[00:00:00] Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. I think this week is truly going to be a catch-up kind of

[00:00:05] episode. Just what's going on, what are we about to do, what have we just done? We've just been

[00:00:10] kind of yapping the past couple of weeks, gotten off on some wild tangents. And I would like to

[00:00:17] point out that even though in Tennessee there is a heat advisory, it is the hottest week of the year,

[00:00:23] Nate is wearing a leather jacket. And I would like to point out that it's approximately

[00:00:28] 63 degrees in this room, at the current time. I was wearing a jacket on the last one as well. It

[00:00:34] is chilly. But he committed to the bit after Matt showed him up last week. It ain't a competition,

[00:00:42] we're just trying to elevate. I ain't never seen that page boy hat you got on. Making

[00:00:47] a collection? Is it new? It's a Cracker Barrel special, a Cracker Barrel hat. Oh,

[00:00:53] yeah. Serious page, Cracker Barrel. Oh no, you're serious. And Walmart's drip has gone up. Oh,

[00:01:00] I knew the Walmart lore, but Cracker Barrel, every once in a while, at least the one in Cookeville,

[00:01:04] they'll have, I've gotten two of these from Cracker Barrel. Really? And I would like more

[00:01:10] neutral, I be that person. You got to really talk into your mic, can you hear me? You're

[00:01:16] the person like, like the whole, oh I already know, I already know, I edited the last one.

[00:01:22] I'm just, before we get to, I'm just giving you a little, I also talk really soft too and mumble, so

[00:01:27] I'm trying to not do that either. Look at my stuff private, I could have had a text message up there.

[00:01:33] There's Lily. No, we're inducing next Monday. What do you mean, next Monday? This Monday or next,

[00:01:41] like five days from now? You're not going another week and a half, are you? I think that's the,

[00:01:48] maybe it's either next Monday or the Monday after this coming Monday. She's already 39 weeks, it has

[00:01:52] to be this Monday. Something like that. Today the 13th. What rings about, the 13th? Okay. Oh,

[00:01:57] but the 13th is, they couldn't get her in for the induction. If she shows up,

[00:02:01] obviously they're going to do it, but they couldn't get her in for the induction until

[00:02:05] then. But that's the last call. They're worried that the baby is getting a little too big for her

[00:02:10] tiny little body, so that's the last straw. If she doesn't have it by then, then we're taking it out.

[00:02:16] So, like I said, it's a heat wave here in Tennessee. I think it's a heat wave kind of across

[00:02:23] the South, and I don't know other states' lore and their weather, but here you could literally

[00:02:29] just walk outside and cut the air, tonight with the weather. Give us the, what does the humidity

[00:02:35] look like for that kind of weather, where you get out of a hot shower and walk into another

[00:02:39] hot shower anytime you just walk out the door? The humidity is certainly 80 percent or higher,

[00:02:46] which is not, that's when you start experiencing the outer shower, it's not a joke. You both showed

[00:02:53] up and looked so nice and put together, and I've been outdoors since 5:00 a.m. and have just been

[00:03:02] drenched. No, it's brutal out there right now. It only takes five minutes walking outside to get,

[00:03:07] I just walked in probably seven minutes ago and we were at the barn, and my back is still like

[00:03:12] this in a 63 degree room, I'm a little shivery because my back is soaking wet. Miserable. But

[00:03:20] we've been kind of altering our schedule, and I think I'm a new person, a big morning

[00:03:25] guy, a big early morning person. I think I'm a new person. But my problem is, so for backstory, we

[00:03:31] all decided, for the animals' health and for our health, we're not on a set schedule as far as a

[00:03:38] feeding schedule or whatever, so let's just start earlier. Let's just do like 5:00 to 5:30 until

[00:03:45] 2:00. We come in from the outdoors by 10 or 11, and then we're in editing and doing office stuff

[00:03:54] until 2:00. And I've been really liking it. Yeah, the problem is I don't go to bed earlier. That's

[00:04:04] the only problem with this system, not going to bed. I went to bed at 1:00 the first two nights,

[00:04:12] which is my norm. And then last night I made myself go to sleep at midnight, so it'll hit me

[00:04:23] at some point, but I'm trying to get the girls on this new train. It's the best because even in the

[00:04:30] winter it gets dark so early, so we just need to start earlier. Is this what turning 30 is?

[00:04:35] Yes. Wow, you just found it, this is what it is. I turned 30, mind you, my entire life I have been

[00:04:46] a stay-up-till-3:00-a.m., sleep-until-11 person. I love being up all night long, I'm super productive

[00:04:55] honestly, and I can sleep forever, and this is not me. I turned 30 three weeks ago, and now I'm like,

[00:05:05] why don't we just start at daylight? There was no pushback on that 6:00 a.m. time, it was just like,

[00:05:11] yeah, let's do it. When we did the mini horses, I was like, well, let's say 6:00, because usually

[00:05:18] when I'm like, guys, let's do an early morning, and they're like, okay, what, and I'm like, 8:30?

[00:05:29] I'm up at 8:30 anyway, y'all be here at 8:30 and we'll start when we start.

[00:05:36] Not anymore. My boy, it's hot, it is freaking hot. And that's the hard part with animals,

[00:05:45] we're still trying to train, we're still trying to get content, meaning they have to have some

[00:05:51] sort of personality and life in them. It's just so hot to the point where from 9:00

[00:05:57] a.m. until 7:00 p.m. everyone is just miserable and blah. So I already rode Rikki this morning,

[00:06:04] I already rode Shelby, I was there with Rebecca while her little girls got a lesson,

[00:06:09] I've already made six videos. What time is it? It's 10 on the dot. So,

[00:06:18] I really like it, this is, yeah, I'm excited about this, I'm an adult now.

[00:06:22] Haven't put a shade cloth on the garden. A shade cloth? What are you growing in there? Cucumbers,

[00:06:31] okra, cabbages, corn, tomatoes, peppers, herbs, lavender. I've been decently successful with

[00:06:39] flowers, I have never been successful with tomatoes, and this is my first time doing

[00:06:43] a flower garden. Herbs, let me just say, I have not touched my herb garden in three years

[00:06:48] and that bad boy is still going, that bad boy is yielding. So the herbs are good. Herbs are

[00:06:53] great. I actually just made pickles for the first time the other day, going to

[00:06:57] see how those turn out here shortly. I also am having a problem with cucumber beetles though,

[00:07:01] so if any of you gardeners out there know the fix, other than neem, let us know in the comments,

[00:07:06] it'll help you. This is my first year, last year it was the aphids on my tomato plants,

[00:07:14] but I have strategically planted herbs and whatnot that are pest-controlling for specific beds,

[00:07:22] and it's great. This is the best crop I've ever had, ever. This is my second garden,

[00:07:26] but this is the best crop I've ever had. I'll just go out there at 5:00 in the morning with my cup

[00:07:31] of coffee and my underwear, and I'll just look, do the old dad pose. Am I wrong in saying that?

[00:07:40] And this would make it a little beautiful too. Marigolds apparently keep stuff away,

[00:07:48] but they stink, French marigolds do. I don't have the French marigolds, so they aren't as

[00:07:54] helpful, but they do look pretty. And I do have a designated flower garden this time for

[00:07:58] pollinators, and it's just, I have so many bees, so many butterflies. He's not 30 yet, but he's

[00:08:04] there. I've been 30 for like the last five years. This is, I love it, I literally love it. I've had

[00:08:11] my neighbors come over and give me compliments on it. Oh my gosh, truly a rush, what a rush.

[00:08:17] But speaking of a rush, and this is just a little something I'll throw in there for bragging rights,

[00:08:23] Nate and I yesterday got a reservation at the Catbird Seat. What is that? Very excited about

[00:08:30] that. It's a Michelin star restaurant here in Nashville, and we have always wanted to

[00:08:34] go to a Michelin star restaurant. All three of us seriously thought about it, and the only reason,

[00:08:39] I don't deserve it, it's that you wouldn't do it. I know, that's what I'm saying, I don't

[00:08:44] deserve a seat at that table. You just actually wouldn't eat. Exactly, because you don't order,

[00:08:50] it's a set menu. It's a set nightmare, it's your nightmare. Exactly, nightmare. We thought about it

[00:08:56] because comparatively the price was like $100 per seat to reserve, to make the reservation.

[00:09:04] Which was ridiculous, but immediately made me want to go even more, I was like, how exclusive. But

[00:09:09] the menu, the dinner, is a set price of like $200, which overall, do they do a wine pairing separate,

[00:09:16] and stuff like that, you pay for all that, that's where they get you I'm sure. But all in all, it's

[00:09:21] really not that, where we ate before the comedy show, I felt like, of course there were quite a

[00:09:27] few people, but probably the same price point. But you get to pick what you want. It's a fancy

[00:09:32] evening, and the reservations go out really quick, I had to call at 12:00 when it opened for us. Are

[00:09:39] your wives Michelin star eaters? Macy was actually a designer on the restaurant, his wife is so cool,

[00:09:52] they're both so cool, they both have their own niches that they're so good at, which is awesome.

[00:09:56] I love when people throw themselves into a passion and are good at it. So I'm really excited to see

[00:10:03] what stuff she picked out. She also, out of the goodness of her heart, we were just,

[00:10:13] it's kind of like this wall, things just don't get done. We have all the intentions, we have a little

[00:10:20] space here in the shop that we really want to make into an office, and we just had all the intentions

[00:10:26] of shopping and creating this space, and finally I was like, Macy, please make me a space. So I'm

[00:10:34] excited to see that come together. The PJs are the coolest thing I think. She, there's a pajama

[00:10:42] company, in my Sundays, and she's done quite a few designs of those pajamas as well. I know somebody

[00:10:50] else who is coming out with pajama stuff that might need to hit her up. That would be cool.

[00:10:55] I would wear some Running Springs PJs. Did you know we did that? They've just sold out so fast it

[00:11:06] hasn't gotten to everyone yet. I launched pajama pants, and within hours they sold out. They're

[00:11:18] really soft, they're not too heavy. Are they kind of like the stretchy cotton, what does it feel

[00:11:24] like? It's poly-rayon. I should know this because I just did a whole ad about it, my brain is fried.

[00:11:35] No, I would say they are geared more towards a fall PJ pant, they're really soft, really fuzzy,

[00:11:45] they've got mares all over them, we did a mare design. And so they sold out in like four hours,

[00:11:50] and everyone's like, not cutesy, they're more, they're cute, like they're cute, not like

[00:12:01] Christmas PJs or whatever, they have more of a springy type of vibe. But I sold out so fast that

[00:12:10] even subscribers were like, get them back, come back. So we did a big order in a warehouse. That's

[00:12:19] the thing, we've never done this before, where we're ordering beforehand, and ordering stuff with

[00:12:26] sizes is super difficult. It's one thing if we're like, okay, we're going to order 4,000 coloring

[00:12:33] books or whatever, and sometimes they sell out or sometimes we just have them in the store. Well,

[00:12:37] with pants it's like, how many smalls do we order, how many larges, everybody struggles with that.

[00:12:44] Okay, you were talking, this is totally in an entirely different direction than pajamas,

[00:12:49] but you're talking about pre-ordering things. It's a nightmare, it's so hard. I can't remember what

[00:12:55] I was reading, but it was something along those lines, but with a house. What if you could sell

[00:13:01] your house this way? I don't even know if you can, but you basically pay $10 for a raffle, and say,

[00:13:11] okay, I'm going to sell my house, I need to get $300,000, so you can buy my house for $10, we're

[00:13:20] just going to do a drawing. If I sell a certain amount of tickets, we go through with it, if not,

[00:13:24] you're refunded. But you pay $10 for a chance at a house, maybe worth $600,000. That's considerable,

[00:13:32] it's considered a lottery. And it's illegal in a lot of states. Yeah, foil the plan. Raffles

[00:13:42] are illegal in a lot of states, because I see people on Facebook do that constantly

[00:13:47] for horses. They'll be like, and it depends, sometimes it's okay, sometimes they'll be like,

[00:13:52] hey, we have 50 spots for 50 bucks a piece, to win this futurity two-year-old or whatever,

[00:14:02] and people do it. I did it for a donkey one time, I didn't win. What is that, $2,500? 50 times 50 is

[00:14:14] $2,500, yeah. I mean, I did that one time for a chance to meet Emilia Clarke. She was having, it

[00:14:37] was like the season 8 final episode watch party or whatever, you could pay, I don't even want to know

[00:14:49] how many chances I bought, this was right out of deployment, this was at the end of my deployment,

[00:14:55] I was just about to come home, so I was very single, and I had to get married at some point,

[00:15:01] so I was like, well, shooting my shot. I had it all worked out, getting winning was just,

[00:15:12] I already had what I was going to do when I got there, what I was going to wear, like winning.

[00:15:15] What was it, give us the plan. But I didn't win, actually some girl from Philadelphia won.

[00:15:22] She didn't deserve it. There was a whole dinner, a watch party, I just couldn't imagine. I used

[00:15:27] to think she was so cool, that was the last time I was really big on watching behind the scenes,

[00:15:33] watching what these people do in their personal lives. I get that y'all watch TV shows or movies,

[00:15:41] that was the last one I watched, but wanting to be filmmakers, you watch it from that perspective

[00:15:47] versus just watching a TV show. It's actually really difficult for me, it has to be good.

[00:15:54] That's what I look for, something that I can watch instead of being like, oh, this sucks, because the

[00:16:00] problem is as soon as I see something that makes me go, how did they do that, you're locked in,

[00:16:06] which is why I like anime so much, because I'm not worried about that, I don't expect any of

[00:16:11] this to be feasible. Sometimes it'll be like a mirror shot, and the camera will go through

[00:16:16] the mirror into the next room, and I'm like, how did they do that, back it up, back it up.

[00:16:21] The funny thing is, I don't know if you can tell, we sat down today because we just needed to film

[00:16:26] this, and we were like, so what are we chatting about today? I had all my coffee drank probably

[00:16:32] before she got the intro out. Yeah, I drank my coffee as well. That's actually a funny story too,

[00:16:40] I had a guy coming over to quote me some windows for my house, and I'm a nervous fiddler, whether

[00:16:50] it's, so I'm sitting here talking to this guy, and I didn't realize I'm on my sixth cup of coffee,

[00:16:57] because I'm just talking, when I need to have something to do with my hands,

[00:17:00] so I just go fill up another cup and keep talking, fill up another cup and keep talking. He left and

[00:17:06] I was just sweating, and it was a bad situation. I was like, whoa. And then my wife was like,

[00:17:16] yeah, did you not notice him looking at you oddly when you went back for your fourth cup? Anyway,

[00:17:22] the fifth and the sixth. And that's kind of where I'm at now, this Death Wish stuff. Jonathan

[00:17:28] refuses to have normal coffee. Well, that's what happens when you drink coffee all the time,

[00:17:32] it doesn't work. I need a coffee detox, is what I need. Every now and then Nate just decides to be

[00:17:39] completely unattainably clean eating and clean drinking, no caffeine, no sugar, no whatever.

[00:17:46] When are we getting back to that, when's your next run? If I'm just guessing based off of my current

[00:17:52] mental state, I would probably say late August. I've got, we talked about this not too long ago,

[00:18:05] it could be really soon. I just signed up for something called Rhythm, maybe you've seen ads,

[00:18:13] it's basically a blood test, you do it at home and send it in, you can do one a month. I could

[00:18:18] never do that to myself. It's not, it's like a little patch that sticks to your arm, you just

[00:18:24] hit the button and it fills up a little thing, you send it in. So I'm like, okay, well I can get my

[00:18:29] blood work done every month. I may get the first one, I think as soon as the first one comes back,

[00:18:35] whatever it says, even if it says everything's all good, I'll go, oh, we got to keep it there,

[00:18:41] and then that's when it'll start. So, something to think about, NSBA World is in August, so we're

[00:18:47] going for a long time, we're there for quite a while. We have a banging house, okay, we have a

[00:18:53] sick house with a pool, we're going to make the best of it. It's going to be a really fun time,

[00:18:56] because when you go somewhere for that long, how long, 10 days, if you don't have a good place to

[00:19:02] stay, it just really sucks. We'll have a little bit of downtime, but like I said in the last

[00:19:07] episode, we have the potential for 10 classes that my horses will be showing in. I won't be showing

[00:19:14] that many, but my horses at least. And so, one of the things that y'all haven't experienced yet,

[00:19:21] going to these horse shows with me, is night rides. Okay, so at these big horse shows

[00:19:27] where there are specific arenas, and the horse show goes from 8:00 a.m. sometimes until late,

[00:19:32] the only time that you can get your horse in that arena is in the middle of the night. So they have

[00:19:38] scheduled sections, they'll be like, okay, western riders can come in from midnight to 2:00 a.m.,

[00:19:43] and then the hunter saddle horses can come in from 2:00 to 4:00, or whatever. So we're going to have

[00:19:50] to do that. We probably won't make everybody get up, it'll probably just be like, hey, I need one,

[00:19:56] I'll be pretty loud when I need one, buddy, and it doesn't matter, because if I'm up, I'm up,

[00:20:04] so I might as well go, if we're up, everybody's up. It'll probably just literally be me,

[00:20:10] Stephanie, and Rachel, and, no, I'll at least go ask him, did y'all, sorry, hey y'all,

[00:20:23] if you were wanting to go, we're about to leave. So we'll do that, because every time that you've

[00:20:32] gone to Congress with me, the World Show, we're just there watching, we're not participating,

[00:20:40] certainly not in the middle of the night at the Congress, and we'll have to do night rides.

[00:20:43] Night rides. Well, there's also more shopping, I'm pretty excited about these next, I'm excited about

[00:20:48] the big ones. I got to go see my homies at Brink's Hattery, that wasn't a shout-out, but we're also

[00:20:57] Shorty's Cowboy Hattery people as well. I want to go, they have, I have a Shorty. They were saying,

[00:21:03] their big booth the last few horse shows they've had, is this where you're going to have one made?

[00:21:08] No, but, why not, because what I want is, they may not have, usually for shows like that they

[00:21:15] bring a set stock or whatever, they can give you three or four different options. I've seen them

[00:21:20] make some really cool custom stuff, and they said at that show is where they also do your birthday,

[00:21:29] and usually you both get a present while we're at horse shows because mine's in August,

[00:21:36] which is a horse show month, and that's why he got his cowboy hat, that's when I got my hat. I paid

[00:21:41] for my own though, but it wasn't your birthday. I also got a cool jacket, and to this day that

[00:21:49] jacket that you got me for my birthday has been my favorite article of clothing I have ever had,

[00:21:55] I wear it, that is a September-through-March wear, buddy, if it's below 80 it's at least out. That

[00:22:06] jacket is so great. And then the one year we went, I got you that vest. That is a limited-time wear,

[00:22:15] but that's also great. I'm switching my style, I think, into more of a horse-showy vibe,

[00:22:24] switching the jeans, getting out of the skinny jean vibe. Okay, I got, I feel like the last horse

[00:22:31] show we got some great, that one store we went to that we really liked, cleaned house at where we

[00:22:36] got the boots. If you go full horse-show drip, are you going to go super starched jeans? No,

[00:22:45] I have to be a little punk. Cowboy punk. But no one starches their jeans anymore, so you

[00:22:55] would stand out, but it's like the crease, and it looks great, it's just what I want to represent

[00:23:01] whenever I go to the horse show, a little punk, you know, not, I don't want to be a little punk.

[00:23:06] So what is horse-show punk, like black nails? No, I feel like maybe it's horse show Europe,

[00:23:16] horse show Europe, like Europe, like Banana Republic is my jam, like anything old, old,

[00:23:24] I guess that's what I mean by horse show, like paper boy hats, give me some Henleys, give me some

[00:23:30] boot-cut jeans. So I would say that's just like a put-together type of look. I feel like horse show,

[00:23:38] to me, because of the types of horse shows that I go to, is like you're wearing a cowboy hat and

[00:23:45] starch jeans and square-toed boots, and you think more along the lines of Hollywood-went-horse-show,

[00:23:54] like a European GQ horse show, European cowboy old money. Old money was the word I was looking for,

[00:24:05] old money cowboy, those reels all the time, that's why I love Banana Republic.

[00:24:10] So I've only watched a couple episodes of that Dutton Ranch show, like the new Yellowstone

[00:24:14] spin-off, but there is a lady now, she's the villain, the old lady, she's the villain,

[00:24:18] she looks great, but I aspire, like her drip, she always has a big old squash blossom,

[00:24:25] a Gucci jacket, she looks like she's in horse show drip all the time. They are, yes,

[00:24:31] they're big horse people, that is horse show. I feel like I've seen it all through YouTube Shorts,

[00:24:38] but I am picking up a lot, they're actually doing the thing, they're doing horse show stuff, they

[00:24:43] do, from what I've understood, reining, and all of a sudden, which by the way, never mind, we'll come

[00:24:51] back to that in a private manner. Okay, old money cowboy. I think that lady has the craziest rig,

[00:25:00] I love the gloves, I knew a lady like that one time. I don't aspire to be like an old lady who

[00:25:10] is very subdued, like an old hen, no, I want a, I don't want a quiet style, I want to be like,

[00:25:22] you can't see my fingers because of the turquoise, I want my gray hair to be down to my waist, you

[00:25:29] know what I'm saying, we're going gaudy, that's me, I'm not there yet, we're very small right now,

[00:25:39] but you've got, I feel like 30 years, I feel like you can't really get there, we've got to build to

[00:25:46] that. At what age does gaudy start being like your 50s? I was going to say like 45, because if you

[00:25:56] went super gaudy now it'd be more of an eyesore. Once you hit, though, I love her, it's like, oh,

[00:26:04] she's doing it, she don't care, there's a certain standard of meeting with everybody else up to

[00:26:14] that point. I already feel like I don't really care about current fashion trends, I just kind

[00:26:20] of wear whatever I want, but I cared a lot more in high school, and of course everybody can say this,

[00:26:25] but I feel like I look back and I wore a uniform my whole life, and so when I went to college I

[00:26:33] did not know how to dress whatsoever. I feel like I'm team uniform though, it was amazing, I would

[00:26:40] wear Nike shorts and a t-shirt and drive to school every day, and I would literally just put my skirt

[00:26:45] on and my polo over what I was wearing, and then I didn't have to think about it. I would love that,

[00:26:52] it was amazing. I will say I very much enjoyed that. But then I got to college and was like,

[00:26:56] oh, my out-of-school clothing involves Bermuda shorts from Tractor Supply and some shirts

[00:27:05] that just were not of the times. And my college roommate, bless her, Ashley, was like, hey, let's

[00:27:15] go to Target and just do a little revamp. And then I went full Target, then I was like, I am Target,

[00:27:24] because they had all the, which is not a bad thing, they had all the cold-shoulder shirts. What

[00:27:30] year would that have been, 2014, 2015? I was full 2015, always skinny jeans with my fringe boots,

[00:27:39] and these huge infinity scarves, and the statement necklaces. Oh my god, bring it back, I loved it.

[00:27:46] Were you a Nike-shorts, t-shirt, big-shirt girl? Big shirt, Nike shorts, tube socks that were like,

[00:27:54] I don't know what they're called, with tennis shoes or Birkenstocks. I remember the Nike shorts

[00:28:03] there. I did go through a phase, I've never been cool in my life, like part of the cool crowd in my

[00:28:09] life, except for about a year in college. I fit in for about a year. Shouldn't have done that.

[00:28:18] And then they kicked, and then, is that why you stopped fitting in, because you weren't allowed

[00:28:27] back? He's bringing up that I was kicked out of college. Because it took me about a year to

[00:28:36] settle in, sophomore year, cool girl, they still didn't like me because I wouldn't drink and stuff,

[00:28:41] but as far as the fits, the aesthetics, yeah, you looked the part, I did. I was that kid

[00:28:50] that never wore shorts in school, never, I got made fun of for my hairless legs one time when

[00:28:56] I was in like the third grade, by Alli Murphy, I believe her name was, and never forgot about it,

[00:29:02] I hope she's in the comments. Well, she knows how she's affected you. It altered my whole life,

[00:29:09] I started reading magazines about hair care, that's where it all started for me.

[00:29:15] You know what's funny, would you describe me as like a quiet person? In what way? No,

[00:29:28] I don't think so, because that's how I was perceived in middle school and high school,

[00:29:34] in what way, I mean, if you laughed really hard and belly-laughed at something, I think it was

[00:29:42] Grant Mason made fun of me so hard that that was it, that was it, but also there were a lot of

[00:29:52] things I deserve to be made fun of for. One thing that I was like, in my head I'm like, I knew I

[00:30:00] wasn't a quiet person, and I knew that I was like, you're probably a quiet person in a strange group,

[00:30:06] in a new group maybe, but I don't know, so maybe more 10 years ago than now. And I just knew that

[00:30:13] I wasn't that person, and so one day it clicked, I was in a home ec class or something, and someone

[00:30:18] referred to how quiet I was, and they were like, well, no, you're a quiet person, and I was like,

[00:30:29] oh, that's how I'm perceived here. Same era as when you were writing a lot. Oh, junior year,

[00:30:39] yeah, that kicked up. And I'm just imagining like you get made fun of really hard, and then

[00:30:45] you become this quiet person, but you also have this struggling inner monologue, you know you're

[00:30:50] masking, I've always been the person I really am, it's got to come out somehow. No, because

[00:30:57] the things that I was writing, nothing about, the Demon Lord, man, got to express myself somehow. I

[00:31:16] want you to know I want to clear the air that I am never making fun of you whenever I bring this up,

[00:31:22] because I think it is one of your more respectable lore facts, and I wish, is something that you

[00:31:31] write, I don't think that it's over, I think that there are still pages being written,

[00:31:37] and the open arms to D&D is that's the side I want to tap into, it's like the off-camera side,

[00:31:44] is what not, we're not going to get into what I read to you, but there is a little snippet in

[00:31:50] the last horse show video where it shows me out in the open, why we were doing it so publicly I don't

[00:31:55] know, for the adrenaline rush, I was reading an excerpt from a story that I had written,

[00:32:02] and I chose a very steamy scene to read to them, and it was great. I wish there was footage of you,

[00:32:15] because you were on your knees like this as I was reading. It was spicy, and I would say something,

[00:32:24] he'd go, there's a reason why we can't do that in D&D, she's like, all right, well I'm going

[00:32:29] to roll to do this. That was that era, I was writing that story at that time, and I did have

[00:32:42] some girlfriends that I think were also considered quiet, I think they were also in that niche,

[00:32:48] and they would read it chapter by chapter in the mornings, and I don't think they were the crowd

[00:32:53] for that book, but bless them for supporting, did you ask them, will you read my new chapter,

[00:33:02] well then they got, they were like, let me read it, but then, I went to a church of Christ school,

[00:33:06] and it was very, some kids were wild, but some kids were just very straight and narrow, and I

[00:33:19] was definitely with the straight and narrow crowd, still am, I think I still am. But my book was,

[00:33:30] your expressive outlet took the reader to places they just had never imagined. I don't know how we

[00:33:38] got here, let's get off this, talking about, what you were known for, no one else knew that though,

[00:33:44] it was just my little, I was in, talking about school stuff, and I have envy for people that

[00:33:49] can just have that about themselves and still have their character, I feel like you two have

[00:33:58] characters that you don't ever sway from. You can be Nathan Perry and decide to go on a diet or quit

[00:34:05] coffee or whatever, you can be Katie Van Slyke and still have some secret smut thing or whatever,

[00:34:11] but for me, if I decided I was going to write smut, it would change my whole, I would change the

[00:34:16] way I dressed, I would change the way I operated my day, I have to do a full character swap,

[00:34:22] and if I'm going to be a camera guy, I'm going to have to start dressing like a camera guy,

[00:34:25] start doing vibes and things with a camera guy, like what do they say, what do they do,

[00:34:30] that's my thing, that's my curse, I haven't known my original self probably since the sixth grade.

[00:34:35] Wow, we're really deep diving here, we're getting to know Matthew Austin Turpin. Nobody, I don't

[00:34:43] know myself anymore, I think that's the point that we're getting at. And we can explore this, maybe

[00:34:48] that's why you like D&D, you get to be whoever you want, it's a break from the ever-impending

[00:34:54] crushing weight of not realizing who I am, it's like, okay, I don't have to be anymore.

[00:35:02] So, Nate, you looked like you had a school story. I got known for, somehow, and I don't know how big

[00:35:12] the circle was, sleeping in jeans, it just became a thing that people would, you sleep in jeans

[00:35:24] sounds like an insult, it does, maybe it was, you sleep in jeans, but I did, it sounds like I did

[00:35:32] sleep in jeans, like an inside joke where they're saying something else to you, but they're like,

[00:35:39] oh, you sleep in jeans, but they're really saying something worse. You'd go over to a buddy's house,

[00:35:45] stay the night, and I would just fall asleep, but I wouldn't put on nighttime clothes or anything,

[00:35:53] so I would just sleep, and they'd be like, you slept in your jeans? I used to sleep in jeans

[00:35:57] when I was skinny and it didn't hurt, and I was like, yeah, and then it just became a thing of,

[00:36:03] I don't know how you do it, sleeping in jeans, it just became a thing that I was sleeping in jeans,

[00:36:10] teenager vernacular, I don't know. Hey, I can see it. It's like, it was always such

[00:36:19] a different world going over to somebody's house in school, it's just like, you feel like your way

[00:36:27] of operating and living is universal, and then you go to other people's houses, they're all so

[00:36:35] different, their bare minimum rules are hilarious, I hate it, I hate it now more than ever, I'm

[00:36:43] regressing. I was definitely the house that was like, want to come over here? My mom said that you

[00:36:48] could sleep over here, but I can't come to your house. As an adult I completely understand, but

[00:36:56] I didn't want to go to a lot of people's houses, I was ashamed, I wasn't ashamed of my parents,

[00:37:01] but I didn't want them to think my dad was weird. My dad was weird, he's that guy that would come

[00:37:06] up while everybody's hanging out on the couch and just stand there and look at the couch, what are

[00:37:10] y'all doing, dad, or just stand there. I feel like there's not a whole lot more awkward than when you

[00:37:19] go over to a friend's house and then they have to go do something, and then somehow you're there by

[00:37:24] yourself. One thing will raise that, and I hate to be the guy to one-up there, but the only thing

[00:37:35] worse than that is being over at somebody's house, and he starts, like, shut up mom, and you're like,

[00:37:44] dude, all the time, I had a buddy growing up, all the time I stayed at his house, and dude,

[00:37:49] him and his parents would just, and I was like, for sure, you and I have the same kind of,

[00:37:55] I'm not more worldly, but I have just certainly seen more things, and at that time I thought my

[00:38:03] mom was going to hear that and come over here and beat me just for being in association with it. But

[00:38:10] we'd always go down there and play or whatever, and his mom would come down and say something, and

[00:38:13] he would just immediately, bam, like, you always do this crap, and it's just, and then she'd start

[00:38:18] yelling, and the dad would start yelling, and all you can do is just sit there with your hands like,

[00:38:22] maybe I don't care to eat dinner right now, like, we can play, we can play PlayStation later,

[00:38:27] no dude, you came all the way over, and then, Matt came over here to do this, I have friends,

[00:38:34] it's really fine, I can, like, nobody's, sit down, we are playing the game, that's the only

[00:38:40] thing that works. You feel like, oh, I'm thirsty, I'm going to go, you go open the fridge, you're

[00:38:47] like, I'm stealing. Oh, yeah, for sure. I never thought of it that way, if I'm in somebody else's

[00:38:56] house by myself, no, can I go to the bathroom, I got to ask to, can I get a glass of water, I'm

[00:39:01] going to go sit in a chair and I'm just going to, they've gotten past that since coming to my house.

[00:39:06] Well, I've been at your house collectively more than I've stayed at any friend's house ever in

[00:39:12] my life, and labels were put on things that said community, which was a big help, which is true.

[00:39:20] There's one on the fridge, there's just a fridge, but somehow the Fijis are never in that fridge,

[00:39:26] they are never in that fridge, I never drink Fiji water by the way, Icelandic is the new move.

[00:39:31] So, we kind of got off on tangents again, as we always do, but I did say at the very

[00:39:36] beginning that we were going to basically just do an overview of what's going on and what's

[00:39:41] to come. So, the last week or two there's been a lot happening, just horsey things,

[00:39:49] we got that new horse, which I think the day that we're filming this it went up on YouTube,

[00:39:54] so if you haven't watched it, go watch. There are new horses galore at both the mini farm and

[00:39:58] the big barn, and they've just been settling in, the heat, we just got back from the horse show,

[00:40:08] and this is the time of year where it's becoming not the lull, it used to be a real lull, I know,

[00:40:18] boy, it used to be a lull, it used to be a real lull, and we just don't have that anymore. So

[00:40:23] yesterday was the first day that I started kind of clamoring for things to do, because it was so hot.

[00:40:31] So I started doing the ASMR crunches, you know how we said in the last video, y'all hate the dove

[00:40:38] hunt video, y'all hate our ASMR videos, but I was like, okay, we haven't done one in a long time,

[00:40:47] what if I don't whisper, I think people hate me whispering, but we do, this is the text message

[00:40:54] that you ignored last night. I was like, what if we do just a few different treats, a few different

[00:41:03] animals, and do crunches, and do a video just of different treats and how they sound and whatever.

[00:41:10] It works for other people, other people like doing ASMR things, why doesn't it work for us?

[00:41:17] I think ASMR is something that especially has its own niches within its niche, certain people love

[00:41:26] that but hate that, oh, we just lost so many people with that. Different, maybe people hate

[00:41:34] whispering but love crunches, a video yesterday with carrot crunches, and I made it kind of like

[00:41:40] a little competition between horses. That's the thing, sometimes there's so much going

[00:41:43] on in a day I don't have to think, we're just filming what's going on, and we have 16 videos,

[00:41:48] there's been a long stint the last couple months where I'm posting 14 to 16 videos a day, it's just

[00:41:55] freaking crazy. But yesterday I was like, it took a lot to get to 11, which is still alive,

[00:42:04] but I had to kind of think and be like, what can we do, it's too hot to do anything, and the

[00:42:11] animals aren't naturally doing anything because it's freaking hot, so what do we do? And so that's

[00:42:15] what I thought of, I was like, well, we could do like a YouTube version of that, living in here for

[00:42:22] days like that, start getting deep with, with who, the people, just hit record and just let it out.

[00:42:32] Now, here's Katching Up With Katie. This is what I've been struggling with this week,

[00:42:36] this is what's really been hard for me. I still want to do the therapy session. Yeah,

[00:42:41] I want to do a finger paint. No, no, no, no, no, I had the idea, remember, of therapy,

[00:42:47] it's like a group therapy podcast, and I don't, I just think everyone's going to get their feelings

[00:42:52] hurt. Why? They said no. I'm just staring at you, and it depends on the therapy, get your

[00:43:02] feelings hurt. I don't think, in that, what is therapy, not in that context, be childhood trauma,

[00:43:07] or is it what we all hate about each other? I guess anyone could put down certain things, and we

[00:43:15] just draw from a hat and read it, it's like, this is, and everybody else gets like self-improvement,

[00:43:20] I'm the only one who gets, why don't I like my dad. No, it's like you would have a list of things

[00:43:25] that you'll never talk about, like, I don't want to talk about this, so this will just never be

[00:43:31] brought up, everything else fair game, and then we have an actual therapist come in, and we just

[00:43:37] start yapping. That needs to be incorporated with the sip and ride, that way we can get a little

[00:43:41] alcohol in there and loosen the lips a little bit better. So we have a little inside joke,

[00:43:49] a little trip joke, I would say, where, it's real, when we go to dinner and start gabbing, and we

[00:43:58] start getting a little giggly and a little whatever, none of us drink hardly at all,

[00:44:07] and so when we go to a nice dinner or something, out of town, I'll get a little glass of wine,

[00:44:12] whatever, and our joke is like, now I'm a half glass in, and it justifies anything we say,

[00:44:22] it's like, listen, before I say this, you need to know I'm a half glass in, but I just don't think,

[00:44:30] and we're being truthful, it's only a half glass. And yet we're like, yeah, all hold, or all that's

[00:44:37] one that I've struggled with for my whole life, no holds barred, when have I ever heard that said

[00:44:46] in my life, I've never heard that, I thought you were trying to say, is that the saying,

[00:44:50] like we are, like that's like when you're letting it all, hey, everything's on the table, no holds,

[00:44:55] all bets are off, is all bets are no holds barred, right? I've never heard that, no, now I'm saying

[00:44:59] it wrong. I think I know what you're, but I wanted, yeah, that's just always confused me,

[00:45:05] like no holding back, but it's like no hold it, you know what I'm, y'all know what I'm saying,

[00:45:12] no holds barred. No, I'm actually not going to look it up, I'm going to let them tell us, I've

[00:45:16] never heard that, but it's true, and I don't know what it means, so somebody could explain that to

[00:45:20] me. You're on to something though, I know you are. But with that being said, we don't hold any, what

[00:45:29] is, I don't know, we don't hold any punches, we don't pull any punches, pull any punches, we get

[00:45:35] a little loose with the lips with a little quarter to half glass. Especially, I mean, sometimes he

[00:45:43] goes espresso martini, a little nightcap if you will. Have you even had a drink in the last, yes,

[00:45:52] I had a cold beer last night, yeah, you did get a, you got a, because Rachel was making, she calls

[00:45:58] them palomas, yeah, we did have a paloma, that was our caviar pairing, dude, because in Kentucky, it

[00:46:08] was just, some of those days were rough and rainy and wet, it was rainy, wet, gross, long, and so at

[00:46:16] night Rachel was making these little fruity paloma drinks, so it's so funny, because we're drinking,

[00:46:23] but everyone has one little tiny drink. I did just get a nice Japanese whiskey, a Japanese dry sake,

[00:46:35] not sure what that is, but it's pretty good. I've just never in my house, I've just never been a

[00:46:41] drinker, I didn't do it in college. The one time my friend Dani was a horrible influence on me, we

[00:46:49] were on a trip, and that was the worst night of my life, because she's like, here, try this, this one

[00:46:58] has rum in it, here try this, this one has vodka in it, here, this is wine, and I'm just like,

[00:47:04] okay, and I think I was like 20, and because we were, it was legal, we were in the Bahamas, and I

[00:47:14] told my parents I had food poisoning. I don't know if they believe me or not, probably not. It's just

[00:47:22] what I think about as a father now, I think back on scenarios that I think I got away with, and now

[00:47:30] I know they would have known. But again, straight and narrow kid. I told my mom, not that I've been

[00:47:44] a wild kid or anything, but I told her a bunch of stuff the other day, and she was like, so I

[00:47:50] don't know, maybe you did, I don't know. But yeah, we're not a really wild bunch, no bed by 10 kind

[00:47:59] of folks, no, we're late bed-goers, we're just not wild. I certainly am at home, I'm less so on trips

[00:48:08] though. Well, we're usually getting up early, and as soon as one or two people start turning it in,

[00:48:14] the vibe off, I'll go get cozy and I'm ready for a little hangout sesh, and then in Kentucky,

[00:48:24] Stephanie and Rachel kept Irish-goodbying and just going to bed without telling anybody, and then I'd

[00:48:29] be sitting in the living room. I'm also trying to learn the balance of, you got a seven-day horse

[00:48:38] show, if you don't want to hate everybody, 100 percent the first three, and this is,

[00:48:43] I've been to like five or six horse shows at this point, and I'm figuring out the ratio, you get 100

[00:48:51] percent the first three days, we're going to stay up all night, we're going to hang out, we're going

[00:48:54] to play games, we're going to play Monopoly, all the way to 4:00 a.m., because by the fourth day,

[00:49:00] after we're done hitting record, it's just like, don't talk to me, I want to go to my room and

[00:49:04] not see anybody, because I just needed a minute. Last time I felt like there was a good balance,

[00:49:12] and so the whole time I felt pretty good, and I'm hoping at NSBA World in Tulsa, because there are

[00:49:20] lots of different areas at that house, because I got a house big enough for my parents to come

[00:49:24] for a couple days, and everyone to kind of have a good bedroom, no one's having to share bedrooms,

[00:49:29] that kind of deal. So I think there's enough space for everyone to go have some time, you know what

[00:49:38] I'm saying. I don't think that applies to us. What, do we have the bunk beds? I think you'll

[00:49:43] have the basement, that's okay, I'll get a hotel. The basement's huge, it has its own kitchen,

[00:49:48] but it has, that's another thing we're going to start doing at these horse shows, although I love

[00:49:53] the one thing I love about going somewhere, is experiencing food from that place. Go to Oklahoma

[00:49:59] City, Tulsa, great food. But we have got to start cooking more in these places. No. Yes we do, I

[00:50:07] volunteer as tribute because I enjoy it, sure, but we're working, not all the time, most of the time,

[00:50:14] maybe we can, well, maybe we can film a chef spot with Matt. No, I don't want to anymore, my thing

[00:50:21] is taking my suit off. What day do we have time to go to the grocery store and then cook? It's

[00:50:28] all right, it was a dumb idea. Yeah, I think we have bunks, but they're like the queen-size bunks,

[00:50:35] yeah, they're queen beds. I forgot, you'll have the basement, I'll have a hotel, but I'll be there

[00:50:42] in the morning for sure, I picked this up seven times, like pretending to drink out of it, and

[00:50:48] there's nothing in it. Shut up, you will be fine, because it has the whole outdoor patio section,

[00:50:54] the giant pool, that's where I'll sleep, is in the pool. I think there's like five bathrooms in this

[00:51:02] house, it's huge, it is a really big house, you'll be fine. Do they have a pool table? I don't know,

[00:51:10] there was a pool table at the one in Florida, and no one used it, because we use those every time,

[00:51:14] there's been a pool table so many times and we did not use it. The only thing that I

[00:51:18] used a lot was the golf sim, it was in a totally different building, I never went and looked at it,

[00:51:24] I use that a lot, a dart board would go a long way, never mind, you dart, never mind.

[00:51:30] She always has some stuff like, are you really into horse too? Oh yeah, she's like, I don't,

[00:51:42] I'll play, and then beats you to death, oh my gosh, what do you do with it? No, I'm not over

[00:51:53] here pulling 360s on me and stuff, no, with horse I'm just smarter, I don't try to go do hard stuff,

[00:52:02] I try to do the painstakingly easy stuff, and everyone misses them, I don't know why, you

[00:52:08] get right up there to the goal, I've perfected it, but nobody else practices that, nobody else knows

[00:52:15] how to do that, it's too easy, it's too easy, that's how I do that. But with darts and stuff,

[00:52:25] we had a run, we had about a three-year run in the dart scene. That's longer than ping pong. I'm also

[00:52:35] good at ping pong, if you weren't here I'd be like a really good ping-pong person, it's like we just

[00:52:41] for some reason capture all of these ping-pong people, everybody has a ping-pong person in their

[00:52:50] friend group, for some reason all of those people from those friend groups flock here for events,

[00:52:56] and we have these really good ping-pongers all in one place. I am self-conscious, if we're talking

[00:53:02] about it, with how I throw a dart, it is one of the things that I am self-conscious about,

[00:53:11] I've been made fun of many times for how I throw darts. Silly, yeah, I mean, that would be enough

[00:53:16] for me, I don't actually know how to do it. So we don't play with the little plastic ones,

[00:53:23] we have metal-tipped ones, and so I was actually thinking about it, my elbow was hurting yesterday,

[00:53:29] and I actually thought, I wonder if it's from all those years, because I'm not joking you,

[00:53:35] I met Jonathan when I was 20, and I would say two and a half years, the first two and a half

[00:53:44] years of us dating at his nasty little boy house that he lived in with three other boys, they had

[00:53:51] a dart board, and that's all we did. And then at the local bar, which is no longer in existence,

[00:53:57] but back in the day we frequented there all the time, and Jonathan was like a dart shark, it was

[00:54:05] awesome. And so we would play all the time, we'd play pairs, but I don't know how I had the time to

[00:54:12] spend so much time on darts. But I feel like that would be a great movie, there's a guy, he kind of

[00:54:18] has a dingy room with his roommates or whatever, and he goes over and he's always throwing darts,

[00:54:25] and then he's dating this girl, and she comes over and she throws it, and he's like, you're pretty

[00:54:32] good, so then she starts going, and then time progresses, she's making a run at nationals, and

[00:54:39] it's just this big epic darts movie. I would watch that. Jonathan, I don't know how he's so good at

[00:54:47] the stupid little hand-eye coordination games like ping pong, like darts, I'm like, how are you

[00:54:54] so gifted at this, kind of stupid stuff, you know what I'm saying? But then, by default, beer pong,

[00:55:03] oh my gosh, we played so much beer pong, it's not even funny. And mind you, it's fun just to play

[00:55:08] in college, I didn't drink ever at all, you had the advantage. Well, my sorority, because at one

[00:55:18] point I got kicked out, and then they let me come back for a semester, I took a little, didn't go

[00:55:21] to class, literally just did sorority stuff, and then I got kicked out again. Well, in that time

[00:55:27] period I had started dating Jonathan, and he was this 23-year-old man going to my sorority stuff,

[00:55:33] and we had this thing we called Joe, which was a jean social, so you had to wear all blue jean.

[00:55:40] I had found blue jean heels, I was wearing overalls with a small shirt underneath, and

[00:55:49] everyone was just in blue jean, and we had a beer pong tournament where they had this huge bracket

[00:56:03] made up, and because they all knew that I didn't drink and didn't really party that much, they

[00:56:14] put me as this last rank, but they didn't know who my boyfriend was, and so we started at the bottom,

[00:56:26] won it, won the whole thing, there were 72 teams. Golly. I'm just imagining it was an upset,

[00:56:38] everyone who lost was like, he's 23, he had a full beard, he's just this man in the middle of these

[00:56:46] children, some of them are there by themselves, they set the bracket, and it's like slow motion,

[00:56:50] Jonathan's walking up, and he's a big guy, in his cowboy boots he's like 6'3, taller than that in

[00:56:59] cowboy boots, but he had a full beard, was tall, some of these kids, the freshmen coming in, were

[00:57:12] like 18. The difference between an 18-year-old and a 23-year-old, astounding, especially nowadays,

[00:57:20] and so not so much even in the girls, but in the boys versus the man. And it was hilarious, he was

[00:57:28] like, I don't like this, he's like, I don't want to be here, he did not. And so we just whooped

[00:57:37] everybody, and it was so funny, and there was like a traveling trophy, and they were like, how do you

[00:57:42] have this, and I think it was a superlative one year, they were like, most likely to, Katie Van Slyke,

[00:57:56] at a beer pong tournament, you got a title card named after you. Yeah, that's the whole, other

[00:58:04] life, what I got, one day in my yearbook, I got something for my senior yearbook, most something,

[00:58:12] but I don't remember what. My whole high school labeled me in the fact they were like, most likely

[00:58:19] to horse, and I was just labeled horse, what stupid, my graduation, mind you, they called

[00:58:27] me out as Katherine Elizabeth, that's not my name, my school just trolled me constantly. Your middle

[00:58:33] name is Abigail, it is, and so Elizabeth, that's just generic, that's the joke, and so they called

[00:58:42] me out as Katherine Elizabeth, I'm in my yearbook as Katherine Elizabeth, wow, and my senior one,

[00:58:50] with the black dress and the big one, Katherine Elizabeth, so they just trolled me. So everybody

[00:58:56] else, they did it this year, I don't think they did it again after this, but there were only

[00:59:02] 120 of us graduating, and so every single time someone came up on the stage, they would say three

[00:59:08] adjectives about this person. Oh no. So they would always do this, this is the nightmare, they were

[00:59:16] all like, I honestly can't even think, because I'm just thinking about what they said about me. They

[00:59:24] were all adjectives, and I'm the only one that got a noun. They were all adjectives, and then,

[00:59:33] I think mine were some copout BS ones, like kind, whatever, and then it was like, equestrian. That's

[00:59:43] an adjective. Horse girl, horse. Literally, they're like, we don't know about this,

[00:59:53] we don't know anything about you. The horse, of course. We don't even know your name, there's 120

[01:00:03] kids. This isn't a, that's correct, thousand-kid high school. Wow, didn't know the name.

[01:00:10] Well, I think I still failed at doing a catch-up, everybody sees the TikToks, they see the videos,

[01:00:20] I want to know about you and your, that's how Lily says soup. I love that. Okay,

[01:00:32] well, hope y'all enjoyed, I don't know how this is going to come out looking.

[01:00:36] 100 percent great. Good luck, good luck, and we will see y'all in the next one.