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Dustin HinerWelcome to the Master Passive Income show.
Dustin HinerThis is Dustin Hiner, and I'm here to help you create wealth, afford anything you want in life by investing in real estate and achieve financial freedom.
Dustin HinerAnd in today's show, we're going to be talking all about fear and what is keeping you from investing in real estate, becoming successful and getting you past all those fears so you can live the dream life by investing in real estate and never have to worry about money again.
Dustin HinerAll right, let's start the show.
Dustin HinerWelcome to the Master Passive Income podcast where we talk about investing in real estate with a special focus on making enough money so you can quit your job and live the dream life.
Dustin HinerAnd now, here is your host, Dustin Hiner.
Dustin HinerWhat's up?
Dustin HinerWhat's up?
Dustin HinerSuper blessed as always to have you here with me on the show.
Dustin HinerAnd you guys know that I am physically moving my entire family from Phoenix, Arizona, to Tennessee.
Dustin HinerNow, last week I told you about the whole game plan of how we're going to leave the house that we're currently living in as a rental property.
Dustin HinerWe bought an Airbnb in Tennessee in May, I believe.
Dustin HinerYeah, end of May is when I bought it.
Dustin HinerAnd it's been Airbnb making us good money, but we're going to move into that one because we really want to move to Tennessee.
Dustin HinerAnd I am also leaving my current house here in Phoenix as a midterm rental.
Dustin HinerNow, when you buy one rental property, you start a business, and there are different ways that you can actually utilize this property to make money.
Dustin HinerOne way.
Dustin HinerWe love long term.
Dustin HinerIn fact, oh, my goodness, I love long term properties.
Dustin HinerIt's hard for me to do short term or midterm because long term is so simple and I make a lot of money.
Dustin HinerBut you make more money and it's more work, but you make more money if you do midterm or short term.
Dustin HinerWell, we have the short term property in Tennessee, and that's going tremendously well.
Dustin HinerI'm looking to pick up some more short term properties, and here's the exciting news.
Dustin HinerLeaving here, leaving my house as a midterm rental property because in Phoenix, my goodness, there's like 50,000 short term properties in all of Arizona.
Dustin HinerPhoenix.
Dustin HinerI don't know.
Dustin HinerI don't really know the exact number.
Dustin HinerMaybe 35, 40,000.
Dustin HinerThere are so many short term or Airbnb type properties that I want to stand out a little different.
Dustin HinerAnd we're right by.
Dustin HinerLike, my house is literally right by the spring baseball all the different spring baseball is literally, they all come here, all the different teams, they come here for spring baseball, and my house is perfect for it.
Dustin HinerAnd we're leaving at the end of October, and it's going to be the best time of the year to actually rent it.
Dustin HinerSo here is the plan.
Dustin HinerAnd, oh, before I get to the plan, because I shared the plan for it with you, but I'm going to show you the good news.
Dustin HinerI put this, this house on the market, and I put it on Airbnb.
Dustin HinerVrbo even did zillow furnished finder.
Dustin HinerAnd we got some people looking at it.
Dustin HinerBut then Airbnb, I got somebody to book it the day after we leave.
Dustin HinerThat is October 30.
Dustin HinerThey are moving here 2024, and they're going to be here for three months.
Dustin HinerSo January 30 at the end of the month in January, that's three months we are going to be getting or having a midterm renter.
Dustin HinerAnd so it's already rented.
Dustin HinerI mean, it literally took, like, maybe a week for somebody to honestly, to rent this.
Dustin HinerAnd I think we could probably long term rent this house for $2,100.
Dustin HinerThat's, you know, evie, easy be able to get that for $2100 for long term.
Dustin HinerNo, you know, furniture, no, nothing.
Dustin HinerIt's just long term.
Dustin HinerWell, I put it as a midterm rental, and I even gave everybody, hey, you, rent per month, I'll give you 15% off.
Dustin HinerWell, we got $3,400 per month for this property being fully furnished.
Dustin HinerAnd another reason why we wanted to have it fully furnished is in case we ever want to move back or we kind of come visit, we have a house we can move into and live at now $3,400, but that's not all profit.
Dustin HinerNow, when you think about the expenses you have for long term, that's going to be a little bit different than medium or short term.
Dustin HinerBut when you think about what you have is you actually still have to pay the electrical bill.
Dustin HinerWhen you have a long term property, then the tenants pay for the electrical.
Dustin HinerWell, man, in the summer, this last summer, we did a lot of laundry.
Dustin HinerWe had, you know, seven people in the house now, but one month was dollar 500 in electrical.
Dustin HinerI mean, just crazy.
Dustin HinerDollar 500 in electrical.
Dustin HinerBut that's accounting.
Dustin HinerI have to account for that in my numbers.
Dustin HinerIf I'm running for $3,400, well, I'm blessed.
Dustin HinerI don't have a mortgage on this property, so the majority of it is income coming into our pocket, but we have more expenses.
Dustin HinerAnd here's the crazy thing.
Dustin HinerAnd I already committed to midterm property, so we spent, you know, lots of money on furnishing the place.
Dustin HinerWell, I, you guys all know that I talk about building the business and you hire experts.
Dustin HinerWell, I found two expert property managers that do midterm properties.
Dustin HinerAnd honestly, both of them, when I told them that we could long term rent the property for $2,100, they both said, you know what?
Dustin HinerHonestly, I think the market is very saturated for all types of properties, short term and midterm.
Dustin HinerNow, I think it's probably better since you get 2100 for it.
Dustin HinerGo ahead and rent it long term.
Dustin HinerYou have a lot less headache and everything like that.
Dustin HinerWell, that is, I mean, that's great information.
Dustin HinerI was really kicking myself because Mandev, $2100, I don't have to pay for electrical.
Dustin HinerI don't have to pay for water or sewer or garbage.
Dustin HinerI don't have to pay for Internet.
Dustin HinerInternet.
Dustin HinerI had to lower it to the lowest one is like $50 a month.
Dustin HinerSo that eats into what we're looking at as our revenue.
Dustin HinerBut if we're renting over $3,400 and let's say all of our expenses are six, $700 a month.
Dustin HinerSo let's say $700.
Dustin HinerWell, we're still at $2,700.
Dustin HinerWe're making a, probably an extra five or $600 a month by doing a midterm rental.
Dustin HinerIf we could get it rented now, since it's the best time of year, the winter and in the springtime is the best time in Arizona, we figure let's just run with it and let's give it a year.
Dustin HinerLet's do an entire year and let's see if we can keep it rented and let's see if we can do better than a long term property with these property managers.
Dustin HinerSo praise the Lord.
Dustin HinerWe got it rented out for three months, which is great, which gives us plenty of time.
Dustin HinerSo beginning of February all the way to April, like spring ball season.
Dustin HinerI already have people wanting to rent this place for spring ball, which is terrific.
Dustin HinerI'll have, hopefully have another three months.
Dustin HinerSo maybe six months getting $3,400 a month.
Dustin HinerNow the summertime hits.
Dustin HinerThat's when we're going to have, you know, the rubber meets the road.
Dustin HinerWe'll see if we actually make money then.
Dustin HinerAnd if in the summer we don't make money, well, the way we're going to make money is we're going to do renting out per room to traveling nurses.
Dustin HinerTraveling nurses do not have the big stipend like they did back in 2020.
Dustin HinerThey were getting, like, five grand, four grand to rent a place because they needed people to come in and work.
Dustin HinerWell, they don't do that anymore.
Dustin HinerThey're getting, like, $1,500.
Dustin HinerWell, if I could rent out each room.
Dustin HinerWe got three bedrooms in this house at $1,500.
Dustin HinerYou know, the master might be a little more, smaller rooms might be a little less, but that is $3,500 right there.
Dustin HinerYou know, so it's where it's midterm rental again, and it's $3,500.
Dustin HinerSo as soon as spring ball ends, you know, April comes and goes, we're going to hopefully have it rented as a midterm for traveling nurses, renting out per room.
Dustin HinerSo, man, this is awesome.
Dustin HinerThis is what I want you guys to do as investors, to be thinking about all these different options for how you can make money.
Dustin HinerNow, I know where you are right now.
Dustin HinerIf you're listening to this and you haven't invested, you might have a little bit of fear.
Dustin HinerA fear about losing money, fear about finding the right property.
Dustin HinerI'm sorry, finding the wrong property and buying a money pit and then losing money, all these fears come up for every single person.
Dustin HinerI mean, I still have the fears when I buy a property now.
Dustin HinerI have a lot more, I guess, experience that helps me to get past that fears pretty quickly.
Dustin HinerBut that's what we need as investors is other people around us to help us to get past these fears.
Dustin HinerAnd that's what this episode is about, is helping you to get past these fears.
Dustin HinerThat's going to help you to move forward to buy your first property.
Dustin HinerNow, if you already have your first property, let's say you have three to five units, or maybe you have six units.
Dustin HinerWell, in the real estate investor roadmap that we have here at master passive income, we want to get to five units as fast as possible, because when you're zero to five units, you're at the beginner, the starter stage.
Dustin HinerThat's the mom and pop.
Dustin HinerThat's somebody doesn't have a business.
Dustin HinerWell, once you get to six plus properties, to 20 properties, then you are a business owner.
Dustin HinerThat's when we scale, and there are problems that come with every single step of the way.
Dustin HinerI think it was like, five episodes ago, I talked about that real estate investor roadmap.
Dustin HinerYou definitely want to go back and learn that because you, as a real estate investor, are really following what every single real estate investor does.
Dustin HinerWe all follow his path.
Dustin HinerIt's basically playing monopoly.
Dustin HinerThat's really what it comes down to.
Dustin HinerSo as you get past the roadmap, step by step by step, eventually you're gonna get the pace where the fear is not nearly as bad.
Dustin HinerAnd I have this episode to help you to get down the path, because every single step along the path, if you're a beginner, you know, starting, if you are a business owner, even an expert, there are a fear.
Dustin HinerThere are things that you need to step past.
Dustin HinerNow, one big thing that, a huge announcement.
Dustin HinerI'm really super excited.
Dustin HinerYou guys know that we started Rubcon.
Dustin HinerThat's the conference in person conference.
Dustin HinerWell, we also started Rube club.
Dustin HinerThat's a real estate wealth booth club.
Dustin HinerThat's a monthly meetup.
Dustin HinerWe started our first one in Charlotte in September.
Dustin HinerIt's going fantastic.
Dustin HinerWe have lots of people coming.
Dustin HinerWe're also having a monthly meetup.
Dustin HinerWe're starting 1 November 19.
Dustin HinerSo we are gonna have the newest rube club.
Dustin HinerThe Phoenix Rube club is gonna be starting.
Dustin HinerIt's gonna be at the downtown Holiday Inn right by really close to the airport.
Dustin HinerAnd you know what's kind of funny enough, I'm literally moving away and I've lived here for seven years and I'm having to fly back like three weeks later to come speak.
Dustin HinerSo if you wanna come hear me speak at the newest Rube club here in Phoenix, Arizona, it's gonna be, I believe we're starting at 06:00 p.m.
Dustin Hineron November 19.
Dustin HinerSo check the link in the description.
Dustin HinerI'm going to give you the link so you can see more about the Rube club.
Dustin HinerThe first one is absolutely free.
Dustin HinerCome hang out with me.
Dustin HinerCharles Rose junior and many other people are going to be there.
Dustin HinerAnd that is another way for us as real estate investors to get past the fear and getting past these roadblocks that come as we are going down.
Dustin HinerThe investor success roadmap and getting around other people is the best way to do it.
Dustin HinerYou need to come even just come hang out with me for the day.
Dustin HinerThis first one is an absolutely free event for you to come and hang out with me and everybody else.
Dustin HinerAnd I'm going to be teaching as well.
Dustin HinerAnd you know, like in fashion of the real estate wealth business conference.
Dustin HinerIt's all about helping you.
Dustin HinerIt's all about serving you, helping you, not pitching you for big this, that.
Dustin HinerNo, we're here to help.
Dustin HinerSo check out the link in the description.
Dustin HinerI believe it's going to be rubecon.com club.
Dustin HinerYou'll get more information.
Dustin HinerYou can register.
Dustin HinerSo we can know that you're coming, but it's completely free on November 19 at 06:00 p.m.
Dustin Hinerat the downtown Holiday Inn, which will get you more information.
Dustin HinerSo register for that now.
Dustin HinerSuper pumped to share with you how to get past all this fear that comes when you're investing in real estate and getting started.
Dustin HinerAnd every single step of the way you're gonna hit a roadblock.
Dustin HinerBut we gotta get past these fears, and I wanna pause for a quick second and share that.
Dustin HinerHonestly, I really want you to invest in real estate.
Dustin HinerNow, my new goal is to help 1 million people invest in real estate.
Dustin HinerSo two things I would ask from you.
Dustin HinerNumber one, if you get anything out of this episode, please share it with somebody else.
Dustin HinerJust say, hey, you know, check out dustin master passive income.
Dustin HinerHe really wants to help a million people to invest in real estate.
Dustin HinerThat's number one.
Dustin HinerNumber two, I want to get you to invest in real estate.
Dustin HinerGet my real estate investing course.
Dustin HinerAbsolutely.
Dustin HinerFor free.
Dustin HinerText the word rental.
Dustin HinerRental 23377 rental to 3377.
Dustin HinerI'll literally give you my course, show you how to find the area of the country to invest, how to build the business first.
Dustin HinerYou know, I always talk about that and how to find the right properties, how to make sure you're getting experts do the work for you and scale the business to where you're making $250 or more in passive income.
Dustin HinerScale it to quit your job.
Dustin HinerI'll literally get to you or go to masterpassiveincome.com freecourse.
Dustin HinerObviously it'll be in the description, but I really, really want you to invest in real estate because the more that actual normal, everyday people own real estate that are good landlords, the better everybody's life gets.
Dustin HinerNow, buying that first property, that is very, very difficult.
Dustin HinerI went through that same thing.
Dustin HinerIn fact, every time I buy a property, I'm kind of thinking, you know what?
Dustin HinerI'm praying that this is going to work out.
Dustin HinerBut what I've done is because I've created a system, because I've done it so many times, it's really just like, you know, going to a grocery store, just picking out something and buying it and saying, you know what?
Dustin HinerThis is going to work for me and put it to good use.
Dustin HinerExact same thing.
Dustin HinerEspecially once you have an area of the country that you invest, you already have 34567, maybe 15 properties.
Dustin HinerYou already have a property manager that's going to run the properties for you or that is currently running the properties.
Dustin HinerIt's so much easier to buy that property now, because you already have the business put in place.
Dustin HinerSo that is.
Dustin HinerWe'll get to that in just a little bit.
Dustin HinerBut I wanted to talk about some fears that people have.
Dustin HinerThe fears that come into people's heads when.
Dustin HinerOh, my goodness.
Dustin HinerLike.
Dustin HinerLike, I'll give you a question that people get asked me.
Dustin HinerWhat if I lose money?
Dustin HinerOr what if I buy the wrong property?
Dustin HinerOr what if I buy in the wrong area of the town or estate or the another country?
Dustin HinerWhat if I buy in the wrong place?
Dustin HinerWhat if the property burns down?
Dustin HinerSo I have some questions I'm gonna go through, and then I'm gonna give you step by step ways to get past these fear.
Dustin HinerNow, what really happens in the very beginning is there's so much information as well as there's so many properties, so many places to look, so many different options on, you know, what type of house to look for.
Dustin HinerThere's so many things.
Dustin HinerSo somebody starts to feel overwhelmed.
Dustin HinerThey start.
Dustin HinerThe investor who's never bought a property, who's starting to build their business, they start feeling overwhelmed, and they kind of get a little, like, lost in the headlights, you know, like a deer looking at headlights.
Dustin HinerThey just stop and freeze.
Dustin HinerSo you kind of get lost in headlights, and you feel overwhelmed.
Dustin HinerBut then you shut down where you don't actually buy that first property.
Dustin HinerYou don't get that first win under your belt of a property.
Dustin HinerThat makes you money.
Dustin HinerNow, when you start feeling overwhelmed, you start feeling like there's.
Dustin HinerThere's too much out there.
Dustin HinerYou don't know if you're going to be able to do it right.
Dustin HinerWhat you need to do is never lose sight of your goal.
Dustin HinerLike, what is your ultimate reason, and why do you want to invest in real estate rental properties?
Dustin HinerFor me, it was because I was tired of working for somebody else.
Dustin HinerI wanted to be independent, or I financially independent, so I didn't have to rely on somebody else for a job.
Dustin HinerI literally just wanted to be able to do everything on my own and not rely on somebody else.
Dustin HinerSo that was my goal.
Dustin HinerYour goal might be because you want to, you know, spend more time with your family.
Dustin HinerThat's fantastic.
Dustin HinerOr travel the world or buy the things that you want, or whatever it might be.
Dustin HinerDon't lose sight of your goal, because your goal is gonna help you to remember that.
Dustin HinerYou need to push through all these roadblocks that come in your way, all these hurdles that come up as you're running.
Dustin HinerYou know, imagine yourself a track athlete.
Dustin HinerYou're running on the track, and there's hurdles in your way.
Dustin HinerWell, you got to jump over those hurdles.
Dustin HinerYou know, if you crash through them, you're going to get hurt.
Dustin HinerSo you got to try to get over those.
Dustin HinerSo don't lose sight on the reason why you want to invest and put that on the forefront of your mind.
Dustin HinerLike, if it's your, your kids, you know, make sure the picture of your kids is on your mirror when you wake up every morning.
Dustin HinerYou go to the bathroom, brush your teeth, and you see the picture of your kids and said, this is why.
Dustin HinerBecause I want more time to be able to spend time with my kids.
Dustin HinerI want to be able to coach the little league games instead of missing them because I'm working, you know, I want to be able to take them to the circus because I have money now to be able to do that.
Dustin HinerI want to be able to just be there for them and watch them grow up and live life rather than pass it by and then wish I had time back at the end.
Dustin HinerSo never lose sight of your goal.
Dustin HinerAnd with that, and I already said, this is what is your, why.
Dustin HinerWhy do you want to invest in real estate?
Dustin HinerWhy do you want to have the passive income coming in?
Dustin HinerRemember that every time you start feeling overwhelmed, it'll hopefully help you get focused.
Dustin HinerBecause I know it did for me.
Dustin HinerIt got me more focused on my vision and plan and the direction that I was going with real estate because I knew the ultimate goal was to eventually quit my job.
Dustin HinerSo I have more time for my family, I had more money, I had time, I had control over my life, and I was able to do that.
Dustin HinerNow in feeling overwhelmed, what I want to help you out is to understand that what is going to get you even more understanding of the process of buying properties, building a business.
Dustin HinerWhen you start feeling overwhelmed, you get even more overwhelmed.
Dustin HinerIt's really to get educated is one of the best ways to get past feeling overwhelmed.
Dustin HinerI know when I start feeling overwhelmed, it's because I don't have enough knowledge or understanding or information of the certain situation.
Dustin HinerI'll give you a more practical example.
Dustin HinerSo let's say, you know, when I'm driving through Salt Lake City, like, Salt Lake City is really, really big.
Dustin HinerWell, I get a little overwhelmed because it's a big city and I have no clue where to go.
Dustin HinerSo I'm relying on my gps, you know, you know, 21st century gps, where, you know, you say you have to have a map or talk to people, you know, get out of your car, like, hey, where do I go here?
Dustin HinerI remember, have to do that, but so when you don't know where you're going in the city and you have no map, you have nobody telling you where to go, you start feeling overwhelmed.
Dustin HinerLike, man, I don't have any information on how to get to where I want to go.
Dustin HinerLike, if you're driving from, let's say, oregon, you want to go to Disney World, which is in Orlando, Florida, you want to drive all the way there.
Dustin HinerWell, if you don't have a map, if you don't have somebody telling you how to get there or where to go or what to look out for, if you don't have any of that, you're going to feel overwhelmed because you're like, man, I'm just confused on what to do.
Dustin HinerNow, the key is to get educated.
Dustin HinerHave somebody helping you.
Dustin HinerIf you have somebody, if you know somebody that invests in real estate, talk to them, ask them questions, you know, pick their brains to see how you can make sure that you don't have any problems.
Dustin HinerOr as best you can, medicate through those problems by having somebody else help you.
Dustin HinerSo get educated on real estate.
Dustin HinerThat's listening to podcasts like mine.
Dustin HinerYou read blog articles, you can go to other sites, you can go to real estate investor meetups in your area.
Dustin HinerThere's so many different ways to get educated.
Dustin HinerSo you wanna get educated to help you to know the path that you wanna go.
Dustin HinerNow, here's another question I get, or one of the main questions I get, well, what if I lose money?
Dustin HinerLike, what do I do if I lose money?
Dustin HinerWell, absolutely.
Dustin HinerThat's a great question.
Dustin HinerYou're investing your money.
Dustin HinerIt's not like you're just going to be throwing your money and getting a guaranteed return.
Dustin HinerThere is a possible way that you lose money.
Dustin HinerBut what we do at master passive income, and why I teach all my students, is what we want to do is mitigate as much as we can from losing any money.
Dustin HinerNow, the way to do that is not to invest, to like, flip a property where you hope appreciation is actually going to make you money.
Dustin HinerYou know, you buy low and you sell within six months, and you flip, you flip the property, you know, put money into it, make it look better.
Dustin HinerAnd then we don't do that.
Dustin HinerThat's not something we do.
Dustin HinerWe invest in long term, where we get rental income from that property.
Dustin HinerSo here's what you do.
Dustin HinerYou want to invest for monthly passive income.
Dustin HinerThe question is, what if I lose money?
Dustin HinerWell, if you invest in monthly passive income, you are going to mitigate so many chances of losing money.
Dustin HinerHere's what I tell every student.
Dustin HinerSo here's, I'm going to give you a tip that's inside of my ultimate real estate investing system.
Dustin HinerThat is my course that I have for all my students.
Dustin HinerSo inside there, I'm going to, I'm going to get you a little insight into that course.
Dustin HinerIt is.
Dustin HinerYou only buy properties that make you $250 or more each month in passive income.
Dustin HinerI had one investor tell me, well, I tried to buy properties for only $100 a month.
Dustin HinerLike, if I made dollar 100 a month from that one property, then I am ecstatic.
Dustin HinerLike, that's what I want from that one property.
Dustin HinerWell, my opinion is, okay, if you have one property that is rented and it only makes you $100 a month, how much is that a year that you would make after all expenses, if your profit is $100, how much is that going to make you in one year?
Dustin HinerWell, twelve months out of the year, you're only making $100.
Dustin HinerHow much is that going to be?
Dustin HinerThat's going to be $1,200 or $1,200.
Dustin HinerNow, in my opinion, that is really not that much money.
Dustin Hiner$1200.
Dustin HinerIf you have an $800 mortgage and you have an eviction or you just have the tenant move out for one month, that's dollar 800 of your $1,200 eaten up.
Dustin HinerThat's only dollar 400 extra.
Dustin HinerYou know, God forbid you actually had two months that you had a tenant out.
Dustin HinerWell, you're actually losing money now.
Dustin HinerAnd so what happens if you have the furnace go out and you needed to replace that, and that's going to cost, you know, $1,500?
Dustin HinerWell, that's going to eat up your entire, your entire income for the entire year.
Dustin HinerSo, but if you invest for dollar 250 or more each month in passive income, you are going to mitigate all those problems of having the possibility of actually losing money.
Dustin HinerNow, another question, or, sorry, along with that question is, what if I lose money?
Dustin HinerYou want to do your research before you do anything, before you buy a property, you want to do your own research.
Dustin HinerNumber one, like I said, when you're feeling overwhelmed, get educated.
Dustin HinerBut number two, you need, or with losing money, you know, what if I lose money?
Dustin HinerYou want to do your research of the area.
Dustin HinerYou want to do the research of the types of property that are for sale, research on what type of property managers are there.
Dustin HinerI, how much they charge, what type of inspectors.
Dustin HinerYou want to look at what type of clientele is actually going to be there.
Dustin HinerYou know, if they're going to be, if there's a higher crime in certain areas of the city or not.
Dustin HinerSo do your research so you understand the entire market before you buy.
Dustin HinerYou know, I invest in a lot of different places across the country.
Dustin HinerAnd what I do is I try to find out as much as I can about each state and each city and each even neighborhood that I invest in.
Dustin HinerLike, I even know, like the zip code.
Dustin HinerLike in this particular zip code, this is where the bad problems problem.
Dustin HinerYou know, properties are like, there's more crime here, or it's harder to collect rents and stuff like that.
Dustin HinerBut in this other area code.
Dustin HinerSorry, yeah, sorry, zip code.
Dustin HinerThis other zip code is actually a really, really good area, a really good zip code that I want to buy properties.
Dustin HinerSo I know the area as best I can.
Dustin HinerAnd the way I do that is by talking to people, doing research online.
Dustin HinerAnd that'll go way outside of the scope of this podcast.
Dustin HinerSo let's move on.
Dustin HinerNow, another thing is, you know, if somebody asks, well, what if I lose money?
Dustin HinerWell, we wanna mitigate losing money.
Dustin HinerAnd another one is, along with getting educated, is you wanna work with other investors in like a mastermind or a real estate investor meetup, you wanna get with other investors to talk to them about what's working for them, what's not working for them.
Dustin HinerMaybe they're selling a property, they're moving into apartment complexes and they need to sell a property or two properties.
Dustin HinerAnd they're good properties, but they can work great for you, but it's not for them because they're moving up to apartment complexes.
Dustin HinerAnd so the thought is, you know, what if I lose money?
Dustin HinerYou wanna be working with other people to make sure that you're not gonna lose money.
Dustin HinerNow, I'm not guaranteeing you, I'm sorry, I'm not guaranteeing you that you would not actually lose money, but we are doing everything we can to mitigate these problems.
Dustin HinerNow, I've been doing this for twelve or 13 years, and I don't lose money because I have so many properties.
Dustin HinerNow, some properties, you know, they might lose money, but I have other properties that all that income from those property, they make it up.
Dustin HinerLike, I've literally never written a check in my twelve years of investing, I've never written a check and given it to my property manager to pay for something because all the money from my other properties pay for the expenses of the other properties.
Dustin HinerHopefully that makes sense.
Dustin HinerHope you're tracking that.
Dustin HinerOkay, another question is that I always get, what if I buy the wrong property?
Dustin HinerYou know, what if I find the wrong one, it looks great, but then it's a money pit or nobody wants to rent in it.
Dustin HinerOr, you know, so many different issues with buying the wrong property.
Dustin HinerSo my key to that, to getting out of this issue or thought that you're going to buy a wrong property is along with doing your research, builds on with that is you build a team.
Dustin HinerYou build a team of people around you that are going to help you.
Dustin HinerNumber one, find the right property, buy the right property, inspect that property, make sure you have everything fixed up right and finding good tenants and collecting the rents of.
Dustin HinerSo as I just went through that list, I mean, you're going to find property managers, you're going to find realtors, you're going to find inspectors, contractors, roofers, plumbers, electricians.
Dustin HinerYou're going to find all these people so that at any given time you can call them up and say, hey, I need you to do this, or you do XYZ or whatever it might be.
Dustin HinerAnd especially your property manager, that's your quarterback of your team.
Dustin HinerI think like a football team quarterback is a leader.
Dustin HinerYou want your property manager to be the quarterback to lead everything so that you make money.
Dustin HinerNow, also, if, you know, the question is, what if I buy the wrong property?
Dustin HinerWell, you need to protect yourself from those problems and protecting yourself from buying the wrong property.
Dustin HinerAnd buying the problem properties is you actually have inspections on the properties from home inspectors, roof inspectors, plumbers, property managers.
Dustin HinerSo basically everybody you build on your team, you're going to have them inspect the property now, not just have them inspect their one thing.
Dustin HinerLike, I'll give you a pro tip here.
Dustin HinerIf you are having somebody work on the toilet, you know, there's toilet that needs to be fixed.
Dustin HinerWell, if a roofer is working there, you know, they got to use the bathroom.
Dustin HinerSo when you're talking to the roofer and they're fixing the roof, roof up, you could say, hey, while you're there, would you mind using the bathroom and just letting me know what condition the bathroom is?
Dustin HinerBecause I got told that the real from the realtor that the bathroom is really rough or it's great, whatever it might be like, this is what I've heard.
Dustin HinerI just want to verify it with you.
Dustin HinerSo you use other people to inspect other work.
Dustin HinerAnd that's a pro tip again, is you're going to use everybody to check other people's work.
Dustin HinerAnd what other people are saying.
Dustin HinerLike, I never take everybody's word or one person's word for it.
Dustin HinerLike if I talk to my property manager, they say, hey, this is fantastic.
Dustin HinerOr better yet, if I talk to a realtor and this realtor is saying, this is the best property, you got to pay this much because it's going to go fast.
Dustin HinerAnd I, you know, you better hurry up.
Dustin HinerYou better even pay more.
Dustin HinerI don't take their word for it.
Dustin HinerI'll even call like three realtors and ask them their, you know, my questions.
Dustin HinerI'll even talk to two or three property managers or home inspectors.
Dustin HinerLike, I'll talk to lots of people.
Dustin HinerI don't take one person's word for it.
Dustin HinerAnother question that goes along with all of these is, what if I buy in the wrong area of the town or of the state or even the country?
Dustin HinerLike, what if I just find the wrong area?
Dustin HinerAnd my answer to that is, only buy where your property manager will recommend you to buy.
Dustin HinerAnd that's because they will be okay with collecting rent there and finding tenants.
Dustin HinerSo if you track with me, the first answer is find a property manager.
Dustin HinerIf you're looking at a town in a, in a, you know, in the country and then the state, you find a certain city or town.
Dustin HinerDo not buy a property until you have a property manager who is actually going to make sure that the property is taken care of on a day to day basis.
Dustin HinerNow, if your property manager will not manage that property, that's a good indication you probably shouldn't buy it.
Dustin HinerMaybe you might need to find a property manager that will, that could be the case, but at the same time, they're going to give you reasons why.
Dustin HinerLike, hey, you know, it's just a rough area of town.
Dustin HinerLike, even in the middle of the day, it's hard for me to go over there without, you know, getting concerned that somebody's going to have, you know, you know, I don't know, some kind of crime or whatever happened.
Dustin HinerAnd so you, and here's the key.
Dustin HinerAnother pro tip I wanna give you.
Dustin HinerYou want to make sure when you go into a certain area, you talk to as many property managers as you can find, the one that you would like to work with, and then work with them on the property.
Dustin HinerI get with all my students.
Dustin HinerI give them unlimited access to me on looking at deals.
Dustin HinerLike, I'll analyze deals with them if they're in my coaching package.
Dustin HinerI say, just send me your deals.
Dustin HinerI will analyze them with you.
Dustin HinerAnd I get those deals that, you know, not deals, but like the properties, they come to me and say, hey, what do you think about this property?
Dustin HinerMy first question is, what did your property manager say, like, I can do my own research, but I'm only using research that's online.
Dustin HinerBut I'm not going to be calling property managers because that's your job.
Dustin HinerOnce you have your property manager, my question is, what did your property manager say?
Dustin HinerHow much rent are you going to get for the property?
Dustin HinerHow likely is it going to be rented?
Dustin HinerAre they concerned about the property?
Dustin HinerDo they like it?
Dustin HinerYou know, all these sort of things.
Dustin HinerBasically, what does your property manager say about the property?
Dustin HinerThis is a pro tip, but you absolutely, it's common sense.
Dustin HinerLike, if your property manager doesn't want to collect money from there because they're saying, I'm concerned about my safety, that might not be the best place for you to buy.
Dustin HinerIt could be.
Dustin HinerI'm not saying don't, you could still make money, but that gives you an indication of what type of property that you're getting into.
Dustin HinerIt gives you a little understanding before you actually buy the property.
Dustin HinerNow the next one is along with, what if I buy this, you know, in the wrong town, the state or country is you need to research your area.
Dustin HinerAnd that's by talking with everyone that you can come across, even looking on Craigslist for other rentals in that area.
Dustin HinerCall up that person that is either the landlord or the property manager and say, hey, you know, I'm an investor.
Dustin HinerI'm looking at buying this area.
Dustin HinerDo you have any properties that you'd like to sell?
Dustin HinerAnd as they're talking about, maybe I do, maybe I don't.
Dustin HinerAnd then with that you say, well, so how is the area?
Dustin HinerYou know, should, should I be concerned about any areas?
Dustin HinerWhat do you think about the crime here or the schools or all that sort of stuff?
Dustin HinerSo talk to everyone about the area before you buy.
Dustin HinerRemember, we're building the business first and then buying the property.
Dustin HinerNow, here's another question I get.
Dustin HinerWhat if the place burns down?
Dustin HinerLike, what if, oh, and along with that, what if I get bad tenants that actually tear up the place?
Dustin HinerSo we'll actually the first one.
Dustin HinerSo what if the property burns down?
Dustin HinerWell, get landlords insurance.
Dustin HinerJust like with every property, you have your car insurance, you have your home policy for your property that you live in.
Dustin HinerYou know, if you're renting, you have renters insurance.
Dustin HinerGet landlords insurance.
Dustin HinerNot just homeowners insurance, get landlords insurance because maybe it might not actually cover for a tenant living in the property.
Dustin HinerAnd you don't want that where all of a sudden you realize, oh, no, I had a tenant in there and they're saying I can't get, you know, the property burned down, and they're not going to cover it because there was a tenant in there, and I didn't have a landlord insurance.
Dustin HinerSo make sure you get landlords insurance.
Dustin HinerNow, the next question quickly is easily, you know, the next question right after, you know, place burns down is, well, what if I get bad tenants?
Dustin HinerYou know, what if I find a tenant that is actually a bad tenant, tears up the property?
Dustin HinerWell, here's a big key.
Dustin HinerDo a background check on all applicants, every single applicant.
Dustin HinerAnd here, I'll give you another pro tip.
Dustin HinerEven if the applicants in that area, which I've had property managers tell me, well, in this area, people are not going to pay $30 to apply because, you know, they don't have that much money.
Dustin HinerIt's a, you know, it's a rundown area I pay for.
Dustin HinerIf the tenants do not want to pay for the background check, I will pay it.
Dustin HinerI will pay $30 for a background check to save me $2,000 on an eviction.
Dustin HinerWouldn't you do that?
Dustin HinerWould you be like, jump?
Dustin HinerLike, sign me up, you hear?
Dustin HinerAnd I'll be right up.
Dustin HinerYou'll say, sign me up.
Dustin HinerI'll give you $30 to save $2,000 absolutely.
Dustin HinerEvery time.
Dustin HinerAnd so I've even had people lie on the application.
Dustin HinerThey look fantastic on the application.
Dustin HinerBut after I run the background check, I find out they've been evicted four times in three years.
Dustin HinerWell, I don't put them in my property.
Dustin HinerCause I don't wanna be the fifth time.
Dustin HinerSo you wanna do a background check on all applicants.
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Dustin HinerNow, along with the bad tenants, what the question that I get after that is, you know, even if I get good tenants, what if they tear up the place?
Dustin HinerYou know, the first one is bad tenants.
Dustin HinerI'm gonna have to evict them, obviously.
Dustin HinerHopefully, you mitigate from that by doing a background check.
Dustin HinerBut what if the good tenants actually tear up the place?
Dustin HinerWell, again, I do a background check.
Dustin HinerAbsolutely.
Dustin HinerDo any question that I get from any student that says, what if this with tenants, what if that with tenants is run a background check and pick the best tenant that you feel is going to be taking care of the property.
Dustin HinerThat's going to be very truthful and honest.
Dustin HinerSo always?
Dustin HinerAlways.
Dustin HinerI mean, I can't say it.
Dustin HinerThis is a pro tip common sense, but most people don't do it.
Dustin HinerRun a background check.
Dustin HinerNow, that's criminal.
Dustin HinerThat's.
Dustin HinerWhat's a financial background check, to see their credit score, see how much debt they have and all that sort of stuff.
Dustin HinerBut also eviction.
Dustin HinerYou want to see all of that.
Dustin HinerNow, what if they tear up the place?
Dustin HinerIf you do a background check, you're mitigating the chances.
Dustin HinerBut here's the thing.
Dustin HinerIf they do tear up the place, it's really the cost of doing business.
Dustin HinerHopefully, you're making dollar 250 a month.
Dustin HinerSo if they tear up the place, it's going to maybe cost you, you know, $1,000 to fix up the place and get it rented again.
Dustin HinerWell, you've made $3,000 in the one year and $1,000 on the changeover.
Dustin HinerOkay, that's.
Dustin HinerThat's a bummer.
Dustin HinerBut let's say you're only making $100 every single month, and you're making $1,200 total.
Dustin HinerWell, $1,000 fix up.
Dustin HinerYou only have $2, $200 left over.
Dustin HinerSo anyways, all that, say, do a background check.
Dustin HinerYou want to make sure that you mitigate potential issues with tenants.
Dustin HinerAll right, gUys, so now we are coming to the end of the show, and I realize there is so much more to talk about.
Dustin HinerThere's so much more to share.
Dustin HinerSo I'm going to put this into two different parts.
Dustin HinerCome back next week.
Dustin HinerYou're going to listen to the other ParT, where I'm going to go through the Actual Process that you need to go through to get over the fear and get your first property.
Dustin HinerSo come back next week and learn more about how to get over the fear of buying that first property.
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