it.
Speaker ABring your questions, the easy ones and the hard ones.
Speaker AEnrique can handle them all.
Speaker AAll right, Enrique.
Speaker AMan, do we have to really stop here?
Speaker AAre you good for another hour?
Speaker BI'm done.
Speaker BYes, sure.
Speaker BLet's do it.
Speaker BIt.
Speaker BI'm good, Scott.
Speaker AYes, you are.
Speaker AFolks, we had too much fun today on the buzz.
Speaker AReally enjoy learning from and leading with Enrique Alvarez.
Speaker AAnd you will too.
Speaker ALet's make sure we give folks the opportunity, Enrique, to connect with you.
Speaker AThe talk shop, to collaborate on initiative, to move stuff and then some.
Speaker AHow can folks track you down?
Speaker AEnrique?
Speaker BThe best way to contact me is probably other LinkedIn under Enrique Alvarez.
Speaker BYou can go to our website vector gl.com and you can look for my email there.
Speaker BIt's enrique.alvarezector gl.com Send me an email or send me a brief text on LinkedIn and I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can.
Speaker AAnd we've got the Vector site.
Speaker AYou can spectrugl.com you can find the podcast Logistics with Purpose, the outstanding work in a really unique vein.
Speaker AThey feature a lot of missions and nonprofits.
Speaker AEnrique, speaking of, y' all had an episode last year, I want to say.
Speaker AHard to believe it's been that long, but there's a soccer tournament that benefits.
Speaker BYep, the Homeless World Cup.
Speaker AHomeless World cup.
Speaker BAnd it's coming up, by the way, Oslo is hosting it this summer.
Speaker BI think it's going to be in August 20th.
Speaker BI'll have to get back to you on the exact dates, but it's coming up.
Speaker BYou can Google the Homeless World cup and it's a really interesting tournament.
Speaker BI'm glad you reminded me of that because it's National Soccer Day also.
Speaker BAnd to kind of close the circle, I think someone one of our listeners asked about soccer and the word soccer in football.
Speaker BI I quickly chatgpt it.
Speaker BAnd the word soccer comes from England.
Speaker BIt officially was duped the association football in the 19th century in England.
Speaker BAnd Oxford students clipped association to the slang soccer to distinguish it from rugby football.
Speaker BAnd then of course, the nickname soccer just tacked along for many, many years after that.
Speaker BSo I have criticized soccer and I have actually pegged it to the US but now I am corrected.
Speaker BThe name actually comes from England.
Speaker BSo thank you to all those English Oxford students that came up with the term soccer that now we don't like.
Speaker AEnrique, you got to choke the right neck, as they like to say.
Speaker BYes, I've been barking to the wrong tree.
Speaker AYeah, there you go.
Speaker AAnother great idiom.
Speaker AAlso, as he was sharing his Google.
Speaker AI'm gonna share my Google, folks, if you're interested in the Oslo 2025 Homeless World cup up, not only can you go back and listen to the logistics with purpose episode where I think y' all interviewed the founder, as I recall in rename.
Speaker BYes, very interesting episode.
Speaker AYep, yep.
Speaker AYou can check that out or you can go to homelessworldcup.org and those dates for this year's event is the 23rd through the 30th of August.
Speaker ASo y' all check that out.
Speaker AOkay, Enrique.
Speaker AAnd when we say the news that matters, we try to deliver on that.
Speaker AAnd we also try to, you know, if we were going to be here all day for all the news that matters, it'd be like a what, a 27 hour live stream and it would bore the world to death.
Speaker ASo we try to take some of the most relevant and critical news stories and developments and share it with you, but we're always welcome to your feedback.
Speaker AEnrique Alvarez with logistics with purpose with Vector, Global Logistics with AKA the international man of mystery.
Speaker AEnrique, great to have you here.
Speaker AReally have enjoyed your perspective as always and your mission and your commitment to giving forward, my friend and I enjoyed all your perspective on what'd you call it, a good English day.
Speaker BGood English day.
Speaker AGood English day.
Speaker BI'm gonna go out there today and just keep talking to people.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker APlease do.
Speaker ANow's the time.
Speaker AAnd Ed says, hey, it looks like I was wrong.
Speaker AThanks for the clarification, Enrique.
Speaker AEd, that's why we're here, my friend.
Speaker AAnd great to have you here on the bus.
Speaker AGreat to have everybody.
Speaker AEd and Santano and Will and Larry and Trisha and Amanda and many others.
Speaker ANo, couldn't hit everybody's comment, but hey, folks, hope you enjoyed today's show.
Speaker ABig thanks Enrique Alvarez.
Speaker ABig thanks everybody that showed up.
Speaker ABig thanks to Amanda and Trisha behind the scenes to help make it happen.
Speaker AMost importantly, big thanks to our global audience for being here with us through the best part of this entire journey.
Speaker ABut you got homework, folks.
Speaker AYou got homework.
Speaker ANumber one, be sure to find, as Tricia says, find, subscribe, supply chain out wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker AWe got an easy, convenient link right there.
Speaker AYou're one click away.
Speaker AAnd secondly, oh, this three pronged homework.
Speaker AAnd Amanda, if you could grab that link that Enrique just dropped behind the scenes, I think that goes to the homeless World cup episode that we want to make it really easy for folks so we can drop that link in the chat.
Speaker AWe'll knock that out.
Speaker AAnd thirdly, take one thing, folks, just one thing, at least two if you really ate your Wheaties and you're taking your vitamins.
Speaker ABut just take one thing you heard here from Enrique today.
Speaker AShare it with your team.
Speaker APut it into practice, deeds, not words.
Speaker AThat's how we're going to continue transforming global supply chain, global business and leave no one behind.
Speaker AAnd with that said, on behalf of the entire Supply Chain now team Scott Luton, challenging you.
Speaker ADo good, get forward.
Speaker ABe the change that's needed.
Speaker AWe'll see you next time right back here on Supply Chain now.
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