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Paul: If I got into your system, if I
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for your account system or your CRM or
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and just stayed quiet, how long could
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a purchase.

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You make a sale.

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high and interesting level.

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How much money would I need to
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flow and bring down your business?

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Now I've seen massive companies lose
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I've seen family run businesses that
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And the stupid part is if those companies
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and multi factor authentication,
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Becca: I'm Becca Pountney,
wedding business marketing expert,

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speaker and blogger, and you're
listening to the Wedding Pros

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Who Are Ready To Grow podcast.

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I'm here to share with you actionable
tips, strategies and real life

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examples to help you take your
wedding business to the next level.

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If you are an ambitious wedding business
owner that wants to take your passion

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and use it to build a profitable,
sustainable business, doing what you

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love, then you're in the right place.

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Let's get going with today's episode.

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It's August and I hope the sun is shining
wherever you're listening to this.

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This summer, I'm bringing you a
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I'm bringing out some of the amazing
training inside of my members lounge.

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I'm putting it on the
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We're going through the archives and
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to help move your business forward.

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Now, today we're taking something
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Of the wedding pro success ladder, which
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Now the get organized section
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from finance to pension advice.

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And today we're going to be talking
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online with a fabulous Paul Newton.

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Now, Paul does do some magic tricks
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the Wedding Pro Members Lounge, go
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see the tricks live as well as the Q&
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Grow section of the Success Ladder.

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The Grow section is particularly
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between 10, 000 and 25, 000 per year.

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important for every single one of you.

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So enjoy today's session.

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with Paul.

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It was recorded in December 2022.

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Now this morning, as I said,
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about protecting ourselves online.

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This is incredibly important as more and
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It's becoming more important
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ourselves from the hackers.

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Even last week, I sat down at a breakfast
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people who had both lost their Instagram
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That feeling when you've lost something
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We're going to be talking about making
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protecting our businesses on line.

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So be lovely to this morning's
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friend of me and the group.

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He's on the podcast with Jesse,
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is for Jesse here in the group.

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Some of you have listened to me
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So this morning, my fabulous guest,
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Morning!

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Good morning, Paul.

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Why don't you start by just telling people
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Paul: Where I am, I'm in the
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that has turned into my office.

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I'm, I'm Paul Newton.

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I'm a magician and a mind reader,
but I specialize in stealing pin

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numbers, passwords, usernames,
your mother's maiden name.

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You know, all the boring stuff like that.

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I use mind reading techniques to
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Nmind reading techniques
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Number one, I find it quite funny.

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Number two, if I can do this while
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do it, imagine what the scammers
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That's what mental theft is all about and
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Becca: Amazing.

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Well, I might get off the camera
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mind and reading all of my passwords.

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Paul: Becca, you've already
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It's too late for you.

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Becca: It's too late.

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You know all of my, you know,
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Well, be nice to Paul this morning.

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He's going to be sharing with you.

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Let him know how, what you're thinking.

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to take any questions and make
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So Paul, I'm going to hand over to you.

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Paul: Awesome.

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First of all, can I just say,
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I know when you open up your own community
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and give somebody else free reign
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So the fact that she's lit
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living, come on to her channel.

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Thank you so much, Becca.

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Jesse, who's known in this group as well.

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So if this goes completely wrong,
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Now, as I just said, while Becca was
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The company is Mental Theft
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I do this around the world.

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I do it online.

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I do talks all over the place because
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the amount of businesses there are
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Now I'm going to scare you today.

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I'm going to do a couple of things
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But mostly here's the big,
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If you are not using a password
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in your business, I can attack you
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I can break most of your systems.

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Okay, please, if the only thing you
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and use a password manager, go and
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then I've done my job, okay?

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It won't cost you a penny.

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You can go and get that stuff for free.

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You can get better ones for a
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If you don't know where
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If I scare you too much, ask Jesse.

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We don't mind.

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We will give this information to
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So there you go.

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You can go now.

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That's, that's the sensible bit done.

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But how about I tell you why
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DC Dan, I completely agree.

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LastPass is a very good one.

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LastPass is one of the one, the companies
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a lot of money back into the system.

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back into into research, into information.

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They keep bolstering their systems
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And if you go to LastPass, I
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protection of up to five members of
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So you can have a look.

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I'm not affiliated to them.

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They do not pay me for saying that
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I don't know.

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But seriously, LastPass is
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I completely agree with you, mate.

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Do you use that already?

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And if you do, let me know what
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Now, how did Paul Newton, a wedding
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giving talks all around the world?

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I love doing what I do.

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I love doing magic tricks.

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I love messing about for a living
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I was at a military gig and I
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I'm doing some closeup magic.

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There was six people there, three
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their finery, all of them had medals on
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in to help them let their hair down a
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the kind of stuff, card tricks and
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band stuff and things like that.

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Now, I normally use a harsher word than
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British, and you lot seem too nice.

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He was just heckling and rude
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He was doing the things where,
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possible, you know it's all a lie.

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I remember thinking to myself, you are
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So while I'm at the table, I
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I stole from him his pin number for
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computer, his password for his computer,
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of the first pet dog he had, and the
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You know, unimportant stuff
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So when I nicked all this stuff, I
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At the end of my time at the table,
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one of you has a git, and I'm gonna
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you just have a look at the back of
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Now this guy, turned the card over,
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went white, his jaw dropped, and,
and, and he swore at me quite a lot.

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I said to him, don't tell people
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but could you tell them the type
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I then said, could you tell everyone
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He swore at me again, and he said
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Now this is using very old school
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that I love and I use a lot.

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This military officer could not
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of this information off of him.

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The people at the table were shocked.

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I then said, Right, ladies and gents,
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otherwise I'm going to get fired
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six people the whole evening, when
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I got about ten metres
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I was now in full on pick where
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I'm sure loads of you have
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Where are we going?

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This guy ran up behind me and he
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said, I need to have a word with you.

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Now there was, there was an air of fear.

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There was an air of, I need to
take control again from his voice.

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But the thing that freaked me out
the most is I'm quite a big lad and

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spinning me around on the spot is
not an easy thing to do, but he did.

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It was at that moment that my brain
suddenly went, I'm in the middle

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of 400 people from the military.

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They're all probably armecontrol
again from his voice.'s about to

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kick off a fight with me because
I've scared the life out of him.

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He then said something that,
that will sit with me forever.

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He looked me dead in the eye and
he said his mind reading real.

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Now, if I ever get a kid come up to me and
ask me if Santa's real, the answer's yes.

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If I ever get a child come up to
me and ask if the Tooth Fairy's

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real, the answer is always yes.

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But when a military officer asks
you if mind reading is real and

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possible, it's a little bit different.

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I remember thinking to myself, in my West
London way, right, I'm you, so I did.

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I said to him, I'm gonna ask you three
questions and I need you to answer those

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three questions completely honestly.

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He said, yeah, okay.

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Question one.

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Could I have got anyone
onto the base with me?

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and they're finding out bits of
information for me and they're

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feeding it to me in a little
earpiece or something like that.

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This guy then actually checked my ears
to make sure I didn't have an earpiece

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in and then he said no there's no way
anyone else would have come in with you

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because we check you at the gate, we
check your car, we check your passport,

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you're driving, we check everything
about you before you're allowed on base.

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There is no way you could
have got a second person in.

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Perfect.

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Thank you.

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Question two.

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Would anyone at your table have
given me that information to help

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me, an unknown magician, rather
than help you and your security?

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Again, he said no.

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There's just no way.

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I trust those people with
my life on a daily basis.

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They would not have helped you in this.

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I said, perfect, perfect.

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If you've answered honestly to those
two questions, my last question is this.

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How can mind reading not be possible?

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He went a bit whiter again, there was
more sweary words coming out of his

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mouth, and then he said something to
me that scared the life out of me.

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Now, if you, if you ever read
the book that I wrote, and with

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Jesse, by the way if you ever read
that, in the book we lied a bit.

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Okay?

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And I really, really do ask that
you don't share this part of the

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story anywhere outside of here,
because I could get in trouble.

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What he said to me was, if you can do
that to three select people in this room,

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you would have control of our missiles.

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Now in the book, I worded it as, he
said, if you can do that to small

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and medium businesses, imagine
what damage you could cause.

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Because let's be honest, I want to think
about me having control of missiles.

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I mean, I'm bad enough with fireworks.

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Imagine me with missiles.

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We don't need to do that.

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Now, that was a serious bit.

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That was a sensible bit, okay?

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And I want you guys honestly thinking
to yourself, if I got into your heads

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and stole your passwords and your
usernames, what could I be doing in your

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business before you even know I'm there?

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This is the game we're playing now.

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There are scammers and there are
hackers who are right now being

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backed by other countries to
attack small businesses in the UK.

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And in Europe,

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if I got into your system, if I knew
your username and your password for your

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account system or your CRM or anything
that's pivotal in your business and

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just stayed quiet, how long could I
sit in there until you make You make a

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purchase, you make a sale, you make a
something that means your bank account

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is of a very high and interesting level.

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How much money would I need to
steal from you to wipe out your cash

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flow and bring down your business?

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Now I've seen massive companies lose
everything by having 20 grand stolen.

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I've seen family run businesses that
have been going for 150 years get wiped

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out because they couldn't make payroll.

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And the stupid part is if those companies
had just used decent password managers

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and multi factor authentication,
they would have stopped those hacks.

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Now I did promise we'd have some fun.

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I did promise we'd mess about a bit.

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So not only am I going to tell
some stories, I'm also going

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to do a couple of magic tricks
because I still love magic tricks.

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So what we're going to do today,
and this is one of my favorites.

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I get two elastic bands.

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Okay, I'm going to make this as
blatant and I'm going to try and

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stay on camera as much as I can.

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I put one behind the other
like that, so we've now got two

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trapped elastic bands, okay?

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We check they're trapped by doing that.

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You will notice I'm doing everything
that I can to stay on the screen.

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Definitely one behind the other.

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I'll even check them twice because
people don't trust me very much.

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But when you rub them, one goes
straight through the other.

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I still love the magic stuff.

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What about a scam that's
going on right now?

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I'm going to talk to you
about a supplier scam.

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Now this one, you could be the supplier,
it could be a supplier coming to you.

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Do your clients know your payment process?

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Please do tell them when you're
engaging with a client, tell them

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your payment process and let them know
that if there's ever any changes to

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this, it will come directly from you.

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Cause that's the key.

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This is the scam that's going on.

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I've just warned you a minute
ago that if I got into your

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systems, what damage could I do?

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Now, if I'm in your accounting system,
if I wanted to, I could change the

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bank details on all of your invoices.

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And that's exactly what's happening
in the real world right now.

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So, here's the scam.

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This has happened a few times already.

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We attack a supply chain.

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We are after you or your suppliers.

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Okay, we are after you because if you
are doing a wedding for somebody and

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let's say it's a fairly high end wedding
and you're doing floristry and you're

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charging seven and a half grand for
doing this wedding day, okay, you haven't

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explained your payment process and you
haven't given over your bank details like

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I would normally advise everyone to do.

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I want you to give those face
to face so that the buyer knows

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exactly which details to trust

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When it comes to the point of invoicing,
if that invoice for seven and a half grand

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goes out and I can attack it, I'm going
to stop the invoice going, I change the

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bank details and send it to your client.

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Your client receives an email with a
PDF invoice that looks like it's fake.

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from you because I've
attacked your actual systems.

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I haven't bothered making
any phone calls to them.

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I haven't done anything that's
even using social engineering yet.

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All I've done is change details
on a PDF invoice from you to them.

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They receive the invoice and
they're really happy with you

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because you've done a great job.

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So why would they withhold payment?

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Why would they slow things
down for you when you've been

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awesome and they pay the invoice?

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Now, let's say you've got one week
that people are meant to pay you in.

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Okay.

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A week goes by and you're a
nice person, so you don't really

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want to nudge them too much.

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So maybe you leave it a few more days
before you do any kind of chasing.

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Then the first chase that you do is a
really nicely worded email saying, I

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know you guys are busy, I know things are
frantic at the moment, but I just want

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to check that you received my invoice.

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How do you feel if the response is,
Yeah, we received the invoice and we

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paid it on the day that you invoiced us.

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You had the money ten days ago.

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What happens in your head?

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All of a sudden they're saying
they've given you seven and a half

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grand and you're looking at your bank
account and you know it's not there.

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Now comes the worst bit.

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Whose fault is this?

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What kind of insurance have you got?

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Do you class that as a paid invoice
and you've still got to do the work?

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Are you not doing the work
because you haven't been paid?

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Can that customer now sue you?

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What happens with the PR?

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What happens with how your business
looks to all the potential customers

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out there when a bride or a groom
suddenly says, I paid them the invoice

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details and they're not doing the work?

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Seriously, this isn't about
seven and a half grand.

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This is about the repercussions
of getting hacked.

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If you'd lost seven and a half grand,
you would probably recover from it.

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I'd help you, Becca would help you, we'd
find ways for you to be okay and carry on.

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If, however, a story went viral
about how a bride and groom had

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paid your invoice, you then messaged
them and said you haven't been paid,

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does your insurance cover PR?

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Would your insurance company
help you get out of this?

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These are the horrible questions
that I ask people now, because for

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paying the 50 to a couple of hundred
pound for a decent insurance, I'd

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much prefer you guys to be covered.

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than to find out that you
lost your business because

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a hacker did their job well.

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Silly story time.

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So I get employed by people
now to hack their companies.

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Sometimes it will be the stereotypical
hacker on my team that just sits in their

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office and they, they hack from afar.

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A lot of the times though,
I do things differently.

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I normally hack physical buildings.

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I'll attack the building because
then I can bypass most of their

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online systems by being directly
plugged in to their systems.

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This amuses me even more.

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You get a lot of IT guys who don't
really protect against me doing things

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like that, and they think that we're
just going to go from the outside

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trying to get past their fireballs
and trying to get past their routers

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and trying to get past their systems.

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I don't do that.

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I very often just literally walk into
buildings, gain access to the physical

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kit, plug a Raspberry Pi computer into
it, and I have access through that.

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So, I got employed by a company.

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They're a very well

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company, that's all very well known
logistics company, that's they

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move stuff around the world a lot.

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They came to me and they asked me if I
could help, because people were getting

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a bit too relaxed about security.

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They were pretty sure there were
security rules that were not being

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followed, and they said to me,
Paul, can you come in and just see

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if you can steal anything of value?

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Now, whenever I take on a
contract, there's a couple of

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things I like to point out.

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Normally in contracts we'll have
three points, and I only win the game.

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If I hit one of those points
with this contract, point number

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one was gaining access to their
property without being noticed.

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Point number two was gaining access
to a building without being noticed.

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Point number three was
stealing something of value.

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Okay, now I say of value because to
me, value is very different things.

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It could be financial, it could be
valuable, it could be something I could

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steal and sell, or it could be data.

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Now my mind normally goes for
data, so I think a little bit

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differently to most things.

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We look at this company, we look at
all of their locations around the UK.

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Myself and a buddy pick which
location we're going for, and we do

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this from the strictly scientific
method of, it's the one that's

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furthest away from a police station.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Because even though I've got permission,
I still don't like being arrested.

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Okay.

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So we go to this location.

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We have a drive around this building.

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It's a big boring gray building.

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There's lots of windows, doors,
down one side, there's big shutter

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doors that trucks can reverse into.

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So fire exits and stuff down
the other side, nothing, just.

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Wall and windows on the back.

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Literally just window at the front.

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Nice entrance.

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Big barbed wire all around it.

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I mean, this barbed wire, it was,
I'd say it was about 10 foot high.

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And again, I'll point
out, I'm quite a big lad.

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I'm not climbing that fence.

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Okay.

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At the front, there's, there's
one way in and out for vehicles.

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Next to it is a security hut.

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Well, I say security hut,
it looked like a shed.

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With a guy that stood in it and
there's a faint glowing light in

462
00:23:52,304 --> 00:23:56,244
front of him that we took a guess at
was a monitor or a tv of some guy.

463
00:23:57,194 --> 00:23:57,694
Now we've gone

464
00:23:57,694 --> 00:23:58,524
round building.

465
00:23:59,379 --> 00:24:02,699
In front of the building there's a lay by
on the other side of the road, so we park

466
00:24:02,729 --> 00:24:05,729
there, turn the car off, turn the lights
off, and we're watching for a while.

467
00:24:06,809 --> 00:24:08,659
We're watching the
security guard in his shed.

468
00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:13,599
We got there about half 10 I believe,
and it was November ish, so it's

469
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:16,119
quite dark, and we watched this guy.

470
00:24:16,229 --> 00:24:17,209
Now it's got to about 1am.

471
00:24:18,879 --> 00:24:23,469
We've noted that every half hour on the
half hour, this guy goes for a walk.

472
00:24:24,019 --> 00:24:24,659
Very rich.

473
00:24:24,659 --> 00:24:29,079
I mean, literally I prefer to set
my watch by him than by my phone.

474
00:24:29,149 --> 00:24:29,599
Okay.

475
00:24:29,639 --> 00:24:32,699
And he was spot on the half hour mark.

476
00:24:32,729 --> 00:24:34,299
Every half hour he'd go for a walk.

477
00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:39,899
Now the walk would change between
10 minutes and 13 minutes each time.

478
00:24:40,329 --> 00:24:43,399
So we think he was just changing
where he walked and came back to.

479
00:24:44,099 --> 00:24:44,909
Absolutely fine.

480
00:24:44,949 --> 00:24:46,119
So we know that we've got.

481
00:24:46,544 --> 00:24:49,834
a 10 minute clear spot every
half hour on the half hour.

482
00:24:50,584 --> 00:24:55,724
My buddy, it's now about 1am I think
it comes up to the time that this

483
00:24:55,724 --> 00:24:59,324
guy's going for a walk and my buddy
looks at me and he says I'm bored.

484
00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:04,324
Now, if any of you meet any of my team,
one of them turning around and saying I'm

485
00:25:04,324 --> 00:25:08,354
bored, that normally means something is
about to kick off, something's about to

486
00:25:08,414 --> 00:25:15,154
happen, one of us is going to do something
that is going to impact the evening.

487
00:25:15,704 --> 00:25:17,044
So he looked at me and said, I'm bored.

488
00:25:17,344 --> 00:25:18,254
We're here already.

489
00:25:18,254 --> 00:25:21,554
We're only meant to be doing a recce,
but we can gain access to their property.

490
00:25:21,834 --> 00:25:25,504
We just need to go over to
that shed while he's away.

491
00:25:25,704 --> 00:25:29,014
We'll take a little video of us
walking in there and we can get out.

492
00:25:29,289 --> 00:25:29,609
Perfect.

493
00:25:29,639 --> 00:25:31,219
Yes, that can be part of the recce.

494
00:25:31,259 --> 00:25:32,799
We will hit point number
one of the contract.

495
00:25:32,849 --> 00:25:33,919
I'm really happy with this.

496
00:25:33,989 --> 00:25:34,499
Let's do it.

497
00:25:35,579 --> 00:25:36,899
Security guard goes off for his walk.

498
00:25:36,909 --> 00:25:39,539
We now count to 16 Mississippi.

499
00:25:39,789 --> 00:25:40,909
And we'd run over to the shed.

500
00:25:40,969 --> 00:25:43,439
We go into the shed, a
little video of us entering.

501
00:25:43,469 --> 00:25:44,289
We look at the monitor.

502
00:25:44,689 --> 00:25:45,529
It was a monitor.

503
00:25:45,779 --> 00:25:47,499
It had the split screen.

504
00:25:47,499 --> 00:25:49,779
There were four screens on
there showing four cameras.

505
00:25:50,019 --> 00:25:51,219
The cameras did not move.

506
00:25:51,249 --> 00:25:52,479
They did not change at all.

507
00:25:52,639 --> 00:25:55,419
So we knew where every single
camera in that whole building was,

508
00:25:55,639 --> 00:25:56,769
there was no way to change them.

509
00:25:56,969 --> 00:25:57,539
Four cameras.

510
00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:01,349
Okay, we're looking at these
cameras and the wall that I told you

511
00:26:01,349 --> 00:26:03,619
about that had the fire exits and

512
00:26:03,619 --> 00:26:06,529
the big shuttery doors did not
have a camera down the outside of

513
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:09,569
that, nor on the inside because
we couldn't see any shutter doors

514
00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:10,739
in any of the camera screens.

515
00:26:11,249 --> 00:26:13,859
Brilliant, we've got a safe point
that we can go down and we can hide

516
00:26:13,859 --> 00:26:16,209
down for half an hour and have a
bit more of a close look around.

517
00:26:16,574 --> 00:26:17,664
Okay, let's do that.

518
00:26:18,754 --> 00:26:19,614
So we've walked off.

519
00:26:20,164 --> 00:26:23,254
Going along this wall, I checked
fire door number one, can't get in.

520
00:26:23,274 --> 00:26:24,764
Checked fire door number
two, can't get in.

521
00:26:24,774 --> 00:26:27,364
Checked fire door number
three, it's wedged open.

522
00:26:27,664 --> 00:26:31,574
In where the lock should go, there's
a piece of wood stuck in there and

523
00:26:31,574 --> 00:26:33,354
it's been gaffer taped in place.

524
00:26:33,474 --> 00:26:36,944
You can't really see it from the
outside, but it's done in quite a

525
00:26:36,964 --> 00:26:41,784
clever Not clever, it's done in a nice
way that it can't be spotted easily.

526
00:26:42,074 --> 00:26:43,655
But the door just falls open.

527
00:26:43,705 --> 00:26:47,255
I now take a little video of me and my
buddy walking in through the building

528
00:26:47,605 --> 00:26:49,535
and we've hit contract point number two.

529
00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:53,455
Now in front of us, there's a load
of racking and there's a load of

530
00:26:53,455 --> 00:26:54,985
kit and there's loads of boxes.

531
00:26:55,005 --> 00:26:59,095
These are obviously things that are
ready to be shipped out tomorrow, okay?

532
00:26:59,095 --> 00:27:00,915
Or, sorry, today by this time.

533
00:27:01,875 --> 00:27:06,025
And, and my buddy I'll be honest, he's
got a bit of a dubious background.

534
00:27:06,665 --> 00:27:10,065
He's very good at what he does with me,
and he enjoys the work world, and he's

535
00:27:10,065 --> 00:27:11,655
the loveliest person you'd ever meet.

536
00:27:11,955 --> 00:27:15,695
I trust him with my wife, my
daughter, my house, my stuff.

537
00:27:16,045 --> 00:27:19,585
He just made a couple of silly
choices when he was younger, okay?

538
00:27:19,905 --> 00:27:20,845
And he paid for them.

539
00:27:21,635 --> 00:27:26,715
Now, in his background, he has a
bit of a thing for laptop computers.

540
00:27:29,025 --> 00:27:30,195
That's all I can really say on that.

541
00:27:31,195 --> 00:27:35,125
Whenever we go out on a job, he still
wants to steal a laptop computer.

542
00:27:35,135 --> 00:27:36,335
He does give them back.

543
00:27:36,765 --> 00:27:38,255
Okay, he's a good boy now.

544
00:27:38,275 --> 00:27:39,125
He gives them back.

545
00:27:39,815 --> 00:27:42,255
And he's looked at all
of these racking systems.

546
00:27:42,655 --> 00:27:45,425
He looked at me and went, need
to steal something of value.

547
00:27:46,195 --> 00:27:48,085
I'm looking for a laptop size boxed.

548
00:27:48,445 --> 00:27:49,535
And he goes, he's off.

549
00:27:49,565 --> 00:27:50,325
He's looking for that.

550
00:27:50,885 --> 00:27:53,335
I've looked back along the wall,
which has ran up the outside

551
00:27:53,335 --> 00:27:55,295
of, And I see a desk down there.

552
00:27:55,315 --> 00:27:56,965
Now this desk looks important.

553
00:27:57,025 --> 00:27:58,595
It's near all the big shutter doors.

554
00:27:58,855 --> 00:28:03,235
It's, it's, it's blatantly the place that
the person in charge of everything going

555
00:28:03,235 --> 00:28:05,195
on sits and controls everything from.

556
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,850
Okay, I go down there.

557
00:28:07,850 --> 00:28:11,350
I'm gonna look down there because I'm
gonna steal information from these people.

558
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:15,170
I go down there I go to the desk and
go through bits on the desk I stand up

559
00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:18,900
and I look in front of me and there's
one of those big key boxes You know the

560
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:22,390
red one you see them at car dealerships
for all the cars I've gotten a lot.

561
00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:25,880
There's one of those and I looked
at this thing and I thought

562
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,320
that's probably for the vehicles
That are just outside this wall.

563
00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:36,530
So I'll check the box and see if
there's keys in it I go to open the

564
00:28:36,530 --> 00:28:43,580
box, the key to lock the actual box
itself is very handily in the lock.

565
00:28:45,250 --> 00:28:46,750
So I don't even have to break anything.

566
00:28:46,750 --> 00:28:47,950
I just turn this and open it.

567
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:53,260
I now have in front of me roughly
42 keys for vehicles that are

568
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,820
probably just outside there.

569
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,140
And I kind of think to myself, well,
I've gotta steal something of value.

570
00:29:00,090 --> 00:29:01,530
A car's pretty valuable.

571
00:29:02,250 --> 00:29:02,910
That'll do.

572
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,870
We'll go for that.

573
00:29:05,150 --> 00:29:07,370
Call my mate over and I say to
'em, don't worry about the laptops.

574
00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:07,760
We're Nick.

575
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,930
We're nicking a car each.

576
00:29:09,490 --> 00:29:14,100
And very handily, every single key
has the number plate written on

577
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:18,900
it on a key fob, so we can just
walk out and find the vehicle.

578
00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:24,020
Even better, how many of you have
keys that when you blip a button,

579
00:29:24,370 --> 00:29:26,160
your car flashes its lights at you?

580
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:28,360
They all had that.

581
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,470
And when you're now working at
about half one in the morning

582
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,150
at night time, it's handy.

583
00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:35,270
It's very handy.

584
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:37,450
So we just take a key each.

585
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:38,730
We walk outside.

586
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:43,160
The security guard can't see
this area, so we're pretty safe.

587
00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:45,410
We're walking along, blipping the button.

588
00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:47,800
My one, the vehicle flashes.

589
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,430
It wasn't a car, it wasn't
a van, it's a massive truck.

590
00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:56,140
This bothers me a little bit, but
my dad owned a haulage company.

591
00:29:56,590 --> 00:30:00,060
I definitely haven't been driving trucks
illegalwalking along, blipping the

592
00:30:00,060 --> 00:30:01,860
button.Ause that would be wrong, okay?

593
00:30:02,390 --> 00:30:03,290
But I can drive a truck.

594
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,640
Try opening it up.

595
00:30:05,595 --> 00:30:06,955
Go to my mate if you found yours.

596
00:30:06,965 --> 00:30:07,805
He's blipped as well.

597
00:30:07,805 --> 00:30:09,235
He's also got a truck.

598
00:30:09,885 --> 00:30:12,905
He's a little bit nervous He swears
blind that he can drive them.

599
00:30:12,945 --> 00:30:15,565
I don't think he understands
double clutching if anyone in

600
00:30:15,575 --> 00:30:17,900
here understands that Well done.

601
00:30:18,430 --> 00:30:20,800
I hate them, but you can do it, right?

602
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:23,620
He gets into the truck and he
promises he can drive this.

603
00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:25,400
I said, just take it steady, take it easy.

604
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,840
We'll go really, really careful.

605
00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:30,370
We now wait for the next half hour
marker for when we know security

606
00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:31,200
guard's going to walk away.

607
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:34,200
We're now doing this by luck
and by guesswork and by hope.

608
00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:36,320
We count 260 Mississippi.

609
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,370
We start up the trucks and we drive out.

610
00:30:39,390 --> 00:30:42,890
Now, this is the slowest you will
have ever seen two trucks drive

611
00:30:42,890 --> 00:30:44,130
around an industrial estate.

612
00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:48,550
We get out we do a left and a right,
and down there, under half a mile away,

613
00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:51,200
there was a lay by that we could fit
in, and we put the trucks in there.

614
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840
And it was nice and well lit,
because, you know, we don't

615
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,290
want the trucks getting stolen.

616
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,770
And we park up.

617
00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:00,300
I jump out of the truck and I'm
like, right, I better call security.

618
00:31:00,670 --> 00:31:04,820
Because we've got the chief of security's
mobile phone number to call him

619
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:07,070
whenever anything interesting happens.

620
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:08,210
So we give him a call.

621
00:31:10,110 --> 00:31:12,360
The call goes something like this.

622
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:14,140
Hey mate, it's Paul Newton.

623
00:31:14,190 --> 00:31:16,870
I've just been wrecking
in one of your buildings.

624
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:18,560
Paul, you're calling at a ridiculous time.

625
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,040
What's happened?

626
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,670
Has something happened
and do I need to know?

627
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:23,090
But yes, yes, something has happened.

628
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,440
We've completed the contract already.

629
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,320
What do you mean you've completed it?

630
00:31:26,330 --> 00:31:28,060
You, you're only meant
to be out doing wreckies.

631
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,540
Yes, but we saw an opportunity and
we went for it and we have completed.

632
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:33,210
Yeah, I don't understand.

633
00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:34,550
What have you stolen?

634
00:31:34,690 --> 00:31:35,390
Two trucks.

635
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,890
We've got a truck each.

636
00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:39,430
We've gained in, we've got
access to this building.

637
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,480
We've got keys.

638
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,480
We've stolen a truck.

639
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,840
We've completely, there's
no damage on anything.

640
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,830
We didn't have to break anything to do so.

641
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,685
And I would lay a bet that there isn't
even an alert from your security as yet.

642
00:31:50,095 --> 00:31:50,855
No, there's not.

643
00:31:51,045 --> 00:31:52,835
There's nothing flagging up at all.

644
00:31:53,715 --> 00:31:54,735
We've got two trucks.

645
00:31:54,855 --> 00:31:55,705
We've parked them up.

646
00:31:56,835 --> 00:31:59,915
He then said, But the trucks
are empty, aren't they, Paul?

647
00:32:00,175 --> 00:32:02,055
And I said, I'll be honest,
mate, I haven't even checked.

648
00:32:02,065 --> 00:32:04,215
I've got to this point
and I've called you.

649
00:32:04,575 --> 00:32:05,515
Could you check for me?

650
00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:09,955
We open up the back of my truck and
it is full of flat screen tellies.

651
00:32:10,015 --> 00:32:13,220
Quite large flat screen tellies that
are probably worth a fair bit of money.

652
00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:17,500
We open up the back of my mate's
truck, and this is my favourite bit.

653
00:32:17,550 --> 00:32:19,770
It's full of computers and laptops.

654
00:32:20,830 --> 00:32:23,200
You couldn't make this up,
but this was brilliant.

655
00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:24,670
This was absolutely brilliant.

656
00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:26,930
The guy on the end of the
phone starts swearing a lot.

657
00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:29,290
There is a lot of rude words going on.

658
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:32,510
I'm getting kind of used to people
swearing at me in my life these days.

659
00:32:32,540 --> 00:32:33,650
It's absolutely fine.

660
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,500
So I said to him, What do
you want us to do, Neil?

661
00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:39,510
Your choices are And he stopped me.

662
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:43,940
He said, Paul, you're the expert on this.

663
00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,810
You do whatever you want.

664
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,970
Now, a lot of you guys have only
met me for this video thing today.

665
00:32:51,250 --> 00:32:55,060
And I would lay a bet that you
already know never to say to Paul

666
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:57,340
Newton, do whatever you want.

667
00:32:58,130 --> 00:32:58,710
Cause he will.

668
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,600
That night we stole eight trucks.

669
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:05,410
We parked them around various
places on the industrial estate.

670
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:09,400
We took the keys and put them in
an envelope and handed them to

671
00:33:09,410 --> 00:33:11,900
security and asked them to put
them in the pigeonhole for the

672
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:13,460
depot manager for tomorrow morning.

673
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,970
This story has some lessons.

674
00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:23,840
Number one, can you imagine being the
people that walked into work the next

675
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,200
day and went, where's our trucks?

676
00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:31,620
Number two, can you imagine being the
depot manager who opens up an envelope

677
00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:35,280
with eight keys in it and a little
map of where all the trucks are?

678
00:33:36,410 --> 00:33:39,810
Imagine being the guy in charge
of the warehouse and logistics.

679
00:33:40,665 --> 00:33:43,205
You're just going, I've got trucks
missing and no idea what's going on.

680
00:33:44,305 --> 00:33:45,960
Imagine being the security guard.

681
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:49,170
The A Trucks have got a stolen bus.

682
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,740
Now, in all of our contracts, I have
a clause that anyone I bypass, anyone

683
00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:59,560
I hoodwink, anyone I steal from,
you cannot tell them off, you cannot

684
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,920
reprimand them, you cannot fire them,
you cannot discipline them in any way.

685
00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:05,460
The only thing you're allowed
to do is give them to me

686
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:06,850
and my buddies for training.

687
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:07,980
Okay?

688
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:10,350
Because I don't think it's fair.

689
00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:11,140
I just don't.

690
00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:16,050
You should not be putting people
up against me and my team if

691
00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:17,450
they haven't been fully trained.

692
00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:22,980
So, the second lesson from this one.

693
00:34:23,870 --> 00:34:25,260
What could have stopped us?

694
00:34:26,410 --> 00:34:30,360
There's three main points here that could
have easily stopped me and my buddy.

695
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:35,790
Number one, if they'd given the security
guard an extension lead and a heater,

696
00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:39,260
he would not have needed to go for a
walk every half hour just to warm his

697
00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:42,310
body up, to get away from being frozen.

698
00:34:44,050 --> 00:34:47,810
If he'd had a heater and an
extension lead, that place would

699
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:48,930
have been so much more secure.

700
00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:55,870
Number two, on that fire door that was
wedged with a piece of wood, if they'd

701
00:34:55,870 --> 00:35:00,930
just put an RFID lock on it, or a code
lock on it, then all the smokers who hated

702
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:04,420
going from that bit of the warehouse and
walking all the way around when the doors

703
00:35:04,420 --> 00:35:09,000
were locked, just to have a cigarette,
they could have just gone through that

704
00:35:09,010 --> 00:35:12,420
door, easily gone for a cigarette,
and it would have stayed secure.

705
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:13,750
Cost of that?

706
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,340
About 25.

707
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,420
Cost of a heater and extension?

708
00:35:19,090 --> 00:35:20,240
Probably about 40.

709
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:22,200
The last one.

710
00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:27,800
If the person in charge of the keys had
just taken the key out of the lockbox, I

711
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,740
would never have got access to the keys.

712
00:35:30,370 --> 00:35:31,080
Cost of that?

713
00:35:31,610 --> 00:35:32,110
Nothing.

714
00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:34,470
Think about it.

715
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,510
I don't want you to panic about security
costing you an absolute fortune.

716
00:35:39,775 --> 00:35:46,055
But if they'd spent 60, 70 on those little
things that I've just mentioned, they'd

717
00:35:46,055 --> 00:35:52,915
have stopped a heist from me and my mate
that was probably worth about 11 million.

718
00:35:54,215 --> 00:35:58,355
Now again, I want to point out
to you, it's not just the money.

719
00:35:59,145 --> 00:36:02,862
If we'd stolen that stuff and gone,
We could have sold all of that

720
00:36:02,862 --> 00:36:06,990
gear and probably got about 30 to
40 percent of its value in cash.

721
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:10,220
Okay, so we would have
gained 4 to 5 million pounds.

722
00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:13,150
It's about reputation.

723
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,570
Can you imagine calling up every single
end user and saying your stuff that was

724
00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:22,890
being delivered today has been stolen
and we've got no idea where it is?

725
00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:27,690
Can you imagine the media and the PR,
one of the biggest logistics firms in

726
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:31,670
the world, has just had this stolen
from their base and they've got no proof

727
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:33,500
of what happened, where, when or why?

728
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:36,340
That's what it's about.

729
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:38,850
That could have brought that company down.

730
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,020
What could have saved them?

731
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:42,520
About 70 quid.

732
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:44,960
Just ridiculous.

733
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:46,840
Let's do another magic trick.

734
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,790
Because at some point, any minute
now, Becca's going to tell me

735
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:50,680
off and tell me it's sharp.

736
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,370
But Becca, just to warn you,
I could keep going for hours.

737
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,320
This is one of my favorite tricks.

738
00:36:55,350 --> 00:36:57,440
I don't do loads of card tricks anymore.

739
00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:57,850
Okay?

740
00:36:58,100 --> 00:36:59,370
I, I, I love this.

741
00:36:59,370 --> 00:37:00,130
We get three cards.

742
00:37:00,130 --> 00:37:01,780
Now, you will notice one of them is red.

743
00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:03,840
And when I turn them around,
it's the only red card.

744
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,570
So we've got a four, a five, and a six.

745
00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:06,120
Okay?

746
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,580
Four, five, six.

747
00:37:08,035 --> 00:37:08,375
Got it?

748
00:37:08,875 --> 00:37:10,435
The red one is the red one.

749
00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:14,615
Now, I'm at an age and a size where
I need to look after my heart.

750
00:37:15,115 --> 00:37:17,435
So that's why I make sure it's
the red card so we can keep

751
00:37:17,435 --> 00:37:18,695
an eye on it really easily.

752
00:37:18,785 --> 00:37:19,145
Got it?

753
00:37:19,555 --> 00:37:20,715
Red one, red one.

754
00:37:21,195 --> 00:37:22,225
I'll make it easier.

755
00:37:22,735 --> 00:37:25,105
I'll put the red one over
here so it's on its own.

756
00:37:25,725 --> 00:37:28,165
And for those of you who think
I'm cheating, look, it's still

757
00:37:28,175 --> 00:37:30,765
the four and the six there, okay?

758
00:37:30,865 --> 00:37:32,925
The blue cards, four and the six.

759
00:37:33,115 --> 00:37:37,835
And for those of you who are cheeky kids,
there's nothing in between them at all.

760
00:37:37,875 --> 00:37:39,395
There's just two cards.

761
00:37:39,945 --> 00:37:41,875
So we get rid of these two down there.

762
00:37:43,850 --> 00:37:46,990
And we've got the five
of hearts just here.

763
00:37:48,570 --> 00:37:49,660
Where'd the joker come from?

764
00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:49,670
I

765
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:53,580
love that stuff.

766
00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:55,410
I still love close up magic.

767
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:57,560
I still love messing with people's heads.

768
00:37:57,720 --> 00:37:58,380
Scams.

769
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:00,050
Insurances.

770
00:38:00,050 --> 00:38:01,410
I'm gonna warn you about them now.

771
00:38:01,690 --> 00:38:04,960
If you buy foreign insurance for
your business or for your personal

772
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,340
world, anywhere, please do it
through a broker based trust.

773
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,950
Please do it through a way
that you fully trust, okay?

774
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:14,320
Because I'm gonna tell you about
a scam that's taking UK businesses

775
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,035
to Now, here's what I do.

776
00:38:17,085 --> 00:38:19,675
I set up an insurance company
and I go and buy the cheapest

777
00:38:19,685 --> 00:38:21,145
possible insurance anywhere.

778
00:38:21,375 --> 00:38:25,515
Let's say it's a travel insurance
for my dog to go to Devon and back.

779
00:38:26,985 --> 00:38:27,815
Cheap, okay.

780
00:38:28,045 --> 00:38:29,165
It'll cost me a couple of pound.

781
00:38:29,875 --> 00:38:33,345
Now, when I get that insurance document
through, I then set up an insurance

782
00:38:33,345 --> 00:38:41,065
company that uses lots of check out
our insurance prices, places, and,

783
00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:44,825
and you guys go there and say, I want
insurance for my wedding business.

784
00:38:45,775 --> 00:38:49,505
We'll go for PLI, that's gonna cost
me three or four hundred pound a year.

785
00:38:51,315 --> 00:38:54,485
One company is about 20 percent
cheaper than the others but

786
00:38:54,495 --> 00:38:55,795
offers exactly what you want.

787
00:38:57,485 --> 00:39:01,795
Now, what I do is when you
buy the insurance from me, I

788
00:39:01,815 --> 00:39:03,975
take my dog travel insurance.

789
00:39:04,605 --> 00:39:09,325
I take the PDF, I edit the PDF so
you've got a nice looking insurance

790
00:39:09,325 --> 00:39:15,675
document and I change all the details
from Sammy Dog Newton to your wedding

791
00:39:15,685 --> 00:39:19,925
business, your addresses and change
the information to make it look right.

792
00:39:20,285 --> 00:39:23,315
There is an insurance document
of that name that does exist

793
00:39:23,375 --> 00:39:27,005
and there is an underwriter from
that company that does exist.

794
00:39:27,195 --> 00:39:30,515
So you guys think you're safe
because you've got the document

795
00:39:30,525 --> 00:39:31,775
that proves you're insured.

796
00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:35,435
You haven't.

797
00:39:37,660 --> 00:39:38,610
I've just committed fraud.

798
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:41,050
I've just changed a document.

799
00:39:41,790 --> 00:39:43,600
Made it look like you've
got good insurance.

800
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:47,200
You've got insurance for
a dog that you don't own.

801
00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:49,180
Probably doesn't even exist.

802
00:39:51,010 --> 00:39:52,850
This is happening now.

803
00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:54,440
Okay?

804
00:39:55,660 --> 00:40:02,000
So, horribly, if you need insurance
for your businesses, please do use a

805
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:04,270
broker that's trusted and you know.

806
00:40:05,475 --> 00:40:06,345
Don't get me wrong.

807
00:40:06,425 --> 00:40:09,035
I completely understand we need
to save money at the moment.

808
00:40:09,345 --> 00:40:12,245
I completely understand that
we want to find the best deals.

809
00:40:13,225 --> 00:40:16,825
But sometimes, that amazing deal is the
one that's going to bring your company.

810
00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:18,145
Okay?

811
00:40:19,315 --> 00:40:20,245
I promised at the start.

812
00:40:20,885 --> 00:40:23,545
This is not information that's
going to cost you loads of money.

813
00:40:24,045 --> 00:40:26,525
This is stuff that you should
need to do due diligence on.

814
00:40:28,105 --> 00:40:30,095
Get drones from somewhere you trust.

815
00:40:30,525 --> 00:40:30,795
Right!

816
00:40:32,415 --> 00:40:32,945
We could do that.

817
00:40:32,945 --> 00:40:33,495
We could do that.

818
00:40:33,685 --> 00:40:34,425
Oh, we could do that.

819
00:40:36,395 --> 00:40:37,015
Yes!

820
00:40:37,405 --> 00:40:39,975
I'm going to do one
more silly little story.

821
00:40:40,285 --> 00:40:42,085
This one is kind of important.

822
00:40:42,095 --> 00:40:44,555
If you I heard Becca talk
about wedding fairs earlier.

823
00:40:44,905 --> 00:40:51,780
If you use chip and pin machines to,
to sell to people, If you use chip

824
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:53,670
and pin machines to buy things Yes!

825
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:56,760
I'm going to doat the
moment is going great.

826
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:58,290
I think it's a very good thing.

827
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,270
I really do like it.

828
00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:04,380
I prefer connecting it to my mobile
because at least then I have my

829
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:07,600
thumbprint or my facial recognition
that stops anyone using my card.

830
00:41:08,010 --> 00:41:11,920
If you take contactless payments,
how do you know 100 percent that that

831
00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:12,910
is the person who owns that card?

832
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:18,240
If you do chip and pin, here's
the warning story for you now.

833
00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:22,800
So, I was in Tesco's a little while ago.

834
00:41:23,470 --> 00:41:26,800
Now, I live in an area
that's very tourist heavy.

835
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:29,190
I love the area I live
in, it's very pretty.

836
00:41:29,770 --> 00:41:33,840
I don't know how and I don't know
why but whenever I'm in Tesco or

837
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,430
Sainsbury's or something like that
there will normally be a little old lady

838
00:41:37,450 --> 00:41:38,900
wanting to chat to me about something.

839
00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:43,950
Now this one time this little old lady
wanted to chat me about how excited she

840
00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:47,670
was because her daughter and her grandson
were coming to visit her and they're

841
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:50,630
going to enjoy the touristy stuff and I'm
like yeah it's great I love doing that.

842
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:54,980
At the teal she's in front of
me, she put her stuff on there,

843
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:56,510
she's got me on the conveyor belt.

844
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,010
thingy.

845
00:41:57,010 --> 00:42:00,420
I start putting my stuff out and she
says, Oh, you're not a single man.

846
00:42:00,420 --> 00:42:00,730
Are you?

847
00:42:00,730 --> 00:42:01,550
That's too much for us.

848
00:42:01,690 --> 00:42:02,950
And I went, no, I'm just to be glad.

849
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,570
But stuff and stuff,
normal things going on.

850
00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:08,830
Now,

851
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:14,200
the amount that she's paying
is way over contactless.

852
00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:16,030
So she used the chip and pin.

853
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:20,370
She's now stood to a
bloke that looks massive.

854
00:42:20,785 --> 00:42:23,675
When I'm not wearing the trolley
head, let's be honest, I look

855
00:42:23,675 --> 00:42:25,775
like a shaved head thug, okay?

856
00:42:26,275 --> 00:42:31,965
She's stood next to me, the lady passes
her the chip and pin machine, this little

857
00:42:31,965 --> 00:42:39,040
old lady then takes it, puts her card in,
literally showing me She taps in her pin.

858
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:44,530
You guys know what I do for a living.

859
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:46,080
How long do you

860
00:42:46,090 --> 00:42:49,830
would take me to have lifted her do
you really think it would I probably

861
00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:53,760
could have lifted her wallet, taken the
credit card, put the wallet back in her

862
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,710
pocket without her even knowing and had
her credit card for as long as I want.

863
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,400
And I'm one of the nicer ones.

864
00:43:00,660 --> 00:43:03,590
Imagine some absolute a
hole who would just take the

865
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:04,900
wallet and hit her to get it.

866
00:43:06,595 --> 00:43:08,065
Now imagine they've got a PIN number.

867
00:43:09,745 --> 00:43:11,805
How long will it take
her to cancel that card?

868
00:43:13,685 --> 00:43:15,495
Now this is a sensible one, okay?

869
00:43:16,115 --> 00:43:21,415
If you're running wedding fairs and you
have people paying you using chip and

870
00:43:21,415 --> 00:43:24,075
PIN, please make sure they're covered.

871
00:43:25,565 --> 00:43:31,005
Because if a thief, if a mugger, if
a burglar sees their PIN number while

872
00:43:31,045 --> 00:43:35,582
you're engaging that person, how
will you feel when you hear about it?

873
00:43:35,582 --> 00:43:38,520
We all want to stop these
absolute scumbuckets.

874
00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:44,440
And just giving people little
ways of covering their pins

875
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,680
is the best thing you can do.

876
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:47,550
Okay?

877
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:50,930
It's for you, it's for your
reputation, it's for your client.

878
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,420
And the best result is you will
never hear about this working.

879
00:43:57,110 --> 00:43:59,240
Because if it works,
the thing will happen.

880
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,380
The worst result is that you hear that
a bride got hit over the head because

881
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:06,000
she was taken for a credit card.

882
00:44:06,595 --> 00:44:09,955
Because somebody saw her using her PIN
number while they were dealing with you.

883
00:44:11,255 --> 00:44:13,255
Please, it's just simple stuff.

884
00:44:13,475 --> 00:44:16,195
I want this stuff to stop
as quickly as possible.

885
00:44:19,325 --> 00:44:22,075
Becca: I really hope you enjoyed
today's sneaky look inside

886
00:44:22,115 --> 00:44:23,985
the Members Lounge portal.

887
00:44:24,225 --> 00:44:27,135
I hope that you will consider
joining us in the Members Lounge.

888
00:44:27,135 --> 00:44:30,575
We have current up to date training
just like this every single month,

889
00:44:30,615 --> 00:44:32,895
plus a huge library of training
that we've had over the years.

890
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,000
Previously, also, if you want to
see this video again, but with

891
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,970
the PowerPoint visuals or with the
Q and a, at the end, you'll find

892
00:44:38,970 --> 00:44:40,260
it all inside the members lounge.

893
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:41,390
I'll see you next time.